From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Nov 1 00:02:27 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:02:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AECD013.1070803@stackyard.org> Barry, Wow! That's an impressively slow speed! You DO have broadband, don't you? Try restarting your router before calling BT (it's the first thing they will tell you to do). The easiest way is to pull the power lead out wait a couple seconds, plug it back in again and wait for it to wake up (some Home Hubs can take as much as a couple minutes to start and sync). If this doesn't make a difference, have a look at your internal telephone wiring, e.g. phones which are not filtered or double-filtering of the router (router somehow plugged into the telephone side of a microfilter). Do you know how far you are from your telephone exchange? Ken Barry Youngs wrote: > Hi > I think I may have a problem with my internet! > > Your current bandwidth reading is: > > 36.50kbps > > > Wow I long for the speed of Dial Up! > > I think I may need to get in touch with BT > > Barry > > > The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Sun Nov 1 00:46:46 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:46:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Speed In-Reply-To: <4AECD013.1070803@stackyard.org> References: <4AECD013.1070803@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <68CD7237-32F7-455D-A7B8-7E5081802DEE@mac.com> Nah, get rid of them. You have been accepting a sub standard service at a premium price Baz! Ask for your mac code ? then see how things rapidly change. Kelvin On 1 Nov 2009, at 00:02, Ken Hamer wrote: From cruachan.beatus at googlemail.com Sun Nov 1 07:16:46 2009 From: cruachan.beatus at googlemail.com (Campbell) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 07:16:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Possibly useful cleanup? Message-ID: <58ab5cce0911010016g6e08ce1ejdc62c6bfcccd462c@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Has anyone come across "Mac Paw" and specifically "Clean My Mac" Superficially, it looks to be a useful tool. Any comments appreciated. John From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Nov 1 08:48:25 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:48:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Speed In-Reply-To: <68CD7237-32F7-455D-A7B8-7E5081802DEE@mac.com> References: <4AECD013.1070803@stackyard.org> <68CD7237-32F7-455D-A7B8-7E5081802DEE@mac.com> Message-ID: <4AED4B59.7030501@stackyard.org> Brothers Youngs, The sync speed won't have anything to do with BT Broadband. It will be caused by a faulty router or some sort of line problem between the router and the DSLAM (Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer) at the telephone exchange and the same problem will remain no matter what the ISP. HOWEVER, if the problem is due to a line fault, bad DSLAM card or even a failed component in the master socket, it will be far easier getting it fixed if you are with one of the small, user-friendly ISPs than any of the large ones you've heard of (like BT, Virgin, TalkTalk, Orange, etc., etc.). So, yes, I agree with Kelvin but don't expect things to magically change. Someone has to do something with your line, either you by rationalising the internal telephone wiring or by BT Openreach after having a request from an ISP to fix whatever is broken. Ken Kelvin Youngs wrote: > Nah, get rid of them. > You have been accepting a sub standard service at a premium price Baz! > > Ask for your mac code ? then see how things rapidly change. > > Kelvin > > On 1 Nov 2009, at 00:02, Ken Hamer wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From bazyoungs at mac.com Sun Nov 1 09:57:54 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:57:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Speed In-Reply-To: <4AED4B59.7030501@stackyard.org> References: <4AECD013.1070803@stackyard.org> <68CD7237-32F7-455D-A7B8-7E5081802DEE@mac.com> <4AED4B59.7030501@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <229D2455-D016-4681-961F-D05784E4964B@mac.com> Thanks Ken and Kelvin for your responses, Yes I am on Broadband but have been having problems for a while now, it's is my own apathy that has prevented me from sorting this problem out earlier. I will get on to BT when I have more time in a couple of days time when my shifts will enable me to sort it out. This morning my speed has reached the dizzy heights of 279 kbps! I will of course either send out a pidgeon with a message attached or email you with my findings in a couple of days to let you know how I get on. Barry On 1 Nov 2009, at 08:48, Ken Hamer wrote: > Brothers Youngs, > > The sync speed won't have anything to do with BT Broadband. > Kelvin Youngs wrote: >> Nah, get rid of them. >> You have been accepting a sub standard service at a premium price >> Baz! >> I'm drinking several bottles of red wine a day, because they say it's good for you, but I keep falling over. Is this normal? From minkennison at mac.com Sun Nov 1 12:45:43 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:45:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Possibly useful cleanup? In-Reply-To: <58ab5cce0911010016g6e08ce1ejdc62c6bfcccd462c@mail.gmail.com> References: <58ab5cce0911010016g6e08ce1ejdc62c6bfcccd462c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13AC4CAE-0C9B-4F08-880F-4E42A547367C@mac.com> I use clean my mac regularly and find it a very useful tool indeed. It gets back loads of space each time Min On 1 Nov 2009, at 07:161 Nov 2009, Campbell wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone come across "Mac Paw" and specifically "Clean My > Mac" > Superficially, it looks to be a useful tool. > Any comments appreciated. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Sun Nov 1 20:50:43 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:50:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] a mystery Message-ID: <6B653D80-423C-485E-8E2E-0AAD9AAD8AB9@mac.com> I do hope someone can help me solve a mystery. On my powermac (which I am going to lend to a family member) there is, on the top toolbar a series of icons which reveal another mystery to me - the activity monitor. I am totally unaware as to how htese got there - although I am sure it was done by husband! but neither he nor I can find how to remove them. Has anybody any ideas Min From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sun Nov 1 21:39:36 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:39:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Me Message-ID: <46FA9CFF-DD7C-4319-9C24-847A280F93BB@ntlworld.com> Hi, just wondered if anyone uses Mobile Me? if so do u know if you can sync between two computers, in other words could I sync my Ical with my wives outllook calendar on her windows pc. Kerin From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sun Nov 1 21:58:30 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:58:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] a mystery In-Reply-To: <6B653D80-423C-485E-8E2E-0AAD9AAD8AB9@mac.com> References: <6B653D80-423C-485E-8E2E-0AAD9AAD8AB9@mac.com> Message-ID: Control-drag off? Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:50, Min Kennison wrote: > > > > > > I do hope someone can help me solve a mystery. > > On my powermac (which I am going to lend to a family member) there is, > on the top toolbar a series of icons which reveal another mystery to > me - the activity monitor. I am totally unaware as to how htese got > there - although I am sure it was done by husband! but neither he nor > I can find how to remove them. Has anybody any ideas > > > Min > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From djpbet at polbet.co.uk Mon Nov 2 09:35:51 2009 From: djpbet at polbet.co.uk (Betty Pooley) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:35:51 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Me In-Reply-To: <46FA9CFF-DD7C-4319-9C24-847A280F93BB@ntlworld.com> References: <46FA9CFF-DD7C-4319-9C24-847A280F93BB@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Yes you can. Go and get a lesson at the shop which is what I did. It is brilliant. Betty Pooley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerin Westgate" To: "Mac Group" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Me > Hi, just wondered if anyone uses Mobile Me? if so do u know if you > can sync between two computers, in other words could I sync my Ical > with my wives outllook calendar on her windows pc. > > Kerin > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 2 13:00:09 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:00:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Click To Flash Is Brilliant Message-ID: Hi. I don't know who mentioned it, but someone said they used Click To Flash a few weeks ago. http://github.com/rentzsch/clicktoflash I have been trying it for a few days and it is awesome. Not only does it make browsing a lot easier, it has the added bonus of blanking out most of those annoying banner ads. I haven't come across any problems so far with it. Utterly brilliant and so simple. Regards Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 2 13:10:05 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:10:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Click To Flash Is Brilliant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08E99418-E736-40EC-9FC9-E9500D24B868@durrant.co.uk> It does look interesting. One caveat. Apple still haven't provided a plug-in architecture for Safari, so it uses an unintended route to add in to Safari. This might cause problems in the future. The main site (rather than development page) is at http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ I'll give it a go. regards, Paul On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:00, Simon Royal wrote: > > I don't know who mentioned it, but someone said they used Click To > Flash a few weeks ago. > > http://github.com/rentzsch/clicktoflash > > I have been trying it for a few days and it is awesome. Not only does > it make browsing a lot easier, it has the added bonus of blanking out > most of those annoying banner ads. > > I haven't come across any problems so far with it. Utterly brilliant > and so simple. From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 13:28:47 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:28:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 'System Events' in login items Message-ID: Hi, last night my MacBook Pro started acting up - the screen would rapidly flicker; almost like a strobe light; and stop responding, I could still see the screen but everything was frozen and the mouse still worked, but apart from that everything was stuck. The only way to recover was to hold down the power button. I left it switched off overnight thinking it was an overheating issue, but when I tried to boot this morning I got the dreaded Kernel Panic screen. I managed to boot into safe mode, and had a look in the 'login items' in the account settings and spotted two 'growlhelper' applications and something called 'system events' - I had installed a new growl theme last night, so I removed both the 'growlhelper' apps and the 'system events' entry. so far so good, no more crashes, so I'm guessing the Kernel Panics were caused by Growl, but does anyone know what this 'system events' thing is? Scott -- :wq From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 2 16:03:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:03:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 'System Events' in login items In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6067802D-BFF0-4C25-A5DB-F67953B254BA@simonroyal.co.uk> Scott Not sure. I have Growl installed and just checked my login items and I don't have 'system events'. Simon On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:28, Scott Matthews wrote: > Hi, > > last night my MacBook Pro started acting up - the screen would rapidly > flicker; almost like a strobe light; and stop responding, I could > still see the screen but everything was frozen and the mouse still > worked, but apart from that everything was stuck. The only way to > recover was to hold down the power button. > > I left it switched off overnight thinking it was an overheating issue, > but when I tried to boot this morning I got the dreaded Kernel Panic > screen. > I managed to boot into safe mode, and had a look in the 'login items' > in the account settings and spotted two 'growlhelper' applications and > something called 'system events' - I had installed a new growl theme > last night, so I removed both the 'growlhelper' apps and the 'system > events' entry. so far so good, no more crashes, so I'm guessing the > Kernel Panics were caused by Growl, but does anyone know what this > 'system events' thing is? > > Scott > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Nov 2 16:09:07 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:09:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 'System Events' in login items In-Reply-To: <6067802D-BFF0-4C25-A5DB-F67953B254BA@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: thoughts... It just could be installed by a setting in Growl to provide notification from an otherwise unsupported application. regards Brian Simon Royal said recently: > Scott > > Not sure. I have Growl installed and just checked my login items and I > don't have 'system events'. > > Simon > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:28, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> last night my MacBook Pro started acting up - the screen would rapidly >> flicker; almost like a strobe light; and stop responding, I could >> still see the screen but everything was frozen and the mouse still >> worked, but apart from that everything was stuck. The only way to >> recover was to hold down the power button. >> >> I left it switched off overnight thinking it was an overheating issue, >> but when I tried to boot this morning I got the dreaded Kernel Panic >> screen. >> I managed to boot into safe mode, and had a look in the 'login items' >> in the account settings and spotted two 'growlhelper' applications and >> something called 'system events' - I had installed a new growl theme >> last night, so I removed both the 'growlhelper' apps and the 'system >> events' entry. so far so good, no more crashes, so I'm guessing the >> Kernel Panics were caused by Growl, but does anyone know what this >> 'system events' thing is? >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 16:24:29 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:24:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education discount Message-ID: <41464A62-2E84-4495-96AF-F83341B7CC37@virgin.net> Does anyone know if you can still get a Education discount on new macs? and if so , how much? My son wants to buy an imac ( I finally saved him from the dark side!) Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 16:25:49 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:25:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 'System Events' in login items In-Reply-To: References: <6067802D-BFF0-4C25-A5DB-F67953B254BA@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies, I shall investigate further when I get back from work, hopefully the problem is resolved, if not it's re-install time, which may not be a bad idea seeing as this MBP started off life as Tiger and has been upgraded to Leopard then Snow Leopard. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Brian Steere wrote: > thoughts... > It just could be installed by a setting in Growl to provide notification > from an otherwise unsupported application. > regards > Brian > > Simon Royal said recently: > >> Scott >> >> Not sure. I have Growl installed and just checked my login items and I >> don't have 'system events'. >> >> Simon >> >> On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:28, Scott Matthews wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> last night my MacBook Pro started acting up - the screen would rapidly >>> flicker; almost like a strobe light; and stop responding, I could >>> still see the screen but everything was frozen and the mouse still >>> worked, but apart from that everything was stuck. The only way to >>> recover was to hold down the power button. >>> >>> I left it switched off overnight thinking it was an overheating issue, >>> but when I tried to boot this morning I got the dreaded Kernel Panic >>> screen. >>> I managed to boot into safe mode, and had a look in the 'login items' >>> in the account settings and spotted two 'growlhelper' applications and >>> something called 'system events' - I had installed a new growl theme >>> last night, so I removed both the 'growlhelper' apps and the 'system >>> events' entry. so far so good, no more crashes, so I'm guessing the >>> Kernel Panics were caused by Growl, but does anyone know what this >>> 'system events' thing is? >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> -- >>> :wq >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 2 16:34:39 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:34:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education discount In-Reply-To: <41464A62-2E84-4495-96AF-F83341B7CC37@virgin.net> References: <41464A62-2E84-4495-96AF-F83341B7CC37@virgin.net> Message-ID: <503B2586-9BE4-465C-9F22-EF17A21B194A@durrant.co.uk> Yes, there's still an education discount on Macs, and also a large education discount on AppleCare (which makes it excellent value). http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/education_routing is the place to go, although if at university or college you need to connect from the college network (it checks IP addresses) or he could pop into the AppleStore in Chapelfield. I suspect tat there might be a slightly larger discount for university students that the education pricing we can see on the web. regards, Paul On 2 Nov 2009, at 16:24, Martin Fry wrote: > Does anyone know if you can still get a Education discount on new > macs? and if so , how much? > > My son wants to buy an imac ( I finally saved him from the dark side!) From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 16:37:48 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:37:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education discount In-Reply-To: <41464A62-2E84-4495-96AF-F83341B7CC37@virgin.net> References: <41464A62-2E84-4495-96AF-F83341B7CC37@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Martin Yep, my son Jack bought himself a lovely new macbook at the Apple store in Norwich the other day. They gave him the discount without any quibble or hassle. Cheers Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 2 Nov 2009, at 16:24, Martin Fry wrote: > Does anyone know if you can still get a Education discount on new > macs? and if so , how much? > > My son wants to buy an imac ( I finally saved him from the dark side!) > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 17:13:26 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:13:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word Message-ID: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> How much off a mac with educational discount? ALSO In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one column, picture numbers in the second column. The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical order. how do I do this please Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 17:20:33 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:20:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> Message-ID: <09C679C8-1862-443E-AB3D-1C2AB58F9CEA@virgin.net> 6% off if below 6th form 10% off if 6th-form 20% off if university student These are (we think) the amounts which currently apply Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 2 Nov 2009, at 17:13, Martin Fry wrote: > How much off a mac with educational discount? > > ALSO > > In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one > column, picture numbers in the second column. > > The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical > order. how do I do this please > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From fenmick at mac.com Mon Nov 2 18:17:18 2009 From: fenmick at mac.com (George Gilroy) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:17:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA44141-30B0-4BA7-B918-1AAAB980CCEC@mac.com> Kerin, Re MobileMe I have been using it for two years on my Macbook Pro and the commander in chief household's Macbook. To date it has worked without fault syncing Ical on either Mac. In Apr an iPhone joined the crew and it has also joined the system as well. I have got it syncing once a week or manually as required. Running Snow Leopard so far so good, but as a recent Apple convert (2 years) I still have that windows affliction of waiting for it to go wrong LOL! Regards George Sent from George's iPhone On 2 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at nmug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at nmug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at nmug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Possibly useful cleanup? (Min Kennison) > 2. a mystery (Min Kennison) > 3. Mobile Me (Kerin Westgate) > 4. Re: a mystery (Steven Jefferson) > 5. Re: Mobile Me (Betty Pooley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:45:43 +0000 > From: Min Kennison > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Possibly useful cleanup? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <13AC4CAE-0C9B-4F08-880F-4E42A547367C at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I use clean my mac regularly and find it a very useful tool indeed. > It gets back loads of space each time > > > Min > On 1 Nov 2009, at 07:161 Nov 2009, Campbell wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Has anyone come across "Mac Paw" and specifically "Clean My >> Mac" >> Superficially, it looks to be a useful tool. >> Any comments appreciated. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:50:43 +0000 > From: Min Kennison > Subject: [NMUG] a mystery > To: NMug NMUG > Message-ID: <6B653D80-423C-485E-8E2E-0AAD9AAD8AB9 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > > > > I do hope someone can help me solve a mystery. > > On my powermac (which I am going to lend to a family member) there is, > on the top toolbar a series of icons which reveal another mystery to > me - the activity monitor. I am totally unaware as to how htese got > there - although I am sure it was done by husband! but neither he nor > I can find how to remove them. Has anybody any ideas > > > Min > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:39:36 +0000 > From: Kerin Westgate > Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Me > To: Mac Group > Message-ID: <46FA9CFF-DD7C-4319-9C24-847A280F93BB at ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi, just wondered if anyone uses Mobile Me? if so do u know if you > can sync between two computers, in other words could I sync my Ical > with my wives outllook calendar on her windows pc. > > Kerin > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:58:30 +0000 > From: Steven Jefferson > Subject: Re: [NMUG] a mystery > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Control-drag off? > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:50, Min Kennison wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> I do hope someone can help me solve a mystery. >> >> On my powermac (which I am going to lend to a family member) there >> is, >> on the top toolbar a series of icons which reveal another mystery to >> me - the activity monitor. I am totally unaware as to how htese got >> there - although I am sure it was done by husband! but neither he nor >> I can find how to remove them. Has anybody any ideas >> >> >> Min >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:35:51 -0000 > From: "Betty Pooley" > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Mobile Me > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Yes you can. Go and get a lesson at the shop which is what I did. > It is > brilliant. > > Betty Pooley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerin Westgate" > To: "Mac Group" > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:39 PM > Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Me > > >> Hi, just wondered if anyone uses Mobile Me? if so do u know if you >> can sync between two computers, in other words could I sync my Ical >> with my wives outllook calendar on her windows pc. >> >> Kerin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 2 > *********************************** From thegees at jennygee.f2s.com Mon Nov 2 18:43:22 2009 From: thegees at jennygee.f2s.com (Malcolm Gee) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:43:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> Message-ID: <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> Hi Martin, In MS Word with the data etc you want to sort highlighted go to TABLE>SORT, and in the resulting window select the options you require. Regards, Malcolm. On 2 Nov 2009, at 17:13, Martin Fry wrote: > How much off a mac with educational discount? > > ALSO > > In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one > column, picture numbers in the second column. > > The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical > order. how do I do this please > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 2 18:50:24 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:50:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: 'System Events' in login items In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: got home, booted up and pow! kernel panic, ugh. there were crash logs, but I don't really know how to make sense of these, all 3 crash logs had this same section ---------------------------------------------------------------- Backtrace continues... Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies): com.apple.NVDAResman(6.0.2)@0x5c1a5000->0x5c438fff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x54de9000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x5b31d000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5b35f000 com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x5b31d000->0x5b32afff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5b35f000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x54de9000 com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x5b35f000->0x5b37cfff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x54de9000 BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer ---------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a nasty feeling it's something to do with this - http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377 I bought this MBP in August 2007, and it does have an NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT. I think that 'NVDAResman' is maybe NVIDIA Resource Manager or something. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Scott Matthews Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM Subject: 'System Events' in login items To: Norwich Mac User Group list Hi, last night my MacBook Pro started acting up - the screen would rapidly flicker; almost like a strobe light; and stop responding, I could still see the screen but everything was frozen and the mouse still worked, but apart from that everything was stuck. The only way to recover was to hold down the power button. I left it switched off overnight thinking it was an overheating issue, but when I tried to boot this morning I got the dreaded Kernel Panic screen. I managed to boot into safe mode, and had a look in the 'login items' in the account settings and spotted two 'growlhelper' applications and something called 'system events' - I had installed a new growl theme last night, so I removed both the 'growlhelper' apps and the 'system events' entry. so far so good, no more crashes, so I'm guessing the Kernel Panics were caused by Growl, but does anyone know what this 'system events' thing is? Scott From fowler.j at mac.com Mon Nov 2 20:18:19 2009 From: fowler.j at mac.com (Jonathan Fowler) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:18:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <09C679C8-1862-443E-AB3D-1C2AB58F9CEA@virgin.net> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> <09C679C8-1862-443E-AB3D-1C2AB58F9CEA@virgin.net> Message-ID: <860DB38A-5963-47CE-816E-7338C4A8A8E5@mac.com> It's 6% below 6th form 8% 6th form 15% university Sent from my iPhone On 2 Nov 2009, at 17:20, Jeremy Webb wrote: > 6% off if below 6th form > 10% off if 6th-form > 20% off if university student > These are (we think) the amounts which currently apply > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 17:13, Martin Fry wrote: > >> How much off a mac with educational discount? >> >> ALSO >> >> In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one >> column, picture numbers in the second column. >> >> The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical >> order. how do I do this please >> >> Martin >> >> Martin Fry >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 20:36:36 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:36:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: <797D5F65-27F7-4AE8-852D-FF1D4A5EB940@virgin.net> Hi Malcolm Still no luck The table/sort menu only states paragraphs & field-1 & I have tried that & nothing happens! Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > > In MS Word with the data etc you want to sort highlighted go to > TABLE>SORT, and in the resulting window select the options you > require. > Regards, > Malcolm. > > >> >> In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one >> column, picture numbers in the second column. >> >> The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical >> order. how do I do this please >> From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 2 21:44:44 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:44:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted Message-ID: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. I know this is a bit old, but back in my PC days I played nothing but Quake 2. I did have it on the Mac once, but I don't know what happened to it. Does anyone have Quake 2 for the Mac. It is one of the greatest games ever. Also if anyone has Quake I would be interested. Regards Simon Royal PS. I know a lot of you don't think it is a great game, but I do, even now. --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 2 22:04:25 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:04:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: Hi Malcolm All sorted. Many thanks for your input! Martin > > In MS Word with the data etc you want to sort highlighted go to > TABLE>SORT, and in the resulting window select the options you > require. > > Regards, > > Malcolm. > > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 17:13, Martin Fry wrote: > >> How much off a mac with educational discount? >> >> ALSO >> >> In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one >> column, picture numbers in the second column. >> >> The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical >> order. how do I do this please >> >> Martin >> >> Martin Fry >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From thegees at jennygee.f2s.com Mon Nov 2 22:16:38 2009 From: thegees at jennygee.f2s.com (Malcolm Gee) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:16:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <797D5F65-27F7-4AE8-852D-FF1D4A5EB940@virgin.net> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> <881B6B4E-9983-4050-9607-C16E6D9496C7@jennygee.f2s.com> <797D5F65-27F7-4AE8-852D-FF1D4A5EB940@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9FFC13D6-C988-4EC7-A39D-87B19B42EFA1@jennygee.f2s.com> Dear Martin, You need to be very careful when you select what you want to sort; either just place the cursor in a cell in the table or highlight the data in the table that you want to sort, BUT don't select anything outside the table. Selecting 'sort' from the 'Table' drop-down menu will then give you the option to sort by column not paragraph. Give it a try - hope it works this time! Best wishes, Jenny Gee On 2 Nov 2009, at 20:36, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Malcolm > > Still no luck > > The table/sort menu only states paragraphs & field-1 & I have tried > that & nothing happens! > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> >> In MS Word with the data etc you want to sort highlighted go to >> TABLE>SORT, and in the resulting window select the options you >> require. >> Regards, >> Malcolm. >> >> >>> >>> In M/S Word I have a list with 5 columns with the names in one >>> column, picture numbers in the second column. >>> >>> The names are random at the moment and I need then in alphabetical >>> order. how do I do this please >>> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 2 22:39:13 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:39:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Education & Word In-Reply-To: <860DB38A-5963-47CE-816E-7338C4A8A8E5@mac.com> References: <727D874A-E167-4CF0-AB5E-D769266FFF2C@virgin.net> <09C679C8-1862-443E-AB3D-1C2AB58F9CEA@virgin.net> <860DB38A-5963-47CE-816E-7338C4A8A8E5@mac.com> Message-ID: <8D59CE6A-E915-4D91-8719-9C5A7F4DDB50@durrant.co.uk> Thanks Jon! Good to know. Paul On 2 Nov 2009, at 20:18, Jonathan Fowler wrote: > It's 6% below 6th form > 8% 6th form > 15% university From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 2 22:43:33 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:43:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted In-Reply-To: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X version. http://www.fruitz-of-dojo.de/php/download.php4?dlnr=6 You'll still need a Quark II disk, but I think the data from the PC version will work with this engine. It's posible that the data from the Demo could work too. http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/index.php?game_section=demo regards, Paul On 2 Nov 2009, at 21:44, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I know this is a bit old, but back in my PC days I played nothing but > Quake 2. I did have it on the Mac once, but I don't know what happened > to it. > > Does anyone have Quake 2 for the Mac. It is one of the greatest games > ever. Also if anyone has Quake I would be interested. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Tue Nov 3 00:15:35 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:15:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? Message-ID: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> Here's a question for the various photographic folks out there. I'm sure it has been discussed before but I can't find it in the archives and things have probably changed anyway. I'm looking for a scanner to scan hundreds of 4-5-frame B/W negative strips and thousands of slides. Of course I want everything - fast, high quality and costing nothing. Does anyone know of a reasonable film scanner or flat-bed with film scanning abilities? I have an old Epson FilmScan 200 which actually works OK but is slow and requires a SCSI 2 interface which, of course, is missing from my trusty Mac Mini. The prospective scanner has to be Mac-compatible but I think most things like this usually are these days. I think that finding a USB2 -> SCSI 2, Mac-compatible adapter and getting it to work reliably with the scanner is going to be very tiresome so I might as well get a new scanner. Many thanks. Ken From tom at tomkershaw.com Tue Nov 3 01:08:46 2009 From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:08:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? In-Reply-To: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> Scanning can become very time consuming, so I would pre-plan a strategy for working through the pile of film. I use a Nikon model but as you want to scan 4x5" you might be worth looking at the Epson 'V' series models e.g. V700. To pull maximum image quality from the 35mm slides a film scanner is recommended. http://www.jigsaw24.com/default.aspx?IP=&ITEM=JIGSX264ALA Tom Ken Hamer wrote: > Here's a question for the various photographic folks out there. I'm > sure it has been discussed before but I can't find it in the archives > and things have probably changed anyway. > > I'm looking for a scanner to scan hundreds of 4-5-frame B/W negative > strips and thousands of slides. Of course I want everything - fast, > high quality and costing nothing. Does anyone know of a reasonable film > scanner or flat-bed with film scanning abilities? I have an old Epson > FilmScan 200 which actually works OK but is slow and requires a SCSI 2 > interface which, of course, is missing from my trusty Mac Mini. > > The prospective scanner has to be Mac-compatible but I think most things > like this usually are these days. > > I think that finding a USB2 -> SCSI 2, Mac-compatible adapter and > getting it to work reliably with the scanner is going to be very > tiresome so I might as well get a new scanner. > > Many thanks. > > Ken > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From cruachan.beatus at googlemail.com Tue Nov 3 06:34:31 2009 From: cruachan.beatus at googlemail.com (Campbell) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:34:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Possible Mac clean up software Message-ID: <58ab5cce0911022234ldd1051en758b3e71cbfc5892@mail.gmail.com> Hello Min, Many thanks, I shall purchase the Clean My Mac forthwith. Actually, I cheated a little and used the full demo and was mightily impressed. However, having being taught to be cautious, I needed a bit of confirmation before taking the plunge. Diving impetuously into some of these "magic" nostrums can result in "tears before bedtime", as my Granny would have said. Can you suggest any tips, suggestions or "watch this step" which I can usefully apply? Very many thanks, John From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Tue Nov 3 08:17:22 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:17:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? In-Reply-To: <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> Message-ID: <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> Tom, Thanks for this. I seem to have misled people as to what I need to do. I don't need to scan 4x5 negatives, just 35mm strips of between 4 and 5 frames per strip. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. But I will look at the V series. Many thanks. Ken Tom Kershaw wrote: > Scanning can become very time consuming, so I would pre-plan a strategy > for working through the pile of film. I use a Nikon model but as you > want to scan 4x5" you might be worth looking at the Epson 'V' series > models e.g. V700. To pull maximum image quality from the 35mm slides a > film scanner is recommended. > > http://www.jigsaw24.com/default.aspx?IP=&ITEM=JIGSX264ALA > > Tom > > Ken Hamer wrote: > >> Here's a question for the various photographic folks out there. I'm >> sure it has been discussed before but I can't find it in the archives >> and things have probably changed anyway. >> >> I'm looking for a scanner to scan hundreds of 4-5-frame B/W negative >> strips and thousands of slides. Of course I want everything - fast, >> high quality and costing nothing. Does anyone know of a reasonable film >> scanner or flat-bed with film scanning abilities? I have an old Epson >> FilmScan 200 which actually works OK but is slow and requires a SCSI 2 >> interface which, of course, is missing from my trusty Mac Mini. >> >> The prospective scanner has to be Mac-compatible but I think most things >> like this usually are these days. >> >> I think that finding a USB2 -> SCSI 2, Mac-compatible adapter and >> getting it to work reliably with the scanner is going to be very >> tiresome so I might as well get a new scanner. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Ken >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From macman at f2s.com Tue Nov 3 08:20:11 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:20:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? In-Reply-To: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <08FBC592-BE2B-4FEA-84B1-1CE0573BC634@f2s.com> I had the exact same requirement earlier this year, and after recommendation from Paul C and a lot of research I decided to go with Epson. Whatever you buy, it must have a film/slide scanning facility. I was very fortunate in finding a 2nd hand discontinued one on eBay for ?30.00 delivered, although I had to do some work on it to get it up & running. The results are excellent, and I would thoroughly recommend the brand. Had I had to go for new, I would have bought the low end V300, as my slides were simply nostalgic rather than for photographic merit, but for important pictures a higher end model may be preferable. It works perfectly well with its own software, or you can use it directly from Photoshop. http://tinyurl.com/lr53gl One word of caution: scanning at very high resolutions takes a long, long time ....... I stuck with 600dpi! Robbie On 3 Nov 2009, at 00:15, Ken Hamer wrote: Here's a question for the various photographic folks out there. I'm sure it has been discussed before but I can't find it in the archives and things have probably changed anyway. I'm looking for a scanner to scan hundreds of 4-5-frame B/W negative strips and thousands of slides. Of course I want everything - fast, high quality and costing nothing. Does anyone know of a reasonable film scanner or flat-bed with film scanning abilities? I have an old Epson FilmScan 200 which actually works OK but is slow and requires a SCSI 2 interface which, of course, is missing from my trusty Mac Mini. The prospective scanner has to be Mac-compatible but I think most things like this usually are these days. I think that finding a USB2 -> SCSI 2, Mac-compatible adapter and getting it to work reliably with the scanner is going to be very tiresome so I might as well get a new scanner. Many thanks. Ken _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Tue Nov 3 08:28:04 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:28:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? In-Reply-To: <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4A87ADC1-4A35-40C5-A718-9CE6CADD274E@virgin.net> Hi Ken You could try and find something like the Epson 4990 - a couple of years old now but with a transparency hood and it has done me several years good service. High res scans from virtually any format of a quality level almost identical to that of drum scanning. Not my opinion - that's what picture editors have told me. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 3 Nov 2009, at 08:17, Ken Hamer wrote: > Tom, > > Thanks for this. I seem to have misled people as to what I need to > do. > I don't need to scan 4x5 negatives, just 35mm strips of between 4 > and 5 > frames per strip. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. But I > will > look at the V series. > > Many thanks. > > Ken > > Tom Kershaw wrote: >> Scanning can become very time consuming, so I would pre-plan a >> strategy >> for working through the pile of film. I use a Nikon model but as you >> want to scan 4x5" you might be worth looking at the Epson 'V' series >> models e.g. V700. To pull maximum image quality from the 35mm >> slides a >> film scanner is recommended. >> >> http://www.jigsaw24.com/default.aspx?IP=&ITEM=JIGSX264ALA >> >> Tom >> >> Ken Hamer wrote: >> >>> Here's a question for the various photographic folks out there. I'm >>> sure it has been discussed before but I can't find it in the >>> archives >>> and things have probably changed anyway. >>> >>> I'm looking for a scanner to scan hundreds of 4-5-frame B/W negative >>> strips and thousands of slides. Of course I want everything - fast, >>> high quality and costing nothing. Does anyone know of a >>> reasonable film >>> scanner or flat-bed with film scanning abilities? I have an old >>> Epson >>> FilmScan 200 which actually works OK but is slow and requires a >>> SCSI 2 >>> interface which, of course, is missing from my trusty Mac Mini. >>> >>> The prospective scanner has to be Mac-compatible but I think most >>> things >>> like this usually are these days. >>> >>> I think that finding a USB2 -> SCSI 2, Mac-compatible adapter and >>> getting it to work reliably with the scanner is going to be very >>> tiresome so I might as well get a new scanner. >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Ken >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>> listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From jeremyknight at mac.com Tue Nov 3 08:57:35 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:57:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iphoto losing photos In-Reply-To: <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <1046B23C-FAEF-486B-BF7C-1614D1EAB55F@mac.com> Morning All, Someone mentioned a time ago that they had lost all their pictures in some Iphoto albums. Did they sort the problem? jeremy From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Nov 3 09:01:13 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:01:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Film Scanner? In-Reply-To: <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> References: <4AEF7627.50904@stackyard.org> <4AEF829E.6000409@tomkershaw.com> <4AEFE712.5090801@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <0B80C3A2-CE4D-4055-8307-9856C63B12CC@virgin.net> Hi Ken How about the Nikon Coolscan v5 35mm film scanner. I have used one for years! It has a thing called digital ice built in to remove the dust & scratches you will get with negatives. You won't get one for ?30.00 though! Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > > Thanks for this. I seem to have misled people as to what I need to > do. > I don't need to scan 4x5 negatives, just 35mm strips of between 4 > and 5 > frames per strip. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. But I > will > look at the V series. > > Many thanks. > > Ken From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 3 09:14:56 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:14:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted In-Reply-To: <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> References: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul Thanks. I think I remember you mentioned that before. Just need to get Quake 2 now. But the PC version is very easy to pick up. Simon On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:43, Paul Durrant wrote: > The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X version. > > http://www.fruitz-of-dojo.de/php/download.php4?dlnr=6 > > You'll still need a Quark II disk, but I think the data from the PC > version will work with this engine. It's posible that the data from > the Demo could work too. > > http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/index.php?game_section=demo > > regards, > > Paul > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 21:44, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I know this is a bit old, but back in my PC days I played nothing but >> Quake 2. I did have it on the Mac once, but I don't know what >> happened >> to it. >> >> Does anyone have Quake 2 for the Mac. It is one of the greatest games >> ever. Also if anyone has Quake I would be interested. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 3 09:18:35 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:18:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted In-Reply-To: <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> References: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <1DAF9DCF-6E77-4C41-8F0D-2066F242528C@durrant.co.uk> Whoops. I thought "Quake" but my fingers typed "Quark"... regards, Paul On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:43, Paul Durrant wrote: > The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X version. [...] > You'll still need a Quark II From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 3 09:22:19 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:22:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted In-Reply-To: <1DAF9DCF-6E77-4C41-8F0D-2066F242528C@durrant.co.uk> References: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> <1DAF9DCF-6E77-4C41-8F0D-2066F242528C@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I didn't read Quark, I read Quake, so no harm done. ha ha. Simon On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > Whoops. I thought "Quake" but my fingers typed "Quark"... > > regards, > > Paul > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:43, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X version. > [...] >> You'll still need a Quark II > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 3 12:49:06 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:49:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Questions Regarding The NMUG References: <4999A2BB-9240-4C24-B3C3-8AAA66644523@macwiz.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi All, Here's an offer from a chap called John Walker. Please follow up with John directly if you're interested. regards, Paul Begin forwarded message: > From: John Walker > Date: 3 November 2009 10:24:10 GMT > To: paul at durrant.co.uk > Subject: Questions Regarding The NMUG > > Hi Paul > > I am a mac-based designer and IT consultant working in the UK. I > have started a website that allows mac professional users to add an > entry about themselves, including a link to their own site as well > as some pictures/photos for a mini portfolio. > > The site is purely for mac users and will hopefully be a good way to > search for mac-based photographers, illustrators and designers etc, > either to commission or to work with. It will be searchable by > category or location. > > I hope you can find an appropriate way to pass this information on > the NMUG members, either at a meeting or in an email/forum post. > > The website is: http://macwiz.co.uk. > > I can also offer remote desktop support for those unable to consult > a Mac Genius at a 'local' Apple Store, so technical help and tuition > needn't quite be so far away. Details are on the site. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Best wishes > > John > > John Walker > john at macwiz.co.uk > http://macwiz.co.uk > 08458 388707 > 07525 368812 > > The Cottage > 26 Denchworth Road > Wantage > Oxfordshire > OX12 9AX From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 3 17:21:23 2009 From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:21:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted In-Reply-To: References: <5FE8C2C4-7653-4A9A-9F1F-DC8664F6D0EA@simonroyal.co.uk> <202807F2-1DC3-4512-B63A-1C63D34189BE@durrant.co.uk> <1DAF9DCF-6E77-4C41-8F0D-2066F242528C@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <82EC7B96-FB03-4467-BBD2-9BF3BD39372C@ntlworld.com> I have the Norfolk version..."Coypu!" On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:22, Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > I didn't read Quark, I read Quake, so no harm done. ha ha. > > Simon > > On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> Whoops. I thought "Quake" but my fingers typed "Quark"... >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:43, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X version. >> [...] >>> You'll still need a Quark II >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at vanedwards.co.uk Tue Nov 3 19:09:11 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:09:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Thank you! In-Reply-To: References: <4999A2BB-9240-4C24-B3C3-8AAA66644523@macwiz.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear Paul, Your good advice about there being an update for Thea's Quark [not Quake] has cured all her problems, it now works perfectly with no crashes. I also followed your advice and bought an LG optical DVD reader/writer and installed it without too much difficulty; though I only realised what you meant about needing to remove the bezel after the first attempt! I thought the bezel was the whole front face and, failing to remove that, left it in place, so the drawer hit the top of the slot in the casing. Then I found this instruction video which perhaps might be of use to others, there appear to lots of these videos and this one was clear and complete. http://eshop.macsales.com/installvideos/ Best wishes from us both, David and Thea -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 3 22:01:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:01:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Faster Bigger Hard Drive... And Machine Message-ID: <8E20DED4-B594-400F-8576-8909C42DAFC3@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. As you know I love my TiBook and for the whole it does everything I need it too. It is an 867Mhz model. I am still awaiting the arrival of a 1Ghz model with no RAM or hard drive, other than that it is in mint condition. I was going to just take the hard drive out of mine and pop it in. Simple. No re-install required. However, I wondered if there was any mileage in getting a bigger faster hard drive. I currently have an 80GB 5400RPM Fujitsu MHT2080AH drive. I have fitted 7200RPM drives in other Macs and noticed the difference. I thought with the slight increase in processor speed, faster hard drive and double the video RAM (the 867Mhz has 32MB, the 1GB has 64MB) that this should make quite a difference in performance, especially under Leopard. It would also keep it going a little longer before the move to a MacBook... in the very distant future. Having a larger hard drive would mean I could go back to triple booting - something I miss - between Leopard, Tiger and OS9. Would the combination of increased processor speed, faster hard drive and more video RAM make a difference? The TiBook suffer from the 128GB limit, although this is partition limit not drive limit, so as long as each partition was less than 120GB I should be ok. Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 3 22:08:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:08:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Partitioning Strategy Message-ID: <12F03ABD-EB8F-4245-9ACA-8FC8A08A8DE1@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. Following my previous email I am thinking of installing a new hard drive in my TiBook and partitioning it. Is there any benefit to keeping all your files on a different partition to your OS? I was thinking along the lines of: Partition 1: Leopard install. Partition 2: Tiger install. Partition 3: OS9 install. Partition 4: User files. The benefit I can see is that although I would use Leopard the majority of the time, if I did boot into a different OS, all my files would be in the same place and accessed from the same partition. Can Leopard read files from an OS9 partition and visa-versa? Apart from multiple OSes, is there any benefit to having separate partitions? Does it make your drive work any harder? Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From jill at 2js.org Wed Nov 4 08:56:09 2009 From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Parallels Message-ID: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This was one reply "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a virtual machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted as HFS+ and you're off to the races" I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in practice? Thanks Jill From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 4 09:19:16 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:19:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Parallels In-Reply-To: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> References: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> Message-ID: <2DA0C50A-2356-4D52-A6A1-74792883668D@durrant.co.uk> Yes, it'll work fine. Parallels doesn't care where it's disk image is stored, so it'll be fine to store it on an external hard disk. But there's not a lot of point unless you're low on space on your internal hard disk. Well, I suppose that does depend on how much hard disk space you want for your Windows installation. Oh - and be aware that Time Machine will back up a copy of your windows disk image every time it changes unless it's excluded. But if you do exlcude it, don't forget to make back-up arrangements for your Windows files some other way - perhaps by manually copying important ones to someone on your main hard disk. regards, Paul On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! > so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This > was one reply > > "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere > (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of > one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're > using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format > that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a virtual > machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size > limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted > as HFS+ and you're off to the races" > > I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in > practice? > Thanks Jill From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 4 09:32:06 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:32:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Parallels In-Reply-To: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> References: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> Message-ID: <3208CD69-6BA4-4DCC-9C07-2F409E29A75A@mac.com> Hi, Jill. What program is it you want to run? If it is comparatively small and not disk intensive, you might be better off just running Parallels from your Mac internal HD. External HDs, even via firewire, can be somewhat slower than internal SATA drives. Don't forget that if you don't need to run OS X programs at the same time, you could have a small Boot Camp partition and not need Parallels at all. On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! > so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This > was one reply > > "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere > (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of > one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're > using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format > that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a virtual > machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size > limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted > as HFS+ and you're off to the races" > > I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in > practice? > Thanks Jill > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 4 09:49:00 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:49:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Parallels In-Reply-To: <3208CD69-6BA4-4DCC-9C07-2F409E29A75A@mac.com> References: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830@2js.org> <3208CD69-6BA4-4DCC-9C07-2F409E29A75A@mac.com> Message-ID: <3B2E07C1-BF70-4667-AA25-3739FBE8624E@f2s.com> Or you could use Virtual Box, which is free: http://tinyurl.com/4n75gz I have it installed and it works really well with Windows 7. You will, of course, require a Windows OS! There is an alternative called Crossover which runs individual Windows programmes within the Mac OS, but I couldn't get my head round it and gave up ... http://tinyurl.com/ybvq5u Hope this helps Robbie On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:32, Richard Nevill wrote: Don't forget that if you don't need to run OS X programs at the same time, you could have a small Boot Camp partition and not need Parallels at all. On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! > so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This > was one reply > > "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere > (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of > one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're > using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format > that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a virtual > machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size > limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted > as HFS+ and you're off to the races" > > I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in > practice? > Thanks Jill > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tom at tomkershaw.com Wed Nov 4 12:03:12 2009 From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:03:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Slow speeds downloading from Software Update Message-ID: <4AF16D80.6000601@tomkershaw.com> Has anyone else experienced slow speeds downloading from 'Software Update' today? I'm running 10.4.11 Tom From jill at 2js.org Wed Nov 4 12:20:43 2009 From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:20:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for help re parallels, I'll take a look at Crossover Jill On 4 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at nmug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at nmug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at nmug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Questions Regarding The NMUG (Paul Durrant) > 2. Re: Quake 2 Wanted (Phil Charnley) > 3. Thank you! (David Van Edwards) > 4. Faster Bigger Hard Drive... And Machine (Simon Royal) > 5. Partitioning Strategy (Simon Royal) > 6. Parallels (Jill Searle) > 7. Re: Parallels (Paul Durrant) > 8. Re: Parallels (Richard Nevill) > 9. Re: Parallels (Robbie Murray) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:49:06 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Questions Regarding The NMUG > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi All, > > Here's an offer from a chap called John Walker. Please follow up with > John directly if you're interested. > > regards, > > Paul > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: John Walker >> Date: 3 November 2009 10:24:10 GMT >> To: paul at durrant.co.uk >> Subject: Questions Regarding The NMUG >> >> Hi Paul >> >> I am a mac-based designer and IT consultant working in the UK. I >> have started a website that allows mac professional users to add an >> entry about themselves, including a link to their own site as well >> as some pictures/photos for a mini portfolio. >> >> The site is purely for mac users and will hopefully be a good way to >> search for mac-based photographers, illustrators and designers etc, >> either to commission or to work with. It will be searchable by >> category or location. >> >> I hope you can find an appropriate way to pass this information on >> the NMUG members, either at a meeting or in an email/forum post. >> >> The website is: http://macwiz.co.uk. >> >> I can also offer remote desktop support for those unable to consult >> a Mac Genius at a 'local' Apple Store, so technical help and tuition >> needn't quite be so far away. Details are on the site. >> >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Best wishes >> >> John >> >> John Walker >> john at macwiz.co.uk >> http://macwiz.co.uk >> 08458 388707 >> 07525 368812 >> >> The Cottage >> 26 Denchworth Road >> Wantage >> Oxfordshire >> OX12 9AX > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:21:23 +0000 > From: Phil Charnley > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Quake 2 Wanted > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <82EC7B96-FB03-4467-BBD2-9BF3BD39372C at ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > I have the Norfolk version..."Coypu!" > > > > On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:22, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Paul >> >> I didn't read Quark, I read Quake, so no harm done. ha ha. >> >> Simon >> >> On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:18, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> Whoops. I thought "Quake" but my fingers typed "Quark"... >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:43, Paul Durrant wrote: >>> >>>> The engine for Quark II is available for free in a Mac OS X >>>> version. >>> [...] >>>> You'll still need a Quark II >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:09:11 +0000 > From: David Van Edwards > Subject: [NMUG] Thank you! > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Dear Paul, > > Your good advice about there being an update for Thea's Quark [not > Quake] has cured all her problems, it now works perfectly with no > crashes. > > I also followed your advice and bought an LG optical DVD > reader/writer and installed it without too much difficulty; though I > only realised what you meant about needing to remove the bezel after > the first attempt! I thought the bezel was the whole front face and, > failing to remove that, left it in place, so the drawer hit the top > of the slot in the casing. > > Then I found this instruction video which perhaps might be of use to > others, there appear to lots of these videos and this one was clear > and complete. > > http://eshop.macsales.com/installvideos/ > > Best wishes from us both, > > David and Thea > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:01:51 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Faster Bigger Hard Drive... And Machine > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <8E20DED4-B594-400F-8576-8909C42DAFC3 at simonroyal.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi. > > As you know I love my TiBook and for the whole it does everything I > need it too. > > It is an 867Mhz model. I am still awaiting the arrival of a 1Ghz model > with no RAM or hard drive, other than that it is in mint condition. I > was going to just take the hard drive out of mine and pop it in. > Simple. No re-install required. > > However, I wondered if there was any mileage in getting a bigger > faster hard drive. I currently have an 80GB 5400RPM Fujitsu MHT2080AH > drive. I have fitted 7200RPM drives in other Macs and noticed the > difference. > > I thought with the slight increase in processor speed, faster hard > drive and double the video RAM (the 867Mhz has 32MB, the 1GB has 64MB) > that this should make quite a difference in performance, especially > under Leopard. It would also keep it going a little longer before the > move to a MacBook... in the very distant future. > > Having a larger hard drive would mean I could go back to triple > booting - something I miss - between Leopard, Tiger and OS9. > > Would the combination of increased processor speed, faster hard drive > and more video RAM make a difference? > > The TiBook suffer from the 128GB limit, although this is partition > limit not drive limit, so as long as each partition was less than > 120GB I should be ok. > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:08:42 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Partitioning Strategy > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <12F03ABD-EB8F-4245-9ACA-8FC8A08A8DE1 at simonroyal.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi. > > Following my previous email I am thinking of installing a new hard > drive in my TiBook and partitioning it. > > Is there any benefit to keeping all your files on a different > partition to your OS? > > I was thinking along the lines of: > > Partition 1: Leopard install. > Partition 2: Tiger install. > Partition 3: OS9 install. > Partition 4: User files. > > The benefit I can see is that although I would use Leopard the > majority of the time, if I did boot into a different OS, all my files > would be in the same place and accessed from the same partition. > > Can Leopard read files from an OS9 partition and visa-versa? Apart > from multiple OSes, is there any benefit to having separate > partitions? Does it make your drive work any harder? > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:56:09 +0000 > From: Jill Searle > Subject: [NMUG] Parallels > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Message-ID: <27700A98-49B8-4EF2-B940-C432DAC4C830 at 2js.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! > so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This > was one reply > > "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere > (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of > one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're > using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format > that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a virtual > machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size > limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted > as HFS+ and you're off to the races" > > I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in > practice? > Thanks Jill > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:19:16 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Parallels > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2DA0C50A-2356-4D52-A6A1-74792883668D at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Yes, it'll work fine. Parallels doesn't care where it's disk image is > stored, so it'll be fine to store it on an external hard disk. But > there's not a lot of point unless you're low on space on your internal > hard disk. > > Well, I suppose that does depend on how much hard disk space you want > for your Windows installation. > > Oh - and be aware that Time Machine will back up a copy of your > windows disk image every time it changes unless it's excluded. But if > you do exlcude it, don't forget to make back-up arrangements for your > Windows files some other way - perhaps by manually copying important > ones to someone on your main hard disk. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > >> I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! >> so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This >> was one reply >> >> "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere >> (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of >> one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're >> using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format >> that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a >> virtual >> machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size >> limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted >> as HFS+ and you're off to the races" >> >> I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in >> practice? >> Thanks Jill > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:32:06 +0000 > From: Richard Nevill > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Parallels > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <3208CD69-6BA4-4DCC-9C07-2F409E29A75A at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi, Jill. > > What program is it you want to run? If it is comparatively small and > not disk intensive, you might be better off just running Parallels > from your Mac internal HD. > > External HDs, even via firewire, can be somewhat slower than internal > SATA drives. > > Don't forget that if you don't need to run OS X programs at the same > time, you could have a small Boot Camp partition and not need > Parallels at all. > > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > >> I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! >> so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This >> was one reply >> >> "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere >> (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of >> one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're >> using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format >> that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a >> virtual >> machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size >> limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted >> as HFS+ and you're off to the races" >> >> I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in >> practice? >> Thanks Jill >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:49:00 +0000 > From: Robbie Murray > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Parallels > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <3B2E07C1-BF70-4667-AA25-3739FBE8624E at f2s.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Or you could use Virtual Box, which is free: > > http://tinyurl.com/4n75gz > > I have it installed and it works really well with Windows 7. > > You will, of course, require a Windows OS! > > There is an alternative called Crossover which runs individual Windows > programmes within the Mac OS, but I couldn't get my head round it and > gave up ... > > http://tinyurl.com/ybvq5u > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:32, Richard Nevill wrote: > > Don't forget that if you don't need to run OS X programs at the same > time, you could have a small Boot Camp partition and not need > Parallels at all. > > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 08:56, Jill Searle wrote: > >> I forgot that I might need 1 PC program when I set up my new machine! >> so I googled the possibility of using Parallels on an ext HD - This >> was one reply >> >> "No complicated partitioning, no scattered Windows files everywhere >> (VMWare and Parallels both keep the Windows installation inside of >> one, big, monolithic file), no fussing. Just make sure that if you're >> using a locally-attached disk that the disk is formatted in a format >> that's not too antiquated (I recommend HFS+)... if you stick a >> virtual >> machine image file on a FAT32 disk, then you'll soon hit a file-size >> limitation with FAT32. Just make sure the FireWire disk is formatted >> as HFS+ and you're off to the races" >> >> I'm sure that someone in nmug will know if this does actually work in >> practice? >> Thanks Jill >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 7 > *********************************** From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 4 12:23:46 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:23:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Slow speeds downloading from Software Update In-Reply-To: <4AF16D80.6000601@tomkershaw.com> References: <4AF16D80.6000601@tomkershaw.com> Message-ID: <2176F5BE-D8C5-478C-A118-25EDE242A0C2@ntlworld.com> Hi, just ran my update seems fine. (S/L) On 4 Nov 2009, at 12:03, Tom Kershaw wrote: > Has anyone else experienced slow speeds downloading from 'Software > Update' today? > > I'm running 10.4.11 > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tom at tomkershaw.com Wed Nov 4 12:42:07 2009 From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:42:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Slow speeds downloading from Software Update In-Reply-To: <2176F5BE-D8C5-478C-A118-25EDE242A0C2@ntlworld.com> References: <4AF16D80.6000601@tomkershaw.com> <2176F5BE-D8C5-478C-A118-25EDE242A0C2@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <4AF1769F.9070208@tomkershaw.com> Turns out the BT I.P. profile has dropped to 500 Kbps due to a line interruption, apparently it can take up to 72 hours to auto-reconfigure to the correct speed. Tom Kerin Westgate wrote: > Hi, just ran my update seems fine. (S/L) > > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 12:03, Tom Kershaw wrote: > > >> Has anyone else experienced slow speeds downloading from 'Software >> Update' today? >> >> I'm running 10.4.11 >> >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 4 14:00:46 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:00:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Slow speeds downloading from Software Update In-Reply-To: <4AF1769F.9070208@tomkershaw.com> References: <4AF16D80.6000601@tomkershaw.com> <2176F5BE-D8C5-478C-A118-25EDE242A0C2@ntlworld.com> <4AF1769F.9070208@tomkershaw.com> Message-ID: <4AF1890E.1000901@stackyard.org> Tom, Pull the power lead out of the back of your router, wait a second or two and then plug in again. Wait for the router to wake up (BT Home Hubs can take a couple minutes) and then see what speed you have. I suspect it will be back to normal, whatever normal is. Ken Tom Kershaw wrote: > Turns out the BT I.P. profile has dropped to 500 Kbps due to a line > interruption, apparently it can take up to 72 hours to auto-reconfigure > to the correct speed. > > Tom > > > > Kerin Westgate wrote: > >> Hi, just ran my update seems fine. (S/L) >> >> >> On 4 Nov 2009, at 12:03, Tom Kershaw wrote: >> >> >> >>> Has anyone else experienced slow speeds downloading from 'Software >>> Update' today? >>> >>> I'm running 10.4.11 >>> >>> Tom >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 4 19:08:58 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:08:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Idisk Message-ID: Hi, I'm just trying to set up Mobile Me and use the Idisk, we have a relative that lives in the states and thought it would be a good way to transfer photo's between us, but when I got her to try it last night she got a error, all I know is she is running windows 7, has anyone else had compatibility problems with windows 7 and idisk? Kerin From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 4 20:45:07 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:45:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] idisk Message-ID: Hi, I'm just trying to set up Mobile Me and use the Idisk, we have a relative that lives in the states and thought it would be a good way to transfer photo's between us, but when I got her to try it last night she got a error, all I know is she is running windows 7, has anyone else had compatibility problems with windows 7 and idisk? Kerin From batchsteve at googlemail.com Thu Nov 5 08:11:02 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:11:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A fun way to free up disk space? Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AM6AN1hTCY From minkennison at mac.com Thu Nov 5 08:59:42 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:59:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] idisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8F4131C5-4D9C-428F-AC71-160714A01A25@mac.com> Hi Kerin Has your friend downloaded iDisk for windows. I send things to the dark side regularly and have had no problems after the idisk for windows was downloaded by my friend Min On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:454 Nov 2009, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Hi, I'm just trying to set up Mobile Me and use the Idisk, we have a > relative that lives in the states and thought it would be a good way > to transfer photo's between us, but when I got her to try it last > night she got a error, all I know is she is running windows 7, has > anyone else had compatibility problems with windows 7 and idisk? > > > Kerin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:53:35 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:53:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A fun way to free up disk space? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I read about this the other day, I think it's ridiculous that symantec have labelled it as a trojan, the 'game' clearly states that it will delete your files. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Steve Batch wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AM6AN1hTCY > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 5 12:29:01 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:29:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Refurb 13" MacBook Pro Message-ID: I was just looking through Apple's refurb site ( http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals ), when I saw that they had refurb 2.26GHz 13.3" MacBook Pros for ?749! Since they're currently ?899 new this is a bargain, if you're looking for a new laptop (& aren't eligible for education discount.) If I hadn't got my 15.2" MacBook Pro a short while ago, I'd get one like a shot. http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB990B/A?mco=MTA4MzQ4MDk regards, Paul From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Nov 5 13:04:29 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:04:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer driver Message-ID: <34965B4E-AFDC-4CF0-A45C-93BC8A3E5021@virgin.net> Hello, l I've just upgraded to Snow Leopard and, so far, the only app/ peripherals that won't work is the elder of my 2 HP printers. This is an HP960c and HP clearly state that they do not provide a driver for it. Please does anyone know of another driver source, or a solution to the problem? Ken Arnoldi From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 5 13:06:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:06:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer driver In-Reply-To: <34965B4E-AFDC-4CF0-A45C-93BC8A3E5021@virgin.net> References: <34965B4E-AFDC-4CF0-A45C-93BC8A3E5021@virgin.net> Message-ID: <2024500B-AFBE-49C2-B0EE-E53600B72A9A@simonroyal.co.uk> Ken Did it work under Leopard? If so you could always try the Leopard driver. If not have you checked out Gutenprint? Simon On 5 Nov 2009, at 13:04, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > Hello, > l > I've just upgraded to Snow Leopard and, so far, the only app/ > peripherals that won't work is > the elder of my 2 HP printers. This is an HP960c and HP clearly state > that they do not provide a driver > for it. Please does anyone know of another driver source, or a > solution to the problem? > > Ken Arnoldi > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Nov 5 13:14:20 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:14:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A fun way to free up disk space? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF2CFAC.60009@stackyard.org> Yes, well, errr.., as you say, this IS Symantec we're talking about. Scott Matthews wrote: > I read about this the other day, I think it's ridiculous that symantec > have labelled it as a trojan, the 'game' clearly states that it will > delete your files. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Steve Batch wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AM6AN1hTCY >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 5 13:21:43 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:21:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] FlashBlock Message-ID: <7784D378-564E-4B85-B355-4955BA9CFAEA@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. It seems Click To Flash only works for Safari. It doesn't work in Firefox. Check out FlashBlock. It works the same. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433 Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Thu Nov 5 13:36:14 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:36:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Refurb 13" MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D3F665-B128-43B1-B1FD-CF41722B7BF0@virgin.net> I just got a refurb Macbook from there about an hour ago :-) after much budget-driven soul-searching - New Mb/Mb pro? Or much cheaper and slower memory-packed G4 iBook from 2nd Chance? hmmm....what to do? I plumped for a refurb in the end as a good compromise. I think they'd only been up on the site for a short time. Not quite as good a deal as the mb pro but I personally prefer the aluminium case and black keyboard to the all-white look. Finally moving on from Tiger and a desk-bound iMac. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 5 Nov 2009, at 12:29, Paul Durrant wrote: > I was just looking through Apple's refurb site ( http:// > store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals > ), when I saw that they had refurb 2.26GHz 13.3" MacBook Pros for > ?749! > > Since they're currently ?899 new this is a bargain, if you're looking > for a new laptop (& aren't eligible for education discount.) > > If I hadn't got my 15.2" MacBook Pro a short while ago, I'd get one > like a shot. > > http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB990B/A?mco=MTA4MzQ4MDk > > regards, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 5 16:57:32 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:57:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] idisk In-Reply-To: <8F4131C5-4D9C-428F-AC71-160714A01A25@mac.com> References: <8F4131C5-4D9C-428F-AC71-160714A01A25@mac.com> Message-ID: <19FBE1C3-FE10-4DB5-9F5A-7EF3EDCA244B@ntlworld.com> Hi, no she has not, but I did try it on a windows Vista box without downloading the iDisk ie just used the browser and logged in and was able to upload no problem, as I said she has Windows 7 so I don't see any reason why it should not work to though. Kerin On 5 Nov 2009, at 08:59, Min Kennison wrote: > Hi Kerin > > Has your friend downloaded iDisk for windows. > > I send things to the dark side regularly and have had no problems > after the idisk for windows was downloaded by my friend > > Min > On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:454 Nov 2009, Kerin Westgate wrote: > >> Hi, I'm just trying to set up Mobile Me and use the Idisk, we have a >> relative that lives in the states and thought it would be a good way >> to transfer photo's between us, but when I got her to try it last >> night she got a error, all I know is she is running windows 7, has >> anyone else had compatibility problems with windows 7 and idisk? >> >> >> Kerin >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 5 18:28:18 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:28:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] More Preview Goodies Message-ID: <95DB9D36-8EDF-4190-A7B6-6CE0BE304329@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. I love Preview I am finding more and more trinkets everytime I use it. My latest find and I thought others might find it useful is multi-file resize. I have 80 images all the same size but were far too large. I opened them all in Preview, selected them all then under the Tools menu selected Adjust Size and it allowed me to input the new size. Hit OK and off it went. I have been cropping images in Preview lately. It truely is an amazing, underestimated app. Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 5 19:58:36 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:58:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] More Preview Goodies In-Reply-To: <95DB9D36-8EDF-4190-A7B6-6CE0BE304329@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <95DB9D36-8EDF-4190-A7B6-6CE0BE304329@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <696F4016-03A8-4D35-B526-E1EC385FA036@mac.com> Great tip Simon and thanks for that. Maybe a new section on tips for macs could be started? Kelvin From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 5 20:02:06 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:02:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Sections - Was: Re: More Preview Goodies In-Reply-To: <696F4016-03A8-4D35-B526-E1EC385FA036@mac.com> References: <95DB9D36-8EDF-4190-A7B6-6CE0BE304329@simonroyal.co.uk> <696F4016-03A8-4D35-B526-E1EC385FA036@mac.com> Message-ID: <06942255-53C2-494D-AACA-501654097F9A@mac.com> On 5 Nov 2009, at 19:58, Kelvin Youngs wrote: > > Maybe a new section on tips for macs could be started? > Kelvin > If there is a possibility of having new sections (of the email lists or of the website) I have a few ideas... Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From yahooist at anyisle.com Thu Nov 5 22:46:41 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:46:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? Message-ID: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> Hi Guys, Yesterday, I downloaded OpenOffice on to my Leopard iMac G5 and encountered problems - it errored and never opened. I now understand that I was on a loser so I am now trying NeoOffice. Any thoughts Regards... Neil -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 From ghowells at f2s.com Thu Nov 5 22:55:25 2009 From: ghowells at f2s.com (G.Howells) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:55:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> Message-ID: Hi Neil, I tried Open Office but eventually removed it as I became convinced that it was causing conflicts with other programs. It did, however, allow me to open .docx (as opposed to.doc documents) which my older edition of Microsoft Officce for Mac wouldn't do. Best wishes, Gordon. >Hi Guys, > > Yesterday, I downloaded OpenOffice on to my Leopard iMac G5 and >encountered problems - it errored and never opened. I now understand >that I was on a loser so I am now trying NeoOffice. Any thoughts > >Regards... >Neil > >-- >Neil Stevens >Sent from my ? iMac G5 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 5 23:19:44 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:19:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? Message-ID: Neil NeoOffice is Java based and can be very slow. OpenOffice is now osx native. Ive tried both and continue to use OpenOffice. Regards Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) - original message - Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? From: Neil S. Date: 05/11/2009 22:47 Hi Guys, Yesterday, I downloaded OpenOffice on to my Leopard iMac G5 and encountered problems - it errored and never opened. I now understand that I was on a loser so I am now trying NeoOffice. Any thoughts Regards... Neil -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Nov 5 23:48:32 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:48:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> I've never had a problem with OpenOffice, even when it used X. I've not tried NeoOffice. OO is a good cross-platform suite as it has Windows, Mac and Linux versions. What were the errors you encountered? Ken Neil S. wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Yesterday, I downloaded OpenOffice on to my Leopard iMac G5 and > encountered problems - it errored and never opened. I now understand > that I was on a loser so I am now trying NeoOffice. Any thoughts > > Regards... > Neil > > -- > Neil Stevens > Sent from my ? iMac G5 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From karl.hortt at btinternet.com Fri Nov 6 07:17:11 2009 From: karl.hortt at btinternet.com (Karl hortt) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:17:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> Message-ID: I have been using the latest version of OO for the last month, love it, works great and its free !!! Karl On 5 Nov 2009, at 23:48, Ken Hamer wrote: > I've never had a problem with OpenOffice, even when it used X. I've > not > tried NeoOffice. OO is a good cross-platform suite as it has Windows, > Mac and Linux versions. What were the errors you encountered? > > Ken > > Neil S. wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> >> Yesterday, I downloaded OpenOffice on to my Leopard iMac G5 and >> encountered problems - it errored and never opened. I now understand >> that I was on a loser so I am now trying NeoOffice. Any thoughts >> >> Regards... >> Neil >> >> -- >> Neil Stevens >> Sent from my ? iMac G5 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Fri Nov 6 09:35:09 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:35:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer driver In-Reply-To: <2024500B-AFBE-49C2-B0EE-E53600B72A9A@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <34965B4E-AFDC-4CF0-A45C-93BC8A3E5021@virgin.net> <2024500B-AFBE-49C2-B0EE-E53600B72A9A@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Simon, I installed Gutenprint and it didn't work yesterday, but it works OK now! Ken Arnoldi On 5 Nov 2009, at 13:06, Simon Royal wrote: > If not have you checked out Gutenprint? > > Simon From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 6 09:59:18 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:59:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer driver In-Reply-To: References: <34965B4E-AFDC-4CF0-A45C-93BC8A3E5021@virgin.net> <2024500B-AFBE-49C2-B0EE-E53600B72A9A@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <01F030D8-4526-4C5D-A5E9-55E7BCEBF980@durrant.co.uk> It might have just needed a restart to finish installing. regards, Paul On 6 Nov 2009, at 09:35, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > I installed Gutenprint and it didn't work yesterday, but it works OK > now! > > On 5 Nov 2009, at 13:06, Simon Royal wrote: > >> If not have you checked out Gutenprint? From munkt0n at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 11:18:50 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:18:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro Message-ID: I've booked an appointment at the Apple store this Saturday to (hopefully) fix my broken MBP, it's one of the models listed on this page http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377 I've never dealt with Apple returns before, but from past experience with other companies I imagine they'll try to worm their way out of having to repair it. If the worst comes to the worst I'm going to have to splash out on a new laptop - but looking at the new line up I really can't see that much benefit in going for a MacBook Pro compared to a normal MacBook. When I bought mine the main difference seemed to be the GPU with its own dedicated RAM, now the only real apparent difference between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro is a slightly faster CPU, they both seem to use GPUs that use System RAM. Is this correct or am I missing something? Thanks, Scott From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 6 11:51:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:51:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> The 13" MacBook Pro has the following advantages over the 13" MacBook (current models): * Firewire 800 port * SD Card slot * Backlight keyboard * smaller * lighter * supports up to 8GB memory, not 4GB * base model has 250GB vs 160GB hard drive Just the first two are worth the ?100 difference, IMO. But yes, the processor and video are identical as far as I can see. Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you get on! regards, Paul On 6 Nov 2009, at 11:18, Scott Matthews wrote: > I've booked an appointment at the Apple store this Saturday to > (hopefully) fix my broken MBP, it's one of the models listed on this > page http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377 > I've never dealt with Apple returns before, but from past experience > with other companies I imagine they'll try to worm their way out of > having to repair it. > > If the worst comes to the worst I'm going to have to splash out on a > new laptop - but looking at the new line up I really can't see that > much benefit in going for a MacBook Pro compared to a normal MacBook. > When I bought mine the main difference seemed to be the GPU with its > own dedicated RAM, now the only real apparent difference between the > MacBook and the MacBook Pro is a slightly faster CPU, they both seem > to use GPUs that use System RAM. > > Is this correct or am I missing something? > > Thanks, > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From minkennison at mac.com Fri Nov 6 12:26:07 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:26:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> Scott - don't down apple repairs until you'vw tried. I have had nothing but excellent service from them over the years. Min On 6 Nov 2009, at 11:516 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > The 13" MacBook Pro has the following advantages over the 13" MacBook > (current models): > > * Firewire 800 port > * SD Card slot > * Backlight keyboard > * smaller > * lighter > * supports up to 8GB memory, not 4GB > * base model has 250GB vs 160GB hard drive > > Just the first two are worth the ?100 difference, IMO. But yes, the > processor and video are identical as far as I can see. > > > Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you > get on! > > regards, > > Paul > > On 6 Nov 2009, at 11:18, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> I've booked an appointment at the Apple store this Saturday to >> (hopefully) fix my broken MBP, it's one of the models listed on this >> page http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377 >> I've never dealt with Apple returns before, but from past experience >> with other companies I imagine they'll try to worm their way out of >> having to repair it. >> >> If the worst comes to the worst I'm going to have to splash out on a >> new laptop - but looking at the new line up I really can't see that >> much benefit in going for a MacBook Pro compared to a normal MacBook. >> When I bought mine the main difference seemed to be the GPU with its >> own dedicated RAM, now the only real apparent difference between the >> MacBook and the MacBook Pro is a slightly faster CPU, they both seem >> to use GPUs that use System RAM. >> >> Is this correct or am I missing something? >> >> Thanks, >> Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From andrew at acetuk.com Fri Nov 6 13:14:05 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:14:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? Message-ID: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> I was wondering if there is value in some for of 'For Sale' section on the website? For example I am considering buying an older PowerBook to play with and have as a cheap carry-around machine for light tasks and would rather buy from a NMUG member than go to an unknown on ebay. A central place for old equipment up for sale would be a great starting point to see what is about locally. Any thought anyone? Andrew From munkt0n at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 13:21:36 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:21:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> Message-ID: yes, I'm sure it will be fine, I'm just an old cynic! and thanks for the extra info Paul On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Min Kennison wrote: > Scott - don't down apple repairs until you'vw tried. ?I have had > nothing but excellent service from them over the years. > > Min > On 6 Nov 2009, at 11:516 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> The 13" MacBook Pro has the following advantages over the 13" MacBook >> (current models): >> >> * Firewire 800 port >> * SD Card slot >> * Backlight keyboard >> * smaller >> * lighter >> * supports up to 8GB memory, not 4GB >> * base model has 250GB vs 160GB hard drive >> >> Just the first two are worth the ?100 difference, IMO. But yes, the >> processor and video are identical as far as I can see. >> >> >> Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you >> get on! >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 6 Nov 2009, at 11:18, Scott Matthews wrote: >> >>> I've booked an appointment at the Apple store this Saturday to >>> (hopefully) fix my broken MBP, it's one of the models listed on this >>> page http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377 >>> I've never dealt with Apple returns before, but from past experience >>> with other companies I imagine they'll try to worm their way out of >>> having to repair it. >>> >>> If the worst comes to the worst I'm going to have to splash out on a >>> new laptop - but looking at the new line up I really can't see that >>> much benefit in going for a MacBook Pro compared to a normal MacBook. >>> When I bought mine the main difference seemed to be the GPU with its >>> own dedicated RAM, now the only real apparent difference between the >>> MacBook and the MacBook Pro is a slightly faster CPU, they both seem >>> to use GPUs that use System RAM. >>> >>> Is this correct or am I missing something? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Scott >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 6 13:34:49 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:34:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] MacHeist - 6 Apps for free Message-ID: <476DDCEA-9D4C-44F7-9F57-3F7C53827631@durrant.co.uk> MacHeist have done several good bundles of applications in the past, but their current offer is very impressive - on price, anyway. Because this bundle of apps is free. http://www.macheist.com/ Six days left, get the full licences for free. If 500,000 people download, the big app of the bunch gets unlocked - Mariner Write, an interesting word-processor. So - go and get some free applications now! regards, Paul From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 6 13:45:49 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:45:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] MacHeist - 6 Apps for free In-Reply-To: <476DDCEA-9D4C-44F7-9F57-3F7C53827631@durrant.co.uk> References: <476DDCEA-9D4C-44F7-9F57-3F7C53827631@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Just a quick follow-up. The five apps being offered are as follows: ShoveBox - a clippings organizer. Just drag selections of useful info to its icon in the menu bar. WriteRoom - a minimalist word processor, more reminisent of a typewriter than anything else. Good for removing the distractions of a computer. Twitterrific - Twitter application, to simplify use of Twitter TinyGrab - Internet enabled sceenshot application. It uploads the screen shot to tinygrab's server, and leaves a text URL on the clipboard for you to send to someone, or past into a chat window. Hordes of Orcs - defend your tower form the orcs. A fun looking game. MarinerWriter might become available if 500,000 people download the others. If it does become available, everyone who downloaded will have access to it. Hey - a free game, what's not to like? :-) regards, Paul On 6 Nov 2009, at 13:34, Paul Durrant wrote: > Six days left, get the full licences for free. If 500,000 people > download, the big app of the bunch gets unlocked - Mariner Write, an > interesting word-processor. From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 6 13:49:48 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:49:48 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? In-Reply-To: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> Message-ID: <4F634688BB944821B842F7B4C8B8CFB1@PeterPC> Hi Andrew, This is no good for what you are looking for, but I have an eMac up for sale if anyone is interested. The spec is as follows: 1.42 GHz PPC G4 1 GB DDR SDRAM 80 GB HDD 64 MB VRAM Sony CD-RW / DVD-ROM Running OS X 10.4.11 (but no disc). Includes whitw kweyboard and mouse (wired), and original mains lead. All clean and runs well Asking ?60 Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Forde" To: Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? >I was wondering if there is value in some for of 'For Sale' section on > the website? For example I am considering buying an older PowerBook > to play with and have as a cheap carry-around machine for light tasks > and would rather buy from a NMUG member than go to an unknown on ebay. > > A central place for old equipment up for sale would be a great > starting point to see what is about locally. > > Any thought anyone? > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 6 14:59:20 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:59:20 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Windows Media Player Message-ID: Hi all, if anyone is interested, Windows Media Player 9 for Mac OS X is available for free download now (as from October 31st). Peter From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 6 15:00:57 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:00:57 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: <4F634688BB944821B842F7B4C8B8CFB1@PeterPC> References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> <4F634688BB944821B842F7B4C8B8CFB1@PeterPC> Message-ID: Sorry, I forgot the link. From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 15:23:25 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:23:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Website Revamp - Was: Re: Old equipment for sale? In-Reply-To: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> Message-ID: <9C3C695E-60E9-4F38-9465-CE75857E17B5@mac.com> Hi, Andrew. We are currently looking at updating the website with a number of new features. Certainly a 'For Sale' section would be a useful addition. What we would need is someone to administer that section. Any volunteers? Also, could members feed any other ideas they might have for updating and expanding the NMUG website through to me. Thanks Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com On 6 Nov 2009, at 13:14, Andrew Forde wrote: > I was wondering if there is value in some for of 'For Sale' section on > the website? For example I am considering buying an older PowerBook > to play with and have as a cheap carry-around machine for light tasks > and would rather buy from a NMUG member than go to an unknown on ebay. > > A central place for old equipment up for sale would be a great > starting point to see what is about locally. > > Any thought anyone? > > From bazyoungs at mac.com Fri Nov 6 15:38:27 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:38:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> <4F634688BB944821B842F7B4C8B8CFB1@PeterPC> Message-ID: Twice! On 6 Nov 2009, at 15:00, Peter Hunter wrote: > Sorry, I forgot the link. > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 15:38:42 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:38:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> Message-ID: <959F34F3-7881-4B09-9879-D495083A015F@mac.com> On 6 Nov 2009, at 12:26, Min Kennison wrote: > Scott - don't down apple repairs until you'vw tried. I have had > nothing but excellent service from them over the years. Unfortunately my recent experience of the repair workshop at the new Norwich Apple store is not so positive. I suppose we must allow them some 'shakedown' time, but as I am about to make my FIFTH visit there with my MacBook Pro problems still partially unresolved my demeanour will be pleasant! The full story would take about an hour to tell, but suffice it to say I am now on my THIRD logic board to cure firewire interface problems and the Apple Store 'geniuses' have no idea at all why my MBP WiFi is wading through treacle, compared to the Mac Mini sitting next to it on the same network and using the same (external, cloned) drive to boot from. They have now (reluctantly) suggested that I take the MBP back yet again to replace the Airport card. All they keep saying is that the MBP has passed all their automated hardware and software test procedures, so it should be OK. Well, it isn't! Grumble, grumble.... Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From macman at f2s.com Fri Nov 6 15:56:17 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:56:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <959F34F3-7881-4B09-9879-D495083A015F@mac.com> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> <959F34F3-7881-4B09-9879-D495083A015F@mac.com> Message-ID: <7C510F2F-950F-4FA0-BCDA-34D37612A4EC@f2s.com> Probably no help, Richard, but I had a problem earlier this year with what appeared to be a faulty firewire 400 port - one of my external LaCie 400 drives just wouldn't mount, although the lights showed it had power and a connection to the iMac - Tried everything I could think of, and was about to replace the HD in the LaCie when after a lot of searching I came across something on a forum regarding 'constipated' Firewire ports. The advice was to unplug everything inc keyboard, mouse & power cable and leave for a bit to reset the PMU, then boot with just that drive connected - worked immediately and has been fine since, even when daisy chained through another LaCie. Seems to be a fairly common problem, but Apple had no answer to it. Sometimes even the geniuses don't have all the answers .... Robbie On 6 Nov 2009, at 15:38, Richard Nevill wrote: On 6 Nov 2009, at 12:26, Min Kennison wrote: > Scott - don't down apple repairs until you'vw tried. I have had > nothing but excellent service from them over the years. Unfortunately my recent experience of the repair workshop at the new Norwich Apple store is not so positive. I suppose we must allow them some 'shakedown' time, but as I am about to make my FIFTH visit there with my MacBook Pro problems still partially unresolved my demeanour will be pleasant! The full story would take about an hour to tell, but suffice it to say I am now on my THIRD logic board to cure firewire interface problems and the Apple Store 'geniuses' have no idea at all why my MBP WiFi is wading through treacle, compared to the Mac Mini sitting next to it on the same network and using the same (external, cloned) drive to boot from. They have now (reluctantly) suggested that I take the MBP back yet again to replace the Airport card. All they keep saying is that the MBP has passed all their automated hardware and software test procedures, so it should be OK. Well, it isn't! Grumble, grumble.... Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Fri Nov 6 15:57:53 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:57:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment Message-ID: <9E51234D-8675-4B57-807A-24372C5975F5@virgin.net> For disposal (or aquisition?), what a good idea! Ken Arnoldi From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 6 16:01:48 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:01:48 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com><4F634688BB944821B842F7B4C8B8CFB1@PeterPC> Message-ID: <0AFEED4F9A2C4029BFF48707C0DBAFF0@PeterPC> It's an age thing Barry. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=1e974157-5031-4ac6-840a-6e07547b6aeb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Youngs" To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [NMUG] Windows Media Player > Twice! > On 6 Nov 2009, at 15:00, Peter Hunter wrote: > >> Sorry, I forgot the link. >> From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 16:10:29 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:10:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <7C510F2F-950F-4FA0-BCDA-34D37612A4EC@f2s.com> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <88C92ED9-7EE5-4DC7-BB9F-24A9DF150B55@mac.com> <959F34F3-7881-4B09-9879-D495083A015F@mac.com> <7C510F2F-950F-4FA0-BCDA-34D37612A4EC@f2s.com> Message-ID: <60F43338-5D85-4CF1-A841-E8B1C4B6F40E@mac.com> On 6 Nov 2009, at 15:56, Robbie Murray wrote: > The advice was to unplug everything > inc keyboard, mouse & power cable and leave for a bit to reset the > PMU, then boot with just that drive connected Thanks for the suggestion. I came across that potential solution to FireWire constipation some while ago, but it didn't work in my case. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 19:12:31 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:12:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Beginners Course - Website Design Programs Message-ID: <8A9FB181-78A5-4A38-A957-7ED56C41577A@mac.com> The next NMUG ?beginners? course will be on Saturday 14th. November, 10.00 a.m. in the small meeting room at St. Matthews Church, Telegraph Lane West, Thorpe Hamlet, Norwich. This session will be a workshop to explore and review simple Website design programs, for simple websites. They have to be simple so that I can understand them, as me and line after line of code do not get on. We have had a good response from Softpress (Freeway Express and Freeway Pro) and RealMac Software (RapidWeaver), who have donated software for us to look at. They have both kindly agreed to discounts for NMUG members as well. Additionally we will be looking at iWeb, at an open source alternative and at a low cost on-line way of setting up a simple website (even though we will be offline!). To keep the professional web designers happy, I suppose I should also mention HTML hand crafting tools like TextWrangler/BBEdit etc. There - I?ve mentioned them ;-) If there?s anyone out there with a bit of website design package experience who can give me a hand on the day, please get in touch. As usual, could people who hope to come please let me know so that seating and catering arrangements can be made. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From yahooist at anyisle.com Fri Nov 6 19:59:46 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:59:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> Hi Ken, Well, what happens after I have installed it is like this. I open the Open Office app and it fires up X11. Then I get a message that says "Command has timed out" which I "OK" but then nothing more happens. If I quit it, it won't close. I have to Force Close. It's all explained here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=669 . Trouble is the responses are detailing somethings more complex than I really want to get involved in as I have legitimate installs MS Office 2003 and iWorks 09. Have I got too used to application just working? Regards... Neil On 5 Nov 2009, at 23:48, Ken Hamer wrote: > I've never had a problem with OpenOffice, even when it used X. I've > not > tried NeoOffice. OO is a good cross-platform suite as it has Windows, > Mac and Linux versions. What were the errors you encountered? > > Ken -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Fri Nov 6 20:16:54 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Beginners Course - Website Design Programs In-Reply-To: <8A9FB181-78A5-4A38-A957-7ED56C41577A@mac.com> References: <8A9FB181-78A5-4A38-A957-7ED56C41577A@mac.com> Message-ID: Dear Richard Please can we run this one again (& the iphoto!) as I'm in Paris on the 14th. Sorry, work beckons first!! Its a hard life!! BUT seriously I would love to attend. Best regrds Jules On 11/6/09, Richard Nevill wrote: > The next NMUG ?beginners? course will be on Saturday 14th. November, > 10.00 a.m. in the small meeting room at St. Matthews Church, Telegraph > Lane West, Thorpe Hamlet, Norwich. > > This session will be a workshop to explore and review simple Website > design programs, for simple websites. They have to be simple so that I > can understand them, as me and line after line of code do not get on. > > We have had a good response from Softpress (Freeway Express and > Freeway Pro) and RealMac Software (RapidWeaver), who have donated > software for us to look at. > They have both kindly agreed to discounts for NMUG members as well. > > Additionally we will be looking at iWeb, at an open source alternative > and at a low cost on-line way of setting up a simple website (even > though we will be offline!). > > To keep the professional web designers happy, I suppose I should also > mention HTML hand crafting tools like TextWrangler/BBEdit etc. > There - I?ve mentioned them ;-) > > If there?s anyone out there with a bit of website design package > experience who can give me a hand on the day, please get in touch. > > As usual, could people who hope to come please let me know so that > seating and catering arrangements can be made. > > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 20:28:14 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:28:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> I'm not absolutely sure, but it may be possible that you don't need an X11 version of OOo for a PPC Mac now. I think this build might be your answer: http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg On 6 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Ken, > > Well, what happens after I have installed it is like this. I open the > Open Office app and it fires up X11. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From yahooist at anyisle.com Fri Nov 6 20:44:17 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:44:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> Message-ID: <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> Thanks Richard, From where does this come and what's its pedigree? I guess it is someone else's port of Open Office? Regards... Neil On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Richard Nevill wrote: > I'm not absolutely sure, but it may be possible that you don't need an > X11 version of OOo for a PPC Mac now. > > I think this build might be your answer: > > http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg > -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 20:56:43 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:56:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> Message-ID: It's an Open Office org release candidate, but they seem to be a bit tardy finalising it. See: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html - the link on that page to the current discussions about it makes mud seem positively transparent! Richard. On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:44, Neil S. wrote: > Thanks Richard, > > From where does this come and what's its pedigree? I guess it is > someone else's port of Open Office? > > Regards... > Neil > > > On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Richard Nevill wrote: > >> I'm not absolutely sure, but it may be possible that you don't need >> an >> X11 version of OOo for a PPC Mac now. >> >> I think this build might be your answer: >> >> http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg >> > > -- > Neil Stevens > Sent from my ? iMac G5 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 21:03:21 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:03:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> Message-ID: On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:56, Richard Nevill wrote: > It's an Open Office org release candidate, but they seem to be a bit > tardy finalising it. > > See: > > http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html > > - the link on that page to the current discussions about it makes mud > seem positively transparent! > > Richard. I'll re-word that last bit - 'There's a link on that page to a discussion about it which makes mud ..... ' That'll learn me not to sling it around quite so liberally! Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From yahooist at anyisle.com Fri Nov 6 21:07:28 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:07:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> Message-ID: Hi Richard, It looks good. I could only see 2.4.2 on their web site which made me think they had drpped the PPC. Please excuse a question before I have gone looking myself, but is this US English version and, if so, does it have a UK English add-on? Regards... Neil On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:56, Richard Nevill wrote: > It's an Open Office org release candidate, but they seem to be a bit > tardy finalising it. > > See: > > http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua-PPC.html > > - the link on that page to the current discussions about it makes mud > seem positively transparent! > > Richard. > > > On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:44, Neil S. wrote: > >> Thanks Richard, >> >> From where does this come and what's its pedigree? I guess it is >> someone else's port of Open Office? >> >> Regards... >> Neil >> >> >> On 6 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Richard Nevill wrote: >> >>> I'm not absolutely sure, but it may be possible that you don't need >>> an >>> X11 version of OOo for a PPC Mac now. >>> >>> I think this build might be your answer: >>> >>> http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg >>> >> >> -- >> Neil Stevens >> Sent from my ? iMac G5 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 From andrew at acetuk.com Fri Nov 6 21:15:23 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:15:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? Message-ID: Peter. What size screen is the eMac running at? Also is there an airport card installed? It could be of interest as a desktop machine for my office. Thanks, Andrew Sent from my iPhone From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 6 21:14:13 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:14:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: References: <3461F5DD-3A0E-4869-A87B-1109B7E112E0@anyisle.com> <4AF36450.3010409@stackyard.org> <1ECCA9A4-0D24-4BFD-A7CE-27818497FB3E@anyisle.com> <4ADF9AD0-9745-4249-A1F4-407BFB8CB8EF@mac.com> <9E6D1390-8EBE-4466-AE3E-0331C235D12A@anyisle.com> Message-ID: On 6 Nov 2009, at 21:07, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Richard, > > It looks good. I could only see 2.4.2 on their web site which made me > think they had drpped the PPC. > > Please excuse a question before I have gone looking myself, but is > this US English version and, if so, does it have a UK English add-on? > Pass - it costs nowt so why not d'l it and give it a test drive? Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 6 23:22:13 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:22:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? Message-ID: Hi OpenOffice used to run under X11 but now it is in alpha version native in OSX. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) - original message - Subject: Re: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? From: Richard Nevill Date: 06/11/2009 20:28 I'm not absolutely sure, but it may be possible that you don't need an X11 version of OOo for a PPC Mac now. I think this build might be your answer: http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/3.1.1rc2_20090827/OOo_3.1.1rc2_20090827_MacOSXPowerPC_install.dmg On 6 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Ken, > > Well, what happens after I have installed it is like this. I open the > Open Office app and it fires up X11. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allanmacam at me.com Fri Nov 6 23:25:02 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:25:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenOffice No; NeoOffice Yes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14BAD30B-9080-405D-A7D4-0A978C56A69A@me.com> On 6 Nov 2009, at 23:22, Simon Royal wrote: > OpenOffice used to run under X11 but now it is in alpha version > native in OSX. Get the improved build from http://go-oo.org/discover/. AJ From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 7 00:45:17 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:45:17 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andrew, The screen is 17", resolution is 1280 x 960 @72 Hz. No airport fitted, does have Ethernet and firewire 400 if that's any help. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Forde" To: Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: [NMUG] Old equipment for sale? > Peter. > > What size screen is the eMac running at? Also is there an airport card > installed? It could be of interest as a desktop machine for my office. > > Thanks, > Andrew > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From allanmacam at me.com Sat Nov 7 00:50:12 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:50:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Pictures of the new Apple store in Paris Message-ID: http://gallery.me.com/ifoman#100224&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=9 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 7 16:39:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Nov 2009 16:39:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quicksilver Problem Message-ID: Hi. A friend has a G4 Quicksilver 733Mhz tower running Tiger. Everytime she boots it up, the DVD drawer opens. Any ideas on how to stop it. I have been into StartUp Disc and selected the hard drive as default boot device, but it makes no difference. There is no other OS or bootable drives on the machine. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Nov 7 16:47:09 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:47:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quicksilver Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is it possible that something connected is imitating a mouse down event? I'd try starting up with no USB devices attached and see if it still does it. (If you hold the mouse button down on start-up, the optical disk (or floppy!) should eject.) regards, Paul PS And why isn't your friend on the NMUG mailing list? :-) On 7 Nov 2009, at 16:39, Simon Royal wrote: > > A friend has a G4 Quicksilver 733Mhz tower running Tiger. > > Everytime she boots it up, the DVD drawer opens. Any ideas on how to > stop > it. > > I have been into StartUp Disc and selected the hard drive as default > boot > device, but it makes no difference. There is no other OS or bootable > drives > on the machine. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 7 17:09:06 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Nov 2009 17:09:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Quicksilver Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Because I am her Mac technician. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) On Nov 7 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: Is it possible that something connected is imitating a mouse down event? I'd try starting up with no USB devices attached and see if it still does it. (If you hold the mouse button down on start-up, the optical disk (or floppy!) should eject.) regards, Paul PS And why isn't your friend on the NMUG mailing list? :-) On 7 Nov 2009, at 16:39, Simon Royal wrote: > > A friend has a G4 Quicksilver 733Mhz tower running Tiger. > > Everytime she boots it up, the DVD drawer opens. Any ideas on how to > stop > it. > > I have been into StartUp Disc and selected the hard drive as default > boot > device, but it makes no difference. There is no other OS or bootable > drives > on the machine. _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 7 17:10:40 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Nov 2009 17:10:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Website Revamp - Was: Re: Old equipment for sale? In-Reply-To: <9C3C695E-60E9-4F38-9465-CE75857E17B5@mac.com> References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> <9C3C695E-60E9-4F38-9465-CE75857E17B5@mac.com> Message-ID: Richard I'll volunteer to maintain the for sale section as I maintain the rest of the site. Please keep me in the loop with other peoples ideas. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5) On Nov 6 2009, Richard Nevill wrote: Hi, Andrew. We are currently looking at updating the website with a number of new features. Certainly a 'For Sale' section would be a useful addition. What we would need is someone to administer that section. Any volunteers? Also, could members feed any other ideas they might have for updating and expanding the NMUG website through to me. Thanks Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com On 6 Nov 2009, at 13:14, Andrew Forde wrote: > I was wondering if there is value in some for of 'For Sale' section on > the website? For example I am considering buying an older PowerBook > to play with and have as a cheap carry-around machine for light tasks > and would rather buy from a NMUG member than go to an unknown on ebay. > > A central place for old equipment up for sale would be a great > starting point to see what is about locally. > > Any thought anyone? > > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 7 17:21:07 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:21:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Website Revamp - Was: Re: Old equipment for sale? In-Reply-To: References: <39B35D3A-9C3B-465E-A15B-A77BF6D05858@acetuk.com> <9C3C695E-60E9-4F38-9465-CE75857E17B5@mac.com> Message-ID: On 7 Nov 2009, at 17:10, Simon Royal wrote: > I'll volunteer to maintain the for sale section as I maintain the > rest of > the site. Thanks Simon > Please keep me in the loop with other peoples ideas. Certainly will do - don't expect anything for a week or so though. Could people keep the ideas coming through - we've had a couple of thoughts, but the more the merrier. We might not implement every idea, but each idea helps us to get a better picture of what you want from your club's website. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From minkennison at mac.com Sun Nov 8 08:41:58 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:41:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Beginners Course - Website Design Programs References: <8A9FB181-78A5-4A38-A957-7ED56C41577A@mac.com> Message-ID: <70C0B7AF-3561-48D0-9ED9-811EB2293C56@mac.com> > Hi Richard I hope to be with you next weekend Min > . > > As usual, could people who hope to come please let me know so that > seating and catering arrangements can be made. > > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From swimwire at googlemail.com Sun Nov 8 13:38:25 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:38:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens Message-ID: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> Hello NMUGgers, I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how I survived without one! It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? Thanks! Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 13:46:02 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:46:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens In-Reply-To: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> References: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Here are Apple's (terse) instructions: http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/care/ Personally, I use one of these, very carefully: http://www.e-cloth.com/how-to-use/ On 8 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello NMUGgers, > > I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - > it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how > I survived without one! > > It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would > you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? > > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 8 13:49:19 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:49:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens In-Reply-To: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> References: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9E5F48E8-A160-4D64-9904-4F43C67EB6D2@durrant.co.uk> http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/care/ "Cleaning Your MacBook Display Follow these general rules when cleaning the screen. * Shut down your MacBook, detach the power adapter, and remove the battery. * Dampen a clean, soft, lint-free cloth or paper with water only and wipe the screen. Do not spray liquid directly on the screen." Personally, I'd say that shutting down, etc is a bit of over-kill. So long as your cloth or paper is only damp, and won't drip (even when pressed against the screen), you should have no problems. regards, Paul On 8 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello NMUGgers, > > I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - > it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how > I survived without one! > > It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would > you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? > > > From mail at edmarlodge.co.uk Sun Nov 8 14:23:45 2009 From: mail at edmarlodge.co.uk (Raymond Paine) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:23:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DVD Drawer Message-ID: <0040B681-6869-419D-A358-9CB078B75C63@edmarlodge.co.uk> Hi Simon, If your friend has a wireless mouse this could be the problem. The same thing happens with my G5 Mac Pro tower. I have a wireless mouse installed. Ray From richardivers at mac.com Sun Nov 8 15:17:51 2009 From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:17:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Tech Tool Message-ID: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> Since I upgraded to Snow Leopard (this am) I am getting the following "Tech Tool Protection Alert" The volume "Time Machine Backups" has 3% free space remaining. The volume usage threshold is configured in the techTool protection system preferences. I think I came across this when i installed Techtool pro but i can't remember how I sorted the problem. Richard Ivers From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 8 15:29:09 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:29:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Tech Tool In-Reply-To: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> References: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> Message-ID: <05893DE8-BA04-46EF-B67E-AC01A031EDD7@gmail.com> Richard If you would open system prefs, on the bottom line you will see TechTool. Click on to open it's preferences and the first item on the top left is Volume Usage. Make your alterations there and while you're at it click the small window that asks if you want the icon to show in your menu bar! On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:17, Richard Ivers wrote: i can't remember how I sorted the problem. Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From richardivers at mac.com Sun Nov 8 15:41:46 2009 From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:41:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Tech Tool In-Reply-To: <05893DE8-BA04-46EF-B67E-AC01A031EDD7@gmail.com> References: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> <05893DE8-BA04-46EF-B67E-AC01A031EDD7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Did that , the window says Protection features are disabled and inactive Richard On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:29, Richard Stewart wrote: > Richard > If you would open system prefs, on the bottom line you will see > TechTool. Click on to open it's preferences and the first item on the > top left is Volume Usage. Make your alterations there and while you're > at it click the small window that asks if you want the icon to show in > your menu bar! > On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:17, Richard Ivers wrote: > > i can't remember how I sorted the problem. > > Richard Stewart > rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 8 15:42:52 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:42:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens Message-ID: Hi I have always used baby wires, but they do leave the screen a little streaky. You can get monitor wipes which are not so wet and dont leave it streaky. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia E65) - original message - Subject: Re: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens From: Paul Durrant Date: 08/11/2009 13:49 http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/care/ "Cleaning Your MacBook Display Follow these general rules when cleaning the screen. * Shut down your MacBook, detach the power adapter, and remove the battery. * Dampen a clean, soft, lint-free cloth or paper with water only and wipe the screen. Do not spray liquid directly on the screen." Personally, I'd say that shutting down, etc is a bit of over-kill. So long as your cloth or paper is only damp, and won't drip (even when pressed against the screen), you should have no problems. regards, Paul On 8 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello NMUGgers, > > I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - > it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how > I survived without one! > > It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would > you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? > > > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 15:50:13 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E893DD0-049B-4D1D-B5F6-03B37F39EE99@mac.com> On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:42, Simon Royal wrote: > I have always used baby wires, but they do leave the screen a little > streaky. Well they would, wouldn't they. The baby's little face must have been a picture the first time they were used, as well! :-) :-) :-) Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From allanmacam at me.com Sun Nov 8 15:52:02 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:52:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens In-Reply-To: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> References: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <56D67186-C23C-4C07-94ED-17FCA9384C71@me.com> On a tip from a Mac Authorised dealer, I used the clear Windolene on all our laptop and cinema display screens. Worked very well. Unfortunately, the clear type now seems difficult to get so I now use OmniCleanz. Expensive but does an absolutely brilliant job. AJ On 8 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello NMUGgers, > > I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - > it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how > I survived without one! > > It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would > you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? > > Thanks! > > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Sun Nov 8 17:26:05 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:26:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Cleaning MacBook Screens In-Reply-To: <56D67186-C23C-4C07-94ED-17FCA9384C71@me.com> References: <49FC5E20-15F3-4A60-A9B7-31ABA90C6CE2@googlemail.com> <56D67186-C23C-4C07-94ED-17FCA9384C71@me.com> Message-ID: <3D9F05B1-6E79-40A7-A6E0-B8651144F31D@btinternet.com> and I use the expensive but brilliant iklear comes as package with wipes and small cloths for when travelling with laptop, spray and larger cloth for the 24" - oh I wish Heather On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:52, Allan wrote: > On a tip from a Mac Authorised dealer, I used the clear Windolene on > all our laptop and cinema display screens. Worked very well. > Unfortunately, the clear type now seems difficult to get so I now use > OmniCleanz. Expensive but does an absolutely brilliant job. > > AJ > > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > >> Hello NMUGgers, >> >> I have bought a MacBook from the Apple store a couple of weeks ago - >> it's fantastic. Being previously a Windows user, I now don't know how >> I survived without one! >> >> It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would >> you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Jack Webb-Heller >> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From munkt0n at gmail.com Sun Nov 8 17:30:35 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:30:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Paul Durrant wrote: > Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you > get on! > > regards, > > Paul > wow, I'm impressed. I took my MBP to the Apple store at 11.40 on Saturday, they plugged it into an external hard disk and booted a diagnostics program, which failed, so they agreed to repair it. I was told it would take 3 to 5 days, but I received a call at 4pm Sunday telling me the repairs are all done and all tests passed! They gave me a receipt showing that this would have cost over ?700 to repair if it was out of warranty - a brand new logic board and something else with a part # of S1491LL/A My MacBook Pro feels brand new! From alanbarber at mac.com Sun Nov 8 18:01:04 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:01:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting Message-ID: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> I'm afraid we cannot have our usual meeting room at the Quebec on the 25th November. They have a large party booked. Do we find another venue or another night at the Quebec? Regards Alan From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 8 18:04:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:04:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the followup. I can only think that they have in-house technicians at the ApplesStore, as they can't have had time to send it away anywhere. regards Paul On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: > > wow, I'm impressed. > I took my MBP to the Apple store at 11.40 on Saturday, they plugged it > into an external hard disk and booted a diagnostics program, which > failed, so they agreed to repair it. I was told it would take 3 to 5 > days, but I received a call at 4pm Sunday telling me the repairs are > all done and all tests passed! > > They gave me a receipt showing that this would have cost over ?700 to > repair if it was out of warranty - a brand new logic board and > something else with a part # of S1491LL/A > > My MacBook Pro feels brand new! From andrew at acetuk.com Sun Nov 8 18:11:11 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:11:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] idisk Message-ID: Personally I wouldn't use iDisk for this. Investigate dropbox.com where a free account gets you 2gb of free space to store items in the cloud. This plugs in to finder as a standard looking location and in here you can create folders for sharing. Dropbox in my experience is far superior for storing files than iDisk. And it's far quicker. Sent from my iPhone From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 18:13:25 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:13:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Well lucky you! (Grumble - still waiting for mine to be done) Just to tone down your euphoria a bit, there have been reports that Apple sometimes fit refurbished parts when doing a repair, so your logic board may not be brand new - it might even be one of my old 'duff' ones! The ?700 would be the retail cost of supplying and fitting a brand new logic board, but I suspect their actual internal cost would be considerably lower. Part # S1491LL/A is the labour element of the job. Do check all aspects of your machine - the tests they do don't tell the whole story about the health of your machine. On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Paul Durrant > wrote: >> Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you >> get on! >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> > > wow, I'm impressed. > I took my MBP to the Apple store at 11.40 on Saturday, they plugged it > into an external hard disk and booted a diagnostics program, which > failed, so they agreed to repair it. I was told it would take 3 to 5 > days, but I received a call at 4pm Sunday telling me the repairs are > all done and all tests passed! > > They gave me a receipt showing that this would have cost over ?700 to > repair if it was out of warranty - a brand new logic board and > something else with a part # of S1491LL/A > > My MacBook Pro feels brand new! Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 18:15:02 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:15:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <44562CCF-C873-4686-BAA6-BFAF890532D4@mac.com> They do - I am on first name terms with them now. But I might be on surname only terms soon }:-( On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:04, Paul Durrant wrote: > I can only think that they have in-house > technicians at the ApplesStore Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sun Nov 8 18:16:10 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:16:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <44562CCF-C873-4686-BAA6-BFAF890532D4@mac.com> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <44562CCF-C873-4686-BAA6-BFAF890532D4@mac.com> Message-ID: <50C83CD1-2EAA-47DC-B889-04EB46E1C456@zen.co.uk> Problems? Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:15, Richard Nevill wrote: > They do - I am on first name terms with them now. > > But I might be on surname only terms soon }:-( > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:04, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> I can only think that they have in-house >> technicians at the ApplesStore > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 18:26:11 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:26:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <50C83CD1-2EAA-47DC-B889-04EB46E1C456@zen.co.uk> References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> <44562CCF-C873-4686-BAA6-BFAF890532D4@mac.com> <50C83CD1-2EAA-47DC-B889-04EB46E1C456@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <9D2DFE04-A8D4-4FB5-9DC9-D78763E7D8F3@mac.com> I had a grumble about my MBP problems on Friday - see: http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/022999.html On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:16, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Problems? > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:15, Richard Nevill wrote: > >> They do - I am on first name terms with them now. >> >> But I might be on surname only terms soon }:-( Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From andrew at acetuk.com Sun Nov 8 18:26:22 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:26:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting Message-ID: <1FF0EF32-8FFD-4472-860A-0915682AB1D3@me.com> Either suits me. As I am not from from Norwich I cannot comment on venues so I do not know how easy it is or how much it costs to book somewhere. The date for me is also very flexible. The time though seems a good fit. As a thought has anyone approached the new Apple Store to see if they would be interested to support us? It doesn't seem to be unusual for the local Apple Store to offer space to hold meetings as it can help drive them sales. Or may be they can give some support in another way? Freebies! :) Sent from my iPhone From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 8 19:46:02 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:46:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <1FF0EF32-8FFD-4472-860A-0915682AB1D3@me.com> References: <1FF0EF32-8FFD-4472-860A-0915682AB1D3@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:26, Andrew Forde wrote: > As a thought has anyone approached the new Apple Store to see if they > would be interested to support us? Guess who made contact on opening day, had promises for action given and has had further promises with no concrete response ever since?!!! A letter to Infinite Loop, Cupertino, may well be in order! Even more grumbles! (Must be an age thing). Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 8 20:40:54 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:40:54 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] screen clean Message-ID: > > > It has some nasty fingerprints on, and I'm just wondering: what would > > you recommend would be best to clean a MacBook screen with? > > > i have used those dampened spec cleaner sachets for years... the ones sealed in plastic sachets.. 100 for about half nothing From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 8 21:03:01 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:03:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Tech Tool In-Reply-To: References: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> <05893DE8-BA04-46EF-B67E-AC01A031EDD7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3639B7B4-25FF-44AE-87D3-CB5F78731A71@gmail.com> Sorry for the delay Richard. On the left, next to the script saying disabled etc should be a small window -says RUN, click it, that will activate, then specify the conditions, i.e. % ages, try altering the specs and see if that effects a cure. Failing that, try opening the TechTool App. and click help On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:41, Richard Ivers wrote: Protection features are disabled and inactive Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From richardivers at mac.com Sun Nov 8 21:17:43 2009 From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:17:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Tech Tool In-Reply-To: <3639B7B4-25FF-44AE-87D3-CB5F78731A71@gmail.com> References: <4D5F10D0-E0DF-4AB5-9358-236B0BE28163@mac.com> <05893DE8-BA04-46EF-B67E-AC01A031EDD7@gmail.com> <3639B7B4-25FF-44AE-87D3-CB5F78731A71@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5CBE2B1C-1414-4EE5-8040-B7D6A41AF1F6@mac.com> Thanks for he suggestions, tried that, did nothing, went to the forum, tried what it said there, that didn't work but when I did a restart everything seems to be back to normal. Thanks Richard On 8 Nov 2009, at 21:03, Richard Stewart wrote: > Sorry for the delay Richard. On the left, next to the script saying > disabled etc should be a small window -says RUN, click it, that will > activate, then specify the conditions, i.e. % ages, try altering the > specs and see if that effects a cure. Failing that, try opening the > TechTool App. and click help > On 8 Nov 2009, at 15:41, Richard Ivers wrote: > > Protection features are disabled and inactive > > Richard Stewart > rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 9 07:56:56 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:56:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <9D2DFE04-A8D4-4FB5-9DC9-D78763E7D8F3@mac.com> Message-ID: <11384.47209.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac until 6 weeks ago,?Give them time! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Richard Nevill wrote: From: Richard Nevill Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:26 I had a grumble about my MBP problems on Friday - see: http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/022999.html On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:16, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Problems? > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:15, Richard Nevill wrote: > >> They do - I am on first name terms with them now. >> >> But I might be on surname only terms soon }:-( Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 9 07:59:00 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:59:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <433905.7312.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> All parts they fit are referbs, they take your old part and sent it off to China, even if it can be fixed in store, The carbon foot print is a bit of a worry Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Richard Nevill wrote: From: Richard Nevill Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 18:13 Well lucky you! (Grumble - still waiting for mine to be done) Just to tone down your euphoria a bit, there have been reports that? Apple sometimes fit refurbished parts when doing a repair, so your? logic board may not be brand new - it might even be one of my old? 'duff' ones! The ?700 would be the retail cost of supplying and fitting a brand new? logic board, but I suspect their actual internal cost would be? considerably lower. Part # S1491LL/A is the labour element of the job. Do check all aspects of your machine - the tests they do don't tell? the whole story about the health of your machine. On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Paul Durrant ? > wrote: >> Hopefully Apple with fix your current machine. Do let us know how you >> get on! >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> > > wow, I'm impressed. > I took my MBP to the Apple store at 11.40 on Saturday, they plugged it > into an external hard disk and booted a diagnostics program, which > failed, so they agreed to repair it. I was told it would take 3 to 5 > days, but I received a call at 4pm Sunday telling me the repairs are > all done and all tests passed! > > They gave me a receipt showing that this would have cost over ?700 to > repair if it was out of warranty - a brand new logic board and > something else with a part # of S1491LL/A > > My MacBook Pro feels brand new! Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jill at 2js.org Mon Nov 9 08:52:28 2009 From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:52:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] cleaning cloths Message-ID: Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? Jill From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 9 09:10:24 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:10:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] cleaning cloths In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5909B12B-1CA8-45A5-88C5-E14B41CA3760@mac.com> On 9 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Jill Searle wrote: > Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an > 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? > 'e-cloth' is the brand name of a particular manufacturer of microfibre cloths. Yes, the little black cloth is a microfibre cloth, but I would think it's small size would make it difficult to use for a proper screen clean. I suspect Apple have included it as a value-added sop to the high proportion of us Apple afficionados who compulsively flick the dust off our machines. I find the larger size of the commercial microfibre cloths makes it easier to clean my (17") screen. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 9 09:11:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:11:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> Message-ID: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say the Tuesday or the Thursday. I know this means that some regular attendees might not be able to attend because of other commitments, but equally, some who are unable to attend onWednesdays might be able to come along. I've been very happy with the Quebec as a meeting place - not too noisy, comfortable, and drinks are available. Free helps too! What do others think? regards, Paul On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:01, Alan Barber wrote: > I'm afraid we cannot have our usual meeting room at the Quebec on the > 25th November. > They have a large party booked. > Do we find another venue or another night at the Quebec? From penguinsplj at me.com Mon Nov 9 09:21:28 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:21:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: On Nov 9, 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say > the Tuesday or the Thursday. > What do others think? That seems OK with me. Alan, do we know if the Tuesday or Thursday either side of our usual night are available? Paul C From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 9 09:25:32 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:25:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <11384.47209.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <11384.47209.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5F765606-D0E1-4D90-A66D-FA1472265C8C@mac.com> On 9 Nov 2009, at 07:56, joe butler wrote: > None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac > until 6 weeks ago, But that doesn't explain why they called me back three times to pick up a machine which still didn't work properly! Thoroughness and attention to detail are servicing virtues which should be inculcated during the training phase. There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the overall length of stay in the workshop. > Give them time! I did - it was FOUR WEEKS ago I took my MBP into the Norwich Apple Store! > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Richard Nevill wrote: > > I had a grumble about my MBP problems on Friday - see: > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/022999.html > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From minkennison at mac.com Mon Nov 9 09:23:13 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:23:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: References: <84B76D7E-9787-4669-8701-532C7960C96F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <76989152-1943-41ED-B308-CF5AC08F8138@mac.com> I agree with you entirely Paul. This was the sped that my MBP was repaired at the Cambridge Apple store. Diagnosis and repair in under 4 hours. Min On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:048 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > Thanks for the followup. I can only think that they have in-house > technicians at the ApplesStore, as they can't have had time to send it > away anywhere. > > regards > > Paul > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 9 09:39:02 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:39:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro In-Reply-To: <5F765606-D0E1-4D90-A66D-FA1472265C8C@mac.com> References: <11384.47209.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <5F765606-D0E1-4D90-A66D-FA1472265C8C@mac.com> Message-ID: <71361F68-FD66-47E4-BD98-253966AF7EFF@durrant.co.uk> This does sound bad. I guess it's the case that if your problem is obvious (dead hard drive, say) or a known problem (bad video chip), it can be fixed quickly. But if it's a tricky problem, which hasn't happened enough to be in their database of problems, the inexperience of the new technicians at the store will become more evident. From the sound of things their system could do with a little tweaking too. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad time. Fifth time the charm? Do let us know how it goes. regards, Paul On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:25, Richard Nevill wrote: > There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new > ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to > the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the > symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in > translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears > to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only > when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the > overall length of stay in the workshop. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 9 09:43:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:43:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DVD Drawer In-Reply-To: <0040B681-6869-419D-A358-9CB078B75C63@edmarlodge.co.uk> References: <0040B681-6869-419D-A358-9CB078B75C63@edmarlodge.co.uk> Message-ID: <0152F806-D618-44C0-B0B1-A85847936347@simonroyal.co.uk> Raymond No. She has a cheap USB mouse. It never used to do it. She had some problems on it a few weeks ago. So I tried to boot from the Tiger DVD and the drive just wouldn't pick it up. Luckily, I have the Tiger installer restored to my iPod, so I booted off that. I then ran Disk Utility, the disc had some errors, which were repaired. I then selected the hard drive ass the start up disc and rebooted. Now everytime the machine boots, it pops open the DVD drawer. Simon On 8 Nov 2009, at 14:23, Raymond Paine wrote: > Hi Simon, > > If your friend has a wireless mouse this could be the problem. > The same thing happens with my G5 Mac Pro tower. I have a > wireless mouse installed. > > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Nov 9 12:20:36 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:20:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <901C77FC-DA1B-4B15-B8C4-5A04043D2D7C@themagic.me.uk> Happy to move an evening this time. Anthony On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say > the Tuesday or the Thursday. > > I know this means that some regular attendees might not be able to > attend because of other commitments, but equally, some who are unable > to attend onWednesdays might be able to come along. > > I've been very happy with the Quebec as a meeting place - not too > noisy, comfortable, and drinks are available. Free helps too! > > What do others think? > > regards, > > Paul > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:01, Alan Barber wrote: > >> I'm afraid we cannot have our usual meeting room at the Quebec on the >> 25th November. >> They have a large party booked. >> Do we find another venue or another night at the Quebec? > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 9 12:31:54 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:31:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <919A85E0-4905-4FE2-85AA-687AEF3905D7@mac.com> On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say > the Tuesday or the Thursday. Either is fine for me - if the Quebec can take us those nights. The only problem I can foresee is if we have a further surge in attendees - the room was getting rather crowded at the October meeting. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 14:25:10 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:25:10 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Apple repairs Message-ID: "Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro To: Norwich Mac User Group list None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac until 6 weeks ago,?" This is patently untrue. Some have worked for Apple for years. They also have access to a worldwide comprehensive problems and fixes database which is possibly even more useful than several years fiddling around at the major component replacement level which is as deep as most independent Apple product fixers ever get. I never yet met a fixer who routinely diagnoses down to chip level on a logic board. I think Apple is making a serious and professional effort to push device repair out closer to the customer, which to me should represent a major improvement in responsiveness. Mind you, Apple Care previously was a high class operation: a courier would arrive at your door the same day you reported a problem, would take away your machine without you having to pack it up, and the next day you'd get a phone report and, sometimes, the following the day, the return of your machine. I never got that with anything else I owned. We're reaping the benefit of choosing a first class manufacturer. They aren't perfect, but neither are many circles. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 14:31:59 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:31:59 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Carbon footprints in the sand Message-ID: " Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro To: Norwich Mac User Group list All parts they fit are referbs, they take your old part and sent it off to China, even if it can be fixed in store, The carbon foot print is a bit of a worry" Don't even think about it.You will get more benefit worrying about how many angels will fall off the head of a pin. Carbon footprints are irrelevant 'measures'. Anyone interested in the science of this can email me offline -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From alanbarber at mac.com Mon Nov 9 14:44:33 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:44:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] meeting Message-ID: The landlord of the Quebec - Felix - is on his hols at the moment. The barmaid said she would contact him and see if it is ok for the Tues or Thurs. Will let you know when I hear. Regards Alan From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Nov 9 14:44:42 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:44:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Carbon footprints in the sand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <939DF8A4-79DD-40BA-BCDC-C2086E206FDB@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> On 9 Nov 2009, at 14:31, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Anyone interested in the science of this can email me offline What like, by sending a letter? ;) -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Nov 9 15:38:31 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:38:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thea has just contacted the UES IT helpdesk about using her laptop wirelessly in the library there, only to be told "We don't support the Mac OS" The cribsheet they issue only mentions Windows too. As it happens the mac is perfectly at home there and did it all by itself seamlessly, but the attitude is bizarrely out of date and restrictive. Especially as so many of their science and music students and staff will actively prefer Macs. Do you think there's any mileage in prompting Apple to offer some training to the UEA IT dept now we have a local store with geniuses? It would after all improve the UEA staff's future employability, unless of course they intend to spend the rest of their lives in denial! And naturally it would do no harm to Apple's prospects. Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From therealcazorla at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 9 15:59:01 2009 From: therealcazorla at yahoo.co.uk (julia cazorla) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:59:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> How do you unsubscibe from the NMUG? Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... Best, Julia ? Once you have pure and sincere motivation, all the rest follows.? You can develop this right attitude toward others on the basis of kindness, love and respect, and on the clear realisation of the oneness of all human beings.? This is important because others benefit by this motivation as much as by anything we do. Then, with a pure heart, you can carry on any work....and your profession becomes a real instrument to help the community. Dalai Lama - Insights on Daily Living, Compassion and Justice. ________________________________ From: David Van Edwards To: Norwich Mac User Group list Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 15:38:31 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS Thea has just contacted the UES IT helpdesk about using her laptop wirelessly in the library there, only to be told "We don't support the Mac OS" The cribsheet they issue only mentions Windows too. As it happens the mac is perfectly at home there and did it all by itself seamlessly, but the attitude is bizarrely out of date and restrictive. Especially as so many of their science and music students and staff will actively prefer Macs. Do you think there's any mileage in prompting Apple to offer some training to the UEA IT dept now we have a local store with geniuses? It would after all improve the UEA staff's future employability, unless of course they intend to spend the rest of their lives in denial! And naturally it would do no harm to Apple's prospects. Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich,? NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Nov 9 16:04:55 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:04:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9 Nov 2009, at 15:59, julia cazorla wrote: > How do you unsubscibe from the NMUG? > > Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... As has been mentioned many times before, there are links at the bottom of every email that you get telling you how to unsubscribe. Follow these, then follow the instructions on the page that is displayed to unsubscribe. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Nov 9 16:07:30 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:07:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry to be the straw that broke the camel's back! But you unsubscribe by clicking on the unsubscribe link on every email you have ever received from NMUG!! Worst, David >How do you unsubscibe from the NMUG? > >Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... > >Best, > >Julia > >Once you have pure and sincere motivation, all the rest follows. >You can develop this right attitude toward others on the basis of >kindness, love and respect, and on the clear realisation of the >oneness of all human beings. This is important because others >benefit by this motivation as much as by anything we do. Then, with >a pure heart, you can carry on any work....and your profession >becomes a real instrument to help the community. >Dalai Lama - Insights on Daily Living, Compassion and Justice. > > > > >________________________________ >From: David Van Edwards >To: Norwich Mac User Group list >Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 15:38:31 >Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS > >Thea has just contacted the UES IT helpdesk about using her laptop >wirelessly in the library there, only to be told "We don't support >the Mac OS" The cribsheet they issue only mentions Windows too. > >As it happens the mac is perfectly at home there and did it all by >itself seamlessly, but the attitude is bizarrely out of date and >restrictive. Especially as so many of their science and music >students and staff will actively prefer Macs. > >Do you think there's any mileage in prompting Apple to offer some >training to the UEA IT dept now we have a local store with geniuses? >It would after all improve the UEA staff's future employability, >unless of course they intend to spend the rest of their lives in >denial! > >And naturally it would do no harm to Apple's prospects. > >Best wishes, > >David >-- >The Smokehouse, >6 Whitwell Road, >Norwich, NR1 4HB >England. > >Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From ghowells at f2s.com Mon Nov 9 16:10:53 2009 From: ghowells at f2s.com (G.Howells) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:10:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi both! that messages has been missing from a number of emails that I have received recently. It used to say: Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Gordon. >On 9 Nov 2009, at 15:59, julia cazorla wrote: > >> How do you unsubscibe from the NMUG? >> >> Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... > > >As has been mentioned many times before, there are links at the bottom >of every email that you get telling you how to unsubscribe. Follow >these, then follow the instructions on the page that is displayed to >unsubscribe. > >-- >David Reynolds >david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Nov 9 16:16:22 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:16:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Gordon, It must be something in your email client I suppose, your email itself had the mantra at the bottom, as well as this lot in the header [in Eudora] Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:10:53 +0000 To: Norwich Mac User Group list From: "G.Howells" Subject: Re: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS X-BeenThere: nmug at nmug.org.uk Reply-To: Norwich Mac User Group list List-Id: Norwich Mac User Group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: nmug-bounces at nmug.org.uk X-NB-Virus-Scan: virus-free Best wishes, David >Hi both! > that messages has been missing from a number of emails that I >have received recently. It used to say: > >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >Gordon. > >>On 9 Nov 2009, at 15:59, julia cazorla wrote: >> >>> How do you unsubscibe from the NMUG? >>> >>> Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... >> >> >>As has been mentioned many times before, there are links at the bottom >>of every email that you get telling you how to unsubscribe. Follow >>these, then follow the instructions on the page that is displayed to >>unsubscribe. >> >>-- >>David Reynolds >>david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>Manage your subscription at: >>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From david.tillyer at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 16:19:26 2009 From: david.tillyer at googlemail.com (David Tillyer) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:19:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: David, I agree the lack of Knowledge should be addressed and it would be a worthwhile exercise for Apple despite their popularity within the Education System. I had a similar issue recently with Talk Talk. I spent nearly 30 minutes on the phone with them because our connection would randomly drop at least two or three times an hour! We went through lots of different things and tests etc but at one point (after at least 25 mins of explaining and faffing) I mentioned the word "Mac" and he instantly said "Sorry I can no longer help you as we do not support Mac on this line, I will need to transfer you". I was of course outraged at a) how much time was already spent on the phone and the cost of the call and b) the fact that the computer we were using had nothing to do with the problem in the first place! Regards, David 2009/11/9 David Van Edwards > I'm sorry to be the straw that broke the camel's back! > > But you unsubscribe by clicking on the unsubscribe link on every > email you have ever received from NMUG!! > > Worst, > > David > > > -- :: :: :: :: http://www.twitter.com/davetillyer From tom at tomkershaw.com Mon Nov 9 16:26:29 2009 From: tom at tomkershaw.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:26:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AF842B5.2040102@tomkershaw.com> Last time I tried using the UEA library system in 2006 the wireless network appeared automatically, however, the wired Ethernet connections in the library were more reliable. Tom David Van Edwards wrote: > Thea has just contacted the UES IT helpdesk about using her laptop > wirelessly in the library there, only to be told "We don't support > the Mac OS" The cribsheet they issue only mentions Windows too. > > As it happens the mac is perfectly at home there and did it all by > itself seamlessly, but the attitude is bizarrely out of date and > restrictive. Especially as so many of their science and music > students and staff will actively prefer Macs. > > Do you think there's any mileage in prompting Apple to offer some > training to the UEA IT dept now we have a local store with geniuses? > It would after all improve the UEA staff's future employability, > unless of course they intend to spend the rest of their lives in > denial! > > And naturally it would do no harm to Apple's prospects. > > Best wishes, > > David > From swimwire at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 16:32:49 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:32:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Application Icons - Not Appearing? Message-ID: <5B88439D-B786-4A1E-B374-EA0323B41C35@googlemail.com> Hi guys, Whenever I download a new application, I drag it to the Applications folder on Snow Leopard's dock. When clicked, it pops up a grid of icons of my applications, as you'd expect. Except every time I drag a new application onto the folder, the new app's icon doesn't appear - instead, I just see an icon like this (I'll try my best to describe it). It's two pieces of paper, with an apple 'A' made up of a pencil, paintbrush, and ruler - all covered over by a white 'access denied' kind of symbol. Does that make any sense?! Anyway, basically, it's like the application's icon isn't there. Thing is, when I drag a NEW app to the Applications folder, the last app's icon then APPEARS, and the NEW one inherits this no-icon-icon. To summarise, the newest app in my Applications grid's icon never appears until I add a new application, at which point the new application's icon does this nasty trick. Anyone have any solution or explanation? Pardon the terrible explaining here. I can send screenshots if nobody knows what I'm on about... Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 9 16:37:36 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:37:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Application Icons - Not Appearing? In-Reply-To: <5B88439D-B786-4A1E-B374-EA0323B41C35@googlemail.com> References: <5B88439D-B786-4A1E-B374-EA0323B41C35@googlemail.com> Message-ID: This may have something to do with the new download protection in Snow Leopard. When you download an application it is flagged somehow as downloaded, and when you try to run the app a dialog is displayed warning you of the dangers of untrusted software etc. I'm guessing that this protection also stops the Finder from scanning the app to find the icon. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hi guys, > > Whenever I download a new application, I drag it to the Applications > folder on Snow Leopard's dock. When clicked, it pops up a grid of > icons of my applications, as you'd expect. > > Except every time I drag a new application onto the folder, the new > app's icon doesn't appear - instead, I just see an icon like this > (I'll try my best to describe it). It's two pieces of paper, with an > apple 'A' made up of a pencil, paintbrush, and ruler - all covered > over by a white 'access denied' kind of symbol. Does that make any > sense?! > > Anyway, basically, it's like the application's icon isn't there. Thing > is, when I drag a NEW app to the Applications folder, the last app's > icon then APPEARS, and the NEW one inherits this no-icon-icon. > > To summarise, the newest app in my Applications grid's icon never > appears until I add a new application, at which point the new > application's icon does this nasty trick. > > Anyone have any solution or explanation? Pardon the terrible > explaining here. I can send screenshots if nobody knows what I'm on > about... > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: ? swimwire at googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From swimwire at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 16:41:22 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:41:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Application Icons - Not Appearing? In-Reply-To: References: <5B88439D-B786-4A1E-B374-EA0323B41C35@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <47E9D42B-937C-48A5-AA3D-4D43767AFF15@googlemail.com> I thought it may be something to do with that. However, when I run the new application, yes - I see this warning - but the icon still remains the same, unchanged. It does this no matter how many times I run the application but almost always until a new app is installed... after several days of no new apps the icon updates by itself, but, I'm a bit of a control freak and just want to see all my icons! On 9 Nov 2009, at 16:37, Scott Matthews wrote: > This may have something to do with the new download protection in > Snow Leopard. > When you download an application it is flagged somehow as downloaded, > and when you try to run the app a dialog is displayed warning you of > the dangers of untrusted software etc. > I'm guessing that this protection also stops the Finder from scanning > the app to find the icon. > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Jack Webb-Heller > wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Whenever I download a new application, I drag it to the Applications >> folder on Snow Leopard's dock. When clicked, it pops up a grid of >> icons of my applications, as you'd expect. >> >> Except every time I drag a new application onto the folder, the new >> app's icon doesn't appear - instead, I just see an icon like this >> (I'll try my best to describe it). It's two pieces of paper, with an >> apple 'A' made up of a pencil, paintbrush, and ruler - all covered >> over by a white 'access denied' kind of symbol. Does that make any >> sense?! >> >> Anyway, basically, it's like the application's icon isn't there. >> Thing >> is, when I drag a NEW app to the Applications folder, the last app's >> icon then APPEARS, and the NEW one inherits this no-icon-icon. >> >> To summarise, the newest app in my Applications grid's icon never >> appears until I add a new application, at which point the new >> application's icon does this nasty trick. >> >> Anyone have any solution or explanation? Pardon the terrible >> explaining here. I can send screenshots if nobody knows what I'm on >> about... >> >> Jack Webb-Heller >> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 9 16:44:42 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:44:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Apple repairs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <374880.53029.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I trained as a Genius with the current crop of Norwich Genius's so I do know what I'm talking about!? They may have shipped in a few more people from other stores but I know for a fact they opened with two very inexperienced genius's who had 2 days take apart training London then 2 days in the GR in Cambridge. Please before publicly calling me a liar get the facts in order! ? Norwich Computer Company, Apple Mac, PC & iPhone Repair http://www.apple-macs.eu ? ? ? --- On Mon, 9/11/09, Stefan Youngs wrote: From: Stefan Youngs Subject: [NMUG] Apple repairs To: nmug at nmug.org.uk Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 14:25 "Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro To: Norwich Mac User Group list None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac until 6 weeks ago,?" This is patently untrue. Some have worked for Apple for years. They also have access to a worldwide comprehensive problems and fixes database which is possibly even more useful than several years fiddling around at the major component replacement level which is as deep as most independent Apple product fixers ever get. I never yet met a fixer who routinely diagnoses down to chip level on a logic board. I think Apple is making a serious and professional effort to push device repair out closer to the customer, which to me should represent a major improvement in responsiveness. Mind you, Apple Care previously was a high class operation: a courier would arrive at your door the same day you reported a problem, would take away your machine without you having to pack it up, and the next day you'd get a phone report and, sometimes, the following the day, the return of your machine. I never got that with anything else I owned. We're reaping the benefit of choosing a first class manufacturer. They aren't perfect, but neither are many circles. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 16:56:52 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:56:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <919A85E0-4905-4FE2-85AA-687AEF3905D7@mac.com> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> <919A85E0-4905-4FE2-85AA-687AEF3905D7@mac.com> Message-ID: <04B425FC-44A7-4BBF-A708-9F423F99A95B@googlemail.com> Yes I am concerned to that if the group grows anymore that we may have to find a different venue. Although the growing in size of the group is fantastic and I hope it continues. Tuesday or Thursday will be ok for me. Simon Bainbridge On 9 Nov 2009, at 12:31, Richard Nevill wrote: > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say >> the Tuesday or the Thursday. > > > Either is fine for me - if the Quebec can take us those nights. > > The only problem I can foresee is if we have a further surge in > attendees - the room was getting rather crowded at the October > meeting. > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 9 17:46:25 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Application Icons - Not Appearing? In-Reply-To: <47E9D42B-937C-48A5-AA3D-4D43767AFF15@googlemail.com> References: <5B88439D-B786-4A1E-B374-EA0323B41C35@googlemail.com> <47E9D42B-937C-48A5-AA3D-4D43767AFF15@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <081C772C-87EF-4688-946E-B8FB408E72D6@durrant.co.uk> Try running the app before dragging to the Applications folder. Or, after running it, try logging out and logging in again - that should get the dock to refresh it's cache of the icon. regards Paul On 9 Nov 2009, at 16:41, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > I thought it may be something to do with that. However, when I run the > new application, yes - I see this warning - but the icon still remains > the same, unchanged. It does this no matter how many times I run the > application but almost always until a new app is installed... after > several days of no new apps the icon updates by itself, but, I'm a bit > of a control freak and just want to see all my icons! > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 16:37, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> This may have something to do with the new download protection in >> Snow Leopard. >> When you download an application it is flagged somehow as downloaded, >> and when you try to run the app a dialog is displayed warning you of >> the dangers of untrusted software etc. >> I'm guessing that this protection also stops the Finder from scanning >> the app to find the icon. >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Jack Webb-Heller >> wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Whenever I download a new application, I drag it to the Applications >>> folder on Snow Leopard's dock. When clicked, it pops up a grid of >>> icons of my applications, as you'd expect. >>> >>> Except every time I drag a new application onto the folder, the new >>> app's icon doesn't appear - instead, I just see an icon like this >>> (I'll try my best to describe it). It's two pieces of paper, with an >>> apple 'A' made up of a pencil, paintbrush, and ruler - all covered >>> over by a white 'access denied' kind of symbol. Does that make any >>> sense?! >>> >>> Anyway, basically, it's like the application's icon isn't there. >>> Thing >>> is, when I drag a NEW app to the Applications folder, the last app's >>> icon then APPEARS, and the NEW one inherits this no-icon-icon. >>> >>> To summarise, the newest app in my Applications grid's icon never >>> appears until I add a new application, at which point the new >>> application's icon does this nasty trick. >>> >>> Anyone have any solution or explanation? Pardon the terrible >>> explaining here. I can send screenshots if nobody knows what I'm on >>> about... >>> >>> Jack Webb-Heller >>> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >>> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 9 18:44:39 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:44:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac Message-ID: Hi everyone Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it should be straightforward. Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to Library in my new version of iPhoto? a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. Many thanks Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net From john.halstead at mailinator.com Mon Nov 9 19:47:37 2009 From: john.halstead at mailinator.com (john.halstead at mailinator.com) Date: 9 Nov 2009 19:47:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS X... Strange problems Message-ID: From tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 19:56:58 2009 From: tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com (Tony Hall) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:56:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mail problems Message-ID: Hi guys, I have a new MacBook running OS X Snow Leopard. I got it a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately last weekend, whilst reading emails, mail.app crashed and my Mac oddly restarted itself. Since then, I have not been able to find my glasses. Does anyone have a solution to this? I have searched everywhere. Thanks, Tony From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 9 20:00:30 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:00:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mail problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C5C9489-9DC1-4B51-9A5D-D1D44DF4055D@mac.com> Have you tried your forehead? That's where my wife always find mine! On 9 Nov 2009, at 19:56, Tony Hall wrote: > > Unfortunately last weekend, whilst reading emails, mail.app crashed > and my > Mac oddly restarted itself. Since then, I have not been able to find > my > glasses. > > Does anyone have a solution to this? I have searched everywhere. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From macman at f2s.com Mon Nov 9 20:27:15 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:27:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS X... Strange problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5423F21E-6A13-4C4F-A709-87863CD5F5E1@f2s.com> That is strange ... I've only ever seen it once before, and that was on a Sinclair ZX81 ... Robbie On 9 Nov 2009, at 19:47, john.halstead at mailinator.com wrote: _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 9 20:31:07 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:31:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS X... Strange problems In-Reply-To: <5423F21E-6A13-4C4F-A709-87863CD5F5E1@f2s.com> References: <5423F21E-6A13-4C4F-A709-87863CD5F5E1@f2s.com> Message-ID: <0C151E99-2B90-45CB-9525-9D45D0E62A2F@mac.com> Didn't the ZX80 do it, too? On 9 Nov 2009, at 20:27, Robbie Murray wrote: > That is strange ... > > I've only ever seen it once before, and that was on a Sinclair > ZX81 ... > > > Robbie > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 19:47, john.halstead at mailinator.com wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 20:50:35 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:50:35 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? Message-ID: "I trained as a Genius with the current crop of Norwich Genius's so I do know what I'm talking about!? They may have shipped in a few more people from other stores but I know for a fact they opened with two very inexperienced genius's who had 2 days take apart training London then 2 days in the GR in Cambridge. Please before publicly calling me a liar get the facts in order!" Touchy! Who called you a liar? You've already contradicted your previous unsupportable statement, which is the point I was making. Apple has some solid specialists in its store. I would, however, agree the word 'genius' is entirely inappropriate to describe a problem solver working at the level of the Apple store. Perhaps the guy who figured out the face recognition algorithms in iPhoto might just creep onto the the genius radar as low-level noise, possibly the inspired designer of the new mouse. But no Mr or Mrs Fixit surely? If one could train to be a genius, we might have a chance of getting effective politicians, but, sadly, this is not possible. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From macman at f2s.com Mon Nov 9 21:10:44 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:10:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS X... Strange problems In-Reply-To: <0C151E99-2B90-45CB-9525-9D45D0E62A2F@mac.com> References: <5423F21E-6A13-4C4F-A709-87863CD5F5E1@f2s.com> <0C151E99-2B90-45CB-9525-9D45D0E62A2F@mac.com> Message-ID: <0E49E90A-9BEE-40AD-8211-81934DE1230F@f2s.com> If it did, I never saw it ... Robbie On 9 Nov 2009, at 20:31, Richard Nevill wrote: Didn't the ZX80 do it, too? On 9 Nov 2009, at 20:27, Robbie Murray wrote: > That is strange ... > > I've only ever seen it once before, and that was on a Sinclair > ZX81 ... > > > Robbie > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 19:47, john.halstead at mailinator.com wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 9 23:01:12 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:01:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November 25th meeting In-Reply-To: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> References: <581C061F-4E76-4C37-9E87-1518E49F6DB1@mac.com> <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <3B595311-F862-4FD3-BE5D-6A1EB3FFF565@gmail.com> As there is a choice, I personally would prefer a Thursday alternative! On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: Tuesday or the Thursday. Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From david at vanedwards.co.uk Tue Nov 10 09:20:22 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:20:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] CD/DVD writer offered Message-ID: Dear all, Following a successful upgrading to a faster CD/DVD writer, my old internal Pioneer one is going free. It used to burn and read CDs with no problems but very occasionally it wouldn't recognise some DVDs, even some it had written itself. But it's free and seems a shame to put it into landfill if someone can make use of it. Pioneer DVR-107PD serial no. DDDL065993WL dated April 2004 Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 11:10:14 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the?specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to speak Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Mon, 9/11/09, Stefan Youngs wrote: From: Stefan Youngs Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: nmug at nmug.org.uk Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 20:50 "I trained as a Genius with the current crop of Norwich Genius's so I do know what I'm talking about!? They may have shipped in a few more people from other stores but I know for a fact they opened with two very inexperienced genius's who had 2 days take apart training London then 2 days in the GR in Cambridge. Please before publicly calling me a liar get the facts in order!" Touchy! Who called you a liar? You've already contradicted your previous unsupportable statement, which is the point I was making. Apple has some solid specialists in its store. I would, however, agree the word 'genius' is entirely inappropriate to describe a problem solver working at the level of the Apple store. Perhaps the guy who figured out the face recognition algorithms in iPhoto might just creep onto the the genius radar as low-level noise, possibly the inspired designer of the new mouse. But no Mr or Mrs Fixit surely? If one could train to be a genius, we might have a chance of getting effective politicians, but, sadly, this is not possible. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Tue Nov 10 11:42:34 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:42:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular noun, the plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably acceptable. A.P. Edant On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to speak From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 12:34:06 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:34:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <84F2D0DF-9F2E-45A8-91F7-87F1909DDF8B@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you become a genius in a few weeks. How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just about every model Mac released. No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple foibles etc... Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the > specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to > speak Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:18:05 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:18:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <215138.64176.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it is Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as? genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular? noun, the? plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably? acceptable. A.P. Edant On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the specialists? came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to speak _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:21:25 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <84F2D0DF-9F2E-45A8-91F7-87F1909DDF8B@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <771257.15153.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Its the worst job?name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! ? back to the first point, All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack!? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 Hi Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you become? a genius in a few weeks. How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe? previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just? about every model Mac released. No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be? said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple? foibles etc... Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the? > specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to? > speak Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:26:45 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:26:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Macbook Pro For sale Message-ID: <369091.51194.qm@web26701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> /On a lighter less Genius theamed post I have a almost new 13" Macbook Pro for sale. ? Intel Core2 Duo Processor (2.53GHz, 3MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB) 2x 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM 250GB Serial ATA (5400 rpm) NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory 13.3-inch (viewable) LED-backlit glossy widescreen 1280 x 800 pixels ? 3 Months old VGC ? ?600 looking for a quick sale so always up for a haggle! ? 07501264621 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:33:14 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:33:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <771257.15153.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <771257.15153.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <730D469A-214A-455A-9A57-A6AD1D8E2004@simonroyal.co.uk> Joe That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they aren't then they need more training. I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - but they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: > > > Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have > to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! > > back to the first point, > All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 > > > Hi > > Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you become > a genius in a few weeks. > > How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe > previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just > about every model Mac released. > > No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be > said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple > foibles etc... > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > >> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to >> speak > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From macman at f2s.com Tue Nov 10 13:47:44 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:47:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <215138.64176.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <215138.64176.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to Degree level ... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it is Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular noun, the plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably acceptable. A.P. Edant From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:52:28 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <730D469A-214A-455A-9A57-A6AD1D8E2004@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <388240.11488.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon?? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 Joe That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new? mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they? aren't then they need more training. I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - but? they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime? something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: > > > Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have? > to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! > > back to the first point, > All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 > > > Hi > > Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you become > a genius in a few weeks. > > How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe > previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just > about every model Mac released. > > No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be > said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple > foibles etc... > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > >> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to >> speak > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:53:48 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:53:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <388240.11488.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <388240.11488.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2CB76362-EEA8-48B6-A062-53316D42981C@simonroyal.co.uk> Joe Only you :) Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:52, joe butler wrote: > > > Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon? > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 > > > Joe > > That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new > mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. > > Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they > aren't then they need more training. > > I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - but > they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime > something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: > >> >> >> Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have >> to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! >> >> back to the first point, >> All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 >> >> >> Hi >> >> Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you >> become >> a genius in a few weeks. >> >> How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe >> previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just >> about every model Mac released. >> >> No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be >> said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple >> foibles etc... >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: >> >>> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >>> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to >>> speak >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From alanbarber at mac.com Tue Nov 10 13:53:58 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:53:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> References: <215138.64176.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> Message-ID: <69E1D667-59AA-4C00-8949-8C6C775AD0CF@mac.com> according to Wikipedia A genius (plural genii or geniuses, adjective ingenious Regards Alan On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:47, Robbie Murray wrote: > Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to Degree > level ... > > Robbie > > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: > > I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told > by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it > is Genuis's! > > > Cheap and Free mobile phones > http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk > > Iphone and Ipod Insurance > http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance > > Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website > http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: > > > From: Robbie Murray > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 > > > Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as > genius. > > Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular > noun, the plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably > acceptable. > > A.P. Edant > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:54:27 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:54:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> Message-ID: <976973.95322.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Robbie,?Im only going on what i was told, I think I may be siding with you as your the man who knows! I wasd told it was something to do with goasts in latin but I only just have a grip on English so Im out of my depth on this one! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:47 Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to Degree? level ... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told? by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it? is Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular noun, the? plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably acceptable. A.P. Edant _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:56:47 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:56:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <2CB76362-EEA8-48B6-A062-53316D42981C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <467850.55870.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Im no longer one thank god, there?are only so many iPhones screens on man can replace! You would be stuned what you can fix with a bit of tape! ? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:53 Joe Only you :) Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:52, joe butler wrote: > > > Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon? > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 > > > Joe > > That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new > mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. > > Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they > aren't then they need more training. > > I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - but > they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime > something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: > >> >> >> Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have >> to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! >> >> back to the first point, >> All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 >> >> >> Hi >> >> Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you? >> become >> a genius in a few weeks. >> >> How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe >> previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just >> about every model Mac released. >> >> No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be >> said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple >> foibles etc... >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: >> >>> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >>> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to >>> speak >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 13:57:59 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:57:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <467850.55870.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <467850.55870.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A36627C-2D59-4320-A02C-1A4AB4B1114F@simonroyal.co.uk> Joe After stripping down an iBook G3 to find most of it is held in place by yellow tape - I will never be surprised. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:56, joe butler wrote: > Im no longer one thank god, there are only so many iPhones screens > on man can replace! > You would be stuned what you can fix with a bit of tape! > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:53 > > > Joe > > Only you :) > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:52, joe butler wrote: > >> >> >> Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon? >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 >> >> >> Joe >> >> That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new >> mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. >> >> Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they >> aren't then they need more training. >> >> I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - >> but >> they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime >> something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have >>> to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! >>> >>> back to the first point, >>> All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Simon Royal >>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >>> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >>> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you >>> become >>> a genius in a few weeks. >>> >>> How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe >>> previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just >>> about every model Mac released. >>> >>> No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to >>> be >>> said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple >>> foibles etc... >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: >>> >>>> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >>>> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so >>>> to >>>> speak >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 14:02:42 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <4A36627C-2D59-4320-A02C-1A4AB4B1114F@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <10272.84132.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> LoL So Simon can I tempt you with a macbook pro. Its intel and under a year old so I guess its not your thing?! ? ? ? ? --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:57 Joe After stripping down an iBook G3 to find most of it is held in place? by yellow tape - I will never be surprised. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:56, joe butler wrote: > Im no longer one thank god, there are only so many iPhones screens? > on man can replace! > You would be stuned what you can fix with a bit of tape! > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:53 > > > Joe > > Only you :) > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:52, joe butler wrote: > >> >> >> Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon? >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 >> >> >> Joe >> >> That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new >> mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. >> >> Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If they >> aren't then they need more training. >> >> I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked -? >> but >> they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime >> something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer have >>> to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! >>> >>> back to the first point, >>> All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Simon Royal >>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >>> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >>> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you >>> become >>> a genius in a few weeks. >>> >>> How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe >>> previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just >>> about every model Mac released. >>> >>> No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to? >>> be >>> said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple >>> foibles etc... >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: >>> >>>> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >>>> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so? >>>> to >>>> speak >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From batchsteve at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 14:08:00 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:08:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3976D3AA-9948-4B6F-BF3E-160084036B42@gmail.com> Hi Joe, So did you actually work in the Norwich apple store? Does the name James Stiles ring a bell? Steve. On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > "I trained as a Genius with the current crop of Norwich Genius's so I do > know what I'm talking about!? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 14:10:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <10272.84132.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <10272.84132.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4981491F-2BAC-4CC1-8BA4-2D191E831F96@simonroyal.co.uk> Joe You can tempt me, but only if you meant to right ?6.00 and not ?600. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 14:02, joe butler wrote: > LoL So Simon can I tempt you with a macbook pro. Its intel and under > a year old so I guess its not your thing?! > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:57 > > > Joe > > After stripping down an iBook G3 to find most of it is held in place > by yellow tape - I will never be surprised. > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:56, joe butler wrote: > >> Im no longer one thank god, there are only so many iPhones screens >> on man can replace! >> You would be stuned what you can fix with a bit of tape! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:53 >> >> >> Joe >> >> Only you :) >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:52, joe butler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Have you been in to the store and spoke to a genius simon? >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Simon Royal >>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >>> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >>> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 13:33 >>> >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> That's a bit like having your brakes loosened on your car by a new >>> mechanic and saying 'cut him some slack, he is new'. >>> >>> Either people are up to the job they are doing or they aren't If >>> they >>> aren't then they need more training. >>> >>> I'm not saying everyone knows everything they will ever be asked - >>> but >>> they shouldn't be like rabbits dazzled by headlights everytime >>> something is asked that isn't on their sheet of answers. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:21, joe butler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Its the worst job name known to man! I am very glad I no longer >>>> have >>>> to use it! Sounding a bit bitter all the same Simon! >>>> >>>> back to the first point, >>>> All I was saying is the Genius team are new so cut them some slack! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Simon Royal >>>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >>>> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >>>> Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 12:34 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you >>>> become >>>> a genius in a few weeks. >>>> >>>> How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe >>>> previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in >>>> just >>>> about every model Mac released. >>>> >>>> No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to >>>> be >>>> said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple >>>> foibles etc... >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: >>>> >>>>> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >>>>> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so >>>>> to >>>>> speak >>>> >>>> Simon Royal >>>> --- >>>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>>> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 15:09:18 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:09:18 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... Message-ID: It's all 'marketing' of course. Apple hyping for all it's worth. Looks great though and does seem to work, except in one specific case. Being fond of my tipple..... .... I went up to Apple's Genius Bar and asked for a daiquiri on ice with a twist of fresh lemon, shaken not stirred, with a Jameson chaser on the side and was greeted by silence. Obviously the genius I picked didn't have a clue how to make a daiquiri. Lousy training I'd say. Not impressed in this regard and took me off to the fortuitously nearby Sir Garnet Wolseley -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From alanbarber at mac.com Tue Nov 10 15:17:39 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:17:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82F4A87A-DF4D-4321-AAC2-BE58C2D784E7@mac.com> On 10 Nov 2009, at 15:09, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Not impressed in this regard and took me off to the fortuitously > nearby Sir > Garnet Wolseley And they knew how to make a daiquiri? Alan From macman at f2s.com Tue Nov 10 15:27:56 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:27:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... In-Reply-To: <82F4A87A-DF4D-4321-AAC2-BE58C2D784E7@mac.com> References: <82F4A87A-DF4D-4321-AAC2-BE58C2D784E7@mac.com> Message-ID: More to the point, did the barman fix your laptop? Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 15:17, Alan Barber wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 15:09, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Not impressed in this regard and took me off to the fortuitously > nearby Sir > Garnet Wolseley And they knew how to make a daiquiri? Alan _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 10 15:36:51 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store/NMUG events (Was: Re: November 25th meeting) In-Reply-To: References: <1FF0EF32-8FFD-4472-860A-0915682AB1D3@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 Nov 2009, at 19:46, Richard Nevill wrote: > > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:26, Andrew Forde wrote: > >> As a thought has anyone approached the new Apple Store to see if they >> would be interested to support us? > > > Guess who made contact on opening day, had promises for action 'Twas me, and I've now got a contact to arrange things. What is needed now is for you all to let me know what you want to do (stands back in the rush). Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 10 17:36:10 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:36:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Saturday's course - Website Design Programs St. Matthews Church, 10-12 Message-ID: <45C0E428-C7D6-4142-90A3-A26F1CC6B78C@mac.com> If anyone else is thinking of coming along on Saturday, could they let me know please. Thanks, Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 10 17:36:10 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:36:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Saturday's course - Website Design Programs St. Matthews Church, 10-12 Message-ID: <45C0E428-C7D6-4142-90A3-A26F1CC6B78C@mac.com> If anyone else is thinking of coming along on Saturday, could they let me know please. Thanks, Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Nov 10 19:24:15 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:24:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] UEA and Mac OS In-Reply-To: <392911.62712.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Julia The link to manage your membership - including unsubscribe - is on the bottom of every NMUG mail. But before you do ... you can select all and choose 'mark as read'. Or even delete. What I mean is - you can change your mind about the mails such that they no longer carry any sense of compelling attention. Its true that at times it gets quite chatty - but that doesn't have to get my attention unless I am drawn in. I love the Dalai Lama quote by the way. May all be drawn into alignment with your heart's desire. In Peace Brian julia cazorla said recently: > Can't cope with the quantity of messages.... From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Nov 10 19:37:41 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:37:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jeremy If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both library and files intact. It costs a little. If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then you can just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import them. Come back on this if you want more info. http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ all the best Brian Jeremy Webb said recently: > Hi everyone > > Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old > iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 > in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I > embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just > incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it > should be straightforward. > > Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new > laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from > "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to > Library in my new version of iPhoto? > > a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From therealcazorla at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 10 19:57:08 2009 From: therealcazorla at yahoo.co.uk (julia cazorla) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] geniuses and genii - essential crossword trivia In-Reply-To: <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> References: <215138.64176.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <17F26E6C-D5D0-45E3-92AD-DEED9C5D1EF0@f2s.com> Message-ID: <49364.17918.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> For anyone who is still interested in the plural of genius and whether Apple is staffed by any, I've pasted the Webster's definition below: in it's original usage it means a guiding spirit, with Latin plural of genii?- there's a quote in Anthony and Cleopatra about Mark Anthony's genius (guardian spirit) having left him, as explanation for his losses in battle. With a plural of geniuses, see definition 5, it means a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority. So the first kind of genius would be influential (but no gurantee of beneficial outcome), and the second would have marked intellectual prowess and possibly no call out fee, if genuinely transcendental. Hope this helps. Main Entry: ge?nius Pronunciation: \?j?n-y?s, ?j?-n?-?s\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural ge?nius?es or ge?nii \-n?-??\ Etymology: Latin, tutelary spirit, natural inclinations, from gignere to beget Date: 1513 1 a plural genii : an attendant spirit of a person or place b plural usually genii : a person who influences another for good or bad 2 : a strong leaning or inclination : penchant 3 a : a peculiar, distinctive, or identifying character or spirit b : the associations and traditions of a place c : a personification or embodiment especially of a quality or condition 4 plural usually genii : spirit, jinni 5 plural usually geniuses a : a single strongly marked capacity or aptitude b : extraordinary intellectual power especially as manifested in creative activity c : a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority; especially : a person with a very high IQ synonyms see gift ? Once you have pure and sincere motivation, all the rest follows.? You can develop this right attitude toward others on the basis of kindness, love and respect, and on the clear realisation of the oneness of all human beings.? This is important because others benefit by this motivation as much as by anything we do. Then, with a pure heart, you can carry on any work....and your profession becomes a real instrument to help the community. Dalai Lama - Insights on Daily Living, Compassion and Justice. ________________________________ From: Robbie Murray To: Norwich Mac User Group list Sent: Tue, 10 November, 2009 13:47:44 Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to Degree? level ... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told? by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it? is Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular noun, the? plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably acceptable. A.P. Edant _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 20:23:56 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:23:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PC Quake On A Mac Message-ID: <7957DFCE-426E-4047-8456-5C7108CEE56C@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. I picked up a copy of Quake for the PC the other day. Paul pointed me to http://www.fruitz-of-dojo.de/ where you can use Quake and Quake 2 either PC or Mac with his front end to play them on the Mac. I have checked the Quake CD and it looks like a regular windows installer, there are no pak files on the CD. Is there anyway - without installing it on a Windows machine and then copying the files off - of extracting the files on a Mac? Regards Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 20:30:22 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:30:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens Message-ID: Hi. I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front page and I did it on my PowerBook. I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks horrible and bold fonts are unbold. How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for both Mac and Windows. Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 21:01:31 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:01:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <84F2D0DF-9F2E-45A8-91F7-87F1909DDF8B@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <854818.56249.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <84F2D0DF-9F2E-45A8-91F7-87F1909DDF8B@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: I applied for a job as an Apple Genius @ the Norwich store but I was not successful after going for an interview. My 5 years experiance working as an IT Engineer and supporting a suite of 27 Intel iMacs for 3 of those years obviously was not enough. ;( Simon Bainbridge On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:34, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Genius as in the Apple genius is a misleading term. How can you become > a genius in a few weeks. > > How can a few weeks intensive training in the latest - and maybe > previous gen - Macs make you a genius vs years of experience in just > about every model Mac released. > > No disrespect to Joe and the others trained, but there is a lot to be > said about experience. You get to know recurring problems, Apple > foibles etc... > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > >> specialists are not the same thing as genius, some of the >> specialists came in from cambridge the genius's are fresh meet so to >> speak > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From swimwire at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 21:10:16 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:10:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html That is a list of 'web safe fonts' - these are fonts that are present on both Windows and Mac. Tahoma is one of these but Microsoft often makes modifications before releasing them to their OS. Regarding the colours, obviously it could be something like monitor calibration - try comparing a different site on both computers and see if it looks different between the two, i.e. browse the BBC site on both and compare it's homepage colours etc. Which browser is she using? Safari, Firefox, Chrome and Opera usually work flawlessly however Internet Explorer has a habit of not complying to 'web standards', i.e. not parsing HTML code as correctly as the W3C set out. If she is using Internet Explorer, she should immediately change to Firefox, not only for security reasons but for speed as well. However, obviously many people who visit her site may use Internet Explorer. If you coded the site yourself make sure you're using full 6-character hexadecimal codes for colours (if that makes no sense, sorry) - it will ensure browser consistency and may help with colour correction. Also, regarding the font, if you are using CSS on your page make sure you set the fonts up with this using CSS properties correctly and don't necessarily just do it through HTML tags. If that makes no sense I'll be happy to explain further, Jack On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front page > and I did it on my PowerBook. > > I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it > looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. > > The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my > wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base > font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks > horrible and bold fonts are unbold. > > How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for both > Mac and Windows. > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 21:17:10 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:17:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F82A711-1695-411C-BC39-74E20D68C62A@simonroyal.co.uk> Jack I have just switched to Verdana, to see if that makes any difference. Both using Firefox. I'm using full 6-character hex codes. I'm using CSS for all colours and styles. Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:10, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hi Simon > > http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html > > That is a list of 'web safe fonts' - these are fonts that are present > on both Windows and Mac. Tahoma is one of these but Microsoft often > makes modifications before releasing them to their OS. > > Regarding the colours, obviously it could be something like monitor > calibration - try comparing a different site on both computers and see > if it looks different between the two, i.e. browse the BBC site on > both and compare it's homepage colours etc. > > Which browser is she using? Safari, Firefox, Chrome and Opera usually > work flawlessly however Internet Explorer has a habit of not complying > to 'web standards', i.e. not parsing HTML code as correctly as the W3C > set out. > > If she is using Internet Explorer, she should immediately change to > Firefox, not only for security reasons but for speed as well. However, > obviously many people who visit her site may use Internet Explorer. If > you coded the site yourself make sure you're using full 6-character > hexadecimal codes for colours (if that makes no sense, sorry) - it > will ensure browser consistency and may help with colour correction. > > Also, regarding the font, if you are using CSS on your page make sure > you set the fonts up with this using CSS properties correctly and > don't necessarily just do it through HTML tags. > > If that makes no sense I'll be happy to explain further, > > Jack > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front >> page >> and I did it on my PowerBook. >> >> I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it >> looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. >> >> The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my >> wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base >> font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks >> horrible and bold fonts are unbold. >> >> How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for both >> Mac and Windows. >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From swimwire at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 21:19:13 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:19:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: <0F82A711-1695-411C-BC39-74E20D68C62A@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <0F82A711-1695-411C-BC39-74E20D68C62A@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <04E66F13-D6F1-4CC2-8B86-726A6D1F0F25@googlemail.com> OK. Is there any difference? Monitor calibration? On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:17, Simon Royal wrote: > Jack > > I have just switched to Verdana, to see if that makes any difference. > > Both using Firefox. > > I'm using full 6-character hex codes. > > I'm using CSS for all colours and styles. > > Simon > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:10, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > >> Hi Simon >> >> http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html >> >> That is a list of 'web safe fonts' - these are fonts that are present >> on both Windows and Mac. Tahoma is one of these but Microsoft often >> makes modifications before releasing them to their OS. >> >> Regarding the colours, obviously it could be something like monitor >> calibration - try comparing a different site on both computers and >> see >> if it looks different between the two, i.e. browse the BBC site on >> both and compare it's homepage colours etc. >> >> Which browser is she using? Safari, Firefox, Chrome and Opera usually >> work flawlessly however Internet Explorer has a habit of not >> complying >> to 'web standards', i.e. not parsing HTML code as correctly as the >> W3C >> set out. >> >> If she is using Internet Explorer, she should immediately change to >> Firefox, not only for security reasons but for speed as well. >> However, >> obviously many people who visit her site may use Internet Explorer. >> If >> you coded the site yourself make sure you're using full 6-character >> hexadecimal codes for colours (if that makes no sense, sorry) - it >> will ensure browser consistency and may help with colour correction. >> >> Also, regarding the font, if you are using CSS on your page make sure >> you set the fonts up with this using CSS properties correctly and >> don't necessarily just do it through HTML tags. >> >> If that makes no sense I'll be happy to explain further, >> >> Jack >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front >>> page >>> and I did it on my PowerBook. >>> >>> I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it >>> looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. >>> >>> The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my >>> wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base >>> font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks >>> horrible and bold fonts are unbold. >>> >>> How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for >>> both >>> Mac and Windows. >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> Jack Webb-Heller >> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 10 21:19:58 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:19:58 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... More to the point, did the barman fix your laptop? Bu**er me.. I knew there was another reason I went in there! He did join me in a spirited discussion on the relative merits of command lines... I think, but it all got a bit hazy after that. Did you see Microsoft is going to open its own retail stores? The mind boggles. 7 layers of security guards before you get in the door, random people coming up to you asking for ID, emergency store evacuations 3 times an hour, looming 3D images of a huge Steve Ballmer exhorting you to buy Windows 8, or is it 9?..... -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 10 21:26:52 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: <04E66F13-D6F1-4CC2-8B86-726A6D1F0F25@googlemail.com> References: <0F82A711-1695-411C-BC39-74E20D68C62A@simonroyal.co.uk> <04E66F13-D6F1-4CC2-8B86-726A6D1F0F25@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi. It might be a brightness thing. I like my PowerBook screen quite dull and her screen is quite bright. I have just turned the brightness up on mine and the colours are better matched, however, even on full brightness my PowerBook still keeps things pastely rather than bright in your face. Changing to Verdana has made no difference. The bold items are still not bold. Interestingly, I used the same template as I used for the NMUG site and I just checked that on her PC and it doesn't bold the nav links on there, but it does on Firefox on the Mac. I am bolding them in the CSS and not in the HTML (as in font-weight: bold;). Simon On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:19, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > OK. Is there any difference? > > Monitor calibration? > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:17, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Jack >> >> I have just switched to Verdana, to see if that makes any difference. >> >> Both using Firefox. >> >> I'm using full 6-character hex codes. >> >> I'm using CSS for all colours and styles. >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:10, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: >> >>> Hi Simon >>> >>> http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html >>> >>> That is a list of 'web safe fonts' - these are fonts that are >>> present >>> on both Windows and Mac. Tahoma is one of these but Microsoft often >>> makes modifications before releasing them to their OS. >>> >>> Regarding the colours, obviously it could be something like monitor >>> calibration - try comparing a different site on both computers and >>> see >>> if it looks different between the two, i.e. browse the BBC site on >>> both and compare it's homepage colours etc. >>> >>> Which browser is she using? Safari, Firefox, Chrome and Opera >>> usually >>> work flawlessly however Internet Explorer has a habit of not >>> complying >>> to 'web standards', i.e. not parsing HTML code as correctly as the >>> W3C >>> set out. >>> >>> If she is using Internet Explorer, she should immediately change to >>> Firefox, not only for security reasons but for speed as well. >>> However, >>> obviously many people who visit her site may use Internet Explorer. >>> If >>> you coded the site yourself make sure you're using full 6-character >>> hexadecimal codes for colours (if that makes no sense, sorry) - it >>> will ensure browser consistency and may help with colour correction. >>> >>> Also, regarding the font, if you are using CSS on your page make >>> sure >>> you set the fonts up with this using CSS properties correctly and >>> don't necessarily just do it through HTML tags. >>> >>> If that makes no sense I'll be happy to explain further, >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front >>>> page >>>> and I did it on my PowerBook. >>>> >>>> I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it >>>> looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. >>>> >>>> The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my >>>> wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base >>>> font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks >>>> horrible and bold fonts are unbold. >>>> >>>> How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for >>>> both >>>> Mac and Windows. >>>> >>>> Simon Royal >>>> --- >>>> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >>>> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> Jack Webb-Heller >>> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >>> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 10 21:27:01 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:27:01 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65231F047F3D45EC9786198B61413E45@PeterPC> And I bet they have a Genius Bar where the 'Tech Guys' hang out! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Youngs" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... > Subject: Re: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... > > > More to the point, did the barman fix your laptop? > > > Bu**er me.. I knew there was another reason I went in there! He did join > me > in a spirited discussion on the relative merits of command lines... I > think, > but it all got a bit hazy after that. > > Did you see Microsoft is going to open its own retail stores? The mind > boggles. 7 layers of security guards before you get in the door, random > people coming up to you asking for ID, emergency store evacuations 3 times > an hour, looming 3D images of a huge Steve Ballmer exhorting you to buy > Windows 8, or is it 9?..... > -- > Stefan Youngs > skype me at stefanyoungs > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From macman at f2s.com Tue Nov 10 22:08:49 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:08:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] At the Genius Bar.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And the only exit is marked "Entrance" ..... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 21:19, Stefan Youngs wrote: Did you see Microsoft is going to open its own retail stores? The mind boggles. 7 layers of security guards before you get in the door, random people coming up to you asking for ID, emergency store evacuations 3 times an hour, looming 3D images of a huge Steve Ballmer exhorting you to buy Windows 8, or is it 9?..... -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 10 22:49:47 2009 From: alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com (Alan Barber) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:49:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] next Quebec meeting Message-ID: <8CABD9C1-FA27-4D9D-9FDF-DBF6A86F4854@ntlworld.com> Landlord of the Quebec says Tues 24th is free. Shall we go for that? Regards Alan From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 10 23:09:26 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:09:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] next Quebec meeting In-Reply-To: <8CABD9C1-FA27-4D9D-9FDF-DBF6A86F4854@ntlworld.com> References: <8CABD9C1-FA27-4D9D-9FDF-DBF6A86F4854@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: We had one request for Thursday, but if Tuesday's free and Thursday isn't, I think we should go for Tuesday. regards, Paul On 10 Nov 2009, at 22:49, Alan Barber wrote: > Landlord of the Quebec says Tues 24th is free. > Shall we go for that? From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 10 23:11:31 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:11:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mac & PCs have a different default Gamma setting for the monitors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction#Windows.2C_Mac.2C_sRGB_and_TV.2Fvideo_standard_gammas will tell you more than you ever wanted to know. You just have to find a compromise that looks OK on both. regards, Paul On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front page > and I did it on my PowerBook. > > I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it > looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. > > The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my > wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base > font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks > horrible and bold fonts are unbold. > > How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for both > Mac and Windows. > From tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 07:57:40 2009 From: tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com (Tony Hall) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? Message-ID: Hello! As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac Operating system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one little thing which I can't understand. Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it disappears. As if it has melted! This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? Cheers, Tony From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 11 07:59:42 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <3976D3AA-9948-4B6F-BF3E-160084036B42@gmail.com> Message-ID: <382662.74001.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi No I worked in the Cambridge store, all be it for a short wile. Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly like? "Think Different"! Joe Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: From: Steve Batch Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 14:08 Hi Joe, So did you actually work in the Norwich apple store?? Does the name James Stiles ring a bell? Steve. On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:10, joe butler wrote: > "I trained as a Genius with the current crop of Norwich Genius's so I do > know what I'm talking about!? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Wed Nov 11 08:06:55 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:06:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80C74EF6-C2C8-483C-A00B-62E97D7C3A95@zen.co.uk> That's the minimise/hide button! It's a feature. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:57, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello! > > As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac Operating > system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one > little thing which I can't understand. > > Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it > disappears. As if it has melted! > > This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? > > Cheers, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 11 08:18:48 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] geniuses and genii - essential crossword trivia In-Reply-To: <49364.17918.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <185266.90378.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I was close I said ghost!?? Im sure you will be told your wrong Julia by one of our many in house "experts"! Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu --- On Tue, 10/11/09, julia cazorla wrote: From: julia cazorla Subject: Re: [NMUG] geniuses and genii - essential crossword trivia To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 19:57 For anyone who is still interested in the plural of genius and whether Apple is staffed by any, I've pasted the Webster's definition below: in it's original usage it means a guiding spirit, with Latin plural of genii?- there's a quote in Anthony and Cleopatra about Mark Anthony's genius (guardian spirit) having left him, as explanation for his losses in battle. With a plural of geniuses, see definition 5, it means a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority. So the first kind of genius would be influential (but no gurantee of beneficial outcome), and the second would have marked intellectual prowess and possibly no call out fee, if genuinely transcendental. Hope this helps. Main Entry: ge?nius Pronunciation: \?j?n-y?s, ?j?-n?-?s\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural ge?nius?es or ge?nii \-n?-??\ Etymology: Latin, tutelary spirit, natural inclinations, from gignere to beget Date: 1513 1 a plural genii : an attendant spirit of a person or place b plural usually genii : a person who influences another for good or bad 2 : a strong leaning or inclination : penchant 3 a : a peculiar, distinctive, or identifying character or spirit b : the associations and traditions of a place c : a personification or embodiment especially of a quality or condition 4 plural usually genii : spirit, jinni 5 plural usually geniuses a : a single strongly marked capacity or aptitude b : extraordinary intellectual power especially as manifested in creative activity c : a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority; especially : a person with a very high IQ synonyms see gift ? Once you have pure and sincere motivation, all the rest follows.? You can develop this right attitude toward others on the basis of kindness, love and respect, and on the clear realisation of the oneness of all human beings.? This is important because others benefit by this motivation as much as by anything we do. Then, with a pure heart, you can carry on any work....and your profession becomes a real instrument to help the community. Dalai Lama - Insights on Daily Living, Compassion and Justice. ________________________________ From: Robbie Murray To: Norwich Mac User Group list Sent: Tue, 10 November, 2009 13:47:44 Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to Degree? level ... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: I think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told? by my ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it? is Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ --- On Tue, 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine singular noun, the? plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is probably acceptable. A.P. Edant _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 08:23:35 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:23:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Massive Colour Differences In Screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E7B52C3-273F-44EC-B827-DA78B1FA3199@gmail.com> This has changed in snow leopard, the default gamma settings are the same as a pc now On 10 Nov 2009, at 23:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > Mac & PCs have a different default Gamma setting for the monitors. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction#Windows.2C_Mac.2C_sRGB_and_TV.2Fvideo_standard_gammas > > will tell you more than you ever wanted to know. You just have to find > a compromise that looks OK on both. > > regards, > > Paul > > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 20:30, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I am building a website for my wife. I put together a rough front >> page >> and I did it on my PowerBook. >> >> I checked it out on her PC and was disgusted by how different it >> looks. Is there anyway to guard against this. >> >> The colours look nice and pale/pastelish on my PowerBook, but on my >> wifes PC they are bright and garish. Also I used Tahoma as the base >> font, which looks fine on my PowerBook, but on the PC it looks >> horrible and bold fonts are unbold. >> >> How can I stop this happening. I thought Tahoma was suitable for both >> Mac and Windows. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 11 08:47:19 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:47:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFA7A17.8020507@stackyard.org> Tony, When you say that this is your first Mac, I presume that you have used Windows in the past. If I am correct, you will find that the yellow button is just like the minimize button on a Windows window (top right corner, left-most button) and when clicked, the behaviour is the same as in Windows except the window is minimized to the dock instead of into a task bar. Ken Tony Hall wrote: > Hello! > > As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac Operating > system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one > little thing which I can't understand. > > Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it > disappears. As if it has melted! > > This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? > > Cheers, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 11 08:52:23 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:52:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It minimises the window - have a look in the dock! Just click and it will appear again. (You can change how it does it using 'effect' in Dock Preferences) Robbie Robbie Murray 01603 620749 01603 516175 07882 007667 macman at f2s.com On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:57, Tony Hall wrote: Hello! As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac Operating system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one little thing which I can't understand. Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it disappears. As if it has melted! This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? Cheers, Tony _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 11:17:01 2009 From: tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com (Tony Hall) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:17:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know what you mean by 'have a look in the dock'. I used a search engine to search for this, but all it returned was information about boats. My son works in the Navy but he emailed me back saying he only uses Windows machines and so doesn't know. Could someone please explain? 2009/11/11 Robbie Murray > It minimises the window - have a look in the dock! > > Just click and it will appear again. (You can change how it does it > using 'effect' in Dock Preferences) > > Robbie > > > > > > > > > Robbie Murray > 01603 620749 > 01603 516175 > 07882 007667 > macman at f2s.com > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:57, Tony Hall wrote: > > Hello! > > As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac > Operating > system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one > little thing which I can't understand. > > Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it > disappears. As if it has melted! > > This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? > > Cheers, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 11 11:24:35 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:24:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14308A46-171B-418B-935D-0CEB2E44EE5C@f2s.com> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2474 http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/ On 11 Nov 2009, at 11:17, Tony Hall wrote: I don't know what you mean by 'have a look in the dock'. I used a search engine to search for this, but all it returned was information about boats. My son works in the Navy but he emailed me back saying he only uses Windows machines and so doesn't know. Could someone please explain? 2009/11/11 Robbie Murray > It minimises the window - have a look in the dock! > > Just click and it will appear again. (You can change how it does it > using 'effect' in Dock Preferences) > > Robbie > > > > > > > > > Robbie Murray > 01603 620749 > 01603 516175 > 07882 007667 > macman at f2s.com > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:57, Tony Hall wrote: > > Hello! > > As you may have heard I have a new MacBook. This is my first Mac > Operating > system, and it is confusing me. Everything is fantastic except for one > little thing which I can't understand. > > Whenever I click the 'amber' button in the top-left of a window, it > disappears. As if it has melted! > > This can't be right, can anybody tell me how to fix this? > > Cheers, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From batchsteve at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 11:52:24 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:52:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <382662.74001.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <382662.74001.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7573F670-8F75-415C-AA26-0679B61AB75D@gmail.com> Hi Joe, I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing you, consider what was said and try to learn from it. Apple wants to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their products and also who are good with people (the technical part of the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training). To be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of the role. All the best, Steve. On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: > Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly like "Think Different"! From batchsteve at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 12:02:14 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:02:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> Hi, When you purchased your Mac, inside the box is a little booklet that explains everything you need to know to get started. Once you have leaned the basics of using a Mac and learnt some of the terminology used in the Mac world you will benefit more from the responses to your questions. Steve. On 11 Nov 2009, at 11:17, Tony Hall wrote: > Could someone please explain? From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 11 12:08:08 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:08:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <7573F670-8F75-415C-AA26-0679B61AB75D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <999500.63247.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi There is bit more to it than that!?It was all down to a link on NMUG! I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work if you really believe the Apple hype but?if you like to think for your self not a good place! I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company, I love them!! I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt and harsh! ? Joe ? Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: From: Steve Batch Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 Hi Joe, I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing you, consider what was said and try to learn from it.? Apple wants to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their products and also who are good with people (the technical part of the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training).? To be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of the role. All the best, Steve. On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: > Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly like? "Think Different"! _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 11 12:20:29 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:20:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: <999500.63247.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <999500.63247.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe From what I gathered it was your previous Apple ventures that they got funny about. Personally I would have thought that was a plus side, it shows your dedication to them and their products. I don't think anyone with a genuine interest or love for Apple believe the Apple hype - they see through it. Your people skills are great - a little naive perhaps - but your Apple training should have sorted that out. I have known you for a while, both through the group and personally and you are a great bloke and a credit to the Apple world. Stuff working for Apple. Carry on doing what you are doing and have done in the past. In this economic climate, the Apple tax is too much for most people. Second user Macs are a great place to be and repairing those over 2 years old and out of Apple warranty is something a lot of people want. I thought about applying for a job at the Apple store, but my love of old Macs, hatred of over-priced technicians and my reputation on the web would get in the way. After so many years plugging my site and my help it is a hard ball to stop rolling. My advice Joe is to keep yourself happy. Do what makes you feel good. Simon On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:08, joe butler wrote: > Hi > There is bit more to it than that! It was all down to a link on NMUG! > I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! > It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work > if you really believe the Apple hype but if you like to think for > your self not a good place! > I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company, > I love them!! > I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! > It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to > face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt > and harsh! > > Joe > > > Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: > > > From: Steve Batch > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 > > > > Hi Joe, > > I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment > loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold > environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny > products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their > products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has > happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right > sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing > you, consider what was said and try to learn from it. Apple wants > to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their > products and also who are good with people (the technical part of > the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training). To > be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the > technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of > the role. > > All the best, > Steve. > > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: > >> Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly >> like "Think Different"! > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 11 12:40:28 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:40:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <315746.81175.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Simon The whole Apple store "thing" has if anything has re sparked my love of computers. The trainng was great as where the people I trained with.I forgot how much I love to learn. If I was not pushed I would never have started working for myself agen, something I love doing. Working for Apple is very much a job for the fan boys and girls something I have never been. ? Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 12:20 Joe >From what I gathered it was your previous Apple ventures that they? got funny about. Personally I would have thought that was a plus side,? it shows your dedication to them and their products. I don't think? anyone with a genuine interest or love for Apple believe the Apple? hype - they see through it. Your people skills are great - a little naive perhaps - but your Apple? training should have sorted that out. I have known you for a while,? both through the group and personally and you are a great bloke and a? credit to the Apple world. Stuff working for Apple. Carry on doing what you are doing and have? done in the past. In this economic climate, the Apple tax is too much? for most people. Second user Macs are a great place to be and? repairing those over 2 years old and out of Apple warranty is? something a lot of people want. I thought about applying for a job at the Apple store, but my love of? old Macs, hatred of over-priced technicians and my reputation on the? web would get in the way. After so many years plugging my site and my? help it is a hard ball to stop rolling. My advice Joe is to keep yourself happy. Do what makes you feel good. Simon On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:08, joe butler wrote: > Hi > There is bit more to it than that! It was all down to a link on NMUG! > I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! > It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work? > if you really believe the Apple hype but if you like to think for? > your self not a good place! > I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company,? > I love them!! > I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! > It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to? > face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt? > and harsh! > > Joe > > > Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: > > > From: Steve Batch > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 > > > > Hi Joe, > > I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment? > loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold? > environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny? > products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their? > products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has? > happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right? > sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing? > you, consider what was said and try to learn from it.? Apple wants? > to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their? > products and also who are good with people (the technical part of? > the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training).? To? > be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the? > technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of? > the role. > > All the best, > Steve. > > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: > >> Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly? >> like? "Think Different"! > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 12:51:59 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:51:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> Thanks for your response Brian. I didn't get as much feedback as I'd hoped for and was beginning to wonder if this was a bit of a taboo subject ie it should be easier to copy libraries between different operating systems, but it's actually quite tricky, which doesn't really sit well with the Apple ethos. As things stand, I've used Sharing to move my iTunes library over and it's been a success except I've lost data such as Date Added & Play Count but this is no big problem for me. The main thing is that all the files are in 1 place and I can authorize a 2nd computer. I also copied my iPhoto Library folder from my Tiger iMac to my new MacBook and this also has been successful BUT although albums remain intact, I've lost all the keywording. This again I can live with as I only really use iPhoto as an image browser (doing my image editing in Photoshop) and the disappointment of losing my keywording has been kind of mitigated by using the new Events feature anyway. I was confused about using Migration Assistant. Once you access the "From" computer, the instructions clearly say "make sure your computer has the latest version of Mac OS X installed" which my iMac G5 hasn't - 10.4.11. I checked this with an Apple store genius who seemed vague rather than enlightened. I could have used a firewire cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across the network. Thanks again Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: > Hi Jeremy > If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date > 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider > carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both > library > and files intact. It costs a little. > > If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then > you can > just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import > them. > > Come back on this if you want more info. > http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ > > all the best > Brian > > Jeremy Webb said recently: > >> Hi everyone >> >> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 >> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >> should be straightforward. >> >> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >> >> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 11 12:59:23 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:59:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> Message-ID: Doesn't have to cost that! My last one was 01p + 3.99 P&P, and it's a Philips - cracking good cable. All gone now, but there are inexpensive ones around: http://www.memoryforless.co.uk/store/erol.html Robbie On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:51, Jeremy Webb wrote: I could have used a firewire cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across the network. Thanks again Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: > Hi Jeremy > If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date > 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider > carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both > library > and files intact. It costs a little. > > If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then > you can > just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import > them. > > Come back on this if you want more info. > http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ > > all the best > Brian > > Jeremy Webb said recently: > >> Hi everyone >> >> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 >> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >> should be straightforward. >> >> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >> >> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 11 13:01:15 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:01:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) In-Reply-To: <315746.81175.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <315746.81175.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AFAB59B.2050600@stackyard.org> Joe, I know exactly what you mean. I worked for Sun Microsystems for a couple years because I liked the kit and was a Solaris admin. But the extreme hard-sell environment was agonizing and although, at the time, I was angry when I along with about 6,000 others were let go, I am very relieved now to be out of a situation where marketing was the main objective. Working for oneself is far superior, as you and many others have found out. It's harder but better. Ken joe butler wrote: > Simon > The whole Apple store "thing" has if anything has re sparked my love of computers. The trainng was great as where the people I trained with.I forgot how much I love to learn. > If I was not pushed I would never have started working for myself agen, something I love doing. > Working for Apple is very much a job for the fan boys and girls something I have never been. > > > > Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 12:20 > > > Joe > > >From what I gathered it was your previous Apple ventures that they > got funny about. Personally I would have thought that was a plus side, > it shows your dedication to them and their products. I don't think > anyone with a genuine interest or love for Apple believe the Apple > hype - they see through it. > > Your people skills are great - a little naive perhaps - but your Apple > training should have sorted that out. I have known you for a while, > both through the group and personally and you are a great bloke and a > credit to the Apple world. > > Stuff working for Apple. Carry on doing what you are doing and have > done in the past. In this economic climate, the Apple tax is too much > for most people. Second user Macs are a great place to be and > repairing those over 2 years old and out of Apple warranty is > something a lot of people want. > > I thought about applying for a job at the Apple store, but my love of > old Macs, hatred of over-priced technicians and my reputation on the > web would get in the way. After so many years plugging my site and my > help it is a hard ball to stop rolling. > > My advice Joe is to keep yourself happy. Do what makes you feel good. > > Simon > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:08, joe butler wrote: > > >> Hi >> There is bit more to it than that! It was all down to a link on NMUG! >> I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! >> It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work >> if you really believe the Apple hype but if you like to think for >> your self not a good place! >> I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company, >> I love them!! >> I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! >> It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to >> face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt >> and harsh! >> >> Joe >> >> >> Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu >> >> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: >> >> >> From: Steve Batch >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 >> >> >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment >> loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold >> environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny >> products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their >> products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has >> happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right >> sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing >> you, consider what was said and try to learn from it. Apple wants >> to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their >> products and also who are good with people (the technical part of >> the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training). To >> be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the >> technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of >> the role. >> >> All the best, >> Steve. >> >> >> >> On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: >> >> >>> Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly >>> like "Think Different"! >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 11 13:07:30 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:07:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) In-Reply-To: <4AFAB59B.2050600@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <984567.19785.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Love the title! ? You also get to lay in until 10am! ( unless your girlfriend make you?add loads of fishing tackle to her webshop!) Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Ken Hamer wrote: From: Ken Hamer Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 13:01 Joe, I know exactly what you mean.? I worked for Sun Microsystems for a couple years because I liked the kit and was a Solaris admin.? But the extreme hard-sell environment was agonizing and although, at the time, I was angry when I along with about 6,000 others were let go, I am very relieved now to be out of a situation where marketing was the main objective.? Working for oneself is far superior, as you and many others have found out.? It's harder but better. Ken joe butler wrote: > Simon > The whole Apple store "thing" has if anything has re sparked my love of computers. The trainng was great as where the people I trained with.I forgot how much I love to learn. > If I was not pushed I would never have started working for myself agen, something I love doing. > Working for Apple is very much a job for the fan boys and girls something I have never been. >? > > > Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: > > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 12:20 > > > Joe > > >From what I gathered it was your previous Apple ventures that they? > got funny about. Personally I would have thought that was a plus side,? > it shows your dedication to them and their products. I don't think? > anyone with a genuine interest or love for Apple believe the Apple? > hype - they see through it. > > Your people skills are great - a little naive perhaps - but your Apple? > training should have sorted that out. I have known you for a while,? > both through the group and personally and you are a great bloke and a? > credit to the Apple world. > > Stuff working for Apple. Carry on doing what you are doing and have? > done in the past. In this economic climate, the Apple tax is too much? > for most people. Second user Macs are a great place to be and? > repairing those over 2 years old and out of Apple warranty is? > something a lot of people want. > > I thought about applying for a job at the Apple store, but my love of? > old Macs, hatred of over-priced technicians and my reputation on the? > web would get in the way. After so many years plugging my site and my? > help it is a hard ball to stop rolling. > > My advice Joe is to keep yourself happy. Do what makes you feel good. > > Simon > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:08, joe butler wrote: > >??? >> Hi >> There is bit more to it than that! It was all down to a link on NMUG! >> I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! >> It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work? >> if you really believe the Apple hype but if you like to think for? >> your self not a good place! >> I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company,? >> I love them!! >> I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! >> It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to? >> face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt? >> and harsh! >> >> Joe >> >> >> Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu >> >> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: >> >> >> From: Steve Batch >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 >> >> >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment? >> loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold? >> environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny? >> products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their? >> products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has? >> happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right? >> sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing? >> you, consider what was said and try to learn from it.? Apple wants? >> to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their? >> products and also who are good with people (the technical part of? >> the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training).? To? >> be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the? >> technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of? >> the role. >> >> All the best, >> Steve. >> >> >> >> On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: >> >>? ??? >>> Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly? >>> like? "Think Different"! >>>? ? ??? >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >>? ??? > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > >? ? ??? > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >??? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 13:08:49 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:08:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) In-Reply-To: <4AFAB59B.2050600@stackyard.org> References: <315746.81175.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4AFAB59B.2050600@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <8684FAA8-B095-497F-AEE6-727B4B1C2E73@virgin.net> I agree with the working for yourself bit! I have been self employed for about 38 years now, The first twenty as a Carpenter/ Joiner/builder and when that died in the 1990 recession and the last 19 years doing what I love, as a Photographer. It can be extremely hard, scary, worrying etc. but at least the more effort you put in any rewards are yours & yours alone and not some greedy employers. Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > > > Working for oneself is far superior, as you and many others > have found out. It's harder but better. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 11 13:13:26 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:13:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> Jeremy, No, Migration Assistant is not as pedantic as you think. Don't worry about the state of the old machine (provided it's running something equal to or later than 10.3 - somebody tell me if I'm wrong here). And you don't need a FireWire cable - a network connection will do. You will have to install the Migration Assistant network client on the old machine using the installation media but the instructions should tell you what to do if you choose the network method. You don't even need a router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected and will work fine. This method is quite useful if you have an older machine with a FireWire 400 port and a new machine with FireWire 800 and no appropriate cable. The network method isn't as fast as FireWire but it's not so slow as to be irritating. Migration Assistant will do the lot for you including photo and music libraries and even applications that the new machine doesn't have. Ken Jeremy Webb wrote: > Thanks for your response Brian. I didn't get as much feedback as I'd > hoped for and was beginning to wonder if this was a bit of a taboo > subject ie it should be easier to copy libraries between different > operating systems, but it's actually quite tricky, which doesn't > really sit well with the Apple ethos. > > As things stand, I've used Sharing to move my iTunes library over and > it's been a success except I've lost data such as Date Added & Play > Count but this is no big problem for me. The main thing is that all > the files are in 1 place and I can authorize a 2nd computer. I also > copied my iPhoto Library folder from my Tiger iMac to my new MacBook > and this also has been successful BUT although albums remain intact, > I've lost all the keywording. This again I can live with as I only > really use iPhoto as an image browser (doing my image editing in > Photoshop) and the disappointment of losing my keywording has been > kind of mitigated by using the new Events feature anyway. > > I was confused about using Migration Assistant. Once you access the > "From" computer, the instructions clearly say "make sure your > computer has the latest version of Mac OS X installed" which my iMac > G5 hasn't - 10.4.11. I checked this with an Apple store genius who > seemed vague rather than enlightened. I could have used a firewire > cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the > iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across > the network. > > Thanks again > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: > > >> Hi Jeremy >> If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date >> 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider >> carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both >> library >> and files intact. It costs a little. >> >> If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then >> you can >> just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import >> them. >> >> Come back on this if you want more info. >> http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ >> >> all the best >> Brian >> >> Jeremy Webb said recently: >> >> >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >>> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 >>> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >>> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >>> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >>> should be straightforward. >>> >>> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >>> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >>> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >>> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >>> >>> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>> listinfo/nmug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 11 13:15:14 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:15:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) In-Reply-To: <984567.19785.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <984567.19785.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AFAB8E2.8050702@stackyard.org> uhhhh.... right. Ok. Whatever. joe butler wrote: > Love the title! > > You also get to lay in until 10am! ( unless your girlfriend make you add loads of fishing tackle to her webshop!) > > > Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Ken Hamer wrote: > > > From: Ken Hamer > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? (not me - but I am quite good at looking things up) > To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" > Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 13:01 > > > Joe, > > I know exactly what you mean. I worked for Sun Microsystems for a > couple years because I liked the kit and was a Solaris admin. But the > extreme hard-sell environment was agonizing and although, at the time, I > was angry when I along with about 6,000 others were let go, I am very > relieved now to be out of a situation where marketing was the main > objective. Working for oneself is far superior, as you and many others > have found out. It's harder but better. > > Ken > > joe butler wrote: > >> Simon >> The whole Apple store "thing" has if anything has re sparked my love of computers. The trainng was great as where the people I trained with.I forgot how much I love to learn. >> If I was not pushed I would never have started working for myself agen, something I love doing. >> Working for Apple is very much a job for the fan boys and girls something I have never been. >> >> >> >> Norwich Computer CompanyApple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs..eu >> >> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >> Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 12:20 >> >> >> Joe >> >> >From what I gathered it was your previous Apple ventures that they >> got funny about. Personally I would have thought that was a plus side, >> it shows your dedication to them and their products. I don't think >> anyone with a genuine interest or love for Apple believe the Apple >> hype - they see through it. >> >> Your people skills are great - a little naive perhaps - but your Apple >> training should have sorted that out. I have known you for a while, >> both through the group and personally and you are a great bloke and a >> credit to the Apple world. >> >> Stuff working for Apple. Carry on doing what you are doing and have >> done in the past. In this economic climate, the Apple tax is too much >> for most people. Second user Macs are a great place to be and >> repairing those over 2 years old and out of Apple warranty is >> something a lot of people want. >> >> I thought about applying for a job at the Apple store, but my love of >> old Macs, hatred of over-priced technicians and my reputation on the >> web would get in the way. After so many years plugging my site and my >> help it is a hard ball to stop rolling. >> >> My advice Joe is to keep yourself happy. Do what makes you feel good. >> >> Simon >> >> On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:08, joe butler wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi >>> There is bit more to it than that! It was all down to a link on NMUG! >>> I love apple products but hate Apple as a Company! >>> It was a learning curve to say the least, Its a great place to work >>> if you really believe the Apple hype but if you like to think for >>> your self not a good place! >>> I have no problems with Apple users, I run an Apple repair company, >>> I love them!! >>> I'm more than happy to go into more detail just not on a public group! >>> It may shock you to know but my people skills are very good face to >>> face! I have Dyslexia so my emails sometime come across a bit blunt >>> and harsh! >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairshttp://www.apple-macs.eu >>> >>> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Steve Batch wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Steve Batch >>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? >>> To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" >>> Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 11:52 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Joe, >>> >>> I'm sure that you must be feeling very frustrated at the moment >>> loosing your job during a recession, retail can be a cold >>> environment to work in (even if the outlet is full of shiny >>> products) but try not to take your anger out on apple, their >>> products or the users, instead take some time to reflect on what has >>> happened and ask yourself firstly if retail is realy the right >>> sector for you and secondly if they had their reasons for dismissing >>> you, consider what was said and try to learn from it. Apple wants >>> to employ people that are genuinely enthusiastic about their >>> products and also who are good with people (the technical part of >>> the job can be pretty much taught during your 4 day training). To >>> be honest, going by your recent emails I would say that you have the >>> technical ability but lack some of the other skill requirements of >>> the role. >>> >>> All the best, >>> Steve. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 Nov 2009, at 07:59, joe butler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Its a cool place to work as long as you DON'T do any thing silly >>>> like "Think Different"! >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> .. Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 11 13:26:59 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:26:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <430F32DC-0248-4FAF-9F7E-DD2868AC0ADE@f2s.com> No requirement any more for a crossover then? Things have moved on ..... Robbie On 11 Nov 2009, at 13:13, Ken Hamer wrote: You don't even need a router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected and will work fine. From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 13:57:26 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:57:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> Message-ID: Good job I didn't cough up for that then :-) I think the price quoted was due to it having to be a 6-pin to an 8-pin or something like that. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:59, Robbie Murray wrote: > Doesn't have to cost that! My last one was 01p + 3.99 P&P, and it's > a Philips - cracking good cable. > > All gone now, but there are inexpensive ones around: > > http://www.memoryforless.co.uk/store/erol.html > > > Robbie > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:51, Jeremy Webb wrote: > > I could have used a firewire > cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the > iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across > the network. > > Thanks again > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: > >> Hi Jeremy >> If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date >> 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider >> carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both >> library >> and files intact. It costs a little. >> >> If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then >> you can >> just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import >> them. >> >> Come back on this if you want more info. >> http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ >> >> all the best >> Brian >> >> Jeremy Webb said recently: >> >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >>> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook >>> (9.0.2 >>> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >>> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >>> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >>> should be straightforward. >>> >>> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >>> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >>> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >>> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >>> >>> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>> listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 11 14:17:47 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:17:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> Message-ID: It's the dreaded word 'Belkin' which often results in inflated prices. Some Belkin stuff is good value, but some definitely isn't. Try here for a good price and free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/FW9to6 (Not an endorsement - I've never used them.) On 11 Nov 2009, at 13:57, Jeremy Webb wrote: > Good job I didn't cough up for that then :-) I think the price quoted > was due to it having to be a 6-pin to an 8-pin or something like that. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 14:35:30 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:35:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Thanks Ken I'll probably use this method now to get my old mailboxes over to Mail. All the best Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 11 Nov 2009, at 13:13, Ken Hamer wrote: > Jeremy, > > No, Migration Assistant is not as pedantic as you think. Don't worry > about the state of the old machine (provided it's running something > equal to or later than 10.3 - somebody tell me if I'm wrong here). > And > you don't need a FireWire cable - a network connection will do. You > will have to install the Migration Assistant network client on the old > machine using the installation media but the instructions should tell > you what to do if you choose the network method. You don't even > need a > router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected > and will work fine. This method is quite useful if you have an older > machine with a FireWire 400 port and a new machine with FireWire > 800 and > no appropriate cable. The network method isn't as fast as FireWire > but > it's not so slow as to be irritating. > > Migration Assistant will do the lot for you including photo and music > libraries and even applications that the new machine doesn't have. > > Ken > > Jeremy Webb wrote: >> Thanks for your response Brian. I didn't get as much feedback as I'd >> hoped for and was beginning to wonder if this was a bit of a taboo >> subject ie it should be easier to copy libraries between different >> operating systems, but it's actually quite tricky, which doesn't >> really sit well with the Apple ethos. >> >> As things stand, I've used Sharing to move my iTunes library over and >> it's been a success except I've lost data such as Date Added & Play >> Count but this is no big problem for me. The main thing is that all >> the files are in 1 place and I can authorize a 2nd computer. I also >> copied my iPhoto Library folder from my Tiger iMac to my new MacBook >> and this also has been successful BUT although albums remain intact, >> I've lost all the keywording. This again I can live with as I only >> really use iPhoto as an image browser (doing my image editing in >> Photoshop) and the disappointment of losing my keywording has been >> kind of mitigated by using the new Events feature anyway. >> >> I was confused about using Migration Assistant. Once you access the >> "From" computer, the instructions clearly say "make sure your >> computer has the latest version of Mac OS X installed" which my iMac >> G5 hasn't - 10.4.11. I checked this with an Apple store genius who >> seemed vague rather than enlightened. I could have used a firewire >> cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the >> iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across >> the network. >> >> Thanks again >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jeremy >>> If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date >>> 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider >>> carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both >>> library >>> and files intact. It costs a little. >>> >>> If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then >>> you can >>> just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import >>> them. >>> >>> Come back on this if you want more info. >>> http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ >>> >>> all the best >>> Brian >>> >>> Jeremy Webb said recently: >>> >>> >>>> Hi everyone >>>> >>>> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >>>> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook >>>> (9.0.2 >>>> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >>>> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >>>> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >>>> should be straightforward. >>>> >>>> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >>>> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >>>> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >>>> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >>>> >>>> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeremy Webb >>>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>>> listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>> listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 11 15:12:36 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:12:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <430F32DC-0248-4FAF-9F7E-DD2868AC0ADE@f2s.com> References: <7E4EF87D-C8A9-447A-9984-C572B7E548DF@virgin.net> <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> <430F32DC-0248-4FAF-9F7E-DD2868AC0ADE@f2s.com> Message-ID: <4AFAD464.3090803@stackyard.org> I think the days of Ethernet adapters which are not auto-sensing are gone - thankfully. I haven't needed a crossover cable in a couple years. Robbie Murray wrote: > No requirement any more for a crossover then? Things have moved > on ..... > > > Robbie > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 13:13, Ken Hamer wrote: > > You don't even need a > router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected > and will work fine. > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Wed Nov 11 16:01:25 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:01:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming Message-ID: With the fantastic assistance from a fellow nmug member I am busy scanning some negatives to jpegs. Now they do get named automatically with VueScan programme being used but if I stop then the names start again from 1. If I have a batch of jpegs in a folders is there a simple way of naming sequentially them all at a stroke? Probably not ? but thought that I would ask the group. Kelvin From mail at edmarlodge.co.uk Wed Nov 11 16:08:21 2009 From: mail at edmarlodge.co.uk (Raymond Paine) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:08:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] i Photo resize photos Message-ID: <18B4A805-E46C-4CB9-B63B-8FFC3B3BF1F2@edmarlodge.co.uk> Hi All I have recently purchased i Work 09 and have now installed it. Can any one tell me in i Photo whether I can reduce the size and pixels of photos without cropping.. Or will I have to buy Photoshop. Ray From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Wed Nov 11 16:11:02 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:11:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] i Photo resize photos In-Reply-To: <18B4A805-E46C-4CB9-B63B-8FFC3B3BF1F2@edmarlodge.co.uk> References: <18B4A805-E46C-4CB9-B63B-8FFC3B3BF1F2@edmarlodge.co.uk> Message-ID: I use imagewell and that is superb. Reduce pictures down to almost nothing as far as file size is concerned. Here is the link: http://xtralean.com/ Kelvin On 11 Nov 2009, at 16:08, Raymond Paine wrote: > > Hi All > I have recently purchased i Work 09 and have > now installed it. > Can any one tell me in i Photo whether I can reduce the > size and pixels of photos without cropping.. > Or will I have to buy Photoshop. > > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 16:15:56 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:15:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6771385F-5AB6-401F-A2C8-BE1BFCCE3A3C@virgin.net> Hi Kelvin The stroke you need is in the form of FILE RENAMER for mac. A free download that is absolutely fantastic. I used it last week to renumber 720 dance pictures that I wanted to start from number 100 on. It took about 10 seconds! Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > With the fantastic assistance from a fellow nmug member I am busy > scanning some negatives to jpegs. > Now they do get named automatically with VueScan programme being > used but if I stop then the names start again from 1. > > If I have a batch of jpegs in a folders is there a simple way of > naming sequentially them all at a stroke? > Probably not ? but thought that I would ask the group. > Kelvin From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Wed Nov 11 16:24:19 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:24:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: <6771385F-5AB6-401F-A2C8-BE1BFCCE3A3C@virgin.net> References: <6771385F-5AB6-401F-A2C8-BE1BFCCE3A3C@virgin.net> Message-ID: Wow - that works a treat and worthy of a donation. (Sorry Martin, to the developer, not yourself) Kelvin > > Hi Kelvin > > The stroke you need is in the form of FILE RENAMER for mac. A free > download that is absolutely fantastic. I used it last week to > renumber 720 dance pictures that I wanted to start from number 100 on. > > It took about 10 seconds! > > Martin From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Nov 11 16:32:17 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:32:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: References: <6771385F-5AB6-401F-A2C8-BE1BFCCE3A3C@virgin.net> Message-ID: <97A13785-E815-468C-AFEC-2BE163960F34@virgin.net> I am always open to donations! Martin > Wow - that works a treat and worthy of a donation. (Sorry Martin, to > the developer, not yourself) > > Kelvin >> >> Hi Kelvin >> >> The stroke you need is in the form of FILE RENAMER for mac. A free >> download that is absolutely fantastic. I used it last week to >> renumber 720 dance pictures that I wanted to start from number 100 >> on. >> >> It took about 10 seconds! >> >> Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 17:02:12 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38E48DCD-3477-472C-B7C0-439F0B6AB47F@googlemail.com> Kelvin You could create an Automator action to batch rename the photos. This is if you are on Leopard or Snow Leopard. Regards Simon Bainbridge On 11 Nov 2009, at 16:01, Kelvin Youngs wrote: > With the fantastic assistance from a fellow nmug member I am busy > scanning some negatives to jpegs. > Now they do get named automatically with VueScan programme being > used but if I stop then the names start again from 1. > > If I have a batch of jpegs in a folders is there a simple way of > naming sequentially them all at a stroke? > Probably not ? but thought that I would ask the group. > Kelvin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 11 17:10:20 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:10:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Announcements List Message-ID: Hi All, Someone suggested that a low-volume announcements-only list might be useful for people who can't cope with the volume of messages in here. It might also help everyone by separating out the important stuff (meeting times, places, changes) from the general chat. So - I've created a new list, and I'm going to add EVERYONE on the main list to the announcements list. But it not good practice to add people to mailing lists without them knowing about it, so here's your notice - sometime tomorrow afternoon I'll be adding everyone. If you don't want* to be added to the announcements list LET ME KNOW by private email before (say) mid-day tomorrow. Thanks, Paul *I can't think of a good reason why you'd want to miss the announcements, but I suppose some people might only want the chat! From munkt0n at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 17:12:38 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:12:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: <38E48DCD-3477-472C-B7C0-439F0B6AB47F@googlemail.com> References: <38E48DCD-3477-472C-B7C0-439F0B6AB47F@googlemail.com> Message-ID: for those feeling brave, you can fire up Terminal.app and do something like this - $ cd /path/to/your/photos $ for i in *.jpg; do let j+=1 ; mv $i my_renamed_photo$j.jpg ; done this will rename a folder full of jpgs to my_renamed_photo1.jpg, my_renamed_photo2.jpg .... On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Gmail <2003r2tech at googlemail.com> wrote: > Kelvin > > You could create an Automator action to batch rename the photos. This > is if you are on Leopard or Snow Leopard. > > Regards > > Simon Bainbridge > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 16:01, Kelvin Youngs wrote: > >> With the fantastic assistance from a fellow nmug member I am busy >> scanning some negatives to jpegs. >> Now they do get named automatically with VueScan programme being >> used but if I stop then the names start again from 1. >> >> If I have a batch of jpegs in a folders is there a simple way of >> naming sequentially them all at a stroke? >> Probably not ? but thought that I would ask the group. >> Kelvin >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From jill at 2js.org Wed Nov 11 17:22:34 2009 From: jill at 2js.org (Jill Searle) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:22:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Latest update Message-ID: Hi My troubles with 10.6 & my new Macbook Pro - Last software update was for an Epson driver - It actually deleted my driver & I had to go to Epson & download a new one I have just updated to 10.6.2 as advised by Apple to solve syncing problems to find that my monitor does not work! I checked the list of fixes & apparently 10.6.2 says "Graphics fixes provided for" It is supposed to resolve ? "an issue when connecting monitors to DVI and Mini DisplayPort adapters " I have just found that my monitor that worked quite happily before the update with a DVI and Mini Display Port adapters has just stopped working; however it will work with a VGA cable & adaptor. Is it the software or could my cable have just developed a fault? It took me a while to realise the message " The disk was not ejected properly" when I closed the lid referred to Timemachine, is that normal - Oh more problems as I type my keyboard & screen are are now have fluctuating light levels. Does not look good back so to Apple? Jill From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 11 17:39:14 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:39:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Latest update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jill, Closing the lid should put the MacBook Pro to sleep, ejecting the Time Machine disk first. I've just checked with mine, and that does seem to happen - no warning about improperly ejected disks when it woke. Keyboard light level is supposed to adjust for ambient light conditions. I'm not sure where the light sensor is, but could something be covering it up, causing the keyboard light to dim. I didn't think the backlight auto-adjusted for ambient light conditions, but I could be wrong. It sounds like you should write down a list of your current problems, make sure you can reproduce them on your macbook pro (writing down steps to take to show problem), and then make an appointment with the Apple Store. It might be you have a hardware problem. regards, Paul On 11 Nov 2009, at 17:22, Jill Searle wrote: > Hi > My troubles with 10.6 & my new Macbook Pro - Last software update > was for an Epson driver - It actually deleted my driver & I had to > go to Epson & download a new one > > I have just updated to 10.6.2 as advised by Apple to solve syncing > problems to find that my monitor does not work! I checked the list > of fixes & apparently 10.6.2 says > > "Graphics fixes provided for" It is supposed to resolve ? "an issue > when connecting monitors to DVI and Mini DisplayPort adapters " I > have just found that my monitor that worked quite happily before the > update with a DVI and Mini Display Port adapters has just stopped > working; however it will work with a VGA cable & adaptor. Is it the > software or could my cable have just developed a fault? > > It took me a while to realise the message " The disk was not ejected > properly" when I closed the lid referred to Timemachine, is that > normal - Oh more problems as I type my keyboard & screen are are now > have fluctuating light levels. Does not look good back so to Apple? > > Jill > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Nov 11 17:40:18 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: <4AFAB876.1060103@stackyard.org> Message-ID: I couldn't get Migration assistant to work over Ethernet between a new iMac and Powerbook G4 running 10.3.x In theory I should have been able to update specific software on G4 and it should have then worked - but it didn't pan out - so I got a 6 to 9 pin Firewire cable for under a fiver and used that. iTunes and iPhoto Libraries: If transferring everything over then Migration Assistant is the way to go. Otherwise, as I said - it is easy to copy the files themselves and re import into their respective programs - but to move with the metadata intact - (I believe) you need iTunes Library Manager or iPhoto Library Manager (or similar programs). These programs can duplicate your whole library intact to another Mac (or volume or location on the same volume) - or indeed any part of it (if you wanted different Libraries for different purposes). all the best Brian Ken Hamer said recently: > Jeremy, > > No, Migration Assistant is not as pedantic as you think. Don't worry > about the state of the old machine (provided it's running something > equal to or later than 10.3 - somebody tell me if I'm wrong here). And > you don't need a FireWire cable - a network connection will do. You > will have to install the Migration Assistant network client on the old > machine using the installation media but the instructions should tell > you what to do if you choose the network method. You don't even need a > router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected > and will work fine. This method is quite useful if you have an older > machine with a FireWire 400 port and a new machine with FireWire 800 and > no appropriate cable. The network method isn't as fast as FireWire but > it's not so slow as to be irritating. > > Migration Assistant will do the lot for you including photo and music > libraries and even applications that the new machine doesn't have. > > Ken > > Jeremy Webb wrote: >> Thanks for your response Brian. I didn't get as much feedback as I'd >> hoped for and was beginning to wonder if this was a bit of a taboo >> subject ie it should be easier to copy libraries between different >> operating systems, but it's actually quite tricky, which doesn't >> really sit well with the Apple ethos. >> >> As things stand, I've used Sharing to move my iTunes library over and >> it's been a success except I've lost data such as Date Added & Play >> Count but this is no big problem for me. The main thing is that all >> the files are in 1 place and I can authorize a 2nd computer. I also >> copied my iPhoto Library folder from my Tiger iMac to my new MacBook >> and this also has been successful BUT although albums remain intact, >> I've lost all the keywording. This again I can live with as I only >> really use iPhoto as an image browser (doing my image editing in >> Photoshop) and the disappointment of losing my keywording has been >> kind of mitigated by using the new Events feature anyway. >> >> I was confused about using Migration Assistant. Once you access the >> "From" computer, the instructions clearly say "make sure your >> computer has the latest version of Mac OS X installed" which my iMac >> G5 hasn't - 10.4.11. I checked this with an Apple store genius who >> seemed vague rather than enlightened. I could have used a firewire >> cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the >> iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across >> the network. >> >> Thanks again >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jeremy >>> If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date >>> 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider >>> carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both >>> library >>> and files intact. It costs a little. >>> >>> If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then >>> you can >>> just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import >>> them. >>> >>> Come back on this if you want more info. >>> http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ >>> >>> all the best >>> Brian >>> >>> Jeremy Webb said recently: >>> >>> >>>> Hi everyone >>>> >>>> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >>>> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 >>>> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >>>> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >>>> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >>>> should be straightforward. >>>> >>>> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >>>> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >>>> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >>>> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >>>> >>>> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeremy Webb >>>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>>> listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>> listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 11 17:58:43 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:58:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Small External Drive Message-ID: <3976B4D9-A103-4047-9632-00946420BF5C@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. I am looking to back up everything that is important on my PowerBook. 2GB of photos 1GB of files like word docs, pics 1GB of videos 2GB of games 500MB of downloads So that is 6.5GB. I want something small and portable. I also want something reliable. Would I be better going for an external hard drive or a flash/thumb drive? I would need to be able to read/write to this drive under Windows and Ubuntu as well as Mac and pressume HFS+ is not the best format. Would NTFS be better, I have NTFS-3G install on my Mac so can already do it under Leopard. Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Nov 11 18:00:50 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] geniuses and genii - essential crossword trivia In-Reply-To: <49364.17918.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Genius has obviously tended to become more in usage as a special sort of intellectual or artist rather than refer to a specific aspect of all of us - and has become perhaps further devalued by being used for 'tech support assistant' - though some of them might have a flair or genius for feeling out the essence of a problem and responding appropriately. Another similarly devalued term in the same sort of ball park is Guru. However I found it interesting to read all the definitions as they map out quite a lot about the human mind - which has an aspect of underlying genius even it it works unknown in the background and rarely called into surface consciousness. all the best Brian julia cazorla said recently: > For anyone who is still interested in the plural of genius and whether Apple > is staffed by any, I've pasted the Webster's definition below: in it's > original usage it means a guiding spirit, with Latin plural of genii?- there's > a quote in Anthony and Cleopatra about Mark Anthony's genius (guardian spirit) > having left him, as explanation for his losses in battle. With a plural of > geniuses, see definition 5, it means a person endowed with transcendent mental > superiority. So the first kind of genius would be influential (but no > gurantee of beneficial outcome), and the second would have marked intellectual > prowess and possibly no call out fee, if genuinely transcendental. Hope this > helps. Main Entry: ge?nius Pronunciation: \?j?n-y?s, ?j?-n?-?s\ Function: > noun Inflected Form(s): plural ge?nius?es or ge?nii \-n?-??\ Etymology: > Latin, tutelary spirit, natural inclinations, from gignere to beget Date: > 1513 1 a plural genii : an attendant spirit of a person or place b plural > usually genii : a person who influences another for good or bad 2 : a strong > leaning or inclination : penchant 3 a : a peculiar, distinctive, or > identifying character or spirit b : the associations and traditions of a place > c : a personification or embodiment especially of a quality or condition 4 > plural usually genii : spirit, jinni 5 plural usually geniuses a : a single > strongly marked capacity or aptitude ? Mary Ross> b : extraordinary intellectual power especially as manifested in > creative activity c : a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority; > especially : a person with a very high IQ synonyms see gift ? Once you have > pure and sincere motivation, all the rest follows.? You can develop this right > attitude toward others on the basis of kindness, love and respect, and on the > clear realisation of the oneness of all human beings.? This is important > because others benefit by this motivation as much as by anything we do. Then, > with a pure heart, you can carry on any work....and your profession becomes a > real instrument to help the community. Dalai Lama - Insights on Daily Living, > Compassion and Justice. ________________________________ From: Robbie > Murray To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Sent: Tue, 10 November, 2009 13:47:44 Subject: Re: [NMUG] > who is a genius? Can't really argue with that: I only studied Latin up to > Degree? level ... Robbie On 10 Nov 2009, at 13:18, joe butler wrote: I > think you will find genii has a difrent meaning in latin, I was told? by my > ACMT trainer but have now forgot, I may be wrong but im sure it? is > Genuis's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk Iphone > and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance Get your own FREE mobile > phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ --- On Tue, > 10/11/09, Robbie Murray wrote: From: Robbie Murray > Subject: Re: [NMUG] who is a genius? To: "Norwich Mac User > Group list" Date: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, > 11:42 Absolutely correct, nor is 'Genius' in Applespeak the same thing > as genius. Further, as it is derived from a Latin first-person masculine > singular noun, the? plural should probably be genii, but 'geniuses' is > probably acceptable. A.P. > Edant _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG > list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list > to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 11 18:10:03 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:10:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Small External Drive In-Reply-To: <3976B4D9-A103-4047-9632-00946420BF5C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <3976B4D9-A103-4047-9632-00946420BF5C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <90DBC3F3-416F-49C4-AD55-5101BDF5B1BF@durrant.co.uk> I'd suggest burning some DVD-Rs (two should hold the lot) as well as any other storage method. You don't want to end up with only one copy of any digital data. USB Flash or SD cards should work very well. 8GB of either costs about ?10 these days. http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/11984504/Play-com-8GB-USB-Flash-Drive/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:11984504%7Ccat:Flash+Drives http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/5607318/PNY-8GB-Optima-High-Speed-SD-HC-Card/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:5607318%7Ccat:Memory+Cards Flash is likely to be as reliable as hard disk, IMO. regards, Paul On 11 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I am looking to back up everything that is important on my PowerBook. > > 2GB of photos > 1GB of files like word docs, pics > 1GB of videos > 2GB of games > 500MB of downloads > > So that is 6.5GB. I want something small and portable. I also want > something reliable. > > Would I be better going for an external hard drive or a flash/thumb > drive? > > I would need to be able to read/write to this drive under Windows and > Ubuntu as well as Mac and pressume HFS+ is not the best format. Would > NTFS be better, I have NTFS-3G install on my Mac so can already do it > under Leopard. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 18:52:37 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:52:37 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Jill Searle: lots of Pro problems Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:22:34 +0000 From: Jill Searle Subject: [NMUG] Latest update lots of Pro problems.. If these indeed are more than user teething problems my advice would be to ask Apple for a completely new, boxed machine. It is not your job to help diagnose what may be a rogue lemon. You are entitled to trouble free computing. Apple knows this and I am sure would not want to pass you off with a lemon. If you're convinced the problems are Apple's, make a list, see the manager and firmly ask for a replacement. If he demurs, suggest the adverse publicity that will follow his refusal will cost a lot more than the replacement you require. You can let him know for starters a few hundred good folks on this list - which may or may not include one or more geniuses - are watching what he does with interest. If he asks for one more go at fixing, you might agree but only if he gives you a loaner and clones your disk onto it. You've chosen a premier computer from the premier manufacturer. It's Apple's job to deliver on all its promises. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 11 19:34:06 2009 From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:34:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> References: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A6F9A15-FE12-4AD0-BA15-5C566FCF1F25@ntlworld.com> Funny posts Tony, which appear to have gone over some people's heads. Glasses disapeared, son in navy trying to help with the dock. Your sense of humour struck a chord. Welcome to NMUG. Keep them coming. On 11 Nov 2009, at 12:02, Steve Batch wrote: > Hi, > > When you purchased your Mac, inside the box is a little booklet that explains everything you need to know to get started. > > Once you have leaned the basics of using a Mac and learnt some of the terminology used in the Mac world you will benefit more from the responses to your questions. > > Steve. > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 11:17, Tony Hall wrote: > >> Could someone please explain? > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 11 19:52:58 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:52:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: <9A6F9A15-FE12-4AD0-BA15-5C566FCF1F25@ntlworld.com> References: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> <9A6F9A15-FE12-4AD0-BA15-5C566FCF1F25@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <08C5EDC3-44DB-414F-B0ED-EBF13CE729A2@mac.com> I'm not so sure - I think Tony is genuinely puzzled. I would hope we could help him sensitively. If you do need more help, Tony, please keep the questions coming. Don't feel inhibited by any sharp replies - sometimes simple questions are the most difficult to answer. We should always remember that there are many people who come here who are as ignorant of the Mac platform as we all were once. Expertise is ignorance forgotten. On 11 Nov 2009, at 19:34, Phil Charnley wrote: > Funny posts Tony, which appear to have gone over some people's heads. > Glasses disapeared, son in navy trying to help with the dock. Your sense of humour struck a chord. > Welcome to NMUG. Keep them coming. > From djpbet at polbet.co.uk Wed Nov 11 20:47:38 2009 From: djpbet at polbet.co.uk (Betty Pooley) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:38 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Latest update References: Message-ID: <8652393F24B34101A924C4B1E928A78D@HPLAPTOP> Hello Paul I am finding the information coming through on these emails amazing but somewhat overwhelming. When I am recovered from a hip replacement op three weeks ago I intend to come along to some of the meetings. However in the meantime will you kindly edit the list to amend my email address to bettypooley at yahoo.co.uk. Many thanks Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Durrant" To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [NMUG] Latest update Hi Jill, Closing the lid should put the MacBook Pro to sleep, ejecting the Time Machine disk first. I've just checked with mine, and that does seem to happen - no warning about improperly ejected disks when it woke. Keyboard light level is supposed to adjust for ambient light conditions. I'm not sure where the light sensor is, but could something be covering it up, causing the keyboard light to dim. I didn't think the backlight auto-adjusted for ambient light conditions, but I could be wrong. It sounds like you should write down a list of your current problems, make sure you can reproduce them on your macbook pro (writing down steps to take to show problem), and then make an appointment with the Apple Store. It might be you have a hardware problem. regards, Paul On 11 Nov 2009, at 17:22, Jill Searle wrote: > Hi > My troubles with 10.6 & my new Macbook Pro - Last software update > was for an Epson driver - It actually deleted my driver & I had to > go to Epson & download a new one > > I have just updated to 10.6.2 as advised by Apple to solve syncing > problems to find that my monitor does not work! I checked the list > of fixes & apparently 10.6.2 says > > "Graphics fixes provided for" It is supposed to resolve ? "an issue > when connecting monitors to DVI and Mini DisplayPort adapters " I > have just found that my monitor that worked quite happily before the > update with a DVI and Mini Display Port adapters has just stopped > working; however it will work with a VGA cable & adaptor. Is it the > software or could my cable have just developed a fault? > > It took me a while to realise the message " The disk was not ejected > properly" when I closed the lid referred to Timemachine, is that > normal - Oh more problems as I type my keyboard & screen are are now > have fluctuating light levels. Does not look good back so to Apple? > > Jill > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rob at atvetsystems.com Wed Nov 11 21:16:13 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Small External Drive In-Reply-To: <3976B4D9-A103-4047-9632-00946420BF5C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <3976B4D9-A103-4047-9632-00946420BF5C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <7F601781-926C-4356-A778-457CB9FD1BE3@atvetsystems.com> Hello, Simon, As you're moving to Linux then you could try a LaCie Ethernet disk, these usually support NFS, FTP and AFP so would allow Linux to access and use the device as well. Regards, Rob. On 11 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I am looking to back up everything that is important on my PowerBook. > > 2GB of photos > 1GB of files like word docs, pics > 1GB of videos > 2GB of games > 500MB of downloads > > So that is 6.5GB. I want something small and portable. I also want > something reliable. > > Would I be better going for an external hard drive or a flash/thumb > drive? > > I would need to be able to read/write to this drive under Windows and > Ubuntu as well as Mac and pressume HFS+ is not the best format. Would > NTFS be better, I have NTFS-3G install on my Mac so can already do it > under Leopard. > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Nov 11 21:38:54 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:38:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] photo naming In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kelvin Graphic Converter is one way of easily doing this. I think it is still fully functioning shareware - with a small delay? There are other ways to batch reneame. Horses for courses! all the best Brian Kelvin Youngs said recently: > With the fantastic assistance from a fellow nmug member I am busy scanning > some negatives to jpegs. > Now they do get named automatically with VueScan programme being used but if I > stop then the names start again from 1. > > If I have a batch of jpegs in a folders is there a simple way of naming > sequentially them all at a stroke? > Probably not ? but thought that I would ask the group. > Kelvin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 11 21:41:48 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:41:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I Could Be Leaving You All Message-ID: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. I have been thinking a lot of the past few weeks and I am cutting down on my computing. I just dont have the same passion for it as I used to. I dont even have the same enthusiasm for Macs as I used to. I thinking of getting a 10" netbook, installing Ubuntu and leaving the Mac world. I'll be pulling down my site, my blog, stopping writing for Mac sites, changing my email address to a free gmail/yahoo/live address and cancelling my domain. Without a Mac, there would be little point in continuing to be a member of NMUG. I don't know how far I will take it yet. I have been given an oldish laptop which I am going to run Ubuntu on for now to see if I really get on with it. If I don't I'll keep my PowerBook and obviously stay on the group. If I love Ubuntu then it's goodbye. Regards Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 11 22:09:57 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:09:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I Could Be Leaving You All In-Reply-To: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <99779F85-AB2A-486F-97D1-4D294E38E0C5@ntlworld.com> Can I just say good luck with Linux, I'm an ex user of Linux on and off since about 1999, I did find it very stable and although many printers, scanners etc and more in important pc hardware such as newer graphics cards are not always supported, I did play more with Suse and what use to be Mandrake. one of my kids has an old laptop that I put Linux on because it only had a 30gb hard drive which would run out of room once windows had completed it's updates etc lol, he uses it on the net for music (legal sites). and that installed and picked up the network (wireless) with no problems at all, but I would rather have my Mac any day even if it did cost and hell of lot more ?'s. Good luck Kerin On 11 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I have been thinking a lot of the past few weeks and I am cutting down > on my computing. I just dont have the same passion for it as I used > to. I dont even have the same enthusiasm for Macs as I used to. > > I thinking of getting a 10" netbook, installing Ubuntu and leaving the > Mac world. I'll be pulling down my site, my blog, stopping writing for > Mac sites, changing my email address to a free gmail/yahoo/live > address and cancelling my domain. > > Without a Mac, there would be little point in continuing to be a > member of NMUG. I don't know how far I will take it yet. I have been > given an oldish laptop which I am going to run Ubuntu on for now to > see if I really get on with it. If I don't I'll keep my PowerBook and > obviously stay on the group. If I love Ubuntu then it's goodbye. > > Regards > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From batchsteve at googlemail.com Wed Nov 11 22:49:16 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:49:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I Could Be Leaving You All In-Reply-To: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <3A5CB5E9-4F00-4873-9709-FFBA2BC667B9@gmail.com> Hope the netbook with Ubuntu works out for you. Here's your new home: Steve. On 11 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Simon Royal wrote: > I have been thinking a lot of the past few weeks and I am cutting down > on my computing. I just dont have the same passion for it as I used > to. I dont even have the same enthusiasm for Macs as I used to. > > I thinking of getting a 10" netbook, installing Ubuntu and leaving the > Mac world. I'll be pulling down my site, my blog, stopping writing for > Mac sites, changing my email address to a free gmail/yahoo/live > address and cancelling my domain. > > Without a Mac, there would be little point in continuing to be a > member of NMUG. I don't know how far I will take it yet. I have been > given an oldish laptop which I am going to run Ubuntu on for now to > see if I really get on with it. If I don't I'll keep my PowerBook and > obviously stay on the group. If I love Ubuntu then it's goodbye. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 11 23:06:19 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:06:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I Could Be Leaving You All In-Reply-To: <3A5CB5E9-4F00-4873-9709-FFBA2BC667B9@gmail.com> References: <42196D91-3DC9-423C-B9C8-42FCBB9684FD@simonroyal.co.uk> <3A5CB5E9-4F00-4873-9709-FFBA2BC667B9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67E13334-2072-4E9D-B126-11EE099B0E77@simonroyal.co.uk> Steve Already joined. Simon On 11 Nov 2009, at 22:49, Steve Batch wrote: > > Hope the netbook with Ubuntu works out for you. > > Here's your new home: > > Steve. > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Simon Royal wrote: > >> I have been thinking a lot of the past few weeks and I am cutting >> down >> on my computing. I just dont have the same passion for it as I used >> to. I dont even have the same enthusiasm for Macs as I used to. >> >> I thinking of getting a 10" netbook, installing Ubuntu and leaving >> the >> Mac world. I'll be pulling down my site, my blog, stopping writing >> for >> Mac sites, changing my email address to a free gmail/yahoo/live >> address and cancelling my domain. >> >> Without a Mac, there would be little point in continuing to be a >> member of NMUG. I don't know how far I will take it yet. I have been >> given an oldish laptop which I am going to run Ubuntu on for now to >> see if I really get on with it. If I don't I'll keep my PowerBook and >> obviously stay on the group. If I love Ubuntu then it's goodbye. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Nov 12 01:39:51 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:39:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] copying iTunes and iPhoto libraries to new mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFB6767.9050804@stackyard.org> According to the Apple support pages, it looks like there are quite a few situations where Migration Assistant will fail when using the network method. I may have just been lucky the time I used it to migrate from a G4 iMac running 10.4 to a new(ish) iMac - it worked perfectly. Ken Brian Steere wrote: > I couldn't get Migration assistant to work over Ethernet between a new iMac > and Powerbook G4 running 10.3.x In theory I should have been able to update > specific software on G4 and it should have then worked - but it didn't pan > out - so I got a 6 to 9 pin Firewire cable for under a fiver and used that. > > > iTunes and iPhoto Libraries: > > If transferring everything over then Migration Assistant is the way to go. > > Otherwise, as I said - it is easy to copy the files themselves and re import > into their respective programs - but to move with the metadata intact - (I > believe) you need iTunes Library Manager or iPhoto Library Manager (or > similar programs). > > These programs can duplicate your whole library intact to another Mac (or > volume or location on the same volume) - or indeed any part of it (if you > wanted different Libraries for different purposes). > > all the best > Brian > > > Ken Hamer said recently: > > >> Jeremy, >> >> No, Migration Assistant is not as pedantic as you think. Don't worry >> about the state of the old machine (provided it's running something >> equal to or later than 10.3 - somebody tell me if I'm wrong here). And >> you don't need a FireWire cable - a network connection will do. You >> will have to install the Migration Assistant network client on the old >> machine using the installation media but the instructions should tell >> you what to do if you choose the network method. You don't even need a >> router, just a simple network cable between machines will be detected >> and will work fine. This method is quite useful if you have an older >> machine with a FireWire 400 port and a new machine with FireWire 800 and >> no appropriate cable. The network method isn't as fast as FireWire but >> it's not so slow as to be irritating. >> >> Migration Assistant will do the lot for you including photo and music >> libraries and even applications that the new machine doesn't have. >> >> Ken >> >> Jeremy Webb wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your response Brian. I didn't get as much feedback as I'd >>> hoped for and was beginning to wonder if this was a bit of a taboo >>> subject ie it should be easier to copy libraries between different >>> operating systems, but it's actually quite tricky, which doesn't >>> really sit well with the Apple ethos. >>> >>> As things stand, I've used Sharing to move my iTunes library over and >>> it's been a success except I've lost data such as Date Added & Play >>> Count but this is no big problem for me. The main thing is that all >>> the files are in 1 place and I can authorize a 2nd computer. I also >>> copied my iPhoto Library folder from my Tiger iMac to my new MacBook >>> and this also has been successful BUT although albums remain intact, >>> I've lost all the keywording. This again I can live with as I only >>> really use iPhoto as an image browser (doing my image editing in >>> Photoshop) and the disappointment of losing my keywording has been >>> kind of mitigated by using the new Events feature anyway. >>> >>> I was confused about using Migration Assistant. Once you access the >>> "From" computer, the instructions clearly say "make sure your >>> computer has the latest version of Mac OS X installed" which my iMac >>> G5 hasn't - 10.4.11. I checked this with an Apple store genius who >>> seemed vague rather than enlightened. I could have used a firewire >>> cable cable I guess (if I shelled out ?25 for it!) and started the >>> iMac in Target Mode but in the end I just used Sharing to copy across >>> the network. >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:37, Brian Steere wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Jeremy >>>> If you want your Library - with all its specific fields such as date >>>> 'added', recently played and similar info, then you need to consider >>>> carefully. I have used iPhoto Library Manager to move and keep both >>>> library >>>> and files intact. It costs a little. >>>> >>>> If you are only bothered to move your mp3 and similar files then >>>> you can >>>> just drag copy them to a new location on another Mac, then import >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Come back on this if you want more info. >>>> http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ >>>> >>>> all the best >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> Jeremy Webb said recently: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone provide advice or a decent link to help me copy my old >>>>> iTunes library (9.0.2 in OS 10.4.11) of 12GB to my new Macbook (9.0.2 >>>>> in Snow Leopard)? I have found some useful articles but before I >>>>> embark I'd like to check in with my local experts first :-) just >>>>> incase I'm missing something simple. This is Apple right? so it >>>>> should be straightforward. >>>>> >>>>> Also, any advice please on copying my iPhoto 5.0.4 library to new >>>>> laptop. Is this simply a case of copying the iPhoto Library from >>>>> "Pictures" in Tiger Finder window and then using File > Import to >>>>> Library in my new version of iPhoto? >>>>> >>>>> a bit rusty I'm afraid....any feedback gratefully received. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy Webb >>>>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>>>> listinfo/nmug >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >>>> listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From michelehurst at mac.com Thu Nov 12 08:28:24 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:28:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone Message-ID: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as apparently apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! Michele Sent from Michele's iPhone From macman at f2s.com Thu Nov 12 08:52:36 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:52:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: It's not that simple - Flash has drawbacks including heavy battery drain and sluggish browsing, but they do say they're working on it. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/10/iphone-flash/ There is a school of thought among those who generally know, that Flash is already old hat, and will be obselete when Web 3.0 comes along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0QJmmdw3b0 Robbie On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as apparently apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! Michele Sent from Michele's iPhone _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Thu Nov 12 10:35:18 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:35:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> Message-ID: <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: sales at macking.co.uk > Date: 12 November 2009 09:55:06 GMT > To: "Heather Tamplin" > Subject: Black MacBooks ?499 today only > > > We have an incredible offer ONLY on the 12th November while stocks > last! > > INCREDIBLE Black MacBooks 2GHz, 80GB, 2GB RAM just ?499.99 > including VAT and Delivery. > > We only have about 30 left and these are selling seriously fast, so > hurry! > > http://www.macking.co.uk/black-macbook-2ghz-core-80gb-superdrive- > p-1034.html > > Buy before 14:30 for next day delivery (Friday 13th November) > > Any questions, drop me an email or call 0843 289 KING. > > Thanks, > > Mac King > Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 12 11:22:34 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:22:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?__Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Dear Heather, Thank you!! Just bought one! Best wishes, David >Begin forwarded message: > >> From: sales at macking.co.uk >> Date: 12 November 2009 09:55:06 GMT >> To: "Heather Tamplin" >> Subject: Black MacBooks ?499 today only >> >> >> We have an incredible offer ONLY on the 12th November while stocks >> last! >> >> INCREDIBLE Black MacBooks 2GHz, 80GB, 2GB RAM just ?499.99 >> including VAT and Delivery. >> >> We only have about 30 left and these are selling seriously fast, so >> hurry! >> > > http://www.macking.co.uk/black-macbook-2ghz-core-80gb-superdrive- > > p-1034.html >> >> Buy before 14:30 for next day delivery (Friday 13th November) >> >> Any questions, drop me an email or call 0843 289 KING. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mac King >> > >Heather Tamplin > >www.heathertamplin.co.uk > >"Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." >Twyla Tharp > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 11:27:50 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:27:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: sounds good, never heard of 'macking' before, and I find it hard to trust a website with no address listed On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Heather Tamplin wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: sales at macking.co.uk >> Date: 12 November 2009 09:55:06 GMT >> To: "Heather Tamplin" >> Subject: Black MacBooks ?499 today only >> >> >> We have an incredible offer ONLY on the 12th November while stocks >> last! >> >> INCREDIBLE Black MacBooks 2GHz, 80GB, 2GB RAM just ?499.99 >> including VAT and Delivery. >> >> We only have about 30 left and these are selling seriously fast, so >> hurry! >> >> http://www.macking.co.uk/black-macbook-2ghz-core-80gb-superdrive- >> p-1034.html >> >> Buy before 14:30 for next day delivery (Friday 13th November) >> >> Any questions, drop me an email or call 0843 289 KING. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mac King >> > > Heather Tamplin > > www.heathertamplin.co.uk > > "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." > Twyla Tharp > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 12 11:46:53 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:46:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=09Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: >sounds good, never heard of 'macking' before, and I find it hard to >trust a website with no address listed Yes I was mistrustful and asked on the phone. The company registered address is on bottom of their legal privacy page http://www.macking.co.uk/privacy.php but the operation runs out of a warehouse in High Wycombe. We'll see!! David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From macman at f2s.com Thu Nov 12 12:19:57 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:19:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=09Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: http://www.kingroup.co.uk/ As long as it's over ?100.00 and you pay by Credit Card, you're pretty safe! Robbie On 12 Nov 2009, at 11:46, David Van Edwards wrote: > sounds good, never heard of 'macking' before, and I find it hard to > trust a website with no address listed Yes I was mistrustful and asked on the phone. The company registered address is on bottom of their legal privacy page http://www.macking.co.uk/privacy.php but the operation runs out of a warehouse in High Wycombe. We'll see!! David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From yahooist at anyisle.com Thu Nov 12 12:23:40 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:23:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block Message-ID: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> Hi Guys, My neighbour has taken my advice and is about to ditch his ailing MS Vista laptop for a MacBook Pro, due to arrive imminently. So far he has attended two sessions at the Apple Store and they have offered him help in transferring his data. Already he is delighted with Apple!!! I will be leading him through things at home and I wondered if the group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, such as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. He is a computer user of many years but relies on me to install and troubleshoot his previous MS systems. I can now claim over 4 years of iMac usage and have my conventions but your wisdom is most welcome. Regards... Neil -- Sent from my ? iPhone From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 12:33:46 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:33:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old system. Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't move things from their standard places. Do save things into the Documents folder. Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, add ones he wants to use a lot. Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back-up. regards, Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: > I wondered if the > group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, such > as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. From andrew at acetuk.com Thu Nov 12 12:40:47 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:40:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I Could Be Leaving You All Message-ID: <5066C319-745F-43D7-B97A-4B52447FAFB6@me.com> Simon. I hope any changes you make to your IT set up and interaction goes well and fits to what you want. I've been a Linux user in the past and found it good and stable. It didn't suit me long term but you may find it just what you need. And cheap! If you do decide to leave the Mac world I may be interested in buying your Powerbook off you if you want to move it o. Let me know. Andrew andrew @ acetuk . com Sent from my iPhone From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 12 12:49:53 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:49:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <33EC0B24-2001-436A-BC5F-CD2E45BBC77A@mac.com> One of the things to do which seems to help many people on a new platform is to play with it. If you leave it until you have a specific job to do, finding out how to master the different ways of doing things becomes an irritation and an obstacle. It is so important to familiarise oneself with the whole ethos of the interface before doing something important. Some people are very targeted, and object to the concept of 'play' as being somehow a trivial waste of time - in those cases I call it 'Constructive Familiarization' or 'Directed Exploration'. Don't forget the whole suite of Apple tutorials on their website: http://www.apple.com/uk/findouthow/mac/ Setting up the various relationships between the standard apps is a very personal thing - each of us have unique pathways in our brains and we all need to develop our own way of working. Of course, for a general starting point, there is probably no better place to get a feel for how Macs work than the Apple Store Workshops. Even our own familiarization courses for beginners come out second best to them, although we can (and do) stray from the subject somewhat to explore all sorts of aspects which perhaps Apple Workshops can't accommodate. On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Guys, > > My neighbour has taken my advice and is about to ditch his ailing MS > Vista laptop for a MacBook Pro, due to arrive imminently. > > So far he has attended two sessions at the Apple Store and they have > offered him help in transferring his data. Already he is delighted > with Apple!!! > > I will be leading him through things at home and I wondered if the > group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, such > as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. He is a computer user of > many years but relies on me to install and troubleshoot his previous > MS systems. I can now claim over 4 years of iMac usage and have my > conventions but your wisdom is most welcome. > > Regards... > Neil > > -- > Sent from my ? iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From andrew at acetuk.com Thu Nov 12 12:49:43 2009 From: andrew at acetuk.com (Andrew Forde) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:49:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block Message-ID: <2128DE9B-3195-472D-9453-E8F1AE4F2EF6@me.com> Yes, I have to agree. The built in apps are going to feel familar enough to what he was using that browsing, mail etc should be quick to switch to. But under that OSXand Leopard are different in terms of file management, application installation etc. that he needs to forget a lot of the 'Windows way' and learn the 'Finder' way. I saw this same reaction this week. I was using my Macbook in front of an experienced Windows XP user and he was lost with what I was doing very quickly. Until I opened Safari and he was at home again. Sent from my iPhone From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Nov 12 13:07:04 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:07:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> Message-ID: Robin Williams' Little Mac Books/Mac is not a typewriter I found excellent when I first bought a Mac and had no personal help. I do not know if they have been updated. The Missing Manuals are quite good but I would not recommend The Mac Bible. He should get Apple Care in about 10 months time (eBay), Anthony On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Guys, > > My neighbour has taken my advice and is about to ditch his ailing MS > Vista laptop for a MacBook Pro, due to arrive imminently. > > So far he has attended two sessions at the Apple Store and they have > offered him help in transferring his data. Already he is delighted > with Apple!!! > > I will be leading him through things at home and I wondered if the > group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, such > as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. He is a computer user of > many years but relies on me to install and troubleshoot his previous > MS systems. I can now claim over 4 years of iMac usage and have my > conventions but your wisdom is most welcome. > > Regards... > Neil > > -- > Sent from my ? iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 13:19:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:19:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> Message-ID: "The Mac is not a Typewriter" has been updated. The first edition was excellent for those wanting to produce good looking printed material. I haven't seen the second edition, but I expect it's just updated a bit. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0201782634/ On 12 Nov 2009, at 13:07, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Robin Williams' Little Mac Books/Mac is not a typewriter I found > excellent when I first bought a Mac and had no personal help. I do not > know if they have been updated. From simonroyal at live.co.uk Thu Nov 12 13:56:17 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:56:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG FaceBook Group Message-ID: Hi. Does anyone want to take over the NMUG FaceBook group? If so let me know. Simon _________________________________________________________________ Save time by using Hotmail to access your other email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 12 13:58:09 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:58:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG FaceBook Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C295F13-59DA-4550-8093-084CC9DA4A79@mac.com> I'll volunteer. Can you email me details? Thanks, Richard On 12 Nov 2009, at 13:56, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > Does anyone want to take over the NMUG FaceBook group? > > If so let me know. > > Simon > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Nov 12 14:02:26 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:02:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] nov meeting Message-ID: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> I have told the Quebec to expect us on the Tues 24th Nov Kindly adjust your diaries. Regards Alan From macman at f2s.com Thu Nov 12 14:45:01 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:45:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] nov meeting In-Reply-To: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> References: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> Message-ID: Hope that's not a euphemism Alan ... On 12 Nov 2009, at 14:02, Alan Barber wrote: I have told the Quebec to expect us on the Tues 24th Nov Kindly adjust your diaries. Regards Alan _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From turrethouse at talktalk.net Thu Nov 12 14:52:33 2009 From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:52:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] nov meeting In-Reply-To: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> References: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> Message-ID: Sorry Alan - couldn't do Tuesday or Thursday that week ! Hugh >I have told the Quebec to expect us on the Tues 24th Nov >Kindly adjust your diaries. > >Regards > >Alan > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From turrethouse at talktalk.net Thu Nov 12 14:54:07 2009 From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:54:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] nov meeting In-Reply-To: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> References: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> Message-ID: Sorry Alan - couldn't do Tuesday or Thursday that week. Hugh >I have told the Quebec to expect us on the Tues 24th Nov >Kindly adjust your diaries. > >Regards > >Alan > > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 14:59:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:59:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] nov meeting In-Reply-To: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> References: <6889FF22-D7C2-4FDE-8E0A-215A81E866A2@mac.com> Message-ID: <70D2068B-596B-40AD-A35D-C9FBA4900660@durrant.co.uk> Thanks Alan, I've updated the website with the new date, and also added info about the new announcements list, and the beginners classes info has moved to its own page. Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 14:02, Alan Barber wrote: > I have told the Quebec to expect us on the Tues 24th Nov > Kindly adjust your diaries. From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 15:00:33 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:00:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG website Message-ID: I've just done a little work on the website http://www.nmug.org.uk/ If anyone spots any problems, please let me know. regards, Paul From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 15:02:57 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:02:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Announcements List Message-ID: <6E8A475F-3EF6-4E38-A840-7912C88DC26D@durrant.co.uk> There is now an announcements list. You should all (well, except those who opted out) have received a welcome email. If you received two, it's because you're subscribed to this list with two email addresses. You can manage your announcement list subscription(s) at http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug-announce so just delete the one you don't want, if you got two. Or if you can't, email me, paul at durrant.co.uk, and let me know which one should be deleted. regards, Paul From macman at f2s.com Thu Nov 12 15:13:29 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:13:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <093DF2DF-5F90-409F-A30C-64A93B0E2DD3@f2s.com> Looks fine to me Paul ... Robbie On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:00, Paul Durrant wrote: I've just done a little work on the website http://www.nmug.org.uk/ If anyone spots any problems, please let me know. regards, Paul _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 15:25:59 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:25:59 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac Message-ID: 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back-up.' It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much more available -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 15:29:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:29:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: USB2 will do if you can't get firewire. Firewire (esp. Firewire 800) is a lot faster than USB 2 for external hard disks. On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:25, Stefan Youngs wrote: > 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- > up.' > > It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much more > available From bazyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 12 16:02:06 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:02:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> Is it also true that you cannot use USB to boot from? (Obviously having your system folder on there) Or has this now changed? Just curious Barry On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:29, Paul Durrant wrote: > USB2 will do if you can't get firewire. Firewire (esp. Firewire 800) > is a lot faster than USB 2 for external hard disks. > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:25, Stefan Youngs wrote: > >> 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- >> up.' >> >> It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much more >> available > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live. From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 16:08:55 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> References: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> Message-ID: <617AF54B-6C33-48EB-B6D0-DBBC1A6C7842@durrant.co.uk> All Intel Macs will boot from USB regards, Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:02, Barry Youngs wrote: > Is it also true that you cannot use USB to boot from? (Obviously > having your system folder on there) Or has this now changed? > Just curious > Barry > On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:29, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> USB2 will do if you can't get firewire. Firewire (esp. Firewire 800) >> is a lot faster than USB 2 for external hard disks. >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:25, Stefan Youngs wrote: >> >>> 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine >>> back- >>> up.' >>> >>> It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much >>> more >>> available From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 16:09:11 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> References: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> Message-ID: You can boot from USB, I believe this has been the case since Apple switched to Intel On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Barry Youngs wrote: > Is it also true that you cannot use USB to boot from? (Obviously > having your system folder on there) Or has this now changed? > Just curious > Barry > On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:29, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> USB2 will do if you can't get firewire. Firewire (esp. Firewire 800) >> is a lot faster than USB 2 for external hard disks. >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:25, Stefan Youngs wrote: >> >>> 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- >>> up.' >>> >>> It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much more >>> available >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the > bad girls live. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Nov 12 16:11:33 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:11:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> Message-ID: Firewire may be preferable if there are not many USB ports. I suffer from that and wished I had bought a Firewire drive for Time Machine. Hubs can have problems. Anthony On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:09, Scott Matthews wrote: > You can boot from USB, I believe this has been the case since Apple > switched to Intel > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Barry Youngs > wrote: >> Is it also true that you cannot use USB to boot from? (Obviously >> having your system folder on there) Or has this now changed? >> Just curious >> Barry >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:29, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> USB2 will do if you can't get firewire. Firewire (esp. Firewire 800) >>> is a lot faster than USB 2 for external hard disks. >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:25, Stefan Youngs wrote: >>> >>>> 'Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine >>>> back- >>>> up.' >>>> >>>> It doesn't have to be Firewire, USB2 is absolutely fine and much >>>> more >>>> available >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the >> bad girls live. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Thu Nov 12 16:13:15 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:13:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul Website looks fine. Spelling mistake Occasional not with 2 c's as written on page Min On 12 Nov 2009, at 15:0012 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > I've just done a little work on the website > > http://www.nmug.org.uk/ > > If anyone spots any problems, please let me know. > > regards, > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From batchsteve at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 16:16:29 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:16:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> Message-ID: <21027BBD-78A0-4D96-B0EC-E692789FD9D4@gmail.com> What do you mean? Steve. On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:11, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Hubs can have problems. From lizbarnard at btinternet.com Thu Nov 12 16:18:51 2009 From: lizbarnard at btinternet.com (Liz) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:18:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you Message-ID: Simon, are you ill? Having a nervous breakdown? Getting a divorce? How can you possibly be leaving a group to which you have contributed so much and abandoning the best computer system in the world? There?ll be no one here to drive me mad anymore! Liz From lizbarnard at btinternet.com Thu Nov 12 16:24:28 2009 From: lizbarnard at btinternet.com (Liz) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Sat. am training session Message-ID: Richard/Paul, are there any places left on the Saturday morning training session? If so, can you put my name down? Is it still 10 ?12? Liz From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Nov 12 16:25:04 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Moving from PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <21027BBD-78A0-4D96-B0EC-E692789FD9D4@gmail.com> References: <80F9B373-52C1-43D3-93E0-2782FBE68A18@mac.com> <21027BBD-78A0-4D96-B0EC-E692789FD9D4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46493D2C-FCC7-4854-A99C-2B0CE984A9CF@themagic.me.uk> A peripheral connected to a hub's USB port does not work, always. Reason sometimes is that own power needed as will not accept hub;s. Cannot remember specific cases, except HP printer but anyway, when I try to scan with it does not and shows error message "USB not connected" which is rubbish as I can immediately "Copy" (scan and print). Many tests and replacing driver helped at first but then problem started again. Anthony On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:16, Steve Batch wrote: > > What do you mean? > > Steve. > > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:11, Anthony Brahams wrote: > >> Hubs can have problems. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From bazyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 12 16:37:26 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com> I wholeheartedly agree. You have made a lot of sense to me over the years and your contributions to this group have been invaluable, mostly very informative, a lot of the time with great a sense of humour. The banter between members of this group will no longer be the same without your interjections and knowledge. Hopefully you will soon realise the error of your ways and return to the fold but until then Simon I wish you the best of luck with your new ventures. Don't forget that there will always be an old Mac that somebody has that you will need to work on, improve, try to get it to work at Warp speed etc. All the best Barry On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:18, Liz wrote: > Simon, are you ill? Having a nervous breakdown? Getting a > divorce? How > can you possibly be leaving a group to which you have contributed so > much > and abandoning the best computer system in the world? > > There?ll be no one here to drive me mad anymore! > > Liz > _______________________________________________ > Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 12 16:41:55 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:41:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you In-Reply-To: <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com> References: <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com> Message-ID: <5EBB95B0-A2EE-4C56-ACCF-85CFD3C3EB37@mac.com> Don't you all believe it - Simon will never leave nmug. He will never EVER sell his mac. Kelvin From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 12 17:09:08 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:09:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Sat. am training session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Liz. Yes there are still places for Saturday, so look forward to seeing you there. Yes, it is 10 - 12. On 12 Nov 2009, at 16:24, Liz wrote: > Richard/Paul, are there any places left on the Saturday morning training > session? If so, can you put my name down? Is it still 10 ?12? > > Liz > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From yahooist at anyisle.com Thu Nov 12 17:27:20 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:27:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> He is getting a 1TB Time Capsule as he tends to use his laptop all round the house and a wired external drive just won't get plugged in so Time Machine won't do its job properly. Also, we can use the Time Capsule to attach a USB printer and he'll be able to print wirelessly. If his drive fails he can now pop along to the Apple store and have them remedy things. Regards... Neil -- Sent from my ? iPhone On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Paul Durrant wrote: > My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old > system. > > Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't > move things from their standard places. Do save things into the > Documents folder. > > Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, add > ones he wants to use a lot. > > Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- > up. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: > >> I wondered if the >> group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, such >> as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 18:18:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:18:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <0BF16CF3-DDE0-4E68-ABA0-582D5A6ADA94@durrant.co.uk> That'll work. It'll take a while to back up first time, but after that it should be good. Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 17:27, Neil S. wrote: > He is getting a 1TB Time Capsule as he tends to use his laptop all > round the house and a wired external drive just won't get plugged in > so Time Machine won't do its job properly. Also, we can use the Time > Capsule to attach a USB printer and he'll be able to print wirelessly. > > If his drive fails he can now pop along to the Apple store and have > them remedy things. > > Regards... > Neil > > -- > Sent from my ? iPhone > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old >> system. >> >> Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't >> move things from their standard places. Do save things into the >> Documents folder. >> >> Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, add >> ones he wants to use a lot. >> >> Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- >> up. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: >> >>> I wondered if the >>> group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, >>> such >>> as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From simonroyal at live.co.uk Thu Nov 12 18:40:56 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:40:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you In-Reply-To: <5EBB95B0-A2EE-4C56-ACCF-85CFD3C3EB37@mac.com> References: , <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com>, <5EBB95B0-A2EE-4C56-ACCF-85CFD3C3EB37@mac.com> Message-ID: Kelvin Site has been taken down, blog has been taken down and all my online accounts with people like Digg, Technorati have been cancelled. I am still using my Mac at present, but I have a laptop coming which I will load with Linux and then my PowerBook will be up for sale. Believe it. Simon > From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:41:55 +0000 > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [NMUG] I could be leaving you > > Don't you all believe it - Simon will never leave nmug. > He will never EVER sell his mac. > Kelvin > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 12 18:41:48 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:41:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you In-Reply-To: References: <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com> <5EBB95B0-A2EE-4C56-ACCF-85CFD3C3EB37@mac.com> Message-ID: <3934A86E-4304-4B0E-A469-85CB83B310FC@mac.com> Nope! On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:40, Simon Royal wrote: > > Kelvin > > > Believe it. > > Simon From yahooist at anyisle.com Thu Nov 12 18:43:55 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:43:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <0BF16CF3-DDE0-4E68-ABA0-582D5A6ADA94@durrant.co.uk> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> <0BF16CF3-DDE0-4E68-ABA0-582D5A6ADA94@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <2BA7E050-D601-41F1-949C-251ECFCDAB6E@anyisle.com> Hi Paul, Perhaps we go via wired Ethernet the first time, overnight. Would that be Gigabit Ethernet on the Macbook & the Time Capsule? Regards... Neil On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > That'll work. It'll take a while to back up first time, but after that > it should be good. > > Paul > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 17:27, Neil S. wrote: > >> He is getting a 1TB Time Capsule as he tends to use his laptop all >> round the house and a wired external drive just won't get plugged in >> so Time Machine won't do its job properly. Also, we can use the Time >> Capsule to attach a USB printer and he'll be able to print >> wirelessly. >> >> If his drive fails he can now pop along to the Apple store and have >> them remedy things. >> >> Regards... >> Neil >> >> -- >> Sent from my ? iPhone >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old >>> system. >>> >>> Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't >>> move things from their standard places. Do save things into the >>> Documents folder. >>> >>> Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, add >>> ones he wants to use a lot. >>> >>> Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine back- >>> up. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: >>> >>>> I wondered if the >>>> group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, >>>> such >>>> as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 From batchsteve at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 18:47:02 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:47:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] I could be leaving you In-Reply-To: <3934A86E-4304-4B0E-A469-85CB83B310FC@mac.com> References: <183176ED-0BE3-47FD-B4AD-FB3CBFDB5668@mac.com> <5EBB95B0-A2EE-4C56-ACCF-85CFD3C3EB37@mac.com> <3934A86E-4304-4B0E-A469-85CB83B310FC@mac.com> Message-ID: Give him 2 weeks with Linux before he comes running back to the warm fuzzy Mac... On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:41, Kelvin Youngs wrote: > Nope! > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:40, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Believe it. From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 19:37:51 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:37:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <2BA7E050-D601-41F1-949C-251ECFCDAB6E@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> <0BF16CF3-DDE0-4E68-ABA0-582D5A6ADA94@durrant.co.uk> <2BA7E050-D601-41F1-949C-251ECFCDAB6E@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <0E0E77B6-ACE2-41FE-BCE6-70E1FA37E7F3@durrant.co.uk> Yes, All recent Apple kit has had Gigabit Ethernet I remember the astonishment when the original iMac came out with 100Mbps Ethernet! Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:43, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Perhaps we go via wired Ethernet the first time, overnight. Would > that be Gigabit Ethernet on the Macbook & the Time Capsule? > > Regards... > Neil > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> That'll work. It'll take a while to back up first time, but after >> that >> it should be good. >> >> Paul >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 17:27, Neil S. wrote: >> >>> He is getting a 1TB Time Capsule as he tends to use his laptop all >>> round the house and a wired external drive just won't get plugged in >>> so Time Machine won't do its job properly. Also, we can use the Time >>> Capsule to attach a USB printer and he'll be able to print >>> wirelessly. >>> >>> If his drive fails he can now pop along to the Apple store and have >>> them remedy things. >>> >>> Regards... >>> Neil >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my ? iPhone >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Paul Durrant wrote: >>> >>>> My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old >>>> system. >>>> >>>> Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't >>>> move things from their standard places. Do save things into the >>>> Documents folder. >>>> >>>> Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, >>>> add >>>> ones he wants to use a lot. >>>> >>>> Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine >>>> back- >>>> up. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wondered if the >>>>> group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, >>>>> such >>>>> as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > -- > Neil Stevens > Sent from my ? iMac G5 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 12 19:55:39 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:55:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New MacBook Pro on the Block In-Reply-To: <2BA7E050-D601-41F1-949C-251ECFCDAB6E@anyisle.com> References: <43B79239-1528-4F78-A794-77AC9F0FD102@anyisle.com> <8C6E8C5B-EACE-45A2-A460-0E036B760269@durrant.co.uk> <8B035187-07AB-4AC8-B5D0-BC446355FB06@anyisle.com> <0BF16CF3-DDE0-4E68-ABA0-582D5A6ADA94@durrant.co.uk> <2BA7E050-D601-41F1-949C-251ECFCDAB6E@anyisle.com> Message-ID: <910CFA54-0BCC-45EC-8507-A328ADF50096@ntlworld.com> Hi, after reading all the hype about backing up to a time capsule I was worried too, but I found that with a new Mac the backup was very quick because you still don't have much on it, so start up your new run the backup then copy your photos to your mac and perhaps your documents and run the backup again and that seems to speed things up, but if you start up your new Mac and copy your Photo's, Doc's, music and all that before your fist backup that seem to be when it can take hours Kerin On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:43, Neil S. wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Perhaps we go via wired Ethernet the first time, overnight. Would > that be Gigabit Ethernet on the Macbook & the Time Capsule? > > Regards... > Neil > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 18:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> That'll work. It'll take a while to back up first time, but after >> that >> it should be good. >> >> Paul >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 17:27, Neil S. wrote: >> >>> He is getting a 1TB Time Capsule as he tends to use his laptop all >>> round the house and a wired external drive just won't get plugged in >>> so Time Machine won't do its job properly. Also, we can use the Time >>> Capsule to attach a USB printer and he'll be able to print >>> wirelessly. >>> >>> If his drive fails he can now pop along to the Apple store and have >>> them remedy things. >>> >>> Regards... >>> Neil >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my ? iPhone >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Paul Durrant wrote: >>> >>>> My main advice would be not to try to force it to work like his old >>>> system. >>>> >>>> Do use the standard Apps (Safari, Mail, Addresss Book, etc.). Don't >>>> move things from their standard places. Do save things into the >>>> Documents folder. >>>> >>>> Do customise the dock item - remove ones he's not interested in, >>>> add >>>> ones he wants to use a lot. >>>> >>>> Do make sure he has an external firewire disk for Time Machine >>>> back- >>>> up. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 12:23, Neil S. wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wondered if the >>>>> group has any tips on how he should approach his new aquisition, >>>>> such >>>>> as setup and use of the standard Apple apps. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > -- > Neil Stevens > Sent from my ? iMac G5 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 12 20:03:39 2009 From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:03:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? Free, live TV with no hidden extras. Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, More 4, 4 Music & Five. Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between this and terrestrial broadcasts. Needs 3G or wifi to work. Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use your computer to go to the same address and there are even more channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but registering is free. We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely unheralded. I'm wow'd by it. On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: > So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as apparently > apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such > a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! > Michele > > Sent from Michele's iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jwebber19 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 20:22:21 2009 From: jwebber19 at googlemail.com (james webber) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:22:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4b639c160911121222l504a4e79y66fe736c3be148ed@mail.gmail.com> for gods sake please stop sending these emails, please!!! On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at nmug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at nmug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at nmug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. cleaning cloths (Jill Searle) > 2. Re: cleaning cloths (Richard Nevill) > 3. Re: November 25th meeting (Paul Durrant) > 4. Re: November 25th meeting (Paul Chapman) > 5. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Richard Nevill) > 6. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Min Kennison) > 7. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Paul Durrant) > 8. Re: DVD Drawer (Simon Royal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:52:28 +0000 > From: Jill Searle > Subject: [NMUG] cleaning cloths > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an > 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? > Jill > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:10:24 +0000 > From: Richard Nevill > Subject: Re: [NMUG] cleaning cloths > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <5909B12B-1CA8-45A5-88C5-E14B41CA3760 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Jill Searle wrote: > > > Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an > > 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? > > > > > 'e-cloth' is the brand name of a particular manufacturer of microfibre > cloths. Yes, the little black cloth is a microfibre cloth, but I would > think it's small size would make it difficult to use for a proper > screen clean. > > I suspect Apple have included it as a value-added sop to the high > proportion of us Apple afficionados who compulsively flick the dust > off our machines. I find the larger size of the commercial microfibre > cloths makes it easier to clean my (17") screen. > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:11:07 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] November 25th meeting > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say > the Tuesday or the Thursday. > > I know this means that some regular attendees might not be able to > attend because of other commitments, but equally, some who are unable > to attend onWednesdays might be able to come along. > > I've been very happy with the Quebec as a meeting place - not too > noisy, comfortable, and drinks are available. Free helps too! > > What do others think? > > regards, > > Paul > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:01, Alan Barber wrote: > > > I'm afraid we cannot have our usual meeting room at the Quebec on the > > 25th November. > > They have a large party booked. > > Do we find another venue or another night at the Quebec? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:21:28 +0000 > From: Paul Chapman > Subject: Re: [NMUG] November 25th meeting > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > > > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say > > the Tuesday or the Thursday. > > What do others think? > > That seems OK with me. > > Alan, do we know if the Tuesday or Thursday either side of our usual > night are available? > > Paul C > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:25:32 +0000 > From: Richard Nevill > Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <5F765606-D0E1-4D90-A66D-FA1472265C8C at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 07:56, joe butler wrote: > > > None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac > > until 6 weeks ago, > > > But that doesn't explain why they called me back three times to pick > up a machine which still didn't work properly! > > Thoroughness and attention to detail are servicing virtues which > should be inculcated during the training phase. > > There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new > ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to > the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the > symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in > translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears > to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only > when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the > overall length of stay in the workshop. > > > > Give them time! > > I did - it was FOUR WEEKS ago I took my MBP into the Norwich Apple > Store! > > > > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Richard Nevill wrote: > > > > I had a grumble about my MBP problems on Friday - see: > > > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/022999.html > > > > > > > > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:23:13 +0000 > From: Min Kennison > Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <76989152-1943-41ED-B308-CF5AC08F8138 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I agree with you entirely Paul. This was the sped that my MBP was > repaired at the Cambridge Apple store. Diagnosis and repair in under 4 > hours. > > Min > On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:048 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > > > Thanks for the followup. I can only think that they have in-house > > technicians at the ApplesStore, as they can't have had time to send it > > away anywhere. > > > > regards > > > > Paul > > > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:39:02 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <71361F68-FD66-47E4-BD98-253966AF7EFF at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > This does sound bad. > > I guess it's the case that if your problem is obvious (dead hard > drive, say) or a known problem (bad video chip), it can be fixed > quickly. > > But if it's a tricky problem, which hasn't happened enough to be in > their database of problems, the inexperience of the new technicians at > the store will become more evident. > > From the sound of things their system could do with a little tweaking > too. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad time. > > Fifth time the charm? Do let us know how it goes. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:25, Richard Nevill wrote: > > There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new > > ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to > > the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the > > symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in > > translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears > > to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only > > when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the > > overall length of stay in the workshop. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:43:55 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] DVD Drawer > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <0152F806-D618-44C0-B0B1-A85847936347 at simonroyal.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Raymond > > No. She has a cheap USB mouse. It never used to do it. > > She had some problems on it a few weeks ago. So I tried to boot from > the Tiger DVD and the drive just wouldn't pick it up. Luckily, I have > the Tiger installer restored to my iPod, so I booted off that. > > I then ran Disk Utility, the disc had some errors, which were > repaired. I then selected the hard drive ass the start up disc and > rebooted. > > Now everytime the machine boots, it pops open the DVD drawer. > > Simon > > On 8 Nov 2009, at 14:23, Raymond Paine wrote: > > > Hi Simon, > > > > If your friend has a wireless mouse this could be the problem. > > The same thing happens with my G5 Mac Pro tower. I have a > > wireless mouse installed. > > > > > > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > Simon Royal > --- > Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal > . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 > ************************************ > From jwebber19 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 20:22:50 2009 From: jwebber19 at googlemail.com (james webber) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:22:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: <4b639c160911121222l504a4e79y66fe736c3be148ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b639c160911121222l504a4e79y66fe736c3be148ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b639c160911121222m55e3e8dds8a0c9943bad38388@mail.gmail.com> getting way past a joke now , On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM, james webber wrote: > for gods sake please stop sending these emails, please!!! > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > >> Send NMUG mailing list submissions to >> nmug at nmug.org.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> nmug-request at nmug.org.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> nmug-owner at nmug.org.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. cleaning cloths (Jill Searle) >> 2. Re: cleaning cloths (Richard Nevill) >> 3. Re: November 25th meeting (Paul Durrant) >> 4. Re: November 25th meeting (Paul Chapman) >> 5. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Richard Nevill) >> 6. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Min Kennison) >> 7. Re: RIP MacBookPro (Paul Durrant) >> 8. Re: DVD Drawer (Simon Royal) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:52:28 +0000 >> From: Jill Searle >> Subject: [NMUG] cleaning cloths >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an >> 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? >> Jill >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:10:24 +0000 >> From: Richard Nevill >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] cleaning cloths >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <5909B12B-1CA8-45A5-88C5-E14B41CA3760 at mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 08:52, Jill Searle wrote: >> >> > Is the small 20cm black cloth packaged with my new macbook an >> > 'ecloth'? I assume it is intended for cleaning my screen? >> > >> >> >> 'e-cloth' is the brand name of a particular manufacturer of microfibre >> cloths. Yes, the little black cloth is a microfibre cloth, but I would >> think it's small size would make it difficult to use for a proper >> screen clean. >> >> I suspect Apple have included it as a value-added sop to the high >> proportion of us Apple afficionados who compulsively flick the dust >> off our machines. I find the larger size of the commercial microfibre >> cloths makes it easier to clean my (17") screen. >> >> Richard Nevill >> ricnev at mac.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:11:07 +0000 >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] November 25th meeting >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <4AD3B919-3D5D-4CA8-8F71-A9C7632AAFDB at durrant.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say >> the Tuesday or the Thursday. >> >> I know this means that some regular attendees might not be able to >> attend because of other commitments, but equally, some who are unable >> to attend onWednesdays might be able to come along. >> >> I've been very happy with the Quebec as a meeting place - not too >> noisy, comfortable, and drinks are available. Free helps too! >> >> What do others think? >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:01, Alan Barber wrote: >> >> > I'm afraid we cannot have our usual meeting room at the Quebec on the >> > 25th November. >> > They have a large party booked. >> > Do we find another venue or another night at the Quebec? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:21:28 +0000 >> From: Paul Chapman >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] November 25th meeting >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2009, at 09:11, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >> > I'd suggest that for this meeting only we move to another night - say >> > the Tuesday or the Thursday. >> > What do others think? >> >> That seems OK with me. >> >> Alan, do we know if the Tuesday or Thursday either side of our usual >> night are available? >> >> Paul C >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:25:32 +0000 >> From: Richard Nevill >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <5F765606-D0E1-4D90-A66D-FA1472265C8C at mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 07:56, joe butler wrote: >> >> > None of the mac store genius's had ever seen the inside of a Mac >> > until 6 weeks ago, >> >> >> But that doesn't explain why they called me back three times to pick >> up a machine which still didn't work properly! >> >> Thoroughness and attention to detail are servicing virtues which >> should be inculcated during the training phase. >> >> There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new >> ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to >> the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the >> symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in >> translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears >> to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only >> when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the >> overall length of stay in the workshop. >> >> >> > Give them time! >> >> I did - it was FOUR WEEKS ago I took my MBP into the Norwich Apple >> Store! >> >> >> > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Richard Nevill wrote: >> > >> > I had a grumble about my MBP problems on Friday - see: >> > >> > http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/022999.html >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard Nevill >> ricnev at mac.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:23:13 +0000 >> From: Min Kennison >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <76989152-1943-41ED-B308-CF5AC08F8138 at mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> I agree with you entirely Paul. This was the sped that my MBP was >> repaired at the Cambridge Apple store. Diagnosis and repair in under 4 >> hours. >> >> Min >> On 8 Nov 2009, at 18:048 Nov 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >> > Thanks for the followup. I can only think that they have in-house >> > technicians at the ApplesStore, as they can't have had time to send it >> > away anywhere. >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Paul >> > >> > On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:30, Scott Matthews wrote: >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> > Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:39:02 +0000 >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] RIP MacBookPro >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <71361F68-FD66-47E4-BD98-253966AF7EFF at durrant.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> This does sound bad. >> >> I guess it's the case that if your problem is obvious (dead hard >> drive, say) or a known problem (bad video chip), it can be fixed >> quickly. >> >> But if it's a tricky problem, which hasn't happened enough to be in >> their database of problems, the inexperience of the new technicians at >> the store will become more evident. >> >> From the sound of things their system could do with a little tweaking >> too. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad time. >> >> Fifth time the charm? Do let us know how it goes. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 9 Nov 2009, at 09:25, Richard Nevill wrote: >> > There is also an issue with Apples ticketing system - they raise a new >> > ticket - effectively a new job - every time a machine is returned to >> > the workshop. The previous history is not on that ticket, so the >> > symptoms do not get re-described and some details get lost in >> > translation. Without a continuous history, each separate job appears >> > to have been turned round within reasonable target times. It is only >> > when you look at all the jobs together that you can appreciate the >> > overall length of stay in the workshop. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:43:55 +0000 >> From: Simon Royal >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] DVD Drawer >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <0152F806-D618-44C0-B0B1-A85847936347 at simonroyal.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Raymond >> >> No. She has a cheap USB mouse. It never used to do it. >> >> She had some problems on it a few weeks ago. So I tried to boot from >> the Tiger DVD and the drive just wouldn't pick it up. Luckily, I have >> the Tiger installer restored to my iPod, so I booted off that. >> >> I then ran Disk Utility, the disc had some errors, which were >> repaired. I then selected the hard drive ass the start up disc and >> rebooted. >> >> Now everytime the machine boots, it pops open the DVD drawer. >> >> Simon >> >> On 8 Nov 2009, at 14:23, Raymond Paine wrote: >> >> > Hi Simon, >> > >> > If your friend has a wireless mouse this could be the problem. >> > The same thing happens with my G5 Mac Pro tower. I have a >> > wireless mouse installed. >> > >> > >> > Ray >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> > Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Site: http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal >> . Skype: Simon-Royal. (PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive, Mac OSX 10.5) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> End of NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 >> ************************************ >> > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 20:26:16 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:26:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: <4b639c160911121222m55e3e8dds8a0c9943bad38388@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b639c160911121222l504a4e79y66fe736c3be148ed@mail.gmail.com> <4b639c160911121222m55e3e8dds8a0c9943bad38388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42BD59A9-57EF-458E-8898-F20DD0ABB4B5@durrant.co.uk> OK, I've manually unsubscribed him. Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:22, james webber wrote: > getting way past a joke now , > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM, james webber >wrote: > >> for gods sake please stop sending these emails, please!!! >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: >> >>> Send NMUG mailing list submissions to >>> nmug at nmug.org.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 20:28:11 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:28:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: <42BD59A9-57EF-458E-8898-F20DD0ABB4B5@durrant.co.uk> References: <4b639c160911121222l504a4e79y66fe736c3be148ed@mail.gmail.com> <4b639c160911121222m55e3e8dds8a0c9943bad38388@mail.gmail.com> <42BD59A9-57EF-458E-8898-F20DD0ABB4B5@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: A polite chap though - I got a "thank you" note. Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:26, Paul Durrant wrote: > OK, I've manually unsubscribed him. > > Paul > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:22, james webber wrote: > >> getting way past a joke now , >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM, james webber >> wrote: >> >>> for gods sake please stop sending these emails, please!!! >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> Send NMUG mailing list submissions to >>>> nmug at nmug.org.uk From bazyoungs at mac.com Thu Nov 12 20:28:46 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:28:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. Baz Sent from my iPod On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley wrote: > Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? > Free, live TV with no hidden extras. > Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be > presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, > More 4, 4 Music & Five. > Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. > Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really > is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between > this and terrestrial broadcasts. > Needs 3G or wifi to work. > Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use > your computer to go to the same address and there are even more > channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but > registering is free. > We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without > wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely > unheralded. > I'm wow'd by it. > > > > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: > >> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >> apparently >> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such >> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >> Michele >> >> Sent from Michele's iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 12 20:30:28 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:30:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: <26A2BDF7-D649-4A4D-B32F-425596707320@durrant.co.uk> Yes, I was very impressed! Paul On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Barry Youngs wrote: > Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, > BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley > wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 21:10:30 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:10:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: Yes,thanks for Keep in touch. Richard On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Barry Youngs wrote: > Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, > BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. > Baz > > Sent from my iPod > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley > wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >> registering is free. >> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >> unheralded. >> I'm wow'd by it. >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >> >>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>> apparently >>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that >>> such >>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>> Michele >>> >>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 12 21:13:24 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:13:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: <735FCF3C-4F6D-4C92-A8ED-DAB84C42774F@gmail.com> I'm trying to say thanks for the multiple-channel tv player. Works well on my iTouch Keep in touch. Richard On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Barry Youngs wrote: > Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, > BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. > Baz > > Sent from my iPod > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley > wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >> registering is free. >> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >> unheralded. >> I'm wow'd by it. >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >> >>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>> apparently >>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that >>> such >>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>> Michele >>> >>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From phil.charnley at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 12 21:36:36 2009 From: phil.charnley at ntlworld.com (Phil Charnley) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:36:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: <831F7E48-1600-426C-883A-62B425EE5CC2@ntlworld.com> I've been using it for 4-5 days now. Some channels drop in or out of reception but my guess is that it will get more reliable as time goes by. On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:28, Barry Youngs wrote: > Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, > BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. > Baz > > Sent from my iPod > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley > wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >> registering is free. >> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >> unheralded. >> I'm wow'd by it. >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >> >>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>> apparently >>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such >>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>> Michele >>> >>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From michelehurst at mac.com Fri Nov 13 01:47:40 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:47:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re itv on iPhone Message-ID: <4721DD9E-906C-4B57-B600-87FC5FE4E0CF@mac.com> Wow phil, thanks for that. No idea that existed. By the way Paul, nmug emails make my day, entertaining as well as useful. Michele Sent from Michele's iPhone From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Fri Nov 13 09:39:19 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:39:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: It works well on my iPod Touch too, but how many of us will exceed our download limits? Ken Arnoldi On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28 PM, Barry Youngs wrote: > Just tried it on my Ipod Touch and it is brilliant. Thanks for that, > BBC 1 won't play but so much else is there. > Baz > > Sent from my iPod > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley > wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >> registering is free. >> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >> unheralded. >> I'm wow'd by it. >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >> >>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>> apparently >>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that >>> such >>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>> Michele >>> >>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Nov 13 10:05:16 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:05:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: That's the great unknown, Ken - streaming video is fine, as long as I remember it's running! At least with iPlayer Grabber and iPlayerDownloader, you know exactly how much bandwidth you've used up. Apart from 1 x Movie @ 450MB, most of my downloads are a maximum of 330MB, and of course I can keep and watch them for as long as I want (no moralistic responses please). The drawback, of course, is that it's BBC only, and restricted to the programmes they choose to offer. Fortunately, my interest in TV is narrow enough to match the iPlayer offer pretty well, and no other broadcaster matches the radio choice - where else can you get The Navy Lark and The Men From The Ministry? Robbie On 13 Nov 2009, at 09:39, Ken Arnoldi wrote: It works well on my iPod Touch too, but how many of us will exceed our download limits? Ken Arnoldi From band1 at mac.com Fri Nov 13 10:09:26 2009 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:09:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers Message-ID: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Two things:- Having just upgraded to 10.6.2 I haven't noticed anyone else saying they have. I assume, even though there are the usual clutch of problems on the Apple forum, that there are no problems within the group? Secondly, given the number of photographers in the group would it be possible to have a Saturday meeting on layers in Photoshop Elements and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any offers? David From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 13 10:20:20 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:20:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: <67C76866-44B5-4756-9A3F-4BFA8E5CC8E1@mac.com> I'm using 10.6.2 - nothing to report; no news is good news. Photoshop Elements Layers on a Saturday - definitely a possibility. Any volunteers to run the session? On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: > Two things:- > > Having just upgraded to 10.6.2 I haven't noticed anyone else saying > they have. I assume, even though there are the usual clutch of > problems on the Apple forum, that there are no problems within the > group? > > Secondly, given the number of photographers in the group would it be > possible to have a Saturday meeting on layers in Photoshop Elements > and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas > being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any > offers? > > David > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From minkennison at mac.com Fri Nov 13 12:18:44 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:18:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: <0200855B-B87B-4345-AB58-6C6F79250E32@mac.com> I'm running 10.6.2. No problems so far Min On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:0913 Nov 2009, David King wrote: > Two things:- > > Having just upgraded to 10.6.2 I haven't noticed anyone else saying they have. I assume, even though there are the usual clutch of problems on the Apple forum, that there are no problems within the group? > > Secondly, given the number of photographers in the group would it be possible to have a Saturday meeting on layers in Photoshop Elements and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any offers? > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From lizbarnard at btinternet.com Fri Nov 13 13:27:39 2009 From: lizbarnard at btinternet.com (Liz) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:27:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Photoshop layers Training Message-ID: Yes please! Never mastered layers ? any help gratefully received. Liz From alanbarber at mac.com Fri Nov 13 13:54:56 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:54:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> Message-ID: <13ED552B-AF88-484B-80EE-9D5E821C4954@mac.com> Cant load it on my ipod touch says I need to install flash player Help please. Regards Alan On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley wrote: > Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? > Free, live TV with no hidden extras. > Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be > presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, > More 4, 4 Music & Five. > Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. > Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really > is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between > this and terrestrial broadcasts. > Needs 3G or wifi to work. > Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use > your computer to go to the same address and there are even more > channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but > registering is free. > We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without > wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely > unheralded. > I'm wow'd by it. > > > > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: > >> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >> apparently >> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that such >> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >> Michele >> >> Sent from Michele's iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allanmacam at me.com Fri Nov 13 14:01:35 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:01:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: <78A6E105-0F83-4A5F-A95B-6E50D6634E01@me.com> On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: > layers in Photoshop Elements and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any offers? CreativeTechs does a number of free webinars throughout the week. One of them is a six month PS webinar covering many aspects of the program. (The others include Lightroom, DReamweaver, Photography) It just so happens that next week's is all about layers with Jason Hoppe (http://thurly.net//84p). More info on the webinar is at http://thurly.net//84q. The webinars are free. They make their money through downloads of the session. each one is $15 I think. Another option is to subscribe to the Retouch Live Podcast. Watching Jason retouch pictures sent in from viewers is a great way of seeing PS in action and learning at the same time. AJ From band1 at mac.com Fri Nov 13 14:31:05 2009 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:31:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <78A6E105-0F83-4A5F-A95B-6E50D6634E01@me.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> <78A6E105-0F83-4A5F-A95B-6E50D6634E01@me.com> Message-ID: <3A6FCB5F-95EE-4E57-B295-C735B80C0088@mac.com> Thanks for that will investigate but there is no substitute, in my opinion, for hands on teaching by someone in person who knows what they are doing. I pick things up much more quickly being shown in that way as questions can be asked throughout. David On 13 Nov 2009, at 14:01, Allan wrote: > > On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: >> layers in Photoshop Elements and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any offers? > > > CreativeTechs does a number of free webinars throughout the week. One of them is a six month PS webinar covering many aspects of the program. (The others include Lightroom, DReamweaver, Photography) It just so happens that next week's is all about layers with Jason Hoppe (http://thurly.net//84p). More info on the webinar is at http://thurly.net//84q. The webinars are free. They make their money through downloads of the session. each one is $15 I think. > > > Another option is to subscribe to the Retouch Live Podcast. Watching Jason retouch pictures sent in from viewers is a great way of seeing PS in action and learning at the same time. > > AJ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allanmacam at me.com Fri Nov 13 14:33:56 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:33:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <3A6FCB5F-95EE-4E57-B295-C735B80C0088@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> <78A6E105-0F83-4A5F-A95B-6E50D6634E01@me.com> <3A6FCB5F-95EE-4E57-B295-C735B80C0088@mac.com> Message-ID: <8119DF06-42C0-45D2-9466-7D60E181E4A2@me.com> One of the benefits of watching the webinar is that it is interactive and you can ask questions at any time. But I agree, having a real person in front of you makes for a more immediate and personal experience. On 13 Nov 2009, at 14:31, David King wrote: > Thanks for that will investigate but there is no substitute, in my opinion, for hands on teaching by someone in person who knows what they are doing. I pick things up much more quickly being shown in that way as questions can be asked throughout. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 13 15:31:58 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:31:58 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] TV on iPhone Message-ID: A couple of points. If you don't have a licence, you are not allowed to watch live TV. It's inevitable that the highly intrusive UK TV licencing authority will track the IP addresses of those watching and collar those without a licence. The service doesn't work outside the UK.. I am in Washington DC right now and I'm blocked. -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Fri Nov 13 15:40:07 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:40:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: <13ED552B-AF88-484B-80EE-9D5E821C4954@mac.com> References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> <13ED552B-AF88-484B-80EE-9D5E821C4954@mac.com> Message-ID: Alan, I just clicked on the link given by a member in an ealier message - in blue- and it downloaded to my iPod Touch immediately. Ken On 13 Nov 2009, at 01:54 PM, Alan Barber wrote: > Cant load it on my ipod touch says I need to install flash player > Help please. > Regards > > Alan > > > On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley wrote: > >> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >> registering is free. >> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >> unheralded. >> I'm wow'd by it. >> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >> >>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>> apparently >>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that >>> such >>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>> Michele >>> >>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alanbarber at mac.com Fri Nov 13 15:47:28 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:47:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Itv on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <7CF6E303-9370-4E7A-9598-325813DD5558@mac.com> <13ED552B-AF88-484B-80EE-9D5E821C4954@mac.com> Message-ID: <3699D817-4601-42F6-9297-B62CC5A8B925@mac.com> Thanks didnt set it up correctly. Working now. Regards Alan On 13 Nov 2009, at 15:40, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > Alan, > I just clicked on the link given by a member in an ealier message - in > blue- and it downloaded to my iPod Touch immediately. > > Ken > > > > On 13 Nov 2009, at 01:54 PM, Alan Barber wrote: > >> Cant load it on my ipod touch says I need to install flash player >> Help please. >> Regards >> >> Alan >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2009, at 20:03, Phil Charnley wrote: >> >>> Have you tried www.iphone.tvcatchup.com ? >>> Free, live TV with no hidden extras. >>> Open safari on your iphone, type in the web address and you'll be >>> presented with a choice of BBC 1-3, ITV 1&2, Channel 4, Film 4, E4, >>> More 4, 4 Music & Five. >>> Click on which you want and away you go. Your iphone is now a TV. >>> Don't be put off by the "catchup" part of the web address. It really >>> is "live" although there is a delay of about 20-30 seconds between >>> this and terrestrial broadcasts. >>> Needs 3G or wifi to work. >>> Then, if you're impressed with that, and I think you will be, use >>> your computer to go to the same address and there are even more >>> channels to choose from. You need to register for that, but >>> registering is free. >>> We've waited for years for free live TV on our computers, without >>> wires, aerials or fancy video cards, and its arrived, completely >>> unheralded. >>> I'm wow'd by it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2009, at 08:28, Michele Hurst wrote: >>> >>>> So can watch all other channels but not ITV on my iPhone as >>>> apparently >>>> apple block the download of flash player. Surely ridiculous that >>>> such >>>> a high spec gismo cannot allow viewing one of the "big three"! >>>> Michele >>>> >>>> Sent from Michele's iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Fri Nov 13 16:34:47 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:34:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <67C76866-44B5-4756-9A3F-4BFA8E5CC8E1@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> <67C76866-44B5-4756-9A3F-4BFA8E5CC8E1@mac.com> Message-ID: <64DCB736-722F-4CCE-BE3B-5E0623311E70@virgin.net> Trouble with upgrading any OS is you've got to have tried 'everything' in the previous system, (and remember it!) to know what differences there are in the new OS. Ken Arnoldi On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:20 AM, Richard Nevill wrote: > I'm using 10.6.2 - nothing to report; no news is good news. > > Photoshop Elements Layers on a Saturday - definitely a possibility. > Any volunteers to run the session? > > > On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: > >> Two things:- >> >> Having just upgraded to 10.6.2 I haven't noticed anyone else saying >> they have. I assume, even though there are the usual clutch of >> problems on the Apple forum, that there are no problems within the >> group? >> >> Secondly, given the number of photographers in the group would it be >> possible to have a Saturday meeting on layers in Photoshop Elements >> and how to use them. Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas >> being shown how to use something is much more constructive. Any >> offers? >> >> David >> > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rbygrave at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 13 16:53:20 2009 From: rbygrave at ntlworld.com (Ruth Bygrave) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:53:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] How do I move my iTunes again? Message-ID: Have had my iTunes on an external for a long time. Have now got a 500Gb internal, mainly because Time Machine chokes on my piecemeal system, although extra speed, space and the S.M.A.R.T. status Apple still refuses to supply for externals can't hurt... How do I, least painfully: a) move everything without broken links signs appearing all over the place? Do I just ask iTunes to put the library in, where was it, home/ iTunes Music/iTunes music library and it will move it, or will it move everything piece by piece when it can't resolve the alias any more, which seems a bit annoying... b) make sure it does now get backed up in Time Machine -- have not figured out how to get the damn thing to disgorge info about what it's backed up, or not, although it always threw an error about the external. c) get back the nice 'Music' icon with the treble clef in the sidebar, which probably got removed when it no longer referred to my actual music library so seemed a bit pointless :-) Regards, Ruth (...I have a machine that goes (slightly more) voom!...) From batchsteve at googlemail.com Fri Nov 13 17:19:46 2009 From: batchsteve at googlemail.com (Steve Batch) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:19:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, If you don't like reading you can sit and watch tutorials on this site: The first 7 tutorials under "Layer Basics" are free then if you wish to go further you pay for a subscription. Steve. On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: > Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. From ricnev at mac.com Fri Nov 13 17:33:59 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:33:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: For some, it is the immediate dynamic interaction of a collaborative gathering which stimulates their learning capabilities. It doesn't matter to them how polished a video, audio or flash presentation is, they prefer the frisson they get from being in a sociable, supportive, real time group of like-minded learners. On 13 Nov 2009, at 17:19, Steve Batch wrote: > > Hi, > If you don't like reading you can sit and watch tutorials on this site: > > The first 7 tutorials under "Layer Basics" are free then if you wish to go further you pay for a subscription. > > Steve. > > > On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: > >> Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. > > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From band1 at mac.com Fri Nov 13 17:38:19 2009 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:38:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 10.6.2 and layers In-Reply-To: References: <25D311C5-F7A4-428F-ADF0-557DAEBDAE14@mac.com> Message-ID: Couldn't have put it better. To me watching a tutorial on line is fine as an add on but is no substitute for personal tuition. David On 13 Nov 2009, at 17:33, Richard Nevill wrote: > For some, it is the immediate dynamic interaction of a collaborative gathering which stimulates their learning capabilities. It doesn't matter to them how polished a video, audio or flash presentation is, they prefer the frisson they get from being in a sociable, supportive, real time group of like-minded learners. > > > On 13 Nov 2009, at 17:19, Steve Batch wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> If you don't like reading you can sit and watch tutorials on this site: >> >> The first 7 tutorials under "Layer Basics" are free then if you wish to go further you pay for a subscription. >> >> Steve. >> >> >> On 13 Nov 2009, at 10:09, David King wrote: >> >>> Reading instructions send me to sleep whereas being shown how to use something is much more constructive. >> >> > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 14 09:48:06 2009 From: jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:48:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac Message-ID: I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 minutes the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a question mark. Is this a fatal? or is there hope yet for data recovery and using it again? I've tried the usual suspects, starting up in safe mode, trying to boot from installation disc, unplugging and replugging etc but the tick always follows the same pattern; 4 lots of 10 ticks with a short pause in between. The ticks seem to be coming from the top left hand side at the rear. I can't even use Applejack because I can't get the black screen required to type in the necessary commands. I'd like to start up the imac in target mode (the target mode symbol I can get) and run disk utility from my macbook as I think this is the next step to try. Can I also drag files across without being able to use Migration Assistant on the iMac? If anyone in the Earlham Road area has a firewire cable I could borrow I'd be very grateful - it would have to connect the iMac 400 port to the MacBook, or can this be done with USB? Any solutions, advice or local repair suggestions gratefully received. Jeremy Webb From macman at f2s.com Sat Nov 14 10:00:51 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:00:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <745865DE-EDB7-4C5A-9DE6-CA825C7E5C6F@f2s.com> Sounds like a dead hard drive, I'm afraid - it can't find an OS. I'm happy to lend you a FW400 cable: I'm close to Anglia Square if you have no more local offers ... Unfortunately, target mode won't help you if the drive won't spin up and read! Robbie Robbie Murray 01603 620749 01603 516175 07882 007667 macman at f2s.com On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:48, Jeremy Webb wrote: I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 minutes the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a question mark. Is this a fatal? or is there hope yet for data recovery and using it again? I've tried the usual suspects, starting up in safe mode, trying to boot from installation disc, unplugging and replugging etc but the tick always follows the same pattern; 4 lots of 10 ticks with a short pause in between. The ticks seem to be coming from the top left hand side at the rear. I can't even use Applejack because I can't get the black screen required to type in the necessary commands. I'd like to start up the imac in target mode (the target mode symbol I can get) and run disk utility from my macbook as I think this is the next step to try. Can I also drag files across without being able to use Migration Assistant on the iMac? If anyone in the Earlham Road area has a firewire cable I could borrow I'd be very grateful - it would have to connect the iMac 400 port to the MacBook, or can this be done with USB? Any solutions, advice or local repair suggestions gratefully received. Jeremy Webb _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Nov 14 10:03:03 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:03:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E0017E6-BF38-454C-A382-6AB7A979AC8E@durrant.co.uk> Hi Jeremy, I should be able to help. Give me a ring. 01603 763332 I'm on Earlham Road. regards, Paul On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:48, Jeremy Webb wrote: > I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and > then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the > system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 minutes > the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a > question mark. > > Is this a fatal? or is there hope yet for data recovery and using it > again? > > I've tried the usual suspects, starting up in safe mode, trying to > boot from installation disc, unplugging and replugging etc but the > tick always follows the same pattern; 4 lots of 10 ticks with a short > pause in between. The ticks seem to be coming from the top left hand > side at the rear. I can't even use Applejack because I can't get the > black screen required to type in the necessary commands. > > I'd like to start up the imac in target mode (the target mode symbol I > can get) and run disk utility from my macbook as I think this is the > next step to try. Can I also drag files across without being able to > use Migration Assistant on the iMac? > > If anyone in the Earlham Road area has a firewire cable I could borrow > I'd be very grateful - it would have to connect the iMac 400 port to > the MacBook, or can this be done with USB? > > Any solutions, advice or local repair suggestions gratefully received. > > Jeremy Webb > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 14 10:07:08 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <757793.59696.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Im on Edinburgh road if you still need a cable, I can also give you a few pointers if your still stuck, 07575225124 Joe Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Sat, 14/11/09, Jeremy Webb wrote: From: Jeremy Webb Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 9:48 I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and? then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the? system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 minutes? the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a? question mark. Is this a fatal? or is there hope yet for data recovery and using it? again? I've tried the usual suspects, starting up in safe mode, trying to? boot from installation disc, unplugging and replugging etc but the? tick always follows the same pattern; 4 lots of 10 ticks with a short? pause in between. The ticks seem to be coming from the top left hand? side at the rear. I can't even use Applejack because I can't get the? black screen required to type in the necessary commands. I'd like to start up the imac in target mode (the target mode symbol I? can get) and run disk utility from my macbook as I think this is the? next step to try. Can I also drag files across without being able to? use Migration Assistant on the iMac? If anyone in the Earlham Road area has a firewire cable I could borrow? I'd be very grateful - it would have to connect the iMac 400 port to? the MacBook, or can this be done with USB? Any solutions, advice or local repair suggestions gratefully received. Jeremy Webb _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alanbarber at mac.com Sat Nov 14 16:35:10 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:35:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] beginners meeting Message-ID: <1CC1AB85-9108-4AEF-AEA5-E4C3FD239953@mac.com> Could I on behalf of todays participants say a big thank you to Richard for organizing todays meeting. For someone who says he knows nothing about web design he certainly researched enough to give all of us food for thought. Thanks Richard Regards Alan From simonroyal at live.co.uk Sat Nov 14 18:56:30 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:56:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Problems Message-ID: Hi. My TiBook has been playing up today. First, it won't wake from sleep when the lid is shut and then opened. Firefox is also quitting randomly and the session restore never works. I haven't changed anything, installed any updates, any ideas? Simon _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From minkennison at mac.com Sat Nov 14 20:19:12 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:19:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] beginners meeting In-Reply-To: <1CC1AB85-9108-4AEF-AEA5-E4C3FD239953@mac.com> References: <1CC1AB85-9108-4AEF-AEA5-E4C3FD239953@mac.com> Message-ID: Seconded in it's entirety. Thanks Richard Min On 14 Nov 2009, at 16:3514 Nov 2009, Alan Barber wrote: > Could I on behalf of todays participants say > a big thank you to Richard for organizing todays meeting. > For someone who says he knows nothing about web design > he certainly researched enough to give all of us food for thought. > > Thanks Richard > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Nov 14 23:03:49 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:03:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: <9E0017E6-BF38-454C-A382-6AB7A979AC8E@durrant.co.uk> References: <9E0017E6-BF38-454C-A382-6AB7A979AC8E@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Jeremy seems to be up and running again. It was his hard disk, but luckily it revived long enough to get all the data off it onto a new disk. Not as smooth an operation as it should have been, as I forgot that for PPC machines the new disk must be formatted with the Apple Partition Map. And another chance for me to remind you all that if you have data you don't want to lose, MAKE SURE YOU BACK IT UP! regards, Paul On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:03, Paul Durrant wrote: > I should be able to help. Give me a ring. > > On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:48, Jeremy Webb wrote: > >> I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and >> then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the >> system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 >> minutes >> the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a >> question mark. From simonroyal at live.co.uk Sat Nov 14 23:21:07 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:21:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: References: , <9E0017E6-BF38-454C-A382-6AB7A979AC8E@durrant.co.uk>, Message-ID: Paul I second that. As you know I lost a hard drive in my iMac and I didn't backup. There is nothing worse than the feeling when it suddenly dawn on you that you have lost everything. I do minimal back ups now, but then I have minimal files. I only have about 7GB of stuff I would want to back up, 2GB are important enough to be backed up online. Simon > From: paul at durrant.co.uk > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:03:49 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac > > Jeremy seems to be up and running again. It was his hard disk, but > luckily it revived long enough to get all the data off it onto a new > disk. > > Not as smooth an operation as it should have been, as I forgot that > for PPC machines the new disk must be formatted with the Apple > Partition Map. > > And another chance for me to remind you all that if you have data you > don't want to lose, MAKE SURE YOU BACK IT UP! > > regards, > > Paul > > On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:03, Paul Durrant wrote: > > I should be able to help. Give me a ring. > > > > On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:48, Jeremy Webb wrote: > > > >> I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and > >> then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the > >> system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 > >> minutes > >> the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a > >> question mark. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Nov 15 01:07:14 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:07:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AFF5442.3090500@stackyard.org> Hi Simon, It's like you've never been away! I could be wrong but I kinda think that the two problems are unrelated. The Firefox problem may be caused by a dodgy profile. I presume that you have tried disabling suspicious addons and plugins (Tools -> Add-ons) and either finding updates for the ones that are installed or disabling them one by one. Do you have version 3.5.5? How frequently does Firefox quit? Regarding the sleep issue, I presume you've tried the standard stuff like resetting PRAM and repairing permissions. Is there anything plugged into a USB port? If so, I assume you've already tried unplugging. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > My TiBook has been playing up today. > > First, it > when the lid is shut and then opened. Firefox is also quitting randomly and the session restore never works. > > I haven't changed anything, installed any updates, any ideas? > > Simon > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 15 03:09:00 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:00 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Another Apple store.... Message-ID: I am in New York right now, where Apple has just opened another amazing store. Check it out http://www.apple.com/retail/upperwestside/ -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Sun Nov 15 09:27:54 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:27:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help please! seriously ill iMac In-Reply-To: References: <9E0017E6-BF38-454C-A382-6AB7A979AC8E@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: I'm indebted to Paul for the extraordinary lengths he went to in extracting my precious data and getting me up and running again. Without Pauls help I'd have been truly without the proverbial paddle. The sight of the frozen screen along with the tick tick ticking of a failing hard drive will haunt me forever - a bit like Captain Hook and the crocodile. Many many thanks Paul. And to Robbie and Joe who also came riding over the hill with early offers of help. What a great bunch you all are :-) Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 14 Nov 2009, at 23:03, Paul Durrant wrote: > Jeremy seems to be up and running again. It was his hard disk, but > luckily it revived long enough to get all the data off it onto a new > disk. > > Not as smooth an operation as it should have been, as I forgot that > for PPC machines the new disk must be formatted with the Apple > Partition Map. > > And another chance for me to remind you all that if you have data you > don't want to lose, MAKE SURE YOU BACK IT UP! > > regards, > > Paul > > On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:03, Paul Durrant wrote: >> I should be able to help. Give me a ring. >> >> On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:48, Jeremy Webb wrote: >> >>> I have a G5 PPC iMac which on startup gives the usual mac Bong and >>> then proceeds to tick, literally like a clock and can't find the >>> system - just grey screen, no apple or spinning cog. After 3/4 >>> minutes >>> the fans roar and a small folder flashes on the desktop with a >>> question mark. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From swimwire at googlemail.com Sun Nov 15 11:13:26 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:13:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb and FTP Message-ID: Hi NMUGgers, I am using iWeb 09 to create a personal website. I have a Linux hosting account all set up and ready to go with FTP etc. However it baffles me that when I choose to publish via FTP in iWeb it uploads to http://mywebsite.com/mysite - where 'mysite' is the iWeb Name of my site. I honestly can't find a way to publish to the root folder (public_html, although my FTP account uses this as a root folder anyway). I did plenty of research and the only way I could figure out was to use FTP to manually upload the site, via a seperate FTP client - in my case FileZilla. So, I have two questions: 1) Is it possible to make iWeb change the upload structure somehow? 2) If not, is it possible to use, say, Automator, to record a macro-like-thing, so whenever I click 'Publish to Local Folder' in iWeb, FileZilla then automatically uploads it manually? Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the help, Jack Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 15 11:43:35 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:43:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb and FTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C951649-6ACD-48FF-B4D2-FB8A5BF0B78A@durrant.co.uk> Hi Jack, I'm not at all surprised that the upload options are limited in iWeb. I haven't used it enough to know if there's a wat around the default location. You could almost certainly write an AppleScript and attach it to a folder on your hard disk so that anything written to the folder (by publish to local folder) got uploaded to your ftp site using FileZilla (or possibly the Mac's built-in ftp client). It might take a little time though. As a quicker work-around, could you create a hard link on the web server from index.html at the root to index.html in the folder that iWeb uploads? regards, Paul On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:13, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hi NMUGgers, > > I am using iWeb 09 to create a personal website. I have a Linux > hosting account all set up and ready to go with FTP etc. > > However it baffles me that when I choose to publish via FTP in iWeb > it uploads to http://mywebsite.com/mysite - where 'mysite' is the > iWeb Name of my site. I honestly can't find a way to publish to the > root folder (public_html, although my FTP account uses this as a > root folder anyway). > > I did plenty of research and the only way I could figure out was to > use FTP to manually upload the site, via a seperate FTP client - in > my case FileZilla. > > So, I have two questions: > > 1) Is it possible to make iWeb change the upload structure somehow? > 2) If not, is it possible to use, say, Automator, to record a macro- > like-thing, so whenever I click 'Publish to Local Folder' in iWeb, > FileZilla then automatically uploads it manually? > From simonroyal at live.co.uk Sun Nov 15 11:50:36 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:50:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Problems In-Reply-To: <4AFF5442.3090500@stackyard.org> References: , <4AFF5442.3090500@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Ken I think I have solved the sleep problem. I had a USB flash drive in. Once removed it has woken again. Simon > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:07:14 +0000 > From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [NMUG] TiBook Problems > > Hi Simon, > > It's like you've never been away! I could be wrong but I kinda think > that the two problems are unrelated. The Firefox problem may be caused > by a dodgy profile. I presume that you have tried disabling suspicious > addons and plugins (Tools -> Add-ons) and either finding updates for the > ones that are installed or disabling them one by one. Do you have > version 3.5.5? How frequently does Firefox quit? > > Regarding the sleep issue, I presume you've tried the standard stuff > like resetting PRAM and repairing permissions. Is there anything > plugged into a USB port? If so, I assume you've already tried unplugging. > > Ken > > Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > > > My TiBook has been playing up today. > > > > First, it > > when the lid is shut and then opened. Firefox is also quitting randomly and the session restore never works. > > > > I haven't changed anything, installed any updates, any ideas? > > > > Simon > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sun Nov 15 11:52:48 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:52:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb and FTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34347125-CEDA-4852-A06F-EAF590B79A52@ntlworld.com> Have you found the Site Publishing Settings page where you set up your transfer within iWeb Kerin On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:13, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hi NMUGgers, > > I am using iWeb 09 to create a personal website. I have a Linux hosting account all set up and ready to go with FTP etc. > > However it baffles me that when I choose to publish via FTP in iWeb it uploads to http://mywebsite.com/mysite - where 'mysite' is the iWeb Name of my site. I honestly can't find a way to publish to the root folder (public_html, although my FTP account uses this as a root folder anyway). > > I did plenty of research and the only way I could figure out was to use FTP to manually upload the site, via a seperate FTP client - in my case FileZilla. > > So, I have two questions: > > 1) Is it possible to make iWeb change the upload structure somehow? > 2) If not, is it possible to use, say, Automator, to record a macro-like-thing, so whenever I click 'Publish to Local Folder' in iWeb, FileZilla then automatically uploads it manually? > > Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the help, > > Jack > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack.wh at virgin.net > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sun Nov 15 12:05:11 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:05:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb and FTP In-Reply-To: <34347125-CEDA-4852-A06F-EAF590B79A52@ntlworld.com> References: <34347125-CEDA-4852-A06F-EAF590B79A52@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On the Site Publishing Settings page you set iWeb to unload to either a ftp server, mobile me account or local folder Kerin On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:52, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Have you found the Site Publishing Settings page where you set up your transfer within iWeb > > Kerin > > > On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:13, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > >> Hi NMUGgers, >> >> I am using iWeb 09 to create a personal website. I have a Linux hosting account all set up and ready to go with FTP etc. >> >> However it baffles me that when I choose to publish via FTP in iWeb it uploads to http://mywebsite.com/mysite - where 'mysite' is the iWeb Name of my site. I honestly can't find a way to publish to the root folder (public_html, although my FTP account uses this as a root folder anyway). >> >> I did plenty of research and the only way I could figure out was to use FTP to manually upload the site, via a seperate FTP client - in my case FileZilla. >> >> So, I have two questions: >> >> 1) Is it possible to make iWeb change the upload structure somehow? >> 2) If not, is it possible to use, say, Automator, to record a macro-like-thing, so whenever I click 'Publish to Local Folder' in iWeb, FileZilla then automatically uploads it manually? >> >> Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the help, >> >> Jack >> >> Jack Webb-Heller >> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From swimwire at googlemail.com Sun Nov 15 12:51:50 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:51:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb and FTP In-Reply-To: References: <34347125-CEDA-4852-A06F-EAF590B79A52@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks, Kerin and Paul, thanks for your responses however I believe I have the problem solved now. I contacted my host's Support Team and asked them if they could put a 'domain alias' in place. I got a response about 5 minutes ago and now my domain is aliased to the correct folder - so I can browse to mysite.com and see everything from the root folder. Jack On 15 Nov 2009, at 12:05, Kerin Westgate wrote: > On the Site Publishing Settings page you set iWeb to unload to either a ftp server, mobile me account or local folder > > Kerin > > On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:52, Kerin Westgate wrote: > >> Have you found the Site Publishing Settings page where you set up your transfer within iWeb >> >> Kerin >> >> >> On 15 Nov 2009, at 11:13, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: >> >>> Hi NMUGgers, >>> >>> I am using iWeb 09 to create a personal website. I have a Linux hosting account all set up and ready to go with FTP etc. >>> >>> However it baffles me that when I choose to publish via FTP in iWeb it uploads to http://mywebsite.com/mysite - where 'mysite' is the iWeb Name of my site. I honestly can't find a way to publish to the root folder (public_html, although my FTP account uses this as a root folder anyway). >>> >>> I did plenty of research and the only way I could figure out was to use FTP to manually upload the site, via a seperate FTP client - in my case FileZilla. >>> >>> So, I have two questions: >>> >>> 1) Is it possible to make iWeb change the upload structure somehow? >>> 2) If not, is it possible to use, say, Automator, to record a macro-like-thing, so whenever I click 'Publish to Local Folder' in iWeb, FileZilla then automatically uploads it manually? >>> >>> Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the help, >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> Jack Webb-Heller >>> personal: jack.wh at virgin.net >>> general: swimwire at googlemail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack.wh at virgin.net general: swimwire at googlemail.com From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Nov 15 13:55:33 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:55:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Problems In-Reply-To: References: , <4AFF5442.3090500@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4B000855.20700@stackyard.org> Good. Ah, those devilish USB devices at work again. Regarding the Firefox issue, my son has just had a Firefox crash on his G4 PowerBook at an extremely inconvenient moment while printing out a boarding pass. I wonder if the latest version of PPC Firefox is actually broken. Has anyone else had a Firefox crash recently? This is where everyone screams that we should be running Safari. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Ken > > I think I have solved the sleep problem. I had a USB flash drive in. Once removed it has woken again. > > Simon > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:07:14 +0000 >> From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] TiBook Problems >> >> Hi Simon, >> >> It's like you've never been away! I could be wrong but I kinda think >> that the two problems are unrelated. The Firefox problem may be caused >> by a dodgy profile. I presume that you have tried disabling suspicious >> addons and plugins (Tools -> Add-ons) and either finding updates for the >> ones that are installed or disabling them one by one. Do you have >> version 3.5.5? How frequently does Firefox quit? >> >> Regarding the sleep issue, I presume you've tried the standard stuff >> like resetting PRAM and repairing permissions. Is there anything >> plugged into a USB port? If so, I assume you've already tried unplugging. >> >> Ken >> >> Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> My TiBook has been playing up today. >>> >>> First, it >>> when the lid is shut and then opened. Firefox is also quitting randomly and the session restore never works. >>> >>> I haven't changed anything, installed any updates, any ideas? >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 15 15:03:45 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:03:45 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] =?windows-1252?q?Apple_Wouldn=92t_Risk_Its_Cool_Over_a_Gim?= =?windows-1252?q?mick=2C_Would_It=3F?= Message-ID: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/business/15digi.html ?SOME of the best-loved technology on the planet? is how Apple describes its products when recruiting new employees. It?s a fair description. But the love that consumers send Apple?s way could flag if the company puts into place new advertising technology it has developed. In an application filed last year and made public last month by the United States Patent and Trademark Office, Apple is seeking a patent for technology that displays advertising on almost anything that has a screen of some kind: computers, phones, televisions, media players, game devices and other consumer electronics.... Apple has invested in research to develop what it calls an ?enforcement routine? that makes people watch ads they may not want to watch. more in the article... From simonroyal at live.co.uk Sun Nov 15 15:51:03 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:51:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Problems In-Reply-To: <4B000855.20700@stackyard.org> References: , , <4AFF5442.3090500@stackyard.org>, , <4B000855.20700@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Ken Thinking about it. Firefox updated itself to a newer version about a week ago and I have noticed a few odd quirks, although since removing the USB stick the machine has been ok waking from sleep and also Firefox hasn't crashed. Fingers crossed. I used Safari for a couple of months until recently, I love the speed but there are too many incompatibility niggles for my liking. I know most Mac users say you have to use Safari for some things and Firefox for another, but I can't be bothered with switching browsers. Firefox might not have the speed of Safari - although version 3 is a lot faster than previous versions - but it is the best all rounder and with Firefox for Windows gaining more and more ground over IE, it means more people are paying attention to Firefox compatibility, which is a bonus for Mac and Linux users running Firefox. Simon > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:55:33 +0000 > From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [NMUG] TiBook Problems > > Good. Ah, those devilish USB devices at work again. Regarding the > Firefox issue, my son has just had a Firefox crash on his G4 PowerBook > at an extremely inconvenient moment while printing out a boarding pass. > I wonder if the latest version of PPC Firefox is actually broken. Has > anyone else had a Firefox crash recently? This is where everyone > screams that we should be running Safari. > > Ken > > Simon Royal wrote: > > Ken > > > > I think I have solved the sleep problem. I had a USB flash drive in. Once removed it has woken again. > > > > Simon > > > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:07:14 +0000 > >> From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org > >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] TiBook Problems > >> > >> Hi Simon, > >> > >> It's like you've never been away! I could be wrong but I kinda think > >> that the two problems are unrelated. The Firefox problem may be caused > >> by a dodgy profile. I presume that you have tried disabling suspicious > >> addons and plugins (Tools -> Add-ons) and either finding updates for the > >> ones that are installed or disabling them one by one. Do you have > >> version 3.5.5? How frequently does Firefox quit? > >> > >> Regarding the sleep issue, I presume you've tried the standard stuff > >> like resetting PRAM and repairing permissions. Is there anything > >> plugged into a USB port? If so, I assume you've already tried unplugging. > >> > >> Ken > >> > >> Simon Royal wrote: > >> > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> My TiBook has been playing up today. > >>> > >>> First, it > >>> when the lid is shut and then opened. Firefox is also quitting randomly and the session restore never works. > >>> > >>> I haven't changed anything, installed any updates, any ideas? > >>> > >>> Simon > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Nov 15 18:25:27 2009 From: stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Stuart Fidler) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:25:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems Message-ID: <958792.44354.qm@web24105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I have just set my laptop up to print through my BT wireless router with my Canon Pixma 5200R. I can use the printer utilities to wirelessly print a head check but when I try to print a document from Word or from Yahoo e-mail I get an error 300. If I connect the USB cable there is no problem with the printing.?Anybody any ideas please? Stuart? From tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 15 18:38:04 2009 From: tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com (Tony Hall) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:38:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: <08C5EDC3-44DB-414F-B0ED-EBF13CE729A2@mac.com> References: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> <9A6F9A15-FE12-4AD0-BA15-5C566FCF1F25@ntlworld.com> <08C5EDC3-44DB-414F-B0ED-EBF13CE729A2@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you for your help everybody who responded. I would like to request that people are patience with new users like myself, whilst it may appear silly looking back, I now am happy to say I fully understand what the dock is thanks to some helpful, kind people on this list. Thank you very much! Many of my Windows friends are very jealous of my new MacBook. Every day I am discovering new things on it that never cease to impress me, such as the way I can use iMovie to put together my home video clips! I have yet to fully explore Safari but from what I have tried of it so far it seems very good. Applications like Photo Booth really amused my family for ages, and best of all I look forward to losing some weight with the included calorie counter iCal! Many thanks to everyone so far who has helped me out. I'm sure I'll be posting back here soon! Tony 2009/11/11 Richard Nevill > I'm not so sure - I think Tony is genuinely puzzled. > > I would hope we could help him sensitively. > > If you do need more help, Tony, please keep the questions coming. > > Don't feel inhibited by any sharp replies - sometimes simple questions are > the most difficult to answer. > > We should always remember that there are many people who come here who are > as ignorant of the Mac platform as we all were once. Expertise is ignorance > forgotten. > > > On 11 Nov 2009, at 19:34, Phil Charnley wrote: > > > Funny posts Tony, which appear to have gone over some people's heads. > > Glasses disapeared, son in navy trying to help with the dock. Your sense > of humour struck a chord. > > Welcome to NMUG. Keep them coming. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From penguinsplj at me.com Sun Nov 15 18:53:12 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:53:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Melting windows? In-Reply-To: References: <941C2096-29E7-4482-A8D5-2B9613E629F0@gmail.com> <9A6F9A15-FE12-4AD0-BA15-5C566FCF1F25@ntlworld.com> <08C5EDC3-44DB-414F-B0ED-EBF13CE729A2@mac.com> Message-ID: <06E6C377-3509-4F20-A38C-033CB0BC8985@me.com> On Nov 15, 2009, at 18:38, Tony Hall wrote: > and > best of all I look forward to losing some weight with the included > calorie > counter iCal! A sense of humour is a wonderful thing. Glad that you got sorted out. Paul C From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Nov 15 20:51:06 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:51:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems In-Reply-To: <958792.44354.qm@web24105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Stuart Maybe the printer needs to have its driver reinstalled for this location. Go to Printer setup and see if it doesn't see the wirelessly connected device and then find a driver - which you can rename so as to identify clearly - something like BT_5200R. I had to set up a new printer device driver when connecting to it via Airport. (And Airport doesn't let me perform maintenance routines wirelessly on my pixma IP4000) hope this helps regards Brian Stuart Fidler said recently: > I have just set my laptop up to print through my BT wireless router with my > Canon Pixma 5200R. I can use the printer utilities to wirelessly print a head > check but when I try to print a document from Word or from Yahoo e-mail I get > an error 300. If I connect the USB cable there is no problem with the > printing.?Anybody any ideas please? > Stuart? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alanbarber at mac.com Sun Nov 15 22:44:55 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:44:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Meeting Message-ID: <0978C08E-A035-4094-86B2-96D3BB4E386B@mac.com> just had a call from Felix. Seems the Quebec got it wrong the meeting will have to be on the the Thurs 26th not the 24th. Please re-adjust your diaries. regards Alan sent from my iPod touch From sparky at paston.co.uk Sun Nov 15 22:45:09 2009 From: sparky at paston.co.uk (Richard Sparks) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:45:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Open Recent List Message-ID: <451161E2-5302-4289-94A9-2D1A12744E6E@paston.co.uk> Hi I have had a minor problem since upgrading to Snow leopard. The "Open Recent" list in the File menu remains empty in all the iWork applications (Numbers, Pages & Keynote). As I am using iWork 08 I was prepared to put up with this until I can afford to buy iWork 09, as everything else in these applications works as it should do. However?.. Last week I upgraded to 10.6.2 and since then the same problem has shown up in TextEdit. I have tried trashing the preference files and repairing permissions without success. Can anyone please help as to what might be causing this problem. Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB RAM Intel GMA 950 graphics with 64MB of shared memory Thank You Richard http://www.users.paston.co.uk/sparky/home.html Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail Powered my Mac OSX Snow Leopard From stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk Sun Nov 15 22:31:12 2009 From: stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Stuart Fidler) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:31:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <791048.68710.qm@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Brian, Thanks for that. I am not sure that I did it the way you meant but I resolved it in Word by going to print and adding another printer. It seemed that the properties for the original installation were for USB but after a search for printers without the USB connection it found the wireless one. I still don't understand why it worked through the Canon print utility to print the head alignment without having to do anything other than print. Regards, Stuart --- On Sun, 15/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: From: Brian Steere Subject: Re: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 20:51 Hi Stuart Maybe the printer needs to have its driver reinstalled for this location. Go to Printer setup and see if it doesn't see the wirelessly connected device and then find a driver - which you can rename so as to identify clearly - something like BT_5200R. I had to set up a new printer device driver when connecting to it via Airport. (And Airport doesn't let me perform maintenance routines wirelessly on my pixma IP4000) hope this helps regards Brian Stuart Fidler said recently: > I have just set my laptop up to print through my BT wireless router with my > Canon Pixma 5200R. I can use the printer utilities to wirelessly print a head > check but when I try to print a document from Word or from Yahoo e-mail I get > an error 300. If I connect the USB cable there is no problem with the > printing.?Anybody any ideas please? > Stuart? > > >? ? ??? > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From simonroyal at live.co.uk Mon Nov 16 01:10:08 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:10:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti Message-ID: Hi. My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it back on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I powered it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little spinning thing actually stopped spinning. Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is working now. I am writing this on it. This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility and the SMART status shows Verified. Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run AppleJack. Simon _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Mon Nov 16 08:52:11 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:52:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0112BB.60207@stackyard.org> Simon, It sounds a bit disk-like to me. SMART is pretty inaccurate. Disks usually have to be in flames before showing any SMART warnings. Make sure important stuff is backed up. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. > > The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. > > However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it back on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. > > First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I powered it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little spinning thing actually stopped spinning. > > Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is working now. I am writing this on it. > > This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility and the SMART status shows Verified. > > Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run AppleJack. > > Simon > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 16 09:34:17 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:34:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Meeting In-Reply-To: <0978C08E-A035-4094-86B2-96D3BB4E386B@mac.com> References: <0978C08E-A035-4094-86B2-96D3BB4E386B@mac.com> Message-ID: <8FE95C64-4D3C-45EE-AA99-B7DE005D439E@durrant.co.uk> Thanks Alan - the web site has been updated. regards, Paul On 15 Nov 2009, at 22:44, Alan Barber wrote: > > just had a call from Felix. > Seems the Quebec got it wrong the meeting will have to be on the the > Thurs 26th not the 24th. > Please re-adjust your diaries. > > regards > Alan > > sent from my iPod touch > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:05:41 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:05:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] NCC Number change Message-ID: <883777.98760.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Just to let those of you who have a computer/iphone in for repair that my number has changed. I fell asleep on a train at the weekend and someone had off with my bag which contained my laptop and phone. All the contact details of customers repairs where on my laptop or phone so I have been unable to contact any of you to let you know they are ready for pick up. My new number is 07575225124 please call or text me with your details and I will get back to you ASAP. You can Skype me on joebutlerncc I will be without a computer until Wednesday so if its urgent best not to email ? Thanks Joe ? ? ?http://www.apple-macs.eu From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:20:07 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:20:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Free Apple Bits Message-ID: <686287.46661.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi ? I have been having a bit of a clear out and have a few apple parts going begging if anyone has a use. ? 1 x Apple Studio CRT Monitor 17" (ADC) iMac G4 casing 12" Powerbook 1.5 Logic Board ( problem with DC in ) 1 x Macbook bottom case (white bit scruffy) 12" Powebook casing macbook speakers, DC in board Lots of cables etc ? If it could go as one lot that would be great but happy to split 07575225124 ? Joe ?http://www.apple-macs.eu From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:24:43 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:24:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Free Apple Bits Message-ID: <401066.78868.qm@web26701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi ? I have been having a bit of a clear out and have a few apple parts going begging if anyone has a use. ? 1 x Apple Studio CRT Monitor 17" (ADC) iMac G4 casing 12" Powerbook 1.5 Logic Board ( problem with DC in ) 1 x Macbook bottom case (white bit scruffy) 12" Powebook casing macbook speakers, DC in board Lots of cables etc ? If it could go as one lot that would be great but happy to split 07575225124 ? Joe ?http://www.apple-macs.eu From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:38:11 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:38:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: <4B0112BB.60207@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <454299.76763.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Simon I have a few programs I picked up on my travels that may help with this, When you next in Norwich? amer wrote: From: Ken Hamer Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 8:52 Simon, It sounds a bit disk-like to me.? SMART is pretty inaccurate.? Disks usually have to be in flames before showing any SMART warnings.? Make sure important stuff is backed up. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. > > The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. > > However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it back on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. > > First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I powered it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little spinning thing actually stopped spinning. > > Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is working now. I am writing this on it. > > This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility and the SMART status shows Verified. > > Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run AppleJack. > > Simon >? ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >??? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:42:16 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:42:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] NCC Number change Message-ID: <94347.44230.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> It was just down to me falling asleep on the train with my bag on my lap! Had most of my stuff backed up just not stuff from the last week as I had not been home to do it. I have a Mobile Me account which never use, Guess what I will be from now on! Speaking of Mobile Me accounts, As part of my short time with Apple I was given 5 accounts of which I only use one. so if anyone wants a years free account email me and they can have one for free as its a shame to waste them. Joe From: Richard Nevill Subject: Re: [NMUG] NCC Number change To: "joe butler" Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 11:28 Hi, Joe. Sorry to hear about your gear being stolen. Did you have any remote disabling or tracking facilities enabled? Would it be in order to relate your story to the club with advice on how we could all minimise the inconvenience such losses can cause? We could anonymise details if you prefer. Your loss could be turned round to be a positive benefit if other club members can learn how they can keep their records remotely backed up, and how to initiate security features to screw potential thieves. Regards and commiserations, Richard Nevill. On 16 Nov 2009, at 11:05, joe butler wrote: > Hi > Just to let those of you who have a computer/iphone in for repair that my number has changed. I fell asleep on a train at the weekend and someone had off with my bag which contained my laptop and phone. All the contact details of customers repairs where on my laptop or phone so I have been unable to contact any of you to let you know they are ready for pick up. > My new number is 07575225124 please call or text me with your details and I will get back to you ASAP. You can Skype me on joebutlerncc > I will be without a computer until Wednesday so if its urgent best not to email > From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Nov 16 11:46:48 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:46:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=09Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Dear All, In the event the MacBook Pro turned up safe and sound this morning in beautiful condition in its original packaging and even including a very nice rucksack type computer bag! On the basis of the evidence so far I would say MacKing are an excellent firm to do business with! Best wishes, David >sounds good, never heard of 'macking' before, and I find it hard to >trust a website with no address listed > >On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Heather Tamplin > wrote: >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: sales at macking.co.uk >>> Date: 12 November 2009 09:55:06 GMT >>> To: "Heather Tamplin" >>> Subject: Black MacBooks ?499 today only >>> >>> >>> We have an incredible offer ONLY on the 12th November while stocks >>> last! >>> >>> INCREDIBLE Black MacBooks 2GHz, 80GB, 2GB RAM just ?499.99 >>> including VAT and Delivery. >>> >>> We only have about 30 left and these are selling seriously fast, so >>> hurry! >>> >>> http://www.macking.co.uk/black-macbook-2ghz-core-80gb-superdrive- >>> p-1034.html >>> >>> Buy before 14:30 for next day delivery (Friday 13th November) >>> >>> Any questions, drop me an email or call 0843 289 KING. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mac King >>> >> >> Heather Tamplin >> >> www.heathertamplin.co.uk >> >> "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." >> Twyla Tharp >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > >-- >:wq >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Mon Nov 16 13:12:48 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:12:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] =?iso-8859-1?q?Just_in_case_anyone_is_interested_-_Fwd=3A_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_=09Black_MacBooks_=A3499_today_only?= In-Reply-To: References: <0YpCcz-1N8WOQ1diS-0001np@infongd5534.rtr.kundenserver.de> <272D7954-0C2F-4113-A7C1-D137F69EC876@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <81E37223-3FCD-49D5-9D85-767928A61902@btinternet.com> pleased to hear another happy customer Heather On 16 Nov 2009, at 11:46, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear All, > > In the event the MacBook Pro turned up safe and > sound this morning in beautiful condition in its > original packaging and even including a very nice > rucksack type computer bag! On the basis of the > evidence so far I would say MacKing are an > excellent firm to do business with! > > Best wishes, > > David > > >> sounds good, never heard of 'macking' before, and I find it hard to >> trust a website with no address listed >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Heather Tamplin >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: sales at macking.co.uk >>>> Date: 12 November 2009 09:55:06 GMT >>>> To: "Heather Tamplin" >>>> Subject: Black MacBooks ?499 today only >>>> >>>> >>>> We have an incredible offer ONLY on the 12th November while stocks >>>> last! >>>> >>>> INCREDIBLE Black MacBooks 2GHz, 80GB, 2GB RAM just ?499.99 >>>> including VAT and Delivery. >>>> >>>> We only have about 30 left and these are selling seriously >>>> fast, so >>>> hurry! >>>> >>>> http://www.macking.co.uk/black-macbook-2ghz-core-80gb-superdrive- >>>> p-1034.html >>>> >>>> Buy before 14:30 for next day delivery (Friday 13th November) >>>> >>>> Any questions, drop me an email or call 0843 289 KING. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mac King >>>> >>> >>> Heather Tamplin >>> >>> www.heathertamplin.co.uk >>> >>> "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." >>> Twyla Tharp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 16 14:00:42 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:00:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard Message-ID: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Hi, Can anyone please help with this problem? In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are not blocked. All these features were available with Leopard. Regards, Ed From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Mon Nov 16 14:09:07 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:09:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: <61333711-4D08-49B5-98FE-267B46D81DC5@virgin.net> If you cannot get a later driver, try downloading Gutenprint. My 'old' HP printer wouldn't work at all in Snow Leopard and HP could not supply a later driver. All functions now work with Gutenprint. Ken Arnoldi On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:00, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone please help with this problem? > > In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are not blocked. > > All these features were available with Leopard. > > Regards, > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 16 14:19:21 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:19:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: <61333711-4D08-49B5-98FE-267B46D81DC5@virgin.net> References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> <61333711-4D08-49B5-98FE-267B46D81DC5@virgin.net> Message-ID: Thanks Ken, It prints, but only in shades of purple!! I already has the Gutenprint driver. Ed On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:09, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > If you cannot get a later driver, try downloading Gutenprint. My 'old' HP printer wouldn't work at all in Snow Leopard and HP could not supply a later driver. All functions now work with Gutenprint. > > Ken Arnoldi > > > On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:00, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone please help with this problem? >> >> In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are not blocked. >> >> All these features were available with Leopard. >> >> Regards, >> >> Ed >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 16 14:22:48 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:22:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: You might get the printer utils working again by downloading and installing the compatible driver from the Epson website: http://tinyurl.com/y9sqysf This next page describes (in great detail, but not too clearly!) the current situation regarding Epson's support for SL on their older printers: http://tinyurl.com/yzgz8a5 On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:00, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone please help with this problem? > > In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are not blocked. > > All these features were available with Leopard. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 16 14:57:53 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:57:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: <2216AB8D-9D67-4B65-8902-1395ECE6499D@virgin.net> Hi Ed & Phyll I have the same printer and had to find the ink levels via Utility/ levels. I am on O/S 10.5.8 ( Whatever animal that is?) Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > > > In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out > of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges > today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the > other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are > not blocked. > > All these features were available with Leopard. > > Regards, > > Ed From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 16 15:16:14 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:16:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: <2216AB8D-9D67-4B65-8902-1395ECE6499D@virgin.net> References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> <2216AB8D-9D67-4B65-8902-1395ECE6499D@virgin.net> Message-ID: Thanks Martin, I have downloaded the drivers from the Epson site and can get all I want now, but I am still struggling with getting the nozzles clear. I will persist and come back again if I don't succeed! Regards, Ed and Phyll On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:57, Martin Fry wrote: > > Hi Ed & Phyll > > I have the same printer and had to find the ink levels via Utility/ > levels. I am on O/S 10.5.8 ( Whatever animal that is?) > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > >> >> >> In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out >> of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges >> today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the >> other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are >> not blocked. >> >> All these features were available with Leopard. >> >> Regards, >> >> Ed > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 16 15:18:17 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:18:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Richard, I have downloaded the drivers and can get all the functions. I am still having problems will clearing nozzles but will persist. Regards, Ed On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Richard Nevill wrote: > You might get the printer utils working again by downloading and installing the compatible driver from the Epson website: > > http://tinyurl.com/y9sqysf > > This next page describes (in great detail, but not too clearly!) the current situation regarding Epson's support for SL on their older printers: > > > http://tinyurl.com/yzgz8a5 > > > On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:00, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone please help with this problem? >> >> In brief, I have not used this printer for a while as I had run out of some replacement ink cartridges. Having installed the cartridges today, I now find I am unable to access the ink levels or any of the other features such as cleaning nozzles and testing that nozzles are not blocked. >> >> All these features were available with Leopard. > > > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 16 15:20:37 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:20:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Problems with Epson Stylus Photo 950 and Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <17FDABB2-3A2F-42F8-A587-459E5E14739C@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: http://www.lakeland.co.uk/clean-shower!REG/F/C/cleaning-protecting/product/2298 and http://www.qtips.com/ On 16 Nov 2009, at 15:18, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > Thanks Richard, > > I have downloaded the drivers and can get all the functions. I am still having problems will clearing nozzles but will persist. > Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 16 16:44:41 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:44:41 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Delete Audio track from .mov Message-ID: QuickTime Player 10 operating under 10.6 no longer seems to offer the option to upgrade to QT Pro Consequently I can't see how to delete an audio track from a .mov movie. This facility does not seem to be offered in QT Player 10 Does anyone know of a free or shareware solution? -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 16 16:49:40 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:49:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Delete Audio track from .mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: this may help http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3678 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Stefan Youngs wrote: > QuickTime Player 10 operating under 10.6 no longer seems to offer the option > to upgrade to QT Pro > > Consequently I can't see how to delete an audio track from a .mov movie. > This facility does not seem to be offered in QT Player 10 > > Does anyone know of a free or shareware solution? > > -- > Stefan Youngs > skype me at stefanyoungs > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Nov 16 18:32:56 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:32:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems In-Reply-To: <791048.68710.qm@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Stuart Yes that's the other way in - gets to the same place. I think the detection and communication with the printer for maintenance utility is perhaps using a separate protocol from that which uses the driver. One can also do these things direct from the printer if you know the procedure - and I expect there is a small set of commands that the utility can send as long as it can in fact detect it is connected. However, you are sorted. all the best Brian Stuart Fidler said recently: > Brian, > Thanks for that. I am not sure that I did it the way you meant but I resolved > it in Word by going to print and adding another printer. It seemed that the > properties for the original installation were for USB but after a search for > printers without the USB connection it found the wireless one. I still don't > understand why it worked through the Canon print utility to print the head > alignment without having to do anything other than print. > Regards, > Stuart > > --- On Sun, 15/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: > > From: Brian Steere > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Printer WiFi problems > To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" > Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 20:51 > > Hi Stuart > Maybe the printer needs to have its driver reinstalled for this location. > Go to Printer setup and see if it doesn't see the wirelessly connected > device and then find a driver - which you can rename so as to identify > clearly - something like BT_5200R. > > I had to set up a new printer device driver when connecting to it via > Airport. (And Airport doesn't let me perform maintenance routines wirelessly > on my pixma IP4000) > > hope this helps > > regards > Brian > > > Stuart Fidler said recently: > >> I have just set my laptop up to print through my BT wireless router with my >> Canon Pixma 5200R. I can use the printer utilities to wirelessly print a head >> check but when I try to print a document from Word or from Yahoo e-mail I get >> an error 300. If I connect the USB cable there is no problem with the >> printing.?Anybody any ideas please? >> Stuart? >> >> >> ? ? ??? >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Nov 16 18:39:15 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:39:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Simon Though I have absolutely no basis upon which to prove it - I have often found that the leaving of a thing or place or person changes my relationship with it - and all sorts of events seem to then occur - which either bring my care and inclusion back into play - or push me out! I'm also sure its simply a problem that has a specific cause(s) and can be fixed. I'd have tried starting with shift key as an easy first option - but Applejack may do the trick all the best Brian Simon Royal said recently: > > Hi. > > My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with > Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. > > The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash > drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn > on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. > > However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it back > on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. > > First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I powered > it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen > with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little > spinning thing actually stopped spinning. > > Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the > Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is > working now. I am writing this on it. > > This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did > take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility > and the SMART status shows Verified. > > Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run > AppleJack. > > Simon > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 21:15:07 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:15:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <788912.99416.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Brian ? That just about sums up life in a nutshell! Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: From: Brian Steere Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 18:39 Hi Simon Though I have absolutely no basis upon which to prove it - I have often found that the leaving of a thing or place or person changes my relationship with it - and all sorts of events seem to then occur - which either bring my care and inclusion back into play - or push me out! I'm also sure its simply a problem that has a specific cause(s) and can be fixed. I'd have tried starting with shift key as an easy first option - but Applejack may do the trick all the best Brian Simon Royal said recently: > > Hi. > > My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with > Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. > > The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash > drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn > on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. > > However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it back > on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. > > First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I powered > it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen > with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little > spinning thing actually stopped spinning. > > Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the > Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is > working now. I am writing this on it. > > This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did > take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility > and the SMART status shows Verified. > > Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run > AppleJack. > > Simon >? > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 16 21:41:46 2009 From: stuartfidler_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Stuart Fidler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:41:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NMUG] Mac mini with anti virus Message-ID: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Misco are selling the Mac mini with 50% off Kasperslky anti-virus http://news.misco.co.uk/t/1823391/68658/24795973/0/ I always thought that one of the selling points of the Mac is that anti-virus protection is not required. Have I got it wrong and should one now invest in anti-virus software? Stuart Sent from Stuart's iPod From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 16 21:51:44 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:51:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac mini with anti virus In-Reply-To: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: IMO, there's still no point in Anti-virus on the Mac. Perhaps at some time in the future, it will become necessary, but not now. Paul On 16 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Stuart Fidler wrote: > Misco are selling the Mac mini with 50% off Kasperslky anti-virus > http://news.misco.co.uk/t/1823391/68658/24795973/0/ > > I always thought that one of the selling points of the Mac is that > anti-virus protection is not required. Have I got it wrong and > should one now invest in anti-virus software? From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 16 21:59:30 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:59:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac mini with anti virus In-Reply-To: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The last bullet point is a valid one: 'Prevents you passing non-Mac threats on to friends and colleagues using different types of computers' On 16 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Stuart Fidler wrote: > Misco are selling the Mac mini with 50% off Kasperslky anti-virus > http://news.misco.co.uk/t/1823391/68658/24795973/0/ > > I always thought that one of the selling points of the Mac is that anti-virus protection is not required. Have I got it wrong and should one now invest in anti-virus software? > > Stuart > ricnev at mac.com From macman at f2s.com Mon Nov 16 22:46:13 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:46:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac mini with anti virus In-Reply-To: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <609177.65283.qm@web24102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think so - more a case of a marketing ploy, and fear works really well .... Robbie On 16 Nov 2009, at 21:41, Stuart Fidler wrote: Have I got it wrong and should one now invest in anti-virus software? Stuart Sent from Stuart's iPod _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Nov 17 00:47:31 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:47:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: <788912.99416.qm@web26704.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe Yes - more than I'd realized myself. How much for a tiny screw for the right edge (not top) of a G4 Powerbook? I could send it in 1st class stamps? (with of course an extra for the posting of the screw stuck to a bit of card etc) all the best Brian joe butler said recently: > Brian > ? > That just about sums up life in a nutshell! > > Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs > http://www.apple-macs.eu > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: > > > From: Brian Steere > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti > To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" > Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 18:39 > > > Hi Simon > Though I have absolutely no basis upon which to prove it - I have often > found that the leaving of a thing or place or person changes my relationship > with it - and all sorts of events seem to then occur - which either bring my > care and inclusion back into play - or push me out! > > I'm also sure its simply a problem that has a specific cause(s) and can be > fixed. > > I'd have tried starting with shift key as an easy first option - but > Applejack may do the trick > > all the best > Brian > > > Simon Royal said recently: > >> >> Hi. >> >> My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with >> Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. >> >> The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash >> drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn >> on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left. >> >> However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it >> back >> on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. >> >> First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I >> powered >> it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen >> with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little >> spinning thing actually stopped spinning. >> >> Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the >> Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is >> working now. I am writing this on it. >> >> This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did >> take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility >> and the SMART status shows Verified. >> >> Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run >> AppleJack. >> >> Simon >> ? >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 17 07:35:49 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:35:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <632674.35368.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Im sure I can cover the cost of a stamp! where shall i send it? Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Tue, 17/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: From: Brian Steere Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 0:47 Hi Joe Yes - more than I'd realized myself. How much for a tiny screw for the right edge (not top) of a G4 Powerbook? I could send it in 1st class stamps? (with of course an extra for the posting of the screw stuck to a bit of card etc) all the best Brian joe butler said recently: > Brian > ? > That just about sums up life in a nutshell! > > Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs > http://www.apple-macs.eu > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Brian Steere wrote: > > > From: Brian Steere > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Help! Sick Ti > To: "nmug at nmug.org.uk" > Date: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 18:39 > > > Hi Simon > Though I have absolutely no basis upon which to prove it - I have often > found that the leaving of a thing or place or person changes my relationship > with it - and all sorts of events seem to then occur - which either bring my > care and inclusion back into play - or push me out! > > I'm also sure its simply a problem that has a specific cause(s) and can be > fixed. > > I'd have tried starting with shift key as an easy first option - but > Applejack may do the trick > > all the best > Brian > > > Simon Royal said recently: > >> >> Hi. >> >> My TiBook is experiencing more problems. Every since I decided to go with >> Linux and shut up my Mac side, my TiBook has been acting oddly. >> >> The wake from sleep problem hasn't happened today, it seems it was a flash >> drive causing it. However, now I have booting problems. I don't tend to turn >> on my TiBook too often, even at night it is usually just closed and left.. >> >> However, I shut it down tonight and then about 30 minutes later turned it >> back >> on again, and it wouldn't boot fully. >> >> First time, it got to the grey screen with the Apple and it stopped. I >> powered >> it off by holding the power button. Second time, it got to the grey screen >> with the Apple and the little spinning thing and it stopped. The little >> spinning thing actually stopped spinning. >> >> Third time, it got to the blue screen, so I left it. It then brought up the >> Leopard desktop and booted fully. It took a lot longer than usual, but it is >> working now. I am writing this on it. >> >> This has never happened before. Even though it is up and running now, it did >> take a while to boot and that is never a good sign. I checked in Disk Utility >> and the SMART status shows Verified. >> >> Any ideas? Is it a hard drive problem? I am now about to reboot and run >> AppleJack. >> >> Simon >> ? >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > >? ? ??? > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Nov 17 09:22:52 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:22:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ZIP Message-ID: How can I zip a folder of pictures please? Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 09:37:46 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:37:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ZIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: right click on the folder and select 'compress' On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Martin Fry wrote: > How can I zip a folder of pictures please? > > Martin > > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 17 10:04:57 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:04:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ZIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If your pictures are already jpegs, I doubt if you'll get any file size advantage from compressing them. Although zipping/compressing is handy if you just want them all in one easily transferrable container. On 17 Nov 2009, at 09:37, Scott Matthews wrote: > right click on the folder and select 'compress' > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Martin Fry wrote: >> How can I zip a folder of pictures please? >> Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From dan_tombs at hotmail.com Tue Nov 17 10:05:19 2009 From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:05:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Delete Audio track from .mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stefan, If you previously had QT 7 Pro installed on your mac then, if you go back to your 10.6 DVD there is an option to install QT 7 as well as QT 10 it pops it in your utilities folder in applications, allows you full functionality of QT 7 and 10 hope that helps Dan > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:44:41 -0500 > From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Subject: [NMUG] Delete Audio track from .mov > > QuickTime Player 10 operating under 10.6 no longer seems to offer the option > to upgrade to QT Pro > > Consequently I can't see how to delete an audio track from a .mov movie. > This facility does not seem to be offered in QT Player 10 > > Does anyone know of a free or shareware solution? > > -- > Stefan Youngs > skype me at stefanyoungs > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Nov 17 10:22:08 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:22:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ZIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <863993B1-71CD-4134-A4A5-2ACA525F5719@virgin.net> Many thanks, Images zipped & emailed Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 17 10:40:54 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:40:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] How to find things - Was: Re: Delete Audio track from .mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1ECFF5D3-1E68-436B-94A4-2E605D9927B1@mac.com> QT7 being hidden in Applications-Utilities foxed me for a while. I eventually found QT7 via Spotlight - why do I seem to forget that Spotlight will find almost anything for me?! On 17 Nov 2009, at 10:05, Dan Tombs wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > If you previously had QT 7 Pro installed on your mac then, > if you go back to your 10.6 DVD there is an option to install QT 7 as well as QT 10 it pops it in your utilities folder in applications, allows you full functionality of QT 7 and 10 > hope that helps > Dan > >> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:44:41 -0500 >> From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Subject: [NMUG] Delete Audio track from .mov >> >> QuickTime Player 10 operating under 10.6 no longer seems to offer the option >> to upgrade to QT Pro >> >> Consequently I can't see how to delete an audio track from a .mov movie. >> This facility does not seem to be offered in QT Player 10 >> >> Does anyone know of a free or shareware solution? Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 17 20:58:39 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:58:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS (under MSC mode) Message-ID: Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new MP3 (can not afford a Apple unit) the player I was looking at works under "Mac OS (under MSC mode)" what is Mac OS (under MSC mode)? Cheers Kerin From swimwire at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 21:01:47 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:01:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS (under MSC mode) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DF9ADFB-765A-4C11-ABB3-6796E1538FED@googlemail.com> Which MP3 Player is it? MSC Mode is a mode that MP3 players use that loads them into computers as 'Media Devices' rather than just disk drives - so you'll be limited to only storing files on it that it can support, rather than using it as a drive etc. Don't forget you won't be able to sync it with iTunes as it is a non-apple device. Jack On 17 Nov 2009, at 20:58, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new MP3 (can not afford a Apple unit) the player I was looking at works under "Mac OS (under MSC mode)" what is Mac OS (under MSC mode)? > > Cheers Kerin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack at jackwebbheller.com general: swimwire at googlemail.com http://jackwebbheller.com From ricnev at mac.com Tue Nov 17 21:08:41 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:08:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS (under MSC mode) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7AF84A-C3EE-401A-9F48-F4AE71EB1739@mac.com> MSC stands for Mass Storage Class - basically with Mac OS you can use the MP3 player just a device to store files. This page gives a bit of background info: http://www.musicedmagic.com/computers/how-to-download-music-to-an-mp3-player.html On 17 Nov 2009, at 20:58, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new MP3 (can not afford a Apple unit) the player I was looking at works under "Mac OS (under MSC mode)" what is Mac OS (under MSC mode)? > > Cheers Kerin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 17 21:10:54 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:10:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac OS (under MSC mode) In-Reply-To: <0DF9ADFB-765A-4C11-ABB3-6796E1538FED@googlemail.com> References: <0DF9ADFB-765A-4C11-ABB3-6796E1538FED@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <39CAC367-5621-4B52-9AE7-7CF0C66D169A@ntlworld.com> it's a Sansa Fuze 4GB MP3 and Portable Video Player thats what I wondered and if this MSC Mode allowed you to sync On 17 Nov 2009, at 21:01, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Which MP3 Player is it? > > MSC Mode is a mode that MP3 players use that loads them into computers as 'Media Devices' rather than just disk drives - so you'll be limited to only storing files on it that it can support, rather than using it as a drive etc. > > Don't forget you won't be able to sync it with iTunes as it is a non-apple device. > > Jack > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 20:58, Kerin Westgate wrote: > >> Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new MP3 (can not afford a Apple unit) the player I was looking at works under "Mac OS (under MSC mode)" what is Mac OS (under MSC mode)? >> >> Cheers Kerin >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack at jackwebbheller.com > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > http://jackwebbheller.com > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From simonroyal at live.co.uk Wed Nov 18 12:33:58 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:33:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP Message-ID: Hi. I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into having an email address supplied Microsoft. I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now there is irony for you) and also on my phone. Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to send. Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? Simon _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 18 12:35:40 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk> Sending email is SMTP. Try looking for help with that, rather than POP3. regards, Paul On 18 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - > because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best > sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into > having an email address supplied Microsoft. > > I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now > there is irony for you) and also on my phone. > > Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to > send. > > Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? > > Simon From simonroyal at live.co.uk Wed Nov 18 12:37:30 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:37:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP In-Reply-To: <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk> References: , <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I got the incoming and outgoing server settings, followed the instructions, still no joy. I know about POP and SMTP, my other email address was POP but this just worked. Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > From: paul at durrant.co.uk > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:40 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP > > Sending email is SMTP. Try looking for help with that, rather than POP3. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 18 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Simon Royal wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - > > because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best > > sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into > > having an email address supplied Microsoft. > > > > I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now > > there is irony for you) and also on my phone. > > > > Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to > > send. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? > > > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 18 13:11:18 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP In-Reply-To: References: , <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B03F276.3000100@stackyard.org> Simon, Are you sure you set all the smtp settings? The man says: Hotmail POP3 settings: ---------------------------------------- Incoming POP server pop3.live.com Incoming POP mail port 995 POP SSL required Yes User name Your Windows Live ID (for example: example555 at hotmail.com) password The password you use to sign in to Hotmail Outgoing SMTP server smtp.live.com Outgoing SMTP mail port 25 or 587 (USE 587 - port 25 to foreign smtp servers is blocked by most ISPs) Authentication required Yes (your Windows Live ID and password) TLS/SSL required Yes (select TLS if available, if not select SSL) The above works for me on Thunderbird. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > I got the incoming and outgoing server settings, followed the instructions, still no joy. > > I know about POP and SMTP, my other email address was POP but this just worked. > > Simon Royal > > --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > > > > >> From: paul at durrant.co.uk >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:40 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP >> >> Sending email is SMTP. Try looking for help with that, rather than POP3. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 18 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Simon Royal wrote: >> >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - >>> because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best >>> sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into >>> having an email address supplied Microsoft. >>> >>> I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now >>> there is irony for you) and also on my phone. >>> >>> Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to >>> send. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? >>> >>> Simon >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From simonroyal at live.co.uk Wed Nov 18 14:40:50 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:40:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP In-Reply-To: <4B03F276.3000100@stackyard.org> References: , , <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk>, , <4B03F276.3000100@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Ken Thanks. I got the Mac sorted with that, but the Nokia required StartTLS instead of TLS/SSL. Both devices are now working. Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:18 +0000 > From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP > > Simon, > > Are you sure you set all the smtp settings? The man says: > > Hotmail POP3 settings: > ---------------------------------------- > Incoming POP server pop3.live.com > Incoming POP mail port 995 > POP SSL required Yes > User name Your Windows Live ID (for example: > example555 at hotmail.com) > password The password you use to sign in to Hotmail > Outgoing SMTP server smtp.live.com > Outgoing SMTP mail port 25 or 587 (USE 587 - port 25 to foreign smtp > servers is blocked by most ISPs) > Authentication required Yes (your Windows Live ID and password) > TLS/SSL required Yes (select TLS if available, if not select > SSL) > > The above works for me on Thunderbird. > > Ken > > Simon Royal wrote: > > Paul > > > > I got the incoming and outgoing server settings, followed the instructions, still no joy. > > > > I know about POP and SMTP, my other email address was POP but this just worked. > > > > Simon Royal > > > > --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > > > > > > > > > >> From: paul at durrant.co.uk > >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > >> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:40 +0000 > >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP > >> > >> Sending email is SMTP. Try looking for help with that, rather than POP3. > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> On 18 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Simon Royal wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - > >>> because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best > >>> sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into > >>> having an email address supplied Microsoft. > >>> > >>> I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now > >>> there is irony for you) and also on my phone. > >>> > >>> Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to > >>> send. > >>> > >>> Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? > >>> > >>> Simon > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 18 23:37:04 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:37:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP In-Reply-To: References: , , <47A75876-95D6-4569-828D-41246F77A8D4@durrant.co.uk>, , <4B03F276.3000100@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4B048520.8000006@stackyard.org> Good. It should work at least until MS change their policy of allowing remote access. Simon Royal wrote: > Ken > > Thanks. I got the Mac sorted with that, but the Nokia required StartTLS instead of TLS/SSL. > > Both devices are now working. > > Simon Royal > > --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > > > > >> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:18 +0000 >> From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP >> >> Simon, >> >> Are you sure you set all the smtp settings? The man says: >> >> Hotmail POP3 settings: >> ---------------------------------------- >> Incoming POP server pop3.live.com >> Incoming POP mail port 995 >> POP SSL required Yes >> User name Your Windows Live ID (for example: >> example555 at hotmail.com) >> password The password you use to sign in to Hotmail >> Outgoing SMTP server smtp.live.com >> Outgoing SMTP mail port 25 or 587 (USE 587 - port 25 to foreign smtp >> servers is blocked by most ISPs) >> Authentication required Yes (your Windows Live ID and password) >> TLS/SSL required Yes (select TLS if available, if not select >> SSL) >> >> The above works for me on Thunderbird. >> >> Ken >> >> Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Paul >>> >>> I got the incoming and outgoing server settings, followed the instructions, still no joy. >>> >>> I know about POP and SMTP, my other email address was POP but this just worked. >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> >>> --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: paul at durrant.co.uk >>>> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >>>> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:40 +0000 >>>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Live Email Via POP >>>> >>>> Sending email is SMTP. Try looking for help with that, rather than POP3. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On 18 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Simon Royal wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> I have a new free email address, it is a Windows Live address - >>>>> because it looked the best option for free and gave me the best >>>>> sounding free email address, before any of you read too much into >>>>> having an email address supplied Microsoft. >>>>> >>>>> I am having problems getting it to work via POP on both my Mac (now >>>>> there is irony for you) and also on my phone. >>>>> >>>>> Both will pick up incoming emails, but I can't get either device to >>>>> send. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone use one of these addresses? >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 19 02:51:36 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:51:36 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Old Mac/New Genius Message-ID: I thought this might interest certain folks at nmug.. What Happens When You Bring a 22-Year-Old Mac to the Genius Bar? -- Stefan Youngs skype me at stefanyoungs From alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 19 14:49:52 2009 From: alan.barber3 at ntlworld.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:49:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] change to ipods Message-ID: If anyone has a hifi stand they no longer use I have need of one. Let me know off group please. Regards Alan From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 19 17:26:19 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X Message-ID: For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for Mac for FREE. NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write disks formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This software just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, this is a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html regards, Paul From penguinsplj at me.com Thu Nov 19 18:19:04 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:19:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B3FBFBA-4D56-436C-914E-9C6F6A5582FC@me.com> On Nov 19, 2009, at 17:26, Paul Durrant wrote: > For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for > Mac for FREE. You beat me to it Paul! Just to repeat an important part of Paul's message, you must not only download the software but install it as well before the time runs out. Installation involves requesting and receiving a serial number. Paul C From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 18:52:32 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:52:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sure this will come in handy one day, thanks! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: > For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for > Mac for FREE. > > NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write disks > formatted in the ?NTFS format used by some Windows disks. > > Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This software > just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. > > So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, this is > a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. > > http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html > > regards, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From simonroyal at live.co.uk Thu Nov 19 20:11:42 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:11:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul NTFS-3G is free anyway. I have been using it for a few months and it works good. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > From: paul at durrant.co.uk > To: nmug at nmug.org.uk > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:19 +0000 > Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X > > For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for > Mac for FREE. > > NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write disks > formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. > > Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This software > just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. > > So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, this is > a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. > > http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html > > regards, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 19 20:27:17 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:27:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> Im sure I'm wrong but I've just installed NTFS-6.5-for-Mac and now my MacBook seems to fly, I cant see how this app would make any difference. regards Kerin On 19 Nov 2009, at 18:52, Scott Matthews wrote: > I'm sure this will come in handy one day, thanks! > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: >> For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for >> Mac for FREE. >> >> NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write disks >> formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. >> >> Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This software >> just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. >> >> So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, this is >> a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. >> >> http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguinsplj at me.com Thu Nov 19 20:41:54 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:41:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> References: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Nov 19, 2009, at 20:27, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Im sure I'm wrong but I've just installed NTFS-6.5-for-Mac and now > my MacBook seems to fly, Did you spill your Red Bull on the keyboard? I believe that gives you wings. Paul C From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 19 20:44:37 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:44:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> References: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: It won't make any difference. The code doesn't even get called until an NTFS disk is attached. Paul On 19 Nov 2009, at 20:27, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Im sure I'm wrong but I've just installed NTFS-6.5-for-Mac and now > my MacBook seems to fly, I cant see how this app would make any > difference. > > regards > Kerin > > > On 19 Nov 2009, at 18:52, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> I'm sure this will come in handy one day, thanks! >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Paul Durrant >> wrote: >>> For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for >>> Mac for FREE. >>> >>> NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write >>> disks >>> formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. >>> >>> Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This >>> software >>> just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. >>> >>> So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, >>> this is >>> a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. >>> >>> http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 19 20:48:04 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:48:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: lol I know but seems to be flying at the moment, even photoshop seems to start much faster :) On 19 Nov 2009, at 20:41, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Nov 19, 2009, at 20:27, Kerin Westgate wrote: > >> Im sure I'm wrong but I've just installed NTFS-6.5-for-Mac and now >> my MacBook seems to fly, > > Did you spill your Red Bull on the keyboard? I believe that gives you > wings. > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 19 21:38:21 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:38:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: <222466AB-D55E-4E86-94D3-12EF20598BC9@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <1E75627F-34AC-4FBF-A0E1-B3EED8110716@ntlworld.com> Found out what it is, after I installed NTFS I had to reboot, I didn't restart a Christmas Tree I had on my desktop, sad I know but it is christmas, anyway no christmas tree faster mac :) Kerin On 19 Nov 2009, at 20:48, Kerin Westgate wrote: > lol I know > but seems to be flying at the moment, even photoshop seems to start much faster :) > > > > On 19 Nov 2009, at 20:41, Paul Chapman wrote: > >> >> On Nov 19, 2009, at 20:27, Kerin Westgate wrote: >> >>> Im sure I'm wrong but I've just installed NTFS-6.5-for-Mac and now >>> my MacBook seems to fly, >> >> Did you spill your Red Bull on the keyboard? I believe that gives you >> wings. >> >> Paul C >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Nov 19 22:45:03 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:45:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> Yes, I was afraid to ask what all the fuss was about. I've been running the free ntfs-3g for about a year or so and had forgotten it was there until the NTFS for Mac was mentioned. Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > > NTFS-3G is free anyway. I have been using it for a few months and it works good. > > http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ > > Simon Royal > > --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal > > > > >> From: paul at durrant.co.uk >> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:19 +0000 >> Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X >> >> For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for >> Mac for FREE. >> >> NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write disks >> formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. >> >> Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This software >> just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. >> >> So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, this is >> a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. >> >> http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Nov 19 23:16:43 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:16:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> References: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <94A8DE7B-2A3D-431F-AFF9-91AAA824F0A6@virgin.net> As Paul D said it's free. The only thing better would be if they paid You to download it! Ken Arnoldi On 19 Nov 2009, at 10:45 PM, Ken Hamer wrote: > Yes, I was afraid to ask what all the fuss was about. I've been > running > the free ntfs-3g for about a year or so and had forgotten it was there > until the NTFS for Mac was mentioned. > > Simon Royal wrote: >> Paul >> >> >> NTFS-3G is free anyway. I have been using it for a few months and >> it works good. >> >> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ >> >> Simon Royal >> >> --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: >> Simon-Royal >> >> >> >> >>> From: paul at durrant.co.uk >>> To: nmug at nmug.org.uk >>> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:19 +0000 >>> Subject: [NMUG] Free NTFS read/write for Mac OS X >>> >>> For the next 14 hours or so, you can download and register NTFS for >>> Mac for FREE. >>> >>> NTFS for Mac is software that allows Mac OS X to read and write >>> disks >>> formatted in the NTFS format used by some Windows disks. >>> >>> Mac OS X can read & write FAT32 formatted disks already. This >>> software >>> just adds the ability to read & write NTFS disks. >>> >>> So if you ever need to read disks used with a Windows machine, >>> this is >>> a really good deal. You don't get much better than free. >>> >>> http://dealmac.com/NTFS-6.5-for-Mac-downloads-for-free-/330225.html >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email >> accounts >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From june.perrett at mac.com Fri Nov 20 09:03:50 2009 From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:03:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Nmug invitation for 24th Nov. meeting Message-ID: <78D38B4D-9EEB-4C8D-AE82-37E77FF0C304@mac.com> Thank you for the invitation. I'm sorry I am unable to come. Hope you have a good attendance. Happy Christmas to you all. June (Perrett) From hidunc at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 20 15:38:26 2009 From: hidunc at ntlworld.com (J L Duncan Bradford) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:38:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up Message-ID: Any idea why keying my ?-sign [pounds sterling] key suddenly means it displaying a Hash sign on screen and in print? And, furthermore, how I get it to mean what I say it means when I mean it? -------------- next part -------------- From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 20 15:47:38 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:47:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> Your keyboard is set to US Keyboard instead of UK keyboard. System Preferences/International/Input Menu Make sure British is checked, Make sure "Show input menu in menu bar". Select "British" from the menu bar menu (small country flag). You probably accidentally hit commmmand-space or command-alt-space. You could uncheck all languages except British to stop this happening. regards, Paul On 20 Nov 2009, at 15:38, J L Duncan Bradford wrote: > Any idea why keying my ?-sign [pounds sterling] key suddenly means > it displaying a Hash sign on screen and in print? > And, furthermore, how I get it to mean what I say it means when I > mean it? From macman at f2s.com Fri Nov 20 16:17:45 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:17:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: As my dear old Father In Law would often say "apropos of nothing", here's a little bit of boring trivia: The americans often call the hash 'the pound key', but it's nothing to do with ?????s, but because in the US, the symbol also means lb weight in Avoirdupois. I promise to get out more .... Robbie On 20 Nov 2009, at 15:47, Paul Durrant wrote: Your keyboard is set to US Keyboard instead of UK keyboard. System Preferences/International/Input Menu Make sure British is checked, Make sure "Show input menu in menu bar". Select "British" from the menu bar menu (small country flag). You probably accidentally hit commmmand-space or command-alt-space. You could uncheck all languages except British to stop this happening. regards, Paul On 20 Nov 2009, at 15:38, J L Duncan Bradford wrote: > Any idea why keying my ?-sign [pounds sterling] key suddenly means > it displaying a Hash sign on screen and in print? > And, furthermore, how I get it to mean what I say it means when I > mean it? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Nov 20 17:33:19 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <4B06D2DF.3070405@stackyard.org> Yes, except most Americans I know call a "#" a "hash" and I didn't hear it referred to as "pound" until quite recently. I'm American, by the way. And BT personnel often refer to is as "square". This would be fine except for the fact that on most devices with the aforementioned symbol, it is in italics so is actually a parallelogram - and that's ignoring the sticky-out bits. I prefer "hash". Ken Robbie Murray wrote: > As my dear old Father In Law would often say "apropos of nothing", > here's a little bit of boring trivia: > > The americans often call the hash 'the pound key', but it's nothing to > do with ?????s, but because in the US, the symbol also means lb weight > in Avoirdupois. > > I promise to get out more .... > > > Robbie > > > > On 20 Nov 2009, at 15:47, Paul Durrant wrote: > > Your keyboard is set to US Keyboard instead of UK keyboard. > > System Preferences/International/Input Menu > > Make sure British is checked, Make sure "Show input menu in menu bar". > Select "British" from the menu bar menu (small country flag). > > You probably accidentally hit commmmand-space or command-alt-space. > > You could uncheck all languages except British to stop this happening. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 20 Nov 2009, at 15:38, J L Duncan Bradford wrote: > > >> Any idea why keying my ?-sign [pounds sterling] key suddenly means >> it displaying a Hash sign on screen and in print? >> And, furthermore, how I get it to mean what I say it means when I >> mean it? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 20 17:44:59 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: <4B06D2DF.3070405@stackyard.org> References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> <4B06D2DF.3070405@stackyard.org> Message-ID: The # sign is (in unicode) officially the "number sign". there were attempts to give it a proper name - octothorpe. But that never really caught on. It is, of course, distinct from the musical sharp symbol (?). And yes, I always call it hash too. On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:33, Ken Hamer wrote: > Yes, except most Americans I know call a "#" a "hash" and I didn't > hear > it referred to as "pound" until quite recently. I'm American, by the > way. And BT personnel often refer to is as "square". This would be > fine except for the fact that on most devices with the aforementioned > symbol, it is in italics so is actually a parallelogram - and that's > ignoring the sticky-out bits. I prefer "hash". > > Ken > > Robbie Murray wrote: >> As my dear old Father In Law would often say "apropos of nothing", >> here's a little bit of boring trivia: >> >> The americans often call the hash 'the pound key', but it's nothing >> to >> do with ?????s, but because in the US, the symbol also means lb >> weight >> in Avoirdupois. From peterforrester at waitrose.com Fri Nov 20 17:56:38 2009 From: peterforrester at waitrose.com (Peter Forrester) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] internet speed improvement Message-ID: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> Sometime ago I moaned about our download speed - we're out in the sticks and at the end of our line. The highest download speed ever achieved was 3.23 Mbps, and in the evening we faded to less than dial- up. I have been checking our speed using both www.broadband.co.uk and www.speedtester.bt.com (we're with BT). After two Indian gentlemen said that we had a fault on our line and gave me a number to ring another Indian gentleman who said that we didn't, I heard about the BT Broadband Accelerator. Free for the price of the postage. There is quite a lot of pro and con material on the Web but to my surprise it seems to work. Best download speeds are now over 5 Mbps. This still falls, sometimes to useless levels, during the evening, but I can now download an hour of BBC 4 in about twenty minutes - it used to take a little over an hour, and once ten hours. So worth trying. One slight puzzle. I checked with both speed-testers one-after-the- other on occasion. Generally the BT speedtester gave a higher value - 1240 Kbps / 3800 Kbps; 1392 Kbps / 5459 Kbps; 2016 Kbps / 4614 Kbps; 896 Kbps / 3770 Kbps. -? Peter From davidenglish at mac.com Fri Nov 20 18:03:06 2009 From: davidenglish at mac.com (David English) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:03:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> <4B06D2DF.3070405@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <130629914546789263893388741416899019751-Webmail@me.com> # is also medical shorthand for fracture. David www.davidenglish.co.uk From macman at f2s.com Fri Nov 20 18:06:55 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:06:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> <4B06D2DF.3070405@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <57287172-97E2-4875-987D-1DFC0C2A4019@f2s.com> I only came across the 'pound' reference when I opened the first of many Vonage accounts we now run - the default voicemail greeting prompts "press 'pound' now to leave a message" Our elderly customers were most discombobulated! Robbie On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:44, Paul Durrant wrote: The # sign is (in unicode) officially the "number sign". there were attempts to give it a proper name - octothorpe. But that never really caught on. It is, of course, distinct from the musical sharp symbol (?). And yes, I always call it hash too. On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:33, Ken Hamer wrote: > Yes, except most Americans I know call a "#" a "hash" and I didn't > hear > it referred to as "pound" until quite recently. I'm American, by the > way. And BT personnel often refer to is as "square". This would be > fine except for the fact that on most devices with the aforementioned > symbol, it is in italics so is actually a parallelogram - and that's > ignoring the sticky-out bits. I prefer "hash". > > Ken > > Robbie Murray wrote: >> As my dear old Father In Law would often say "apropos of nothing", >> here's a little bit of boring trivia: >> >> The americans often call the hash 'the pound key', but it's nothing >> to >> do with ?????s, but because in the US, the symbol also means lb >> weight >> in Avoirdupois. _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Nov 20 18:07:51 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:07:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! Message-ID: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Hi all Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending large images to clients. I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and has a limit on MB's sent. Regards Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From penguinsplj at me.com Fri Nov 20 18:11:36 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:11:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Message-ID: <2D4252DB-D257-4973-8EE2-79B46B86C305@me.com> On Nov 20, 2009, at 18:07, Martin Fry wrote: > Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending large > images to clients. > I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and has > a limit on MB's sent. http://www.fileflyer.com/ http://www.sendspace.com/ Paul C From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Nov 20 23:33:05 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:33:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] internet speed improvement In-Reply-To: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> References: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <4B072731.4030003@stackyard.org> Peter, There are a couple of things here. First, you probably don't know what your connection speed is. This should not vary at all and can usually be discovered from the router's web pages, but all routers are different so I can't tell you where to look to find this out. The connection speed will be affected by distance from telephone exchange, line quality and house telephone wiring complexity. On the other hand, the data speed (what you have measured) is limited by the connection speed as well as the contention between you and other users on the same telephone exchange. The connection speed is usually the main governing factor of the data speed. Improve the connection speed and the data speed is usually improved unless your ISP is particularly bad. You have installed an interstitial faceplate (iPlate) which filters the old, generally-unused ringer wire of your internal telephone wiring. These plates are good and easy to fit. They reduce the interference caused by the ring wire's tendency to act as an antenna so they improve the signal-to-noise ratio and the router can connect to the equipment at the telephone exchange at a faster speed. They aren't as good as something called a filter faceplate but a filter faceplate is harder to fit. Neither of these devices will improve the connection speed for anyone who has only one telephone socket in their house (sorry Stefan), who is very close to the telephone exchange or who has a very poor quality line from the telephone exchange. They are for reducing interference generated by internal wiring ONLY. This is probably why there are any negative comments about them - people don't recognize their limitations. They're good but they can't work magic. Speed testers are not very reliable. They will suffer from contention in the same way that your internet connection does so your speed will vary. I wouldn't worry too much about variations. The more important factor is the connection speed which, in your case, appears to have been improved by the iPlate. Finally, 3.23 Mbps is wonderful. I wish I had that sort of speed. We can only get about 1.6 where we are. There are some places like Lyng where there is no broadband possible AT ALL. Shame upon you BT! It's not like fibre optics was invented yesterday. Mustn't rant, mustn't rant. Ken Peter Forrester wrote: > Sometime ago I moaned about our download speed - we're out in the > sticks and at the end of our line. The highest download speed ever > achieved was 3.23 Mbps, and in the evening we faded to less than dial- > up. I have been checking our speed using both www.broadband.co.uk and www.speedtester.bt.com > (we're with BT). After two Indian gentlemen said that we had a > fault on our line and gave me a number to ring another Indian > gentleman who said that we didn't, I heard about the BT Broadband > Accelerator. Free for the price of the postage. There is quite a lot > of pro and con material on the Web but to my surprise it seems to > work. Best download speeds are now over 5 Mbps. This still falls, > sometimes to useless levels, during the evening, but I can now > download an hour of BBC 4 in about twenty minutes - it used to take a > little over an hour, and once ten hours. So worth trying. > > One slight puzzle. I checked with both speed-testers one-after-the- > other on occasion. Generally the BT speedtester gave a higher value - > 1240 Kbps / 3800 Kbps; 1392 Kbps / 5459 Kbps; 2016 Kbps / 4614 Kbps; > 896 Kbps / 3770 Kbps. -? > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sat Nov 21 00:14:40 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:14:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Message-ID: www.dropbox.com Martin Fry said recently: > Hi all > > Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending large > images to clients. > > I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and has > a limit on MB's sent. > > Regards > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 09:57:12 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:57:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign now a Hash-up In-Reply-To: References: <4FC5B911-FE87-436A-A8C8-46BB587CADE7@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: An hour in a darkened room helps Nathan On 20 Nov 2009, at 16:17, Robbie Murray wrote: > As my dear old Father In Law would often say "apropos of nothing", > here's a little bit of boring trivia: > > The americans often call the hash 'the pound key', but it's nothing to > do with ?????s, but because in the US, the symbol also means lb weight > in Avoirdupois. > > I promise to get out more .... > > > Robbie > > From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 11:09:11 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI Brian Thanks for the dropbox name but I must issue a warning about them! Reading their terms & conditions there is a section which says; "While you own the content contained in Your Files, files placed in your public folders are automatically available to other Dropbox users and to the general public. By placing Your Files in your public folder, you hereby grant all other Dropbox users and the public a non- exclusive, non-commercial, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, perpetual and irrevocable right and license to use and exploit Your Files in your public folder" I need an FTP server to send high res images to my clients throughout the World, not to other Dropbox users. Thanks for replying anyhow but I can't really use them. Regards Martin > www.dropbox.com > > > Martin Fry said recently: >> >> Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending >> large >> images to clients. >> I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and >> has >> a limit on MB's sent. >> Martin From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 11:09:27 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:09:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6386CCF1-6741-4FC0-BAA1-9D67A9BF8C0C@ntlworld.com> Question about Dropbox If you wanted to transfer files between people does the person receiving need to have dropbox installed also? Regards Kerin On 21 Nov 2009, at 00:14, Brian Steere wrote: > www.dropbox.com > > > Martin Fry said recently: > >> Hi all >> >> Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending large >> images to clients. >> >> I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and has >> a limit on MB's sent. >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> >> Martin Fry >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 11:17:52 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:17:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22A4F958-3892-4CA4-B355-C0043282B846@ntlworld.com> Not really sure how you would do this, but would it be worth you investing in Snow Leopard Server then build your web site and then allow your clients to upload there images direct from you? regards Kerin On 21 Nov 2009, at 11:09, Martin Fry wrote: > > HI Brian > > Thanks for the dropbox name but I must issue a warning about them! > Reading their terms & conditions there is a section which says; > > "While you own the content contained in Your Files, files placed in > your public folders are automatically available to other Dropbox users > and to the general public. By placing Your Files in your public > folder, you hereby grant all other Dropbox users and the public a non- > exclusive, non-commercial, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, > perpetual and irrevocable right and license to use and exploit Your > Files in your public folder" > > I need an FTP server to send high res images to my clients throughout > the World, not to other Dropbox users. > > Thanks for replying anyhow but I can't really use them. > > Regards > > Martin > > > >> www.dropbox.com >> >> >> Martin Fry said recently: > >>> >>> Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending >>> large >>> images to clients. >>> I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and >>> has >>> a limit on MB's sent. >>> Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Sat Nov 21 11:22:34 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:22:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Message-ID: do you have a dotMac/mobile me account? you can password protect certain iDisk folders if you need to, but there are bandwidth restrictions, so may not be suitable for very large files. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi all > > Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! ?for sending large > images to clients. > > I use Yousendit! now, ?but this only allows one image per time and has > a limit on MB's sent. > > Regards > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Nov 21 11:26:58 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:26:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] internet speed improvement In-Reply-To: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> References: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <4B07CE82.3000405@stackyard.org> And as if by magic, the front page of the EDP today tells it all. 3.2Mbps is far more than you should expect, according to BT and this govenment's policy. Disgraceful. Peter Forrester wrote: > Sometime ago I moaned about our download speed - we're out in the > sticks and at the end of our line. The highest download speed ever > achieved was 3.23 Mbps, and in the evening we faded to less than dial- > up. I have been checking our speed using both www.broadband.co.uk and www.speedtester.bt.com > (we're with BT). After two Indian gentlemen said that we had a > fault on our line and gave me a number to ring another Indian > gentleman who said that we didn't, I heard about the BT Broadband > Accelerator. Free for the price of the postage. There is quite a lot > of pro and con material on the Web but to my surprise it seems to > work. Best download speeds are now over 5 Mbps. This still falls, > sometimes to useless levels, during the evening, but I can now > download an hour of BBC 4 in about twenty minutes - it used to take a > little over an hour, and once ten hours. So worth trying. > > One slight puzzle. I checked with both speed-testers one-after-the- > other on occasion. Generally the BT speedtester gave a higher value - > 1240 Kbps / 3800 Kbps; 1392 Kbps / 5459 Kbps; 2016 Kbps / 4614 Kbps; > 896 Kbps / 3770 Kbps. -? > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 11:29:37 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:29:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <22A4F958-3892-4CA4-B355-C0043282B846@ntlworld.com> References: <22A4F958-3892-4CA4-B355-C0043282B846@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <63D713F8-08A4-4928-A8E1-07BD8E9D9DC3@virgin.net> Hi Kerin None of that is necessary. Anyone can buy an FTP package, I use CuteFTPMac which I think cost about ?25. I use this to upload pictures to my website and also to a few client's own FTP addresses, If they have them, but most, unbelievably don't! As they deal with images all the time I find it amazing that they don't have them but I can't force them to spend money and so they have to rely on our fantastic postal service ( Joke!) Regards Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com > Not really sure how you would do this, but would it be worth you > investing in Snow Leopard Server then build your web site and then > allow your clients to upload there images direct from you? > > regards > Kerin >> >> I need an FTP server to send high res images to my clients throughout >> the World, not to other Dropbox users. >> >> Thanks for replying anyhow but I can't really use them. >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 11:31:57 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott Don't have one, don't really want another account with more passwords to try & remember! The FTP server idea works best, if everyone has one. Martin > do you have a dotMac/mobile me account? > > you can password protect certain iDisk folders if you need to, but > there are bandwidth restrictions, so may not be suitable for very > large files. > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Martin Fry > wrote: >> Hi all >> >> Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending >> large >> images to clients. >> >> I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and >> has >> a limit on MB's sent. >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> >> Martin Fry >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Nov 21 12:06:47 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:06:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> Martin, I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort which you might want to avoid. Ken Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Scott > > Don't have one, don't really want another account with more passwords > to try & remember! > > The FTP server idea works best, if everyone has one. > > Martin > > > >> do you have a dotMac/mobile me account? >> >> you can password protect certain iDisk folders if you need to, but >> there are bandwidth restrictions, so may not be suitable for very >> large files. >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Martin Fry > >>> wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> Is there any other free FTP servers than Yousendit! for sending >>> large >>> images to clients. >>> >>> I use Yousendit! now, but this only allows one image per time and >>> has >>> a limit on MB's sent. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> Martin Fry >>> www.martinfryphotography.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From hidunc at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 12:15:58 2009 From: hidunc at ntlworld.com (J L Duncan Bradford) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:15:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] gbp sign and hash Message-ID: <85A071E8-5BDB-48D7-9103-5A62F4C5C549@ntlworld.com> Thanks all, it was mainly that the ibook always resets to U.S. [or u/ s] everything when you change Apps, a 'feature' that I'd forgotten all about. Have now unchecked US availability and so far, so good. When I was at school [and also at teacher training college] we were told that the 'hash' symbol as it now gets called was the 'cross hatch' or abbreviated to 'hatch'. From my memory the Hash word crept in about 10 - 20 years ago. My music teacher always called the 'sharp' symbol the cross hatch, and got into a pedantic argument with the English teacher after I'd snitched on him. Ah heady days... I can still smell the anoraks -------------- next part -------------- From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 12:20:03 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:20:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <723C61A8-8CC3-4BB2-A332-80EF847609A7@virgin.net> Hi Ken My own dropbox! I had thought about this but I have to have a word with this brilliant web designer I use TO SEE HOW CHEAP IT CAN BE DONE FOR....OH HI DAVID!!! Are you there? Regards Martin > > > I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set > aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the > customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are > hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort > which you might want to avoid. > Ken > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Nov 21 12:26:49 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:26:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <723C61A8-8CC3-4BB2-A332-80EF847609A7@virgin.net> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> <723C61A8-8CC3-4BB2-A332-80EF847609A7@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4B07DC89.1020805@stackyard.org> Also, as you use Virgin, you should have access to the V Stuff service. I'm not sure what the limitations of this are but it's something else you might want to investigate. Ken Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Ken > > My own dropbox! > > I had thought about this but I have to have a word with this brilliant > web designer I use TO SEE HOW CHEAP IT CAN BE DONE FOR....OH HI > DAVID!!! Are you there? > > Regards > > Martin > > > > > > > > > >> I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set >> aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the >> customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are >> hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort >> which you might want to avoid. >> Ken >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 12:45:06 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:45:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <63D713F8-08A4-4928-A8E1-07BD8E9D9DC3@virgin.net> References: <22A4F958-3892-4CA4-B355-C0043282B846@ntlworld.com> <63D713F8-08A4-4928-A8E1-07BD8E9D9DC3@virgin.net> Message-ID: Just a thought that's all just trying to help Kerin On 21 Nov 2009, at 11:29, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Kerin > > None of that is necessary. > > Anyone can buy an FTP package, I use CuteFTPMac which I think cost > about ?25. > > I use this to upload pictures to my website and also to a few client's > own FTP addresses, If they have them, but most, unbelievably don't! > > As they deal with images all the time I find it amazing that they > don't have them but I can't force them to spend money and so they have > to rely on our fantastic postal service ( Joke!) > > Regards > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> Not really sure how you would do this, but would it be worth you >> investing in Snow Leopard Server then build your web site and then >> allow your clients to upload there images direct from you? >> >> regards >> Kerin >>> >>> I need an FTP server to send high res images to my clients throughout >>> the World, not to other Dropbox users. >>> >>> Thanks for replying anyhow but I can't really use them. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allanmacam at me.com Sat Nov 21 12:56:23 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:56:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <01DB1BA7-8582-4595-9A1E-F50CB73EA0AB@me.com> This is what I do with DropBox. each file is password protected and I only give out URLs to the individual files, not the Public Folder. AJ On 21 Nov 2009, at 12:06, Ken Hamer wrote: > I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set > aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the > customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are > hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort > which you might want to avoid. From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sat Nov 21 12:58:41 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:58:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colours in Quark vs PDF Message-ID: Dear All We've been doing our Christmas cards and noticed that, when we save the Quark file as a PDF, the colours appear rather washed out on the screen. Is this normal and will it print as in the original photo, or is it something we ought to adjust for somewhere along the line? Or is it some artifact of the Mac and colour balance of the monitor screen? Best wishes, David and Thea -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sat Nov 21 13:21:40 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:21:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: <01DB1BA7-8582-4595-9A1E-F50CB73EA0AB@me.com> References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> <01DB1BA7-8582-4595-9A1E-F50CB73EA0AB@me.com> Message-ID: Dear Allan, How do you password protect an individual file? That would be very useful to me as I use Dropbox too. Best wishes, David >This is what I do with DropBox. each file is password protected and >I only give out URLs to the individual files, not the Public Folder. > >AJ > > >On 21 Nov 2009, at 12:06, Ken Hamer wrote: > >> I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set >> aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the >> customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are >> hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort >> which you might want to avoid. > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 13:29:47 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:29:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb Message-ID: <6D18B157-9B8C-458D-837D-BCD39A737E83@ntlworld.com> Hi, I've been trying to update my web site on my local drive as a copy, but when I click Publish Site Changes iWeb crashes with this error iWeb quit unexpectedly while using the SFWordProcessing plugin Problem Details etc Process: iWeb [3162] Path: /Applications/iWeb.app/Contents/MacOS/iWeb Identifier: com.apple.iWeb Version: 3.0.1 (301) Build Info: iWeb-4750000~14 Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [105] PlugIn Path: /Applications/iWeb.app/Contents/Frameworks/SFWordProcessing.framework/Versions/A/SFWordProcessing PlugIn Identifier: SFWordProcessing PlugIn Version: ??? (???) Date/Time: 2009-11-21 13:08:06.188 +0000 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 105231 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 4 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 1280 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 4 Anonymous UUID: B3362DB5-39C4-4126-B424-2F4D6FA40C1E Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000f8aa1d24 Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 SFWordProcessing 0x00efa1bd -[SFWPATSUITypesetter pAdjustGlyphPositionsForLineFragment:startGlyphIndex:stopGlyphIndex:localLineRange:typesetterRange:typesetterAdjustStartCharIndex:atPosition:] + 79 1 SFWordProcessing 0x00ef9311 -[SFWPATSUITypesetter layoutLine:paramBlock:] + 5429 2 SFWordProcessing 0x00ef1afd -[SFWPLayoutManager layoutContainerWithFlags:spaceAbove:maxContainerSize:maxAttachmentSize:breakCharacter:] + 5399 3 SFWordProcessing 0x00eef8b4 -[SFWPLayoutManager 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performSelectorOnMainThread:withObject:waitUntilDone:] + 184 28 com.apple.iWeb 0x0016c7eb 0x1000 + 1488875 29 com.apple.iWeb 0x0016c581 0x1000 + 1488257 30 com.apple.iWeb 0x00165e4b 0x1000 + 1461835 31 com.apple.iWeb 0x0016550a 0x1000 + 1459466 32 com.apple.iWeb 0x00163b53 0x1000 + 1452883 33 com.apple.iWeb 0x00140e26 0x1000 + 1310246 34 com.apple.iWeb 0x0023a4f4 0x1000 + 2331892 35 com.apple.iWeb 0x0023a563 0x1000 + 2332003 36 com.apple.iWeb 0x00237dbd 0x1000 + 2321853 37 com.apple.AppKit 0x93218f86 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 112 38 com.apple.sf.sfapplication 0x005e28fa -[SFAppApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 608 39 com.apple.AppKit 0x93218e39 -[NSMenuItem _corePerformAction] + 435 40 com.apple.AppKit 0x93218b2a -[NSCarbonMenuImpl performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:] + 174 41 com.apple.AppKit 0x93218a16 -[NSMenu performActionForItemAtIndex:] + 65 42 com.apple.AppKit 0x932189c9 -[NSMenu _internalPerformActionForItemAtIndex:] + 50 43 com.apple.AppKit 0x9321892f -[NSMenuItem _internalPerformActionThroughMenuIfPossible] + 97 44 com.apple.AppKit 0x93218873 -[NSCarbonMenuImpl _carbonCommandProcessEvent:handlerCallRef:] + 336 45 com.apple.AppKit 0x9320cf79 NSSLMMenuEventHandler + 404 46 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x924e4e29 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567 47 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x924e40f0 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411 48 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92506981 SendEventToEventTarget + 52 49 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92532e3b SendHICommandEvent(unsigned long, HICommand const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned char, void const*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventRef**) + 448 50 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92557b20 SendMenuCommandWithContextAndModifiers + 66 51 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92557ad7 SendMenuItemSelectedEvent + 121 52 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x925579d3 FinishMenuSelection(SelectionData*, MenuResult*, MenuResult*) + 152 53 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92527212 MenuSelectCore(MenuData*, Point, double, unsigned long, OpaqueMenuRef**, unsigned short*) + 440 54 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x925269a9 _HandleMenuSelection2 + 465 55 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x925267c7 _HandleMenuSelection + 53 56 com.apple.AppKit 0x932064ba _NSHandleCarbonMenuEvent + 285 57 com.apple.AppKit 0x931db076 _DPSNextEvent + 2304 58 com.apple.AppKit 0x931da306 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 156 59 com.apple.AppKit 0x9319c49f -[NSApplication run] + 821 60 com.apple.AppKit 0x93194535 NSApplicationMain + 574 61 com.apple.iWeb 0x0000b2d7 0x1000 + 41687 62 com.apple.iWeb 0x00002e7c 0x1000 + 7804 63 com.apple.iWeb 0x00002da9 0x1000 + 7593 From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Nov 21 13:49:31 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:49:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWeb In-Reply-To: <6D18B157-9B8C-458D-837D-BCD39A737E83@ntlworld.com> References: <6D18B157-9B8C-458D-837D-BCD39A737E83@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <335778E4-364C-4C0B-9397-028AB6B1C2E5@durrant.co.uk> There's an Apple discussion thread on this, that seem to have some work-arounds. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10301452� It's a bug. Hopefully it'll get fixed in the next update. Meanwhile, read the thread and follow some of the advice, and hopefully that'll get you uploading again. regards, Paul On 21 Nov 2009, at 13:29, Kerin Westgate wrote: > Hi, I've been trying to update my web site on my local drive as a > copy, but when I click Publish Site Changes iWeb crashes with this > error > > iWeb quit unexpectedly while using the SFWordProcessing plugin > From allanmacam at me.com Sat Nov 21 13:52:49 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:52:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: <19090A72-76A8-471E-AB6B-DDBD1631A8A8@virgin.net> <4B07D7D7.9040708@stackyard.org> <01DB1BA7-8582-4595-9A1E-F50CB73EA0AB@me.com> Message-ID: <5992D574-B21B-4DAB-AE39-B60487421A84@me.com> On the desktop, pop the document into a folder and using BetterZip or similar app, make an encrypted Zip file of it choosing what level of encryption you wish to use. As far as I know, it's not evidently possible how to make an encrypted file through the OS's built in Zip. AJ On 21 Nov 2009, at 13:21, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear Allan, > > How do you password protect an individual file? That would be very > useful to me as I use Dropbox too. > > Best wishes, > > David > >> This is what I do with DropBox. each file is password protected and >> I only give out URLs to the individual files, not the Public Folder. >> >> AJ >> >> >> On 21 Nov 2009, at 12:06, Ken Hamer wrote: >> >>> I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious here but why not set >>> aside an area on your own web site to store files? Then send the >>> customer the URL and password to the area where their photos are >>> hidden. I suppose the drawback is that it would involve admin effort >>> which you might want to avoid. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 21 15:02:53 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:02:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Yousendit! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 Nov 2009, at 11:09, Martin Fry wrote: > > HI Brian > > Thanks for the dropbox name but I must issue a warning about them! > Reading their terms & conditions there is a section which says; > > "While you own the content contained in Your Files, files placed in > your public folders are automatically available to other Dropbox users > and to the general public. By placing Your Files in your public > folder, you hereby grant all other Dropbox users and the public a non- > exclusive, non-commercial, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, > perpetual and irrevocable right and license to use and exploit Your > Files in your public folder" > > I need an FTP server to send high res images to my clients throughout > the World, not to other Dropbox users. > > Thanks for replying anyhow but I can't really use them. But this section goes on to say: "If you do not want other people to be able to use Your Files in this manner, then simply do not place Your Files in your public folder." In other words, if you want to keep files private and only accessible to people you invite, then DON'T put them in your public folder. Your shared folder is where to put the files you want your clients to access - if you tell only your clients the URL of the files, only your clients will have access to those files. Unless I'm missing something? Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sat Nov 21 17:27:07 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:27:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Epson Stylus Photo 950 Printer Message-ID: <2FA5A34D-AACA-4E0D-BDB4-60DF8D04888B@mendelsohn.me.uk> Our printer has died, but to someone who knows how to fix it, it might be worth having? Before it got sick, I had stocked up on a number of genuine Epson ink cartridges and have the following - all new and unopened: 2 x T0331 - Black 2 x T0333 - Magenta 1 x T0336 - Lt. Magenta 2 x T0332 Cyan 1 x T0335 Lt. Cyan. (These cost between ?12 and ?13 pounds each to buy from MX2 or 7dayshop) In addition I have one T0344 Yellow which I opened and installed in the printer when it died and replaced it with another new cartridge which is in the printer as I thought the first one was possibly faulty when the printer did not respond as normal. There are also the other 5 separate cartridges still in the printer which probably still have some ink in them? I also still have an unused roll of gloss paper in the roll paper holder together with the front sheet feeder, CD-R tray and Auto Cutter plus the installation CD and Setup booklet. Should anyone be interested in buying this as one lot at a reasonable price, please contact me off-list. Thanks, ED From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 21 21:10:22 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Epson Stylus Photo 950 Printer In-Reply-To: <2FA5A34D-AACA-4E0D-BDB4-60DF8D04888B@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <2FA5A34D-AACA-4E0D-BDB4-60DF8D04888B@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: hi, if you live near norwich, i took an epson into Jarrolds and they could not fix it and had it replaced free of charge, it was boarder regarding the warranty, maybe worth a phone call. On 21 Nov 2009, at 17:27, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > Our printer has died, but to someone who knows how to fix it, it might be worth having? > > Before it got sick, I had stocked up on a number of genuine Epson ink cartridges and have the following - all new and unopened: > 2 x T0331 - Black > 2 x T0333 - Magenta > 1 x T0336 - Lt. Magenta > 2 x T0332 Cyan > 1 x T0335 Lt. Cyan. > (These cost between ?12 and ?13 pounds each to buy from MX2 or 7dayshop) > > In addition I have one T0344 Yellow which I opened and installed in the printer when it died and replaced it with another new cartridge which is in the printer as I thought the first one was possibly faulty when the printer did not respond as normal. > > There are also the other 5 separate cartridges still in the printer which probably still have some ink in them? > > I also still have an unused roll of gloss paper in the roll paper holder together with the front sheet feeder, CD-R tray and Auto Cutter plus the installation CD and Setup booklet. > > Should anyone be interested in buying this as one lot at a reasonable price, please contact me off-list. > > Thanks, > > ED > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sat Nov 21 23:38:36 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:38:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Epson Stylus Photo 950 Printer In-Reply-To: References: <2FA5A34D-AACA-4E0D-BDB4-60DF8D04888B@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: <8C09A40C-2049-4FFA-9CE9-A517C42EF5BF@mendelsohn.me.uk> Thanks Kerin, Our printer is well out of guarantee, it is about 7 years old! I don't think even Jarrolds would wear that one. By the way we have a buyer for the inks. Ed On 21 Nov 2009, at 21:10, Kerin Westgate wrote: > hi, if you live near norwich, i took an epson into Jarrolds and they could not fix it and had it replaced free of charge, it was boarder regarding the warranty, maybe worth a phone call. > > > From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 09:33:33 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:33:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] internet speed improvement In-Reply-To: <4B072731.4030003@stackyard.org> References: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> <4B072731.4030003@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <2F87C786-A799-4B34-B6FC-43B09D91EA56@virgin.net> Ken, downloads have become painfully slow on virgin.net. I have just checked and get an estimated speed of 128 kbps. Does that sound as much as I can hope for? postcode NR24 2AA From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Nov 22 10:55:40 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:55:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] internet speed improvement In-Reply-To: <2F87C786-A799-4B34-B6FC-43B09D91EA56@virgin.net> References: <989DBDF7-77E7-4CCF-AC63-84C16DC3E568@waitrose.com> <4B072731.4030003@stackyard.org> <2F87C786-A799-4B34-B6FC-43B09D91EA56@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4B0918AC.7020000@stackyard.org> Hi Nathan, No, that speed is ridiculous. You either have a line or wiring problem or it's time to get another ISP. You are about 3.5Km from the Holt exchange so you should be getting a connection speed of somewhere around 3Mbps, give or take a Mbps. You need to check your connection speed and the downlink signal-to-noise margin which your router will know. What make/model is it? If your connection speed is fine, then it is a Virgin problem and you can join the ranks of Virgin users who have similar problems. Ask them to do something about the situation or give you a MAC (migration authorization code) and move to another ISP. If your connection speed is also showing about 128Kbps, then you either have a house wiring problem or the line to the exchange is ailing. How many telephone sockets are in your house? Ken Nathan Crosby wrote: > > > Ken, downloads have become painfully slow on virgin.net. > I have just checked and get an estimated speed of 128 kbps. > Does that sound as much as I can hope for? > > postcode NR24 2AA > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 14:02:47 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:02:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] `slideshow Message-ID: <8B5BEFCB-89D8-4E18-ACE2-EEA169B72D00@virgin.net> In the finder on my macbook pro I can select a load of pictures and under "Action" I can do a slide show. How do I do this on my Macpro as the slideshow option is not there Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From band1 at mac.com Sun Nov 22 14:08:45 2009 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] `slideshow In-Reply-To: <8B5BEFCB-89D8-4E18-ACE2-EEA169B72D00@virgin.net> References: <8B5BEFCB-89D8-4E18-ACE2-EEA169B72D00@virgin.net> Message-ID: <38E5C327-BAB7-456C-BEFD-09EB806E7D5F@mac.com> Creating an instant slideshow You can create an instant slideshow using the Quick Look feature. To create a slideshow: In the Finder, select the images you want to make into a slideshow. Click the Quick Look (eye) button, or press the Space bar. A Quick Look window opens with the first image displayed. Use the buttons along the bottom to move from slide to slide or switch to full screen view. You can also use the iPhoto application to create slideshows. With iPhoto, you can easily add professional video effects and music to your show. David On 22 Nov 2009, at 14:02, Martin Fry wrote: > In the finder on my macbook pro I can select a load of pictures and > under "Action" I can do a slide show. > > How do I do this on my Macpro as the slideshow option is not there > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 16:16:44 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:16:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video Message-ID: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! Is there anything built into a mac that allows me to edit it ready to burn to DVD? Martin Martin Fry www.martinfryphotography.com From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 16:25:27 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:25:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> Message-ID: yes Martin, It depends how long you want to spend editing it. This simplest method iDVD - included in Mac OSx Ken On 22 Nov 2009, at 04:16 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! > > Is there anything built into a mac that allows me to edit it ready to > burn to DVD? > > Martin > > Martin Fry > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 22 16:38:57 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:38:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> Message-ID: Yes - iMovie, and then iDVD. But I have little experience with either - hopefully others will be along shortly with helpful hints. regards, Paul PS Congratulations! On 22 Nov 2009, at 16:16, Martin Fry wrote: > We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! > > Is there anything built into a mac that allows me to edit it ready to > burn to DVD? From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 16:59:16 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:59:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> Message-ID: <91EBD8B1-8A75-4D23-9DA5-96DECFB02DD7@virgin.net> iMovie enables you to cut and move scenes or 'clips'. You can also add titles, music and voice-over. Ken On 22 Nov 2009, at 04:38 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: > Yes - iMovie, and then iDVD. > > But I have little experience with either - hopefully others will be > along shortly with helpful hints. > > regards, > > Paul > > PS Congratulations! > > > On 22 Nov 2009, at 16:16, Martin Fry wrote: > >> We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! >> >> Is there anything built into a mac that allows me to edit it ready to >> burn to DVD? > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sun Nov 22 17:13:09 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:13:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> Message-ID: May or may not be relevant, but my experiences may help explain some oddities you could encounter .... I have a simple Sony Mini DV jobbie which connects via mini Firewire 400, and initially it was fine with iMovie HD, but this year suddenly decided it 'couldn't find the camera' By this time I had also added iLife 09, and it could find and rewind the camera, but downright refused to download the movie. After much frustration, I bought a new, gold plated cable, which made no difference whatsoever, but after days of Googling and trawling forums came across a suggestion that I should try with every other peripheral disconnected. It worked first time, and I was able to transfer the data and edit happily in either the 08 or 09 versions. During this period I had also tried iDVD, but that has crashed on launch since the day my iMac was delivered ..... No idea why, and as I've little need for it, have never bothered to find out. Hopefully, all will work for you first time, but if not, persevere! Robbie On 22 Nov 2009, at 16:38, Paul Durrant wrote: Yes - iMovie, and then iDVD. But I have little experience with either - hopefully others will be along shortly with helpful hints. regards, Paul PS Congratulations! On 22 Nov 2009, at 16:16, Martin Fry wrote: > We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! > > Is there anything built into a mac that allows me to edit it ready to > burn to DVD? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Nov 22 17:41:43 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:41:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: <91EBD8B1-8A75-4D23-9DA5-96DECFB02DD7@virgin.net> References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> <91EBD8B1-8A75-4D23-9DA5-96DECFB02DD7@virgin.net> Message-ID: <90745514-8D19-4653-8D60-7CB46B232158@virgin.net> Many thanks to all! Martin > iMovie enables you to cut and move scenes or 'clips'. You can also add > titles, music and voice-over. > > Ken > >> Yes - iMovie, and then iDVD. >> >> But I have little experience with either - hopefully others will be >> along shortly with helpful hints. >> >> Paul >> >> PS Congratulations! >> >>> We borrowed a video camera last week for my daughters wedding! From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sun Nov 22 21:58:26 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:58:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video In-Reply-To: References: <8CE427CA-A24A-41BB-801B-387CBEA69705@virgin.net> Message-ID: <6BC1DA52-D64E-48D6-AA43-CF861941E80E@mendelsohn.me.uk> Hi Martin, I assume your video camera has a Fire Wire or USB cable. You should be able to download the camcorder footage into iMovie. I'm not an expert but have been doing some editing using iMovie, if you want any help let me know. Regards, Ed On 22 Nov 2009, at 16:38, Paul Durrant wrote: > Yes - iMovie, and then iDVD. > > But I have little experience with either - hopefully others will be > along shortly with helpful hints. > > regards, > > Paul > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 23 08:22:47 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:22:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Local Contact Request - Wreningham References: Message-ID: <09C1FBF5-F782-4553-B3F3-8D84B3804794@durrant.co.uk> I've received a request for a local contact for a member who's unable to make the monthly meetings. I've attached an edited copy of his message. If anyone in the area would like to help out, please contact Robin directly, via email. Thanks, Paul Begin forwarded message: > From: ROBIN BURKITT > Date: 22 November 2009 16:18:44 GMT > To: > Subject: Local AppleMac contact > > I have been a Mac user for about 5 years now. [...] I have a health > problem, Parkinson?s disease, which places certain limitations, and > means I cannot normally make evening meetings. > > [...] > > I have an iBook G4 laptop and a MacBook laptop. I bought the latter > mainly because I wanted the improved performance that the MacBook > offered and partly because I had had a problem with the G4?s > [optical] disc drive > > [...] > > I would very much like to make contact with someone similar to > myself with whom I could share experiences and discuss problems. I > am retired after 35 years in the Royal Navy as an electrical > engineering specialist.Other interests: woodwork, photography, > office and home applications for computers, naval history. > > Regards, > > Robin Burkitt (Wreningham) > Tel: 01508-481746 From simonroyal at live.co.uk Mon Nov 23 11:20:48 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:20:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook For Sale Or Swap Message-ID: Hi I am putting my PowerBook up for sale and wondered if anyone would be interested in it or would like to swap it. Spec: 15" Titanium, G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB hard drive, SuperDrive. Battery is odd, it will last over an hour sometimes and then ten minutes at others. It is a fully working Mac, but has some cosmetic problems. The screen bezel was removed to replace the LCD and it has never really gone back on properly, the left hand hinge has snapped and is held together with a metal brace and the keyboard has no markings on it all the keys are blank. Apart from that the rest of the case is in good condition. The white rim is still in perfect condition and the plastic casing has no splits in it and the port hatch on the back is still in tact. The power supply is a genuine Apple one - although it is held together with tape - but it works fine and has the charging indication lights. I am looking to sell it, so if you are interested please contact me off list with an offer. Or if you have a small netbook like an MSI Wind, Advent 4211 or Asus Eee PC 1000 then I might be interested in a swap. I have been using this machine for about a year and apart from the odd blip it hasn't given me any grief. I know it might seem old to a lot of you, but it really is a capable machine. It is running Leopard at the moment and it flies along. Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Mon Nov 23 12:00:51 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:00:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Back In-Reply-To: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> References: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Hi Ken I'm Back! Got on to Virgin help line and they seemed puzzled and finally rang me back (10 brownie points) It turned out that the Router had lost my ID and password. Filled that in and everything appears to be back to normal. Thanks for your help. Nathan From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Mon Nov 23 12:11:39 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:11:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Back In-Reply-To: References: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4B0A7BFB.3090305@stackyard.org> Hi Nathan, Excellent! However, it doesn't explain what had happened. I suspect that they have changed your login credentials but that's just my suspicious mind. Routers don't usually lose the credentials unless they get a hard reset by holding a pen or paper clip in the hole in the back for 10 seconds. Had you done that at some point? You actually read me out an IP address which the router had acquired from Virgin which there wouldn't have been without there being some credentials in place, so something must have been happening. Anyway, glad you're back in action. Ken Nathan Crosby wrote: > Hi Ken > > I'm Back! > Got on to Virgin help line and they seemed puzzled and finally rang me back (10 brownie points) > It turned out that the Router had lost my ID and password. Filled that in and everything appears > to be back to normal. Thanks for your help. > > Nathan > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Mon Nov 23 12:15:50 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:15:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Back In-Reply-To: <4B0A7BFB.3090305@stackyard.org> References: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> <4B0A7BFB.3090305@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <8AF3AF38-BFE4-4904-B78B-EAA3BE8A4190@virgin.net> Guilty as charged M'lud. I though resetting would improve the speed. Doh. Nathan On 23 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Ken Hamer wrote: > . Routers don't usually lose the credentials unless they > get a hard reset by holding a pen or paper clip in the hole in the back > for 10 seconds. > > > Nathan Crosby wrote: >> Hi Ken >> >> I'm Back! >> Got on to Virgin help line and they seemed puzzled and finally rang me back (10 brownie points) >> It turned out that the Router had lost my ID and password. Filled that in and everything appears >> to be back to normal. Thanks for your help. >> >> Nathan >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Mon Nov 23 12:24:35 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:24:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Back In-Reply-To: <8AF3AF38-BFE4-4904-B78B-EAA3BE8A4190@virgin.net> References: <4B05CA6F.4000909@stackyard.org> <4B0A7BFB.3090305@stackyard.org> <8AF3AF38-BFE4-4904-B78B-EAA3BE8A4190@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4B0A7F03.6000201@stackyard.org> Ah! Never mind. Your are in good company, I can tell you. Nathan Crosby wrote: > Guilty as charged M'lud. I though resetting would improve the speed. Doh. > > Nathan > > > On 23 Nov 2009, at 12:11, Ken Hamer wrote: > > >> . Routers don't usually lose the credentials unless they >> get a hard reset by holding a pen or paper clip in the hole in the back >> for 10 seconds. >> >> >> Nathan Crosby wrote: >> >>> Hi Ken >>> >>> I'm Back! >>> Got on to Virgin help line and they seemed puzzled and finally rang me back (10 brownie points) >>> It turned out that the Router had lost my ID and password. Filled that in and everything appears >>> to be back to normal. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Nathan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Nov 23 23:36:34 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:36:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] windows on Mac? Message-ID: I know someone who has an alarm system set up with video cams to a windows laptop PC. It is very slow in its (waking?) functionality and in any case he wants to put Windows on his (intel) iMac so that he can have just one computer. I haven't explored windows on intel Macs but I would feel that if this is to work at all for him then it needs to be running ongoingly ? via Parallels or similar ? rather than booted into via Apple Bootcamp - (if that is its name). As far as I know he can simply partition his HD with a PC format (which one? ? what sort of size?) and then have a volume upon which he can install Windows. Any helpful offerings will be relayed. all the best Brian From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 07:03:11 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:03:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] windows on Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: you don't need to partition your drive if using parallels or vmware, it will create a disk image that contains the windows 'drive'. I use vmware, and this will create a disk image just big enough to fit windows on, it will increase in size if necessary, but you can set a size limit in the vmware preferences. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Brian Steere wrote: > I know someone who has an alarm system set up with video cams to a windows > laptop PC. > It is very slow in its (waking?) functionality and in any case he wants to > put Windows on his (intel) iMac so that he can have just one computer. > I haven't explored windows on intel Macs but I would feel that if this is to > work at all for him then it needs to be running ongoingly ? via Parallels or > similar ? rather than booted into via Apple Bootcamp - (if that is its > name). > > As far as I know he can simply partition his HD with a PC format (which one? > ? what sort of size?) and then have a volume upon which he can install > Windows. > Any helpful offerings will be relayed. > > all the best > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From swimwire at googlemail.com Tue Nov 24 16:21:05 2009 From: swimwire at googlemail.com (Jack Webb-Heller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:21:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWork 09 Message-ID: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> Hello folks, I see that iWork is listed as being ?69 on the online Apple Store in the UK. However I find it weird that the US store lists it as being $79 - which turns out to be ?48, 20 pounds cheaper than in the UK! I'm thinking I'd like to get it but am wondering if I could find it in the UK (whether online or off) cheaper, preferably as cheap as possible but still from a reputable source - not like an eBay transaction since I'm thinking this could be a possible X-Mas pressie... if we can find it cheap enough since ?70 is far too much. Jack Jack Webb-Heller personal: jack at jackwebbheller.com general: swimwire at googlemail.com http://jackwebbheller.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 24 16:46:54 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:46:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWork 09 In-Reply-To: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> References: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Don't forget VAT. US prices don't include US sales taxes. $79 = ?47.69 at today's rate, + VAT = ?54.84 Of course, it might be better to persuade others in your family to chip in and get the family pack which allows you to have five users. It's ?85 retail. The best prices I could find were specialitysoftware. But they look dodgy to me. They haven't been around long and don't give a location. And their prices are too low. Amazon have it for ?57.44: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0014X2UAK/ and the family pack for ?74.49: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001AMGSNK/ regards, Paul On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:21, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello folks, > > I see that iWork is listed as being ?69 on the online Apple Store in > the UK. However I find it weird that the US store lists it as being > $79 - which turns out to be ?48, 20 pounds cheaper than in the UK! > > I'm thinking I'd like to get it but am wondering if I could find it > in the UK (whether online or off) cheaper, preferably as cheap as > possible but still from a reputable source - not like an eBay > transaction since I'm thinking this could be a possible X-Mas > pressie... if we can find it cheap enough since ?70 is far too much. > > Jack > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack at jackwebbheller.com > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > http://jackwebbheller.com > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From rob at atvetsystems.com Tue Nov 24 16:58:04 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:58:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWork 09 In-Reply-To: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> References: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <6BF37DF9-C831-45D0-B736-25F9840C5D12@atvetsystems.com> Apple has a sale on Friday 27th November in which they might discount iWork '09. Bear in mind we may only be eight weeks away from iWork '10 which should cause the '09 prices to be dropped. Regards. Rob. On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:21, Jack Webb-Heller wrote: > Hello folks, > > I see that iWork is listed as being ?69 on the online Apple Store in the UK. However I find it weird that the US store lists it as being $79 - which turns out to be ?48, 20 pounds cheaper than in the UK! > > I'm thinking I'd like to get it but am wondering if I could find it in the UK (whether online or off) cheaper, preferably as cheap as possible but still from a reputable source - not like an eBay transaction since I'm thinking this could be a possible X-Mas pressie... if we can find it cheap enough since ?70 is far too much. > > Jack > > Jack Webb-Heller > personal: jack at jackwebbheller.com > general: swimwire at googlemail.com > http://jackwebbheller.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 24 17:00:18 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:00:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iWork 09 In-Reply-To: References: <29F036FC-9C35-41ED-BA16-17307D34750A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <5A9EB294-8950-4F7F-9F50-D4C2E62CFACC@durrant.co.uk> On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:46, Paul Durrant wrote: > The best prices I could find were specialitysoftware. But they look > dodgy to me. They haven't been around long and don't give a location. > And their prices are too low. Whoops - I didn't mean specialitysoftware, who seem to be a perfectly OK bespoke software house in Derby, with a web address since 2000. I meant specialtysoftware.co.uk, which was registered in January 2009 by someone in Boston, MA, USA. So I'm guessing that they're shipping or grey importing from the states. Caveat Emptor. regards, Paul From alanbarber at mac.com Wed Nov 25 08:02:19 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:02:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] testing Message-ID: Regards Alan From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Wed Nov 25 08:53:51 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:53:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan, I received the words 'testing' and regards, is that OK! Ken On 25 Nov 2009, at 08:02 AM, Alan Barber wrote: > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 25 08:55:55 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] testing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86219.43435.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> New job as a roady? Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Wed, 25/11/09, Alan Barber wrote: From: Alan Barber Subject: [NMUG] testing To: "nmugs Group list" Date: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 8:02 Regards Alan ??? ??? _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From simonroyal at live.co.uk Wed Nov 25 10:15:57 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:15:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless G & WPA Message-ID: Hi. Forgive me if I am wrong in thinking, but can all 802.11g capable machines or wireless cards handle WPA? Been looking at some PCI card on eBay and although they are 11g, they only mention 64/128 WEP. Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Nov 25 10:46:22 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:46:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless G & WPA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0D0AFE.3030400@stackyard.org> Hi Simon, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > Forgive me if I am wrong in thinking, but can all 802.11g capable machines or wireless cards handle WPA? > No. Many older ones can only do WEP. It's hard to say which ones can do WPA without make/model number. > Been looking at some PCI card on eBay and although they are 11g, they only mention 64/128 WEP. > Again, need make/model/version to be able to check. Ken From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 25 15:35:43 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Pietrzak Youngs) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:35:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] US pricing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 25 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] iWork 09 > > > Don't forget VAT. US prices don't include US sales taxes. $79 = ?47.69 > at today's rate, + VAT = ?54.84 Not generally true. Online prices in the US are tax-paid UNLESS the customer resides in a State in which the supplier has a physical address. So buying from a California-based supplier and shipping to a California address attracts California sales tax of 8.25%, but buying from the same supplier and shipping to Nevada doesn't (assuming he doesn't have an office in Nevada). Generally orders from outside the US do not attract any tax so the price you see is the price you pay (+ shipping) A. Pedant Esq. From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 25 15:51:06 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:51:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] US pricing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 25 Nov 2009, at 15:35, Stefan Pietrzak Youngs wrote: > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] iWork 09 >> >> >> Don't forget VAT. US prices don't include US sales taxes. $79 = ? >> 47.69 >> at today's rate, + VAT = ?54.84 > > Not generally true. Online prices in the US are tax-paid UNLESS the > customer resides in a State in which the supplier has a physical > address. So buying from a California-based supplier and shipping to > a California address attracts California sales tax of 8.25%, but > buying from the same supplier and shipping to Nevada doesn't > (assuming he doesn't have an office in Nevada). > > Generally orders from outside the US do not attract any tax so the > price you see is the price you pay (+ shipping) Pedantic posts should strive to be completely accurate. It IS generally true that US prices shown online (& for that matter, in shops) don't include US sales taxes. You are right that inter-state sales don't need to include sales tax at point of sale, but what you fail to mention is that the purchaser is supposed to declare the purchase on their home state tax return, and pay their home state sales tax on on-line purchases. But when comparing UK and US prices, it IS important to take account of the VAT included in UK prices to make a reasonable comparison. regards, Paul From rob at atvetsystems.com Wed Nov 25 16:32:07 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:32:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] US pricing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you bought an item from the US Apple Store you could get away with the local sales tax however I believe that the UK Customs and Excise would add VAT and an import fee when the item arrives in the UK. Regards, Rob. On 25 Nov 2009, at 15:35, Stefan Pietrzak Youngs wrote: > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] iWork 09 >> >> >> Don't forget VAT. US prices don't include US sales taxes. $79 = ?47.69 >> at today's rate, + VAT = ?54.84 > > Not generally true. Online prices in the US are tax-paid UNLESS the customer resides in a State in which the supplier has a physical address. So buying from a California-based supplier and shipping to a California address attracts California sales tax of 8.25%, but buying from the same supplier and shipping to Nevada doesn't (assuming he doesn't have an office in Nevada). > > Generally orders from outside the US do not attract any tax so the price you see is the price you pay (+ shipping) > > A. Pedant Esq. From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Wed Nov 25 17:00:18 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:00:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures Message-ID: I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 25 17:33:39 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:33:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pluscom do a SATA/IDE to USB/Firewire 400 3.5" enclosure. You can find it at various places. I've bought Pluscom stuff from eTradehouse.com in the past. They have it for ?19.19 + postage http://www.etradehouse.com/ Look at the 3.5" enclosures, and search for firewire. It's a bit crude, but it does the job, and works with SATA and IDE. If you want it just for IDE there's slightly cheaper version, as the SATA ability is provided by a SATA/IDE converter board. regards, Paul On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:00, Steven Jefferson wrote: > I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a > 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. > > Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking > for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 25 17:33:57 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:33:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5212B315-0353-4C87-B6CB-227117DB7ED8@f2s.com> Maplins aren't cheap! I have a couple of Pluscom - very inexpensive, and do the job. Can't for the life of me remember the name of the mob I bought them from, but I found this one used ...... http://tinyurl.com/yfnjm84 Robbie On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:00, Steven Jefferson wrote: I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Wed Nov 25 17:37:32 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:37:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just remembered! PC Tradestore http://tinyurl.com/63ecan ?14.99 Maplins aren't cheap! I have a couple of Pluscom - very inexpensive, and do the job. Can't for the life of me remember the name of the mob I bought them from, but I found this one used ...... http://tinyurl.com/yfnjm84 Robbie On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:00, Steven Jefferson wrote: I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Wed Nov 25 18:37:02 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try http://www.misco.co.uk and look for an Integral SATA hard drive caddy (they have USB, Firewire & ESATA interfaces). Then search for SATA hard drive. You should get quite a good deal and a stylish ext drive. Cheers Simon Bainbridge On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:00, Steven Jefferson wrote: > I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a > 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. > > Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking > for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Wed Nov 25 20:03:20 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:03:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reasonably priced SATA (and IDE) HDD enclosures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try novatech.co.uk they are Reading based company http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/HardDrives-External/ Cheers Kerin On 25 Nov 2009, at 18:37, Gmail wrote: > Try http://www.misco.co.uk and look for an Integral SATA hard drive > caddy (they have USB, Firewire & ESATA interfaces). Then search for > SATA hard drive. > > You should get quite a good deal and a stylish ext drive. > > Cheers > > Simon Bainbridge > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:00, Steven Jefferson > wrote: > >> I was looking in Maplin's today at their HDD enclosures as I have a >> 250 gig HDD and was a bit surprised at the cost - ?40 & upwards. >> >> Does anyone have a supplier who can do better prices. Not looking >> for any thing fancy, but if they have firewire so much the better. >> >> Steven Jefferson >> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Wed Nov 25 21:42:49 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:42:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing Message-ID: Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. Please help. Min From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 25 21:54:15 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:54:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52746EB9-41C8-4493-931D-241FA74AD7A2@durrant.co.uk> The Screen Sharing application is in /System/Library/CoreServices and is called "Screen Sharing.app" Normally it's launched for you when you click on "share screen" after selecting a machine in the "Shared" area of a Finder window. regards, Paul On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: > Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP > and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the > iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open > screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon > on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I > can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, > utilities or anywhere else. > > Please help. From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 25 22:01:44 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:01:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> I can only give a bit of negative help (excuse the contradiction). The few times I've halfheartedly tried to use Screen Sharing between Macs, I have confused both myself and the people I've been trying to connect with to share screens. I sometimes wonder if there is some ergonomic or logical flaw with Mac screen sharing. It has been reported that Mac screen sharing was flaky in the past, but it may have improved recently - I don't have any recent experience. On the other hand, on the recommendation of others, I have given quite a few successful remote tutoring sessions using LogMeIn for remote desktop access and control: www.logmein.com Richard. On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: > Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. > > Please help. > > > Min > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From michelehurst at mac.com Wed Nov 25 22:07:40 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv Message-ID: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help Michele x Sent from Michele's iPhone From minkennison at mac.com Wed Nov 25 22:09:33 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:09:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> References: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> Message-ID: <7C8C0192-4DFC-49B2-956C-4268A8486417@mac.com> Thank you to both Paul and Richard. I will let you know how we get on as we continue to try and share Min On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:0125 Nov 2009, Richard Nevill wrote: > I can only give a bit of negative help (excuse the contradiction). > > The few times I've halfheartedly tried to use Screen Sharing between Macs, I have confused both myself and the people I've been trying to connect with to share screens. > > I sometimes wonder if there is some ergonomic or logical flaw with Mac screen sharing. It has been reported that Mac screen sharing was flaky in the past, but it may have improved recently - I don't have any recent experience. > > On the other hand, on the recommendation of others, I have given quite a few successful remote tutoring sessions using LogMeIn for remote desktop access and control: www.logmein.com > > > Richard. > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: > >> Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. >> >> Please help. >> >> >> Min >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Wed Nov 25 22:15:10 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:15:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> Message-ID: <78A75891-4396-4488-BB16-7CB51799DEB9@virgin.net> I was just beginning to enjoy on my iPod touch when I too discovered (tonight) that Apple had somehow 'blocked' it's use! Ken Arnoldi On 25 Nov 2009, at 10:07 PM, Michele Hurst wrote: > > Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by > adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help > Michele x > Sent from Michele's iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Wed Nov 25 22:19:52 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:19:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: <7C8C0192-4DFC-49B2-956C-4268A8486417@mac.com> References: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> <7C8C0192-4DFC-49B2-956C-4268A8486417@mac.com> Message-ID: <18905606-8A96-4DF9-9047-5C1E1FEF62B3@zen.co.uk> Min, To do screen sharing on a local network set up sharing in system prefs on both macs to allow screen sharing, file sharing, scanner sharing, printer sharing and CD/DVD sharing. Make sure you are BOTH on the SAME network, and that you have a finder window set up to show the sidebar and the items under sidebar in finder prefs are enabled. You should then see the other Mac in the Shared section of side bar. Highlighting that will give "connect as" and "share screen" options select share screen and you will either gain entry or be asked for a user name and password for the user on the other mac (or to be allowed guest access) HTH Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:09, Min Kennison wrote: > Thank you to both Paul and Richard. I will let you know how we get on as we continue to try and share > > Min > On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:0125 Nov 2009, Richard Nevill wrote: > >> I can only give a bit of negative help (excuse the contradiction). >> >> The few times I've halfheartedly tried to use Screen Sharing between Macs, I have confused both myself and the people I've been trying to connect with to share screens. >> >> I sometimes wonder if there is some ergonomic or logical flaw with Mac screen sharing. It has been reported that Mac screen sharing was flaky in the past, but it may have improved recently - I don't have any recent experience. >> >> On the other hand, on the recommendation of others, I have given quite a few successful remote tutoring sessions using LogMeIn for remote desktop access and control: www.logmein.com >> >> >> Richard. >> >> On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: >> >>> Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. >>> >>> Please help. >>> >>> >>> Min >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> Richard Nevill >> ricnev at mac.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 25 22:20:31 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:20:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> Message-ID: <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> I just tried it out and it worked. I used Safari on my iPhone and put in the address http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ - it went straight to the page with the buttons for the currently available channels - I clicked on the BBC1 button and hey presto! Richard. On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:07, Michele Hurst wrote: > > Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by > adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help > Michele x > Sent from Michele's iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Wed Nov 25 22:30:14 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:30:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> Message-ID: Well done Richard! Adobe Flash Player blame Apple for the app. not working as before. Ken Arnoldi On 25 Nov 2009, at 10:20 PM, Richard Nevill wrote: > I just tried it out and it worked. I used Safari on my iPhone and > put in the address http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ - it went straight > to the page with the buttons for the currently available channels - > I clicked on the BBC1 button and hey presto! > > Richard. > > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:07, Michele Hurst wrote: > >> >> Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by >> adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help >> Michele x >> Sent from Michele's iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mercer at gotadsl.co.uk Wed Nov 25 22:31:43 2009 From: mercer at gotadsl.co.uk (Valerie Mercer) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:31:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> Message-ID: <8F3E3132-98A1-41FE-BDEC-4895C37D0E66@gotadsl.co.uk> It won't work on my iPhone. Valerie On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:20, Richard Nevill wrote: I just tried it out and it worked. I used Safari on my iPhone and put in the address http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ - it went straight to the page with the buttons for the currently available channels - I clicked on the BBC1 button and hey presto! Richard. On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:07, Michele Hurst wrote: > > Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by > adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help > Michele x > Sent from Michele's iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Wed Nov 25 22:36:51 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:36:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> Message-ID: Just to add - there are some postings on the tvcatchup forums saying that both their server and the BBC's iPlayer have been having problems over the past couple of days. They also remind iPhone users that they need to use http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ and NOT http://www.iphone.tvcatchup.com/ (note the difference is the additional www in the one you shouldn't use). The one with www in it is for people who want to use the service using their (Adobe Flash capable) computer. Richard. On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:20, Richard Nevill wrote: > I just tried it out and it worked. I used Safari on my iPhone and put in the address http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ - it went straight to the page with the buttons for the currently available channels - I clicked on the BBC1 button and hey presto! > > Richard. > > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:07, Michele Hurst wrote: > >> >> Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by >> adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help >> Michele x >> Sent from Michele's iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From mercer at gotadsl.co.uk Wed Nov 25 22:40:09 2009 From: mercer at gotadsl.co.uk (Valerie Mercer) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:40:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone tv In-Reply-To: References: <0E5E0E21-E487-4220-AFE0-2B4E546961FD@mac.com> <7526261D-2CC5-4CA0-81BA-D8D9D013E527@mac.com> Message-ID: <691555F4-EE72-40C0-997C-A6CE1E4259EE@gotadsl.co.uk> Working perfectly when your instructions followed! Valerie On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:36, Richard Nevill wrote: Just to add - there are some postings on the tvcatchup forums saying that both their server and the BBC's iPlayer have been having problems over the past couple of days. They also remind iPhone users that they need to use http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ and NOT http://www.iphone.tvcatchup.com/ (note the difference is the additional www in the one you shouldn't use). The one with www in it is for people who want to use the service using their (Adobe Flash capable) computer. Richard. On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:20, Richard Nevill wrote: > I just tried it out and it worked. I used Safari on my iPhone and > put in the address http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/ - it went straight > to the page with the buttons for the currently available channels - > I clicked on the BBC1 button and hey presto! > > Richard. > > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:07, Michele Hurst wrote: > >> >> Well was great while it lasted!! Now web site been comandeered by >> adobe flash player when was working brilliantly . Help >> Michele x >> Sent from Michele's iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 25 23:15:28 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Pietrzak Youngs) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:15:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing Message-ID: <53EA4D8E-4F11-4F6C-A24C-1D58AAE3F4AA@gmail.com> On the Mac on which you wish to look at another Mac's screen, in the Finder menu, Under the Go menu, select Connect to Server At the next dialog select Browse The Mac you wish to connect to should appear as a Server on the network Double click it You will be offered the opportunity to Share Screen or Connect (as in file transfer). If you click Connect, you can Connect as a Guest and you will see the other Mac's public drop box If you know the other Mac's sign in details you can connect as a registered user in which case you can transfer files as you will If you select Screen Share you will see the other Mac's screen on your Mac From yahooist at anyisle.com Wed Nov 25 23:27:59 2009 From: yahooist at anyisle.com (Neil S.) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:27:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless G & WPA In-Reply-To: <4B0D0AFE.3030400@stackyard.org> References: <4B0D0AFE.3030400@stackyard.org> Message-ID: And then there's WPA2 which is a stronger algorithm still. I have recently bought a Netgear Wireless, Ethernet switch with built-in USB print server and am disappointed I didn't notice beforehand that it was only WEP & WPA capable and not WPA2, as is the rest of my setup. Regards... Neil -- Neil Stevens Sent from my ? iMac G5 On 25 Nov 2009, at 10:46, Ken Hamer wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Simon Royal wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Forgive me if I am wrong in thinking, but can all 802.11g capable >> machines or wireless cards handle WPA? >> > No. Many older ones can only do WEP. It's hard to say which ones can > do WPA without make/model number. >> Been looking at some PCI card on eBay and although they are 11g, >> they only mention 64/128 WEP. >> > Again, need make/model/version to be able to check. > > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Nov 25 23:36:53 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:36:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> Message-ID: I tried log me in and it didn't work a year ago for me - so I thought it flaky and unready for Mac - whereas screen sharing just works on my network - but I haven't tried it across the net. I'd like to remote support - but time is scarce and cant get into it just now - unless it just worked. all the best Brian Richard Nevill said recently: > I can only give a bit of negative help (excuse the contradiction). > > The few times I've halfheartedly tried to use Screen Sharing between Macs, I > have confused both myself and the people I've been trying to connect with to > share screens. > > I sometimes wonder if there is some ergonomic or logical flaw with Mac screen > sharing. It has been reported that Mac screen sharing was flaky in the past, > but it may have improved recently - I don't have any recent experience. > > On the other hand, on the recommendation of others, I have given quite a few > successful remote tutoring sessions using LogMeIn for remote desktop access > and control: www.logmein.com > > > Richard. > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: > >> Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the >> iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an >> icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not >> find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to >> open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in >> apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. >> >> Please help. >> >> >> Min >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From simonroyal at live.co.uk Wed Nov 25 23:48:12 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:48:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ripping From YouTube Message-ID: Hi. I have asked this question before and I can't remember the general outcome. Downloading videos from YouTube is it illegal or just immoral. I use legit websites like savevid.com and legal software to extract the audio, tweak if needed using Audacity and convert to MP3 using iTunes. Where in that jumbled mess does it get illegal or infringe copyright? Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ From minkennison at mac.com Thu Nov 26 07:31:24 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:31:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Sharing In-Reply-To: <18905606-8A96-4DF9-9047-5C1E1FEF62B3@zen.co.uk> References: <1007B45E-74B8-42CF-9539-3257B65129F5@mac.com> <7C8C0192-4DFC-49B2-956C-4268A8486417@mac.com> <18905606-8A96-4DF9-9047-5C1E1FEF62B3@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks to all who replied. The sharing is now working. Min On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:1925 Nov 2009, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Min, > > To do screen sharing on a local network set up sharing in system prefs on both macs to allow screen sharing, file sharing, scanner sharing, printer sharing and CD/DVD sharing. > > Make sure you are BOTH on the SAME network, and that you have a finder window set up to show the sidebar and the items under sidebar in finder prefs are enabled. You should then see the other Mac in the Shared section of side bar. Highlighting that will give "connect as" and "share screen" options select share screen and you will either gain entry or be asked for a user name and password for the user on the other mac (or to be allowed guest access) > > HTH > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:09, Min Kennison wrote: > >> Thank you to both Paul and Richard. I will let you know how we get on as we continue to try and share >> >> Min >> On 25 Nov 2009, at 22:0125 Nov 2009, Richard Nevill wrote: >> >>> I can only give a bit of negative help (excuse the contradiction). >>> >>> The few times I've halfheartedly tried to use Screen Sharing between Macs, I have confused both myself and the people I've been trying to connect with to share screens. >>> >>> I sometimes wonder if there is some ergonomic or logical flaw with Mac screen sharing. It has been reported that Mac screen sharing was flaky in the past, but it may have improved recently - I don't have any recent experience. >>> >>> On the other hand, on the recommendation of others, I have given quite a few successful remote tutoring sessions using LogMeIn for remote desktop access and control: www.logmein.com >>> >>> >>> Richard. >>> >>> On 25 Nov 2009, at 21:42, Min Kennison wrote: >>> >>>> Please can anyone help. Having set up screen sharing between a MBP and the iMac in the other room we have a strange anomaly. On the iMac there is an icon on the dock which will allow us to open screeen sharing but it will not find the laptop. There is no icon on the laptop which would enable me to open screen sharing and I can't find where to produce one from anywhere in apps, Library, utilities or anywhere else. >>>> >>>> Please help. >>>> >>>> >>>> Min >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> Richard Nevill >>> ricnev at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From michelehurst at mac.com Thu Nov 26 08:19:06 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:19:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] itv on iphone Message-ID: <2113CB8C-9A6A-4348-B34E-8EF95E2710B3@mac.com> Well it was great while it lasted!!!! The wonderful link posted on here to get tv streaming on iphone was great, then they changed it and now you have to log in and then meet the message DOWNLOAD FLASHPLAYER, which of course was the original problem. The joke is I can't even watch BBC on that now whereas of couorse iplayer works perfectly. Does anyone have any info or updates on this situation!?? Thanks Michele From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Nov 26 08:22:48 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:22:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] itv on iphone In-Reply-To: <2113CB8C-9A6A-4348-B34E-8EF95E2710B3@mac.com> References: <2113CB8C-9A6A-4348-B34E-8EF95E2710B3@mac.com> Message-ID: See Richard Neville's solution in yesterday's postings Ken Arnoldi On 26 Nov 2009, at 08:19 AM, Michele Hurst wrote: > Well it was great while it lasted!!!! The wonderful link posted on > here to get tv streaming on iphone was great, then they changed it and > now you have to log in and then meet the message DOWNLOAD > FLASHPLAYER, which of course was the original problem. The joke is I > can't even watch BBC on that now whereas of couorse iplayer works > perfectly. Does anyone have any info or updates on this situation!?? > Thanks > Michele > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Nov 26 08:37:07 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:37:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] syncing Message-ID: <05316E8E-71B4-435F-BBCF-DFB7E6A54A86@mac.com> I have mistakenly deleted a safari bookmark from my iphone touch, synched and have lost it in safari on the computer. I thought I was restoring it to the ipod. Anyone know where it is - in trash? cant find it - or if its possible to get it back. Regards Alan From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 26 09:01:04 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:01:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] syncing In-Reply-To: <05316E8E-71B4-435F-BBCF-DFB7E6A54A86@mac.com> References: <05316E8E-71B4-435F-BBCF-DFB7E6A54A86@mac.com> Message-ID: <9AFE3D57-14A3-4899-8E1E-351D60B0CB4B@durrant.co.uk> If you have had Time Machine running you should be able to get it back. Safari's bookmarks are stored in Bookmarks.plist in [home folder]/Library/Safari Go there and run TimeMachine, you should be able to get back the version from before doing the sync. regards, Paul On 26 Nov 2009, at 08:37, Alan Barber wrote: > I have mistakenly deleted a safari bookmark from my iphone touch, > synched and have lost > it in safari on the computer. I thought I was restoring it to the > ipod. > Anyone know where it is - in trash? cant find it - or if its possible > to get it back. From simonroyal at live.co.uk Thu Nov 26 11:17:54 2009 From: simonroyal at live.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:17:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help Wanted! Message-ID: Hi. I know this is totally off-topic, but desperate times call for desperate measures and I know you lot are a pretty forgiving bunch (I hope anyway). My father-in-law is a self employed plasterer, decorator, renovator and gardener. He is Norwich based, honest, reliable, very reasonably priced and very good at his profession. Things are a bit slow - to say the least - on the work front, so I am trying every way I can think of to drum up some additional business. So if anyone of you need anything done in their house or garden, please consider him or pass his details on to others who might. His name is Michael Nixon - trading as M&N Plasterers - and his number is 07752 529087. Once again, apologies for using the group for this post. Simon Royal --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: Simon-Royal _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Nov 26 12:18:50 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:18:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] syncing In-Reply-To: <9AFE3D57-14A3-4899-8E1E-351D60B0CB4B@durrant.co.uk> References: <05316E8E-71B4-435F-BBCF-DFB7E6A54A86@mac.com> <9AFE3D57-14A3-4899-8E1E-351D60B0CB4B@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Of course. Too early in the morning for the old brain. Regards Alan On 26 Nov 2009, at 09:01, Paul Durrant wrote: > If you have had Time Machine running you should be able to get it > back. > > Safari's bookmarks are stored in Bookmarks.plist in > > [home folder]/Library/Safari > > Go there and run TimeMachine, you should be able to get back the > version from before doing the sync. > > regards, > > Paul > > > On 26 Nov 2009, at 08:37, Alan Barber wrote: > >> I have mistakenly deleted a safari bookmark from my iphone touch, >> synched and have lost >> it in safari on the computer. I thought I was restoring it to the >> ipod. >> Anyone know where it is - in trash? cant find it - or if its possible >> to get it back. > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Thu Nov 26 12:46:40 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:46:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help Wanted! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon Gumtree would be a good place to advertise his services, if you haven't already. http://norwich.gumtree.com/norwich/2053_1.html Ruth On 26 Nov 2009, at 11:17, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I know this is totally off-topic, but desperate times call for > desperate measures and I know you lot are a pretty forgiving bunch > (I hope anyway). > > My father-in-law is a self employed plasterer, decorator, renovator > and gardener. He is Norwich based, honest, reliable, very > reasonably priced and very good at his profession. Things are a bit > slow - to say the least - on the work front, so I am trying every > way I can think of to drum up some additional business. > > So if anyone of you need anything done in their house or garden, > please consider him or pass his details on to others who might. His > name is Michael Nixon - trading as M&N Plasterers - and his number > is 07752 529087. > > Once again, apologies for using the group for this post. > > Simon Royal > > --- Catch me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal or Skype: > Simon-Royal > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily > access both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Nov 26 12:48:36 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:48:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] time machine Message-ID: <909F8BE7-2FF3-4392-BAED-8DC59D97B8D4@mac.com> Im obviously doing something wrong as my previous time machine backup Safari bookmarks are not being restored. I enter time machine. Go back to last back up I know the bookmarks were there. Go to applications click on Safari click restore. Enter admin password - things happen but the bookmark is still not there. Using Powerbook PPC on OX 10.5.8 Regards Alan From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Thu Nov 26 13:49:48 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:49:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch Message-ID: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Hi folks My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. Ruth From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Nov 26 15:03:02 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:03:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Improving movie Message-ID: <7A527681-975D-4E9F-A30B-D528DCAED6C0@themagic.me.uk> I have a dvd containing two 20 minute films that are not clear?one looks as if it was shot through a fog (although indoors). Is there any way to improve viewing quality? As Photoshop works magic on still pictures I wondered if there was anything for the moving picture? I think Premiere may be extinct which may have done it. Thanks. Anthony From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Nov 26 15:30:25 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:30:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] time machine Message-ID: Im obviously doing something wrong as my previous time machine backup Safari bookmarks are not being restored. I enter time machine. Go back to last back up I know the bookmarks were there. Go to applications click on Safari click restore. Enter admin password - things happen but the bookmark is still not there. Using Powerbook PPC on OX 10.5.8 Regards Alan From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 26 15:26:59 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:26:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <575392.68603.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> When you plug it into the mac, can the mac see it? Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, iPhone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Thu, 26/11/09, Ruth Murray wrote: From: Ruth Murray Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Thursday, 26 November, 2009, 13:49 Hi folks My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in? case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. Ruth _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 26 15:34:45 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:34:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Improving movie In-Reply-To: <7A527681-975D-4E9F-A30B-D528DCAED6C0@themagic.me.uk> References: <7A527681-975D-4E9F-A30B-D528DCAED6C0@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: There are some ways of tweaking video to get an impression of sharper, more vivid pictures, but it is really difficult to improve on bad original video. I don't know of any free or cheap ways of doing what you want on a Mac, but you might get some sort of enhanced viewing by using NewBlueFX plugins in FinalCut Pro or Final Cut Express. Not cheap though! On 26 Nov 2009, at 15:03, Anthony Brahams wrote: > I have a dvd containing two 20 minute films that are not clear?one > looks as if it was shot through a fog (although indoors). Is there any > way to improve viewing quality? > > As Photoshop works magic on still pictures I wondered if there was > anything for the moving picture? I think Premiere may be extinct which > may have done it. > > Thanks. > > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Thu Nov 26 16:28:10 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:28:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <8081E21D-11B5-4B0D-B2AD-0D0DF0F0ED1B@mac.com> This article gives some good background on where iPhone (iTouch?) apps are stored, and how you can move them around/reinstate them: http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2009/03/manage-your-iphone-apps-in-itunes.ars On 26 Nov 2009, at 13:49, Ruth Murray wrote: > Hi folks > > My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in > case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. > > Ruth > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 26 16:54:04 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:54:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] time machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've just tried it, an I suspect you're at the wrong folder. The bookmarks are stored in a file, Bookmarks.plist, stored in [home folder]/Library/Safari Quit Safari! In Finder Go/Home. Open The Library Folder Open the Safari folder that's in the Library folder. Open Time Machine. Go back to when the bookmark hadn't been deleted. Select the Bookmarks.plist file and click restore. When asked, Select "Replace" to replace the new Bookmarks file with the one you've just asked to be restored. Start Safari. Your bookmark should be back. regards, Paul On 26 Nov 2009, at 15:30, Alan Barber wrote: > Im obviously doing something wrong as my previous time machine backup > Safari bookmarks are not being restored. > I enter time machine. > Go back to last back up I know the bookmarks were there. > Go to applications > click on Safari > click restore. > Enter admin password - things happen but the bookmark is still not > there. > Using Powerbook PPC on OX 10.5.8 > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From jeremyknight at mac.com Thu Nov 26 17:49:46 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:49:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please Message-ID: Evening All, Do members have any suggestions for a good, easy to use and cheap genealogy proramme please.? must be for 10.5 intel jeremy From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 26 18:36:13 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:36:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know about Cheap, but I've found Reunion to be very good over the years. http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php regards, Paul On 26 Nov 2009, at 17:49, jeremy knight wrote: > Do members have any suggestions for a good, easy to use and cheap > genealogy proramme please.? > must be for 10.5 intel From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Fri Nov 27 00:30:46 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:30:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <8081E21D-11B5-4B0D-B2AD-0D0DF0F0ED1B@mac.com> References: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <8081E21D-11B5-4B0D-B2AD-0D0DF0F0ED1B@mac.com> Message-ID: <2C8EF7C3-1387-4BF5-A043-48220A12A26C@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Thank you Richard It seems, however to imply that although the apps themselves can be reinstated the contents there within can not. Ruth "Be aware that there is, at this time, no way to re-insert your data back into applications after you delete and restore it. You can recover the data for other uses, like looking at it from your desktop or archiving it, but Apple does not offer a restore data feature for applications that have been removed and later replaced." On 26 Nov 2009, at 16:28, Richard Nevill wrote: > This article gives some good background on where iPhone (iTouch?) > apps are stored, and how you can move them around/reinstate them: > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2009/03/manage-your-iphone-apps- > in-itunes.ars > > > On 26 Nov 2009, at 13:49, Ruth Murray wrote: > >> Hi folks >> >> My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in >> case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. >> >> Ruth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From alanbarber at mac.com Fri Nov 27 08:10:02 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:10:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] time machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Paul Worked a treat - still think there is an element of magic about time machine. This has to be one of the main selling points of Mac. Time machine not the magic. Regards Alan On 26 Nov 2009, at 16:54, Paul Durrant wrote: > I've just tried it, an I suspect you're at the wrong folder. > > The bookmarks are stored in a file, Bookmarks.plist, stored in > > [home folder]/Library/Safari > > Quit Safari! > In Finder Go/Home. > Open The Library Folder > Open the Safari folder that's in the Library folder. > Open Time Machine. Go back to when the bookmark hadn't been deleted. > Select the Bookmarks.plist file and click restore. > When asked, Select "Replace" to replace the new Bookmarks file with > the one you've just asked to be restored. > Start Safari. Your bookmark should be back. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 26 Nov 2009, at 15:30, Alan Barber wrote: > >> Im obviously doing something wrong as my previous time machine backup >> Safari bookmarks are not being restored. >> I enter time machine. >> Go back to last back up I know the bookmarks were there. >> Go to applications >> click on Safari >> click restore. >> Enter admin password - things happen but the bookmark is still not >> there. >> Using Powerbook PPC on OX 10.5.8 >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From richardivers at mac.com Fri Nov 27 08:10:29 2009 From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:10:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2904851E-0584-498B-B8E6-A8568D7BFAB0@mac.com> Hi Jeremy, I use GenesReunited.co.uk, there you can build your tree and insert all kinds of information. GenesReunited will let you know if information on your tree matches info on another tree on the site. When the match is made you can request to view the other person's tree. I have recently discovered three relatives in this way The cost for standard membership is ?10 for six months, to gain more in depth information credits can be bought. FamilySearch.org is a good place to find records, it is the Mormon site of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - holds a vast store of records. Hope this helps Regards Richard From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 27 09:05:57 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:05:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Photoshop Elements - on sale Message-ID: <4439D53E-0B9B-4AA0-9BCD-4CEB3608A94D@durrant.co.uk> Apple have Photoshop Elements on sale today only. ?48 including VAT and p&p. That's cheaper than I've seen it anywhere else, and is 26% off their usual price. regards, Paul From turrethouse at talktalk.net Fri Nov 27 11:33:58 2009 From: turrethouse at talktalk.net (hugh morgan) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:33:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Photoshop Elements - on sale In-Reply-To: <4439D53E-0B9B-4AA0-9BCD-4CEB3608A94D@durrant.co.uk> References: <4439D53E-0B9B-4AA0-9BCD-4CEB3608A94D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for that Paul - I was thinking of getting it anyway so ordered it this morning. (The "PhotoDeLuxe" version I have used for years needs Classic/OS9). Hugh >Apple have Photoshop Elements on sale today only. ?48 including VAT >and p&p. > >That's cheaper than I've seen it anywhere else, and is 26% off their >usual price. > >regards, > >Paul > >_______________________________________________ >Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 27 11:38:48 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:38:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I read your response concerning Genealogy App, thanks Paul, that was just what I too was looking for. It is laid out so well and easy to use. Brill !! On 26 Nov 2009, at 18:36, Paul Durrant wrote: found Reunion to be very good Richard Stewart dickse at mac.com From marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 27 12:08:51 2009 From: marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com (marilynjoycampbell) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:08:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: several months ago I asked for help about memory and a broken hinge on my G4 laptop. A gentleman called Alan (maybe Johnson) helped me enormously. Are you still out there and are you willing to let me have your number to talk about the upgrades you mentioned. I lost everything in my email a couple of months ago and have been sorting myself out since! Best wishes Marilyn campbell On 27 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at nmug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at nmug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at nmug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: time machine (Alan Barber) > 2. Re: genealogy proramme ideas please (Richard Ivers) > 3. Photoshop Elements - on sale (Paul Durrant) > 4. Re: Photoshop Elements - on sale (hugh morgan) > 5. Re: genealogy proramme ideas please (Richard Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:10:02 +0000 > From: Alan Barber > Subject: Re: [NMUG] time machine > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Thanks Paul > Worked a treat - still think there is an element of magic about time > machine. > This has to be one of the main selling points of Mac. > Time machine not the magic. > > Regards > > Alan > > > On 26 Nov 2009, at 16:54, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> I've just tried it, an I suspect you're at the wrong folder. >> >> The bookmarks are stored in a file, Bookmarks.plist, stored in >> >> [home folder]/Library/Safari >> >> Quit Safari! >> In Finder Go/Home. >> Open The Library Folder >> Open the Safari folder that's in the Library folder. >> Open Time Machine. Go back to when the bookmark hadn't been deleted. >> Select the Bookmarks.plist file and click restore. >> When asked, Select "Replace" to replace the new Bookmarks file with >> the one you've just asked to be restored. >> Start Safari. Your bookmark should be back. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 26 Nov 2009, at 15:30, Alan Barber wrote: >> >>> Im obviously doing something wrong as my previous time machine backup >>> Safari bookmarks are not being restored. >>> I enter time machine. >>> Go back to last back up I know the bookmarks were there. >>> Go to applications >>> click on Safari >>> click restore. >>> Enter admin password - things happen but the bookmark is still not >>> there. >>> Using Powerbook PPC on OX 10.5.8 >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:10:29 +0000 > From: Richard Ivers > Subject: Re: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2904851E-0584-498B-B8E6-A8568D7BFAB0 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Jeremy, I use GenesReunited.co.uk, there you can build your tree > and insert all kinds of information. GenesReunited will let you know > if information on your tree matches info on another tree on the site. > When the match is made you can request to view the other person's > tree. I have recently discovered three relatives in this way > The cost for standard membership is ?10 for six months, to gain more > in depth information credits can be bought. > > FamilySearch.org is a good place to find records, it is the Mormon > site of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - holds a vast > store of records. > Hope this helps > > Regards > Richard > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:05:57 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: [NMUG] Photoshop Elements - on sale > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <4439D53E-0B9B-4AA0-9BCD-4CEB3608A94D at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Apple have Photoshop Elements on sale today only. ?48 including VAT > and p&p. > > That's cheaper than I've seen it anywhere else, and is 26% off their > usual price. > > regards, > > Paul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:33:58 +0000 > From: hugh morgan > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Photoshop Elements - on sale > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" > > Thanks for that Paul - I was thinking of getting > it anyway so ordered it this morning. > (The "PhotoDeLuxe" version I have used for years needs Classic/OS9). > Hugh > >> Apple have Photoshop Elements on sale today only. ?48 including VAT >> and p&p. >> >> That's cheaper than I've seen it anywhere else, and is 26% off their >> usual price. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:38:48 +0000 > From: Richard Stewart > Subject: Re: [NMUG] genealogy proramme ideas please > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I read your response concerning Genealogy App, thanks Paul, that was > just what I too was looking for. It is laid out so well and easy to > use. Brill !! > On 26 Nov 2009, at 18:36, Paul Durrant wrote: > > found Reunion to be very good > > Richard Stewart > dickse at mac.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 65 > ************************************ > From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Fri Nov 27 13:00:37 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:00:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Macbook Pro - Message for Joe References: <9D2503C4-AAB2-45A4-8B66-32266787B142@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: Hi Joe, It seems this might be the only way I can get in touch with you as I have left telephone messages and sent you several emails. As you might not be receiving private emails I am sending you a copy through NMUG of part of the mail I sent to you yesterday. Look forward to hearing from you. Phyll Begin part of the forwarded message: > > I am concerned that we have not yet received the receipt you promised last week - also the installation disc you said had received and you were putting in the post. I left a message on your mobile yesterday. > > If there is a problem please let me know. Please get in contact without further delay. > > Phyll > > P.S. If posting is a problem, we will come and fetch these if you send us your new address. > > > From kj.westgate at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 27 23:07:55 2009 From: kj.westgate at ntlworld.com (Kerin Westgate) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:07:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Search Message-ID: <1FA2AA5B-3405-4EE5-987B-49ED718A6EEC@ntlworld.com> Hi, I have a Time Capsule which I back Photo's up to. How do you add a search criteria to Finder to include the photo's on my Time Capsule :) Regards Kerin From thegees at jennygee.f2s.com Sat Nov 28 12:08:49 2009 From: thegees at jennygee.f2s.com (Malcolm Gee) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:08:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! Message-ID: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> Hi All, I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor, they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not know about their existence!!! I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? Regards, Malcolm. From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 28 12:13:27 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:13:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Graphic Converter Message-ID: <5E4692C7-BB66-4E80-816B-33019419EA45@mac.com> Hi all, There have been some recent positive comments on here and at the meeting last Thursday about Graphic Converter. I've just Googled it to find that for the next two days it is on offer as part of this bundle: http://www.macgraphoto.com/f/5131114 I just couldn't resist this bargain - the whole bundle cost me around ?24! Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sat Nov 28 13:05:46 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:05:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! In-Reply-To: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> References: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: <30DD164E-A535-445A-8956-B5193937218A@zen.co.uk> Ah, but are they telling the truth? AFAIK each Apple Store only has one (1) Mac Pro on Display. I think its usually a 2.66 Quad Core that's hooked up to a Music Keyboard and 30" display. Everything else is iMac, MBP and MBs with I guess the low to middle end being in the majority. The rest is taken up with iPods, iPhones, software and selected accessories. The current Desktops are getting long in the tooth computer wise with new chips in the offing early next year? Its unlikely the Mac Pro production line(s) is still running and at a guess Apple are probably supplying from a small centralised stock. After all, they probably have a good idea of probable demand for a month or two and when the next model is due..... Also I imagine if it ain't stocked they probably do think its no longer made. Remember Apple only sold 3/4M Desktops last quarter most of which were iMacs...... whats a production run like number wise of the Pro? And for good measure, is this Apple's way of keeping the quality resellers going? Actually looked at a 17" MBP with antiglare screen compared to glossy. Very nice but so is the price! Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 28 Nov 2009, at 12:08, Malcolm Gee wrote: > Hi All, > > I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing > yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the > Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at > what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking > around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did > not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor, > they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about > the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were > somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that > the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no > longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these > so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing > their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what > Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my > friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully > Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's > resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the > point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the > whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not > know about their existence!!! > > I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst > in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? > > Regards, > > Malcolm. > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 28 13:15:07 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:15:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! In-Reply-To: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: <949448.41355.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I'm seeing a lot of anti Apple store / Byte are great posts on forums of late mmmm I wonder! Genius's don't give sales advice that would be down to the specialists. If Apple choose not to stock the product it not down to the staff! Norwich Computer Company Apple Mac, phone & PC Repairs http://www.apple-macs.eu --- On Sat, 28/11/09, Malcolm Gee wrote: From: Malcolm Gee Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Saturday, 28 November, 2009, 12:08 Hi All, I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing? yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the? Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at? what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking? around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did? not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor,? they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about? the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were? somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that? the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no? longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these? so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing? their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what? Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my? friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully? Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's? resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the? point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the? whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not? know about their existence!!! I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst? in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? Regards, Malcolm. _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at mac.com Sat Nov 28 14:02:06 2009 From: fowler.j at mac.com (Jonathan Fowler) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:02:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! In-Reply-To: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> References: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: I also have them available at PCW. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Nov 2009, at 12:08, Malcolm Gee wrote: > Hi All, > > I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing > yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the > Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at > what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking > around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did > not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor, > they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about > the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were > somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that > the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no > longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these > so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing > their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what > Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my > friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully > Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's > resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the > point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the > whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not > know about their existence!!! > > I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst > in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? > > Regards, > > Malcolm. > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sat Nov 28 14:19:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:19:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! In-Reply-To: <30DD164E-A535-445A-8956-B5193937218A@zen.co.uk> References: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> <30DD164E-A535-445A-8956-B5193937218A@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <123B4CF2-B013-4C25-B435-BC066B05AA0F@f2s.com> There are 4 flavours on offer in the refurb store at the moment ... http://tinyurl.com/macprorefurb Robbie On 28 Nov 2009, at 12:08, Malcolm Gee wrote: > Hi All, > > I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing > yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the > Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at > what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking > around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did > not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor, > they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about > the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were > somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that > the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no > longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these > so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing > their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what > Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my > friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully > Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's > resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the > point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the > whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not > know about their existence!!! > > I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst > in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? > > Regards, > > Malcolm. > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Sat Nov 28 14:23:02 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:23:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The 'Genius's' in Chapelfield strike again!!! In-Reply-To: References: <5E96047A-EFCF-4FB9-A2C7-7816D508429C@jennygee.f2s.com> Message-ID: <3453392F-EC4C-49AD-AF19-EC7A4D623C36@googlemail.com> You also have the Mac Mini's make great desktop computers. I have one that is linked to 20" Acer monitor. I suprised the Genius's did not offer you this option??? Simon Bainbridge On 28 Nov 2009, at 14:02, Jonathan Fowler wrote: > I also have them available at PCW. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28 Nov 2009, at 12:08, Malcolm Gee > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I was having a chat with a good friend and his wife about computing >> yesterday afternoon, when they mentioned that they went into the >> Apple Store in Chapelfield a couple of weeks ago, to take a look at >> what desktop tower computers were available from Apple. On looking >> around they could only find the latest iMac models, and as they did >> not like their shiny screen's and already had a suitable monitor, >> they asked a couple of the resident 'Genius's' for their advice about >> the availability of Apple Mac desktop tower models. They were >> somewhat taken aback and disappointed when they were informed that >> the Apple Store did not stock them due to the fact that they were no >> longer being made!!! You do have wonder what sort of training these >> so called 'Genius's' are receiving from Apple!!! It is not doing >> their business too much good, and I could not help but wonder what >> Steve Jobs would think about it all!!! Needless to say I pointed my >> friends in the direction of Bite Systems in Mountergate, so hopefully >> Apple will not loose a potential sale due to the ineptitude of it's >> resident 'Genius's' in Chapelfield. It makes you wonder what the >> point having an Apple Store is if it is obviously not stocking the >> whole range of range of the company's products, and the staff do not >> know about their existence!!! >> >> I wonder have any of you also received such misinformed advice whilst >> in the Apple Store, or is this an isolated incident? >> >> Regards, >> >> Malcolm. >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 28 14:41:42 2009 From: dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk (David Gudgeon) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:41:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store-Chapelfield Message-ID: <3429D9D9-FF28-4E98-AB45-3A1C1A52EC83@tiscali.co.uk> I hope we are not finding lots of faults with our new Apple Store. Rather than complaining about what isn't available, has anyone actually had a word with them about it? Could we not get some advantages from their facility? Do they know of the existence of NMUG, for instance? Could we persuade them to come and talk to us on any of their particular expertise? It is surely to our advantage to have as many Mac sellers, repair facilities and sources of help and information, locally, as possible. Talking of which, I noticed on the John Lewis website, that they are showing a Apple Mac Pro 2.66GHz SuperDrive Desktop Computer, for next day delivery to the store, assuming they don't already have one From dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 28 14:53:43 2009 From: dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk (David Gudgeon) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:53:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store Message-ID: In case you are all wondering, I hadn't finished my diatribe...just pressed the wrong button. Getting old I guess! But I suppose I said most of what I wanted to. The only other thing that puzzled me was what the devil does AFAIK mean? Acronyms! Unless you are in the know they're just a bunch of letters and I guess, with these particular ones, I'm not in the know. Dave Gudgeon dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 28 15:02:27 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:02:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store-Chapelfield In-Reply-To: <3429D9D9-FF28-4E98-AB45-3A1C1A52EC83@tiscali.co.uk> References: <3429D9D9-FF28-4E98-AB45-3A1C1A52EC83@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: On 28 Nov 2009, at 14:41, David Gudgeon wrote: > Could we not get some advantages from their facility? I have suggested this to them > Do they know of the existence of NMUG, for instance? Yes they do - see http://server.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2009-November/023108.html And I haven't been bowled over in the rush of people coming up with suggestions yet!! > Could we persuade them to come and talk to us on any of their particular expertise? Possibly. They want us to say what we want to do. Can all members consider what, specifically, they would like from an NMUG/Apple Store collaboration, and let me know. I can then go back to my contact with concrete suggestions and set arrangements in motion. Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 28 15:05:15 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:05:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C4E6B71-ADA4-492F-BB07-65D161A1E9EE@mac.com> As Far As I Know, it means as far as I know. http://www.acronymfinder.com/ On 28 Nov 2009, at 14:53, David Gudgeon wrote: > In case you are all wondering, I hadn't finished my diatribe...just pressed the wrong button. Getting old I guess! But I suppose I said most of what I wanted to. The only other thing that puzzled me was what the devil does AFAIK mean? Acronyms! Unless you are in the know they're just a bunch of letters and I guess, with these particular ones, I'm not in the know. > > Dave Gudgeon > dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From penguinsplj at me.com Sat Nov 28 15:24:28 2009 From: penguinsplj at me.com (Paul Chapman) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:24:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store-Chapelfield In-Reply-To: References: <3429D9D9-FF28-4E98-AB45-3A1C1A52EC83@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <0EC220AE-0888-41D0-8BF4-292A6A5CB049@me.com> On Nov 28, 2009, at 15:02, Richard Nevill wrote: > And I haven't been bowled over in the rush of people coming up with > suggestions yet!! > >> Could we persuade them to come and talk to us on any of their >> particular expertise? > > Possibly. They want us to say what we want to do. As mentioned at the meeting on Thursday, I have now been in contact with some other MUGs around the country, specifically those near an Apple Store. The Yorkshire MUG based in Sheffield said: > No, nothing at all, but perhaps that's because we haven't exactly > pursued the idea. > We *did* used to have a couple of AppleStore employees as > complementary members, but they left the AppleStore and moved away. > The funny thing about User Groups is that they tend to help members > keep their old machines working for longer than Apple would like us > to do! > I would be very interested to hear from you, should you manage to > get any relationship going with your new AppleStore, so that I might > be prompted to do likewise. The London MUG said: > I suspect the support given by Apple Stores does depend upon the > store. Our main store is that in London's Regent Street. The are > helpful to the extent that they allow LMUG to use their main > lecture theatre for special functions but the audience is not just > those who are interested, those profiting from the free WiFi are > also present. > There are no discounts or special offers for us. We tried to have a > flyer, listing UKMUGS, placed in the bag containing purchases of new > Macs or simply available within the store but without success. > I can recall that the store at Brent Cross arranged a special Sunday > morning session for MUG enthusiasts. It received the MUG members > two hours before opening time and gave them full range of store as > well as presentations on Aperture and Motion. > I believe that the Kingston store has also arranged events for MUGs. The Manchester MUG said: > We have had a few MMUG meetings at the AppleStore in Solihull. They > usually > coincide with new products and the AppleStore has been very kind to > lay on > talks as well ie the last one we had was excellent and all about Mac > OSX > Server and the new mac mini server. My thought is that they might do some promotion of new product if the group is big enough but they already do regular workshops so might not be so enthusiastic about doing something special for a small group. Paul C From david.maskell at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 28 15:33:26 2009 From: david.maskell at ntlworld.com (David Maskell) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:33:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple store and Geniuses Message-ID: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> Hi, I love our new apple store, and have been in it quite a lot! I purchased in July a new MBP, from PC world and it was an amazing improvement on my imac G5 17'" Isight A month or so ago, dead pixels were found on my screen!! arrrgh goddamn it... I took it straight to chapelfield, and Sherv (the mac genius there) was brilliant and took my laptop away. unfortunately the new part kept being delayed, and he rang me to say collect my macbook if I need it, and he will call me when the part is in. 24 hours later, the part arrives, 5 hours later the part is fitted tested and I have a brand new top half to my laptop! 1 week later, to my dismay, dust was gathering behind the glass!!! I did not think this was good, googled it, and found that it is not the norm. So back to Sherv once more, who took one look at it, dusted the screen, had another look, and immediately said that he would not be happy with it himself, even though it was only a couple of specs. He said he will check out the back if any of the extra screens he ordered in (thanks to the delay on mine!) are available, if so he will fit it that evening for me. He had one. It was around 5pm Saturday so I did not expect him to fix it on the spot. 11:30am Sunday my MBP was ready for collection. Because of the nature of the screens, the whole top half gets replaced. The quality is perfect, there are no dead pixels, there is no dust, and the screen seems to be a lot sharper and colorful than I remember...but that might be due to calibration, there are no marks and is as new! Sherv, I think is a brilliant guy, he knows me by name, and uses it when he sees me he, is very friendly and always ready to listen. Everyone I have spoken to in the store is great and always ready to chat. One of the Concierges came and asked if I needed help ( I was looking at various things and was playing with a macbook pro) I mentioned I recently got one of these, and how it compared to my G5, and she instantly started chatting, asking how it was going, what did I use it for, how was it working for me etc. I fI ever needed help on garageband etc In my line of work, I know customer service, satisfaction is important, and because of the service and friendliness I have received every time I go into the store, I will keep going in! (I am eyeing up one of those new mice!) So, overall, i have not had any bad experiences in the store, or when being looked after. (I was a little upset when I spotted the pixels, but apple fixed it! and made me happy again!) I love the geniuses, and the great down to earth staff who are always ready to chat and explain anything I don't understand. I keep applying for jobs there but I never hear anything!!! grrr David Maskell From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Sat Nov 28 16:10:28 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:10:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11C0AA2F-B02B-4423-9EB3-F90D75B7B445@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> A guess AFAIK = as far as I know? Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 28 Nov 2009, at 14:53, David Gudgeon wrote: > In case you are all wondering, I hadn't finished my diatribe...just > pressed the wrong button. Getting old I guess! But I suppose I said > most of what I wanted to. The only other thing that puzzled me was > what the devil does AFAIK mean? Acronyms! Unless you are in the know > they're just a bunch of letters and I guess, with these particular > ones, I'm not in the know. > > Dave Gudgeon > dg.gudgeon at tiscali.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Sat Nov 28 17:45:29 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:45:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple store and Geniuses In-Reply-To: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> References: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <37235C2D-EE71-416E-88A4-DF72893C3D71@googlemail.com> I love the Apple Store! It's great and the staff are very helpful if not totally knowledgable on Apple technology. But they will get better with time and experiance. Just to confirm Apple do have 3 types of desktop computers - - Mac Mini (Is an entry level Mac that is perfect for a Windows to Mac switcher that already has a decent monitor). - iMac Simon Bainbridge On 28 Nov 2009, at 15:33, David Maskell wrote: > Hi, > I love our new apple store, and have been in it quite a lot! > > I purchased in July a new MBP, from PC world and it was an amazing > improvement on my imac G5 17'" Isight > > A month or so ago, dead pixels were found on my screen!! arrrgh > goddamn it... I took it straight to chapelfield, and Sherv (the mac > genius there) was brilliant > and took my laptop away. unfortunately the new part kept being > delayed, and he rang me to say collect my macbook if I need it, and he > will call me when the part is in. > > 24 hours later, the part arrives, 5 hours later the part is fitted > tested and I have a brand new top half to my laptop! > > 1 week later, to my dismay, dust was gathering behind the glass!!! I > did not think this was good, googled it, and found that it is not the > norm. So back to Sherv once more, who took > one look at it, dusted the screen, had another look, and immediately > said that he would not be happy with it himself, even though it was > only a couple of specs. He said he will check > out the back if any of the extra screens he ordered in (thanks to the > delay on mine!) are available, if so he will fit it that evening for > me. He had one. > > It was around 5pm Saturday so I did not expect him to fix it on the > spot. 11:30am Sunday my MBP was ready for collection. Because of the > nature of the screens, the whole top half gets replaced. > The quality is perfect, there are no dead pixels, there is no dust, > and the screen seems to be a lot sharper and colorful than I > remember...but that might be due to calibration, there are no marks > and > is as new! > > Sherv, I think is a brilliant guy, he knows me by name, and uses it > when he sees me he, is very friendly and always ready to listen. > Everyone I have spoken to in the store is great and always ready to > chat. > > One of the Concierges came and asked if I needed help ( I was looking > at various things and was playing with a macbook pro) I mentioned I > recently got one of these, and how it compared to my G5, and she > instantly > started chatting, asking how it was going, what did I use it for, how > was it working for me etc. I fI ever needed help on garageband etc > > In my line of work, I know customer service, satisfaction is > important, and because of the service and friendliness I have received > every time I go into the store, I will keep going in! (I am eyeing up > one of those new mice!) > > So, overall, i have not had any bad experiences in the store, or when > being looked after. (I was a little upset when I spotted the pixels, > but apple fixed it! and made me happy again!) I love the geniuses, and > the great down to earth staff > who are always ready to chat and explain anything I don't understand. > I keep applying for jobs there but I never hear anything!!! grrr > > > David Maskell > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 28 17:46:08 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:46:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] virgin Message-ID: <31A4F073-F1C1-4E2C-897F-BEB7DEF6809C@virgin.net> Was the problem of only getting mail on one mac ever resolved? No problem with my main Mac but very few messages coning to my laptop! regards Martin From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Sat Nov 28 17:54:18 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:54:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] virgin In-Reply-To: <31A4F073-F1C1-4E2C-897F-BEB7DEF6809C@virgin.net> References: <31A4F073-F1C1-4E2C-897F-BEB7DEF6809C@virgin.net> Message-ID: <0B7A2E93-B249-4CA5-A108-04C154376C66@virgin.net> No! I'm waiting until November is gone- after Virgin should have finished their 'improvements' then I shall contact them to see whether they intermittantly remove messages from the server and whether this could account for receiving them on only one Mac/PC Ken Arnoldi On 28 Nov 2009, at 05:46 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > Was the problem of only getting mail on one mac ever resolved? > > No problem with my main Mac but very few messages coning to my > laptop! > > regards > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sat Nov 28 18:01:20 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:01:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] virgin In-Reply-To: <0B7A2E93-B249-4CA5-A108-04C154376C66@virgin.net> References: <31A4F073-F1C1-4E2C-897F-BEB7DEF6809C@virgin.net> <0B7A2E93-B249-4CA5-A108-04C154376C66@virgin.net> Message-ID: <09C4E9A8-576E-441C-825B-8ABC1E7A2041@virgin.net> Thanks Ken > I'm waiting until November is gone- after Virgin should have finished > their 'improvements' then I shall contact them to see whether they > intermittantly remove messages from the server and whether this could > account for receiving them on only one Mac/PC > > Ken Arnoldi > > > On 28 Nov 2009, at 05:46 PM, Martin Fry > wrote: > >> Was the problem of only getting mail on one mac ever resolved? >> >> No problem with my main Mac but very few messages coning to my >> laptop! >> >> regards >> >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Sat Nov 28 18:03:09 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:03:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple store and Geniuses In-Reply-To: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> References: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: I love the Apple Store! It's great and the staff are very helpful if not totally knowledgable on Apple technology. But they will get better with time and experiance. Just to confirm Apple do have 3 types of desktop computers - - Mac Mini (Is an entry level Mac that is perfect for a Windows to Mac switcher that already has a decent monitor). - iMac (A fantastic all in one design that is great for use when you have limited desktop space. Also has everything needed to enjoy the whole Mac experiance.). - Mac Pro (This is a professional level machine only needed for people doing regular high quality video editing or sound engineering. Where extra expandability with video or sound cards is needed. Although this area is now getting blurred with the new high end iMacs getting very powerful with quad core processors, 27" LED screens and memory able to expand a whopping 16 GB.). Sorry for the part message before as I accidently hit the send button on my iPhone. Simon Bainbridge On 28 Nov 2009, at 15:33, David Maskell wrote: > Hi, > I love our new apple store, and have been in it quite a lot! > > I purchased in July a new MBP, from PC world and it was an amazing > improvement on my imac G5 17'" Isight > > A month or so ago, dead pixels were found on my screen!! arrrgh > goddamn it... I took it straight to chapelfield, and Sherv (the mac > genius there) was brilliant > and took my laptop away. unfortunately the new part kept being > delayed, and he rang me to say collect my macbook if I need it, and he > will call me when the part is in. > > 24 hours later, the part arrives, 5 hours later the part is fitted > tested and I have a brand new top half to my laptop! > > 1 week later, to my dismay, dust was gathering behind the glass!!! I > did not think this was good, googled it, and found that it is not the > norm. So back to Sherv once more, who took > one look at it, dusted the screen, had another look, and immediately > said that he would not be happy with it himself, even though it was > only a couple of specs. He said he will check > out the back if any of the extra screens he ordered in (thanks to the > delay on mine!) are available, if so he will fit it that evening for > me. He had one. > > It was around 5pm Saturday so I did not expect him to fix it on the > spot. 11:30am Sunday my MBP was ready for collection. Because of the > nature of the screens, the whole top half gets replaced. > The quality is perfect, there are no dead pixels, there is no dust, > and the screen seems to be a lot sharper and colorful than I > remember...but that might be due to calibration, there are no marks > and > is as new! > > Sherv, I think is a brilliant guy, he knows me by name, and uses it > when he sees me he, is very friendly and always ready to listen. > Everyone I have spoken to in the store is great and always ready to > chat. > > One of the Concierges came and asked if I needed help ( I was looking > at various things and was playing with a macbook pro) I mentioned I > recently got one of these, and how it compared to my G5, and she > instantly > started chatting, asking how it was going, what did I use it for, how > was it working for me etc. I fI ever needed help on garageband etc > > In my line of work, I know customer service, satisfaction is > important, and because of the service and friendliness I have received > every time I go into the store, I will keep going in! (I am eyeing up > one of those new mice!) > > So, overall, i have not had any bad experiences in the store, or when > being looked after. (I was a little upset when I spotted the pixels, > but apple fixed it! and made me happy again!) I love the geniuses, and > the great down to earth staff > who are always ready to chat and explain anything I don't understand. > I keep applying for jobs there but I never hear anything!!! grrr > > > David Maskell > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 28 18:09:26 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:09:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple store and Geniuses In-Reply-To: References: <923396AD-F521-44B2-9638-63104FAD002B@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: There are rumours that the Mac Pro may get 6 core Xeons next year to re-differentiate them from the new 27" i7 iMac: http://www.hardmac.com/news/2009/11/26/first-test-for-the-forthcoming-intel-6-core-xeon On 28 Nov 2009, at 18:03, Gmail wrote: > Mac Pro (This is a professional level machine only needed for people > doing regular high quality video editing or sound engineering. Where > extra expandability with video or sound cards is needed. Although this > area is now getting blurred with the new high end iMacs getting very > powerful with quad core processors Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ricnev at mac.com Sat Nov 28 22:37:20 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:37:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: Hi, Ruth. Did the hard reset I performed on your iPod Touch on Thursday help it to sync again? On 26 Nov 2009, at 13:49, Ruth Murray wrote: > Hi folks > > My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in > case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. > > Ruth > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Sat Nov 28 23:18:28 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:18:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Touch In-Reply-To: References: <7F0040E3-FEE3-4453-8F7F-3895A833B3A6@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <05872BB6-429C-43D8-BDC2-984302C46EDC@ruthmurray.f2s.com> I'm afraid not, I did do a restore within iTunes in the end and all was not lost, apart from one App wich was free when I installed it but isn't now! Thanks for your help anyway Ruth On 28 Nov 2009, at 22:37, Richard Nevill wrote: > Hi, Ruth. > > Did the hard reset I performed on your iPod Touch on Thursday help > it to sync again? > > On 26 Nov 2009, at 13:49, Ruth Murray wrote: > >> Hi folks >> >> My iPod Touch won't sync and I can't work out how to back it up in >> case 'Restore Factory' settings deletes all my Apps. >> >> Ruth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ >> listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/ > listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From gill at cerise.org.uk Sun Nov 29 18:52:37 2009 From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:52:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] help! can't turn off video mirroring! Message-ID: <42C8636E-E2DB-46E7-8DAB-1141A2566A49@cerise.org.uk> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me un-mirror my video displays! I've been able to use two displays fine, and then one time I plugged into a projector and turned on video-mirroring. Now, every time I use a projector the video is mirrored and I can't seem to switch it back! (because the resolution is low, the menu bar is squeezed and the displays icon doesn't show up. There doesn't seem to be an option in the displays preferences). This hasn't affected my normal two-display work with Macbook and external display - it's only when I use a projector. Can someone help me get back my lovely two-display functionality with a projector, please? I promise I wont ever turn on video mirroring ever again! thanks, Gill From ricnev at mac.com Sun Nov 29 23:23:05 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:23:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] help! can't turn off video mirroring! In-Reply-To: <42C8636E-E2DB-46E7-8DAB-1141A2566A49@cerise.org.uk> References: <42C8636E-E2DB-46E7-8DAB-1141A2566A49@cerise.org.uk> Message-ID: <98D5AB30-9EAD-44D8-B8A0-9390E49BA6C0@mac.com> The keyboard shortcut on the MacBook for toggling mirroring is Command F1 On other machines (e.g. my MBP) it is F7. On 29 Nov 2009, at 18:52, Gill Seyfang wrote: > Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me un-mirror my video displays! > > I've been able to use two displays fine, and then one time I plugged > into a projector and turned on video-mirroring. Now, every time I use > a projector the video is mirrored and I can't seem to switch it back! > (because the resolution is low, the menu bar is squeezed and the > displays icon doesn't show up. There doesn't seem to be an option in > the displays preferences). > > This hasn't affected my normal two-display work with Macbook and > external display - it's only when I use a projector. > > Can someone help me get back my lovely two-display functionality with > a projector, please? I promise I wont ever turn on video mirroring > ever again! > > thanks, Gill > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 30 08:38:44 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:38:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] help! can't turn off video mirroring! In-Reply-To: <42C8636E-E2DB-46E7-8DAB-1141A2566A49@cerise.org.uk> References: <42C8636E-E2DB-46E7-8DAB-1141A2566A49@cerise.org.uk> Message-ID: <869652D8-0A95-406C-A317-92A6F294559F@durrant.co.uk> On 29 Nov 2009, at 18:52, Gill Seyfang wrote: > Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me un-mirror my video displays! > > [...]There doesn't seem to be an option in > the displays preferences). Display Preference will show two dialogs, even in mirroring. Only one of them will have the "Arrangement" tab. Select the dialog with the Arrangement tab, select the Arrangement tab, and then uncheck the "Mirror Display" checkbox. regards, Paul From gill at cerise.org.uk Mon Nov 30 12:47:42 2009 From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] video mirroring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Paul, I'll have a try with this - it hasn't helped that I'm normally trying to sort out the problem with a class of students in the room, so I may have missed the arrangements tab in my mild panic! I'll also give the F7 a go, thanks Richard for that suggestion, Gill On 30 Nov 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > On 29 Nov 2009, at 18:52, Gill Seyfang wrote: > >> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me un-mirror my video displays! >> >> [...]There doesn't seem to be an option in >> the displays preferences). > > > Display Preference will show two dialogs, even in mirroring. Only one > of them will have the "Arrangement" tab. Select the dialog with the > Arrangement tab, select the Arrangement tab, and then uncheck the > "Mirror Display" checkbox. > > regards, > > Paul **************************** www.cerise.org.uk From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Nov 30 15:23:26 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere Message-ID: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> Earlier in the year the facility to take recordings off LPs and put them on cd was briefly mentioned at a meeting. Several ways are available and I recall that one particular method was was spoken badly of because of quality. Anyone remember the conversation? I am not looking for an especially high quality because most of my stuff is old, not well recorded in the first place, and I would prefer not too high a price! Maplins have, for ?50 "USB TURNTABLE-ION CONTOUR LP" Compact USB Vinyl-Archiving Turntable Transfer your vinyl collections to CD or MP3 Includes EZ Vinyl Converter with feature to add album, artist and song information Convert vinyl to PC with only 6 clicks of a mouse ?Plug ?n? play? USB and high-speed transfer option Record MP3s up to 320kbps bitrate 33-, 45- and now with 78-playback mode (a 78-stylus will be required, order code: N99HH) Play records on your home stereo without needing a pre-amplifier Includes all cables to connect to your computer and stereo PC and Mac compatible Includes Audacity software to edit your tracks and reduce noise from worn recordings Requires Windows 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista or Max OS9 or higher Compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 Product weight: 3.75 kg Product dimensions (W x D x H): 370 x 205 x 320 mm The stylish new ION Contour LP USB Turntable lets you bring your old vinyl records and tapes into the 21st Century. ION Contour LP is a music-conversion system that transfers your vinyl records to MP3 to your Mac or PC. This compact USB turntable connects with a plug-and- play USB connection that requires no complicated driver installation. Its small footprint makes the ION Contour LP easy to fit into your stereo system, taking up minimal space whilst still playing albums, 12- inch and 7-inch records. ION?s exclusive EZ Vinyl Converter software assists you in the creation of MP3 files which you can listen to on your computer, load onto your iPod or other MP3 player or record to CD. You can also enjoy your classic vinyl records using ION Contour LP as a standard record player - it even plays 78s (a 78 Stylus is required, order code: N99HH)! I welcome comments and opinions, please, and alternatives. Thanks Anthony From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Mon Nov 30 15:58:25 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (KEN ARNOLDI) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:58:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> References: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> Yes Anthony, I recall the conversation. I think that USB turntables weren't thought much of, although I don't think anyone present had one. You don't say if you already have anything to play them and only require the software. If you do have a pick-up and turntable, (amplifier not needed) then an iMic, Audio hijack, and FinalVinyl is all you need. Ken Arnoldi On Monday, November 30, 2009, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Earlier in the year the facility to take recordings off LPs and put > them on cd was briefly mentioned at a meeting. Several ways are > available and I recall that one particular method was was spoken badly > of because of quality. Anyone remember the conversation? > > I am not looking for an especially high quality because most of my > stuff is old, not well recorded in the first place, and I would prefer > not too high a price! > > Maplins have, for ?50 "USB TURNTABLE-ION CONTOUR LP" > Compact USB Vinyl-Archiving Turntable > Transfer your vinyl collections to CD or MP3 > Includes EZ Vinyl Converter with feature to add album, artist and song > information > Convert vinyl to PC with only 6 clicks of a mouse > ?Plug ?n? play? USB and high-speed transfer option > Record MP3s up to 320kbps bitrate > 33-, 45- and now with 78-playback mode (a 78-stylus will be required, > order code: N99HH) > Play records on your home stereo without needing a pre-amplifier > Includes all cables to connect to your computer and stereo > PC and Mac compatible > Includes Audacity software to edit your tracks and reduce noise from > worn recordings > Requires Windows 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista or Max OS9 or higher > Compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 > Product weight: 3.75 kg > Product dimensions (W x D x H): 370 x 205 x 320 mm > The stylish new ION Contour LP USB Turntable lets you bring your old > vinyl records and tapes into the 21st Century. ION Contour LP is a > music-conversion system that transfers your vinyl records to MP3 to > your Mac or PC. This compact USB turntable connects with a plug-and- > play USB connection that requires no complicated driver installation. > Its small footprint makes the ION Contour LP easy to fit into your > stereo system, taking up minimal space whilst still playing albums, 12- > inch and 7-inch records. ION?s exclusive EZ Vinyl Converter software > assists you in the creation of MP3 files which you can listen to on > your computer, load onto your iPod or other MP3 player or record to > CD. You can also enjoy your classic vinyl records using ION Contour LP > as a standard record player - it even plays 78s (a 78 Stylus is > required, order code: N99HH)! > > > > I welcome comments and opinions, please, and alternatives. > > Thanks > > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Nov 30 16:27:29 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:27:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Ken. My pickup and turntable are not in too good a condition. I do have Audio hijack but not Final Vinyl or IMic. What are they, please? Of course I do have mikes built in to my iMac and the earphones for my iTouch. Anthony On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:58, KEN ARNOLDI wrote: > Yes Anthony, > I recall the conversation. I think that USB turntables weren't thought > much of, although I don't think anyone present had one. > You don't say if you already have anything to play them and only > require the software. > If you do have a pick-up and turntable, (amplifier not needed) then an > iMic, Audio hijack, and FinalVinyl is all you need. > > Ken Arnoldi > > > On Monday, November 30, 2009, Anthony Brahams > wrote: >> Earlier in the year the facility to take recordings off LPs and put >> them on cd was briefly mentioned at a meeting. Several ways are >> available and I recall that one particular method was was spoken >> badly >> of because of quality. Anyone remember the conversation? >> >> I am not looking for an especially high quality because most of my >> stuff is old, not well recorded in the first place, and I would >> prefer >> not too high a price! >> >> Maplins have, for ?50 "USB TURNTABLE-ION CONTOUR LP" >> Compact USB Vinyl-Archiving Turntable >> Transfer your vinyl collections to CD or MP3 >> Includes EZ Vinyl Converter with feature to add album, artist and >> song >> information >> Convert vinyl to PC with only 6 clicks of a mouse >> ?Plug ?n? play? USB and high-speed transfer option >> Record MP3s up to 320kbps bitrate >> 33-, 45- and now with 78-playback mode (a 78-stylus will be required, >> order code: N99HH) >> Play records on your home stereo without needing a pre-amplifier >> Includes all cables to connect to your computer and stereo >> PC and Mac compatible >> Includes Audacity software to edit your tracks and reduce noise from >> worn recordings >> Requires Windows 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista or Max OS9 or higher >> Compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 >> Product weight: 3.75 kg >> Product dimensions (W x D x H): 370 x 205 x 320 mm >> The stylish new ION Contour LP USB Turntable lets you bring your old >> vinyl records and tapes into the 21st Century. ION Contour LP is a >> music-conversion system that transfers your vinyl records to MP3 to >> your Mac or PC. This compact USB turntable connects with a plug-and- >> play USB connection that requires no complicated driver installation. >> Its small footprint makes the ION Contour LP easy to fit into your >> stereo system, taking up minimal space whilst still playing albums, >> 12- >> inch and 7-inch records. ION?s exclusive EZ Vinyl Converter software >> assists you in the creation of MP3 files which you can listen to on >> your computer, load onto your iPod or other MP3 player or record to >> CD. You can also enjoy your classic vinyl records using ION Contour >> LP >> as a standard record player - it even plays 78s (a 78 Stylus is >> required, order code: N99HH)! >> >> >> >> I welcome comments and opinions, please, and alternatives. >> >> Thanks >> >> Anthony >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Mon Nov 30 16:54:59 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:54:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: References: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <67C703D2-F531-4E19-8781-2905B9948941@virgin.net> iMic is a USB plug in. It has an input jack and a switchable mic/line input. Final Vinyl is software that is downloadable and I believe is meant to go with the iMic. My 44 year old B&O unamplified record player works well with it. Is your pickup and turntable entirely useless or in what way are they in not too good a condition? Ken On 30 Nov 2009, at 04:27 PM, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Thanks, Ken. > > My pickup and turntable are not in too good a condition. > > I do have Audio hijack but not Final Vinyl or IMic. What are they, > please? > Of course I do have mikes built in to my iMac and the earphones for > my iTouch. > > Anthony > > On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:58, KEN ARNOLDI wrote: > >> Yes Anthony, >> I recall the conversation. I think that USB turntables weren't >> thought >> much of, although I don't think anyone present had one. >> You don't say if you already have anything to play them and only >> require the software. >> If you do have a pick-up and turntable, (amplifier not needed) then >> an >> iMic, Audio hijack, and FinalVinyl is all you need. >> >> Ken Arnoldi >> >> >> On Monday, November 30, 2009, Anthony Brahams >> wrote: >>> Earlier in the year the facility to take recordings off LPs and put >>> them on cd was briefly mentioned at a meeting. Several ways are >>> available and I recall that one particular method was was spoken >>> badly >>> of because of quality. Anyone remember the conversation? >>> >>> I am not looking for an especially high quality because most of my >>> stuff is old, not well recorded in the first place, and I would >>> prefer >>> not too high a price! >>> >>> Maplins have, for ?50 "USB TURNTABLE-ION CONTOUR LP" >>> Compact USB Vinyl-Archiving Turntable >>> Transfer your vinyl collections to CD or MP3 >>> Includes EZ Vinyl Converter with feature to add album, artist and >>> song >>> information >>> Convert vinyl to PC with only 6 clicks of a mouse >>> ?Plug ?n? play? USB and high-speed transfer option >>> Record MP3s up to 320kbps bitrate >>> 33-, 45- and now with 78-playback mode (a 78-stylus will be >>> required, >>> order code: N99HH) >>> Play records on your home stereo without needing a pre-amplifier >>> Includes all cables to connect to your computer and stereo >>> PC and Mac compatible >>> Includes Audacity software to edit your tracks and reduce noise from >>> worn recordings >>> Requires Windows 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista or Max OS9 or higher >>> Compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 >>> Product weight: 3.75 kg >>> Product dimensions (W x D x H): 370 x 205 x 320 mm >>> The stylish new ION Contour LP USB Turntable lets you bring your old >>> vinyl records and tapes into the 21st Century. ION Contour LP is a >>> music-conversion system that transfers your vinyl records to MP3 to >>> your Mac or PC. This compact USB turntable connects with a plug-and- >>> play USB connection that requires no complicated driver >>> installation. >>> Its small footprint makes the ION Contour LP easy to fit into your >>> stereo system, taking up minimal space whilst still playing albums, >>> 12- >>> inch and 7-inch records. ION?s exclusive EZ Vinyl Converter soft >>> ware >>> assists you in the creation of MP3 files which you can listen to on >>> your computer, load onto your iPod or other MP3 player or record to >>> CD. You can also enjoy your classic vinyl records using ION Contour >>> LP >>> as a standard record player - it even plays 78s (a 78 Stylus is >>> required, order code: N99HH)! >>> >>> >>> >>> I welcome comments and opinions, please, and alternatives. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Anthony >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 30 17:06:55 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:06:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: References: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSSO3ZwEYTY&feature=youtube_gdata On 30 Nov 2009, at 16:27, Anthony Brahams wrote: > I do have Audio hijack but not Final Vinyl or IMic. What are they, > please? Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 30 17:40:07 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:40:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Message for Joe Message-ID: <853B11FA-8CCF-4508-A8BA-C15A221775BF@mendelsohn.me.uk> Hi Joe Can you please get in touch with me - emails to your home don't seem to reach you, nor do telephone messages. Hope you are OK Phyll From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Nov 30 17:41:37 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:41:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: <67C703D2-F531-4E19-8781-2905B9948941@virgin.net> References: <5FE7CE25-7481-4639-A082-CA10552D5F56@themagic.me.uk> <7c0f9d370911300758m72f3e7f1ndaeeb126550d3b8a@mail.gmail.com> <67C703D2-F531-4E19-8781-2905B9948941@virgin.net> Message-ID: Thanks, Ken and Richard. The record player part may be all right, if I can detach it as it is a floor away from the computer?and I also will need cable with the correct ends. The videos Richard directed me to are interesting, especially the possibility of doing it for free, allegedly, but items in the above sentence apply. I saw an iMic in a video. I'll do some checking and further investigating. Anthony On 30 Nov 2009, at 16:54, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > iMic is a USB plug in. It has an input jack and a switchable mic/line > input. Final Vinyl is software that is downloadable and I believe is > meant to go with the iMic. > My 44 year old B&O unamplified record player works well with it. Is > your pickup and turntable entirely useless or in what way are they in > not too good a condition? > > Ken > > > > On 30 Nov 2009, at 04:27 PM, Anthony Brahams > wrote: > >> Thanks, Ken. >> >> My pickup and turntable are not in too good a condition. >> >> I do have Audio hijack but not Final Vinyl or IMic. What are they, >> please? >> Of course I do have mikes built in to my iMac and the earphones for >> my iTouch. >> >> Anthony >> >> On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:58, KEN ARNOLDI wrote: >> >>> Yes Anthony, >>> I recall the conversation. I think that USB turntables weren't >>> thought >>> much of, although I don't think anyone present had one. >>> You don't say if you already have anything to play them and only >>> require the software. >>> If you do have a pick-up and turntable, (amplifier not needed) then >>> an >>> iMic, Audio hijack, and FinalVinyl is all you need. >>> >>> Ken Arnoldi >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 30, 2009, Anthony Brahams >>> wrote: >>>> Earlier in the year the facility to take recordings off LPs and put >>>> them on cd was briefly mentioned at a meeting. Several ways are >>>> available and I recall that one particular method was was spoken >>>> badly >>>> of because of quality. Anyone remember the conversation? >>>> >>>> I am not looking for an especially high quality because most of my >>>> stuff is old, not well recorded in the first place, and I would >>>> prefer >>>> not too high a price! >>>> >>>> Maplins have, for ?50 "USB TURNTABLE-ION CONTOUR LP" >>>> Compact USB Vinyl-Archiving Turntable >>>> Transfer your vinyl collections to CD or MP3 >>>> Includes EZ Vinyl Converter with feature to add album, artist and >>>> song >>>> information >>>> Convert vinyl to PC with only 6 clicks of a mouse >>>> ?Plug ?n? play? USB and high-speed transfer option >>>> Record MP3s up to 320kbps bitrate >>>> 33-, 45- and now with 78-playback mode (a 78-stylus will be >>>> required, >>>> order code: N99HH) >>>> Play records on your home stereo without needing a pre-amplifier >>>> Includes all cables to connect to your computer and stereo >>>> PC and Mac compatible >>>> Includes Audacity software to edit your tracks and reduce noise >>>> from >>>> worn recordings >>>> Requires Windows 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista or Max OS9 or higher >>>> Compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 >>>> Product weight: 3.75 kg >>>> Product dimensions (W x D x H): 370 x 205 x 320 mm >>>> The stylish new ION Contour LP USB Turntable lets you bring your >>>> old >>>> vinyl records and tapes into the 21st Century. ION Contour LP is a >>>> music-conversion system that transfers your vinyl records to MP3 to >>>> your Mac or PC. This compact USB turntable connects with a plug- >>>> and- >>>> play USB connection that requires no complicated driver >>>> installation. >>>> Its small footprint makes the ION Contour LP easy to fit into your >>>> stereo system, taking up minimal space whilst still playing albums, >>>> 12- >>>> inch and 7-inch records. ION?s exclusive EZ Vinyl Converter soft >>>> ware >>>> assists you in the creation of MP3 files which you can listen to on >>>> your computer, load onto your iPod or other MP3 player or record to >>>> CD. You can also enjoy your classic vinyl records using ION Contour >>>> LP >>>> as a standard record player - it even plays 78s (a 78 Stylus is >>>> required, order code: N99HH)! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I welcome comments and opinions, please, and alternatives. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >>> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk >> Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 30 18:02:41 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Pietrzak Youngs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:02:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23036187-6779-463E-829F-69C9D601216C@gmail.com> On 30 Nov 2009, at 17:41, nmug-request at nmug.org.uk wrote: > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > > > Yes Anthony, > I recall the conversation. I think that USB turntables weren't thought > much of, although I don't think anyone present had one. My bruvver Bas has one and will doubtless report on his success. He last told me it was 'great'. I know this cos I and my uvver bruvver Kelvin bought it from Maplins for his birthday The turntable even has a nifty feature whereby you can play a 78 on it (which only supports 33 1/3 and 45 natively) and the software will speed it up and adjust pitch etc. You need to buy a special cartridge to do this which costs another 14 squid. I mention this so my bruvver Baz will buy me an even bigger pressy this Christmas. I've bought the USB tape player version, about 3 months ago actually, and I really must unpack it and try it out before the warranty expires. From Tgoldensection at aol.com Mon Nov 30 18:22:39 2009 From: Tgoldensection at aol.com (Tgoldensection at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:22:39 EST Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere Message-ID: Lidl's are doing a turntable this week that'll do 78s as well, come with Audacity software. From tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 30 18:45:28 2009 From: tonyhall0103 at googlemail.com (Tony Hall) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:45:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth Message-ID: Hello there NMUGers, We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps using my camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as usual!). I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see is a reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, stranger still, my wife has the same results when trying herself. Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send them to my friends and family. Sorry to be a nuisance, Tony From ricnev at mac.com Mon Nov 30 18:56:58 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:56:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You are confusing two separate applications. You should have on your machine both Photo Booth (whose icon looks like a photo booth curtain with three passport photos in front of it) and iPhoto (whose icon looks like a digital camera). You have just been using Photo Booth, which will take a picture of whoever is sitting at the computer via its iSight camera. To import photos and send them to your contacts you use iPhoto. On 30 Nov 2009, at 18:45, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello there NMUGers, > > We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps using my > camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my > MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as usual!). > > I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see is a > reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, stranger still, > my wife has the same results when trying herself. > > Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send them to > my friends and family. > > Sorry to be a nuisance, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Richard Nevill ricnev at mac.com From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Nov 30 18:58:41 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:58:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tony, photo booth is meant for taking photos/videos of yourself. The program you are looking for is called iPhoto, which may be in your Applications folder. I think that iPhoto is given away with new Macs, not 100% sure though, so you may not have iPhoto installed. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello there NMUGers, > > We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps using my > camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my > MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as usual!). > > I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see is a > reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, stranger still, > my wife has the same results when trying herself. > > Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send them to > my friends and family. > > Sorry to be a nuisance, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Nov 30 19:01:34 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F449932-F513-46FA-AFBD-3F9337D327AC@mendelsohn.me.uk> Hi Tony, You need to use iPhoto - not Photobooth (in fact I have only recently discovered Photobooth). From iPhoto you can view the photos, edit them and email them to family. You will also be able to print them. You can import the photos by either connecting your camera to the computer, flash drive or CD. Hope this helps Phyll On 30 Nov 2009, at 18:45, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello there NMUGers, > > We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps using my > camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my > MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as usual!). > > I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see is a > reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, stranger still, > my wife has the same results when trying herself. > > Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send them to > my friends and family. > > Sorry to be a nuisance, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mercer at gotadsl.co.uk Mon Nov 30 19:04:44 2009 From: mercer at gotadsl.co.uk (Valerie Mercer) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:04:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth In-Reply-To: <9F449932-F513-46FA-AFBD-3F9337D327AC@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <9F449932-F513-46FA-AFBD-3F9337D327AC@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: Tony. Questions like yours are not a nuisance! When you've opened iPhoto the "Help" menu is quite good about importing from a digital camera. Valerie On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:01, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: Hi Tony, You need to use iPhoto - not Photobooth (in fact I have only recently discovered Photobooth). > From iPhoto you can view the photos, edit them and email them to > family. You will also be able to print them. You can import the > photos by either connecting your camera to the computer, flash drive > or CD. Hope this helps Phyll On 30 Nov 2009, at 18:45, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello there NMUGers, > > We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps > using my > camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my > MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as > usual!). > > I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see > is a > reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, > stranger still, > my wife has the same results when trying herself. > > Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send > them to > my friends and family. > > Sorry to be a nuisance, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at mac.com Mon Nov 30 19:07:59 2009 From: fowler.j at mac.com (Jonathan Fowler) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:07:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhotoBooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <803D8DF4-EE08-4F14-8E0F-2AECF2FFEB4D@mac.com> Photo booth is an application to use the webcam to take photos. iPhoto is the application to import your photos and edit them. Jon Sent from my iPhone On 30 Nov 2009, at 18:45, Tony Hall wrote: > Hello there NMUGers, > > We recently had some family round and I decided to take a few snaps > using my > camera. I finally have some photos now that I would like to see on my > MacBook, but, unfortunately I seem to be having some problems (as > usual!). > > I opened up iPhotoBooth to 'import' the photos however all I can see > is a > reflection of myself. I'm certain this cannot be right, but, > stranger still, > my wife has the same results when trying herself. > > Where can I import these photos? I only want to view them and send > them to > my friends and family. > > Sorry to be a nuisance, > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > Send messages for NMUG list to: NMUG at nmug.org.uk > Manage your subscription at: http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Mon Nov 30 19:26:36 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:26:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Putting LP etc on CD and elsewhere In-Reply-To: <23036187-6779-463E-829F-69C9D601216C@gmail.com> References: <23036187-6779-463E-829F-69C9D601216C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A031D39-48BB-4E23-A00E-163E38AF7F92@mac.com> Yes, we actually lent one unit to a NMUG member and have never seen it again as we forgot who collected it from Bazeers house in Spixworth? Come on ? own up which one of you borrowed it! Kelvin From david.maskell at ntlworld.com Mon Nov 30 20:47:33 2009 From: david.maskell at ntlworld.com (David Maskell) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:47:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] putting LP onto CD Message-ID: <8F9341FD-A8EA-4926-906D-742770C488EF@ntlworld.com> Hi, I have a large collection of vinyl, and an OK technics deck.... What I did to put my collections onto CD/mp3/aac etc was to record them direct into garageband! Once you have recorded a whole side, you can easily split the track into different sections, name them and then convert certain ones once at a time to whatever format garageband will allow you to save in. I just used one of those 2RCA to 3.5mm adaptors from my cyrus 8 amp tape output to the line in on my G5 imac, fantastic. Records sound good, and if you like you can even play with the settings in garageband (equalizer etc) but then it kind of defeats the purpose of what vinyl is all about... It's a solution if you only want to do one or two like I did, but for a large collection perhaps another program would help speed it up. If your not interested in digging up the sound quality from a vinyl, then a USB deck would be quick painless and sometimes you can save straight onto a memory card. Just my 2p worth! David Maskell From macman at f2s.com Mon Nov 30 21:38:45 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:38:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Anyone want to join in? Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/ycjg9r8 Robbie Robbie Murray 01603 620749 01603 516175 07882 007667 macman at f2s.com