From swimwire at googlemail.com  Mon Feb  1 00:00:42 2010
From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 00:00:42 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Polaroid printer
In-Reply-To: <C78BC6F0.8B67%lizbarnard@btinternet.com>
References: <C78BC6F0.8B67%lizbarnard@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <0930AB1E-9830-4071-96D2-4325144E1E83@googlemail.com>


Yes - you can do this. It supports USB via a cable that plugs into any  
regular USB device, and Bluetooth for phones etc.


Sent from iPod Touch

On 31 Jan 2010, at 23:46, Liz <lizbarnard at btinternet.com> wrote:

> By the way am I right in thinking you can plug the iPad into a Mac  
> and print
> text and images from it?  If not, it?s pretty useless.

From macman at f2s.com  Mon Feb  1 00:08:29 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 00:08:29 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Polaroid printer/ iPad
In-Reply-To: <C78BC6F0.8B67%lizbarnard@btinternet.com>
References: <C78BC6F0.8B67%lizbarnard@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <56C034F4-5086-4A25-87BE-2DDD51F0B241@f2s.com>

At this stage, no-one seems to be quite sure - there's no USB or  
Firewire, but it has Bluetooth and a 30 Pin Dock interface which  
allows a keyboard to be plugged in.   It is not being touted by Apple  
as a computer or computer substitute, although since it runs iWork, it  
would be a fair assumption that there has to be some sort of printing  
facility.

"Useless" is surely subjective:  no-one's denying it does exactly what  
Apple claim.  That, however, may not be what you were expecting!

For me, the most telling part of the presentation was the armchair and  
ithe iPad's function as a leisure appliance for reading papers,  
magazines and books, email and surfing, and probably watching  
downloaded TV, video or movies.   (Possibly also in airports and on  
planes, trains & buses)

Not for me, but there may just be enough people out there who are  
happy to spend the sort of money it costs for the convenience, or  
maybe just to be cool.

The pundits believe much will become clearer over the next few weeks.   
Until then ....

http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/

http://tinyurl.com/ipadgizmodo

May give you more idea.

Robbie



On 31 Jan 2010, at 23:46, Liz wrote:


By the way am I right in thinking you can plug the iPad into a Mac and  
print
text and images from it?  If not, it?s pretty useless.

Liz
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From swimwire at googlemail.com  Mon Feb  1 07:17:09 2010
From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:17:09 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Polaroid printer/ iPad
In-Reply-To: <56C034F4-5086-4A25-87BE-2DDD51F0B241@f2s.com>
References: <C78BC6F0.8B67%lizbarnard@btinternet.com>
	<56C034F4-5086-4A25-87BE-2DDD51F0B241@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <0394F888-65FD-487E-99BF-04A0E781ED1A@googlemail.com>

I realise the mistake in my last post, thinking you meant the  
Polaroid... Oops.



Sent from iPod Touch

On 1 Feb 2010, at 00:08, Robbie Murray <macman at f2s.com> wrote:

> At this stage, no-one seems to be quite sure - there's no USB or
> Firewire, but it has Bluetooth and a 30 Pin Dock interface which
> allows a keyboard to be plugged in.   It is not being touted by Apple
> as a computer or computer substitute, although since it runs iWork, it
> would be a fair assumption that there has to be some sort of printing
> facility.
>
> "Useless" is surely subjective:  no-one's denying it does exactly what
> Apple claim.  That, however, may not be what you were expecting!
>
> For me, the most telling part of the presentation was the armchair and
> ithe iPad's function as a leisure appliance for reading papers,
> magazines and books, email and surfing, and probably watching
> downloaded TV, video or movies.   (Possibly also in airports and on
> planes, trains & buses)
>
> Not for me, but there may just be enough people out there who are
> happy to spend the sort of money it costs for the convenience, or
> maybe just to be cool.
>
> The pundits believe much will become clearer over the next few weeks.
> Until then ....
>
> http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ipadgizmodo
>
> May give you more idea.
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
> On 31 Jan 2010, at 23:46, Liz wrote:
>
>
> By the way am I right in thinking you can plug the iPad into a Mac and
> print
> text and images from it?  If not, it?s pretty useless.
>
> Liz
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From gill at cerise.org.uk  Mon Feb  1 11:19:02 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:19:02 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] buying an external display for macbook
Message-ID: <C09D0B54-567A-47EA-B526-C09E9378968A@cerise.org.uk>

Hello again,

while I wait for the ipads to arrive, I thought I'd get an external  
display for my Macbook. The generic displays market is quite confusing  
though. Is there anything I should know about MacBook compatibility  
before I choose one on amazon in a fairly random manner? thankyou!

From gill at cerise.org.uk  Mon Feb  1 11:47:36 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:47:36 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] super duper swaps?
Message-ID: <9B614876-482E-4B71-BED9-A40A0811DEFF@cerise.org.uk>

Hi, another quickie: I have 2 MacBooks, bought 2 years apart, both  
running 10.5. Can I use super duper to swap over their content?  
thanks, Gill

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 11:58:57 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:58:57 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] buying an external display for macbook
In-Reply-To: <C09D0B54-567A-47EA-B526-C09E9378968A@cerise.org.uk>
References: <C09D0B54-567A-47EA-B526-C09E9378968A@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <BB867199-E241-413E-81FF-D1BB5CAB7679@durrant.co.uk>

Look for a monitor with a DVI connector. While you can get VGA  
adapters for the MacBooks, DVI gives a sharper picture.

The MacBooks have either a Mini-DVI or a Mini-DisplayPort. For either  
you'll need an adapter to get to a full-size DVI connector.

Check what the viewing angle is for the display - ideally you want  
want that's 170? horixontally and vertically. Not because you'll be  
looking at it from a very wide angle, but such monitors also minimise  
colour changes when looking at the screen from slightly off-centre  
angles.

You also want one that's got lots of pixels for its size. 13" MacBook  
screens have a "dot pitch" of about 0.225mm. That is, each pixel is a  
small square 0.225 mm on each side.

A widescreen 19" monitor with 1680x1050 pixels has a dot pitch of  
0.243mm - so everything will look a little bigger on such a screen  
than on your MacBook's screen. But if you got a 19" monitor with  
1440x900 pixels, that has a dot pitch of 0.285mm - which would make  
things look a LOT bigger.

So - try to get a monitor that's fairly close to the dot pitch of your  
MacBook's screen.

For a widescreen 19" screen, that means 1680x1050. e.g.
http://www.dabs.com/products/iiyama-19--widescreen-e1908ws-b1-2ms-dvi-lcd-tft-6JQB.html
Although that one only has 170?H by 160?V viewing angle. But that's  
probably OK.

And after connector, viewing angle, and dot-pitch, you should be  
looking at brightness and contrast. Although the way these are  
calculated varies a lot.

Some monitors are now describing themselves as "LED monitor". This  
currently means that they use LEDs for the backlighting - which is  
more energy efficient, and can also give better back lighting.


Hmm.... there's a nice cheap 21" currently at Dabs - 1980x1080, 21.5",  
170?x160? ?112.82:
http://www.dabs.com/products/benq-21-5--widescreen-g2220hd-5ms-dvi-hd-ready-lcd-tft-5L41.html

regards,

Paul

On 1 Feb 2010, at 11:19, Gill Seyfang wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> while I wait for the ipads to arrive, I thought I'd get an external
> display for my Macbook. The generic displays market is quite confusing
> though. Is there anything I should know about MacBook compatibility
> before I choose one on amazon in a fairly random manner? thankyou!
> _______________________________________________
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From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 12:03:30 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:03:30 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] super duper swaps?
In-Reply-To: <9B614876-482E-4B71-BED9-A40A0811DEFF@cerise.org.uk>
References: <9B614876-482E-4B71-BED9-A40A0811DEFF@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1CF60D0F-E4BE-4C24-A5A1-9430DE851A28@durrant.co.uk>

Yes, providing you have another disk. You can't just directly swap the  
data using SuperDuper, you have to copy one MacBook to the extra disk,  
copy the second MacBook to the first MacBook, and then copy from the  
extra disk to the second MacBook.

Or, you could shut both machines down. Remove both batteries. Under  
the screen screws in each battery compartment and remove the L-shaped  
metal edge to the compartment. Pull out the disk drive from each  
machine, and push them back in to the other machine. Put the L-shapes  
back, do up the screws. Replace the batteries, and you're done. About  
fifteen minutes work at most.

regards,

Paul

On 1 Feb 2010, at 11:47, Gill Seyfang wrote:

> Hi, another quickie: I have 2 MacBooks, bought 2 years apart, both
> running 10.5. Can I use super duper to swap over their content?


From macman at f2s.com  Mon Feb  1 12:23:14 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:23:14 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] buying an external display for macbook
In-Reply-To: <BB867199-E241-413E-81FF-D1BB5CAB7679@durrant.co.uk>
References: <C09D0B54-567A-47EA-B526-C09E9378968A@cerise.org.uk>
	<BB867199-E241-413E-81FF-D1BB5CAB7679@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5ECF22CE-83E8-40A4-B4DD-06C2B4756337@f2s.com>

If it's Mini DVI to DVI you need, I can offer the genuine Apple  
article - only 7 days old and untouched by human hand:  came with a  
Mac Mini, but used with a VGA monitor, so had to buy an adaptor from  
Apple for ?16.00.

No charge, but if you'd care to make a small contribution to the Haiti  
relief appeal that would be nice ...


Robbie




On 1 Feb 2010, at 11:58, Paul Durrant wrote:

Look for a monitor with a DVI connector. While you can get VGA
adapters for the MacBooks, DVI gives a sharper picture.

The MacBooks have either a Mini-DVI or a Mini-DisplayPort. For either
you'll need an adapter to get to a full-size DVI connector.


From allanmacam at me.com  Mon Feb  1 17:34:54 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:34:54 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iPad and Trouble
Message-ID: <76C10E7E-54DC-44A9-84C3-44A315F2BC55@me.com>

Scott Kelby, President of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals) as well, as a zillion other things, describes some of the reactions he got when he did a Blog about the new iPad. Makes interesting reading.

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/

From ricnev at mac.com  Mon Feb  1 17:58:07 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:58:07 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iPad and Trouble
In-Reply-To: <76C10E7E-54DC-44A9-84C3-44A315F2BC55@me.com>
References: <76C10E7E-54DC-44A9-84C3-44A315F2BC55@me.com>
Message-ID: <B26C30FA-F0C9-42C7-B4BD-73C7ACF9E2B6@mac.com>

How laid back and balanced Scott Kelby seems to be.

Of course, there may be a few valid reasons to get hot under the collar:

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ipad


On 1 Feb 2010, at 17:34, Allan wrote:

> Scott Kelby, President of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals) as well, as a zillion other things, describes some of the reactions he got when he did a Blog about the new iPad. Makes interesting reading.
> 
> http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/
> 

Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From macman at f2s.com  Mon Feb  1 18:11:26 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:11:26 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iPad and Trouble
In-Reply-To: <76C10E7E-54DC-44A9-84C3-44A315F2BC55@me.com>
References: <76C10E7E-54DC-44A9-84C3-44A315F2BC55@me.com>
Message-ID: <995D528F-052B-4B1C-BA5F-DAD99EAE4EEF@f2s.com>

Yes, very!    Spot on ...

What other company could get so much publicity for months and even  
years for a product they have never said even existed?

  :-)


Robbie



On 1 Feb 2010, at 17:34, Allan wrote:

Scott Kelby, President of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop  
Professionals) as well, as a zillion other things, describes some of  
the reactions he got when he did a Blog about the new iPad. Makes  
interesting reading.

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/
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From brian at clearlight.uk.net  Mon Feb  1 19:07:17 2010
From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:07:17 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] super duper swaps?
In-Reply-To: <9B614876-482E-4B71-BED9-A40A0811DEFF@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C78CD6E5.32ADA%brian@clearlight.uk.net>

Yes but you need other HD's or volumes or Disk images to move each to or you
overwrite the one with the other
all the best
Brian

Gill Seyfang said recently:

> Hi, another quickie: I have 2 MacBooks, bought 2 years apart, both
> running 10.5. Can I use super duper to swap over their content?
> thanks, Gill
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From eastamber at btinternet.com  Tue Feb  2 08:53:23 2010
From: eastamber at btinternet.com (Roger Brown)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 08:53:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Bookmarks
Message-ID: <C97F78F1-678C-45FC-8CA0-6CAFB67A72BE@btinternet.com>

How to organise "bookmarks" alphabetically.
We are using Firefox as our preferred search engine if that is relevant.
Lynda Brown

From jill at 2js.org  Tue Feb  2 08:56:28 2010
From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 08:56:28 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] .mac
Message-ID: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>

I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep.  I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-

"No, we don't offer @mac  addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk.  As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."

I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?
 



From munkt0n at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 09:13:47 2010
From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:13:47 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <C97F78F1-678C-45FC-8CA0-6CAFB67A72BE@btinternet.com>
References: <C97F78F1-678C-45FC-8CA0-6CAFB67A72BE@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ac224bde1002020113m36fa01edkc5f3c284dbc5e3f0@mail.gmail.com>

bookmarks menu > organize bookmarks

select 'bookmarks menu' all you bookmarks will be displayed
click on the 'Name' column header to sort alphabetically

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Roger Brown <eastamber at btinternet.com> wrote:
> How to organise "bookmarks" alphabetically.
> We are using Firefox as our preferred search engine if that is relevant.
> Lynda Brown
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-- 
:wq

From munkt0n at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 09:19:53 2010
From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:19:53 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] .mac
In-Reply-To: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
References: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
Message-ID: <ac224bde1002020119s1cd8b3fay4614a95f4ae164bc@mail.gmail.com>

sounds like whoever you spoke to doesn't really have a clue to be honest.
There has never been any mention of @mac.com addresses being
converted, and I see no 'this product is no longer supported' messages
on the Tiger support page. http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Jill Searle <jill at 2js.org> wrote:
> I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep. ?I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-
>
> "No, we don't offer @mac ?addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk. ?As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."
>
> I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?
>
>
>
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-- 
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From munkt0n at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 09:25:33 2010
From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:25:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] .mac
In-Reply-To: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
References: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
Message-ID: <ac224bde1002020125g575b7a64q9d7e0d4aadda1d09@mail.gmail.com>

this page explains things a bit more

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932

Can I send and receive email from both @mac.com and @me.com?
If you had a working @mac.com email address as of July 9, 2008 you can
continue to use that address as you always have, as well as your new
address @me.com. And emails sent to either address will appear in your
inbox on the web as well as your devices. For instructions on how to
use both email addresses, including how to set up your Mac, PC,
iPhone, or iPod touch, read Setting up MobileMe email on your Mac.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Jill Searle <jill at 2js.org> wrote:
> I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep. ?I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-
>
> "No, we don't offer @mac ?addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk. ?As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."
>
> I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ricnev at mac.com  Tue Feb  2 09:32:04 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:32:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] .mac
In-Reply-To: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
References: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
Message-ID: <AD921BD6-7982-453E-8355-E074FF8BB253@mac.com>

The mobile.me rep seems to be confusing two things:

1. If you want to go to the MobileMe website, you used to be able to just go to www.me.com and you'd be automatically redirected to www.mobileme.com.
This redirect ended on January 21 2010. See:

http://www.mac.com/

2. Continued use of pre-existing @mac.com email addresses seems to be assured by:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2857



On 2 Feb 2010, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote:

> I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep.  I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-
> 
> "No, we don't offer @mac  addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk.  As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."
> 
> I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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ricnev at mac.com




From macman at f2s.com  Tue Feb  2 11:08:42 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:08:42 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Polaroid PoGo Digital Instant Mobile Printer
In-Reply-To: <71704C0D-2E69-411A-B277-743E77E205C0@me.com>
References: <mailman.0.1264507201.91991.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
	<B415165C-BB98-4E08-A866-7F427DFC3949@cerise.org.uk>
	<SNT128-W334A57F9EEA42E8640EB629D5A0@phx.gbl>
	<71704C0D-2E69-411A-B277-743E77E205C0@me.com>
Message-ID: <97782BB7-2EB5-4DEC-BAC3-4AC0CE9B45F5@f2s.com>

just arrived in my inbox ...

http://tinyurl.com/ykjfj25

Robbie


On 31 Jan 2010, at 14:41, Paul Chapman wrote:


On Jan 30, 2010, at 21:03, Ferrers Young wrote:
> Mentioned at this month's meeting as being available on Ebay for
> about ?20.
>
> Now available at Maplin for ?29.99 - link gives reviews & FAQ's

Kicking myself I didn't buy that one in the auction I was showing at
the meeting as the typical eBay price seems to have risen to ?22-?23
now which is still cheaper than Maplins.

If you have a jailbroken iPhone you can use a BlueTooth App to connect
to the Pogo which is also BlueTooth enabled.

Paul C


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From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk  Tue Feb  2 11:52:57 2010
From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:52:57 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
Message-ID: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>

I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so  
wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?  
Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more  
urgent).
  Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.

Anthony


From gill at cerise.org.uk  Tue Feb  2 12:31:14 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:31:14 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] super duper swaps and displays
In-Reply-To: <mailman.597.1265108926.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
References: <mailman.597.1265108926.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C4644647-6009-4D15-AF95-610F317A5D7F@cerise.org.uk>

thanks for the super duper tips everyone - as I have clones of each  
Mac, I'll simply re-write each clone to the opposite MacBook and that  
should do the trick.

Also thanks very much for the display-choosing tips (especially Paul),  
I've found a nice 22"HD one on dabs and am looking forward to some  
more pixels to play with ;-)

Gill

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Tue Feb  2 12:52:00 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:52:00 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
In-Reply-To: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
References: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
Message-ID: <097C6937-6A6C-4030-9429-89602D29E8BC@virgin.net>

I use The Cartridge People for 'general' printing. Their prices are a lot less than original HP inks.
Their site gives a full list of HP and other makes.

Ken Arnoldi
On 2 Feb 2010, at 11:52, Anthony Brahams wrote:

> I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so  
> wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?  
> Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more  
> urgent).
>  Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.
> 
> Anthony
> 
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From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com  Tue Feb  2 13:17:54 2010
From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:17:54 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
In-Reply-To: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
References: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
Message-ID: <adb0e98a1002020517i78818851gf7b5beaa0a663410@mail.gmail.com>

I use Anglian Internet (I think they're called behind Sprowston Business
Park).  I pay ?5 each and they seem to  last a while although I  have to
admit I'm not printing every day.
Jules

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Anthony Brahams <
anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk> wrote:

> I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so
> wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?
> Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more
> urgent).
>  Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.
>
> Anthony
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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>



-- 
Jules

CalmClasses & Therapies
to improve your health.

My business works on referrals.
If you like what I do, please tell others.
If not, please tell me.

From penguinsplj at me.com  Tue Feb  2 13:21:51 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:21:51 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Polaroid PoGo Digital Instant Mobile Printer
In-Reply-To: <97782BB7-2EB5-4DEC-BAC3-4AC0CE9B45F5@f2s.com>
References: <mailman.0.1264507201.91991.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
	<B415165C-BB98-4E08-A866-7F427DFC3949@cerise.org.uk>
	<SNT128-W334A57F9EEA42E8640EB629D5A0@phx.gbl>
	<71704C0D-2E69-411A-B277-743E77E205C0@me.com>
	<97782BB7-2EB5-4DEC-BAC3-4AC0CE9B45F5@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <2B573CB9-2A55-47F2-9FA5-08E4CFFBDAE9@me.com>


On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:08, Robbie Murray wrote:

> just arrived in my inbox ...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ykjfj25

The postage there is ?3.99 which takes it above some eBay items  
however they are selling the 70 sheet packs of paper at the cheapest  
price I have seen and if the two are bought together then the package  
is certainly the cheapest.

Paul C


From penguinsplj at me.com  Tue Feb  2 15:16:08 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:16:08 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
Message-ID: <BBAD39C4-7D28-48FB-B344-3D1B04CD61DD@me.com>

Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it  
or there will be a camera in the next version.

<http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality-we-think-so/ 
 >

Paul C

From macman at f2s.com  Tue Feb  2 15:40:20 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:40:20 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <BBAD39C4-7D28-48FB-B344-3D1B04CD61DD@me.com>
References: <BBAD39C4-7D28-48FB-B344-3D1B04CD61DD@me.com>
Message-ID: <E788D027-BB47-46F5-A6C8-1E4CE2C1D159@f2s.com>

Giving them everything from the outset doesn't leave much to shout  
about when launching the subsequent  'new improved' Mkll, Mklll  
versions:  I'm quite sure one will come along in the future.   After  
all, it's standard practice in automobile design to build in mounts  
and holes for bells & whistles to come later when sales start to  
plateau!

The best description of the iPad I've heard so far was from Leo  
Laporte on Macbreak Weekly (or possibly TWIT) - he calls it a 'content  
consumption device' as opposed to a 'content creation device'

Robbie



On 2 Feb 2010, at 15:16, Paul Chapman wrote:

Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it
or there will be a camera in the next version.

<http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality-we-think-so/
>

Paul C
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01603 620749
01603 516175
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From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com  Tue Feb  2 21:11:12 2010
From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Simon Bainbridge)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:11:12 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
In-Reply-To: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
References: <AA2B438A-7EED-43B6-B61F-5C36C90670A6@themagic.me.uk>
Message-ID: <281903F6-40C5-488D-8C6F-CA90C9BEE86D@googlemail.com>

For cheap HP ORIGINAL inks I goto http://justinkandpaper.com

Simon Bainbridge

On 2 Feb 2010, at 11:52, Anthony Brahams  
<anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk> wrote:

> I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so
> wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?
> Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more
> urgent).
>  Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.
>
> Anthony
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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From brian at clearlight.uk.net  Tue Feb  2 22:01:13 2010
From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:01:13 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <E788D027-BB47-46F5-A6C8-1E4CE2C1D159@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>

I appreciated reading this comment on the iPad this morning.
http://vanilladome.co.uk/2010/01/30/future-shock

It's viewing from a different perspective than most of the geeks who are
judging it as if it was aimed at them. It isn't - its a consumer device and
maybe like the iPhone - might become useful in business.

Reminds me of the Mac's birth - dismissed as a toy by the geeks of the day.
(Still is by many no doubt). But the essential things that were dissed were
mouse input, and a GUI featuring windows, Icons and Menus.

These became almost universally adopted as a lot simpler than learning DOS
commands. But the development of computing has become a networked multi
media device that is far too complex for most people to 'just use'.

So it may well be that the tablet - whether Apple's or others, becomes the
consumer device of preference for those who just browse and consume.

And that at some point future, desktop tablets based on the new Apple chip -
a closed system - (worried?) - but free of the plague of security issues.

The cost of simplicity, security and easy usage?

Though I might find it fun to play with - I don't know that I'd have a use
for it - but I'd buy one for my inLaws as a potentially usable communication
enabler. (They wont have a computer but this just might slip past that).

Whether there are enough adopters to get the ball rolling on this one - I
expect so. But the next set of models will have a cam - and no doubt More.

all the best
Brian



Robbie Murray said recently:

> Giving them everything from the outset doesn't leave much to shout
> about when launching the subsequent  'new improved' Mkll, Mklll
> versions:  I'm quite sure one will come along in the future.   After
> all, it's standard practice in automobile design to build in mounts
> and holes for bells & whistles to come later when sales start to
> plateau!
> 
> The best description of the iPad I've heard so far was from Leo
> Laporte on Macbreak Weekly (or possibly TWIT) - he calls it a 'content
> consumption device' as opposed to a 'content creation device'
> 
> Robbie
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Feb 2010, at 15:16, Paul Chapman wrote:
> 
> Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it
> or there will be a camera in the next version.
> 
> <http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality
> -we-think-so/
>> 
> 
> Paul C
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> 
> 
> Robbie Murray
> 01603 620749
> 01603 516175
> 07882 007667
> macman at f2s.com
> 
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From ricnev at mac.com  Tue Feb  2 22:20:30 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:20:30 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] .mac
In-Reply-To: <AD921BD6-7982-453E-8355-E074FF8BB253@mac.com>
References: <3EDD80EA-4AEA-45C0-9390-8C0F4EAFFC69@2js.org>
	<AD921BD6-7982-453E-8355-E074FF8BB253@mac.com>
Message-ID: <97A7C043-2324-46EF-A57A-01EA7C7BF35C@mac.com>

Duh - see how easy it is to get confused!


On 2 Feb 2010, at 09:32, Richard Nevill wrote:

> The mobile.me rep seems to be confusing two things:
> 
> 1. If you want to go to the MobileMe website, you used to be able to just go to www.me.com and you'd be automatically redirected to www.mobileme.com.


Should have been 'you used to be able to just go to www.mac.com and you'd be...'


> This redirect ended on January 21 2010. See:
> 
> http://www.mac.com/
> 
> 2. Continued use of pre-existing @mac.com email addresses seems to be assured by:
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2857
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Feb 2010, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote:
> 
>> I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep.  I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-
>> 
>> "No, we don't offer @mac  addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk.  As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."
>> 
>> I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?
>> 
>> 

Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From robharrington at mac.com  Wed Feb  3 09:40:36 2010
From: robharrington at mac.com (Rob Harrington)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:40:36 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>
References: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>
Message-ID: <049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>



> . But the next set of models will have a cam - and no doubt More.
>
> all the best
> Brian
>


I think the iPad is a wonderful lazy, Sunday papers- sofa-hugging  
browsing device and understand people's desire for one wand to rule  
them all , but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a  
10"  tablet? In somebody's pocket? When we  have mobile phone cameras  
with 5=6 Megapixales and compact cameras with 12? I used to lug  
5"x4"  cameras about with a nine foot high tripod   but it was a  
dedicated device. Perhaps I have a blind spot about it.
"Why do we mourn for the moon Gerry, when we have the stars?"- ( The  
philosophy of Hollywood" - An unpublished early work of
Rob Harrington.)

From penguinsplj at me.com  Wed Feb  3 09:44:04 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:44:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>
References: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>
	<049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3AB13046-5CC8-436C-A094-EE9301A6602A@me.com>


On Feb 3, 2010, at 09:40, Rob Harrington wrote:

> understand people's desire for one wand to rule
> them all , but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a
> 10"  tablet?

Video conferencing/chat for business or friends/family.

Paul C


From macman at f2s.com  Wed Feb  3 10:33:25 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:33:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>
References: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>
	<049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CC63798D-059C-46EE-A3D6-ADB0F1895021@f2s.com>

Skype!

Just before my mother died in a nursing home in Scotland December at  
the age of 90, I bought a Netbook so she could talk face to face with  
all of her family, here and overseas, which brought her great  
pleasure, but it was awkward and difficult to use - someone had to  
boot it up (Windows XP) and find somewhere to balance it so she could  
see and be seen.

She could, however, still read a book, and I'm sure would have been  
able to lie propped up in bed quite happily chatting away.

I can't see any reason why the iPad would have a forward facing  
camera, but a user facing webcam and a built in mike makes a lot of  
sense to me.

I am, however, considering applying for a patent on my brilliant  
thought - a webcam which swivels, so it could also take pictures and  
movies (with probably the biggest viewfinder on the market - peasey!)


Robbie




On 3 Feb 2010, at 09:40, Rob Harrington wrote:

... but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a
10"  tablet? In somebody's pocket? 

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Wed Feb  3 11:11:36 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:11:36 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
In-Reply-To: <CC63798D-059C-46EE-A3D6-ADB0F1895021@f2s.com>
References: <C78E5129.32B40%brian@clearlight.uk.net>
	<049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1@mac.com>
	<CC63798D-059C-46EE-A3D6-ADB0F1895021@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <6910DBA3-6FD9-46ED-935F-A6BD09E9DCA9@virgin.net>

I've said this before at an NMUG meeting: iPad or similar device no  
good to people like me who fall asleep in bed and drop book on floor!

Ken Arnoldi



On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:33 AM, Robbie Murray <macman at f2s.com> wrote:

> Skype!
>
> Just before my mother died in a nursing home in Scotland December at
> the age of 90, I bought a Netbook so she could talk face to face with
> all of her family, here and overseas, which brought her great
> pleasure, but it was awkward and difficult to use - someone had to
> boot it up (Windows XP) and find somewhere to balance it so she could
> see and be seen.
>
> She could, however, still read a book, and I'm sure would have been
> able to lie propped up in bed quite happily chatting away.
>
> I can't see any reason why the iPad would have a forward facing
> camera, but a user facing webcam and a built in mike makes a lot of
> sense to me.
>
> I am, however, considering applying for a patent on my brilliant
> thought - a webcam which swivels, so it could also take pictures and
> movies (with probably the biggest viewfinder on the market - peasey!)
>
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2010, at 09:40, Rob Harrington wrote:
>
> ... but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a
> 10"  tablet? In somebody's pocket?
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From june.perrett at mac.com  Wed Feb  3 12:05:37 2010
From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:05:37 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Problem with digital still camera movie
Message-ID: <DC96D397-1C69-4A38-8F0F-4B8A966C7645@mac.com>

Hi

I've made a short 12 minute film using the video/movie mode on a  
digital still camera. I imported it into iMovie and then burned it to  
a CD-R disk to send to a friend.  It is in MPEG-4 format.  But when I  
try to play the CD on my computer it will not play. Should I burn it  
on a DVD disk?

This message comes up:
'The project could not be opened, because the disk is full, the folder  
is locked, or the folder permission are incorrect.
If the project is on a CD-ROM, network server or locked disk, then  
copy it to your hard drive before opening it.
If the project is already on your hard drive, then the disk may be  
completely full, or you may not have permission to modify that folder.
Correct the problem and try again.'

After reading the message I clicked on 'import' in the drop down list  
under File (of iMovie) and started to import onto the hard drive. But  
got scared when I saw thousands of numbers whizzing by and pressed  
'cancel'. Thought I'd better ask for some help.

I'd grateful for some help as I'm getting rather frustrated - not able  
to achieve what I set out to do!

Regards
June



From june.perrett at mac.com  Wed Feb  3 12:24:58 2010
From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:24:58 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Problem with digital still camera movie
Message-ID: <C1932F33-AA67-4FE5-B43A-8A6E4577E28F@mac.com>

Hi
Re- my first post asking for some help with my still camera movie.
I want to mention that I'm working in iMovie HD on an iMac with  
Leopard & iLife '08 installed.
Regards
June


From richard_kelham at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 12:34:55 2010
From: richard_kelham at yahoo.co.uk (Richard Kelham)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:34:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] iPad
Message-ID: <453457.91177.qm@web24702.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


Steve Bell in the Guardian seems to think the iPad is pants. Literally.


Richard



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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:31:14 +0000
From: Gill Seyfang <gill at cerise.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] super duper swaps and displays
To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
Message-ID: <C4644647-6009-4D15-AF95-610F317A5D7F at cerise.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

thanks for the super duper tips everyone - as I have clones of each  
Mac, I'll simply re-write each clone to the opposite MacBook and that  
should do the trick.

Also thanks very much for the display-choosing tips (especially Paul),  
I've found a nice 22"HD one on dabs and am looking forward to some  
more pixels to play with ;-)

Gill


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:52:00 +0000
From: Ken Arnoldi <ken.arnoldi at virgin.net>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] HP ink
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <097C6937-6A6C-4030-9429-89602D29E8BC at virgin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I use The Cartridge People for 'general' printing. Their prices are a lot less than original HP inks.
Their site gives a full list of HP and other makes.

Ken Arnoldi
On 2 Feb 2010, at 11:52, Anthony Brahams wrote:

I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so  
wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?  
Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more  
urgent).
Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.

Anthony

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:17:54 +0000
From: Jules Slaughter <jinshinjewels at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] HP ink
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID:
   <adb0e98a1002020517i78818851gf7b5beaa0a663410 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I use Anglian Internet (I think they're called behind Sprowston Business
Park).  I pay ?5 each and they seem to  last a while although I  have to
admit I'm not printing every day.
Jules

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Anthony Brahams <
anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk> wrote:

I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so
wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?
Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more
urgent).
Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.

Anthony

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CalmClasses & Therapies
to improve your health.

My business works on referrals.
If you like what I do, please tell others.
If not, please tell me.


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:21:51 +0000
From: Paul Chapman <penguinsplj at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] Polaroid PoGo Digital Instant Mobile Printer
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
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On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:08, Robbie Murray wrote:

just arrived in my inbox ...

http://tinyurl.com/ykjfj25

The postage there is ?3.99 which takes it above some eBay items  
however they are selling the 70 sheet packs of paper at the cheapest  
price I have seen and if the two are bought together then the package  
is certainly the cheapest.

Paul C



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:16:08 +0000
From: Paul Chapman <penguinsplj at me.com>
Subject: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <BBAD39C4-7D28-48FB-B344-3D1B04CD61DD at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it  
or there will be a camera in the next version.

<http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality-we-think-so/ 


Paul C


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:40:20 +0000
From: Robbie Murray <macman at f2s.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <E788D027-BB47-46F5-A6C8-1E4CE2C1D159 at f2s.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Giving them everything from the outset doesn't leave much to shout  
about when launching the subsequent  'new improved' Mkll, Mklll  
versions:  I'm quite sure one will come along in the future.   After  
all, it's standard practice in automobile design to build in mounts  
and holes for bells & whistles to come later when sales start to  
plateau!

The best description of the iPad I've heard so far was from Leo  
Laporte on Macbreak Weekly (or possibly TWIT) - he calls it a 'content  
consumption device' as opposed to a 'content creation device'

Robbie



On 2 Feb 2010, at 15:16, Paul Chapman wrote:

Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it
or there will be a camera in the next version.

<http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality-we-think-so/


Paul C
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:11:12 +0000
From: Simon Bainbridge <2003r2tech at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] HP ink
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <281903F6-40C5-488D-8C6F-CA90C9BEE86D at googlemail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii;    format=flowed;    delsp=yes

For cheap HP ORIGINAL inks I goto http://justinkandpaper.com

Simon Bainbridge

On 2 Feb 2010, at 11:52, Anthony Brahams  
<anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk> wrote:

I need to buy cartridges for HP Desk Jet and Photosmart printers so
wonder if anyone has recent experience of good value and quality?
Thanks. Just tried Morrisons who did not have correct ones (DJ more
urgent).
Some clones are much cheaper but have less content.

Anthony

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:01:13 +0000
From: Brian Steere <brian at clearlight.uk.net>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <C78E5129.32B40%brian at clearlight.uk.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII"

I appreciated reading this comment on the iPad this morning.
http://vanilladome.co.uk/2010/01/30/future-shock

It's viewing from a different perspective than most of the geeks who are
judging it as if it was aimed at them. It isn't - its a consumer device and
maybe like the iPhone - might become useful in business.

Reminds me of the Mac's birth - dismissed as a toy by the geeks of the day.
(Still is by many no doubt). But the essential things that were dissed were
mouse input, and a GUI featuring windows, Icons and Menus.

These became almost universally adopted as a lot simpler than learning DOS
commands. But the development of computing has become a networked multi
media device that is far too complex for most people to 'just use'.

So it may well be that the tablet - whether Apple's or others, becomes the
consumer device of preference for those who just browse and consume.

And that at some point future, desktop tablets based on the new Apple chip -
a closed system - (worried?) - but free of the plague of security issues.

The cost of simplicity, security and easy usage?

Though I might find it fun to play with - I don't know that I'd have a use
for it - but I'd buy one for my inLaws as a potentially usable communication
enabler. (They wont have a computer but this just might slip past that).

Whether there are enough adopters to get the ball rolling on this one - I
expect so. But the next set of models will have a cam - and no doubt More.

all the best
Brian



Robbie Murray said recently:

Giving them everything from the outset doesn't leave much to shout
about when launching the subsequent  'new improved' Mkll, Mklll
versions:  I'm quite sure one will come along in the future.   After
all, it's standard practice in automobile design to build in mounts
and holes for bells & whistles to come later when sales start to
plateau!

The best description of the iPad I've heard so far was from Leo
Laporte on Macbreak Weekly (or possibly TWIT) - he calls it a 'content
consumption device' as opposed to a 'content creation device'

Robbie



On 2 Feb 2010, at 15:16, Paul Chapman wrote:

Looks like either there was going to be a camera and they stopped it
or there will be a camera in the next version.

<http://blog.missionrepair.com/2010/02/01/ipad-camera-rumor-becoming-a-reality
-we-think-so/


Paul C
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01603 620749
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07882 007667
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:20:30 +0000
From: Richard Nevill <ricnev at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] .mac
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <97A7C043-2324-46EF-A57A-01EA7C7BF35C at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Duh - see how easy it is to get confused!


On 2 Feb 2010, at 09:32, Richard Nevill wrote:

The mobile.me rep seems to be confusing two things:

1. If you want to go to the MobileMe website, you used to be able to just go to www.me.com and you'd be automatically redirected to www.mobileme.com.


Should have been 'you used to be able to just go to www.mac.com and you'd be...'


This redirect ended on January 21 2010. See:

http://www.mac.com/

2. Continued use of pre-existing @mac.com email addresses seems to be assured by:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2857



On 2 Feb 2010, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote:

I have just had a an online chat with a mobileme rep.  I knew all new mobileme addresses were @me.co.uk but discovered that:-

"No, we don't offer @mac  addresses anymore, and soon your e-mail address will be converted over to @me.co.uk.  As of December 31st 2009, .Mac is no longer supported as well as Tiger OS on the Mac."

I did not know - has anyone been told that their .mac address is going?



Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com





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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:40:36 +0000
From: Rob Harrington <robharrington at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <049A076D-5E61-49BE-AEAF-7CA704ECABF1 at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed



. But the next set of models will have a cam - and no doubt More.

all the best
Brian



I think the iPad is a wonderful lazy, Sunday papers- sofa-hugging  
browsing device and understand people's desire for one wand to rule  
them all , but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a  
10"  tablet? In somebody's pocket? When we  have mobile phone cameras  
with 5=6 Megapixales and compact cameras with 12? I used to lug  
5"x4"  cameras about with a nine foot high tripod   but it was a  
dedicated device. Perhaps I have a blind spot about it.
"Why do we mourn for the moon Gerry, when we have the stars?"- ( The  
philosophy of Hollywood" - An unpublished early work of
Rob Harrington.)


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:44:04 +0000
From: Paul Chapman <penguinsplj at me.com>
Subject: Re: [NMUG] A camera in the iPad
To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <3AB13046-5CC8-436C-A094-EE9301A6602A at me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed


On Feb 3, 2010, at 09:40, Rob Harrington wrote:

understand people's desire for one wand to rule
them all , but what is it with this camera on an iPad ? A camera on a
10"  tablet?

Video conferencing/chat for business or friends/family.

Paul C



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From munkt0n at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 12:39:21 2010
From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:39:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Problem with digital still camera movie
In-Reply-To: <DC96D397-1C69-4A38-8F0F-4B8A966C7645@mac.com>
References: <DC96D397-1C69-4A38-8F0F-4B8A966C7645@mac.com>
Message-ID: <ac224bde1002030439n36ae6e01s50d48c650fb1d07c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi June,

It sounds like you've burnt the iMovie project to the CD, instead of
the actual video file.
I've never used iMovie, but I imagine there is an 'export' or 'share'
option in the file menu, look in this menu for something labeled 'save
as MP4' or 'save as AVI' - this will create a video file that you can
then burn onto CD

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, June Perrett <june.perrett at mac.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've made a short 12 minute film using the video/movie mode on a
> digital still camera. I imported it into iMovie and then burned it to
> a CD-R disk to send to a friend. ?It is in MPEG-4 format. ?But when I
> try to play the CD on my computer it will not play. Should I burn it
> on a DVD disk?
>
> This message comes up:
> 'The project could not be opened, because the disk is full, the folder
> is locked, or the folder permission are incorrect.
> If the project is on a CD-ROM, network server or locked disk, then
> copy it to your hard drive before opening it.
> If the project is already on your hard drive, then the disk may be
> completely full, or you may not have permission to modify that folder.
> Correct the problem and try again.'
>
> After reading the message I clicked on 'import' in the drop down list
> under File (of iMovie) and started to import onto the hard drive. But
> got scared when I saw thousands of numbers whizzing by and pressed
> 'cancel'. Thought I'd better ask for some help.
>
> I'd grateful for some help as I'm getting rather frustrated - not able
> to achieve what I set out to do!
>
> Regards
> June
>
>
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From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Wed Feb  3 12:42:32 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:42:32 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Problem with digital still camera movie
Message-ID: <55BC744C-FDAC-4333-94C6-5643E64F057B@virgin.net>

Don't know too much about it, but I would guess that if you are  
working in HD ie high definition, and converting to MPEG4 you are  
degrading quality and perhaps your player doesn't support it?

Ken Arnoldi



On 3 Feb 2010, at 12:24 PM, June Perrett <june.perrett at mac.com> wrote:

> Hi
> Re- my first post asking for some help with my still camera movie.
> I want to mention that I'm working in iMovie HD on an iMac with
> Leopard & iLife '08 installed.
> Regards
> June
>
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From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 12:49:28 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:49:28 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Problem with digital still camera movie
In-Reply-To: <DC96D397-1C69-4A38-8F0F-4B8A966C7645@mac.com>
References: <DC96D397-1C69-4A38-8F0F-4B8A966C7645@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F6390F7C-88FE-426B-8FBB-AE3D0E6FF1F0@durrant.co.uk>

A Scott says, it sounds to me like you've burned the iMovie project to  
the CD-R, which is fine if you want to send the project to you friend,  
but not if you just want them to play the movie.

The error message is presumably because iMovie needs to be able to  
write to any project, and it can't when the project is on a CD-R. (So  
the bits about full disks and permission errors don't apply.)

If iMovie '08 is like iMovie '09 there's a "Share" menu, and you'll  
need to choose opne of the export options on there to get a movie file  
that you can send to your friend.

regards

Paul

On 3 Feb 2010, at 12:05, June Perrett wrote:

> I imported it into iMovie and then burned it to
> a CD-R disk to send to a friend.  It is in MPEG-4 format.  But when I
> try to play the CD on my computer it will not play. Should I burn it
> on a DVD disk?
>
> This message comes up:
> 'The project could not be opened, because the disk is full, the folder
> is locked, or the folder permission are incorrect.
> If the project is on a CD-ROM, network server or locked disk, then
> copy it to your hard drive before opening it.
> If the project is already on your hard drive, then the disk may be
> completely full, or you may not have permission to modify that folder.
> Correct the problem and try again.'


From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Wed Feb  3 15:26:54 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:26:54 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Activation code Word 2008
Message-ID: <7456.652524ab.389aefbe@aol.com>

Have downloaded free trial version of Word 2008 have product code but not  
activation, can anyone help please?

From david at vanedwards.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 16:22:59 2010
From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:22:59 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
Message-ID: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>

Dear All Peter Forrester has rung to ask help and advice, His iMac 
won't start and instead gives out a series of hoots, and not of joy!

Any ideas?

Best wishes,

David
-- 
The Smokehouse,
6 Whitwell Road,
Norwich,  NR1 4HB
England.

Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk



From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 16:49:37 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:49:37 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
In-Reply-To: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <3D263028-8733-4504-86F3-5509F122ADD5@durrant.co.uk>

Beeps on startup usually indicate a hardware fault, as they're emitted  
by the Power-on Self-Test code. See

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547

(or for pre-October 1999 machines, http://support.apple.com/kb/TA43884

If it's one, two or three beeps, it's a memory problem, and removing  
and re-installing the memory might fix things.
See also http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2341

But if it's beeping more times, it's probably a damaged motherboard or  
processor.

Which iMac does he have?

regards,

Paul

On 3 Feb 2010, at 16:22, David Van Edwards wrote:

> Dear All Peter Forrester has rung to ask help and advice, His iMac
> won't start and instead gives out a series of hoots, and not of joy!
>
> Any ideas?


From david at vanedwards.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 17:18:03 2010
From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:18:03 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
In-Reply-To: <3D263028-8733-4504-86F3-5509F122ADD5@durrant.co.uk>
References: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>
	<3D263028-8733-4504-86F3-5509F122ADD5@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <p06240807c78f5f70302a@[192.168.1.100]>

Dear Paul,

Thank you so much!

Indeed it is three beeps and so he's going to check first with John 
Lewis to see  that trying to reseat the memory doesn't void his 
warranty and then try the reseating. It's a very new iMac and he 
moved it to enable BT's engineers to check his phoneline so I expect 
the slight movement has dislodged a connection.

He's very grateful to you.

Best wishes,

David



>Beeps on startup usually indicate a hardware fault, as they're emitted 
>by the Power-on Self-Test code. See
>
>http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547
>
>(or for pre-October 1999 machines, http://support.apple.com/kb/TA43884
>
>If it's one, two or three beeps, it's a memory problem, and removing 
>and re-installing the memory might fix things.
>See also http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2341
>
>But if it's beeping more times, it's probably a damaged motherboard or 
>processor.
>
>Which iMac does he have?
>
>regards,
>
>Paul
>
>On 3 Feb 2010, at 16:22, David Van Edwards wrote:
>
>>  Dear All Peter Forrester has rung to ask help and advice, His iMac
>>  won't start and instead gives out a series of hoots, and not of joy!
>>
>>  Any ideas?
>
>_______________________________________________
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>Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug


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6 Whitwell Road,
Norwich,  NR1 4HB      
England.

Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk


From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Wed Feb  3 17:37:27 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:37:27 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
In-Reply-To: <p06240807c78f5f70302a@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>
	<3D263028-8733-4504-86F3-5509F122ADD5@durrant.co.uk>
	<p06240807c78f5f70302a@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <8361107B-1998-40DF-82CF-7A0CAE7EDFAA@virgin.net>

Please let us know what sort of service he gets from John Lewis.

Ken Arnoldi



On 3 Feb 2010, at 05:18 PM, David Van Edwards <david at vanedwards.co.uk>  
wrote:

> Dear Paul,
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Indeed it is three beeps and so he's going to check first with John
> Lewis to see  that trying to reseat the memory doesn't void his
> warranty and then try the reseating. It's a very new iMac and he
> moved it to enable BT's engineers to check his phoneline so I expect
> the slight movement has dislodged a connection.
>
> He's very grateful to you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David
>
>
>
>> Beeps on startup usually indicate a hardware fault, as they're  
>> emitted
>> by the Power-on Self-Test code. See
>>
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547
>>
>> (or for pre-October 1999 machines, http://support.apple.com/kb/ 
>> TA43884
>>
>> If it's one, two or three beeps, it's a memory problem, and removing
>> and re-installing the memory might fix things.
>> See also http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2341
>>
>> But if it's beeping more times, it's probably a damaged motherboard  
>> or
>> processor.
>>
>> Which iMac does he have?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 3 Feb 2010, at 16:22, David Van Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All Peter Forrester has rung to ask help and advice, His iMac
>>> won't start and instead gives out a series of hoots, and not of joy!
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
>
>
> -- 
> The Smokehouse,
> 6 Whitwell Road,
> Norwich,  NR1 4HB
> England.
>
> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk
>
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From david at vanedwards.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 17:54:07 2010
From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:54:07 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
In-Reply-To: <8361107B-1998-40DF-82CF-7A0CAE7EDFAA@virgin.net>
References: <p06240805c78f52f44313@[192.168.1.100]>
	<3D263028-8733-4504-86F3-5509F122ADD5@durrant.co.uk>
	<p06240807c78f5f70302a@[192.168.1.100]>
	<8361107B-1998-40DF-82CF-7A0CAE7EDFAA@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <p06240808c78f68b15b5d@[192.168.1.100]>

Will do!

David

>Please let us know what sort of service he gets from John Lewis.
>
>Ken Arnoldi
>
>
>
>On 3 Feb 2010, at 05:18 PM, David Van Edwards <david at vanedwards.co.uk> 
>wrote:
>
>>  Dear Paul,
>>
>>  Thank you so much!
>>
>>  Indeed it is three beeps and so he's going to check first with John
>>  Lewis to see  that trying to reseat the memory doesn't void his
>>  warranty and then try the reseating. It's a very new iMac and he
>>  moved it to enable BT's engineers to check his phoneline so I expect
>>  the slight movement has dislodged a connection.
>>
>>  He's very grateful to you.
>>
>>  Best wishes,
>>
>>  David
>>
>>
>>
>>>  Beeps on startup usually indicate a hardware fault, as they're 
>>>  emitted
>>>  by the Power-on Self-Test code. See
>>>
>>>  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547
>>>
>>>  (or for pre-October 1999 machines, http://support.apple.com/kb/
>>>  TA43884
>>>
>>>  If it's one, two or three beeps, it's a memory problem, and removing
>>>  and re-installing the memory might fix things.
>>>  See also http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2341
>>>
>>>  But if it's beeping more times, it's probably a damaged motherboard 
>>>  or
>>>  processor.
>>>
>>>  Which iMac does he have?
>>>
>>>  regards,
>>>
>>>  Paul
>>>
>>>  On 3 Feb 2010, at 16:22, David Van Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Dear All Peter Forrester has rung to ask help and advice, His iMac
>>>>  won't start and instead gives out a series of hoots, and not of joy!
>>>>
>>>>  Any ideas?
>>>
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>  Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
>>>  Manage your subscription at: 
>>>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  The Smokehouse,
>>  6 Whitwell Road,
>>  Norwich,  NR1 4HB
>>  England.
>>
>>  Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
>>  Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
>>  Manage your subscription at: 
>>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
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England.

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From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Fri Feb  5 22:16:31 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 22:16:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
Message-ID: <719461.85791.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I asked a while ago about a route planner to use offline and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.  It is however quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it blind.  Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.  I know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion or Bootcamp.  What are the security implications?  Which programme is best?  What advice would you give me?
I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as and had thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't really want to!
thanks 
Valerie

From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com  Fri Feb  5 23:10:53 2010
From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:10:53 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
In-Reply-To: <719461.85791.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <719461.85791.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D0B8B6C8-C52C-4094-8D76-EC85E800B993@ntlworld.com>

Hi, use Virtualbox from Sum it's free, you can log into windows and use your route planner and alpine  without logging out out of your mac very clever :)

Kerin



On 5 Feb 2010, at 22:16, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:

> I asked a while ago about a route planner to use offline and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.  It is however quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it blind.  Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.  I know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion or Bootcamp.  What are the security implications?  Which programme is best?  What advice would you give me?
> I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as and had thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't really want to!
> thanks 
> Valerie
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From jill at 2js.org  Sat Feb  6 12:19:13 2010
From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:19:13 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] TomTom frustration
Message-ID: <F88455EE-2178-4660-837F-2344B6CEE374@2js.org>

My Tomtom was fine until I upgraded my maps last October. Since using tthome (universal) v 2.7.3.754 to upgrade I have been unable to use the tomtom. It has been returned twice, first time they replaced it, second time they said it worked perfectly (presumably on a pc). Now they are asking me to try upgrading it on a pc which I do not have in case it is my macbookpro's problem!

Is this a usual problem?

From allanmacam at me.com  Sat Feb  6 12:57:16 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:57:16 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] TomTom frustration
In-Reply-To: <F88455EE-2178-4660-837F-2344B6CEE374@2js.org>
References: <F88455EE-2178-4660-837F-2344B6CEE374@2js.org>
Message-ID: <A0819D93-92C7-4C61-A726-1D8CF609809C@me.com>

We recently lost the memory card from out ancient TomTom 300 and (This is confession time, isn't it!) didn't have a Back-up!. Had to get a new card but any none high capacity 2 GB ones from Dixons are fine. Whether it was necessary or not, I followed the instructions from a very helpful and Mac experienced Tech Support guy and reformatted the card as Fat-32, downloaded and installed the older version of software for the 300, this then immediately updated itself to the new version. After that it was a a simple matter of buying and installing the maps again.

Apart from the formatting (Used Windows 7 on Parallels and a card reader for that.) everything else was done on OS X. No problems.

BTW, the telephone Tech Support has certainly improved. 

AJ


On 6 Feb 2010, at 12:19, Jill Searle wrote:

> My Tomtom was fine until I upgraded my maps last October. Since using tthome (universal) v 2.7.3.754 to upgrade I have been unable to use the tomtom. It has been returned twice, first time they replaced it, second time they said it worked perfectly (presumably on a pc). Now they are asking me to try upgrading it on a pc which I do not have in case it is my macbookpro's problem!
> 
> Is this a usual problem?
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From gill at cerise.org.uk  Sat Feb  6 13:31:06 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:31:06 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
Message-ID: <286B10CB-E874-4BC2-BCE8-CA6CA38C6906@cerise.org.uk>

Hi, I was looking at the new magic mice and wondering what people's  
experience with it is? I've tried an apple wireless mouse before but  
hated it because it was too heavy with the batteries. At the moment  
I'm using a lovely light (wired) mighty mouse, but the appeal of  
freeing up a USB slot is making me wonder about the new ones. How do  
they compare, weight-wise?
thanks, Gill

PS thanks Paul and Paul and Robbie for the display advice, I've got a  
fantastic HD screen sitting above my MacBook and it's cured me of my  
urge to buy a new big-screen imac  ;-)


From davidenglish at mac.com  Sat Feb  6 14:06:27 2010
From: davidenglish at mac.com (David English)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:06:27 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
In-Reply-To: <35303723091396199456522347626480045620-Webmail@me.com>
References: <35303723091396199456522347626480045620-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <118942561527169585302721894485545206596-Webmail@me.com>

Hello
I have quite few different mice in my life. I like my magic mouse the best. The track pad combination for scrolling has become very second nature and I should make more use of the command key combination to enlarge stuff when I am working.
David



From macman at f2s.com  Sat Feb  6 14:08:10 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:08:10 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
In-Reply-To: <286B10CB-E874-4BC2-BCE8-CA6CA38C6906@cerise.org.uk>
References: <286B10CB-E874-4BC2-BCE8-CA6CA38C6906@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <0677727A-00EB-4BA1-BD79-14B13E1AAD84@f2s.com>

Hi Gill

I posted this on 31/12 ....

"Santa brought me one too (I would never have even thought about it,  
although my bugbear with every mouse I've ever had has always been  
clogging of the mechanicals).

I absolutely love it - can't praise it highly enough, although I'm  
very happy simply with left & right clickers and scrolling.

I was concerned at first about the sideways swiping - having to keep  
it in one place with thumb and finger while swiping with index and  
middle, but this resolved within 24 hours - all it needed was  
sufficient gunge on the bottom to make it a tiny bit sticky on the  
desktop!


On 31 Jan 2010, at 13:45, Kelvin Youngs wrote:

PS - Had a magic mouse for my birthday and it is fantastic ? if anyone  
else has one check outhttp://magicprefs.com/index.php and you can do  
loads more with it ? almost changes all the functions to work like the  
iPhone and iPod touch!"


It weighs about the same as the wireless mighty mouse, which is 2 x AA  
Batteries heavier than the wired one.
The weight and feel suits me perfectly:  perhaps a visit to the Apple  
store would give you the chance to try one out?
I've had 2 x wireless MMs which I thought were great: only bug being  
the build up of crud under the scroll ball.
The Magic Mouse completely eliminates this problem.    A month down  
the road I haven't found a single drawback.

Robbie




On 6 Feb 2010, at 13:31, Gill Seyfang wrote:

Hi, I was looking at the new magic mice and wondering what people's
experience with it is? I've tried an apple wireless mouse before but
hated it because it was too heavy with the batteries. At the moment
I'm using a lovely light (wired) mighty mouse, but the appeal of
freeing up a USB slot is making me wonder about the new ones. How do
they compare, weight-wise?
thanks, Gill

PS thanks Paul and Paul and Robbie for the display advice, I've got a
fantastic HD screen sitting above my MacBook and it's cured me of my
urge to buy a new big-screen imac  ;-)

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01603 620749
01603 516175
07882 007667
macman at f2s.com


From kelvinyoungs at mac.com  Sat Feb  6 14:16:38 2010
From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:16:38 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
In-Reply-To: <118942561527169585302721894485545206596-Webmail@me.com>
References: <35303723091396199456522347626480045620-Webmail@me.com>
	<118942561527169585302721894485545206596-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <048570C8-1E60-46DF-8AF8-E5C6D4F8A03A@mac.com>

I have one as well ? there is also a program (free) called magic prefs which enable you to do loads more with it.

I also had the old wireless free mouse and experience what you described reference the batteries ? so was a little wary of getting this one.
Time will tell regarding this ? but so far I just think it superb.
Worth the money?
Mmm - great technology agreed
Great looks? It's an Apple so of course it looks great!
Ease of use ? see above.
A lot of money but having had the scroll mouse x 2 they bung up so quickly and impossible to clean.

(Of course someone will now write in and say just do this and that and it will be fine.)

My views then? Buy one!
Check Ebay and they are going for the same price as brand new ones from Apple.

Kelvin


From macman at f2s.com  Sat Feb  6 15:07:14 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:07:14 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
In-Reply-To: <048570C8-1E60-46DF-8AF8-E5C6D4F8A03A@mac.com>
References: <35303723091396199456522347626480045620-Webmail@me.com>
	<118942561527169585302721894485545206596-Webmail@me.com>
	<048570C8-1E60-46DF-8AF8-E5C6D4F8A03A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <191D99F2-82A7-4B43-B89D-BD4DCBB2F104@f2s.com>

Not impossible, but certainly not recommended!

I had a fit of the Simons and took my first one to pieces to clean -  
took 2 days trying to put the miniscule ball bearings & springs back  
in place, then another to replace the tiny ribbon cable joining the 2  
pieces of the device.   Nearly gave up several times, but remembered  
Bruce & the spider, so kept trying, and eventually succeeded.

next time it clogged, I bought a new one ....

Robbie



On 6 Feb 2010, at 14:16, Kelvin Youngs wrote:

....having had the scroll mouse x 2 they bung up so quickly and  
impossible to clean.

(Of course someone will now write in and say just do this and that and  
it will be fine.)

Kelvin

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From dan_tombs at hotmail.com  Sat Feb  6 16:33:10 2010
From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:33:10 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
In-Reply-To: <286B10CB-E874-4BC2-BCE8-CA6CA38C6906@cerise.org.uk>
References: <286B10CB-E874-4BC2-BCE8-CA6CA38C6906@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <COL115-W9467BA00CBF6AEC92A0479C530@phx.gbl>


Hi folks,
i was a 'Magic Mouse' Sceptic till i tried using one - and got hooked - i too was fed up of cleaning the scroll wheel forever on the 'Mighty' so heartly reccomend the very excellent - but expensive magic mouse
but the easiest way i found was to unplug the mouse and turn it upside down and rub the ball on a clean side of A4, seemed to work for me. And working in education looking after 50 Mac Pro's all with Mighty mice i'm surprised i don't do it more often.
here's a link to other peoples approaches
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060210115417864
on another note to hijack this thread:
I have a standard wired Mighty Mouse going Spare if anyone is interested ? Its in Great Condition and is fully boxed with all internal packaging. ?20 o.n.o ? (?35 RRP)
Also got a used once for about half an hour set of iPhone with Mic earphones ! Bought them in a fit of frustration for losing the original ones and promptly found the original ones when i went to wash a jacket ! ?10 o.n.o (?22 RRP) ?
Message me if anyone is interested 
oh and the battery life on the magic mice seem excellent been running mine daily since end of December and haven't reached the half way point on the batteries yet.
Cheers
Dan 



> From: gill at cerise.org.uk
> To: nmug at durrant.co.uk
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:31:06 +0000
> Subject: [NMUG] magic mouse?
> 
> Hi, I was looking at the new magic mice and wondering what people's  
> experience with it is? I've tried an apple wireless mouse before but  
> hated it because it was too heavy with the batteries. At the moment  
> I'm using a lovely light (wired) mighty mouse, but the appeal of  
> freeing up a USB slot is making me wonder about the new ones. How do  
> they compare, weight-wise?
> thanks, Gill
> 
> PS thanks Paul and Paul and Robbie for the display advice, I've got a  
> fantastic HD screen sitting above my MacBook and it's cured me of my  
> urge to buy a new big-screen imac  ;-)
> 
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From flavirostris at googlemail.com  Sat Feb  6 21:32:33 2010
From: flavirostris at googlemail.com (Phil Atkinson)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:32:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Startup problem
Message-ID: <688795531002061332j368cb55l324e132df345ce54@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I have had an iMac g5 PPC for aobut  years now and never had a
problem.  Last night however it froze and I had to power off because
force quitting didn;t work

When I started up various things happened (fan racing, blank blue
screens) but after the third or fourth attempt all I get now is a
flashing question mark on startup.

I have run Disk Utility on the startup CD. I get the following:

Checking HFS Plus Volume.
Checking Extents Overflow
Checking Catalog file
Invalid key length [IN RED]
Volume Check Failed [IN RED]

This sounds pretty terminal to me - my last back up was a few months
ago (typically I was thinking I should get round to doing it again in
the next few weeks!). Does anyone know what the chances of recovering
data are (& where to go?)

Many thanks!

Phil

From flavirostris at googlemail.com  Sat Feb  6 21:32:33 2010
From: flavirostris at googlemail.com (Phil Atkinson)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:32:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Startup problem
Message-ID: <688795531002061332j368cb55l324e132df345ce54@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I have had an iMac g5 PPC for aobut  years now and never had a
problem.  Last night however it froze and I had to power off because
force quitting didn;t work

When I started up various things happened (fan racing, blank blue
screens) but after the third or fourth attempt all I get now is a
flashing question mark on startup.

I have run Disk Utility on the startup CD. I get the following:

Checking HFS Plus Volume.
Checking Extents Overflow
Checking Catalog file
Invalid key length [IN RED]
Volume Check Failed [IN RED]

This sounds pretty terminal to me - my last back up was a few months
ago (typically I was thinking I should get round to doing it again in
the next few weeks!). Does anyone know what the chances of recovering
data are (& where to go?)

Many thanks!

Phil

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Sat Feb  6 23:05:34 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:05:34 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Startup problem
In-Reply-To: <688795531002061332j368cb55l324e132df345ce54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <688795531002061332j368cb55l324e132df345ce54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <709499C6-82F2-4D4E-B32E-C71C552CF7F7@durrant.co.uk>

DiskWarrior might be able to recover your disk where Disk Utility  
cannot.

http://www.alsoft.com/Diskwarrior/index.html

Assuming, of course, that it's not the hardware at fault. I wouldn't  
have expected the Disk Utility test to get as far as it did if it was  
a hardware problem. I think that the AppleStore at Chapelfield stocks  
DiskWarrior. (If you don't have a bootable system disk, you'll need to  
boot off the DiskWrrior DVD - the download won't help as it's just the  
application.).

regards,

Paul

On 6 Feb 2010, at 21:32, Phil Atkinson wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I have had an iMac g5 PPC for aobut  years now and never had a
> problem.  Last night however it froze and I had to power off because
> force quitting didn;t work
>
> When I started up various things happened (fan racing, blank blue
> screens) but after the third or fourth attempt all I get now is a
> flashing question mark on startup.
>
> I have run Disk Utility on the startup CD. I get the following:
>
> Checking HFS Plus Volume.
> Checking Extents Overflow
> Checking Catalog file
> Invalid key length [IN RED]
> Volume Check Failed [IN RED]
>
> This sounds pretty terminal to me - my last back up was a few months
> ago (typically I was thinking I should get round to doing it again in
> the next few weeks!). Does anyone know what the chances of recovering
> data are (& where to go?)
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Phil
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From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  7 07:08:00 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:08:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] Windows on Mac
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1265457601.97767.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Thanks Kevin,I've looked at Virtualbox but I don't really understand all the instructions.  Going right back to basics, how do I actually get Windows on to it.  What about security?
Sorry to be so obtuse?
Valerie

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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 22:16:31 +0000 (GMT)
> From: VALERIE HARDMAN <valeriehardman at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Message-ID: <719461.85791.qm at web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> I asked a while ago about a route planner to use offline
> and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.? It is however
> quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it
> blind.? Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute
> 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.? I
> know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion
> or Bootcamp.? What are the security implications??
> Which programme is best?? What advice would you give
> me?
> I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as and had
> thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't really
> want to!
> thanks 
> Valerie
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:10:53 +0000
> From: Kerin Westgate <kj.westgate at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <D0B8B6C8-C52C-4094-8D76-EC85E800B993 at ntlworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi, use Virtualbox from Sum it's free, you can log into
> windows and use your route planner and alpine? without
> logging out out of your mac very clever :)
> 
> Kerin
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Feb 2010, at 22:16, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:
> 
> > I asked a while ago about a route planner to use
> offline and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.? It is
> however quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it
> blind.? Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute
> 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.? I
> know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion
> or Bootcamp.? What are the security implications??
> Which programme is best?? What advice would you give
> me?
> > I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as
> and had thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't
> really want to!
> > thanks 
> > Valerie
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From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com  Sun Feb  7 09:48:21 2010
From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:48:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Windows on Mac
In-Reply-To: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E13B1F13-6B23-4304-A1CE-28E1B97411E3@ntlworld.com>

as you only want run a route planner security should not be a problem as your not going to be online, I think thats what you said you wanted.
if you download Virtualbox from sun and install that, it's handy to put it on your dock,  so that when you want to run windows you first have to start Virtualbox just like any other application you have, you can then start up windows and you end up with what looks like a windows pc sitting on top of your mac desk top, of course you will need a windows XP, Vista  (with at least service pack 2) or windows 7 disk to install the windows though.
If needs be I could talk you through it on the phone or try and get hold of this month's mac mag it has a write up about it in that.
Kerin




On 7 Feb 2010, at 07:08, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:

> Thanks Kevin,I've looked at Virtualbox but I don't really understand all the instructions.  Going right back to basics, how do I actually get Windows on to it.  What about security?
> Sorry to be so obtuse?
> Valerie
> 
> --- On Sat, 6/2/10, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk <nmug-request at nmug.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> From: nmug-request at nmug.org.uk <nmug-request at nmug.org.uk>
>> Subject: NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 9
>> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
>> Date: Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 12:00
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>> Westgate)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 22:16:31 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: VALERIE HARDMAN <valeriehardman at btinternet.com>
>> Subject: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
>> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> I asked a while ago about a route planner to use offline
>> and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.  It is however
>> quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it
>> blind.  Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute
>> 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.  I
>> know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion
>> or Bootcamp.  What are the security implications? 
>> Which programme is best?  What advice would you give
>> me?
>> I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as and had
>> thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't really
>> want to!
>> thanks 
>> Valerie
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:10:53 +0000
>> From: Kerin Westgate <kj.westgate at ntlworld.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] microsoft autoroute on mac
>> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
>> Message-ID: <D0B8B6C8-C52C-4094-8D76-EC85E800B993 at ntlworld.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Hi, use Virtualbox from Sum it's free, you can log into
>> windows and use your route planner and alpine  without
>> logging out out of your mac very clever :)
>> 
>> Kerin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Feb 2010, at 22:16, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:
>> 
>>> I asked a while ago about a route planner to use
>> offline and Paul kindly suggested Route Buddy.  It is
>> however quite expensive, especially when I'd be buying it
>> blind.  Several people have said Microsoft Autoroute
>> 2010 would be good, but of course it is Windows.  I
>> know I can run Windows on my Mac with Parallels or VMFusion
>> or Bootcamp.  What are the security implications? 
>> Which programme is best?  What advice would you give
>> me?
>>> I also need Windows to update our Alpine sat nav as
>> and had thought of just buying a cheapish PC, but I don't
>> really want to!
>>> thanks 
>>> Valerie
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From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb  7 10:54:25 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:54:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Windows on Mac
In-Reply-To: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BDA3CF6D-8539-4135-BDEF-874B37A1DC02@f2s.com>

You install Virtual Box, which is an emulator of a PC upon which you  
install Windows, either by a physical disc or a downloaded disk image  
(which I did with Windows 7 last year when the Release candidate was  
free,  and when you're running this 'computer within a computer' it is  
subject to all the security vulnerabilities and issues of any physical  
Windows PC, but only on the virtual machine: in other words, the  
Windows installation could be wrecked by malware and viruses and  
rendered unusable, but your Mac system would be unaffected.   In this  
instance I guess you would simply wipe the virtual machine and start  
again ....

..  unless I've misunderstood, in which case no doubt someone will  
very quickly put us all right!

Robbie



On 7 Feb 2010, at 07:08, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:

Thanks Kevin,I've looked at Virtualbox but I don't really understand  
all the instructions.  Going right back to basics, how do I actually  
get Windows on to it.  What about security?
Sorry to be so obtuse?
Valerie




From ricnev at mac.com  Sun Feb  7 11:34:42 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:34:42 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Windows on Mac
In-Reply-To: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <637805.12287.qm@web86505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3A4808AC-1B77-49D9-BB46-DE522AAD3A1C@mac.com>


On 7 Feb 2010, at 07:08, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:

> I've looked at Virtualbox but I don't really understand all the instructions.


Instructions are often written by Techies who frequently make the simple look complex.
Look past the instructions to the simple stages in the process.



>  Going right back to basics, how do I actually get Windows on to it.



There are two stages:

1. Run Virtualbox. 

2. Install Windows.


There is a video showing how to do it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_HYPuF6Hc


Note: this shows how to install Windows XP as a virtual OS on a Windows Vista host. The steps should be similar using a Mac as the host.



>  What about security?


You need to take the same security precautions any Windows user should follow.

I run a number of different varieties of Windows, and have never been infected with a virus or had a malware infiltration.

I run Windows XP, Vista or 7's own firewall, AVG anti-virus free, Lavasoft Ad-Aware Free and Spybot Search and Destroy on my machines.

I ensure all security programs are kept up to date, use the latest virus/malware definition files and allow Windows to update itself automatically.

I never go anywhere near peculiar websites, or click on anything remotely suspicious.

If you file away a copy of your virtual machine when it is fresh and clean, you can keep this to one side just in case your working copy does get infected - it is a 'simple' job to wipe a virtual machine and re-instate using the copy.



Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From gill at cerise.org.uk  Sun Feb  7 13:37:16 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:37:16 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] clogging mice
In-Reply-To: <mailman.670.1265497536.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
References: <mailman.670.1265497536.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CC5EC1C1-5713-4CB8-AF0B-18DA3CF3D044@cerise.org.uk>


On 6 Feb 2010, at 23:05, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote:

> I had a fit of the Simons and took my first one to pieces to clean

this made me smile! But like Dan, I've never had a problem with wheel- 
clog - I use the same technique and just rub it upside down on some  
clean paper every few months and it's sorted.

Thanks for the mice tips, I should probably have a fit of the Simons  
myself and go to the Apple store to have a play with one, but the  
weight will be a determining factor and it sounds like it will be too  
heavy for me.

cheers, Gill

From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb  7 14:25:17 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:25:17 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] clogging mice
In-Reply-To: <CC5EC1C1-5713-4CB8-AF0B-18DA3CF3D044@cerise.org.uk>
References: <mailman.670.1265497536.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
	<CC5EC1C1-5713-4CB8-AF0B-18DA3CF3D044@cerise.org.uk>
Message-ID: <6071A756-1252-474D-BC7F-0A9AEAE795B1@f2s.com>

1. I doubt, Gill, that your dainty hands generate the same level of  
crud as my sweaty mitts - I'm always being berated by my daughters for  
the state of my keyboard!

2.  I'ts certainly worth a try - unless you actually lift it, it has a  
very smooth bottom, which glides effortlessly over the desktop - like  
a little pair of skis!
(Don't do a Simon though - no sledgehammers allowed!)

:-)

Robbie






On 7 Feb 2010, at 13:37, Gill Seyfang wrote:


On 6 Feb 2010, at 23:05, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote:

> I had a fit of the Simons and took my first one to pieces to clean

this made me smile! But like Dan, I've never had a problem with wheel-
clog - I use the same technique and just rub it upside down on some
clean paper every few months and it's sorted.

Thanks for the mice tips, I should probably have a fit of the Simons
myself and go to the Apple store to have a play with one, but the
weight will be a determining factor and it sounds like it will be too
heavy for me.

cheers, Gill
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From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  7 16:32:24 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:32:24 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] intel imacs
Message-ID: <DB6913E8-06CB-4A13-8299-C4208369D2F5@btinternet.com>

I know I ought to have paid attention to previous posts   
(retrospective wisdom)

but what do I need to install Windows or Vista on my intel imac?

Its running 10.5.8
2.66ghz intel core 2 duo

Is Bootcamp all I need - I hope so as Its on the imac already - or do  
I need parallels ... another mystery to fathom

if any of the nmug are in Norwich before the 15th there is a great  
exhibition at the Forum - Elements -  my painting Bee Lament was  
selected. There are some amazing work in the show.

thanks all


Heather


Heather Tamplin
www.heathertamplin.co.uk







From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  7 16:36:21 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:36:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] and ...........
Message-ID: <0D316C78-B165-4B9A-ADB0-8F3758B99CF3@btinternet.com>

which windows os is best

Vista -

or can I run windows 7

windows xp ??????

the mystery deepens



Heather Tamplin
www.heathertamplin.co.uk





From swimwire at googlemail.com  Sun Feb  7 16:46:33 2010
From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:46:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] and ...........
In-Reply-To: <0D316C78-B165-4B9A-ADB0-8F3758B99CF3@btinternet.com>
References: <0D316C78-B165-4B9A-ADB0-8F3758B99CF3@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <E21BC08F-5225-4602-BE14-31CBAB1DD04D@googlemail.com>

The most reliable in most people's opinions is Windows XP. Windows Vista had very bad reviews and is generally disliked by most, and Windows 7, the latest version, is based upon Vista but a huge improvement.

I have used all 3 OS's and personally I would recommend Windows 7. If you don't want to pay that much or whatever, choose XP - NEVER install Vista. Ever. ;-)

Jack

On 7 Feb 2010, at 16:36, Heather Tamplin wrote:

> which windows os is best
> 
> Vista -
> 
> or can I run windows 7
> 
> windows xp ??????
> 
> the mystery deepens
> 
> 
> 
> Heather Tamplin
> www.heathertamplin.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> 
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general:   swimwire at googlemail.com
http://jackwebbheller.com


From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb  7 17:16:58 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:16:58 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] and ...........
In-Reply-To: <0D316C78-B165-4B9A-ADB0-8F3758B99CF3@btinternet.com>
References: <0D316C78-B165-4B9A-ADB0-8F3758B99CF3@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <6930D04F-4C5F-4C21-8E19-72EB8A4260F6@f2s.com>

Vista is generally seen as awful.  XP is stable, but 9 years old.   
Windows 7 is what Vista should have been, and is certainly the closest  
ever to a Mac - like interface.

You can install using Boot Camp on a separate partition, or with an  
emulator running inside OSX.

See the recent history in the group archive ...

Robbie


On 7 Feb 2010, at 16:36, Heather Tamplin wrote:

which windows os is best

Vista -

or can I run windows 7

windows xp ??????

the mystery deepens



Heather Tamplin
www.heathertamplin.co.uk




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From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Sun Feb  7 17:34:12 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:34:12 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Windows/Mac
Message-ID: <CAA85DC1-7FD8-41B9-BE8C-CC31D9012ACB@virgin.net>


Heather,
You may not be aware that if Windows is installed via Bootcamp it is  
necessary to reboot (by pressing option on startup), and this has to  
be done each time one changes from Mac OS to Windows. Also there is no  
evidence that when using one OS that the other exists!
However, if installed via VB, then it is easy to switch from Mac to  
Windows without rebooting.

Ken Arnoldi


From jill at 2js.org  Sun Feb  7 17:51:45 2010
From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:51:45 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] VirtualBox & tthome?
Message-ID: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>

Perhaps Virtualbox might solve my Tomtom problem? 
To upgrade the tomtom I have to log onto tthome online for up to 30 minutes, . 
I am moving to Plusnet as Pipex have just arbitrarily doubled my broadband cost! Plusnet advertise a secure connection for PC's would this be safe?

From ricnev at mac.com  Sun Feb  7 18:12:10 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:12:10 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] VirtualBox & tthome?
In-Reply-To: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>
References: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>
Message-ID: <1C02A4F4-CD3C-40B3-BAF5-60EB5552A225@mac.com>


On 7 Feb 2010, at 17:51, Jill Searle wrote:

> Plusnet advertise a secure connection for PC's would this be safe?

Not completely. Many ISPs do a certain amount of spam-trapping and malware filtering, but in my opinion you should still run a selection of security software locally on any Windows machine.

It must be kept up to date, though - if updating is neglected those nasties can soon creep through!

Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From marydaykin at mac.com  Sun Feb  7 19:26:45 2010
From: marydaykin at mac.com (Mary Daykin)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:26:45 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Compatible Printer
Message-ID: <4F5655F7-490F-45F4-A16E-DC9E1271CD85@mac.com>

Can anyone recommend a printer that works wirelessly with both Leopard/ 
Snow Leopard and windows Vista. It has to scan word documents and  
print photo's. My Epson Stylus RX500 has just given up the ghost.
Thanks
Mary

From alanbarber at mac.com  Sun Feb  7 20:17:31 2010
From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:17:31 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] safari
Message-ID: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>

Is there somewhere in Safari I can review my passwords.

Regards

Alan
		


From alan at asw6000.plus.com  Sun Feb  7 20:51:21 2010
From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:51:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] safari
In-Reply-To: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>
References: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>
Message-ID: <43E90FF1-EAE8-4B77-B805-F240F230F184@asw6000.plus.com>

You can view some passwords in Utilities , keychain access.

Alan

On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:17, Alan Barber wrote:

> Is there somewhere in Safari I can review my passwords.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alan
> 		
> 
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From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb  7 20:52:31 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:52:31 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] safari
In-Reply-To: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>
References: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C80C76F5-3E46-4DE0-A446-1BEF9FC9B7ED@f2s.com>

Utilities > Key Chain Access will list all passwords including web  
logins (Web form passwords), but you will probably need to authorise  
with the user password to view...


On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:17, Alan Barber wrote:

Is there somewhere in Safari I can review my passwords.

Regards

Alan
		

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From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com  Sun Feb  7 21:38:05 2010
From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Simon Bainbridge2003r2tech@googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:38:05 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] VirtualBox & tthome?
In-Reply-To: <1C02A4F4-CD3C-40B3-BAF5-60EB5552A225@mac.com>
References: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>
	<1C02A4F4-CD3C-40B3-BAF5-60EB5552A225@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2EF0DEA3-C398-4C30-A9C4-9855F0779CB1@googlemail.com>

Although AVG Anti Virus (free version) is pretty good at keeping your  
Windows PC Virus/malware free, Microsoft have the own free security  
software called 'Microsoft Security Essentials'.

Microsoft Security Essentials is two products that have come together,  
Windows Live Onecare a paid for suite a few years ago and Windows  
defender which was free.

This means that Microsoft provides an all in one security suite that  
protects you from Viruses, Malware, Trojans & Spyware. The suite is  
free & can be downloaded directly from the Microsoft web site.

It has been recomended by Microsoft experts including Paul Thurott - http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/mse.asp

I run this on my Windows PC's at home and have found it very light  
weight which means it does not slow your PC down. Also more  
importantly itdoes an excellent job at keeping my PC's virus etc free  
without having to run any other security software.

Simon Bainbridge

On 7 Feb 2010, at 18:12, Richard Nevill <ricnev at mac.com> wrote:

>
> On 7 Feb 2010, at 17:51, Jill Searle wrote:
>
>> Plusnet advertise a secure connection for PC's would this be safe?
>
> Not completely. Many ISPs do a certain amount of spam-trapping and  
> malware filtering, but in my opinion you should still run a  
> selection of security software locally on any Windows machine.
>
> It must be kept up to date, though - if updating is neglected those  
> nasties can soon creep through!
>
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
>
>
>
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> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com  Sun Feb  7 21:57:15 2010
From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Simon Bainbridge)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:57:15 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Compatible Printer
In-Reply-To: <4F5655F7-490F-45F4-A16E-DC9E1271CD85@mac.com>
References: <4F5655F7-490F-45F4-A16E-DC9E1271CD85@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5DABC7D1-4839-43E8-90DE-F300D388199B@googlemail.com>

Mary

I would advise on getting this printer - HP Officejet J4680 All-in-One  
Colour Ink-jet - Fax / copier / printer / scanner - http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=hp+officejet+j4680&ved=0CCwQrQQwAw&cid=6782749213451622408&sa=title#p

I have one of these that I share on a network at home with 2 windows  
PC's and Mac running Snow Leopard which was running Leopard just a few  
weeks ago. It is very good printer that I can see myself having for  
along time. Highly recommend it to anyone!

Hope this helps

Simon Bainbridge


On 7 Feb 2010, at 19:26, Mary Daykin wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a printer that works wirelessly with both  
> Leopard/
> Snow Leopard and windows Vista. It has to scan word documents and
> print photo's. My Epson Stylus RX500 has just given up the ghost.
> Thanks
> Mary
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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From ricnev at mac.com  Sun Feb  7 22:25:38 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:25:38 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] VirtualBox & tthome?
In-Reply-To: <2EF0DEA3-C398-4C30-A9C4-9855F0779CB1@googlemail.com>
References: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>
	<1C02A4F4-CD3C-40B3-BAF5-60EB5552A225@mac.com>
	<2EF0DEA3-C398-4C30-A9C4-9855F0779CB1@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4B83E8AE-DBC7-457C-A42A-26B1C1DE32C3@mac.com>


On 7 Feb 2010, at 21:38, Simon Bainbridge2003r2tech at googlemail.com recommended:

> Microsoft Security Essentials 


and gave a link to this article:

> 
>  Paul Thurott - http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/mse.asp


Thanks for that heads up, Simon. I didn't know that Microsoft Security essentials had developed in this way.

I will certainly give it a whirl as it seems to go some way towards being the Holy Grail of a simple yet effective security suite for Windows.

Anything to keep life simple on Windows when I have to use it!



Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com  Sun Feb  7 23:13:08 2010
From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Simon Bainbridge2003r2tech@googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:13:08 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] VirtualBox & tthome?
In-Reply-To: <4B83E8AE-DBC7-457C-A42A-26B1C1DE32C3@mac.com>
References: <399FD538-C7C1-43A4-A63C-21A9FC2F4194@2js.org>
	<1C02A4F4-CD3C-40B3-BAF5-60EB5552A225@mac.com>
	<2EF0DEA3-C398-4C30-A9C4-9855F0779CB1@googlemail.com>
	<4B83E8AE-DBC7-457C-A42A-26B1C1DE32C3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <146937F0-C504-4DE6-8ABF-600A7101B9E7@googlemail.com>

That's ok I'm just glad that Microsoft is doing something decent for  
their users for once. ;)

Simon Bainbridge

On 7 Feb 2010, at 22:25, Richard Nevill <ricnev at mac.com> wrote:

>
> On 7 Feb 2010, at 21:38, Simon Bainbridge2003r2tech at googlemail.com  
> recommended:
>
>> Microsoft Security Essentials
>
>
> and gave a link to this article:
>
>>
>> Paul Thurott - http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/mse.asp
>
>
> Thanks for that heads up, Simon. I didn't know that Microsoft  
> Security essentials had developed in this way.
>
> I will certainly give it a whirl as it seems to go some way towards  
> being the Holy Grail of a simple yet effective security suite for  
> Windows.
>
> Anything to keep life simple on Windows when I have to use it!
>
>
>
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
>
>
>
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From alanbarber at mac.com  Mon Feb  8 07:59:15 2010
From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:59:15 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] safari
In-Reply-To: <C80C76F5-3E46-4DE0-A446-1BEF9FC9B7ED@f2s.com>
References: <051C08D0-0DC2-4C1A-934D-13156D40C917@mac.com>
	<C80C76F5-3E46-4DE0-A446-1BEF9FC9B7ED@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <C451319A-6B82-479F-99B0-8F5D30793028@mac.com>

Thanks to Robbie and Alan - ebay app now on ipod touch.
Regards

Alan
		

On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:52, Robbie Murray wrote:

> Utilities > Key Chain Access will list all passwords including web
> logins (Web form passwords), but you will probably need to authorise
> with the user password to view...
>
>
> On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:17, Alan Barber wrote:
>
> Is there somewhere in Safari I can review my passwords.
>
> Regards
>
> Alan
> 		
>
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From rob at lucking.idps.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 08:23:55 2010
From: rob at lucking.idps.co.uk (Rob Lucking)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:23:55 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iTunes not recognising iPod
Message-ID: <A7F73043-A10D-4FF7-A4A1-30005CC893A5@lucking.idps.co.uk>

Hi all

Wonder whether anyone can help me. I've just connected my iPod touch  
to my iBook to synchronise libraries and iTunes isn't recognising the  
iPod - at least it doesn't show up in the library column on the left  
hand side of the screen. This is the first time that it's happened  
and I've been able to synchronise without any problems before. Any  
advice would be appreciated!

Thanks

Rob

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 10:43:34 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:43:34 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iTunes not recognising iPod
In-Reply-To: <A7F73043-A10D-4FF7-A4A1-30005CC893A5@lucking.idps.co.uk>
References: <A7F73043-A10D-4FF7-A4A1-30005CC893A5@lucking.idps.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4707FD10-B26C-4AF4-B385-D22723D71EA5@durrant.co.uk>

The first thing to check is that it appears in the list of USB devices  
in Apple System Profiler (Apple Menu/About This Mac/More Info  - then  
select USB and see if the iPod is listed .)

If it's there then it's probably some kind of software problem. If  
it's not there - check your cable, etc.

regards,

Paul

On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:23, Rob Lucking wrote:
> Wonder whether anyone can help me. I've just connected my iPod touch
> to my iBook to synchronise libraries and iTunes isn't recognising the
> iPod - at least it doesn't show up in the library column on the left
> hand side of the screen. This is the first time that it's happened
> and I've been able to synchronise without any problems before. Any
> advice would be appreciated!


From alan at asw6000.plus.com  Mon Feb  8 10:46:04 2010
From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:46:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] unreceived emails
Message-ID: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>

A friend with a pc is suddenly not receiving my emails. Have checked her junk file with no luck . Anyone got any ideas ?

regards
Alan
alan at asw6000.plus.com




From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 10:54:50 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:54:50 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] unreceived emails
In-Reply-To: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>
References: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>
Message-ID: <60753D24-AF80-43EB-8C92-76E336BE0D2E@durrant.co.uk>

Obviously other people are receiving your emails, so it's unlikely to  
be a problem with your computer or your ISP's mail server.

My guess would be an overly enthusiastic filter at her ISP. She needs  
to complain to her ISP that she hasn't received email that she knows  
were sent to her. (Having timings and addresses for this might help.)

regards,

Paul

On 8 Feb 2010, at 10:46, Alan Williams wrote:

> A friend with a pc is suddenly not receiving my emails. Have checked  
> her junk file with no luck . Anyone got any ideas ?


From gill at cerise.org.uk  Mon Feb  8 10:55:08 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:55:08 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] dial-up internet experiences
Message-ID: <A926CD28-8C8A-4958-8796-D544251C8CFE@cerise.org.uk>

Hi,
just thought I'd update you on my experiences with dial-up internet,  
when I was setting up an old imac with some friends for their first go  
on the internet.

First of all, it wasn't half as bad as I was expecting, speed-wise! I  
tried Nippy but they kept disconnecting me every 5 minutes. So I tried  
F2S which seemed relatively quick and stable, and 1p a minute at  
weekends and weekday evenings.

My main observation wasn't to do with the dial-up, but rather how  
UNintuitive a computer is for someone who's never used one before! Not  
only struggling to find each letter on the keyboard (making typing in  
a search term take forever), but then taking the mouse and pointing it  
at a random bit of screen to make the page scroll down! Never mind  
menus. I'm sure they'll gain confidence with a bit of practice, but I  
can see it was quite bewildering and mystifying for them.

On the other hand, an iPad will be just the thing - intuitive  
navigation, no complicated OS to grapple with, everything visual and  
at the touch of a finger, and they could have it on their laps in the  
living room rather than in a cold spare bedroom. So I'll be first in  
line to get them one when they're out - I'm sure they'll love it. As  
Brian said, the iPad's are perfect for those who aren't into computers.

Gill

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Mon Feb  8 11:15:25 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:15:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] unreceived emails
In-Reply-To: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>
References: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>
Message-ID: <DAB34CA5-7928-43D4-8DC2-3C6A3A02BD3C@virgin.net>

Suggest she sends an email to herself, always an easy test!

Ken Arnoldi



On 8 Feb 2010, at 10:46 AM, Alan Williams <alan at asw6000.plus.com> wrote:

> A friend with a pc is suddenly not receiving my emails. Have checked  
> her junk file with no luck . Anyone got any ideas ?
>
> regards
> Alan
> alan at asw6000.plus.com
>
>
>
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From alan at asw6000.plus.com  Mon Feb  8 11:24:23 2010
From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:24:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] unreceived emails
In-Reply-To: <DAB34CA5-7928-43D4-8DC2-3C6A3A02BD3C@virgin.net>
References: <42C858CC-F21C-4B87-85BE-EEC7F8AFB0E6@asw6000.plus.com>
	<DAB34CA5-7928-43D4-8DC2-3C6A3A02BD3C@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <B585AACF-E3B4-4B51-9C27-A953F3C172C7@asw6000.plus.com>

Tried that Ken with no problem. Also she is getting emails from others . It just seems to be mine !!!!!!!

On 8 Feb 2010, at 11:15, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> Suggest she sends an email to herself, always an easy test!
> 
> Ken Arnoldi
> 
> 
> 
>> 
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From marydaykin at mac.com  Mon Feb  8 11:34:51 2010
From: marydaykin at mac.com (Mary Daykin)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:34:51 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Compatible printer
Message-ID: <7D121657-CF38-424E-860F-DA6095200CD5@mac.com>

Many apologies if I have replied to the wrong place ! Not sure what to  
click on to reply to answers. Just wanted to say thank you to Simon.
Mary

From david at vanedwards.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 12:14:21 2010
From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:14:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting?
In-Reply-To: <28385A9D-F0A2-4BF5-ADA1-C578D42FC742@mac.com>
References: <p06240805c77793aee644@[192.168.1.101]>
	<0EBEABE4-976C-475C-8E30-F9C9CD9BAF3B@f2s.com>
	<p06240807c777d52f09fc@[192.168.1.101]>
	<28385A9D-F0A2-4BF5-ADA1-C578D42FC742@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c795ac700351@[192.168.1.100]>

Dear Richard,

Are you doing a meeting this Saturday? Peter Forrester asked me to 
ask as his iMac is in for repairs at the moment.

He took it to John Lewis and they've apparently sent it on to Byte 
Systems for repair. I promised Ken I'd report on JL's service and 
will do when it's finished!

Best wishes,

David


-- 
The Smokehouse,
6 Whitwell Road,
Norwich,  NR1 4HB
England.

Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk



From phil.atkinson at bto.org  Mon Feb  8 13:13:46 2010
From: phil.atkinson at bto.org (Phil Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:13:46 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Leopard
Message-ID: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All

Thanks to Paul for the suggestion of using DiskWarrior to recover my
lost drive. It worked and now I've a new drive on order. Not cheap at
?100 but at least everything seems to have been recovered

However it got me thinking more carefully about backing up - if I want
to run Time Machine I need to be running Leopard. I was wondering if
anyone on the group might have upgraded and have a spare copy of
Leopard they are willing to sell?

Thanks

Phil

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 14:30:52 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:30:52 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Leopard
In-Reply-To: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>
References: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F67113F-7C4C-46CE-8349-40B049D9D60C@durrant.co.uk>

Dear Phil,

So glad to hear that DiskWarrior did the trick. It is quite expensive,  
but a lot cheaper than a data recovery company. Of course, if it had  
been the disk hardware that had failed, rather than a system crash  
leading to a bad directory structure error....

I do highly recommend Time Machine as the first part of your backup  
strategy. Add in occasional backups of vital data to DVD-Rs (i.e. any  
documents you've created -- text, photos, movies, email, etc -- or  
bought that can't be re-downloaded) adds an extra layer of protection.

Unfortunately, most people will have bought Snow Leopard as an upgrade  
to Leopard, and so won't be able to sell on the old version. (Unlike  
with Tiger->Leopard, where all copies of Leopard were upgrades from  
any previous Mac OS X.)

But perhaps someone on the group will have bought the Leopard/iLife/ 
iwork pack instead, and have their copy of Leopard available.


On 8 Feb 2010, at 13:13, Phil Atkinson wrote:
>
> Thanks to Paul for the suggestion of using DiskWarrior to recover my
> lost drive. It worked and now I've a new drive on order. Not cheap at
> ?100 but at least everything seems to have been recovered
>
> However it got me thinking more carefully about backing up - if I want
> to run Time Machine I need to be running Leopard. I was wondering if
> anyone on the group might have upgraded and have a spare copy of
> Leopard they are willing to sell?


From sc at davidviner.com  Mon Feb  8 17:11:00 2010
From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:11:00 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] For those that can't wait...
In-Reply-To: <6F67113F-7C4C-46CE-8349-40B049D9D60C@durrant.co.uk>
References: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F67113F-7C4C-46CE-8349-40B049D9D60C@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4B7045A4.5080202@davidviner.com>

...the DIY version

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/06/ipad-sighting-at-nyc-starbucks-and-make-your-own-paper-ipad/


From macman at f2s.com  Mon Feb  8 17:23:50 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:23:50 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] For those that can't wait...
In-Reply-To: <4B7045A4.5080202@davidviner.com>
References: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F67113F-7C4C-46CE-8349-40B049D9D60C@durrant.co.uk>
	<4B7045A4.5080202@davidviner.com>
Message-ID: <DD230A51-B7C2-46D4-B392-C9AC39DD9313@f2s.com>

I like it!

Brought back memories of Neddy Seagoon being conned into buying a  
cardboard cutout of the Eiffel Tower from Hercules Grytpype-Thynne...
... which he paid for with a photograph of a ?5.00 note .......


On 8 Feb 2010, at 17:11, David Viner wrote:

...the DIY version

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/06/ipad-sighting-at-nyc-starbucks-and-make-your-own-paper-ipad/

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01603 516175
07882 007667
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From penguinsplj at me.com  Mon Feb  8 17:44:05 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:44:05 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] For those that can't wait...
In-Reply-To: <4B7045A4.5080202@davidviner.com>
References: <688795531002080513r3a691252jd203907ac0f39575@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F67113F-7C4C-46CE-8349-40B049D9D60C@durrant.co.uk>
	<4B7045A4.5080202@davidviner.com>
Message-ID: <A8F58523-DB08-43F4-89AD-13F1A5399DEC@me.com>


On Feb 8, 2010, at 17:11, David Viner wrote:

> ...the DIY version
>
> http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/06/ipad-sighting-at-nyc-starbucks-and-make-your-own-paper-ipad/

Memories of making a paper version of the original iMac, some might  
remember me bringing it to a meeting all those years ago. I think I  
still have the paper iPhone I made just after that was announced.

Paul C


From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Mon Feb  8 19:49:12 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:49:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] windows on mac
In-Reply-To: <mailman.687.1265628268.202.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <637474.75426.qm@web86503.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Many thanks to all who gave me some advice.. I think it is all a bit clearer, though I've still got to investigate windows 7.
Valerie

-

From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Mon Feb  8 20:15:44 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:15:44 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <114f2.459b71d7.38a1caf0@aol.com>

I was using Quark4 on Classic on my G4 today and I kept losing the tools  
and for example I'll click on the hand tool and it would perform the rotate  
operation and the standard text box would produce one with a radius. After  
falling over a couple of times, I got fed up and used Quark 5. This was ok 
until  I imported a picture which crashed the machine again. Now every time I 
try to  boot up, all I get is a message saying 'to restart your Mac hold 
down the power  button for a few seconds or use the restart button'.
 
I'm running OSX Panther with Classic 9.2 on this particular Blue/Grey  G4.
 
Any suggestions?
 
 

From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Mon Feb  8 17:57:45 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:57:45 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Windows/Mac
In-Reply-To: <CAA85DC1-7FD8-41B9-BE8C-CC31D9012ACB@virgin.net>
References: <CAA85DC1-7FD8-41B9-BE8C-CC31D9012ACB@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <EF9D9BF9-5792-43C9-8B73-A55739104D7A@btinternet.com>


From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Mon Feb  8 21:00:46 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:00:46 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] windows mac
Message-ID: <D8AC6D3B-78F6-4D3F-975E-7AD00DDFC338@btinternet.com>

sorry about last email -
sent before typing -

tho I am still confused about running windows on my mac
looked at the archive -
maybe re-read 4 or 5 times - heavy sigh.............

Heather

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Mon Feb  8 21:04:25 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:04:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <114f2.459b71d7.38a1caf0@aol.com>
References: <114f2.459b71d7.38a1caf0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9A0C5AEF-4E77-46B3-A5C4-3CA399472101@durrant.co.uk>

That sounds a bit like a kernal panic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/geoffmyers/157902871/

Which is usually a hardware problem at root, although it can be caused  
by corrupt system software. Will it boot successfully off a Panther  
DVD-ROM? If so, an archive/install of the system software might get  
you going again with minimal fuss.

Do make sure you have a back-up of important data as soon as you get  
it running again.

regards,

Paul



On 8 Feb 2010, at 20:15, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

> I was using Quark4 on Classic on my G4 today and I kept losing the  
> tools
> and for example I'll click on the hand tool and it would perform the  
> rotate
> operation and the standard text box would produce one with a radius.  
> After
> falling over a couple of times, I got fed up and used Quark 5. This  
> was ok
> until  I imported a picture which crashed the machine again. Now  
> every time I
> try to  boot up, all I get is a message saying 'to restart your Mac  
> hold
> down the power  button for a few seconds or use the restart button'.
>
> I'm running OSX Panther with Classic 9.2 on this particular Blue/ 
> Grey  G4.


From ricnev at mac.com  Tue Feb  9 12:43:56 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:43:56 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store down
Message-ID: <30689131-93E9-4E03-BB30-D147991D1308@mac.com>

It's Tuesday, the Apple Store's down, so it must be a new product - MacBook Pro?

Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From sc at davidviner.com  Tue Feb  9 12:44:08 2010
From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner)
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:44:08 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store down
In-Reply-To: <30689131-93E9-4E03-BB30-D147991D1308@mac.com>
References: <30689131-93E9-4E03-BB30-D147991D1308@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4B715898.3040802@davidviner.com>

Or a 27" iMac that actually works ;)


Richard Nevill wrote:
> It's Tuesday, the Apple Store's down, so it must be a new product - MacBook Pro?
>
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
>
>
>
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>   

From munkt0n at gmail.com  Tue Feb  9 14:20:45 2010
From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:20:45 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store down
In-Reply-To: <30689131-93E9-4E03-BB30-D147991D1308@mac.com>
References: <30689131-93E9-4E03-BB30-D147991D1308@mac.com>
Message-ID: <ac224bde1002090620k463e74b3kb7312ea1bb429abd@mail.gmail.com>

Aperture 3 has appeared

http://www.apple.com/aperture/

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Richard Nevill <ricnev at mac.com> wrote:
> It's Tuesday, the Apple Store's down, so it must be a new product - MacBook Pro?
>
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
>
>
>
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:wq

From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Tue Feb  9 16:20:35 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:20:35 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <94bc.7d156e0c.38a2e553@aol.com>

 
Paul,
 
Yes it does appear to be the Kernal Panic.
 
I tried starting with shift key down, still with same result.
 
I then tried starting with first Panther disc in and holding down 'C' key - 
 no Joy
 
Next starting with OS 9.2 disc that came with computer when I bought it -  
9.2 screen came up, but was going for a clean install (I'd be perfectly 
happy  running 9.2 on this Mac) it couldn't see the hard drive.
 
Removed the disc to try and start up from Norton to see if I could repair  
anything - nothing apart from a text type message saying to type in mac-boot 
and  hit return - did that and got the Kernal panic screen.
 
Put 9.2 disc back in and only get a clear screen - have tried a few times,  
same result.
 
Do you think the hard drive has gone?
 
Terry

From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Tue Feb  9 16:48:42 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:48:42 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <a3c1.4df0359d.38a2ebea@aol.com>

Paul,
 
Got to Panther disc 1 utilities through starting with Alt key down.
 
Ran first aid which stopped with the message 'The underlying task reported  
failure on exit' and in red on the list 'invalid key length' and 'volume 
check  failed'
 
then 'repair attempted on 1 volume' and '1 volume could not be  repaired'
 
 
HELP please
 
Terry

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Tue Feb  9 20:11:44 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:11:44 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <a3c1.4df0359d.38a2ebea@aol.com>
References: <a3c1.4df0359d.38a2ebea@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0D174F23-EC30-4D2F-8C56-9A181665AE15@durrant.co.uk>

Well, the first question is whether there's any data on the disk that  
you want.

If there isn't, I'd try using the Panther Disk Utility to reformat  
your hard disk.

If there is data you want to recover from that disk, I again recommend  
DiskWarrior.

regards,

Paul

On 9 Feb 2010, at 16:48, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

> Got to Panther disc 1 utilities through starting with Alt key down.
>
> Ran first aid which stopped with the message 'The underlying task  
> reported
> failure on exit' and in red on the list 'invalid key length' and  
> 'volume
> check  failed'
>
> then 'repair attempted on 1 volume' and '1 volume could not be   
> repaired'
>
>
> HELP please


From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk  Tue Feb  9 21:25:19 2010
From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:25:19 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
Message-ID: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>

Thanks to those who advised on this. Price and advisability good so I  
bought locally, Internet? on Roundtree estate.

Anthony


From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com  Wed Feb 10 10:37:59 2010
From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:37:59 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] HP ink
In-Reply-To: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>
References: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>
Message-ID: <adb0e98a1002100237x7e621f61jb5804066b9fce0a0@mail.gmail.com>

Anglian Internet....  v.g.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Anthony Brahams <
anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk> wrote:

> Thanks to those who advised on this. Price and advisability good so I
> bought locally, Internet? on Roundtree estate.
>
> Anthony
>
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to improve your health.

My business works on referrals.
If you like what I do, please tell others.
If not, please tell me.

From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Wed Feb 10 12:31:56 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:31:56 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <24905.77f66b7a.38a4013c@aol.com>

Paul,
 
It becomes ever more strange.
 
As far as I'm concerned the best outcome for me would be to have OS 9.2  
reinstalled on the G4, so I was able to get on to the Panther disc1 via 
holding  down the Alt key and selecting the disc.Using Disc utilities I erased the 
hard  drive. 
 
I then put in the 9.2 disc I have and (I thought) installed 9.2, on the  
restart all I got was a clear light blue screen, tried again a couple of times 
 to no avail, ran first aid on the hard drive and that all looked fine, but 
it  wouldn't boot up to 9.2.
 
Decided to erase and start from scratch of the Panther disc and everything  
appeared to go ok, but still wouldn't boot up.
 
Tried starting up using the alt key with the OS 9 disc in, but when I  
selected the disc, the cursor would disappear leaving the screen with the  
startup disc choice locked up. Tried 2-3 times with same result.
 
Tried with Panther disc and that was ok - so eventually decided to install  
OSX in desperation, got through about 70% of disc one and it said there was 
a  error and to try installing again, which I did but same result.
 
I'm wondering if the hard drive is corrupt despite first aid saying it's  
ok?
 
Am really confused now.
 
Regards
 
Terry
 
 

From david at vanedwards.co.uk  Wed Feb 10 12:57:10 2010
From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:57:10 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Brother laser printer problem perhaps solved
In-Reply-To: <adb0e98a1002100237x7e621f61jb5804066b9fce0a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>
	<adb0e98a1002100237x7e621f61jb5804066b9fce0a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240800c7983e643163@[192.168.1.100]>

Just reporting back on a query I never sent!

Before sending the query below I phoned round a bit. And, after 
unrelenting sales talk from a repair firm Teffont who wanted to sell 
me a new printer, I found a nice man at ETC on the Hellesdon Ind 
Estate who told me that the symptoms showed a failure of the 
electrical charge system. He advised me to take it apart and waggle 
all the wire connections I could see and try again. He said that's 
all a repair firm would do.

I did, and it works again!!

Apparently it could have been the power supply unit in which case no 
economic repair possible.

The moral of the tale appears to be that simple servicing still 
applies even in the most high-tech things. Anyone remember the bird 
shit that stopped the Large Hadron Collider?

Best wishes,

David




>Dear All,
>
>Not very Mac related, or maybe it is.....
>
>Recently our Brother mono laser printer HL1450 has been playing up, 
>missing bands of printing entirely at random. Sometimes whole runs 
>will print perfectly, sometimes a band across the page will appear 
>blank or very faded.
>
>The "toner low" warning lights are usually on.
>
>I've put in a new toner cartridge and recently a new drum but 
>nothing seems to affect it. The only thing that seems to improve the 
>chances of a good print is to remove the toner and shake it from 
>side to side like you are advised to do on putting in a new 
>cartridge. But even that is not foolproof.
>
>When it's good it's very very good though, so I'm reluctant to 
>replace it without a struggle.
>
>It has also been more than usually awkward about accepting a print 
>command from the computer, sometimes printing unstoppable runs of 
>blank pages or sometimes refusing to print at all.
>
>I've installed the latest drivers from the Brother site.
>
>Is this the way printers end, not with a bang but a whimper?
>
>Any ideas welcome. Can one 'service' printers?
>
>Best wishes,
>
>David and Thea
-- 
The Smokehouse,
6 Whitwell Road,
Norwich,  NR1 4HB      
England.

Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk


From sc at davidviner.com  Wed Feb 10 13:04:45 2010
From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:04:45 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Brother laser printer problem perhaps solved
In-Reply-To: <p06240800c7983e643163@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>	<adb0e98a1002100237x7e621f61jb5804066b9fce0a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240800c7983e643163@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <4B72AEED.30802@davidviner.com>

David

That's handy to know. I've got an even older HL1250 that's still doing 
the business. It is regularly used as a bed by one of my cats so is 
probably full of fur!

Oh and congrats on your article in the Advertiser. Your waiting list 
will get even longer now!

David

> Just reporting back on a query I never sent!
>
> Before sending the query below I phoned round a bit. And, after 
> unrelenting sales talk from a repair firm Teffont who wanted to sell 
> me a new printer, I found a nice man at ETC on the Hellesdon Ind 
> Estate who told me that the symptoms showed a failure of the 
> electrical charge system. He advised me to take it apart and waggle 
> all the wire connections I could see and try again. He said that's 
> all a repair firm would do.
>
> I did, and it works again!!
>
> Apparently it could have been the power supply unit in which case no 
> economic repair possible.
>
> The moral of the tale appears to be that simple servicing still 
> applies even in the most high-tech things. Anyone remember the bird 
> shit that stopped the Large Hadron Collider?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>   
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Not very Mac related, or maybe it is.....
>>
>> Recently our Brother mono laser printer HL1450 has been playing up, 
>> missing bands of printing entirely at random. Sometimes whole runs 
>> will print perfectly, sometimes a band across the page will appear 
>> blank or very faded.
>>
>> The "toner low" warning lights are usually on.
>>
>> I've put in a new toner cartridge and recently a new drum but 
>> nothing seems to affect it. The only thing that seems to improve the 
>> chances of a good print is to remove the toner and shake it from 
>> side to side like you are advised to do on putting in a new 
>> cartridge. But even that is not foolproof.
>>
>> When it's good it's very very good though, so I'm reluctant to 
>> replace it without a struggle.
>>
>> It has also been more than usually awkward about accepting a print 
>> command from the computer, sometimes printing unstoppable runs of 
>> blank pages or sometimes refusing to print at all.
>>
>> I've installed the latest drivers from the Brother site.
>>
>> Is this the way printers end, not with a bang but a whimper?
>>
>> Any ideas welcome. Can one 'service' printers?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> David and Thea
>>     

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb 10 14:05:06 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:05:06 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <24905.77f66b7a.38a4013c@aol.com>
References: <24905.77f66b7a.38a4013c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <828630A2-3034-49D6-A9AB-7E6B41183FEF@durrant.co.uk>

When formatting with the Panther disk Utility, do make sure to check  
the "Mac OS 9 drivers" checkbox.

But if that's not the problem, it does sound like the hard disk might  
be faulty. The First Aid bit of Disk Utility just checks directory  
structure - it doesn't check the whole disk to make sure it can all  
read/write correctly.

So my guess now would be that you neeed a new hard disk.

regards,

Paul

On 10 Feb 2010, at 12:31, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

> Paul,
>
> It becomes ever more strange.
>
> As far as I'm concerned the best outcome for me would be to have OS  
> 9.2
> reinstalled on the G4, so I was able to get on to the Panther disc1  
> via
> holding  down the Alt key and selecting the disc.Using Disc  
> utilities I erased the
> hard  drive.
>
> I then put in the 9.2 disc I have and (I thought) installed 9.2, on  
> the
> restart all I got was a clear light blue screen, tried again a  
> couple of times
> to no avail, ran first aid on the hard drive and that all looked  
> fine, but
> it  wouldn't boot up to 9.2.
>
> Decided to erase and start from scratch of the Panther disc and  
> everything
> appeared to go ok, but still wouldn't boot up.
>
> Tried starting up using the alt key with the OS 9 disc in, but when I
> selected the disc, the cursor would disappear leaving the screen  
> with the
> startup disc choice locked up. Tried 2-3 times with same result.
>
> Tried with Panther disc and that was ok - so eventually decided to  
> install
> OSX in desperation, got through about 70% of disc one and it said  
> there was
> a  error and to try installing again, which I did but same result.
>
> I'm wondering if the hard drive is corrupt despite first aid saying  
> it's
> ok?
>
> Am really confused now.
>
> Regards
>
> Terry
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From macman at f2s.com  Wed Feb 10 14:18:21 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:18:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Brother laser printer problem perhaps solved
In-Reply-To: <4B72AEED.30802@davidviner.com>
References: <BF22F428-A8FE-40E8-915F-BD5C41723F0A@themagic.me.uk>	<adb0e98a1002100237x7e621f61jb5804066b9fce0a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240800c7983e643163@[192.168.1.100]>
	<4B72AEED.30802@davidviner.com>
Message-ID: <703B25E6-9BAD-43F1-A515-E3DFDBC892B5@f2s.com>

Same here!

I've got three, all working fine:  great little laser printers....

Robbie


On 10 Feb 2010, at 13:04, David Viner wrote:

David

That's handy to know. I've got an even older HL1250 that's still doing
the business. It is regularly used as a bed by one of my cats so is
probably full of fur!

Oh and congrats on your article in the Advertiser. Your waiting list
will get even longer now!


From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Wed Feb 10 14:32:19 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:32:19 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <2946.34b23b1a.38a41d73@aol.com>

Paul,
 
Thanks, my thoughts to and literally just got off the 'phone to the company 
 (Icex) that I bought it from and they're sending me another hard drive FOC 
 today.
 
Brilliant service this company offers - I first came across them after  
buying a 19" Mac studio monitor off them for ?4.99 + about ?20 delivery from  
Ebay. I then bought a G3 for ?22, which after it arrived had a HD fault. I 
took  it back to them in Witham (near Chelmsford) and they tried to fix it on 
the  spot. They couldn't but said they'd send it and not charge me the 
delivery. It  turned up the next day, but because they couldn't fix it, they sent 
a G4  instead.
 
I've since bought Mac usb keyboards for about a tenner and an eMac for  
sixty quid.
 
They deal mainly with PCs, but are worth a look for Mac stuff.
 
Terry

From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 10 15:09:59 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:09:59 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iPod touch - "Disk Mode"
In-Reply-To: <2946.34b23b1a.38a41d73@aol.com>
References: <2946.34b23b1a.38a41d73@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W32782CBB5F37F3C6BCEF1F9D4F0@phx.gbl>


Hi All,

I would like ?Disk Mode? on my iPod touch to upload/download files via the USB cable (not WiFi). Since the touch does not have native support for disk mode, I believe I have the choice of two products for my Mac to see my iPod:

DiskAid from http://www.digidna.net/products/diskaid

PhoneView from http://ecamm.com/mac/phoneview/issues.html

I get the impression that the latter is a far better product. Does anyone have any experience of these or other similar products?

I assume I?ll just have to pay the $ price on the above sites and hope credit card charges are OK, unless anyone knows of a UK retailer selling them in ??s.

Cheers,
Ferrers

 		 	   		  
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From martinfry.photo at virgin.net  Wed Feb 10 16:45:01 2010
From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:45:01 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] windows mac
In-Reply-To: <D8AC6D3B-78F6-4D3F-975E-7AD00DDFC338@btinternet.com>
References: <D8AC6D3B-78F6-4D3F-975E-7AD00DDFC338@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <B56AD97A-9516-418C-AC06-25FC18296C9F@virgin.net>


Hi Heather

I use a program called virtual PC. There are other programs which have  
been mentioned that do the same thing.

Onto and through these programs you install your chosen windows O/s,   
and then you can play with the dark side

Hope this helps

Hope you are well

Regards

Martin

Martin Fry
www.martinfryphotography.com

>
> tho I am still confused about running windows on my mac
> looked at the archive -
> maybe re-read 4 or 5 times - heavy sigh.............
>
> Heather
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From email at johnstephens.me.uk  Wed Feb 10 20:35:25 2010
From: email at johnstephens.me.uk (John Stephens)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:35:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Dictionaries in Pages
Message-ID: <0B199F0C-6721-48D8-8CBB-4CA37FD12587@johnstephens.me.uk>

Hi there,

I can't seem to change the default dictionary for Pages. I'm using  
iWork '08 and am getting frustrated that it's using an English US  
default dictionary. Perhaps I'm missing something rather obvious, but  
I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to change this?

Everything seems fine in Numbers, I can easily find the dictionary tab  
in the spelling pane, but I can't find anything similar in Pages.

Many thanks

John

From ricnev at mac.com  Wed Feb 10 20:57:09 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:57:09 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Dictionaries in Pages
In-Reply-To: <0B199F0C-6721-48D8-8CBB-4CA37FD12587@johnstephens.me.uk>
References: <0B199F0C-6721-48D8-8CBB-4CA37FD12587@johnstephens.me.uk>
Message-ID: <E356C22D-78DC-4CA8-B4DB-30E56600886E@mac.com>

In Pages '09, the language is set in the paragraph style, via:

Inspector>Text>More>Language


On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:35, John Stephens wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I can't seem to change the default dictionary for Pages. I'm using  
> iWork '08 and am getting frustrated that it's using an English US  
> default dictionary. Perhaps I'm missing something rather obvious, but  
> I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to change this?
> 
> Everything seems fine in Numbers, I can easily find the dictionary tab  
> in the spelling pane, but I can't find anything similar in Pages.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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ricnev at mac.com




From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb 10 21:49:57 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:49:57 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Dictionaries in Pages
In-Reply-To: <E356C22D-78DC-4CA8-B4DB-30E56600886E@mac.com>
References: <0B199F0C-6721-48D8-8CBB-4CA37FD12587@johnstephens.me.uk>
	<E356C22D-78DC-4CA8-B4DB-30E56600886E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F31ABDAD-8CDD-4B3C-9993-474125ED9203@durrant.co.uk>

Richard's quite right, but to elaborate a little:

In Pages you don't choose a default dictionary. Instead you tell pages  
what language the text is in, and it then uses the appropriate  
dictionary when spell-checking.

The default templates might well be set to US English. Create your  
own, and be sure to set the defaults text and styles to be in British  
English.

regards,

Paul


On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:57, Richard Nevill wrote:

> In Pages '09, the language is set in the paragraph style, via:
>
> Inspector>Text>More>Language
>
>
> On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:35, John Stephens wrote:
>
>> I can't seem to change the default dictionary for Pages. I'm using
>> iWork '08 and am getting frustrated that it's using an English US
>> default dictionary. Perhaps I'm missing something rather obvious, but
>> I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know how to change this?
>>
>> Everything seems fine in Numbers, I can easily find the dictionary  
>> tab
>> in the spelling pane, but I can't find anything similar in Pages.
>>


From ricnev at mac.com  Thu Feb 11 10:44:23 2010
From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:44:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Take Control - Running Windows on a Mac
Message-ID: <5239827F-E1A6-441D-9386-53538D26F699@mac.com>

Hi all,

There have been a few discussions on here recently about how to run Windows on a Mac.

Paul D. often reminds us about the excellent 'Take Control' series of eBooks, and one of these is specifically designed to help the uninitiated to do the once unthinkable.

'Take Control of Running Windows on a Mac' has been recently updated to include the latest versions of the various virtual machine programs, and to cater for those wishing to install Windows 7.
A 'Quick Start' section can get you up and running with a minimum of fuss, and the eBook even has a 'why bother?' section to help you find out if you really want/need to run Windows.

http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/news/new-ebook-offers-up-to-date-details-about-windows-on-a-mac

A snip at $10 - if you pick an extra two eBooks from the series you can get a 30% discount.

If this still leaves people unsure about how to get Windows running on their Macs, I might be willing to have my arm twisted to run a tutorial if there is enough demand.


Richard Nevill
ricnev at mac.com




From vivian_wickham at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Feb 11 12:15:34 2010
From: vivian_wickham at tiscali.co.uk (Ian Wickham)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:15:34 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iphoto
Message-ID: <CF03A161-84CD-4783-A3C7-700520E033D8@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi all 

I am looking for a touch of advice, I downloaded a corrupt video clip from my daughter's camera in January, I new there was a problem with the clip but could not delete it,
we have since downloaded our holiday photo's and ever since I have not been able to open iphoto which is a complete pain in the bottom.
Has anyone out there any advice as to what to do next ????? Help.

Ian 


From allanmacam at me.com  Thu Feb 11 13:27:32 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:27:32 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iphoto
In-Reply-To: <CF03A161-84CD-4783-A3C7-700520E033D8@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <CF03A161-84CD-4783-A3C7-700520E033D8@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <533DDEF5-F22F-4039-8445-5165977EF452@me.com>

Have you tried holding alt + cmd keys down when starting iPhoto? You are presented with various choices about how you would like to re-build your iPhoto library.

Allan Johns.

 
On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:15, Ian Wickham wrote:

> Hi all 
> 
> I am looking for a touch of advice, I downloaded a corrupt video clip from my daughter's camera in January, I new there was a problem with the clip but could not delete it,
> we have since downloaded our holiday photo's and ever since I have not been able to open iphoto which is a complete pain in the bottom.
> Has anyone out there any advice as to what to do next ????? Help.
> 
> Ian 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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From vivian_wickham at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Feb 11 16:01:30 2010
From: vivian_wickham at tiscali.co.uk (Ian Wickham)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:01:30 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] iphoto
In-Reply-To: <533DDEF5-F22F-4039-8445-5165977EF452@me.com>
References: <CF03A161-84CD-4783-A3C7-700520E033D8@tiscali.co.uk>
	<533DDEF5-F22F-4039-8445-5165977EF452@me.com>
Message-ID: <7561480B-7F64-441D-B7B6-227914F77E97@tiscali.co.uk>

Thanks Allan, worked a treat .
On 11 Feb 2010, at 13:27, Allan wrote:

> Have you tried holding alt + cmd keys down when starting iPhoto? You are presented with various choices about how you would like to re-build your iPhoto library.
> 
> Allan Johns.
> 
> 
> On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:15, Ian Wickham wrote:
> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> I am looking for a touch of advice, I downloaded a corrupt video clip from my daughter's camera in January, I new there was a problem with the clip but could not delete it,
>> we have since downloaded our holiday photo's and ever since I have not been able to open iphoto which is a complete pain in the bottom.
>> Has anyone out there any advice as to what to do next ????? Help.
>> 
>> Ian 
>> 
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From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Thu Feb 11 17:20:13 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:20:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1265889601.2238.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <805095.11528.qm@web86501.mail.ird.yahoo.com>



--- On Thu, 11/2/10, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk <nmug-request at nmug.org.uk> wrote:
Richard,
I would love a tutorial on putting Windows on to my Mac.  
I do hope you can run one, it would make such a difference,
thanks for thinking about it,
Valerie

 > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:44:23 +0000
> From: Richard Nevill <ricnev at mac.com>
> Subject: [NMUG] Take Control - Running Windows on a Mac
> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <5239827F-E1A6-441D-9386-53538D26F699 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There have been a few discussions on here recently about
> how to run Windows on a Mac.
> 
> Paul D. often reminds us about the excellent 'Take Control'
> series of eBooks, and one of these is specifically designed
> to help the uninitiated to do the once unthinkable.
> 
> 'Take Control of Running Windows on a Mac' has been
> recently updated to include the latest versions of the
> various virtual machine programs, and to cater for those
> wishing to install Windows 7.
> A 'Quick Start' section can get you up and running with a
> minimum of fuss, and the eBook even has a 'why bother?'
> section to help you find out if you really want/need to run
> Windows.
> 
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/news/new-ebook-offers-up-to-date-details-about-windows-on-a-mac
> 
> A snip at $10 - if you pick an extra two eBooks from the
> series you can get a 30% discount.
> 
> If this still leaves people unsure about how to get Windows
> running on their Macs, I might be willing to have my arm
> twisted to run a tutorial if there is enough demand.
> 
> 
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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> 
> End of NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18
> ************************************
> 

From penguinsplj at me.com  Thu Feb 11 20:46:11 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:46:11 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Free Mac Manual
Message-ID: <742B7B0A-A324-4464-92D0-847FA2549880@me.com>

Don't remember anyone mentioning this before but just in case they  
didn't this is a PDF basic manual based on Snow Leopard. May be of use  
to some out there:

<http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/the-incredible-free-manual-for-every-mac-user-pdf/ 
 >

Paul C

From alanbarber at mac.com  Thu Feb 11 21:16:40 2010
From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:40 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
Message-ID: <28EFA50E-C4A6-4CD6-99D3-E2DFB69F6C10@mac.com>

This Saturday Min  and myself will be holding a general meeting of all  
those nmuggers who would  like to attend.
It will be a general problem solving forum with everyone contributing  
to the solution.
The cost of the hall and refreshments will be divided between those  
who turn up.
So the more who come the cheaper it will be.

It is held at St Matthews Church, Telegraph Lane West, Norwich.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

Will those planning to attend please let us know via the list.

Regards

Alan
		


From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com  Fri Feb 12 08:58:01 2010
From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:58:01 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
In-Reply-To: <28EFA50E-C4A6-4CD6-99D3-E2DFB69F6C10@mac.com>
References: <28EFA50E-C4A6-4CD6-99D3-E2DFB69F6C10@mac.com>
Message-ID: <adb0e98a1002120058x4bb7634awa8c048925698bf9f@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Alan

Don't think I can make it as my brother returns to Devon on the 10.30 train
so will need to see them off.  A pity as I'm still keen to learn things
about my Mac.  Am wanting to do a website now but unfortunately missed that
workshop, so please let me know if there are any plans for another!!

Kind regards
Jules



On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Alan Barber <alanbarber at mac.com> wrote:

> This Saturday Min  and myself will be holding a general meeting of all
> those nmuggers who would  like to attend.
> It will be a general problem solving forum with everyone contributing
> to the solution.
> The cost of the hall and refreshments will be divided between those
> who turn up.
> So the more who come the cheaper it will be.
>
> It is held at St Matthews Church, Telegraph Lane West, Norwich.
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
>
> Will those planning to attend please let us know via the list.
>
> Regards
>
> Alan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at:
> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
>



-- 
Jules

CalmClasses & Therapies
to improve your health.

My business works on referrals.
If you like what I do, please tell others.
If not, please tell me.

From email at johnstephens.me.uk  Fri Feb 12 10:44:21 2010
From: email at johnstephens.me.uk (John Stephens)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:44:21 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Thanks - Dictionaries
Message-ID: <EDCF1262-7CB3-4D06-A242-80D1FB6EA971@johnstephens.me.uk>

Just a quick message to say thank you for the help with changing  
dictionaries in Pages

JS



From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Fri Feb 12 14:42:59 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:42:59 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
Message-ID: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>

Hello NMUGers

I remember that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
applecare and I need to get some for my imac -

There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for all  
models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
a) legitimate
2) the right Applecare for my intel imac

many thanks

Heather

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Fri Feb 12 15:12:31 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:12:31 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <21411D5A-681D-4F83-A781-AF364C1C66BF@virgin.net>

Hello,
I have precisely the same question too.

Ken Arnoldi



On 12 Feb 2010, at 02:42 PM, Heather Tamplin  
<h.tamplin at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hello NMUGers
>
> I remember that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
> applecare and I need to get some for my imac -
>
> There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for all
> models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
> a) legitimate
> 2) the right Applecare for my intel imac
>
> many thanks
>
> Heather
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Fri Feb 12 15:45:38 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:45:38 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>

I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last  
September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac  
applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook  
Pro/Mac Pro.)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ110493272897

They send you an email with the code to enter into Apple's web site.

regards,

Paul

On 12 Feb 2010, at 14:42, Heather Tamplin wrote:

> Hello NMUGers
>
> I remember that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
> applecare and I need to get some for my imac -
>
> There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for all
> models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
> a) legitimate
> 2) the right Applecare for my intel imac


From alan at asw6000.plus.com  Fri Feb 12 16:01:55 2010
From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:01:55 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <D27FBAA7-A224-4A97-9AFC-572E2381C6D9@asw6000.plus.com>

Paul 
How do they do it so much cheaper ? & can I use this once my years' gtee from John Lewis expires ?

regards 
Alan
On 12 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Paul Durrant wrote:

> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last  
> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac  
> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook  
> Pro/Mac Pro.)
> 


From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Fri Feb 12 16:05:02 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:05:02 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C1D178C8-2F98-4C76-BBB4-7D745121DBCD@virgin.net>

Thanks Paul,

But being a pessimist (ie an optimist with experience!), do you, when  
received, feed the code to the Applesite, thus confirming Its  
acceptance as genuine, or wait until you need to make use of it?

Ken

On 12 Feb 2010, at 03:45 PM, Paul Durrant <paul at durrant.co.uk> wrote:

> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac
> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ110493272897
>
> They send you an email with the code to enter into Apple's web site.
>
> regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 12 Feb 2010, at 14:42, Heather Tamplin wrote:
>
>> Hello NMUGers
>>
>> I remember that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
>> applecare and I need to get some for my imac -
>>
>> There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for all
>> models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
>> a) legitimate
>> 2) the right Applecare for my intel imac
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Fri Feb 12 16:45:23 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:45:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <C1D178C8-2F98-4C76-BBB4-7D745121DBCD@virgin.net>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
	<C1D178C8-2F98-4C76-BBB4-7D745121DBCD@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <E7DCBC46-9F34-4E25-A68E-638295303AB7@durrant.co.uk>

I rely on the fact that the Apple web site accepted it and gave me a  
proof of coverage certificate.

And yes, it's still showing as covered at the Apple web site.

I've checked coastal-computing's feedback. There are a few (<1%)  
comments that the agreement couldn't be registered, and those people  
got a refund.

I've just phoned Applecare, and said that I'd bought off eBay, and I'd  
heard that there were some fakes around. They confirmed that my  
MacBook Pro is properly covered.

I don't know how much more I can do to confirm that this is  
legitimate. But of course, everyone has to make their own judgement of  
risk.

regards,

Paul

On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:05, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> But being a pessimist (ie an optimist with experience!), do you, when
> received, feed the code to the Applesite, thus confirming Its
> acceptance as genuine, or wait until you need to make use of it?
>
> On 12 Feb 2010, at 03:45 PM, Paul Durrant <paul at durrant.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
>> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac
>> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
>> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ110493272897
>>
>> They send you an email with the code to enter into Apple's web site.
>>
>> On 12 Feb 2010, at 14:42, Heather Tamplin wrote:
>>
>>> Hello NMUGers
>>>
>>> I remember that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
>>> applecare and I need to get some for my imac -
>>>
>>> There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for all
>>> models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
>>> a) legitimate
>>> 2) the right Applecare for my intel imac


From paul at durrant.co.uk  Fri Feb 12 16:47:41 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:47:41 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <D27FBAA7-A224-4A97-9AFC-572E2381C6D9@asw6000.plus.com>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
	<D27FBAA7-A224-4A97-9AFC-572E2381C6D9@asw6000.plus.com>
Message-ID: <466CA7E8-606C-49B8-BCDC-2E197EF32BAB@durrant.co.uk>

My suspicion is the Applecare has a very large discount built-in. For  
example, student discount on hardware is 10-15%. On Applecare it's 75%  
or so.

You can only buy Applecare while you're still inside the original 1- 
year Apple guarantee. (As otherwise they'd have the problem of people  
only buyng Applecare when their machine broke down!)

regards,

Paul

On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:01, Alan Williams wrote:

> Paul
> How do they do it so much cheaper ? & can I use this once my years'  
> gtee from John Lewis expires ?
>
> regards
> Alan
> On 12 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Paul Durrant wrote:
>
>> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
>> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac
>> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
>> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>>


From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Fri Feb 12 19:15:53 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:15:53 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <466CA7E8-606C-49B8-BCDC-2E197EF32BAB@durrant.co.uk>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
	<D27FBAA7-A224-4A97-9AFC-572E2381C6D9@asw6000.plus.com>
	<466CA7E8-606C-49B8-BCDC-2E197EF32BAB@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <399AB9C1-2E40-438D-9819-C18DC8183944@virgin.net>

Thanks again Paul,

My iMac 1 year warranty expires at the end of March but I shall take  
the ?52 plunge tomorrow. Apple at Chapelfield want ?139 for the same!

Ken Arnoldi



On 12 Feb 2010, at 04:47 PM, Paul Durrant <paul at durrant.co.uk> wrote:

> My suspicion is the Applecare has a very large discount built-in. For
> example, student discount on hardware is 10-15%. On Applecare it's 75%
> or so.
>
> You can only buy Applecare while you're still inside the original 1-
> year Apple guarantee. (As otherwise they'd have the problem of people
> only buyng Applecare when their machine broke down!)
>
> regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:01, Alan Williams wrote:
>
>> Paul
>> How do they do it so much cheaper ? & can I use this once my years'
>> gtee from John Lewis expires ?
>>
>> regards
>> Alan
>> On 12 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Paul Durrant wrote:
>>
>>> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
>>> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for  
>>> iMac
>>> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
>>> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Fri Feb 12 19:38:12 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:38:12 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
Message-ID: <BDD09439-BBD5-4632-A0B2-509D955F75C5@virgin.net>

Hello Alan,
I was hoping to come tomorrow, but nobody would want to catch my cold!

So, sorry I won't be there, but hope you have a successful meeting.

Regards,

Celia Arnoldi



From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Fri Feb 12 19:53:28 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:53:28 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <399AB9C1-2E40-438D-9819-C18DC8183944@virgin.net>
References: <A5C26BCC-243C-4D21-804A-CC74A8C42913@btinternet.com>
	<CEE04136-0733-416F-9E79-77684386FE7A@durrant.co.uk>
	<D27FBAA7-A224-4A97-9AFC-572E2381C6D9@asw6000.plus.com>
	<466CA7E8-606C-49B8-BCDC-2E197EF32BAB@durrant.co.uk>
	<399AB9C1-2E40-438D-9819-C18DC8183944@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <3315CA1E-0C3A-4F2C-8FCE-947047B85E73@btinternet.com>

yes many thanks Paul,

I have never been so prepared for something going wrong with the  
computer ...........


Heather



On 12 Feb 2010, at 19:15, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> Thanks again Paul,
>
> My iMac 1 year warranty expires at the end of March but I shall take
> the ?52 plunge tomorrow. Apple at Chapelfield want ?139 for the same!
>
> Ken Arnoldi
>
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2010, at 04:47 PM, Paul Durrant <paul at durrant.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> My suspicion is the Applecare has a very large discount built-in. For
>> example, student discount on hardware is 10-15%. On Applecare it's  
>> 75%
>> or so.
>>
>> You can only buy Applecare while you're still inside the original 1-
>> year Apple guarantee. (As otherwise they'd have the problem of people
>> only buyng Applecare when their machine broke down!)
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:01, Alan Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Paul
>>> How do they do it so much cheaper ? & can I use this once my years'
>>> gtee from John Lewis expires ?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Alan
>>> On 12 Feb 2010, at 15:45, Paul Durrant wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
>>>> September. They have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for
>>>> iMac
>>>> applies to all iMacs. There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
>>>> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug

Heather Tamplin
www.heathertamplin.co.uk





From alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com  Fri Feb 12 21:08:11 2010
From: alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com (Alan Barber)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:08:11 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
Message-ID: <AE4DAF53-68A0-4082-B54C-AE28813EE5A2@ntlworld.com>

As no-one has said they are coming to the meeting tomorrow
its obviously cancelled.


Regards

Alan





From peterforrester at waitrose.com  Sat Feb 13 10:12:37 2010
From: peterforrester at waitrose.com (Peter Forrester)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:12:37 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] loud hooting noise and no screen
Message-ID: <AFC41E19-BAB9-4E40-96F9-58D16C72348F@waitrose.com>

Dear All,

Many thanks for all the advice transmitted to me via David.  I was  
asked to report my experience of John Lewis after-sales.  This seemed  
to be not good, but not too bad either:
Thurs. 4 Feb.  Phoned John Lewis early and was offered a choice  
between a. An engineer visiting on Mon. 8; or b. Bring it in and we  
might be able to fix it in store immediately if the problem is  
simple.  I chose b., but on arrival at the store the fix-it option  
seemed to have evaporated.  It was pointed out to me that I could take  
it to Apple as it was still under Apple's warranty, or leave it with  
John Lewis, but it might take 1 - 2 weeks and they would in any case  
send it to bite systems.  Having parked at JL it seemed most sensible  
to leave it with them, although I was still expecting that the fault  
would be merely a looseness somewhere.  I was promised an immediate  
phone-call upon its return.
Fri. 12 Feb.  Phoned JL to ask about progress.  Nice lady didn't know  
but would find out and ring back.  After about an hour she had tracked  
it down, and said that it was already waiting for me.  Collected pm,  
and everything seems to be still there.
 From the engineering worksheet it seems that bite systems received  
the machine on 4/02/10 but had to order in a part.  There's no date  
for its return to JL.

Bite Systems 'Work carried out':
Ram is faulty, testing which chip is at fault
Ordering replacement chip
Fitted replacement ram chip, tested and passed

Part: 661 - 4985
SDRAM, 1 GB, DDR3 1066 MHz, SO-DIMM

The machine is an Intel Core 2 Duo purchased last July.  It is used  
most days and put to sleep between times.  It is shut down if not  
going to be used for a day or more - as recommended in the  
booklet(?).  On this occasion I had shut it down and removed the  
ethernet cable because a new phone cable to the house was to be  
installed (loud crackling or no sound on the phone, although emails  
were still coming through).  The problem happened as soon as I  
switched it on again but seems to have been just coincidental.

Thanks and best wishes,

Peter

From brian at clearlight.uk.net  Sat Feb 13 10:52:09 2010
From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:52:09 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] applecare
In-Reply-To: <C1D178C8-2F98-4C76-BBB4-7D745121DBCD@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <C79C34D9.32D3D%brian@clearlight.uk.net>

After my experience I will ONLY buy Applecare that includes a box with
serial no - as well as the number that registers it at the Apple site.
I wasted ?50 something on my eBay number. That in part was due to my not
acting quickly enough when it turned out to be stolen - just as Jon at
PCWorld had warned me a couple of days before.
I've wrote all about it here some months ago.
I now have a boxed copy from Jigsaw.
I had previously had many successful eBay applecare experiences - but once
bitten - twice shy.
regards
Brian


Ken Arnoldi said recently:

> Thanks Paul,

But being a pessimist (ie an optimist with experience!), do you,
> when  
received, feed the code to the Applesite, thus confirming Its
> 
acceptance as genuine, or wait until you need to make use of it?

Ken

On 12
> Feb 2010, at 03:45 PM, Paul Durrant <paul at durrant.co.uk> wrote:

> I bought
> Applecare for my MacBook Pro from Coastal_Computing last
> September. They
> have Applecare for iMac for ?52. (Applecare for iMac
> applies to all iMacs.
> There are different packs for MacBook/MacBook
> Pro/Mac Pro.)
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ110493272897
>
> They send you an email with
> the code to enter into Apple's web site.
>
> regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 12 Feb
> 2010, at 14:42, Heather Tamplin wrote:
>
>> Hello NMUGers
>>
>> I remember
> that Ebay was mentioned for cheap
>> applecare and I need to get some for my
> imac -
>>
>> There is some Applecare on Ebay for ?49 that states it is for
> all
>> models of imac including quad but how do I check if it
>> a)
> legitimate
>> 2) the right Applecare for my intel imac
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list
> to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at:
> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
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From turrethouse at talktalk.net  Sat Feb 13 11:38:04 2010
From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:38:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
In-Reply-To: <28EFA50E-C4A6-4CD6-99D3-E2DFB69F6C10@mac.com>
References: <28EFA50E-C4A6-4CD6-99D3-E2DFB69F6C10@mac.com>
Message-ID: <a06240800c79c3f6336f3@[192.168.1.2]>

Sorry I couldn't join you this morning - hope you got a quorum and 
had a useful meeting.   Hugh

>This Saturday Min  and myself will be holding a general meeting of all 
>those nmuggers who would  like to attend.
>It will be a general problem solving forum with everyone contributing 
>to the solution.
>The cost of the hall and refreshments will be divided between those 
>who turn up.
>So the more who come the cheaper it will be.
>
>It is held at St Matthews Church, Telegraph Lane West, Norwich.
>http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
>
>Will those planning to attend please let us know via the list.
>
>Regards
>
>Alan
>
>
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From turrethouse at talktalk.net  Sat Feb 13 11:39:58 2010
From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:58 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Saturday meeting
In-Reply-To: <AE4DAF53-68A0-4082-B54C-AE28813EE5A2@ntlworld.com>
References: <AE4DAF53-68A0-4082-B54C-AE28813EE5A2@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <a06240801c79c3ff057dc@[192.168.1.2]>

So glad I didn't just turn up!  Hugh

>As no-one has said they are coming to the meeting tomorrow
>its obviously cancelled.
>
>
>Regards
>
>Alan
>
>
>
>
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From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Sat Feb 13 13:06:59 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:06:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] john lewis service
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1266062401.41470.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <598075.76226.qm@web86507.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


Interesting to read of your experience Peter.  We have found John Lewis aftercare to be fine - the hard drive failed and it was quickly replaced. Would add that we found the customer service in the large electricals department, cookers etc., to be wonderful.
Valerie
> From: Peter Forrester <peterforrester at waitrose.com>

> 
> Many thanks for all the advice transmitted to me via
> David.? I was? 
> asked to report my experience of John Lewis
> after-sales.? This seemed? 
> to be not good, but not too bad either:
> Thurs. 4 Feb.? Phoned John Lewis early and was offered
> a choice? 
> between a. An engineer visiting on Mon. 8; or b. Bring it
> in and we? 
> might be able to fix it in store immediately if the problem
> is? 
> simple.? I chose b., but on arrival at the store the
> fix-it option? 
> seemed to have evaporated.? It was pointed out to me
> that I could take? 
> it to Apple as it was still under Apple's warranty, or
> leave it with? 
> John Lewis, but it might take 1 - 2 weeks and they would in
> any case? 
> send it to bite systems.? Having parked at JL it
> seemed most sensible? 
> to leave it with them, although I was still expecting that
> the fault? 
> would be merely a looseness somewhere.? I was promised
> an immediate? 
> phone-call upon its return.
> Fri. 12 Feb.? Phoned JL to ask about progress.?
> Nice lady didn't know? 
> but would find out and ring back.? After about an hour
> she had tracked? 
> it down, and said that it was already waiting for me.?
> Collected pm,? 
> and everything seems to be still there.
>  From the engineering worksheet it seems that bite systems
> received? 
> the machine on 4/02/10 but had to order in a part.?
> There's no date? 
> for its return to JL.
> 
> Bite Systems 'Work carried out':
> Ram is faulty, testing which chip is at fault
> Ordering replacement chip
> Fitted replacement ram chip, tested and passed
> 
> Part: 661 - 4985
> SDRAM, 1 GB, DDR3 1066 MHz, SO-DIMM
> 
> The machine is an Intel Core 2 Duo purchased last
> July.? It is used? 
> most days and put to sleep between times.? It is shut
> down if not? 
> going to be used for a day or more - as recommended in
> the? 
> booklet(?).? On this occasion I had shut it down and
> removed the? 
> ethernet cable because a new phone cable to the house was
> to be? 
> installed (loud crackling or no sound on the phone,
> although emails? 
> were still coming through).? The problem happened as
> soon as I? 
> switched it on again but seems to have been just
> coincidental.
> 
> Thanks and best wishes,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
>

From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Sun Feb 14 12:32:31 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:32:31 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Applecare
Message-ID: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>

Hello Paul D and anyone else,
 
I've just bought Applecare for iMac on ebay (?52) and received the code  and instructions.
However, when I go to the given Apple site I get a message  We're sorry our system is not available at this time.
Please try again in a few minutes or return to the Apple Support site.

I have tried several times but get the same message. The vendor's instructions say  "This process could take as short as a few hours, or seven business days, depending on time of year. Please be patient during this time'

Does this sound genuine? I have paid via Pay-Pal.

Ken Arnoldi

From allanmacam at me.com  Sun Feb 14 13:04:56 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:04:56 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Applecare
In-Reply-To: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>
References: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <384DC11A-709E-4385-8CC7-B4CA08414BD9@me.com>

I've just tried checking the registration page and get the same response.

AJ


On 14 Feb 2010, at 12:32, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> Hello Paul D and anyone else,
> 
> I've just bought Applecare for iMac on ebay (?52) and received the code  and instructions.
> However, when I go to the given Apple site I get a message  We're sorry our system is not available at this time.
> Please try again in a few minutes or return to the Apple Support site.
> 
> I have tried several times but get the same message. The vendor's instructions say  "This process could take as short as a few hours, or seven business days, depending on time of year. Please be patient during this time'
> 
> Does this sound genuine? I have paid via Pay-Pal.
> 
> Ken Arnoldi
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From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk  Sun Feb 14 13:07:37 2010
From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:07:37 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Applecare
In-Reply-To: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>
References: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <B61213F2-F639-43CF-9336-E4C3BE914131@shrubberyfarm.co.uk>

Was working about midnight last night!

John

On 14/02/2010, at 12:32, Ken Arnoldi wrote:
> I have tried several times but get the same message. The vendor's instructions say  "This process could take as short as a few hours, or seven business days, depending on time of year. Please be patient during this time'


From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Sun Feb 14 14:34:59 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:34:59 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Applecare
In-Reply-To: <384DC11A-709E-4385-8CC7-B4CA08414BD9@me.com>
References: <F8447C33-FD31-4303-90D2-14EA62D6A563@virgin.net>
	<384DC11A-709E-4385-8CC7-B4CA08414BD9@me.com>
Message-ID: <520C8984-3224-409D-9F75-32DF391C48D8@virgin.net>

Hello again,

Apple site is active again. I have registered and received my certificate of cover which lasts until 30 March 2012, so all seems OK now!

Thanks to paul D

Ken Arnoldi


On 14 Feb 2010, at 13:04, Allan wrote:

> I've just tried checking the registration page and get the same response.
> 
> AJ
> 
> 
> On 14 Feb 2010, at 12:32, Ken Arnoldi wrote:
> 
>> Hello Paul D and anyone else,
>> 
>> I've just bought Applecare for iMac on ebay (?52) and received the code  and instructions.
>> However, when I go to the given Apple site I get a message  We're sorry our system is not available at this time.
>> Please try again in a few minutes or return to the Apple Support site.
>> 
>> I have tried several times but get the same message. The vendor's instructions say  "This process could take as short as a few hours, or seven business days, depending on time of year. Please be patient during this time'
>> 
>> Does this sound genuine? I have paid via Pay-Pal.
>> 
>> Ken Arnoldi
>> _______________________________________________
>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
> 
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From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com  Sun Feb 14 21:08:53 2010
From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:08:53 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Scanner
Message-ID: <B21609C5-853B-4176-9AE5-3989D95D4FBE@ntlworld.com>

Hi, I have a old Artec E+ 48 U but can not find a driver for it, I've searched google.  Has anyone got any ideas please, I did see one write up saying Sane may work with it, but looks like thats is only Tiger.

Kind regards
Kerin 

From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk  Sun Feb 14 22:05:43 2010
From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:05:43 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Scanner
In-Reply-To: <B21609C5-853B-4176-9AE5-3989D95D4FBE@ntlworld.com>
References: <B21609C5-853B-4176-9AE5-3989D95D4FBE@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <4AF4F9F3-64FD-4E16-90F7-95BBF3455953@zen.co.uk>

Vuescan?

Steven Jefferson
steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk



On 14 Feb 2010, at 21:08, Kerin Westgate wrote:

> Hi, I have a old Artec E+ 48 U but can not find a driver for it, I've searched google.  Has anyone got any ideas please, I did see one write up saying Sane may work with it, but looks like thats is only Tiger.
> 
> Kind regards
> Kerin 
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From martinfry.photo at virgin.net  Mon Feb 15 10:55:37 2010
From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:55:37 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast problem?
Message-ID: <0A73C2E5-01A8-48DB-B292-139FB0ABEE7F@virgin.net>

Hi alI

  am trying to burn my latest stock pictures to multiple CD's to send  
to my clients.
  I have burnt my master disk but when I go into Toast to copy it I  
get the message:

"Martin Fry Photography" could not be unmounted. all open files &  
programs on this volume must be closed first

Whatever I do I can't get past this message

What am I doing wrong please?

Martin

Martin Fry
www.martinfryphotography.com




From h.tamplin at btinternet.com  Mon Feb 15 13:07:19 2010
From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:07:19 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Applecare
Message-ID: <BA804365-E527-4A19-A21E-6C9C0DDA932D@btinternet.com>

I have also registered Applecare bought virtually on Ebay
from Coastal Computing in the States

Had slight problem but that was getting date Imac was purchased.

Good to be covered - just in case


Heather Tamplin
www.heathertamplin.co.uk





From gill at cerise.org.uk  Mon Feb 15 21:26:42 2010
From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:26:42 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] renaming Mac hard drive and time machine?
Message-ID: <230A1FA4-9111-4646-9F0C-FAAD9AEDEBA2@cerise.org.uk>


Hi, if I rename my Mac's hard drive, does anyone know what will be the  
effect on Time Machine? Will it back up a duplicate of the whole hard  
drive just 'cos I changed the drive name, or is it smart enough to  
notice that all the subsidiary files and folders are the same? thanks!  
Gill







From davidenglish at mac.com  Tue Feb 16 06:24:48 2010
From: davidenglish at mac.com (David English)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:24:48 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast problem?
In-Reply-To: <12320954320821076767375247083287094214-Webmail@me.com>
References: <12320954320821076767375247083287094214-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <9794662596913895301991099964880570174-Webmail@me.com>

Hi Martin

Don't know if its relevant but when I moved on to Snow Leopard my version 6 of Toast stopped working properly. Had to get version 10. Looked around on the internet and this seemed to be general problem. 

David





From martinfry.photo at virgin.net  Tue Feb 16 09:18:49 2010
From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:18:49 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast problem?
In-Reply-To: <9794662596913895301991099964880570174-Webmail@me.com>
References: <12320954320821076767375247083287094214-Webmail@me.com>
	<9794662596913895301991099964880570174-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <402FDC9A-9CA0-4C32-B319-A2FF14134B41@virgin.net>


Hi David

Only problem is I am still on O/S 10.5.8 and I do this copying every 2  
months or so with no problems before.

Regards

Martin
Martin Fry
www.martinfryphotography.com


>
> Don't know if its relevant but when I moved on to Snow Leopard my  
> version 6 of Toast stopped working properly. Had to get version 10.  
> Looked around on the internet and this seemed to be general problem.
>
> David
>


From ian at igdesign.co.uk  Tue Feb 16 15:30:54 2010
From: ian at igdesign.co.uk (Ian Garrett)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:30:54 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Firefox v3.6 keeps crashing
Message-ID: <DC64C656-6EC0-4E4F-A17D-BDB597761B81@igdesign.co.uk>

Dear All,

Has anyone else had a problem with Firefox v3.6 crashing? It has  
happened repeatedly to me for the last 2 days, for no reason that I  
can identify. I've downloaded and reinstalled it, and it crashed on  
launch. I've tried quitting all other applications and then launching  
Firefox, but it still crashed. I can't see any preferences or anything  
in my Library that I could throw out, so I've gone back to v3.0. Any  
suggestions welcome!

Regards,
Ian

From allanmacam at me.com  Wed Feb 17 02:05:04 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:05:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Sounds of a Mac
Message-ID: <0485747B-DD97-4068-A360-C712E5C3A17B@me.com>

MacFixIt not only have a web page explaining some of the odd noises that may come from a Mac and what they indicate, but also provides links to actual sound samples. Very useful and, if you have never heard them (Yet.) strangely reassuring.

http://thurly.net//eyj

Allan

From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Wed Feb 17 15:41:31 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:41:31 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <7e71.1d505eac.38ad682b@aol.com>

Fitted new hard disc today
 
Initially started on OS9 disc but would not see HD
 
would not fire up on OS9 disc either with Alt key held down nor C  key.
 
Started up on OSX disc, tried to use utilities but couldn't see HD
 
Tried a couple more times, was able to select HD, ran first aid and  
verified disc
 
Still wouldn't see OS9 disc
 
Decided in desperation to install OSX, got some way through disc one,  
hadn't asked for disc 2, screen went blue with counter, then just went grey  
blank and nothing...
 
Help yet again.

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb 17 16:45:02 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:45:02 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <7e71.1d505eac.38ad682b@aol.com>
References: <7e71.1d505eac.38ad682b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FD27AB69-7F78-457A-91E8-E55C0D5A35B3@durrant.co.uk>

It's beginning to look like it might be a more general motherboard  
problem, rather than (just) a disk problem.

I think you might find a hardware test program on one of the Mac OS X  
disks, or perhaps you have TechTools, or something similar?

regards,

Paul

On 17 Feb 2010, at 15:41, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

> Fitted new hard disc today
>
> Initially started on OS9 disc but would not see HD
>
> would not fire up on OS9 disc either with Alt key held down nor C   
> key.
>
> Started up on OSX disc, tried to use utilities but couldn't see HD
>
> Tried a couple more times, was able to select HD, ran first aid and
> verified disc
>
> Still wouldn't see OS9 disc
>
> Decided in desperation to install OSX, got some way through disc one,
> hadn't asked for disc 2, screen went blue with counter, then just  
> went grey
> blank and nothing...
>
> Help yet again.
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
>


From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Wed Feb 17 16:55:58 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:55:58 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <ac88.65648abe.38ad799e@aol.com>

Have sorted it, unplugged computer, pressed power button, removed battery  
from logic board, left for 15 mins, replaced battery and plugged G4 in and 
fired  up.
 
OS9.2 now installed and working.
 
Apparently this process resets something - Hurrah.
 
Terry

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb 17 17:20:57 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:20:57 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <ac88.65648abe.38ad799e@aol.com>
References: <ac88.65648abe.38ad799e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FCE9601F-3219-4E20-8921-16AAFFED349A@durrant.co.uk>

Oh, good news. I'm glad my gloomy suggestion was wrong.

regards,

Paul

On 17 Feb 2010, at 16:55, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

> Have sorted it, unplugged computer, pressed power button, removed  
> battery
> from logic board, left for 15 mins, replaced battery and plugged G4  
> in and
> fired  up.
>
> OS9.2 now installed and working.
>
> Apparently this process resets something - Hurrah.


From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net  Wed Feb 17 19:34:15 2010
From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:34:15 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] AIFF to Mp3
Message-ID: <AECFD11A-17EE-46D5-9B0A-AFD62733B3DF@virgin.net>

Hello,
I wish to convert music files to Mp3.
I feel sure I've done it before using iTunes, Audio Hijack, or Audacity?
But I've forgotten how.
Can anyone advise please?

Ken Arnoldi



From penguinsplj at me.com  Wed Feb 17 19:43:04 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:43:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] AIFF to Mp3
In-Reply-To: <AECFD11A-17EE-46D5-9B0A-AFD62733B3DF@virgin.net>
References: <AECFD11A-17EE-46D5-9B0A-AFD62733B3DF@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <5EFD6343-9AB9-43C0-836D-1E606B1BAA3F@me.com>


On Feb 17, 2010, at 19:34, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> Hello,
> I wish to convert music files to Mp3.
> I feel sure I've done it before using iTunes, Audio Hijack, or  
> Audacity?

You can drop AIFFs into iTunes then select them and convert them from  
the Advanced menu at the top. Be sure to have selected MP3 in the  
Preferences>Import Settings first.

Paul C


From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Thu Feb 18 14:57:44 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:57:44 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <5af2.455210ed.38aeaf68@aol.com>

It would appear that the saga hasn't finished.
 
Fired G4 up today, no problem and installed photoshop which opened up ok,  
restarted as instructed and back to the same problem. Did same battery 
removal  trick and it worked again, installed Quark no problem. I needed to move 
some  fonts across and used a card reader and for some reason this appeared 
to lock up  the Mac. So restarted and same problem again.
 
Obviously next time I get it running I'll leave it so, but in the future we 
 all know something'll happen so It'll get shut down.
 
I've run utilities which says the disc is fine.
 
So any suggestions?

From macman at f2s.com  Thu Feb 18 15:04:00 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:04:00 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <5af2.455210ed.38aeaf68@aol.com>
References: <5af2.455210ed.38aeaf68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5EC8045A-54B5-48F0-9887-FD623480DCDA@f2s.com>

When did you last renew the battery?


On 18 Feb 2010, at 14:57, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

It would appear that the saga hasn't finished.

Fired G4 up today, no problem and installed photoshop which opened up  
ok,
restarted as instructed and back to the same problem. Did same battery
removal  trick and it worked again, installed Quark no problem. I  
needed to move
some  fonts across and used a card reader and for some reason this  
appeared
to lock up  the Mac. So restarted and same problem again.

Obviously next time I get it running I'll leave it so, but in the  
future we
all know something'll happen so It'll get shut down.

I've run utilities which says the disc is fine.

So any suggestions?
_______________________________________________
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Robbie Murray
01603 620749
01603 516175
07882 007667
macman at f2s.com


From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Thu Feb 18 15:07:36 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:07:36 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <6064.38ad3fe9.38aeb1b8@aol.com>

Haven't renewed the battery at all, the computer is secondhand so I've no  
idea as to the age/condition of the battery.
 
I suppose a new one wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
Sometimes the obvious needs pointing out -  thanks.

From macman at f2s.com  Thu Feb 18 15:27:50 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:27:50 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <6064.38ad3fe9.38aeb1b8@aol.com>
References: <6064.38ad3fe9.38aeb1b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E8C58D12-A56E-4870-8E33-BFA19DB13E58@f2s.com>

http://tinyurl.com/ykr6ko3

at Maplin, but cheaper online if you're not in a hurry ....


Robbie



On 18 Feb 2010, at 15:07, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

Haven't renewed the battery at all, the computer is secondhand so I've  
no
idea as to the age/condition of the battery.

I suppose a new one wouldn't be a bad idea.

Sometimes the obvious needs pointing out -  thanks.
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From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 18 15:35:25 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:35:25 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <5af2.455210ed.38aeaf68@aol.com>
References: <5af2.455210ed.38aeaf68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W3604386FA661BDA3F67D039D470@phx.gbl>


I had various errors I could not diagnose on my G3 - not as sever as yours. In desperation, I yanked out one of the memory cards - I'd added 256MB to the supplied 64MB. I didn't know at the time which was which, I had extracted the 256MB and my problems went away.... So I replaced the 256MB with a 512MB card (for less ?'s than the 256MB) and every things been fine since (after recovering corrupted files).  I was thinking, if you have more than one memory card, perhaps you could try running on one card then the other - a long shot I know.

Ferrers

> From: Tgoldensection at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:57:44 -0500
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Big crash
> 
> It would appear that the saga hasn't finished.
>  
> Fired G4 up today, no problem and installed photoshop which opened up ok,  
> restarted as instructed and back to the same problem. Did same battery 
> removal  trick and it worked again, installed Quark no problem. I needed to move 
> some  fonts across and used a card reader and for some reason this appeared 
> to lock up  the Mac. So restarted and same problem again.
>  
> Obviously next time I get it running I'll leave it so, but in the future we 
>  all know something'll happen so It'll get shut down.
>  
> I've run utilities which says the disc is fine.
>  
> So any suggestions?
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From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Thu Feb 18 16:28:26 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:28:26 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <90e3.48cda46a.38aec4aa@aol.com>

Thanks for that, I've just had a fruitless search around Dereham in the  
snow.

From philcharnley at me.com  Thu Feb 18 18:56:22 2010
From: philcharnley at me.com (Phil Charnley)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:56:22 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Airport
In-Reply-To: <84823FC2-7985-4ABE-A0F0-601AE6C9293C@virgin.net>
References: <D3803680-549B-4C56-8EA4-43774DF8C829@me.com>
	<DC5323AB-C1EA-49E0-9543-A65832D0F787@durrant.co.uk>
	<F597F3A3-AE0D-4D26-B323-54A0A3CFBE3D@me.com>
	<84823FC2-7985-4ABE-A0F0-601AE6C9293C@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <4B37EF73-D0FF-4AE1-A70E-ADEA9E5B18D6@me.com>

Thought I'd update you with the problems my MacBook was experiencing.
I took it into John Lewis with just two weeks to run on the in store 2 year warranty. They were as good as gold. Accepted it for repair without hesitation and sent it off to Bitesystems.
A few days later I got a call to say it was back from Bitesystems and ready to collect. It seems they had run some diagnostics and system repairs and the problem was cured. I was sceptical as I had done something similar myself, but collected the MacBook and brought it home. 
Sadly the problem was still there. Recap - the MacBook would "see" and log on to my wifi signal when opened but the reception would drop after a few minutes and the airport card could no longer find a signal. 
So I made an appointment with the genius bar at the Apple Store and spent 20 minutes with an extraordinarily helpful and knowledgeable chap who ran several tests in my presence and not only confirmed that the airport card was malfunctioning but was most apologetic and offered to repair it at cost ie I pay for the new card but they pay for the labour.
I thanked him and went back to JL, this time with a written history. Bitesystems kept the MacBook for over a week and claimed not to be able to replicate the fault but agreed that the described problem was suggestive of a wonky airport card, so replaced it.
I've now had it back for 24 hrs and its working perfectly.
Scores on the doors...
Apple Store 10/10. Could not have been more helpful considering no Applecare warranty
J Lewis 9/10. Point docked for no apology or concern that I had to make several trips, make the effort to find out what the problem was myself and then prove it to the authorised repairers.
Bitesystems 3/10. Think that's on the generous side, too.
Phil

On 24 Jan 2010, at 18:24, Ken Arnoldi wrote:

> Hello Phil,
> I shall be interested to hear how you get on at JL as I have an iMac  
> with their 2 year guarantee,
> 
> Ken Arnoldi
> 
> 
> 
> On 24 Jan 2010, at 06:17 PM, Phil Charnley <philcharnley at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul
>> 
>> Astonishingly I bought it from John Lewis on 13.2.08 so have a two  
>> year warranty with only three weeks left to run. I will take it in  
>> immediately! Is this a record?
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> 
>> On 24 Jan 2010, at 17:25:40, Paul Durrant wrote:
>> 
>>> It sounds like a hardware problem (perhaps heat related). Is it in
>>> warranty?
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jan 2010, at 13:24, Phil Charnley wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is it possible for an airport card to start malfunctioning?
>>>> 
>>>> I have a white intel 13" macbook running SL. Its fitted with an
>>>> Airport Extreme card.
>>>> When I open the MacBook it connects to one of my wifi networks but
>>>> after a couple of minutes the connection is lost and then it won't
>>>> "see" any wifi network. Turning airport off and on does not help and
>>>> neither does re-booting the macbook.
>>>> This has been happening for the last three days.
>>>> Its not the networks as my iPhone still sees them with no problem.
>>> 
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From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Sat Feb 20 11:43:47 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:43:47 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <1dfa9.430fc230.38b124f3@aol.com>

Have replaced logic board battery and Mac fires up to almost completely  
open then I get unimplemented trap error message.
 
Any thoughts
 
Terry

From macman at f2s.com  Sat Feb 20 13:03:44 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:03:44 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
In-Reply-To: <1dfa9.430fc230.38b124f3@aol.com>
References: <1dfa9.430fc230.38b124f3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2F7899BA-E936-435E-B871-F3C4E0778962@f2s.com>

Did you reset the PMU?

You need to find the instructions for you particular machine, as the  
location varies enormously from model to model - search for 'Reset  
PMU' followed by the model in Apple support ....   (or Google it)

Robbie



On 20 Feb 2010, at 11:43, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

Have replaced logic board battery and Mac fires up to almost completely
open then I get unimplemented trap error message.

Any thoughts

Terry
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From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Sat Feb 20 18:57:52 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:57:52 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Big crash
Message-ID: <27966.14d0cfba.38b18ab0@aol.com>

 
I'm now cautiously optimistic, I reset the PMU and although It didn't  
reboot totally, I got a different error message and after rebooting with  
extensions off, I ran disc first aid and eventually after a couple of  hiccoughs 
it's all working fine.

Thanks everyone for all hints and tips.
 
Terry


From penguinsplj at me.com  Sat Feb 20 23:04:49 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:04:49 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] February meeting
Message-ID: <BF687774-7959-46CE-B934-3C43D3CA107B@me.com>

The next meeting will be on the 24th February 2010 that being the
fourth Wednesday of the month. It will be held at The Quebec in a
separate room from the bar and will be from 7.30.

Quebec
93-97 Quebec Road
Norwich
NR1 4HY

Here is a link to a map.

<http://www.ukpubfinder.com/pub/21675>

See you all there

Paul C

From rob at lucking.idps.co.uk  Sun Feb 21 21:06:23 2010
From: rob at lucking.idps.co.uk (Rob Lucking)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:06:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Converting an old Clarisworks file
Message-ID: <A9901ED8-AE2F-4341-BDB0-574BE8D620B0@lucking.idps.co.uk>

Hi all

Could anyone suggest how to open an old Clarisworks file whilst  
retaining the original formatting? I can open the file in TextEdit  
but as it loses the original formatting, the data isn't much use - I  
think the original file was a spreadsheet but it was created such a  
long time ago I can't remember! I've also tried opening in AppleWorks  
but to no avail.

Would be grateful for any thoughts.

All the best

Rob

From thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk  Sun Feb 21 21:28:35 2010
From: thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk (Barry Briggs)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:28:35 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast 6
Message-ID: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>

Hi
I have a copy of Toast6 with Jam that I use on my Power Mac and want to load
it on my new Imac with Snow Leopard
After loading the disc and following the instructions the programme will not
launch. Do you think that I will have to purchase Toast 10 for this new
machine?
Any comments please

Barry 

From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk  Sun Feb 21 21:33:10 2010
From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:33:10 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast 6
In-Reply-To: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>
References: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7426C066-0561-44B2-8A3A-E7B3D34884A1@zen.co.uk>

Fraid So,

Steven Jefferson
steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk



On 21 Feb 2010, at 21:28, Barry Briggs wrote:

> Hi
> I have a copy of Toast6 with Jam that I use on my Power Mac and want to load
> it on my new Imac with Snow Leopard
> After loading the disc and following the instructions the programme will not
> launch. Do you think that I will have to purchase Toast 10 for this new
> machine?
> Any comments please
> 
> Barry 
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From paul at durrant.co.uk  Sun Feb 21 21:38:46 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:38:46 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Converting an old Clarisworks file
In-Reply-To: <A9901ED8-AE2F-4341-BDB0-574BE8D620B0@lucking.idps.co.uk>
References: <A9901ED8-AE2F-4341-BDB0-574BE8D620B0@lucking.idps.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5F2057F3-6864-41AC-9C0A-DE6F43FD54F3@durrant.co.uk>

Send it to me and I'll give it a go. No idea if I'll be successful  
though!

regards,

Paul

On 21 Feb 2010, at 21:06, Rob Lucking wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Could anyone suggest how to open an old Clarisworks file whilst
> retaining the original formatting? I can open the file in TextEdit
> but as it loses the original formatting, the data isn't much use - I
> think the original file was a spreadsheet but it was created such a
> long time ago I can't remember! I've also tried opening in AppleWorks
> but to no avail.


From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb 21 21:51:33 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:51:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Converting an old Clarisworks file
In-Reply-To: <A9901ED8-AE2F-4341-BDB0-574BE8D620B0@lucking.idps.co.uk>
References: <A9901ED8-AE2F-4341-BDB0-574BE8D620B0@lucking.idps.co.uk>
Message-ID: <DA52BCB5-231A-4509-A7CC-6E40D8E7F078@f2s.com>

Have you Googled "clarisworks converter"

What's the file extension?    cwk?

I'm surprised it won't open in Appleworks, since that particular suite  
was originally Appleworks, then Clarisworks, and finally Appleworks  
again with little real change until it was end of lifed.      I have  
several .cwk word processing files from the 90's (probably OS7) which  
open immediately in Appleworks 6 on my Intel iMac running Leopard.

Are you sure it's a spreadsheet?  Could it be a database?   If so, you  
may be able to open or import it into Filemaker Pro, as it's another  
Apple subsidiary.
I have all revisions from 5 through to 10:  if you get stuck and want  
to send me a copy I'll see if I can convert it ....


Robbie







On 21 Feb 2010, at 21:06, Rob Lucking wrote:

Hi all

Could anyone suggest how to open an old Clarisworks file whilst
retaining the original formatting? I can open the file in TextEdit
but as it loses the original formatting, the data isn't much use - I
think the original file was a spreadsheet but it was created such a
long time ago I can't remember! I've also tried opening in AppleWorks
but to no avail.

Would be grateful for any thoughts.

All the best

Rob
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From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com  Sun Feb 21 21:51:04 2010
From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:51:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast 6
In-Reply-To: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>
References: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4EC81731-701E-4BC1-92C1-4A35DA7490D2@ntlworld.com>

Hang on Barry. I had a similar problem a year or so ago. Found the  
answer in the MacForums. It required me to delete something. Can't  
remember what but give me time to find the answer...
Phil



On 21 Feb 2010, at 21:28, Barry Briggs <thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk>  
wrote:

> Hi
> I have a copy of Toast6 with Jam that I use on my Power Mac and want  
> to load
> it on my new Imac with Snow Leopard
> After loading the disc and following the instructions the programme  
> will not
> launch. Do you think that I will have to purchase Toast 10 for this  
> new
> machine?
> Any comments please
>
> Barry
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From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com  Sun Feb 21 22:43:11 2010
From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:43:11 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast 6
In-Reply-To: <4EC81731-701E-4BC1-92C1-4A35DA7490D2@ntlworld.com>
References: <C7A75603.6C2%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>
	<4EC81731-701E-4BC1-92C1-4A35DA7490D2@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <7A892FF0-30DA-4EFA-8B79-3093E0789382@ntlworld.com>

OK Barry. It was actually the Roxio Forums that contained the answer but here is what I had to do.
Go to Library>Quicktime. Is there a component named "XviD_Codec 1.0 alpha.component" in the Quicktime folder?
If so, delete it. Try to launch Toast again.
Worked for me. If it works for you, great.
If not, I recommend trying the Roxio forums to troubleshoot it as they're full of useful advice for things like this. And its got to be better than forking out for a new version.
Phil
PS Can't recall now if it was the iMac's Library or the home folder's Library but check both. Good luck


> 
> On 21 Feb 2010, at 21:28, Barry Briggs <thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk>  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> I have a copy of Toast6 with Jam that I use on my Power Mac and want  
>> to load
>> it on my new Imac with Snow Leopard
>> After loading the disc and following the instructions the programme  
>> will not
>> launch. Do you think that I will have to purchase Toast 10 for this  
>> new
>> machine?
>> Any comments please
>> 
>> Barry
>> _______________________________________________
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From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Tue Feb 23 13:01:07 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:01:07 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Open Office query
Message-ID: <32b2.ab7c327.38b52b93@aol.com>

I just attempted to download OpenOffice only to be totally confused ny the  
vast array of choices.
 
I want a version to run on my eMac with OS10 Tiger, which version do I need 
 please?
 
Terry

From macman at f2s.com  Tue Feb 23 13:16:46 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:16:46 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Open Office query
In-Reply-To: <32b2.ab7c327.38b52b93@aol.com>
References: <32b2.ab7c327.38b52b93@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D8B417A1-741A-44B8-9C30-29DA7F552277@f2s.com>

http://tinyurl.com/2rv4zw

...  but you may also wish to consider NeoOffice as an alternative

http://tinyurl.com/2xosn7


Your choice ....

Robbie



On 23 Feb 2010, at 13:01, Tgoldensection at aol.com wrote:

I just attempted to download OpenOffice only to be totally confused ny  
the
vast array of choices.

I want a version to run on my eMac with OS10 Tiger, which version do I  
need
please?

Terry
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From Tgoldensection at aol.com  Tue Feb 23 13:38:23 2010
From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:38:23 EST
Subject: [NMUG] Open Office query
Message-ID: <3fb0.5ed9737d.38b5344f@aol.com>

Frankly I don't care what it is, as long as it'll open Word.
 
Client has supplied document in Word with pictures, for me to follow as  
reference to design a book.
 
Terry

From alanbarber at mac.com  Wed Feb 24 10:13:13 2010
From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:13:13 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] new member
Message-ID: <65B84143-B562-4BCC-B8F4-AA871766A075@mac.com>

There is a faint possibility that a new member Christine Jefferson may  
come to the meeting tonight.
She has a new ibook and needs lots of help setting it up.
I will be there later as usual.
Thanks

Regards

Alan
		


From richardivers at mac.com  Wed Feb 24 11:56:08 2010
From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:56:08 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Canon MP990
Message-ID: <50C2C093-54EC-4B0A-9177-18EEB707FF1E@mac.com>

Does anyone out there have a Canon Pixma MP990 Multifunctional. I am having a few problems with the scanning side.
>From clicking "Open scanner driver"  to the "Scanner Driver(scan gear) Window" opening it takes up to 45 secs. I have gone from Epson standalone printer and scanner to the pixma partly to upgrade and to get more desk  space.
I am not getting much help from Canon. I have got the latest drivers and the latest software.
Any ideas

Regards 
Richard

From turrethouse at talktalk.net  Wed Feb 24 15:06:38 2010
From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:06:38 +0100
Subject: [NMUG] this evening
Message-ID: <a06240800c7aaf0d0abc1@[192.168.1.2]>

Sorry but I can't make it tonight!
Hugh Morgan

From paul at durrant.co.uk  Wed Feb 24 15:28:50 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:28:50 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] this evening
In-Reply-To: <a06240800c7aaf0d0abc1@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <a06240800c7aaf0d0abc1@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <CC2E8E95-C4F7-46AA-B6E5-DEE49BBBF034@durrant.co.uk>

I will be along tonight. Hope to see you next month!

regards,

Paul

On 24 Feb 2010, at 15:06, hugh morgan wrote:

> Sorry but I can't make it tonight!


From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com  Wed Feb 24 17:30:23 2010
From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:30:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Heavy logs
Message-ID: <60ECB971-B208-4092-835D-CD43C75513E2@ntlworld.com>

I noticed this afternoon that the available space on my HD had dropped  
by about 25GB .
Used Disk Inventory to see where it had gone and saw that there were  
two log files with a combined size of 28GB!
They were in iMac>private>var>log> and entitled
system.log (8.25GB), and
system.log0 (20.12GB).
Interestingly although "kind" for the former is described as "log  
file", for the latter it is described as "MacHacha file". I have not  
used MacHacha recently.
I have moved them to the trash (and run repair permissions from disk  
utility.)
I assume moving to the trash is safe to do? I can vaguely recall this  
having come up before but can't recall the answer.
I need advice please on the next step. Do I recall correctly that it  
is just a question now of keeping an eye on the logs to ensure they do  
not misbehave again?

Thanks,

Phil


From martinfry.photo at virgin.net  Wed Feb 24 18:00:23 2010
From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:00:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Sell G4
Message-ID: <C0C6F696-EAD6-4AD7-8B5A-9E36691217CE@virgin.net>

Hi all

My pal wants to sell his old G4!

Details:

G4 powermac 500 mhz dual cpu.
1 GB Ram
180 GB	Hard drive ?
15" provision E44 Monitor
  keyboard & mouse

He only wants ?60.00 the lot,  Any takers?

Martin

Martin Fry
www.martinfryphotography.com





From macman at f2s.com  Wed Feb 24 18:07:55 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:07:55 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Heavy logs
In-Reply-To: <60ECB971-B208-4092-835D-CD43C75513E2@ntlworld.com>
References: <60ECB971-B208-4092-835D-CD43C75513E2@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <9AB3F301-BD81-478F-A814-276765C7B71C@f2s.com>

I don't know the answer, but can remember a similar problem several  
years ago, which almost rendered my HD unusable. (probably on an iMac  
G5)

Never did work out the cause, but deleted and all was ok.   Touch  
wood, hasn't happened again, certainly not on this Intel machine.

Robbie




On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:30, Phil Charnley wrote:

I noticed this afternoon that the available space on my HD had dropped
by about 25GB .
Used Disk Inventory to see where it had gone and saw that there were
two log files with a combined size of 28GB!
They were in iMac>private>var>log> and entitled
system.log (8.25GB), and
system.log0 (20.12GB).
Interestingly although "kind" for the former is described as "log
file", for the latter it is described as "MacHacha file". I have not
used MacHacha recently.
I have moved them to the trash (and run repair permissions from disk
utility.)
I assume moving to the trash is safe to do? I can vaguely recall this
having come up before but can't recall the answer.
I need advice please on the next step. Do I recall correctly that it
is just a question now of keeping an eye on the logs to ensure they do
not misbehave again?

Thanks,

Phil

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From penguinsplj at me.com  Thu Feb 25 00:28:02 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:28:02 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
Message-ID: <458E9350-E722-46D3-9024-A063AD5F96B7@me.com>

  For those who were following my problem with not being able to cut  
and paste numbers from Firefox into my personal finances Excel  
document I followed the advice given at the meeting and from the  
results I believe that the problem is with Firefox and not Excel after  
all. Things worked on my MacBook Pro but I hadn't realised that the  
Firefox version was different to the one on my iMac even though both  
are updated regularly. My iMac is at 3.5.8 whereas on the MBP it is  
just 1. something. Things also work from within Safari but I don't  
really want to use that if I can help it. I will ask Firefox about it

Paul C

From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 25 01:33:20 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:33:20 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
Message-ID: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>






Now we're getting somewhere....

I just popped onto a test system and copied a line of figures from http://www.moneyextra.com/stocks/popular/ using Firefox 3.5.5 and pasted them into an Excel spreadsheet, and to my horror, all the figures went into a single cell!

So I retried using Safari 4.0.4 and all worked as expected.

Firefox 3.5.7 also went into a single cell.

Firefox 3.0.16 is OK though...

So I guess Excel was objecting to pasting so much data into a single cell.

I wonder what Firefox 3.6 would do, if its not crashing?

Ferrers



> From: penguinsplj at me.com
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:28:02 +0000
> Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
> 
>   For those who were following my problem with not being able to cut  
> and paste numbers from Firefox into my personal finances Excel  
> document I followed the advice given at the meeting and from the  
> results I believe that the problem is with Firefox and not Excel after  
> all. Things worked on my MacBook Pro but I hadn't realised that the  
> Firefox version was different to the one on my iMac even though both  
> are updated regularly. My iMac is at 3.5.8 whereas on the MBP it is  
> just 1. something. Things also work from within Safari but I don't  
> really want to use that if I can help it. I will ask Firefox about it
> 
> Paul C
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From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 25 04:20:11 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:20:11 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W1686A8BEDF84EC37643A239D400@phx.gbl>


Couldn't sleep.... just had to try Firefox 3.6, so I did, and that is no better....

That'll learn yer all, to keep upgrading... (as they say in these parts)

The 3.6 Fox seems OK to me, this Hotmail message is being sent from it....

Now I'll be able to grab some ZZZZZZzzzzzz......

> From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:33:20 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
> 
> 
> Now we're getting somewhere....
> 
> I just popped onto a test system and copied a line of figures from http://www.moneyextra.com/stocks/popular/ using Firefox 3.5.5 and pasted them into an Excel spreadsheet, and to my horror, all the figures went into a single cell!
> 
> So I retried using Safari 4.0.4 and all worked as expected.
> 
> Firefox 3.5.7 also went into a single cell.
> 
> Firefox 3.0.16 is OK though...
> 
> So I guess Excel was objecting to pasting so much data into a single cell.
> 
> I wonder what Firefox 3.6 would do, if its not crashing?
> 
> Ferrers
> 
> 
> 
> > From: penguinsplj at me.com
> > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:28:02 +0000
> > Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
> > 
> >   For those who were following my problem with not being able to cut  
> > and paste numbers from Firefox into my personal finances Excel  
> > document I followed the advice given at the meeting and from the  
> > results I believe that the problem is with Firefox and not Excel after  
> > all. Things worked on my MacBook Pro but I hadn't realised that the  
> > Firefox version was different to the one on my iMac even though both  
> > are updated regularly. My iMac is at 3.5.8 whereas on the MBP it is  
> > just 1. something. Things also work from within Safari but I don't  
> > really want to use that if I can help it. I will ask Firefox about it
> > 
> > Paul C
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From penguinsplj at me.com  Thu Feb 25 09:51:36 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:51:36 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>


On Feb 25, 2010, at 01:33, Ferrers Young wrote:

> I just popped onto a test system and copied a line of figures from http://www.moneyextra.com/stocks/popular/ 
>  using Firefox 3.5.5 and pasted them into an Excel spreadsheet, and  
> to my horror, all the figures went into a single cell!
> So I retried using Safari 4.0.4 and all worked as expected.
> Firefox 3.5.7 also went into a single cell.
> Firefox 3.0.16 is OK though...
> So I guess Excel was objecting to pasting so much data into a single  
> cell.
> I wonder what Firefox 3.6 would do, if its not crashing?

You seemed to be experiencing a further problem with the more up to  
date Firefox as I was only trying to cut and paste small amounts of  
data at a time as in a single share price e.g. 310.90 so it cannot  
have been an overload of data. I did a search on the computer and  
found I had an earlier version of Firefox (2.0.0.12) and that seemed  
to work fine however it didn't seem to pick up all the multitude of  
settings I had for my various websites so I would have to import all  
passwords etc. again. It also seems to have found a much earlier  
bookmarks list so dozens of new ones are missing as well. I've gone  
back to my usual version to make sure all settings were still there  
and just for the hell of it I updated to Firefox 3.6 but the original  
problem was still there, oh well.

I will continue to manually transfer the figures each Friday for the  
moment but last night I did send a query about it to the Firefox forum  
to see if they can come up with a solution.

Thank you for trying and all the suggestions and I will keep you  
posted of any developments.

Paul C


From minkennison at mac.com  Thu Feb 25 10:24:25 2010
From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:24:25 +0100
Subject: [NMUG] Take Control - Running Windows on a Mac
In-Reply-To: <5239827F-E1A6-441D-9386-53538D26F699@mac.com>
References: <5239827F-E1A6-441D-9386-53538D26F699@mac.com>
Message-ID: <18D683BC-6EB7-434A-8BE1-E39D34C2CC1C@mac.com>

Hi Richard 

I certainly would be interested in using windows on the mac properly - even if I hardly would ever use it

Min
On 11 Feb 2010, at 11:4411 Feb 2010, Richard Nevill wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> There have been a few discussions on here recently about how to run Windows on a Mac.
> 
> Paul D. often reminds us about the excellent 'Take Control' series of eBooks, and one of these is specifically designed to help the uninitiated to do the once unthinkable.
> 
> 'Take Control of Running Windows on a Mac' has been recently updated to include the latest versions of the various virtual machine programs, and to cater for those wishing to install Windows 7.
> A 'Quick Start' section can get you up and running with a minimum of fuss, and the eBook even has a 'why bother?' section to help you find out if you really want/need to run Windows.
> 
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/news/new-ebook-offers-up-to-date-details-about-windows-on-a-mac
> 
> A snip at $10 - if you pick an extra two eBooks from the series you can get a 30% discount.
> 
> If this still leaves people unsure about how to get Windows running on their Macs, I might be willing to have my arm twisted to run a tutorial if there is enough demand.
> 
> 
> Richard Nevill
> ricnev at mac.com
> 
> 
> 
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From penguinsplj at me.com  Thu Feb 25 10:35:57 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:35:57 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
	<F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>
Message-ID: <3765CDC6-DF34-4280-9A05-542890E522A0@me.com>

Update:

I went back to the Firefox forum area to see if there was a response  
and came across a similar query from someone else (I did do a search  
yesterday but obviously didn't use the right key words). The topic had  
been stopped as Firefox had deemed that a solution had been found.  
This was it:

"You'll need to right click and choose paste special in Excel, in the  
dialog box for paste special select Unicode text."

Right clicking is no problem but this extra movement of the mouse and  
choosing a different option every time you want to paste doesn't seem  
to me to be a very good answer to the problem. OK, so it's not as bad  
as having to hand type every entry but it is still a few more things  
to do each pasting than it used to be. Safari doesn't have this  
problem however I just tested  Chrome and that also cannot direct  
paste to Excel. What are they trying to achieve by stopping this very  
simple and useful copy and paste?

Paul C

From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk  Thu Feb 25 16:16:56 2010
From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:16:56 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Connection problems
Message-ID: <3411F5C9-7A6A-430A-B80B-70594216B83F@mendelsohn.me.uk>

Hi


We are having severe problems connecting to the internet since returning from holiday yesterday - unable to download emails, connection keeps dropping - did that 10 times today.

I have been on to Belkin and we have reset the router.
I have been onto our ISP (three times) - at the moment we have a very low connection speed.

They suggested we plug the router into the BT socket coming into the house and if that doesn't change matters to try a different router. If nothing changes then get back onto them - it might be a line problem in the house.

Is there anyone on NMUG who could assist us - either by lending us another router to try (we live in Poringland) or talking us through problems. If somebody could phone us it would be helpful as we have been unable to restart receiving emails from NMUG since returning from holiday.

Our phone number is: 01508 492533.

Many thanks

Phyll and Ed


From tom at tomkershaw.com  Thu Feb 25 16:39:05 2010
From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:39:05 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Connection problems
In-Reply-To: <3411F5C9-7A6A-430A-B80B-70594216B83F@mendelsohn.me.uk>
References: <3411F5C9-7A6A-430A-B80B-70594216B83F@mendelsohn.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4B86A7A9.2080703@tomkershaw.com>

Just tried calling but got the answering machine so I suppose you 
already have some advice. You may need to use the 
'bt_test at startup_domain' username with no password to re-set your 
connection. I'd be surprised if there was a hardware problem with the 
router. Otherwise you may have a problem with BT rather than your ISP, 
it depends...

Tom.



Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> We are having severe problems connecting to the internet since returning from holiday yesterday - unable to download emails, connection keeps dropping - did that 10 times today.
>
> I have been on to Belkin and we have reset the router.
> I have been onto our ISP (three times) - at the moment we have a very low connection speed.
>
> They suggested we plug the router into the BT socket coming into the house and if that doesn't change matters to try a different router. If nothing changes then get back onto them - it might be a line problem in the house.
>
> Is there anyone on NMUG who could assist us - either by lending us another router to try (we live in Poringland) or talking us through problems. If somebody could phone us it would be helpful as we have been unable to restart receiving emails from NMUG since returning from holiday.
>
> Our phone number is: 01508 492533.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Phyll and Ed
>
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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Thu Feb 25 21:12:07 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:12:07 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Growl
Message-ID: <A226EF01-EBE9-4943-8954-D8BB272F7E7A@virgin.net>

Every time I start up my new iMac, I get the message
'Growl installation recommended'
What is that?

Nathan

From macman at f2s.com  Thu Feb 25 21:24:44 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:24:44 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Growl
In-Reply-To: <A226EF01-EBE9-4943-8954-D8BB272F7E7A@virgin.net>
References: <A226EF01-EBE9-4943-8954-D8BB272F7E7A@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <821EB1EE-F8FF-4D75-BE62-BF3727E6AEBD@f2s.com>

A very handy little bit of (free) software!

"When you're working on your Mac, sometimes things happen in the  
background that you would like to keep track of while working in  
another application. Growl works with hundreds of popular Mac apps to  
notify you of specific tasks like when a download is complete or when  
your CD burning project is finished."

http://growl.info/

Robbie



On 25 Feb 2010, at 21:12, Nathan Crosby wrote:

Every time I start up my new iMac, I get the message
'Growl installation recommended'
What is that?

Nathan
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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Thu Feb 25 21:30:33 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:30:33 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Growl
In-Reply-To: <821EB1EE-F8FF-4D75-BE62-BF3727E6AEBD@f2s.com>
References: <A226EF01-EBE9-4943-8954-D8BB272F7E7A@virgin.net>
	<821EB1EE-F8FF-4D75-BE62-BF3727E6AEBD@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <013D5216-07B3-4739-9726-C8CD32273827@virgin.net>

Thanks Robbie. Sounds as if I am not multi tasking enough to need that.

regards

Nathan


On 25 Feb 2010, at 21:24, Robbie Murray wrote:

> A very handy little bit of (free) software!
> 
> "When you're working on your Mac, sometimes things happen in the  
> background that you would like to keep track of while working in  
> another application. Growl works with hundreds of popular Mac apps to  
> notify you of specific tasks like when a download is complete or when  
> your CD burning project is finished."
> 
> http://growl.info/
> 
> Robbie
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Feb 2010, at 21:12, Nathan Crosby wrote:
> 
> Every time I start up my new iMac, I get the message
> 'Growl installation recommended'
> What is that?
> 
> Nathan
> _______________________________________________


From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 26 14:36:29 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:36:29 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <3765CDC6-DF34-4280-9A05-542890E522A0@me.com>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>,
	<F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>,
	<3765CDC6-DF34-4280-9A05-542890E522A0@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W9504108137B587478AF3B9D3F0@phx.gbl>


We appear to have two issues here:

1.    You seem to have a problem with Excel not being able to copy a number from Firefox 3.5 upwards, to Excel with Cmd+V. I have always been able to copy a singe number into a cell with Cmd+V, using Firefox 3.5.5, 3.5.7 & 3.6 .

2.    Firefox 3.5 upwards has unfortunately introduced a feature (for me anyway) that when copying multiple numbers from a table, Cmd+V pastes the whole lot into a single cell. The way round this is the ?Paste Special...?? thanks for finding that. It also seems to be a workaround for your issue 1.

Perhaps if you try copy and paste in your new user, you may get what you want: copying a single number with Cmd+V.

Some curious findings:

Firefox 3.6: after copying multiple items, ?Paste Special...? in Excel gives me three options: HTML, Unicode Text and Text. HTML gives the same result as Cmd+V (all items in a single cell) while the other two options give me what I want - items in separate cells.

Firefox 3.0.16: after copying multiple items, ?Paste Special...? in Excel gives me just two options: Unicode Text and Text. Both options give me what I want items - in separate cells.

Safari 4.0.4: after copying multiple items, ?Paste Special...? in Excel also gives me just two options: Unicode Text and Text. Unicode Text, gives me what I want items - in separate cells. Text, puts items in separate cells, but in a single column, regardless of original layout.

Ferrers

> From: penguinsplj at me.com
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:35:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
> 
> Update:
> 
> I went back to the Firefox forum area to see if there was a response  
> and came across a similar query from someone else (I did do a search  
> yesterday but obviously didn't use the right key words). The topic had  
> been stopped as Firefox had deemed that a solution had been found.  
> This was it:
> 
> "You'll need to right click and choose paste special in Excel, in the  
> dialog box for paste special select Unicode text."
> 
> Right clicking is no problem but this extra movement of the mouse and  
> choosing a different option every time you want to paste doesn't seem  
> to me to be a very good answer to the problem. OK, so it's not as bad  
> as having to hand type every entry but it is still a few more things  
> to do each pasting than it used to be. Safari doesn't have this  
> problem however I just tested  Chrome and that also cannot direct  
> paste to Excel. What are they trying to achieve by stopping this very  
> simple and useful copy and paste?
> 
> Paul C
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From thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk  Fri Feb 26 15:19:17 2010
From: thebriggs at netmatters.co.uk (Barry Briggs)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:19:17 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Toast 6
In-Reply-To: <7A892FF0-30DA-4EFA-8B79-3093E0789382@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <C7AD96F5.7C3%thebriggs@netmatters.co.uk>

Phil
Thanks for your time
Nothing in Library but will keep searching for a solution
Barry






From penguinsplj at me.com  Fri Feb 26 15:39:51 2010
From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:39:51 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W9504108137B587478AF3B9D3F0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>
	<F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>
	<3765CDC6-DF34-4280-9A05-542890E522A0@me.com>
	<SNT128-W9504108137B587478AF3B9D3F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <59F474B3-D152-450A-89F9-501764315744@me.com>


On Feb 26, 2010, at 14:36, Ferrers Young wrote:

> Perhaps if you try copy and paste in your new user, you may get what  
> you want: copying a single number with Cmd+V.


That was what you suggested on Wednesday night and was the first thing  
I tried when I got home but it didn't work. I think the one definite  
is that Firefox changed something when they did an update about eight  
months ago (judging by the queries on their site) and nothing has been  
done to properly fix it. I was reluctant to move my main browser to  
Safari as I use a number of financial sites and all the user names and  
passwords are remembered in Firefox and I would have to re-input them  
all but I have a feeling that I will be doing that now.

Thank you for all the time and effort you put in to my problem.

Paul C

From ferrers_young at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 26 16:09:54 2010
From: ferrers_young at hotmail.com (Ferrers Young)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:09:54 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
In-Reply-To: <59F474B3-D152-450A-89F9-501764315744@me.com>
References: <SNT128-W15F948B05557136CE4C7DC9D400@phx.gbl>,
	<F74CDBEB-9B21-419F-AD9A-F5BCFB61703B@me.com>,
	<3765CDC6-DF34-4280-9A05-542890E522A0@me.com>,
	<SNT128-W9504108137B587478AF3B9D3F0@phx.gbl>,
	<59F474B3-D152-450A-89F9-501764315744@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W52CCB942786E3D01CA12579D3F0@phx.gbl>


Oh, I hadn't appreciated that, that's very wierd.....

Yes, I like Firefox too, but the one critisism I have of Firefox, is that the saved passwords are viewable - Firefox > Preferences.... > Security [Tab] > Saved Passwords > Show Passwords. Even with Filevault, only your user data is encrypted, applications and I guess Firefox passwords would not be. I would think keychain as used by Safari would be more secure.

I see that Firefox 3.0.18 was released on 17th Feb 2010, so that's another way to go, it's just that 3.5+ is meant to be quicker.  If you can't find a copy of 3.0.18 to download, I can bring along a copy of 3.0.16 (15/12/09 vintage) that we know is OK, to the March meeting.  You could then try the upgrade to 3.0.18

Ferrers

> From: penguinsplj at me.com
> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:39:51 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NMUG] My Excel problem, possibly solved....ish
> 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2010, at 14:36, Ferrers Young wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps if you try copy and paste in your new user, you may get what  
> > you want: copying a single number with Cmd+V.
> 
> 
> That was what you suggested on Wednesday night and was the first thing  
> I tried when I got home but it didn't work. I think the one definite  
> is that Firefox changed something when they did an update about eight  
> months ago (judging by the queries on their site) and nothing has been  
> done to properly fix it. I was reluctant to move my main browser to  
> Safari as I use a number of financial sites and all the user names and  
> passwords are remembered in Firefox and I would have to re-input them  
> all but I have a feeling that I will be doing that now.
> 
> Thank you for all the time and effort you put in to my problem.
> 
> Paul C
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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Sat Feb 27 14:51:54 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:51:54 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
Message-ID: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>

I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while  
letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.

Any suggestions please?

Nathan


From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk  Sat Feb 27 15:07:34 2010
From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:07:34 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
Message-ID: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831@zen.co.uk>

Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?

I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.

IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library. Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.

Too much to go into here but.......
 
Steven Jefferson
steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk




From tom at tomkershaw.com  Sat Feb 27 15:38:55 2010
From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:38:55 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <4B893C8F.8000404@tomkershaw.com>

Nathan,

I'd recommend a Hewlett Packard model. You should be able to get a 600 
DPI unit for around ?100. Not as good as 1200 DPI but depends on your 
budget.

Try Jigsaw systems. www.jigsaw24.com

Tom

nathan crosby wrote:
> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while  
> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>
> Any suggestions please?
>
> Nathan
>
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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Sat Feb 27 15:47:23 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:47:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <4B893C8F.8000404@tomkershaw.com>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
	<4B893C8F.8000404@tomkershaw.com>
Message-ID: <0766717D-C334-4FF8-A98D-4B449B185E25@virgin.net>

Thanks Tom, i'll check that out.

Nathan


On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:38, Tom Kershaw wrote:

> Nathan,
>
> I'd recommend a Hewlett Packard model. You should be able to get a 600
> DPI unit for around ?100. Not as good as 1200 DPI but depends on your
> budget.
>
> Try Jigsaw systems. www.jigsaw24.com
>
> Tom
>
> nathan crosby wrote:
>> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
>> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
>> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>>
>> Any suggestions please?
>>
>> Nathan
>>
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From macman at f2s.com  Sat Feb 27 17:47:12 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:47:12 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <E22DD7DA-D7BD-417F-824B-479F58B8FC41@f2s.com>

I have had several incarnations of Brother's simple bottom end mono  
laser - 5 in all, with the oldest (in daily use) about 10 years old,  
the newest about 5, and unlike HP and Epson,  have never had a problem  
with any one of them - totally reliable.

They are inexpensive to buy and cheap to run with a wide choice of  
compatible cartridges by Mail Order (even the Brother ones are fairly  
cheap)
For low volume, I wouldn't consider anything else.

The latest versions are HL 2035, 2140, 2150 with a network card, and  
2170 with wireless, and are available from all the usual suspects -  
Misco, eBuyer, Dabs, Printerland, Printerbase and Amazon .....

Hope this helps


Robbie



On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:51, nathan crosby wrote:

I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.

Any suggestions please?

Nathan

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From sc at davidviner.com  Sat Feb 27 18:23:26 2010
From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:23:26 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <E22DD7DA-D7BD-417F-824B-479F58B8FC41@f2s.com>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
	<E22DD7DA-D7BD-417F-824B-479F58B8FC41@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <4B89631E.7030007@davidviner.com>

Seconded! I've had a Brother HL1250 since around 2002 and - despite the 
fact that it often gets used by one of my cats as a bed! - is still 
going strong. I have used 3 Epsons in the past and all broke down in one 
way or another. I wouldn't touch Epson with a barge pole nowadays. I've 
not had any real problems with HP printers though the cartridges are 
expensive.

As a sort of related footnote, my mother bought a Brother sewing machine 
way back in the 1960s - it came with a 25-year guarantee that she made 
use of once during that period. It's still working, though I did fix the 
frayed wire connection to the foot pedal about 10 years ago.

David


Robbie Murray wrote:
> I have had several incarnations of Brother's simple bottom end mono  
> laser - 5 in all, with the oldest (in daily use) about 10 years old,  
> the newest about 5, and unlike HP and Epson,  have never had a problem  
> with any one of them - totally reliable.
>
> They are inexpensive to buy and cheap to run with a wide choice of  
> compatible cartridges by Mail Order (even the Brother ones are fairly  
> cheap)
> For low volume, I wouldn't consider anything else.
>
> The latest versions are HL 2035, 2140, 2150 with a network card, and  
> 2170 with wireless, and are available from all the usual suspects -  
> Misco, eBuyer, Dabs, Printerland, Printerbase and Amazon .....
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
> On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:51, nathan crosby wrote:
>
> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>
> Any suggestions please?
>
> Nathan
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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> 01603 516175
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> macman at f2s.com
>
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From paul at durrant.co.uk  Sat Feb 27 20:57:19 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:57:19 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <798605EC-F80E-4716-ACAF-613745A4EDA0@durrant.co.uk>

I recommend a Samsung. I bought my son the ML2851ND when he went off  
to University in September 2008. He's just replaced the cartridge for  
the first time! The printer cost me ?110.45 including p&p & VAT back  
then. It has USB /and/ ethernet connections, Postscript emulation, has  
built-in duplexing, and the only consumable is the combined toner/drum.

I couldn't find it that cheap now, but I did find it for ?137.84:

http://www.saverstore.com/product/20029326/7725665/Samsung-ML-2851NDR-SEE-ML-2851NDR-Mono--A4--Laser-Printer--Based-ModelNetworkedDuplex--

I think the current model is caled the ML-2855ND, but it's just the  
same, with a little more memory. The Samsung has stood up to 18 months  
use by a student, so I think it's fairly sturdy. It's also small (for  
a laser) and not too noisy.

regards,

Paul

On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:51, nathan crosby wrote:

> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>
> Any suggestions please?


From paul at durrant.co.uk  Sat Feb 27 21:06:39 2010
From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:06:39 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <798605EC-F80E-4716-ACAF-613745A4EDA0@durrant.co.uk>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
	<798605EC-F80E-4716-ACAF-613745A4EDA0@durrant.co.uk>
Message-ID: <39A751F7-23C1-4448-8006-FE1943A68151@durrant.co.uk>


On 27 Feb 2010, at 20:57, Paul Durrant wrote:
>
> I think the current model is caled the ML-2855ND, but it's just the
> same, with a little more memory.

And having checked, if you're buying for a company, I'd recommend  
buying this model, as it currently comes with a free extra paper input  
tray, and a three year warrenty. Sadly, special offer is not open to  
individuals.

http://www.printerland.co.uk/acatalog/samsung_ml2855.html

regards,

Paul


From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk  Sun Feb 28 10:33:53 2010
From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:33:53 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Connection Problems
Message-ID: <BBF51C84-34E4-4CF6-9EE5-3BA2A2C41164@mendelsohn.me.uk>

Hi Paul.

Thank you so much for your phone help the other day. Really appreciated.

By a process of elimination we finally isolated the problem to the Belkin Surge Protector. Whenever the router was plugged into the surge protector, our connection continually kept dropping. We have now plugged the router straight into a telephone socket (not the main one coming into the house) and have not encountered any further difficulty. 

Thanks again

Phyll and Ed



From macman at f2s.com  Sun Feb 28 10:48:52 2010
From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:48:52 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Connection Problems
In-Reply-To: <BBF51C84-34E4-4CF6-9EE5-3BA2A2C41164@mendelsohn.me.uk>
References: <BBF51C84-34E4-4CF6-9EE5-3BA2A2C41164@mendelsohn.me.uk>
Message-ID: <1AD36FB2-395F-4D59-8921-36DFBA27C68B@f2s.com>

Belkin surge protectors have a lifetime guarantee - if it's faulty  
they'll replace it.

http://tinyurl.com/ychjthe

Robbie


On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:33, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote:

Hi Paul.

Thank you so much for your phone help the other day. Really appreciated.

By a process of elimination we finally isolated the problem to the  
Belkin Surge Protector. Whenever the router was plugged into the surge  
protector, our connection continually kept dropping. We have now  
plugged the router straight into a telephone socket (not the main one  
coming into the house) and have not encountered any further difficulty.

Thanks again

Phyll and Ed


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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Sun Feb 28 12:30:17 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:30:17 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <E22DD7DA-D7BD-417F-824B-479F58B8FC41@f2s.com>
References: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2@virgin.net>
	<E22DD7DA-D7BD-417F-824B-479F58B8FC41@f2s.com>
Message-ID: <CE50C610-9F8F-4D92-85D2-6D8F9156ED5D@virgin.net>

Thank you all for your suggestions.
I'm getting enthusiastic.

Nathan


On 27 Feb 2010, at 17:47, Robbie Murray wrote:

> I have had several incarnations of Brother's simple bottom end mono
> laser - 5 in all, with the oldest (in daily use) about 10 years old,
> the newest about 5, and unlike HP and Epson,  have never had a problem
> with any one of them - totally reliable.
>
> They are inexpensive to buy and cheap to run with a wide choice of
> compatible cartridges by Mail Order (even the Brother ones are fairly
> cheap)
> For low volume, I wouldn't consider anything else.
>
> The latest versions are HL 2035, 2140, 2150 with a network card, and
> 2170 with wireless, and are available from all the usual suspects -
> Misco, eBuyer, Dabs, Printerland, Printerbase and Amazon .....
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
> On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:51, nathan crosby wrote:
>
> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>
> Any suggestions please?
>
> Nathan
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug
>
>
> Robbie Murray
> 01603 620749
> 01603 516175
> 07882 007667
> macman at f2s.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk
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From nathan.crosby at virgin.net  Sun Feb 28 13:13:00 2010
From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:13:00 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
In-Reply-To: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831@zen.co.uk>
References: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831@zen.co.uk>
Message-ID: <E428BF65-8D18-4363-8EEC-8159BF7E6140@virgin.net>

No I nearly did, but decided to wait.
Seems jumping in too early is bound to be fraught with problems.
Difficult to hold back though.....

Nathan


On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:07, Steven Jefferson wrote:

> Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?
> 
> I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.
> 
> IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library. Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.
> 
> Too much to go into here but.......
> 
> Steven Jefferson
> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
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From allanmacam at me.com  Sun Feb 28 13:31:23 2010
From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:31:23 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
In-Reply-To: <E428BF65-8D18-4363-8EEC-8159BF7E6140@virgin.net>
References: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831@zen.co.uk>
	<E428BF65-8D18-4363-8EEC-8159BF7E6140@virgin.net>
Message-ID: <DA995B1F-1BE0-4769-AF45-13B8DFC37DFE@me.com>

Fortunately, I have avoided the problems some users have had. I upgraded almost the day it came out and I have experienced no problems at all. I'm on a MacPro with 8GB RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card.

The recent upgrade speeds things up further and, on the whole, I find it a very stable application with really useful improvements in RAW conversion, editing, multiple non-destructive adjustment brushes, printing and working with multiple libraries to mention a few.

I only wish NIK would bring out 64 BIt versions of their plugins ASAP.

Allan Johns.




On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:13, Nathan Crosby wrote:
> No I nearly did, but decided to wait.
> Seems jumping in too early is bound to be fraught with problems.
> Difficult to hold back though.....
> 
> Nathan
> 
> 
> On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:07, Steven Jefferson wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?
>> 
>> I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.
>> 
>> IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library. Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.
>> 
>> Too much to go into here but...?.



From valeriehardman at btinternet.com  Sun Feb 28 13:49:42 2010
From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:49:42 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 36
In-Reply-To: <mailman.218.1267354136.176.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <984369.44107.qm@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hello Steven
I am trying the Aperture 3 trial and didn't think I had any problems. I don't have Aperture 2 so have no photos to convert from that.  What is the main worry with memory, my imac doesn't have masses.
By the way has anyone tried Pixelmator?
thanks
Valerie

--0000
> From: Steven Jefferson <steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk>
> Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831 at zen.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?
> 
> I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro
> with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the
> best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.
> 
> IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared
> for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when
> starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library.
> Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to
> bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if
> you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.
> 
> Too much to go into here but.......
>  
> Steven Jefferson
> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk
> 
> 
> 

From djr.massy at ntlworld.com  Sun Feb 28 15:45:05 2010
From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:45:05 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.218.1267354136.176.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
References: <mailman.218.1267354136.176.nmug@nmug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <0DFF3DB1-89B3-4F1C-ACBC-82E32AEE48B8@ntlworld.com>

Hi Nathan,

I wrote this to nmug in 2006:

"In May 2005 I bought a new Brother HL-2030B mono laser printer.  It  
came with a partially filled toner cartridge, which is still going  
strong.  I also bought a full toner cartridge (cheaper if bought at  
the same time).  The printer runs at about 6 ppm, possibly more.  No  
doubt the full spec. can be found on the Brother website.  You can  
choose between 300, 600 or 1200 dpi.  It has never given any trouble  
and I started with Mac OS 10.4.0 and now run 10.4.7.  It can be  
accessed wirelessly from a laptop downstairs using a Belkin router.   
I bought it online from Misco who have faithfully sent me their  
catalogue every month since.  The total cost including the extra  
toner cartridge, VAT and delivery (delivery was actually "free") was  
?88.11."

The machine is still going strong!

Jim.
======================================
On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:48, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:51:54 +0000
> From: nathan crosby <nathan.crosby at virgin.net>
> Subject: [NMUG] Laser printer
> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
> Message-ID: <4248C375-6DBB-4AA0-8FB9-356027937DC2 at virgin.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> I'm fed up with my old Epson refusing to print a black and while
> letter because a magenta cartridge has run out.
> I fancy a nice little b at W laser for the odd letter etc.
>
> Any suggestions please?
>
> Nathan


From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk  Sun Feb 28 16:29:07 2010
From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:29:07 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 36
In-Reply-To: <984369.44107.qm@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <984369.44107.qm@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F9B11287-C2E5-4450-B342-4DED24305F0D@zen.co.uk>

I have a number of different libraries two of which are 200 GB and 460 GB. With libraries of these size it's essential to convert the library on a drive with plenty of space as aperture 3 creates a duplicate library when converting. Also files where there have been many adjustments seem to be able to cause issues with memory and get into massive loops which end up crashing everything. Between the two if you enable Faces, Places and also try to convert files so they can take advantage of Aperture 3's new features (Curves etc) at the same time its a recipe for disaster, leading to the whole set up churning & churning with no progress.

There's a couple of excellent threads on the Apple Discussion Forums which give some very good advice. 

The upshot of this lot is that in addition to the upgrade I've shelled out for a new 2 TB drive and an e-SATA PCI Express Card.

I think that if you have started with a clean slate you won't run into the problems others have but its essential to carry out regular maintenance on the Aperture Library as well as regularly copy across to seperate disks to minimise fragmentation.  
 
Steven Jefferson
steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk



On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:49, VALERIE HARDMAN wrote:

> Hello Steven
> I am trying the Aperture 3 trial and didn't think I had any problems. I don't have Aperture 2 so have no photos to convert from that.  What is the main worry with memory, my imac doesn't have masses.
> By the way has anyone tried Pixelmator?
> thanks
> Valerie
> 
> --0000
>> From: Steven Jefferson <steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk>
>> Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
>> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
>> Message-ID: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831 at zen.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?
>> 
>> I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro
>> with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the
>> best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.
>> 
>> IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared
>> for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when
>> starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library.
>> Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to
>> bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if
>> you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.
>> 
>> Too much to go into here but.......
>> 
>> Steven Jefferson
>> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com  Sun Feb 28 17:27:04 2010
From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Simon Bainbridge2003r2tech@googlemail.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:27:04 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 36
In-Reply-To: <984369.44107.qm@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <984369.44107.qm@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B30DF449-0CCA-4546-AB61-BC2515EE48E4@googlemail.com>

I have Pixelmator and it is a great image editing program. It has lots  
powerful and easy to use filters. Also it has curves plus many other  
editing tools.

Pixelmator is a very good alternative to Photoshop Elements and runs  
faster on a Mac due to it using the Macs core graphics.

Highly recomended!

Simon Bainbridge

On 28 Feb 2010, at 13:49, VALERIE HARDMAN  
<valeriehardman at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hello Steven
> I am trying the Aperture 3 trial and didn't think I had any  
> problems. I don't have Aperture 2 so have no photos to convert from  
> that.  What is the main worry with memory, my imac doesn't have  
> masses.
> By the way has anyone tried Pixelmator?
> thanks
> Valerie
>
> --0000
>> From: Steven Jefferson <steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk>
>> Subject: [NMUG] Aperture 3!
>> To: Norwich Mac User Group list <nmug at nmug.org.uk>
>> Message-ID: <90F23E38-2BE3-4E11-AD5F-341E4C1FE831 at zen.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Has anyone bought or upgraded to A3?
>>
>> I have and its been two weeks of pain. This with a Mac Pro
>> with 12GB of RAM and numerous drives. Be warned to get the
>> best out of this you need to be seriously prepared.
>>
>> IE the Aperture 2 library needs to be thoroughly prepared
>> for conversion by doing maintenance via CMD-OPT when
>> starting aperture and verifying/repairing the library.
>> Beware that any heavily edited images have the potential to
>> bring conversion down. The Apple Forum is full of woe so if
>> you do plan on upgrading you know what steps to take.
>>
>> Too much to go into here but.......
>>
>> Steven Jefferson
>> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
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From michelehurst at mac.com  Sun Feb 28 20:51:02 2010
From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:51:02 +0000
Subject: [NMUG] Thanks to martin fry
Message-ID: <8907EC2C-31F0-46C6-94DC-088FB2F4F6F5@mac.com>

Hi everyone
Just to show how brill you all are I bought the g4 power pc martin  
mentioned the other day for my son to keep him virus free! Can't thank  
him enough, absolutely wonderful, have spent most of the day playing  
on it myself. Nmugers are legends!!!!
Thanks millions
Michele

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