From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Mar 1 16:25:22 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:25:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? Message-ID: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Hi all I would like to upgrade my old 1.25 ghz G4 mirror door later this year to something that works faster. Boy are the Mac Pro's expensive and G5's tend to be about the same age as the G4. Are there many of you with imacs? are they any good? as I can get a 3.0 ghz with a 500 gig H/D and 2 gig ram for about ?1200 Are there any problems with attaching lots of drives, USB cables etc? Do they come with the O/s installed? I back up my pix to external h/drives at the moment and would need to continue this. Any ideas martin www.martinfryphotography.com From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sun Mar 1 16:51:11 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:51:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Martin I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, Office and Final cut Pro. Nathan On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:25, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to upgrade my old 1.25 ghz G4 mirror door later this > year to something that works faster. > > Boy are the Mac Pro's expensive and G5's tend to be about the same > age as the G4. > > Are there many of you with imacs? are they any good? as I can get a > 3.0 ghz with a 500 gig H/D and 2 gig ram for about ?1200 > > Are there any problems with attaching lots of drives, USB cables > etc? Do they come with the O/s installed? > > I back up my pix to external h/drives at the moment and would need > to continue this. > > Any ideas > > martin > www > .martinfryphotography > .com_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sun Mar 1 16:56:11 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:56:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Message-ID: <953933E0-39EA-4E3A-BE6B-BC53AB46CD8E@zen.co.uk> Suggestion, It may be worth waiting a little longer. iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in October. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: > Hi Martin > I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It has > three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. > Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, > Office and Final cut Pro. > > Nathan > > > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:25, Martin Fry wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I would like to upgrade my old 1.25 ghz G4 mirror door later this >> year to something that works faster. >> >> Boy are the Mac Pro's expensive and G5's tend to be about the same >> age as the G4. >> >> Are there many of you with imacs? are they any good? as I can get >> a 3.0 ghz with a 500 gig H/D and 2 gig ram for about ?1200 >> >> Are there any problems with attaching lots of drives, USB cables >> etc? Do they come with the O/s installed? >> >> I back up my pix to external h/drives at the moment and would need >> to continue this. >> >> Any ideas >> >> martin >> www >> .martinfryphotography >> .com_______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Mar 1 17:16:19 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:16:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <953933E0-39EA-4E3A-BE6B-BC53AB46CD8E@zen.co.uk> References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> <953933E0-39EA-4E3A-BE6B-BC53AB46CD8E@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks guys... I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! Martin On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote > > It may be worth waiting a little longer. > iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An > announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. > Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in > October. > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: > >> Hi Martin >> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >> Office and Final cut Pro. >> >> Nathan From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 1 18:35:22 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 01 Mar 2009 18:35:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Message-ID: Martin Personally I would steer very clear of the G5 and Intel iMacs. A number of group members have had serious problems with theirs myself included. As Steven said, we are awaiting a shake up in the Mac line so I would wait and see what happens and with the impending release of Snow Leopard it would be wise to wait. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 1 2009, Martin Fry wrote: Thanks guys... I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! Martin On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote > > It may be worth waiting a little longer. > iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An > announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. > Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in > October. > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: > >> Hi Martin >> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >> Office and Final cut Pro. >> >> Nathan _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 1 19:16:44 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:16:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was expecting an update to the iMac line in Jan and was ready to shell out. It's been a long interval now since the last release. I expect that with the downturn the cycle of release of most technology might actually slow down. I half wonder if they'll release a unibody ali model which may make a design statement but could be really difficult to access work on. Its very hard if not impossible to know the reliability of any particular model or line. If iMacs are unreliable then that is a large segment of the Mac line up. I get the feeling these days that everything is assembled to a production line with minimal testing - until of the course the purchaser gets it home or receives delivery!. My G4 became noisier with every drive and card I added - I look forward to a quieter Mac. regards Brian Simon Royal said recently: > Martin > > Personally I would steer very clear of the G5 and Intel iMacs. A number of > group members have had serious problems with theirs myself included. > > As Steven said, we are awaiting a shake up in the Mac line so I would wait > and see what happens and with the impending release of Snow Leopard it > would be wise to wait. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 1 2009, Martin Fry wrote: > > Thanks guys... > > I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes > along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! > > Martin > > > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote >> >> It may be worth waiting a little longer. >> iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An >> announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. >> Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in >> October. >> >> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: >> >>> Hi Martin >>> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >>> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >>> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >>> Office and Final cut Pro. >>> >>> Nathan > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sun Mar 1 19:39:00 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:39:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <347C621D-3129-4C2F-8F40-F9E77572DFC2@zen.co.uk> That's why refurbs work well cos they are deep soak tested. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 1 Mar 2009, at 19:16, Brian Steere wrote: > I was expecting an update to the iMac line in Jan and was ready to > shell > out. It's been a long interval now since the last release. I expect > that > with the downturn the cycle of release of most technology might > actually > slow down. > I half wonder if they'll release a unibody ali model which may make > a design > statement but could be really difficult to access work on. > Its very hard if not impossible to know the reliability of any > particular > model or line. If iMacs are unreliable then that is a large segment > of the > Mac line up. > I get the feeling these days that everything is assembled to a > production > line with minimal testing - until of the course the purchaser gets > it home > or receives delivery!. > > My G4 became noisier with every drive and card I added - I look > forward to a > quieter Mac. > > regards > Brian > > Simon Royal said recently: > >> Martin >> >> Personally I would steer very clear of the G5 and Intel iMacs. A >> number of >> group members have had serious problems with theirs myself included. >> >> As Steven said, we are awaiting a shake up in the Mac line so I >> would wait >> and see what happens and with the impending release of Snow Leopard >> it >> would be wise to wait. >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & >> 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> On Mar 1 2009, Martin Fry wrote: >> >> Thanks guys... >> >> I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes >> along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote >>> >>> It may be worth waiting a little longer. >>> iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An >>> announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. >>> Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in >>> October. >>> >>> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Martin >>>> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >>>> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >>>> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >>>> Office and Final cut Pro. >>>> >>>> Nathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 1 19:42:32 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:42:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Martin, I got my new iMac (20" 2.66) from John Lewis (2 year warranty for free) a couple of months ago and it's great. It came with a 320GB hard drive and 2 GB RAM, but I upgraded the RAM to 4 GB via Crucial. I have a 500 and a 250 GB hard drives attached, plus a LiteON external DVDRW, and a 7 port USB hub with other stuff plugged in, plus a mono laser printer and an inkjet all-in-one. No problems so far. The iMac came with Leopard pre-loaded, along with iLife 08 (which Apple upgraded to 09 for ?7+ for me), plus Apple keyboard and Mighty mouse. I would have liked the 3.06 24" model, but I couldn't run to that yet. With the JL 2 year warranty I feel happy with this. And it's so quiet I don't even know it's on! Hope that helps. Regards Peter On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:25, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to upgrade my old 1.25 ghz G4 mirror door later this > year to something that works faster. > > Boy are the Mac Pro's expensive and G5's tend to be about the same > age as the G4. > > Are there many of you with imacs? are they any good? as I can get a > 3.0 ghz with a 500 gig H/D and 2 gig ram for about ?1200 > > Are there any problems with attaching lots of drives, USB cables > etc? Do they come with the O/s installed? > > I back up my pix to external h/drives at the moment and would need > to continue this. > > Any ideas > > martin > www > .martinfryphotography > .com_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sun Mar 1 19:58:53 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:58:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> Message-ID: <6B3D7B43-0752-4409-851B-C836AC6F535D@f2s.com> Hi Martin Between us, my MD and I have had every iMac from the G3 Tray Loader on, and have have loved every one of them. I have a 20" aluminium 2.4Ghz; he currently runs a 24" white Intel on which he does very heavy duty graphics work, producing our Mail Order catalogue. Both are festooned with drives & printers - firewire & USB, and have multiple programmes running all the time, and we rarely encounter any problem - I currently have 14 applications open with no problem. I will, however, close few that I had forgotten about - they're a bit sneaky, opening up for one file, then I forget all about them .... New ones come with the latest OS installed - plug in and switch on, then pull all your stuff over from the old one using migration assistant, and you're in business. I backup to an external drive using the built in Firewire 800 port - brilliantly fast and reliable. It's true that there is an expectation of a revamp, so a little patience may be advisable, but I would thoroughly recommend the current models. Isn't it funny, though, that we see 10 months as "a long time since there was a new model?" Robbie On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:25, Martin Fry wrote: Hi all I would like to upgrade my old 1.25 ghz G4 mirror door later this year to something that works faster. Boy are the Mac Pro's expensive and G5's tend to be about the same age as the G4. Are there many of you with imacs? are they any good? as I can get a 3.0 ghz with a 500 gig H/D and 2 gig ram for about ?1200 Are there any problems with attaching lots of drives, USB cables etc? Do they come with the O/s installed? I back up my pix to external h/drives at the moment and would need to continue this. Any ideas martin www .martinfryphotography.com_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sun Mar 1 20:00:05 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:00:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <347C621D-3129-4C2F-8F40-F9E77572DFC2@zen.co.uk> References: <347C621D-3129-4C2F-8F40-F9E77572DFC2@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <633C3FAB-D231-4DA7-B8C9-24BCF03EFD91@f2s.com> I've always had refurbs! Robbie On 1 Mar 2009, at 19:39, Steven Jefferson wrote: That's why refurbs work well cos they are deep soak tested. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 1 Mar 2009, at 19:16, Brian Steere wrote: > I was expecting an update to the iMac line in Jan and was ready to > shell > out. It's been a long interval now since the last release. I expect > that > with the downturn the cycle of release of most technology might > actually > slow down. > I half wonder if they'll release a unibody ali model which may make > a design > statement but could be really difficult to access work on. > Its very hard if not impossible to know the reliability of any > particular > model or line. If iMacs are unreliable then that is a large segment > of the > Mac line up. > I get the feeling these days that everything is assembled to a > production > line with minimal testing - until of the course the purchaser gets > it home > or receives delivery!. > > My G4 became noisier with every drive and card I added - I look > forward to a > quieter Mac. > > regards > Brian > > Simon Royal said recently: > >> Martin >> >> Personally I would steer very clear of the G5 and Intel iMacs. A >> number of >> group members have had serious problems with theirs myself included. >> >> As Steven said, we are awaiting a shake up in the Mac line so I >> would wait >> and see what happens and with the impending release of Snow Leopard >> it >> would be wise to wait. >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & >> 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> On Mar 1 2009, Martin Fry wrote: >> >> Thanks guys... >> >> I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes >> along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote >>> >>> It may be worth waiting a little longer. >>> iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An >>> announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. >>> Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in >>> October. >>> >>> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Martin >>>> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >>>> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >>>> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >>>> Office and Final cut Pro. >>>> >>>> Nathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Sun Mar 1 22:29:24 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:29:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <633C3FAB-D231-4DA7-B8C9-24BCF03EFD91@f2s.com> References: <347C621D-3129-4C2F-8F40-F9E77572DFC2@zen.co.uk> <633C3FAB-D231-4DA7-B8C9-24BCF03EFD91@f2s.com> Message-ID: <49AB0C44.90209@mac.com> I'm not in the market for a new machine at the moment but a standard issue Mac Pro is probably no more expensive than a blue and white G3 tower would have been 10 years ago... Tom. Robbie Murray wrote: > I've always had refurbs! > > Robbie > > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 19:39, Steven Jefferson wrote: > > That's why refurbs work well cos they are deep soak tested. > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 1 Mar 2009, at 19:16, Brian Steere wrote: > >> I was expecting an update to the iMac line in Jan and was ready to shell >> out. It's been a long interval now since the last release. I expect that >> with the downturn the cycle of release of most technology might actually >> slow down. >> I half wonder if they'll release a unibody ali model which may make a >> design >> statement but could be really difficult to access work on. >> Its very hard if not impossible to know the reliability of any >> particular >> model or line. If iMacs are unreliable then that is a large segment >> of the >> Mac line up. >> I get the feeling these days that everything is assembled to a >> production >> line with minimal testing - until of the course the purchaser gets it >> home >> or receives delivery!. >> >> My G4 became noisier with every drive and card I added - I look >> forward to a >> quieter Mac. >> >> regards >> Brian >> >> Simon Royal said recently: >> >>> Martin >>> >>> Personally I would steer very clear of the G5 and Intel iMacs. A >>> number of >>> group members have had serious problems with theirs myself included. >>> >>> As Steven said, we are awaiting a shake up in the Mac line so I >>> would wait >>> and see what happens and with the impending release of Snow Leopard it >>> would be wise to wait. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> --- >>> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >>> >>> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >>> 10.5 & >>> 9.2.2... >>> >>> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 1 2009, Martin Fry wrote: >>> >>> Thanks guys... >>> >>> I can't afford one yet anyway! Unless a top of the range one comes >>> along used, or cheap... Or Ideally both! >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Steven Jefferson wrote >>>> >>>> It may be worth waiting a little longer. >>>> iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An >>>> announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. >>>> Ditto the Mac Pro, which I have been awaiting since my G5 died in >>>> October. >>>> >>>> On 1 Mar 2009, at 16:51, nathan crosby wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Martin >>>>> I have a white iMac which I have had for about three years. It >>>>> has three external HDs attached totalling 3TB. >>>>> Very pleased with it's performance. I use Photoshop, Aperture, >>>>> Office and Final cut Pro. >>>>> >>>>> Nathan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 2 00:58:29 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:58:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <6B3D7B43-0752-4409-851B-C836AC6F535D@f2s.com> Message-ID: well - relatively it is - as until recently the cycle has been closer to 6 months. I don't mind longer update cycles - but it could be just a bit sad to buy something only to find a week later that the same money could have bought a lot more. regards Brian Robbie Murray said recently: > Isn't it funny, though, that we see 10 months as "a long time since > there was a new model?" From alan at asw6000.plus.com Mon Mar 2 09:14:29 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:14:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] re Ext HD Message-ID: <44E504DF-BAE8-4109-ACDC-F5C5ED1C41FD@asw6000.plus.com> I've just got a Western Digital HD , can you password protect it ? Alan Williams alan at asw6000.plus.com From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 09:35:08 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:35:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs Message-ID: Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with replacing my backup camera. My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another 5D, but because I waited too long the 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings up the mark 11 every time. Regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From david.tillyer at googlemail.com Mon Mar 2 09:52:33 2009 From: david.tillyer at googlemail.com (David Tillyer) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:52:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These guys have them but I'd try getting one used from Ebay: http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-5d-body-and-digitalrev-hand-strap-1859.html?match_type=1&page=4 or try the used section on ffordes.com. Dave 2009/3/2 Martin Fry > Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. > > Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if anything > new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with replacing my > backup camera. > > My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I do > completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another 5D, but > because I waited too long the > 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. > > Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings up the > mark 11 every time. > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- David Tillyer Photography http://www.davidthephotographer.co.uk http://davidthephotographer.blogspot.com/ From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 2 09:53:41 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:53:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] re Ext HD In-Reply-To: <44E504DF-BAE8-4109-ACDC-F5C5ED1C41FD@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: Not as far as I am aware unless it provides software to enable this on a Mac. But if you have critical data that simply must be protected you can create a sparse disk image on the drive and protect that with a secure password. This is what Apple use in the background for file vault. You can make these easily enough in Disk Utility. Then when the disk itself mounts as a volume on your Mac you have to open the diskimage - with the password - to access the files therein. hope this helps regards Brian Alan Williams said recently: > I've just got a Western Digital HD , can you password protect it ? > > > Alan Williams > alan at asw6000.plus.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 2 09:56:46 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:56:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try adding the following to your search query: -11 hope this helps regards Brian Martin Fry said recently: > Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. > > Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if > anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with > replacing my backup camera. > > My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I > do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another > 5D, but because I waited too long the > 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. > > Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings up > the mark 11 every time. > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From homeopathy.expert at googlemail.com Mon Mar 2 10:05:49 2009 From: homeopathy.expert at googlemail.com (Simon King) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:05:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <734d07ef0903020205o63011406t335c851623e12776@mail.gmail.com> Should have said sooner- I just recently sold mine! (oops that doesnt help does it?) Try POTN marketplace? http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Martin Fry wrote: > Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. > > Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if anything > new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with replacing my > backup camera. > > My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I do > completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another 5D, but > because I waited too long the > 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. > > Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings up the > mark 11 every time. > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Kind Regards Simon King 227 St Leonards Rd Norwich Norfolk NR1 4JN UK 01603 466092 07954 581 774 From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 10:16:16 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:16:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9d6dadb519cdf7de721bcc9cc178317e@virgin.net> Hi Brian > Did you mean "-1" as I do Not need a mark-11 camera ( And at around ?2000 I can't afford a -11) martin > Try adding the following to your search query: > > -11 > > hope this helps > > regards > Brian > > > Martin Fry said recently: > >> Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. >> >> Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if >> anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with >> replacing my backup camera. >> >> My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I >> do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another >> 5D, but because I waited too long the >> 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. >> >> Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings >> up >> the mark 11 every time. >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > www.martinfryphotography.com From penguin.999 at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 10:24:07 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:24:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: <9d6dadb519cdf7de721bcc9cc178317e@virgin.net> References: <9d6dadb519cdf7de721bcc9cc178317e@virgin.net> Message-ID: <02F7245F-C2E7-423B-B6C0-9E08E4BFD005@virgin.net> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:16, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Brian >> > Did you mean "-1" as I do Not need a mark-11 camera ( And at > around ?2000 I can't afford a -11) If you put a "-" before a word then it will not show anything with that word. I think Brian was saying how you could refine your search. Paul C From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Mar 2 10:27:08 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Eudora addresses to be used in Mail Message-ID: <6CA1BD1F-5831-421D-9269-40F2F005E264@themagic.me.uk> I have been trying to get the Eudora addresses into Mail, going via Thunderbird. However I cannot find the Eudora addresses. I did eventually find "Eudora Nicknames" which could be the file but it was greyed out and I could not select it. Any ideas, please? To recap, the way to transfer is (I believe) to run Thunderbird which can then import the Eudora addresses and then export them to Mail. Any other ways welcomed. Thanks Anthony This message was originally sent from wrong eMail address From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 2 10:29:40 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:29:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] re Ext HD In-Reply-To: <44E504DF-BAE8-4109-ACDC-F5C5ED1C41FD@asw6000.plus.com> References: <44E504DF-BAE8-4109-ACDC-F5C5ED1C41FD@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: You can restrict access via 'GetInfo' At the bottom, click sharing and permissions, unlock the padlock, and you can then specify access for yourself and other specified users, and block access by anyone else. I'm not sure, however, if this gives the level of security you may want, or what happens when it's disconnected, as I've never used it. Also, if it's used to clone your HD using SuperDuper or CCC, I would expect it to mirror the permissions on your internal disk. Robbie On 2 Mar 2009, at 09:14, Alan Williams wrote: I've just got a Western Digital HD , can you password protect it ? Alan Williams alan at asw6000.plus.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Mar 2 10:38:54 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:38:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Eudora addresses to be used in Mail In-Reply-To: <6CA1BD1F-5831-421D-9269-40F2F005E264@themagic.me.uk> References: <6CA1BD1F-5831-421D-9269-40F2F005E264@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: Having recommended the Eudora>Thunderbird>Mail route at the recent meeting, I now discover that this may not work consistently for everyone, or perhaps anyone! So I just had a scrabble around to see if I could come across any other solution, and came across this: http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Eudora_Mailbox_Cleaner.html I hope this might help you. Richard. On 2 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Anthony Brahams wrote: > I have been trying to get the Eudora addresses into Mail, going > via Thunderbird. > > However I cannot find the Eudora addresses. I did eventually find > "Eudora Nicknames" which could be the file but it was greyed out > and I could not select it. > > Any ideas, please? > > To recap, the way to transfer is (I believe) to run Thunderbird > which can then import the Eudora addresses and then export them to > Mail. Any other ways welcomed. > > Thanks > > Anthony > > This message was originally sent from wrong eMail address > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 2 11:16:59 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:16:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B4F87DB-0598-4315-A13E-216947FFAD6E@durrant.co.uk> The search terms you need are: Canon EOS 5D -"mark II" I found this one going cheap: http://uk.nine.ebid.net/perl/auction.cgi?auction=14661097&mo=auction but there seem to be some still about 'new'. http://www.hidigital.co.uk/canon---eos-5d-body-only-black-4782-p.asp On 2 Mar 2009, at 09:35, Martin Fry wrote: > Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. > > Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if > anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with > replacing my backup camera. > > My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what > I do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get > another 5D, but because I waited too long the > 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. > > Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings > up the mark 11 every time. > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 2 11:23:01 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:23:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: <9d6dadb519cdf7de721bcc9cc178317e@virgin.net> Message-ID: if you had tried it you would have already found out -11 in most search engines will exclude findings that contain 11 all the best Brian Martin Fry said recently: > Hi Brian >> > Did you mean "-1" as I do Not need a mark-11 camera ( And at around > ?2000 I can't afford a -11) > > martin > > > > >> Try adding the following to your search query: >> >> -11 >> >> hope this helps >> >> regards >> Brian >> >> >> Martin Fry said recently: >> >>> Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. >>> >>> Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if >>> anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with >>> replacing my backup camera. >>> >>> My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what I >>> do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get another >>> 5D, but because I waited too long the >>> 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. >>> >>> Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings >>> up >>> the mark 11 every time. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> www.martinfryphotography.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Mar 2 11:47:46 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:47:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Eudora addresses to be used in Mail In-Reply-To: References: <6CA1BD1F-5831-421D-9269-40F2F005E264@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <52752949-623A-4029-9359-12C888ED01BA@mac.com> On reflection, I wonder if there is a simple method of exporting a csv file from Eudora and then importing that file into Address Book? Amazing how many ways we have to do things, sometimes. Richard. On 2 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Richard Nevill wrote: > Having recommended the Eudora>Thunderbird>Mail route at the recent > meeting, I now discover that this may not work consistently for > everyone, or perhaps anyone! So I just had a scrabble around to see > if I could come across any other solution, and came across this: > > http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Eudora_Mailbox_Cleaner.html > > I hope this might help you. > > Richard. > > > On 2 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Anthony Brahams wrote: > >> I have been trying to get the Eudora addresses into Mail, going >> via Thunderbird. >> >> However I cannot find the Eudora addresses. I did eventually find >> "Eudora Nicknames" which could be the file but it was greyed out >> and I could not select it. >> >> Any ideas, please? >> >> To recap, the way to transfer is (I believe) to run Thunderbird >> which can then import the Eudora addresses and then export them to >> Mail. Any other ways welcomed. >> >> Thanks >> >> Anthony >> >> This message was originally sent from wrong eMail address >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 12:27:01 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:27:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A8603AA-A24A-4A12-8623-99F7BB012DED@virgin.net> Martin, I have got the 5D Mark II and I still have the Mark I. Email me off list. Nathan On 2 Mar 2009, at 09:35, Martin Fry wrote: > Many thanks to everyone for their comments on imacs etc. > > Unless something fantastic comes up I will wait awhile to see if > anything new is released, but!!! I am having the same problem with > replacing my backup camera. > > My main camera is a Canon EOS 5D 12.8 MP which I love, it suits what > I do completely. I would like to sell my backup EOS 20D and get > another 5D, but because I waited too long the > 5D MK11 21 mp. came out and I can't find an older mark one. > > Even typing in the words "old", "mark 1" etc on the internet brings > up the mark 11 every time. > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 2 12:39:15 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:39:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New mac? In-Reply-To: <953933E0-39EA-4E3A-BE6B-BC53AB46CD8E@zen.co.uk> References: <183f52c7851db487aaa89e5f0f75873c@virgin.net> <953933E0-39EA-4E3A-BE6B-BC53AB46CD8E@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <49ABD373.1070202@davidviner.com> Steven Jefferson wrote: > Suggestion, > > It may be worth waiting a little longer. > > iMacs are coming to end of life and I gather supplies are short. An > announcement is possible in the next few weeks/months. The rumour mill about new Macs is cranking up here: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/201/1051201/apple-march-makeover David From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 14:46:11 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New macs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <166a97fe8172df0e7281774f70948c55@virgin.net> Cool! I didn't know that! martin > > -11. in most search engines will exclude findings that contain 11 > > all the best > Brian > From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 18:43:54 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:43:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David Hope you & Thea are well :-) I'm obviously very late to this one, but if Heather doesn't want it or anyone else for that matter, I'd like to get this for family use. I don't know what the going rate is for imacs at the moment, but I got 1 last year for my Dad off Joe Butler for ?25 so would obviously pay you something similar (mind you his may have fallen off the back of the proverbial lorry) so maybe ?35? How does that soyund? If it's still available, let me know, would you. Dixie could do with this - we've taken her out of school so Kat is home educating her until she goes to Framingham Earl after Easter. What a term! Best wishes Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 28 Feb 2009, at 19:03, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear All > > Anyone want a blueberry iMac, good working order, OSX installed, > and sundry keyboards? > > Offers? > > Best wishes, > > David > > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 2 20:57:26 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:57:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered Message-ID: Jeremy I am a good mate of Joe and feel your comment about his goods was a little below the belt. His Macs are sourced from legit places. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] iMac offered From: Jeremy Webb Date: 02/03/2009 18:44 Hi David Hope you & Thea are well :-) I'm obviously very late to this one, but if Heather doesn't want it or anyone else for that matter, I'd like to get this for family use. I don't know what the going rate is for imacs at the moment, but I got 1 last year for my Dad off Joe Butler for ?25 so would obviously pay you something similar (mind you his may have fallen off the back of the proverbial lorry) so maybe ?35? How does that soyund? If it's still available, let me know, would you. Dixie could do with this - we've taken her out of school so Kat is home educating her until she goes to Framingham Earl after Easter. What a term! Best wishes Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 28 Feb 2009, at 19:03, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear All > > Anyone want a blueberry iMac, good working order, OSX installed, > and sundry keyboards? > > Offers? > > Best wishes, > > David > > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 2 22:08:01 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:08:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? Message-ID: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model numbers and specifications. It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced tomorrow. Paul From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 2 22:55:03 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:55:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <707C726F-9BE1-43D1-B944-AB0454F98459@virgin.net> Absolutely. My little "joke" was over-familiar and inappropriate, and I offer my full and sincere apologies. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 2 Mar 2009, at 20:57, Simon Royal wrote: > Jeremy > > I am a good mate of Joe and feel your comment about his goods was a > little below the belt. > > His Macs are sourced from legit places. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] iMac offered > From: Jeremy Webb > Date: 02/03/2009 18:44 > > Hi David > > Hope you & Thea are well :-) I'm obviously very late to this one, but > if Heather doesn't want it or anyone else > for that matter, I'd like to get this for family use. I don't know > what the going rate is for imacs at the moment, but I > got 1 last year for my Dad off Joe Butler for ?25 so would obviously > pay you something similar (mind you his may have fallen > off the back of the proverbial lorry) so maybe ?35? How does that > soyund? If it's still available, let me know, would you. Dixie could > do with > this - we've taken her out of school so Kat is home educating her > until she goes to Framingham Earl after Easter. What a term! > > Best wishes > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > On 28 Feb 2009, at 19:03, David Van Edwards wrote: > >> Dear All >> >> Anyone want a blueberry iMac, good working order, OSX installed, >> and sundry keyboards? >> >> Offers? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> David >> >> >> -- >> The Smokehouse, >> 6 Whitwell Road, >> Norwich, NR1 4HB >> England. >> >> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 3 12:33:58 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:33:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs Message-ID: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> Has anyone tried to re-photograph Colour Negatives? When they are inverted to positive they come out blue! How can I overcome this except by making them Black & White? martin From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 3 09:47:27 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:47:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered In-Reply-To: <707C726F-9BE1-43D1-B944-AB0454F98459@virgin.net> Message-ID: <505337.26368.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Jeremy if you can back up you childish comments please do. ?I'm sure my solicitors will pleased to set you straight. ? ? ? ? ? ? --- On Mon, 2/3/09, Jeremy Webb wrote: From: Jeremy Webb Subject: Re: [NMUG] iMac offered To: "Simon Royal" , "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 10:55 PM Absolutely. My little "joke" was over-familiar and inappropriate, and I offer my full and sincere apologies. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 2 Mar 2009, at 20:57, Simon Royal wrote: > Jeremy > > I am a good mate of Joe and feel your comment about his goods was a > little below the belt. > > His Macs are sourced from legit places. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] iMac offered > From: Jeremy Webb > Date: 02/03/2009 18:44 > > Hi David > > Hope you & Thea are well :-) I'm obviously very late to this one, but > if Heather doesn't want it or anyone else > for that matter, I'd like to get this for family use. I don't know > what the going rate is for imacs at the moment, but I > got 1 last year for my Dad off Joe Butler for ?25 so would obviously > pay you something similar (mind you his may have fallen > off the back of the proverbial lorry) so maybe ?35? How does that > soyund? If it's still available, let me know, would you. Dixie could > do with > this - we've taken her out of school so Kat is home educating her > until she goes to Framingham Earl after Easter. What a term! > > Best wishes > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > On 28 Feb 2009, at 19:03, David Van Edwards wrote: > >> Dear All >> >> Anyone want a blueberry iMac, good working order, OSX installed, >> and sundry keyboards? >> >> Offers? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> David >> >> >> -- >> The Smokehouse, >> 6 Whitwell Road, >> Norwich, NR1 4HB >> England. >> >> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Tue Mar 3 12:49:21 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:49:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> Message-ID: <49AD2751.1040109@mac.com> Martin, Do you have a scanner you could use? Photographing negatives would surely introduce all sorts of issues. The negatives contain an orange mask (blue / cyan when inverted) which can be filtered out in Photoshop. Tom. Martin Fry wrote: > Has anyone tried to re-photograph Colour Negatives? > > When they are inverted to positive they come out blue! > > How can I overcome this except by making them Black & White? > > martin > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rob at atvetsystems.com Tue Mar 3 12:57:53 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:57:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered In-Reply-To: <505337.26368.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <505337.26368.qm@web26702.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <272644DA-57D7-4CCB-9D6A-250A620C376D@atvetsystems.com> Come on, can't we all lighten up a bit or take it off-list so that the rest of us don't have read this kind of thing. Regards, Rob. On 3 Mar 2009, at 09:47, joe butler wrote: > Jeremy if you can back up you childish comments please do. > I'm sure my solicitors will pleased to set you straight. From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Tue Mar 3 12:58:19 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:58:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal Message-ID: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are visible on my iMac. There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a "Default" to return to. To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what name? I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the Appearance System Preferences. Help gratefully received, thank you. Anthony From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 3 13:21:34 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:21:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal In-Reply-To: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> References: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> Hello Anthony Do you mean Print Preview in iCal? You don't say how severe your visual impairment is - have you investigated Universal Access in System Preferences which permits zooming and contrast adjustment? May be a bit drastic, but could perhaps help you. FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has had, fine grey dividing lines for me. Robbie On 3 Mar 2009, at 12:58, Anthony Brahams wrote: When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are visible on my iMac. There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a "Default" to return to. To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what name? I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the Appearance System Preferences. Help gratefully received, thank you. Anthony_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Tue Mar 3 13:22:15 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:22:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:33, Martin Fry wrote: > Has anyone tried to re-photograph Colour Negatives? > When they are inverted to positive they come out blue! > How can I overcome this except by making them Black & White? Only being an amateur photographer I am probably missing something here but why can't you scan the negative? Paul C From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 3 13:28:12 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:28:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> The on-line Apple Stores are currently down for updating - it looks like some hardware updates are coming today. We should find out exactly what shortly. Paul On 2 Mar 2009, at 22:08, Paul Durrant wrote: > The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model numbers > and specifications. > > It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced > tomorrow. From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 13:39:44 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:39:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: store has just this moment come back. looks like new mini's, iMac's and Mac Pro's On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: > The on-line Apple Stores are currently down for updating - it looks like > some hardware updates are coming today. We should find out exactly what > shortly. > > Paul > > On 2 Mar 2009, at 22:08, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model numbers and >> specifications. >> >> It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced tomorrow. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 3 14:00:15 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:00:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Yes, new Mac Minis, iMacs, Mac Pros, Airport Extreme, Time Capsule, and I think a new keyboard - a wired version of the small bluetooth keyboard. In general it seems that everythign is more expensive. Low end models have been dropped, and the new low end is the same price or a little more than the old second level ones it's equivalent to. If you're looking for an inexpensive Mac, refurbs of the old low-end models seem your best bet. If you were looking at one of the higher models, these new ones are better, but a little more expensive. They've dropped the base 20" model 20" 2.4GHz iMac was ?782, dropped. low end is now the 20" 2.66GHz iMac, ?949, up ?20 over previous 20" 2.66GHz model Rest of iMacs are 24", 2.66, 2.93 and 3.06 with various video cards ?1199, ?1499, ?1799. High end iMac is now a lot more expensive than previous high end. Mac Pro now uses "Nehalem" processors, but prices are generally up. Standard config is now 2.66GHz 4 core for ?1899 (was 2.8GHz 8 core for ?1712). Eight core model is now 2.26GHz (sic) for ?2499 I can only think that the "Nehalem" processors must be a lot more efficient per clock cycle than the old ones. Mac Minis now both 2GHz and nVidia 9400M graphics. Can support two monitors, have five USB, one Firewire 800, Gigabit ethernet and superdrive. ?499 for 1GB/120GB ?649 for 2GB/320GB Previously were ?391 for 1.83GHz/1GB/80GB and ?488 for 2GHz/1GB/120GB On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:39, Scott Matthews wrote: > store has just this moment come back. looks like new mini's, iMac's > and Mac Pro's > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Paul Durrant > wrote: >> The on-line Apple Stores are currently down for updating - it looks >> like >> some hardware updates are coming today. We should find out exactly >> what >> shortly. >> >> Paul >> >> On 2 Mar 2009, at 22:08, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model numbers >>> and >>> specifications. >>> >>> It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced >>> tomorrow. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 3 14:03:59 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:03:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Looking at the US $ prices, it seems the reason for the higher prices in the UK is the recent large falls in the ?:$ exchange rate. On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:00, Paul Durrant wrote: > In general it seems that everythign is more expensive. Low end > models have been dropped, and the new low end is the same price or a > little more than the old second level ones it's equivalent to. From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 3 14:13:09 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:13:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Paul > Because the negatives are medium format ( 6 cm x 4.5 cm) I only have a 35mm film scanner. martin > Only being an amateur photographer I am probably missing something > here but why can't you scan the negative? > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > www.martinfryphotography.com From rob at atvetsystems.com Tue Mar 3 14:16:04 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: I was holding out for a MacPro but I don't think I'm going to spend ?1900 on a single CPU machine when I could have got a dual quad-core for ?1700 unless I read some pretty fantastic stuff about the performance. Regards, Rob. On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:00, Paul Durrant wrote: > Mac Pro now uses "Nehalem" processors, but prices are generally up. > Standard config is now 2.66GHz 4 core for ?1899 (was 2.8GHz 8 core > for ?1712). Eight core model is now 2.26GHz (sic) for ?2499 > > I can only think that the "Nehalem" processors must be a lot more > efficient per clock cycle than the old ones. From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 3 14:26:08 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:26:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <80EA9762-EE4F-404F-ABAB-1E596FACB904@f2s.com> Most probably due to the exchange rate - Last Summer ?1.00 = $2.00, today $1.40 .. Robbie On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:00, Paul Durrant wrote: If you were looking at one of the higher models, these new ones are better, but a little more expensive. On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:39, Scott Matthews wrote: > store has just this moment come back. looks like new mini's, iMac's > and Mac Pro's > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Paul Durrant > wrote: >> The on-line Apple Stores are currently down for updating - it looks >> like >> some hardware updates are coming today. We should find out exactly >> what >> shortly. >> >> Paul >> >> On 2 Mar 2009, at 22:08, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model numbers >>> and >>> specifications. >>> >>> It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced >>> tomorrow. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Tue Mar 3 14:45:31 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:45:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> Message-ID: <700EE6CB-6E02-47E0-8552-4303C2A74CA0@virgin.net> On Mar 3, 2009, at 14:13, Martin Fry wrote: > Because the negatives are medium format ( 6 cm x 4.5 cm) I only have > a 35mm film scanner. Do you have many to do? My scanner is not a dedicated negative/slide one but the reason I bought it was to do several old large glass negatives. The adapter with it can scan transparencies up to a maximum of 9 x 20 cms. Paul C From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 3 14:58:10 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:58:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: <700EE6CB-6E02-47E0-8552-4303C2A74CA0@virgin.net> References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> <700EE6CB-6E02-47E0-8552-4303C2A74CA0@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Paul I have 40 in total to bring up to 15x10" . Regards Martin > My scanner is not a dedicated negative/slide one but the reason I > bought it was to do several old large glass negatives. The adapter > with it can scan transparencies up to a maximum of 9 x 20 cms. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > www.martinfryphotography.com From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Tue Mar 3 16:01:21 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:01:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal In-Reply-To: <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> References: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> Message-ID: <94F0F4E9-9868-4205-BBE0-7D7B7A2648B8@themagic.me.uk> Hello Robbie Thanks for e-mail. First forget about Preview which I only mentioned as being the means I viewed the ICal screen (picture) I was sent. I am using, in Univ. Access, Black on white with a fairly enhanced contrast. > You wrote, "FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has > had, fine grey dividing lines for me." and that is what I do not > have and cannot find how to get it. I am wary of re-installing iCal > for fear of losing the data which was imported with difficulty and I > do not think I could do it again, intervening program not in > computer, it was a beta and I cannot explore that path. I could > throw way the prefs if I knew where they were. I'd also like to do > that with System Prefs (trash them) but have to find them and know > that it is safe to do so. Finding is not helped by Apple's daft idea > of having many Libraries! Your advice appreciated. Anthony On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:21, Robbie Murray wrote: > Hello Anthony > > Do you mean Print Preview in iCal? > > You don't say how severe your visual impairment is - have you > investigated Universal Access in System Preferences which permits > zooming and contrast adjustment? May be a bit drastic, but could > perhaps help you. > > FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has had, fine grey > dividing lines for me. > > Robbie > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 12:58, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines > dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal > and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on > mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are > visible on my iMac. > > There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen > white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a > "Default" to return to. > > To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have > changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to > trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they > are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what > name? > > I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use > for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the > Appearance System Preferences. > > Help gratefully received, thank you. > > Anthony_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 3 16:30:55 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:30:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal In-Reply-To: <94F0F4E9-9868-4205-BBE0-7D7B7A2648B8@themagic.me.uk> References: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> <94F0F4E9-9868-4205-BBE0-7D7B7A2648B8@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <549B3276-5899-4354-B7F7-4ECA7EE01603@f2s.com> You can always drag the preference file out of the preferences without trashing it - simply leave on the desktop and it will create a new one when restarted, using the defaults. if you don't like what you see, just drag the old one back into the folder and overwrite the newer .... HD > Users > Your folder > Library > Preferences > com.apple.iCal.plist Or, of course, create a new user and login with that to see what happens ..... Robbie On 3 Mar 2009, at 16:01, Anthony Brahams wrote: Hello Robbie Thanks for e-mail. First forget about Preview which I only mentioned as being the means I viewed the ICal screen (picture) I was sent. I am using, in Univ. Access, Black on white with a fairly enhanced contrast. > You wrote, "FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has > had, fine grey dividing lines for me." and that is what I do not > have and cannot find how to get it. I am wary of re-installing iCal > for fear of losing the data which was imported with difficulty and I > do not think I could do it again, intervening program not in > computer, it was a beta and I cannot explore that path. I could > throw way the prefs if I knew where they were. I'd also like to do > that with System Prefs (trash them) but have to find them and know > that it is safe to do so. Finding is not helped by Apple's daft idea > of having many Libraries! Your advice appreciated. Anthony On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:21, Robbie Murray wrote: > Hello Anthony > > Do you mean Print Preview in iCal? > > You don't say how severe your visual impairment is - have you > investigated Universal Access in System Preferences which permits > zooming and contrast adjustment? May be a bit drastic, but could > perhaps help you. > > FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has had, fine grey > dividing lines for me. > > Robbie > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 12:58, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines > dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal > and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on > mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are > visible on my iMac. > > There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen > white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a > "Default" to return to. > > To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have > changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to > trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they > are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what > name? > > I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use > for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the > Appearance System Preferences. > > Help gratefully received, thank you. > > Anthony_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Tue Mar 3 17:31:55 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:31:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: <80EA9762-EE4F-404F-ABAB-1E596FACB904@f2s.com> References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> <80EA9762-EE4F-404F-ABAB-1E596FACB904@f2s.com> Message-ID: Given that Canon and Nikon kit prices in some instances have gone stratospheric for similar reasons its a bit of a no brainer. I don't think things are going to change in a hurry either. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:26, Robbie Murray wrote: > Most probably due to the exchange rate - Last Summer ?1.00 = $2.00, > today $1.40 .. > > > Robbie > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:00, Paul Durrant wrote: > If you were looking at one of the higher models, these new ones are > better, but a little more expensive. > > > > > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:39, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> store has just this moment come back. looks like new mini's, iMac's >> and Mac Pro's >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Paul Durrant >> wrote: >>> The on-line Apple Stores are currently down for updating - it >>> looks like >>> some hardware updates are coming today. We should find out exactly >>> what >>> shortly. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 2 Mar 2009, at 22:08, Paul Durrant wrote: >>> >>>> The rumours are suddenly flying thick and fast, with model >>>> numbers and >>>> specifications. >>>> >>>> It looks like the updates Mac Mini and iMac might be announced >>>> tomorrow. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :wq >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Tue Mar 3 17:35:01 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:35:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Colour Negs In-Reply-To: References: <2b70ae9b875a994ad4abf091f8a3f549@virgin.net> <9A63BD0C-F234-4320-A899-F5D3B26B0930@virgin.net> <700EE6CB-6E02-47E0-8552-4303C2A74CA0@virgin.net> Message-ID: <8FFDB034-7089-4887-9822-17944D7B60B2@zen.co.uk> You could scan at maximum resolution using a flat bed instead and then use Photoshop - should get to 15 x 10 easily Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 3 Mar 2009, at 14:58, Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Paul > > I have 40 in total to bring up to 15x10" . > > Regards > > Martin > > >> My scanner is not a dedicated negative/slide one but the reason I >> bought it was to do several old large glass negatives. The adapter >> with it can scan transparencies up to a maximum of 9 x 20 cms. >> >> Paul C >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Tue Mar 3 17:42:19 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:42:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal In-Reply-To: <549B3276-5899-4354-B7F7-4ECA7EE01603@f2s.com> References: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> <94F0F4E9-9868-4205-BBE0-7D7B7A2648B8@themagic.me.uk> <549B3276-5899-4354-B7F7-4ECA7EE01603@f2s.com> Message-ID: Thanks. Removed iCal prefs and re-started. No change?no lines. I;d like to remove or delete the Prefs. affected by "Appearance", the first icon on the System Prefs screen. Which file whre, please? Anthony On 3 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Robbie Murray wrote: > You can always drag the preference file out of the preferences > without trashing it - simply leave on the desktop and it will create > a new one when restarted, using the defaults. > > if you don't like what you see, just drag the old one back into the > folder and overwrite the newer .... > > > HD > Users > Your folder > Library > Preferences > > com.apple.iCal.plist > > > Or, of course, create a new user and login with that to see what > happens ..... > > > Robbie > > > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 16:01, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > Hello Robbie > > Thanks for e-mail. > > First forget about Preview which I only mentioned as being the means > I viewed the ICal screen (picture) I was sent. > > I am using, in Univ. Access, Black on white with a fairly enhanced > contrast. > >> You wrote, "FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has >> had, fine grey dividing lines for me." and that is what I do not >> have and cannot find how to get it. I am wary of re-installing iCal >> for fear of losing the data which was imported with difficulty and >> I do not think I could do it again, intervening program not in >> computer, it was a beta and I cannot explore that path. I could >> throw way the prefs if I knew where they were. I'd also like to do >> that with System Prefs (trash them) but have to find them and know >> that it is safe to do so. Finding is not helped by Apple's daft >> idea of having many Libraries! > > Your advice appreciated. > > Anthony > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:21, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> Hello Anthony >> >> Do you mean Print Preview in iCal? >> >> You don't say how severe your visual impairment is - have you >> investigated Universal Access in System Preferences which permits >> zooming and contrast adjustment? May be a bit drastic, but could >> perhaps help you. >> >> FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has had, fine >> grey dividing lines for me. >> >> Robbie >> >> >> On 3 Mar 2009, at 12:58, Anthony Brahams wrote: >> >> When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines >> dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal >> and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on >> mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are >> visible on my iMac. >> >> There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen >> white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a >> "Default" to return to. >> >> To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have >> changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to >> trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they >> are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what >> name? >> >> I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use >> for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the >> Appearance System Preferences. >> >> Help gratefully received, thank you. >> >> Anthony_______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From lizbarnard at btinternet.com Tue Mar 3 18:09:08 2009 From: lizbarnard at btinternet.com (Liz) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:09:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Salutary tale re updates Message-ID: Nine months ago a friend upgraded my PowerBook G4 to take Leopard and bought an external hard drive (?65). In the upgrade process a corroded connector bit the dust and the machine got sent off for a new connector (?150). When it returned it had a buckled keyboard and the spring had gone on the contact flash card inserter (so that has never worked again!). In addition my scanner no longer worked nor did one of my two printers and the other one lost its utility facility. I couldn?t print from iPhoto and Photoshop CS could only offer limited functions. Re-installing the equipment drivers and re-running the software programmes made no difference whatsoever. These drawbacks emerged slowly over a period of time so there was no clear overview of what might be wrong. Eventually I employed a Mac specialist to have a look at the situation (?218). He pointed out that when you upgrade the operating system there is a manufacturer?s time lag before the drivers are updated on peripheral equipment. He successfully downloaded new drivers for printers and scanner. The software programmes I had to buy new to run with the new, more powerful OS (?69 for iPhoto, ?540 for Photoshop CS4). As luck would have it the new external hard drive has never worked and the Mac specialist told me it is broken! Altogether the experience cost me over ?1000 and I don?t notice any significant improvement in the functions I use on a regular basis. I don?t care whether the new OS system is Snow Leopard or a Yeti ? this Mac owner is never upgrading again! Liz Barnard From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 3 19:45:58 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:45:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] no lines in iCal In-Reply-To: References: <9080E885-94A7-4F29-821C-E01C88F47C5C@themagic.me.uk> <255C6994-97DE-49D5-9585-D2154495E9CE@f2s.com> <94F0F4E9-9868-4205-BBE0-7D7B7A2648B8@themagic.me.uk> <549B3276-5899-4354-B7F7-4ECA7EE01603@f2s.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure there is one, as System Preferences are not Applications, and Appearance controls simply the overall theme of the machine. In any case, I doubt this would make any difference to your current problem, ( but I'm happy to be corrected!) Sorry Robbie On 3 Mar 2009, at 17:42, Anthony Brahams wrote: Thanks. Removed iCal prefs and re-started. No change?no lines. I;d like to remove or delete the Prefs. affected by "Appearance", the first icon on the System Prefs screen. Which file whre, please? Anthony On 3 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Robbie Murray wrote: > You can always drag the preference file out of the preferences > without trashing it - simply leave on the desktop and it will create > a new one when restarted, using the defaults. > > if you don't like what you see, just drag the old one back into the > folder and overwrite the newer .... > > > HD > Users > Your folder > Library > Preferences > > com.apple.iCal.plist > > > Or, of course, create a new user and login with that to see what > happens ..... > > > Robbie > > > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 16:01, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > Hello Robbie > > Thanks for e-mail. > > First forget about Preview which I only mentioned as being the means > I viewed the ICal screen (picture) I was sent. > > I am using, in Univ. Access, Black on white with a fairly enhanced > contrast. > >> You wrote, "FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has >> had, fine grey dividing lines for me." and that is what I do not >> have and cannot find how to get it. I am wary of re-installing iCal >> for fear of losing the data which was imported with difficulty and >> I do not think I could do it again, intervening program not in >> computer, it was a beta and I cannot explore that path. I could >> throw way the prefs if I knew where they were. I'd also like to do >> that with System Prefs (trash them) but have to find them and know >> that it is safe to do so. Finding is not helped by Apple's daft >> idea of having many Libraries! > > Your advice appreciated. > > Anthony > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 13:21, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> Hello Anthony >> >> Do you mean Print Preview in iCal? >> >> You don't say how severe your visual impairment is - have you >> investigated Universal Access in System Preferences which permits >> zooming and contrast adjustment? May be a bit drastic, but could >> perhaps help you. >> >> FYI, iCal in month view certainly has, and always has had, fine >> grey dividing lines for me. >> >> Robbie >> >> >> On 3 Mar 2009, at 12:58, Anthony Brahams wrote: >> >> When I have a calendar, e.g. a Month, in iCal there are no lines >> dividing the days. I was e-mailed a page by a friend from his iCal >> and although the lines had been visible on his Mac they were not on >> mine (in Preview). The lines on an Apple Works spreadsheet are >> visible on my iMac. >> >> There maybe other parts of other screens not showing as I have seen >> white where there might have been printing. I cannot find a >> "Default" to return to. >> >> To achieve best visibility because of my eye problem I must have >> changed a preference or setting but cannot find it. I'd like to >> trash the System Appearance preferences but cannot find them?they >> are probably in one of my many Libraries but which? And under what >> name? >> >> I would also like to know, please, what are the best colours to use >> for clarity of visibility in Appearance and Highlight Colors in the >> Appearance System Preferences. >> >> Help gratefully received, thank you. >> >> Anthony_______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Tue Mar 3 21:34:46 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:34:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Salutary tale re updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74CB28E4-5A86-4611-B666-B1586ADA445F@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> My view re upgrades. I upgraded once and once only and there was a problem with the printed that was never fixed. I decide what I need to meet my requirements and by a complete package. I will run it until it starts to be a problem because of age etc. Get rid and start again. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 3 Mar 2009, at 18:09, Liz wrote: > Nine months ago a friend upgraded my PowerBook G4 to take Leopard > and bought > an external hard drive (?65). In the upgrade process a corroded > connector > bit the dust and the machine got sent off for a new connector > (?150). When > it returned it had a buckled keyboard and the spring had gone on the > contact > flash card inserter (so that has never worked again!). In addition my > scanner no longer worked nor did one of my two printers and the > other one > lost its utility facility. I couldn?t print from iPhoto and > Photoshop CS > could only offer limited functions. Re-installing the equipment > drivers and > re-running the software programmes made no difference whatsoever. > > These drawbacks emerged slowly over a period of time so there was > no clear > overview of what might be wrong. Eventually I employed a Mac > specialist to > have a look at the situation (?218). He pointed out that when you > upgrade > the operating system there is a manufacturer?s time lag before the > drivers > are updated on peripheral equipment. He successfully downloaded new > drivers > for printers and scanner. The software programmes I had to buy new > to run > with the new, more powerful OS (?69 for iPhoto, ?540 for Photoshop > CS4). > > As luck would have it the new external hard drive has never worked > and the > Mac specialist told me it is broken! > > Altogether the experience cost me over ?1000 and I don?t notice any > significant improvement in the functions I use on a regular basis. > > I don?t care whether the new OS system is Snow Leopard or a Yeti ? > this Mac > owner is never upgrading again! > > Liz Barnard > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 3 22:01:19 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 03 Mar 2009 22:01:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question Message-ID: Hi I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the backing of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is cheaper but that too is out of my reach financially too. I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which of course has no Classic support. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From tomkershaw at mac.com Tue Mar 3 22:10:07 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:10:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49ADAABF.2060806@mac.com> Simon, If you look at one of the Adobe collections, the price per application is much lower. Tom. Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. > > I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the backing > of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is cheaper but > that too is out of my reach financially too. > > I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is > wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a > patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day > trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? > > I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which of > course has no Classic support. > > Simon > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Tue Mar 3 22:30:40 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:30:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49ADAF90.8050509@davidviner.com> Simon I can't claim to know much (or possibly anything!) about DTP but Scribus seems to be the main open source contender. See: www.scribus.net en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus However, they don't provide any sort of import facility for old Quark files - the reason is here: www.scribus.net/?q=faq/qxpindimport David Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. > > I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the backing > of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is cheaper but > that too is out of my reach financially too. > > I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is > wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a > patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day > trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? > > I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which of > course has no Classic support. > > Simon > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Tue Mar 3 22:55:34 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:55:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon, I have heard a lot of good reports about Scribus. It's free as it's Open source, so it is well worth downloading and looking at. With regard to the question about 'cracking' the 30 day limit on Quark XPress, I think you'll find it's both. Regards Peter On 3 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. > > I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is > wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a > patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day > trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? > > > Simon From dale at ukonline.co.uk Wed Mar 4 00:07:10 2009 From: dale at ukonline.co.uk (Dale Wright) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:07:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/3/09 14:00, "Paul Durrant" wrote: > Rest of iMacs are 24", 2.66, 2.93 and 3.06 with various video cards > ?1199, ?1499, ?1799. Now unless I've missed something here, very very disappointed with the top of the range iMac. Old iMac two Firewire ports, new iMac only 1, yes it's 800 Firewire but still only one! Same speed of Processor as the old top of the range iMac, after nearly a year, they should be ashamed with themselves! Same cache too! Slight bigger hard drive, wow not! Better Graphics, Good. Can now go 8 Gig ram, nothing big IMO with that, but even the main bus speed seems the same! Not sure with that though? New display port this I agree is good. > High end iMac is now a lot more expensive than previous high end. You telling me, was going to buy the new top of the range iMac before the year end, because of lower VAT rates! BUT the higher prices as cancelled that out big time, very very Disappointed here :-(((((( Was hoping the new top of the range iMac was going to be Quad Core chips, this I would have expected to pay a lot more for & would have willing paid for too. But for the old chips, no way!! I understand the exchange rate, but when the pound was at 1 & the dollar at 2, sorry, but I didn't see anything drop in price!!! :-(( Off now to sulk & be sad :-( ATB..Dale A CoCo the Clown Production. [ Spooky RIP 1988-2007 :-( ] From griffy04 at mac.com Wed Mar 4 00:12:10 2009 From: griffy04 at mac.com (David Griffiths) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:12:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Your having a laugh!!! You know using the patcher is illegal, and immoral, its up to you if you decide to use it. Please don't treat me like an idiot, telling me all about your mac experience and helpful knowledge, and then ask such a 'new user' question. If you just want assurance that your not a 'bad person' in breaking the law, then go ahead, its your continence, no one else's, but then again..you already knew that so why ask? Dave On 3 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. > > I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the backing > of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is cheaper but > that too is out of my reach financially too. > > I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is > wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a > patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day > trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? > > I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which > of course has no Classic support. > > Simon > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From griffy04 at mac.com Wed Mar 4 00:14:52 2009 From: griffy04 at mac.com (David Griffiths) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:14:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FE0D627-4A7B-4DB9-B1E5-E2253648A3B8@mac.com> I meant conscience, not continence. I don't think your old enough to need nappies! (mac spell checker) On 4 Mar 2009, at 00:12, David Griffiths wrote: > > Your having a laugh!!! > You know using the patcher is illegal, and immoral, its up to you if > you decide to use it. > Please don't treat me like an idiot, telling me all about your mac > experience and helpful knowledge, and then ask such a 'new user' > question. If you just want assurance that your not a 'bad person' > in breaking the law, then go ahead, its your continence, no one > else's, but then again..you already knew that so why ask? > > > > Dave > > > > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. >> >> I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the >> backing of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is >> cheaper but that too is out of my reach financially too. >> >> I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is >> wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a >> patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 >> day trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? >> >> I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which >> of course has no Classic support. >> >> Simon >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 01:12:01 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:12:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question Message-ID: David I am checking out Scribus right now. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Design Question From: David Viner Date: 03/03/2009 22:30 Simon I can't claim to know much (or possibly anything!) about DTP but Scribus seems to be the main open source contender. See: www.scribus.net en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus However, they don't provide any sort of import facility for old Quark files - the reason is here: www.scribus.net/?q=faq/qxpindimport David Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. > > I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the backing > of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is cheaper but > that too is out of my reach financially too. > > I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is > wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a > patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 day > trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? > > I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which of > course has no Classic support. > > Simon > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 01:18:04 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:18:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question Message-ID: David Of course I knew there was some dubiousness about the patcher, but if it is illegal why haven't Quark stopped it or put a stop and decease order on it? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Design Question From: David Griffiths Date: 04/03/2009 00:15 I meant conscience, not continence. I don't think your old enough to need nappies! (mac spell checker) On 4 Mar 2009, at 00:12, David Griffiths wrote: > > Your having a laugh!!! > You know using the patcher is illegal, and immoral, its up to you if > you decide to use it. > Please don't treat me like an idiot, telling me all about your mac > experience and helpful knowledge, and then ask such a 'new user' > question. If you just want assurance that your not a 'bad person' > in breaking the law, then go ahead, its your continence, no one > else's, but then again..you already knew that so why ask? > > > > Dave > > > > > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. >> >> I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the >> backing of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is >> cheaper but that too is out of my reach financially too. >> >> I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is >> wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a >> patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 >> day trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? >> >> I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which >> of course has no Classic support. >> >> Simon >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 4 01:54:45 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:54:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So what's anyone's best thoughts about a 24inch iMac - seek out the old model or buy an aliMac? Isnt the graphics upgrade worth something? wont 8gb potential ram be more futureproof? Shouldnt I be in bed by now! all the best Brian Dale Wright said recently: > On 3/3/09 14:00, "Paul Durrant" wrote: > >> Rest of iMacs are 24", 2.66, 2.93 and 3.06 with various video cards >> ?1199, ?1499, ?1799. > > Now unless I've missed something here, very very disappointed with the top > of the range iMac. > > Old iMac two Firewire ports, new iMac only 1, yes it's 800 Firewire but > still only one! Same speed of Processor as the old top of the range iMac, > after nearly a year, they should be ashamed with themselves! > > Same cache too! Slight bigger hard drive, wow not! Better Graphics, Good. > > Can now go 8 Gig ram, nothing big IMO with that, but even the main bus speed > seems the same! Not sure with that though? New display port this I agree is > good. > >> High end iMac is now a lot more expensive than previous high end. > > You telling me, was going to buy the new top of the range iMac before the > year end, because of lower VAT rates! BUT the higher prices as cancelled > that out big time, very very Disappointed here :-(((((( > > Was hoping the new top of the range iMac was going to be Quad Core chips, > this I would have expected to pay a lot more for & would have willing paid > for too. But for the old chips, no way!! > > I understand the exchange rate, but when the pound was at 1 & the dollar at > 2, sorry, but I didn't see anything drop in price!!! :-(( > > Off now to sulk & be sad :-( > > > ATB..Dale > A CoCo the Clown Production. [ Spooky RIP 1988-2007 :-( ] > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 4 08:18:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:18:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Design Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Because that's impossible to do for torrents? (I'm assuming the patcher is available in a torrent.) If there was someone openly operating a website where the patcher could be downloaded, I'm sure Quark would be going after them. Paul On 4 Mar 2009, at 01:18, Simon Royal wrote: > David > > Of course I knew there was some dubiousness about the patcher, but > if it is illegal why haven't Quark stopped it or put a stop and > decease order on it? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Design Question > From: David Griffiths > Date: 04/03/2009 00:15 > > > I meant conscience, not continence. I don't think your old enough to > need nappies! (mac spell checker) > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 00:12, David Griffiths wrote: > >> >> Your having a laugh!!! >> You know using the patcher is illegal, and immoral, its up to you if >> you decide to use it. >> Please don't treat me like an idiot, telling me all about your mac >> experience and helpful knowledge, and then ask such a 'new user' >> question. If you just want assurance that your not a 'bad person' >> in breaking the law, then go ahead, its your continence, no one >> else's, but then again..you already knew that so why ask? >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I am wondering if any of the open source DTP software is any good. >>> >>> I'm a 10 year Quark user, but now I am on my own without the >>> backing of an employer it is out of my reach. I know InDesign is >>> cheaper but that too is out of my reach financially too. >>> >>> I know this might be a dubious question to ask on here and if it is >>> wrong I apologise now. I was looking around the web and found a >>> patcher called 'Antidote v2' which removes the timeout on the 30 >>> day trial of Quark Xpress. Is this illegal or just immoral? >>> >>> I can't even get an old copy of Quark as I am running Leopard which >>> of course has no Classic support. >>> >>> Simon >>> --- >>> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >>> >>> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >>> 10.5 & 9.2.2... >>> >>> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple >>> Mac. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 09:23:37 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Mar 2009 09:23:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Older Design Software... Message-ID: Hi I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have any older versions of Quark and Photoshop. I would preferably like OSX versions but I do still run OS9 so any Quark versions 3, 4 or 5 and Photoshop 5 or 6 would be ok. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 09:25:54 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Mar 2009 09:25:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Scribus Message-ID: Hi Looking around for free DTP software and Scribus keeps coming up. I've downloaded it and had a quick play and read the website. For open source it looks a very good package with a lot of print ready options. I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Is it easy to learn? Is it similar to Quark? I've spent many years on Quark and the print industry so familiar with it's uses/needs and wondered if it was worth getting to grips with this free bit of kit. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 4 11:39:01 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:39:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Scribus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon I have always uses Adobe illustrator for all my leaflets, cards etc. martin > Looking around for free DTP software and Scribus keeps coming up. I've > downloaded it and had a quick play and read the website. For open > source it looks a very good package with a lot of print ready options. > > I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Is it easy to > learn? Is it similar to Quark? I've spent many years on Quark and the > print industry so familiar with it's uses/needs and wondered if it was > worth getting to grips with this free bit of kit. > > www.martinfryphotography.com From tomkershaw at mac.com Wed Mar 4 11:45:34 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:45:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Scribus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49AE69DE.8040809@mac.com> Adobe Illustrator may work reasonably well for single page type leaflets etc. but it isn't really a fully fledged DTP package; where the Adobe option is InDesign. Tom. Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Simon > > I have always uses Adobe illustrator for all my leaflets, cards etc. > > martin > > > >> Looking around for free DTP software and Scribus keeps coming up. >> I've downloaded it and had a quick play and read the website. For >> open source it looks a very good package with a lot of print ready >> options. >> >> I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Is it easy to >> learn? Is it similar to Quark? I've spent many years on Quark and the >> print industry so familiar with it's uses/needs and wondered if it >> was worth getting to grips with this free bit of kit. >> >> > > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 12:45:02 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Mar 2009 12:45:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Scribus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Illustrator isn't really a DTP program. It is not suited for multiple pages and proper text flowing. I've used Quark for 100 page documents with text flowing between each page. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 4 2009, Martin Fry wrote: Hi Simon I have always uses Adobe illustrator for all my leaflets, cards etc. martin > Looking around for free DTP software and Scribus keeps coming up. I've > downloaded it and had a quick play and read the website. For open > source it looks a very good package with a lot of print ready options. > > I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Is it easy to > learn? Is it similar to Quark? I've spent many years on Quark and the > print industry so familiar with it's uses/needs and wondered if it was > worth getting to grips with this free bit of kit. > > www.martinfryphotography.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 4 15:33:41 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:33:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Scribus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Simon Its all really what you want to use it for. If it is to fit in with professional procedures at printshops etc I expect that Indesign or QuarkXPress is a better way in the long run. But if you want to be able to turn out your own flyers and booklets etc you might look at Pages. I think the pdf it exports is probably good for the printer. The investment we make in our self is the foundation upon which all else stands. So shifting sands don't serve anything except the life of an artful dodger! I agree that QuarkXPress is priced beyond the reach of a casual user. all the best Brian Simon Royal said recently: > Hi > > Illustrator isn't really a DTP program. It is not suited for multiple pages > and proper text flowing. > > I've used Quark for 100 page documents with text flowing between each page. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 4 2009, Martin Fry wrote: > > Hi Simon > > I have always uses Adobe illustrator for all my leaflets, cards etc. > > martin > > > >> Looking around for free DTP software and Scribus keeps coming up. I've >> downloaded it and had a quick play and read the website. For open >> source it looks a very good package with a lot of print ready options. >> >> I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. Is it easy to >> learn? Is it similar to Quark? I've spent many years on Quark and the >> print industry so familiar with it's uses/needs and wondered if it was >> worth getting to grips with this free bit of kit. >> >> > > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Wed Mar 4 15:52:27 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:52:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: Basic D.T.P. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FF021AF-D28C-49DC-8167-04FB3D6D534C@mac.com> Another great and very low priced piece of software aimed for the mac user is available from here: http://www.belightsoft.com/products/products.php They have loads of various templates and I understand that you can use a trial version free up to a fixed limit. The full programme costs around $80 I think. Great back up as well. Kelvin Nemo saltat sobrius nisi forte insanit. - Nobody dances sober unless he's insane From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Wed Mar 4 17:46:25 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:46:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Mini/iMac Tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49D808C1-9862-4E63-8A5B-9356F8849FAB@waitrose.com> I'm glad I got mine last month for 25 quid less than the current model. OK it maybe has better graphics but I don't care. One of the best things that ever happened to me (computer wise that is) was when I managed to dismount from the wild horse, of early adopt top of the range, before I disappeared over the horizon. Sorry about the punctuation in that last centince. I jus cud'nt figr it. PAH From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 4 20:01:39 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi Message-ID: <708576.24377.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all ? Hoping someone can help me with this little problem, my partner runs a?10 acre fishery and is looking to get wifi access all over the site. As it is a fishery there is a lot of open water and lots of trees. What would be the best way of going about this? ? Thanks ? Joe From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 20:15:33 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:15:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi Message-ID: Joe You could try wifi repeaters but its a bit area. If it is just for you to use - ie not everyone else - you could try mobile broadband, although pick carefully. If it is the area I think it is coverage isnt too good. You can get 3.6MBps and 7.2MBps mobile broadband, so it is not slow. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi From: joe butler Date: 04/03/2009 20:01 Hi all Hoping someone can help me with this little problem, my partner runs a 10 acre fishery and is looking to get wifi access all over the site. As it is a fishery there is a lot of open water and lots of trees. What would be the best way of going about this? Thanks Joe _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 4 20:23:42 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:23:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi In-Reply-To: <708576.24377.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <708576.24377.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8A62732C-266C-4C8E-9C99-FB9C9B43FD40@durrant.co.uk> Perhaps the Outdoor Wireless Planner here will help: http://www.wlanbook.com/tools/ regards, Paul On 4 Mar 2009, at 20:01, joe butler wrote: > > > Hi all > > Hoping someone can help me with this little problem, my partner runs > a 10 acre fishery and is looking to get wifi access all over the site. > As it is a fishery there is a lot of open water and lots of trees. > What would be the best way of going about this? > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 4 20:24:36 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:24:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi Message-ID: <351075.41445.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> We are out in barford so mobile is not worth the bother, I know very little about repeters so I need a bit of help Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: RE: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 8:15 PM Joe You could try wifi repeaters but its a bit area. If it is just for you to use - ie not everyone else - you could try mobile broadband, although pick carefully. If it is the area I think it is coverage isnt too good. You can get 3.6MBps and 7.2MBps mobile broadband, so it is not slow. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Outdoor Wifi From: joe butler Date: 04/03/2009 20:01 Hi all Hoping someone can help me with this little problem, my partner runs a 10 acre fishery and is looking to get wifi access all over the site. As it is a fishery there is a lot of open water and lots of trees. What would be the best way of going about this? Thanks Joe ? ? ? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 4 23:41:20 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Mar 2009 23:41:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 50 Things Every Mac Geek Should Know Message-ID: Hi Normally I don't pay much attention to the '50 things every Mac geek should know' but I thought I would check this one out. http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/50_things_every_mac_geek_should_know While most were basic Mac knowledge, some were interesting: 9. Spotlight can do sums. 18. You can play Tetris in Terminal. 50. You can play Snake in Terminal. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 5 09:23:21 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:23:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iChat Address Message-ID: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> At the last meeting, we played with iChat over a local network using Bonjour. To use iChat across the internet, you need to have an AIM account or an iChat account. Joining MobileMe gets an iChat account, but costs money. And AIM account is free, but you have to set it up with AOL. You can obtain a permanent, free, iChat account from Apple by filling in the form at Paul From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Mar 5 09:27:17 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:27:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iChat Address In-Reply-To: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> References: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <375992370903050127w2a2feac4t2db4ee0963ff8d5@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/5 Paul Durrant : > At the last meeting, we played with iChat over a local network using > Bonjour. To use iChat across the internet, you need to have an AIM account > or an iChat account. > > Joining MobileMe gets an iChat account, but costs money. And AIM account is > free, but you have to set it up with AOL. > > You can obtain a permanent, free, iChat account from Apple by filling in the > form at > > Paul, That is excellent - thanks for that. Cheers, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 5 09:40:45 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:40:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iChat Address In-Reply-To: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> References: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: I've used Skype, for both family and business communications, ever since it was launched - it's our main inter-office medium, and it has been excellent. The only drawback I know of is the inability to videoconference. Previous versions of iChat were a bit buggy - does it now have the edge? Should I consider it? Robbie On 5 Mar 2009, at 09:23, Paul Durrant wrote: At the last meeting, we played with iChat over a local network using Bonjour. To use iChat across the internet, you need to have an AIM account or an iChat account. Joining MobileMe gets an iChat account, but costs money. And AIM account is free, but you have to set it up with AOL. You can obtain a permanent, free, iChat account from Apple by filling in the form at Paul _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Mar 5 18:51:57 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:51:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac offered In-Reply-To: <49A98C95.2020903@davidviner.com> References: <49A98C95.2020903@davidviner.com> Message-ID: Dear David, When we looked, the only keyboard I've got to dispose of is a white extended Apple USB keyboard, the sort that sits in a transparent plastic tray. Being white, and being mine (!) it's not totally clean but otherwise fine. Let me know if you're interested. Best wishes, David At 19:12 +0000 28/2/09, David Viner wrote: >Hi David > > >What are the keyboards you've got? I picked up an eMac a couple of >weeks ago that came without a keyboard - I'm currently using a spare >PC keyboard but would like to get hold of one of the better Mac >keyboards for it (i.e. not the usual one that comes with an older >iMac but one where the cursor keys are are in their own separate >block like a normal PC keyboard). > >David Viner > -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From fowler.j at me.com Fri Mar 6 09:51:26 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:51:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New desktop range In-Reply-To: References: <657E3554-70A3-40D9-806B-663E4F99261A@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <3DDEC978-4E7C-4F26-9763-751A0810F9D4@me.com> Hi all As your resident apple employee, I thought that you would like to know that PCW is the first high street store to stock the new range. In fact the imac's have hit the store this morning with some great end of line prices on the old machines soon to follow. Supply is very limited as always for the first few weeks, so contact me if you wish to reserve. Jon Apple Solutions Consultant PC World Norwich Sent from my iPhone From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 10:27:08 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 06 Mar 2009 10:27:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad Message-ID: Hi Has anyone seen the new 'i'm so green' ad for the MacBook recently. Why does Apple use the grassy backdrop from the beta releases of Leopard which doesn't appear in the final version? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 6 10:28:59 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:28:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1493C95C-3337-48E3-ACD2-9A974F75D50D@durrant.co.uk> Ummm... because grass is green? Paul On 6 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Simon Royal wrote: > Has anyone seen the new 'i'm so green' ad for the MacBook recently. > > Why does Apple use the grassy backdrop from the beta releases of > Leopard which doesn't appear in the final version? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 10:32:06 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 06 Mar 2009 10:32:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: <1493C95C-3337-48E3-ACD2-9A974F75D50D@durrant.co.uk> References: <1493C95C-3337-48E3-ACD2-9A974F75D50D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I had worked that out myself. My question is, it isn't in the final Leopard, no Leopard user has it unless you have a beta version like 9a466 or 9a499. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 6 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: Ummm... because grass is green? Paul On 6 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Simon Royal wrote: > Has anyone seen the new 'i'm so green' ad for the MacBook recently. > > Why does Apple use the grassy backdrop from the beta releases of > Leopard which doesn't appear in the final version? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 6 10:45:03 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:45:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: References: <1493C95C-3337-48E3-ACD2-9A974F75D50D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <2F12789C-952E-441D-9A95-D168B6E07BC2@durrant.co.uk> Umm... because it's an advert? And grass is green. I suppose you could complain to the ASA that that desktop picture isn't available in the current product, and so the advert is misleading, but I don't think they'd take it very seriously. Paul On 6 Mar 2009, at 10:32, Simon Royal wrote: > I had worked that out myself. My question is, it isn't in the final > Leopard, no Leopard user has it unless you have a beta version like > 9a466 or 9a499. > > On Mar 6 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: >> Ummm... because grass is green? >> >> On 6 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Simon Royal wrote: >>> Has anyone seen the new 'i'm so green' ad for the MacBook recently. >>> >>> Why does Apple use the grassy backdrop from the beta releases of >>> Leopard which doesn't appear in the final version? From brian at clearlight.uk.net Fri Mar 6 12:31:17 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:31:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New desktop range In-Reply-To: <3DDEC978-4E7C-4F26-9763-751A0810F9D4@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Jon I'd like to know a bit more about the 24inch models. The effective differences in usage rather than mere specs regarding the 3 options. So have you a 24 inch in the out of town PC World next to Maplins I could look at? I'm guessing that's where you are? all the best Brian Jon Fowler said recently: > Hi all > > As your resident apple employee, I thought that you would like to know > that PCW is the first high street store to stock the new range. In > fact the imac's have hit the store this morning with some great end of > line prices on the old machines soon to follow. Supply is very limited > as always for the first few weeks, so contact me if you wish to reserve. > > Jon > Apple Solutions Consultant > PC World Norwich > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at vanedwards.co.uk Fri Mar 6 12:46:03 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:46:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Keyboard offered Message-ID: Anyone interested in a white extended Apple USB keyboard, the sort that sits in a transparent plastic tray? Being white, and being mine (!) it's not totally clean but otherwise fine. Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From fowler.j at me.com Fri Mar 6 12:46:45 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:46:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New desktop range In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes I have one of each of the new machines and plenty of the older model. The big difference with the new 20" and the three 24" is the DDR3 RAM. it works twice as hard as DDR2. Jon Sent from my iPhone On 6 Mar 2009, at 12:31, Brian Steere wrote: > Hi Jon > I'd like to know a bit more about the 24inch models. > The effective differences in usage rather than mere specs regarding > the 3 > options. > So have you a 24 inch in the out of town PC World next to Maplins I > could > look at? I'm guessing that's where you are? > all the best > Brian > > > > Jon Fowler said recently: > >> Hi all >> >> As your resident apple employee, I thought that you would like to >> know >> that PCW is the first high street store to stock the new range. In >> fact the imac's have hit the store this morning with some great end >> of >> line prices on the old machines soon to follow. Supply is very >> limited >> as always for the first few weeks, so contact me if you wish to >> reserve. >> >> Jon >> Apple Solutions Consultant >> PC World Norwich >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Fri Mar 6 13:16:08 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:16:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's Message-ID: <9c83344f0903060516o3eb7f863i9c6db85d680a70a8@mail.gmail.com> Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 15:01:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:01:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's Message-ID: Kevin. You need a NAS (network attached storage) attached to your existing router. This would be the easiest way to access your files cross platform. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's From: Kevin Allenby Date: 06/03/2009 13:16 Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 6 15:19:16 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:19:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903060516o3eb7f863i9c6db85d680a70a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903060516o3eb7f863i9c6db85d680a70a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95C31CE9-24E0-4E1C-8065-9FED6EC2FD55@f2s.com> Hi Kevin A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - connects by ethernet to your existing router. Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: it's certainly rock solid and reliable. Hope this helps Robbie On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From hughmorgan at turrethouse.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 6 15:20:02 2009 From: hughmorgan at turrethouse.demon.co.uk (hugh morgan) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:20:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] repairer Message-ID: From hughmorgan at turrethouse.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 6 15:33:28 2009 From: hughmorgan at turrethouse.demon.co.uk (hugh morgan) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:33:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] repairer Message-ID: To NMUGGERS all from Hugh Morgan One or two people have asked for details of an Apple repairer. I recently had trouble with my G5 hard drive - it disappeared from the desktop and my various attempts to start up again were thwarted by no hard disk being found, repair not possible etc etc. I got very friendly help from Ken Hamer who called and looked at it, took it away and brought it back a week or so later with a new hard drive and having recovered most if not all the contents of the old drive. I was happy with the service and his charges seemed very fair to me. He is at Reymerston (midway between Wymondham & Dereham) and charges an extra ?5 or so if he has to go into Norwich. See his web site : www.backonline.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 15:58:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:58:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's Message-ID: Hi Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it wasnt very Mac friendly at all. It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's From: Robbie Murray Date: 06/03/2009 15:19 Hi Kevin A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - connects by ethernet to your existing router. Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: it's certainly rock solid and reliable. Hope this helps Robbie On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 16:00:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:00:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] repairer Message-ID: Hugh Thanks for that. Quite close to me and handy to know. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] repairer From: hugh morgan Date: 06/03/2009 15:34 To NMUGGERS all from Hugh Morgan One or two people have asked for details of an Apple repairer. I recently had trouble with my G5 hard drive - it disappeared from the desktop and my various attempts to start up again were thwarted by no hard disk being found, repair not possible etc etc. I got very friendly help from Ken Hamer who called and looked at it, took it away and brought it back a week or so later with a new hard drive and having recovered most if not all the contents of the old drive. I was happy with the service and his charges seemed very fair to me. He is at Reymerston (midway between Wymondham & Dereham) and charges an extra ?5 or so if he has to go into Norwich. See his web site : www.backonline.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Fri Mar 6 17:37:40 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:37:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: <2F12789C-952E-441D-9A95-D168B6E07BC2@durrant.co.uk> References: <1493C95C-3337-48E3-ACD2-9A974F75D50D@durrant.co.uk> <2F12789C-952E-441D-9A95-D168B6E07BC2@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <201325BB-015A-4DA6-B5C6-537585A2C41E@waitrose.com> What I'm more concerned about is that they say the whole thing can be recycled. The last thing I want to be thinking about when I buy a new computer is what I will do with it when it breaks down. PAH From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Fri Mar 6 17:45:24 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:45:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> Strange, a few years ago LaCie were predominantly Mac. My son used to work for then and I had stacks ( literally ) of their stuff. I wonder what happened to them? PAH On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: Hi Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it wasnt very Mac friendly at all. It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's From: Robbie Murray Date: 06/03/2009 15:19 Hi Kevin A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - connects by ethernet to your existing router. Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: it's certainly rock solid and reliable. Hope this helps Robbie On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Fri Mar 6 18:05:56 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:05:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> References: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <57221E7E-0D01-42C7-B7D1-0A1E7A3DA1A1@zen.co.uk> I have 3 separate LaCie Drives one old which is 40 gig & cost ?500! And two Big D aluminium types with e-Sata, Firewire 800 and 400 with USB2. Setting up was an absolute doddle and I've no problem whatsoever. I am surprised at Simon's comments. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 6 Mar 2009, at 17:45, Paul Harrowing wrote: > Strange, a few years ago LaCie were predominantly Mac. My son used > to work for then and I had stacks ( literally ) of their stuff. I > wonder what happened to them? > > PAH > > On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi > > Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it > wasnt very Mac friendly at all. > > It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be > changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's > From: Robbie Murray > Date: 06/03/2009 15:19 > > Hi Kevin > > A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - > connects by ethernet to your existing router. > > Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have > a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to > be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included > software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. > > It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: > > http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 > > Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. > We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these > days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and > CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: > it's certainly rock solid and reliable. > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > > > > > On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: > > Hi all > > In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked > together > (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. > > I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared > external > drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files > etc. > > As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be > straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the > hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone > out > there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or > advise? > Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked > to > the hard drive - does that make sense? > > Cheers > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Fri Mar 6 18:10:51 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:10:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> References: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <3BF07F69-6EDA-4602-8F66-C23171BFF095@mac.com> I have a Lacie external hard drive as my back up drive and it has never caused any problems. it is quiet and you wouldn't know it was there. Min On 6 Mar 2009, at 17:456 Mar 2009, Paul Harrowing wrote: > Strange, a few years ago LaCie were predominantly Mac. My son used > to work for then and I had stacks ( literally ) of their stuff. I > wonder what happened to them? > > PAH > > On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi > > Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it > wasnt very Mac friendly at all. > > It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be > changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's > From: Robbie Murray > Date: 06/03/2009 15:19 > > Hi Kevin > > A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - > connects by ethernet to your existing router. > > Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have > a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to > be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included > software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. > > It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: > > http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 > > Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. > We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these > days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and > CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: > it's certainly rock solid and reliable. > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > > > > > On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: > > Hi all > > In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked > together > (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. > > I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared > external > drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files > etc. > > As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be > straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the > hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone > out > there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or > advise? > Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked > to > the hard drive - does that make sense? > > Cheers > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 6 18:11:58 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:11:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> References: <9C67B073-E6AE-4921-B7DD-007214C15CD6@waitrose.com> Message-ID: I can't recommend them highly enough... My D2 Quadra is Beautiful, silent, and worked straight out of the box. We have several others throughout the company, and all are the same. Robbie On 6 Mar 2009, at 17:45, Paul Harrowing wrote: Strange, a few years ago LaCie were predominantly Mac. My son used to work for then and I had stacks ( literally ) of their stuff. I wonder what happened to them? PAH On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: Hi Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it wasnt very Mac friendly at all. It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's From: Robbie Murray Date: 06/03/2009 15:19 Hi Kevin A NAS (Network Storage Device) would probably be your best bet - connects by ethernet to your existing router. Size depends entirely on how much storage you require, but Iomega have a 500Gb model which you should be able to install yourself: appears to be almost plug'n'play - "PCs will find it automatically using included software", and your Mac will should just see it on the Network. It seems ridiculously inexpensive here: http://tinyurl.com/bn3nu8 Also comes with Retrospect, which will automatically do your backups. We used it for years, and it's very good, if a bit left behind these days by more recent backup tools such as SuperDuper and CarbonCopyCloner, but that's not probably what you're looking to for: it's certainly rock solid and reliable. Hope this helps Robbie On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Kevin Allenby wrote: Hi all In our little home office, we have 2 PC's and a Mac Mini, networked together (wired) and we have some of our working files on each machine. I think it would be easier to move all our working files one shared external drive which each machine can access - no danger of duplicate files etc. As I suspect the Mac/PC issue complicates things and it won't be straightforward to install (and for me, who has zero interest in the hardware, anything that isn't plug and play is complicated!) - anyone out there who could install for us (as a paid job of course) and or advise? Someone I spoke to suggests using a Mac Base station extreme(?) linked to the hard drive - does that make sense? Cheers Kevin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allan at dsol.co.uk Fri Mar 6 18:13:15 2009 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:13:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <943CB954-CB2F-491E-82B9-12B27221E13C@dsol.co.uk> This is a bit different from all my experience. Both Macs and PCs share a number of Lacie drives at home while I have set up quite a few sharing Mac/PC scenarios with a number of customers. No problems. Allan Johns. On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: > Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it > wasnt very Mac friendly at all. > > It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be > changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 20:29:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 06 Mar 2009 20:29:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: <201325BB-015A-4DA6-B5C6-537585A2C41E@waitrose.com> References: <201325BB-015A-4DA6-B5C6-537585A2C41E@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Paul What you will do with it is.... give it to me to repair and give another ten years of life. :) Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 6 2009, Paul Harrowing wrote: What I'm more concerned about is that they say the whole thing can be recycled. The last thing I want to be thinking about when I buy a new computer is what I will do with it when it breaks down. PAH _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Fri Mar 6 21:27:42 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:27:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Flower Power imac Message-ID: <58B4BC26-6301-4C59-93E8-38B60C31BAD5@btinternet.com> I took David's advice and replaced the Hard Drive - with an 80GB from Ebay for ?10 and it works - OSX installing now - Fantastic thanks for all the help and suggestions - sorry Simon - you will have to keep looking - 2 on Ebay at the moment 1 in Australia. Heather From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 6 21:44:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 06 Mar 2009 21:44:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Flower Power imac In-Reply-To: <58B4BC26-6301-4C59-93E8-38B60C31BAD5@btinternet.com> References: <58B4BC26-6301-4C59-93E8-38B60C31BAD5@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Heather No worries, glad you got it fixed. Always good to see a G3 still in use. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 6 2009, Heather Tamplin wrote: I took David's advice and replaced the Hard Drive - with an 80GB from Ebay for ?10 and it works - OSX installing now - Fantastic thanks for all the help and suggestions - sorry Simon - you will have to keep looking - 2 on Ebay at the moment 1 in Australia. Heather_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sat Mar 7 00:47:53 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:47:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Networking Mac and PC's In-Reply-To: <943CB954-CB2F-491E-82B9-12B27221E13C@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: my triple D2 250gb worked well for maybe 2-3 yrs then the power adapter started randomly cutting out. 25 quid or so for another is now ok. i used it as a mobile drive for a while and the firewire 400 ports are not so good - any touch of the wire can cause disconnect. the 800 is fine. regards Brian Allan said recently: > This is a bit different from all my experience. Both Macs and PCs > share a number of Lacie drives at home while I have set up quite a few > sharing Mac/PC scenarios with a number of customers. No problems. > > Allan Johns. > > > On 6 Mar 2009, at 15:58, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Stay away from LaCie. We ordered one at work a few years ago and it >> wasnt very Mac friendly at all. >> >> It was supposed to be but it was in NTFS format and couldn't be >> changed which caused problems with copying stuff from the Mac > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sat Mar 7 00:56:00 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:56:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Mac Book Ad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: but greenpeace highlighted bad apple in ways that apple probably felt obliged to appease. sin against environment is to become target of those who wield public opinion. so perceptions are critical. and apple have stepped up to the mark but yes its interesting to be informed that its death will be minimally toxic to the environment before you've even opened the box. regards Brian Simon Royal said recently: > Paul > > What you will do with it is.... give it to me to repair and give another > ten years of life. :) > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 6 2009, Paul Harrowing wrote: > > What I'm more concerned about is that they say the whole thing can be > recycled. > > The last thing I want to be thinking about when I buy a new computer > is what I will do with it when it breaks down. > > PAH > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 7 09:06:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:06:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Swish For Mac Message-ID: Hi A mate of mine uses Swish to create Flash animations. He made the ones on my website for me. There is no Mac version and no plans for one. Does anyone know of any Swish alternatives for the Mac? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Sat Mar 7 19:02:34 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:02:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Leopard References: Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Ken Arnoldi > Date: 7 March 2009 18:57:46 GMT > To: nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > Subject: Leopard > > Can members please tell me what applications they find no longer > work after installing Leopard, eg Photoshop CS 8, Toast Titanium 9, > or even their printers? > > Ken > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 7 23:21:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Mar 2009 23:21:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website Message-ID: Hi I am on an never ending mission to increase the profile and traffic to my website. I am always looking for ways to improve it. Traffic is 60% higher than it was this time last year. I am asking NMUG members for your personal opinions on both content and design. I'd like to hear your thoughts on ways to improve it. I am in the middle of conversations with a couple of companies to write content for it and trading links with big named websites to increase it's online profile. It has taken a while but it is finally taking off and being recognised as a good source of specifically Mac news and articles as well as other technology. With 3000 hits a month and rising I would like to keep this momentum going. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From alan at asw6000.plus.com Sun Mar 8 08:49:52 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:49:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Leopard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Only problem I had was with my HP printer - I had to download new drivers to get my scanner to work , otherwise the upgrade went perfectly regards Alan On 7 Mar 2009, at 19:02, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Ken Arnoldi >> Date: 7 March 2009 18:57:46 GMT >> To: nmug-request at durrant.co.uk >> Subject: Leopard >> > >> Can members please tell me what applications they find no longer >> work after installing Leopard, eg Photoshop CS 8, Toast Titanium 9, >> or even their printers? >> >> Ken >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Alan Williams alan at asw6000.plus.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 8 12:25:34 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 08 Mar 2009 12:25:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Bottom Casing PB G4 Message-ID: Hi Does anyone have a bottom casing for a PowerBook G4 Titanium. I managed to knock my PowerBook off a chair on to the floor last night. Luckily it still works but now has minor damage to the bottom casing - it is buckled in the corner and doesn't quite sit right. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From wjhurst44 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 13:33:25 2009 From: wjhurst44 at hotmail.com (Jeff Hurst) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:33:25 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Bottom Casing PB G4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon, I can get you one on ebay in good condition for about $6. I could get it and ship it to you if you want. I don't think shipping would be too outrageous for a bottom case---and place GIFT on the customs slip might help cancel out the awful duty fees!! Just checking Jeff > From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:25:34 +0000 > Subject: [NMUG] Bottom Casing PB G4 > > Hi > > Does anyone have a bottom casing for a PowerBook G4 Titanium. I managed to > knock my PowerBook off a chair on to the floor last night. Luckily it still > works but now has minor damage to the bottom casing - it is buckled in the > corner and doesn't quite sit right. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Sun Mar 8 15:26:45 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:26:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade Message-ID: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> Hi everyone, having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower Power imac, I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb - I have seen some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used in Servers. Is this no good for the Flower Power ? many thanks Heather From sc at davidviner.com Sun Mar 8 15:55:35 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:55:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> Heather That's good news with the hard drive! This site: www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech Specs" column says PC133). www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz Regards David Heather Tamplin wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower Power > imac, > I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb - I > have seen > some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used in > Servers. > Is this no good for the Flower Power ? > > many thanks > > Heather > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 8 16:23:33 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:23:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? Message-ID: We are looking at a new iMac in the near future and at the same time to use it for the occasional times we use tv. We are using a sky dish using only the free channels. It seems I can plug an Elgato hybrid into the skybox analogue output ? or switch to freesat where I may be able to control everything through the Mac itself(?). I?d appreciate any information or guidance that might help us. We don't like the sky interface. Where we are the old tv type signal is poor and have no guarantee that buying a booster aerial will provide a clear signal. It would be nice to have one screen only in the room and it might be good to have the opportunity to pause rewind and record as well. all the best Brian From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 8 16:57:44 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:57:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] what difference if any with the new 24" iMacs apart from gaming? Message-ID: I don't really know the real world differences between the new iMacs. but I think they are worth buying over the previous models. We are set on a 24inch and hope the glossy reflective screen will not be an annoyance once we get used to it. Slightly different processor speeds and different video cards are the main differences. Jon at Apple/PCWorld suggests that as I don't play computer games ? I wouldn't benefit enough from spending the extra cash enough to warrant the mid range iMac. (I don't see the top range as being compellingly differentiated except by price). I am used to a twin 1.25G4 tower that can do lots of things at once and don't want to unnecessarily limit myself either. I felt it worth sounding you out before going ahead. all the best Brian From sc at davidviner.com Sun Mar 8 17:03:21 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:03:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B3FA59.80508@davidviner.com> Hi Simon One thing that may help is to make sure the site pages are all using valid HTML as far as possible (and, believe me, it's not always 100% possible). This can be easily checked if you use Firefox with the HTML Validator add-on (I tend to use the HTML Tidy algorithm). This will display a green tick on the status bar when a page is using valid HTML - currently your home page displays a yellow triangle instead (which is not as bad as a red cross!) and picks up errors such as the extra tag after the srheader6.png image and where the page end tags, which should be , are instead. The latter error could possibly confuse search engines. Additionally, to feature higher in search engines, the current thinking is that you need to make sure that pages have header tags (h1, h2 etc) in a logical nested order - e.g. something like:

Main title

A sub-heading

Text

Text

etc.

A sub-heading

Text

A sub-sub-heading

Text

Text

and so on. I see that you don't have any h1, h2 or h3 tags on the home page but use h4 for the red headings lower down the page - it might be worth changing those to h2 and adding an h1 near the top. Also, other pages use h3 as the "main" heading tag. Some things will always disrupt full validification, such as needing to use both and to make sure Flash objects display ok in all browsers, and having Google Adverts (which NEVER use valid HTML - grrrr!). I see you are using Google Analytics but are using the older "urchin" tracking - Google now have a replacement for this that has more facilities though it uses a couple of extra lines. I also wondered how many visitors are represented in your 3000 hits/month and what the bounce rate is. High bounce rates mean that people are coming, looking at one or two pages and then leaving again. If this is happening a lot it could suggest that they are not finding the things they are after - if so then maybe your left-hand menu could be rearranged with headings and sub-menu items to make it more obvious - e.g. items such as "Hot Babes" (mmmm Mylene Klass...) should not be in the same "block" as Mac stuff. Hope some of that helps! And please feel free to totally ignore any or all of my comments (apart from the "mmmm Mylene Klass" one, of course ;-) David From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Mar 8 17:28:00 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:28:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <402E73D8-FED4-4CC1-A19B-C38973CF5B2D@durrant.co.uk> The Flower Power iMac is an iMac (Early 2001). It has a 100MHz system bus and takes PC-100 3.3V 168-pin SDRAM. PC-133 memory will work fine too. Crucial are selling the 512MB memory cards for ?46 incl. VAT. Get the CL=2 part. It's the same price as the CL=3 part, but very slightly faster. Paul On 8 Mar 2009, at 15:55, David Viner wrote: > Heather > > That's good news with the hard drive! This site: > www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader > seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech > Specs" column says PC133). > > www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. > > I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz > > Regards > > David > > > Heather Tamplin wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower >> Power imac, >> I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb - >> I have seen >> some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used in >> Servers. >> Is this no good for the Flower Power ? >> >> many thanks >> >> Heather >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Sun Mar 8 17:31:57 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:31:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <9CDA17EB-2F09-4BC8-8B64-0343B6B3D756@btinternet.com> What would happen if I used PC133 in a PC100 imac? I am pretty sure it is PC100 - just curious as to the result ? Heather On 8 Mar 2009, at 15:55, David Viner wrote: > Heather > > That's good news with the hard drive! This site: > www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader > seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech > Specs" column says PC133). > > www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. > > I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz > > Regards > > David > > > Heather Tamplin wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower >> Power imac, >> I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb - >> I have seen >> some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used in >> Servers. >> Is this no good for the Flower Power ? >> >> many thanks >> >> Heather >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Sun Mar 8 17:34:55 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:34:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: <402E73D8-FED4-4CC1-A19B-C38973CF5B2D@durrant.co.uk> References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> <402E73D8-FED4-4CC1-A19B-C38973CF5B2D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <6E842AAC-F579-4835-9A86-2D222BEAC284@btinternet.com> You must be mind reading Paul - I just asked about using 133 instead of 100 - many thanks I would love to get new but too expensive - so I am looking on Ebay and there are 133 modules as well as 100 so my range of possibles has doubled - brilliant Heather On 8 Mar 2009, at 17:28, Paul Durrant wrote: > The Flower Power iMac is an iMac (Early 2001). It has a 100MHz > system bus and takes PC-100 3.3V 168-pin SDRAM. > PC-133 memory will work fine too. > > Crucial are selling the 512MB memory cards for ?46 incl. VAT. Get > the CL=2 part. It's the same price as the CL=3 part, but very > slightly faster. > > Paul > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 15:55, David Viner wrote: > >> Heather >> >> That's good news with the hard drive! This site: >> www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader >> seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech >> Specs" column says PC133). >> >> www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. >> >> I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz >> >> Regards >> >> David >> >> >> Heather Tamplin wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower >>> Power imac, >>> I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb >>> - I have seen >>> some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used >>> in Servers. >>> Is this no good for the Flower Power ? >>> >>> many thanks >>> >>> Heather >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Mar 8 17:48:03 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:48:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <436590f95944980050e28a83aaea7522@virgin.net> Hi Simon > As I had all the images on my website reversed so that my latest work shows up first on page one. The only problem was that all my wedding pictures were also reversed ( Cutting the cake before they got married!) I have a friend building a small wedding website linked to my main site to overcome this problem but she is having problems with making Picture galleries that can show 100's of images in the way that I require. I need about 10/12 thumbnails on one side which when the curser clicks onto shows larger on the upper right and with different sizes and their price linking to Paypal's shopping cart under the picture. She says I should be able to buy these galleries online but I can't fins a suitable one. Any Ideas? Regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sun Mar 8 17:59:36 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:59:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F4EF3AA-6A4B-4E57-B90E-D4207ED06CB1@waitrose.com> Hi Brian, Why do you need to run the TV through the Mac, don't you have a telly? Maybe that's why you're going for the 24" I currently have a Humax PVR which works on Freeview, but I believe they now have a Freesat version of the recorder available. That is what I will get next time I upgrade. The one I have works very well and is a doddle to use and set up and enables me to record, pause live etc. PAH From ricnev at mac.com Sun Mar 8 18:03:17 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:03:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:23, Brian Steere wrote: > It seems I can plug an > Elgato hybrid into the skybox analogue output I'd recommend doing the complete reverse ;-) Richard. From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Mar 8 18:27:02 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:27:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: <6E842AAC-F579-4835-9A86-2D222BEAC284@btinternet.com> References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> <402E73D8-FED4-4CC1-A19B-C38973CF5B2D@durrant.co.uk> <6E842AAC-F579-4835-9A86-2D222BEAC284@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Note that you need 3.3V, non-parity, unbuffered, non-ECC 168-pin SDRAM PC-100 or PC-133 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ290274206376 looks like a good deal - about ?15 including postage for the pair. Paul On 8 Mar 2009, at 17:34, Heather Tamplin wrote: > You must be mind reading Paul - I just asked about using 133 instead > of 100 - > many thanks > I would love to get new but too expensive - so I am looking on Ebay > and there are 133 modules as well as 100 so my range of possibles > has doubled - brilliant > > Heather > > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 17:28, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> The Flower Power iMac is an iMac (Early 2001). It has a 100MHz >> system bus and takes PC-100 3.3V 168-pin SDRAM. >> PC-133 memory will work fine too. >> >> Crucial are selling the 512MB memory cards for ?46 incl. VAT. Get >> the CL=2 part. It's the same price as the CL=3 part, but very >> slightly faster. >> >> Paul >> >> On 8 Mar 2009, at 15:55, David Viner wrote: >> >>> Heather >>> >>> That's good news with the hard drive! This site: >>> www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader >>> seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech >>> Specs" column says PC133). >>> >>> www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. >>> >>> I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> Heather Tamplin wrote: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the Flower >>>> Power imac, >>>> I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x 512mb >>>> - I have seen >>>> some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used >>>> in Servers. >>>> Is this no good for the Flower Power ? >>>> >>>> many thanks >>>> >>>> Heather >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 8 18:41:03 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:41:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: <6F4EF3AA-6A4B-4E57-B90E-D4207ED06CB1@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Hi Paul You've got it - we don't want a separate telly - even though it the current tv is also a secondary screen for my current setup. If we switched to Freesat we would have to point our dish differently - don't know if this is worth diy or paying someone. And then get something like what you are suggesting maybe. all the best Brian Paul Harrowing said recently: > Hi Brian, > > Why do you need to run the TV through the Mac, don't you have a telly? > Maybe that's why you're going for the 24" > > I currently have a Humax PVR which works on Freeview, but I believe > they now have a Freesat version of the recorder available. That is > what I will get next time I upgrade. > > The one I have works very well and is a doddle to use and set up and > enables me to record, pause live etc. > > PAH > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 8 18:48:25 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:48:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's that then? I'm sure you don't mean plugging the skybox into the Elgato! OIr getting rid of the Mac and only having TV! We want only the iMac as the screen in our living room - and to be able to use it also to watch telly - and while we are at it - to pause, rewind and record tv. We get a signal via a satellite dish currently connecting with Sky freeview. If there are options to interact with the TV through the Mac that feels attractive compared to the current sky screens. all the best Brian Richard Nevill said recently: > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:23, Brian Steere wrote: > >> It seems I can plug an >> Elgato hybrid into the skybox analogue output > > I'd recommend doing the complete reverse ;-) > > Richard. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Sun Mar 8 19:42:48 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:42:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was being tongue-in-cheek pedantic - you need to take an arial lead from the analogue (arial) out socket of the Sky box and plug it in to the analogue (arial) in socket of the Elgato hybrid - the Elgato hybrid does not 'plug in' to the Sky box - it can however 'plug in' to a USB port on your Mac. You said elsewhere that you would have to re-point your dish to receive Freesat. I'm uncertain about this - I thought you only had to realign if your dish was originally installed to receive an analogue satellite signal, or if you had a new LNB installed. Is there anyone out there who can give a definitive answer? Richard. On 8 Mar 2009, at 18:48, Brian Steere wrote: > What's that then? > I'm sure you don't mean plugging the skybox into the Elgato! > OIr getting rid of the Mac and only having TV! > > We want only the iMac as the screen in our living room - and to be > able to > use it also to watch telly - and while we are at it - to pause, > rewind and > record tv. > > We get a signal via a satellite dish currently connecting with Sky > freeview. > > If there are options to interact with the TV through the Mac that > feels > attractive compared to the current sky screens. > all the best > Brian > > Richard Nevill said recently: > >> >> On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:23, Brian Steere wrote: >> >>> It seems I can plug an >>> Elgato hybrid into the skybox analogue output >> >> I'd recommend doing the complete reverse ;-) >> >> Richard. >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 8 19:49:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 08 Mar 2009 19:49:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DS Data Rate? Message-ID: Hi The last couple of days my internet connection has been painfully slow. I just check my router which is a Seimens Gigaset Tiscali branded thing and it says: Current DS data rate during last 30 sec: 289.766 kbps I have been watching this over the past few days and it never goes about 900kbps. Am I right in assuming that is my actual internet speed? Is that 28kpbs - as in slower than dial up? If so what gives. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Sun Mar 8 20:26:42 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:26:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c83344f0903081326g7156b78jf3139f46a1a010e5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Simon Some thoughts on your site - I can't comment on the content itself as I'm a very new mac user, but I do have a lot of experience in websites and search engineering, so here goes; 1. I'm assuming you want to be known as and found as, primarily, a mac news and comment site? One of the first problems I think, is that when you first go the the home page (and lets assume it is a visitor who doesn't know you personally, but is looking for mac news, then the top two inches of the screen don't make it clear what the site is about - well it looks like its about simon royal - three mentions of simonroyal in that critical top 2 inches - but not one mention of macs! I would just assume this is a personal blog page and move on - it's not clear enough that this is a mac news site. I would lose the big simonroyal banner and have something like "Mac news, comment and reviews" or similar large, then a smaller strapline saying -" the technology blog of Simon Royal" or similar. 2. The single most important piece of code for the search engines is the page title tag - yours is; Simon Royal.co.uk - computing and video gaming news, reviews, rumours, guides, upgrades and articles as well as my blog Again - no mention of macs at all - this should also be changed to something similar to above. 3. I think the navigation could be reviewed - there are too many, small typed links - it may be best to have a small number of top level nav headings, with drop-downs to take you to more choice - it's a bit hard to find things in a long menu - and will get worse as you continue to grow the site. I would (agreeing with David) lose the 'Hot Babes' in a 'Fun' top level, or if you're really serious about becoming a recognised mac news/comment site, losing it completely and putting on a personal blog (not being 'prudish' here - it just depends on how serious you want the site to be percieved by others!) Anyway, enough ramblings! Cheers Kevin 2009/3/7 Simon Royal > Hi > > I am on an never ending mission to increase the profile and traffic to my > website. I am always looking for ways to improve it. > > Traffic is 60% higher than it was this time last year. > > I am asking NMUG members for your personal opinions on both content and > design. I'd like to hear your thoughts on ways to improve it. > > I am in the middle of conversations with a couple of companies to write > content for it and trading links with big named websites to increase it's > online profile. > > It has taken a while but it is finally taking off and being recognised as a > good source of specifically Mac news and articles as well as other > technology. With 3000 hits a month and rising I would like to keep this > momentum going. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Sun Mar 8 20:30:13 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:30:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ram upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <63BCC75A-2F8B-4608-87EC-4AADA815C04A@btinternet.com> <49B3EA77.3060403@davidviner.com> <402E73D8-FED4-4CC1-A19B-C38973CF5B2D@durrant.co.uk> <6E842AAC-F579-4835-9A86-2D222BEAC284@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Bought and paid for - thanks Paul, new ram for less than the price of 2nd owner How amazing Heather On 8 Mar 2009, at 18:27, Paul Durrant wrote: > Note that you need 3.3V, non-parity, unbuffered, non-ECC 168-pin > SDRAM PC-100 or PC-133 > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ290274206376 > > looks like a good deal - about ?15 including postage for the pair. > > Paul > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 17:34, Heather Tamplin wrote: > >> You must be mind reading Paul - I just asked about using 133 >> instead of 100 - >> many thanks >> I would love to get new but too expensive - so I am looking on >> Ebay and there are 133 modules as well as 100 so my range of >> possibles has doubled - brilliant >> >> Heather >> >> >> On 8 Mar 2009, at 17:28, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >>> The Flower Power iMac is an iMac (Early 2001). It has a 100MHz >>> system bus and takes PC-100 3.3V 168-pin SDRAM. >>> PC-133 memory will work fine too. >>> >>> Crucial are selling the 512MB memory cards for ?46 incl. VAT. Get >>> the CL=2 part. It's the same price as the CL=3 part, but very >>> slightly faster. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 8 Mar 2009, at 15:55, David Viner wrote: >>> >>>> Heather >>>> >>>> That's good news with the hard drive! This site: >>>> www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=imac-g3-slot-loader >>>> seems to think that PC100 speed is ok (though the "Original Tech >>>> Specs" column says PC133). >>>> >>>> www.crucial.com says that PC133 is the correct speed. >>>> >>>> I'm assuming your Flower Power iMac is a G3 600MHz >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> Heather Tamplin wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> having been successful at replacing the hard drive in the >>>>> Flower Power imac, >>>>> I would like to upgrade the ram to the 1gb max - with 2 x >>>>> 512mb - I have seen >>>>> some 168pin PC100 SDRAM but the blurb says it is typically used >>>>> in Servers. >>>>> Is this no good for the Flower Power ? >>>>> >>>>> many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Heather >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NMUG mailing list >>>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 8 23:55:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 08 Mar 2009 23:55:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903081326g7156b78jf3139f46a1a010e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903081326g7156b78jf3139f46a1a010e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin Thank you for that. I have implemented a lot of what you suggested. I still need to rework the navigation section - but I have rearranged them and enlarged them for now. Hope you like the changes. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 8 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: Hi Simon Some thoughts on your site - I can't comment on the content itself as I'm a very new mac user, but I do have a lot of experience in websites and search engineering, so here goes; 1. I'm assuming you want to be known as and found as, primarily, a mac news and comment site? One of the first problems I think, is that when you first go the the home page (and lets assume it is a visitor who doesn't know you personally, but is looking for mac news, then the top two inches of the screen don't make it clear what the site is about - well it looks like its about simon royal - three mentions of simonroyal in that critical top 2 inches - but not one mention of macs! I would just assume this is a personal blog page and move on - it's not clear enough that this is a mac news site. I would lose the big simonroyal banner and have something like "Mac news, comment and reviews" or similar large, then a smaller strapline saying -" the technology blog of Simon Royal" or similar. 2. The single most important piece of code for the search engines is the page title tag - yours is; Simon Royal.co.uk - computing and video gaming news, reviews, rumours, guides, upgrades and articles as well as my blog Again - no mention of macs at all - this should also be changed to something similar to above. 3. I think the navigation could be reviewed - there are too many, small typed links - it may be best to have a small number of top level nav headings, with drop-downs to take you to more choice - it's a bit hard to find things in a long menu - and will get worse as you continue to grow the site. I would (agreeing with David) lose the 'Hot Babes' in a 'Fun' top level, or if you're really serious about becoming a recognised mac news/comment site, losing it completely and putting on a personal blog (not being 'prudish' here - it just depends on how serious you want the site to be percieved by others!) Anyway, enough ramblings! Cheers Kevin 2009/3/7 Simon Royal > Hi > > I am on an never ending mission to increase the profile and traffic to my > website. I am always looking for ways to improve it. > > Traffic is 60% higher than it was this time last year. > > I am asking NMUG members for your personal opinions on both content and > design. I'd like to hear your thoughts on ways to improve it. > > I am in the middle of conversations with a couple of companies to write > content for it and trading links with big named websites to increase it's > online profile. > > It has taken a while but it is finally taking off and being recognised > as a good source of specifically Mac news and articles as well as other > technology. With 3000 hits a month and rising I would like to keep this > momentum going. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 8 23:59:32 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:59:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TV into Mac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Richard Oh I see. You're a one! So I could buy a freesat box first and just find out before going further. More choices - I see- I could use a HD equipped box. Hmmmmm. all the best Brian Richard Nevill said recently: > I was being tongue-in-cheek pedantic - you need to take an arial lead > from the analogue (arial) out socket of the Sky box and plug it in to > the analogue (arial) in socket of the Elgato hybrid - the Elgato > hybrid does not 'plug in' to the Sky box - it can however 'plug in' > to a USB port on your Mac. > > You said elsewhere that you would have to re-point your dish to > receive Freesat. I'm uncertain about this - I thought you only had to > realign if your dish was originally installed to receive an analogue > satellite signal, or if you had a new LNB installed. Is there anyone > out there who can give a definitive answer? > > Richard. > > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 18:48, Brian Steere wrote: > >> What's that then? >> I'm sure you don't mean plugging the skybox into the Elgato! >> OIr getting rid of the Mac and only having TV! >> >> We want only the iMac as the screen in our living room - and to be >> able to >> use it also to watch telly - and while we are at it - to pause, >> rewind and >> record tv. >> >> We get a signal via a satellite dish currently connecting with Sky >> freeview. >> >> If there are options to interact with the TV through the Mac that >> feels >> attractive compared to the current sky screens. >> all the best >> Brian >> >> Richard Nevill said recently: >> >>> >>> On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:23, Brian Steere wrote: >>> >>>> It seems I can plug an >>>> Elgato hybrid into the skybox analogue output >>> >>> I'd recommend doing the complete reverse ;-) >>> >>> Richard. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 00:00:26 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 00:00:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: <49B3FA59.80508@davidviner.com> References: <49B3FA59.80508@davidviner.com> Message-ID: David I have rejigged some of the coding to take better advantage of the h1, h2 thing you mentioned. I tried HTML validator and while nothing major came up, there were a lot of items flagged that were in fact not errors in code and getting HTML validator to 'fix' them would have actually broken a few things. I am using the new version of Google Analytics. I have a 72% bounce rate, a 76% new visitor rate. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 8 2009, David Viner wrote: Hi Simon One thing that may help is to make sure the site pages are all using valid HTML as far as possible (and, believe me, it's not always 100% possible). This can be easily checked if you use Firefox with the HTML Validator add-on (I tend to use the HTML Tidy algorithm). This will display a green tick on the status bar when a page is using valid HTML - currently your home page displays a yellow triangle instead (which is not as bad as a red cross!) and picks up errors such as the extra tag after the srheader6.png image and where the page end tags, which should be , are instead. The latter error could possibly confuse search engines. Additionally, to feature higher in search engines, the current thinking is that you need to make sure that pages have header tags (h1, h2 etc) in a logical nested order - e.g. something like:

Main title

A sub-heading

Text

Text

etc.

A sub-heading

Text

A sub-sub-heading

Text

Text

and so on. I see that you don't have any h1, h2 or h3 tags on the home page but use h4 for the red headings lower down the page - it might be worth changing those to h2 and adding an h1 near the top. Also, other pages use h3 as the "main" heading tag. Some things will always disrupt full validification, such as needing to use both and to make sure Flash objects display ok in all browsers, and having Google Adverts (which NEVER use valid HTML - grrrr!). I see you are using Google Analytics but are using the older "urchin" tracking - Google now have a replacement for this that has more facilities though it uses a couple of extra lines. I also wondered how many visitors are represented in your 3000 hits/month and what the bounce rate is. High bounce rates mean that people are coming, looking at one or two pages and then leaving again. If this is happening a lot it could suggest that they are not finding the things they are after - if so then maybe your left-hand menu could be rearranged with headings and sub-menu items to make it more obvious - e.g. items such as "Hot Babes" (mmmm Mylene Klass...) should not be in the same "block" as Mac stuff. Hope some of that helps! And please feel free to totally ignore any or all of my comments (apart from the "mmmm Mylene Klass" one, of course ;-) David _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From lizbarnard at btinternet.com Mon Mar 9 00:01:07 2009 From: lizbarnard at btinternet.com (Liz) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:01:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard Message-ID: Ken, have a look at my post in Vol 62, Issue 8, topic 3 for last Tuesday March 3rd for a description of all the things which didn?t work for me after installing Leopard. Or contact me direct and I?ll forward it to you. Liz Barnard From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 00:17:15 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 00:17:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Liz/Ken I haven't had anything not work completely in Leopard. A few programs had glitches, but updates were released very shortly after Leopard coming out. Tiger to Leopard has been the smoothest transition from any previous version of OSX that I have experienced. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, Liz wrote: Ken, have a look at my post in Vol 62, Issue 8, topic 3 for last Tuesday March 3rd for a description of all the things which didn?t work for me after installing Leopard. Or contact me direct and I?ll forward it to you. Liz Barnard _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 9 09:57:13 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:57:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: References: <9c83344f0903081326g7156b78jf3139f46a1a010e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c83344f0903090257w5acf7723r7b1cb4e54298caff@mail.gmail.com> Simon - Yes, much better banner - you can now see with the apple logo, that you are in the right kind of place! I assume here that Apple don't mind use of logo and no law suit is pending! ;-) It has also I think, better balanced out the top part of the page. Cheers Kevin 2009/3/8 Simon Royal > Kevin > > Thank you for that. I have implemented a lot of what you suggested. > > I still need to rework the navigation section - but I have rearranged them > and enlarged them for now. Hope you like the changes. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 8 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: > > Hi Simon > > Some thoughts on your site - I can't comment on the content itself as I'm a > very new mac user, but I do have a lot of experience in websites and search > engineering, so here goes; > > > 1. I'm assuming you want to be known as and found as, primarily, a mac > news and comment site? One of the first problems I think, is that when you > first go the the home page (and lets assume it is a visitor who doesn't > know > you personally, but is looking for mac news, then the top two inches of > the > screen don't make it clear what the site is about - well it looks like its > about simon royal - three mentions of simonroyal in that critical top 2 > inches - but not one mention of macs! I would just assume this is a > personal > blog page and move on - it's not clear enough that this is a mac news > site. > I would lose the big simonroyal banner and have something like "Mac news, > comment and reviews" or similar large, then a smaller strapline saying -" > the technology blog of Simon Royal" or similar. > > 2. The single most important piece of code for the search engines is the > page title tag - yours is; > > Simon Royal.co.uk - computing and video gaming news, reviews, > rumours, guides, upgrades and articles as well as my blog > > Again - no mention of macs at all - this should also be changed to > something similar to above. > > 3. I think the navigation could be reviewed - there are too many, small > > typed links - it may be best to have a small number of top level nav > headings, with drop-downs to take you to more choice - it's a bit hard to > find things in a long menu - and will get worse as you continue to grow > the > site. I would (agreeing with David) lose the 'Hot Babes' in a 'Fun' top > level, or if you're really serious about becoming a recognised mac > news/comment site, losing it completely and putting on a personal blog > (not > being 'prudish' here - it just depends on how serious you want the site to > be percieved by others!) > > Anyway, enough ramblings! > Cheers > Kevin > > 2009/3/7 Simon Royal > > Hi >> >> I am on an never ending mission to increase the profile and traffic to my >> website. I am always looking for ways to improve it. >> >> Traffic is 60% higher than it was this time last year. >> >> I am asking NMUG members for your personal opinions on both content and >> design. I'd like to hear your thoughts on ways to improve it. >> >> I am in the middle of conversations with a couple of companies to write >> content for it and trading links with big named websites to increase it's >> online profile. >> >> It has taken a while but it is finally taking off and being recognised as >> a good source of specifically Mac news and articles as well as other >> technology. With 3000 hits a month and rising I would like to keep this >> momentum going. >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & >> 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 9 10:09:27 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:09:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DS Data Rate? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3456096E-87E5-4481-8324-2DE18684F743@afco.demon.co.uk> On 8 Mar 2009, at 19:49, Simon Royal wrote: > The last couple of days my internet connection has been painfully > slow. I just check my router which is a Seimens Gigaset Tiscali > branded thing and it says: > > Current DS data rate during last 30 sec: 289.766 kbps > > I have been watching this over the past few days and it never goes > about 900kbps. Am I right in assuming that is my actual internet > speed? > > Is that 28kpbs - as in slower than dial up? If so what gives. Try for diagnosis. Alan Fry > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 10:46:52 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 10:46:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opinions On My Website In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903090257w5acf7723r7b1cb4e54298caff@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903090257w5acf7723r7b1cb4e54298caff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin I haven't thought about the legality of the using an Apple logo. I am sure they won't mind. I have included a disclaimer on the bottom and acknowledgment of copyright and trademarks. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: Simon - Yes, much better banner - you can now see with the apple logo, that you are in the right kind of place! I assume here that Apple don't mind use of logo and no law suit is pending! ;-) It has also I think, better balanced out the top part of the page. Cheers Kevin 2009/3/8 Simon Royal > Kevin > > Thank you for that. I have implemented a lot of what you suggested. > > I still need to rework the navigation section - but I have rearranged them > and enlarged them for now. Hope you like the changes. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & > 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 8 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: > > Hi Simon > > Some thoughts on your site - I can't comment on the content itself as > I'm a very new mac user, but I do have a lot of experience in websites > and search engineering, so here goes; > > > 1. I'm assuming you want to be known as and found as, primarily, a mac > news and comment site? One of the first problems I think, is that when > you > first go the the home page (and lets assume it is a visitor who doesn't > know > you personally, but is looking for mac news, then the top two inches of > the > screen don't make it clear what the site is about - well it looks like > its > about simon royal - three mentions of simonroyal in that critical top 2 > inches - but not one mention of macs! I would just assume this is a > personal > blog page and move on - it's not clear enough that this is a mac news > site. > I would lose the big simonroyal banner and have something like "Mac news, > comment and reviews" or similar large, then a smaller strapline saying -" > the technology blog of Simon Royal" or similar. > > 2. The single most important piece of code for the search engines is the > page title tag - yours is; > > Simon Royal.co.uk - computing and video gaming news, reviews, > rumours, guides, upgrades and articles as well as my blog > > Again - no mention of macs at all - this should also be changed to > something similar to above. > > 3. I think the navigation could be reviewed - there are too many, small > > typed links - it may be best to have a small number of top level nav > headings, with drop-downs to take you to more choice - it's a bit hard to > find things in a long menu - and will get worse as you continue to grow > the > site. I would (agreeing with David) lose the 'Hot Babes' in a 'Fun' top > level, or if you're really serious about becoming a recognised mac > news/comment site, losing it completely and putting on a personal blog > (not > being 'prudish' here - it just depends on how serious you want the site > to > be percieved by others!) > > Anyway, enough ramblings! > Cheers > Kevin > > 2009/3/7 Simon Royal > > Hi >> >> I am on an never ending mission to increase the profile and traffic to my >> website. I am always looking for ways to improve it. >> >> Traffic is 60% higher than it was this time last year. >> >> I am asking NMUG members for your personal opinions on both content and >> design. I'd like to hear your thoughts on ways to improve it. >> >> I am in the middle of conversations with a couple of companies to write >> content for it and trading links with big named websites to increase it's >> online profile. >> >> It has taken a while but it is finally taking off and being recognised as >> a good source of specifically Mac news and articles as well as other >> technology. With 3000 hits a month and rising I would like to keep this >> momentum going. >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & >> 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 11:33:25 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:33:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions Message-ID: Hi. Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have implemted a lot of them. I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't support IMAP or PHP. I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in getting my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website - or basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. This would also become part of my new email address. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Mon Mar 9 11:39:26 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:39:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is who I use Simon and they are very Mac friendly and support is incredible. http://www.littleoak.net/ Kelvin Youngs http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com -------------- next part -------------- > > I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. > > This would also become part of my new email address. > > Simon From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 9 11:50:49 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:50:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B50299.9000206@davidviner.com> Aha, Kevin beat me to it and, I must admit, his suggestion does sound good! For the past few years I've been using a company down the A140 in Ipswich called PlugSocket (www.plugsocket.com). They do MySQL, PHP, 4 backups per day, good email and phone support etc - they are a bit more expensive than Little Oak, though. I've got several of my customers using them for hosting. As important as it is to know about the good companies, it's also handy to know the ones you should avoid at all costs! The main ones, in my opinion (and experience) are FastHosts (shudder) and StreamLine (who use FastHosts for their servers). Both are horrendous, support is not only abominable but occasionally even insulting! Simon, nice to see that my other email helped. David Kelvin Youngs wrote: > This is who I use Simon and they are very Mac friendly and support is > incredible. > http://www.littleoak.net/ > > Kelvin Youngs > http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com > > >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 9 11:52:34 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:52:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> Simon how about; themacresource.co.uk or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also available as .com the-mac-resource.com the-mac-resource.co.uk Cheers Kevin 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > Hi. > > Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have implemted a > lot of them. > > I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't support > IMAP or PHP. > > I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in getting > my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website - or > basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. > > I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. > > This would also become part of my new email address. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using > Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 9 11:57:40 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:57:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B50434.6000509@davidviner.com> Hyphens are definitely recommended! I read that as "them acre source" the first time ;-) Though that's not as bad as the (urban legend, it turns out) Italian version of Powergen: www.powergenitalia.com David Kevin Allenby wrote: > Simon > > how about; > > themacresource.co.uk > > or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also available as > .com > > the-mac-resource.com > the-mac-resource.co.uk > > Cheers > Kevin > > > > 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have implemted a >> lot of them. >> >> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't support >> IMAP or PHP. >> >> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in getting >> my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website - or >> basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using >> Nokia E71) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 12:35:41 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 12:35:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: <49B50434.6000509@davidviner.com> References: <49B50434.6000509@davidviner.com> Message-ID: David I have a hatred for hyphens. www.themac-resource.co.uk or www.the-mac-resource.co.uk just doesn't have the same look as www.themacresource.co.uk Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, David Viner wrote: Hyphens are definitely recommended! I read that as "them acre source" the first time ;-) Though that's not as bad as the (urban legend, it turns out) Italian version of Powergen: www.powergenitalia.com David Kevin Allenby wrote: > Simon > > how about; > > themacresource.co.uk > > or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also available as > .com > > the-mac-resource.com > the-mac-resource.co.uk > > Cheers > Kevin > > > > 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >> implemted a lot of them. >> >> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't support >> IMAP or PHP. >> >> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >> getting my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new >> website - or basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain >> name. >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using >> Nokia E71) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 9 13:23:48 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:23:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <49B50434.6000509@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <82CA44CD-EA3C-4E6E-9B88-94F3802AFE08@ntlworld.com> Your right Simon, but who on earth would understand what 'them acre source' could possibly mean? Hyphens are good when used properly. In this case, I think you really need the hyphens. Just my thoughts. Regards, Peter. On 9 Mar 2009, at 12:35, Simon Royal wrote: > David > > I have a hatred for hyphens. > > www.themac-resource.co.uk or www.the-mac-resource.co.uk just doesn't > have the same look as www.themacresource.co.uk > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 9 2009, David Viner wrote: > > Hyphens are definitely recommended! I read that as > "them acre source" > the first time ;-) > > Though that's not as bad as the (urban legend, it turns out) Italian > version of Powergen: www.powergenitalia.com > > David > > Kevin Allenby wrote: >> Simon >> >> how about; >> >> themacresource.co.uk >> >> or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also >> available as >> .com >> >> the-mac-resource.com >> the-mac-resource.co.uk >> >> Cheers >> Kevin >> >> >> >> 2009/3/9 Simon Royal >> >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >>> implemted a lot of them. >>> >>> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't >>> support >>> IMAP or PHP. >>> >>> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >>> getting my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new >>> website - or basically my old one moved to a new host with new >>> domain name. >>> >>> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >>> >>> This would also become part of my new email address. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent >>> using >>> Nokia E71) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Mon Mar 9 13:44:33 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:44:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Simon = I really agree with Peter. It took me a couple of seconds to decipher you first suggestion without the hyphens MIn On 9 Mar 2009, at 11:529 Mar 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: > Simon > > how about; > > themacresource.co.uk > > or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also > available as > .com > > the-mac-resource.com > the-mac-resource.co.uk > > Cheers > Kevin > > > > 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >> implemted a >> lot of them. >> >> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't >> support >> IMAP or PHP. >> >> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >> getting >> my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website >> - or >> basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent >> using >> Nokia E71) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 13:53:52 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:53:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Lots of variations on the theme of Mac Resource however there is a very established and popular US site called MacResource. They have a large online store, good Apple news pages and forums. I personally think you should avoid that phrase. Paul C From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 9 13:55:03 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:55:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <9c83344f0903090452r4748ff82qe69cb0723ccff376@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A74D9DE-BFFA-47C6-8016-55BA23B0BFBF@f2s.com> There was a lad in my class at Primary School named Thema Cresource. I think his father was Greek ..... Robbie On 9 Mar 2009, at 13:44, Min Kennison wrote: Simon = I really agree with Peter. It took me a couple of seconds to decipher you first suggestion without the hyphens MIn On 9 Mar 2009, at 11:529 Mar 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: > Simon > > how about; > > themacresource.co.uk > > or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also > available as > .com > > the-mac-resource.com > the-mac-resource.co.uk > > Cheers > Kevin > > > > 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >> implemted a >> lot of them. >> >> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't >> support >> IMAP or PHP. >> >> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >> getting >> my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website >> - or >> basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent >> using >> Nokia E71) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 9 13:55:32 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:55:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <49B50434.6000509@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <49B51FD4.3000101@davidviner.com> Simon Re: hyphens. In general I don't like them either. It's better to think of a domain name that is unambiguous in the first place (and, of course, is actually available!). One thing about domain names, though, is that they're *not* case sensitive so displaying it on screen as: www.theMacResource.co.uk will both look and work fine (though both Firefox 3 and IE7 will convert the whole name to lower case in the address bar). I see that www.themacresource.com has already been taken. Not that the front page is exactly up to date as it has a link that says "Click here for a look at Tiger's new features"!!! David > David > > I have a hatred for hyphens. > > www.themac-resource.co.uk or www.the-mac-resource.co.uk just doesn't > have the same look as www.themacresource.co.uk > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 9 2009, David Viner wrote: > > Hyphens are definitely recommended! I read that as > "them acre source" > the first time ;-) > > Though that's not as bad as the (urban legend, it turns out) Italian > version of Powergen: www.powergenitalia.com > > David > > Kevin Allenby wrote: >> Simon >> >> how about; >> >> themacresource.co.uk >> >> or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also available as >> .com >> >> the-mac-resource.com >> the-mac-resource.co.uk >> >> Cheers >> Kevin >> >> >> >> 2009/3/9 Simon Royal >> >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >>> implemted a lot of them. >>> >>> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't >>> support >>> IMAP or PHP. >>> >>> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >>> getting my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new >>> website - or basically my old one moved to a new host with new >>> domain name. >>> >>> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >>> >>> This would also become part of my new email address. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using >>> Nokia E71) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 14:09:17 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 14:09:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Min What about themac-resource.co.uk Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, Min Kennison wrote: Simon = I really agree with Peter. It took me a couple of seconds to decipher you first suggestion without the hyphens MIn On 9 Mar 2009, at 11:529 Mar 2009, Kevin Allenby wrote: > Simon > > how about; > > themacresource.co.uk > > or with hyphens (which also makes it more readable) is also > available as > .com > > the-mac-resource.com > the-mac-resource.co.uk > > Cheers > Kevin > > > > 2009/3/9 Simon Royal > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you all for your suggestions/advice on my website. I have >> implemted a >> lot of them. >> >> I don't like my web host so I am thinking of changing. They don't >> support >> IMAP or PHP. >> >> I also think using simonroyal.co.uk is part of my slow progress in >> getting >> my website more recognised, so I am looking to start a new website >> - or >> basically my old one moved to a new host with new domain name. >> >> I want a Mac based domain name and am looking for suggestions. >> >> This would also become part of my new email address. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent >> using >> Nokia E71) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 14:09:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 14:09:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Any other suggestions then? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: Lots of variations on the theme of Mac Resource however there is a very established and popular US site called MacResource. They have a large online store, good Apple news pages and forums. I personally think you should avoid that phrase. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Mon Mar 9 14:30:46 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:30:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B52816.1080501@mac.com> Simon, What do you want to achieve with your website? Tom. Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > Any other suggestions then? > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 9 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: > > Lots of variations on the theme of Mac Resource however there is a > very established and popular US site called MacResource. They have a > large online store, good Apple news pages and forums. I personally > think you should avoid that phrase. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 14:59:10 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 09 Mar 2009 14:59:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: <49B52816.1080501@mac.com> References: <49B52816.1080501@mac.com> Message-ID: Tom My new site will be exactly the same as my current site, just under a different URL. Take a look at the my site and tell me where you think it is going. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 9 2009, Tom Kershaw wrote: Simon, What do you want to achieve with your website? Tom. Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > Any other suggestions then? > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 9 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: > > Lots of variations on the theme of Mac Resource however there is a > very established and popular US site called MacResource. They have a > large online store, good Apple news pages and forums. I personally > think you should avoid that phrase. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 9 15:12:41 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:12:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain Suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <49B52816.1080501@mac.com> Message-ID: <49B531E9.8090408@davidviner.com> Simon How about: www.royalmacs.co.uk/com (royalmac.com is taken though royalmac.co.uk is still free) www.royalmacresource.co.uk/com www.royalmacresources.co.uk/com The last two read less ambiguously (to me, anyway) than "themacresource". David From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Mar 9 15:39:23 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:39:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine Message-ID: My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I assume the disk is irrecoverable. However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine on an external disk So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on this) to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on MacBook 2. Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, Library etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which is what I want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily lose. I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the Recover folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read the system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active System.. or will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how can I do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these boot on an Intel machine. -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 15:39:07 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:39:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08415fe2b5e9b9d1820124756a83a031@virgin.net> Hi all I am looking to move my site to another host, How do I find out how big my site is so that I know what package to go for? Also as my site is database run does this make a difference to the hosting services I need? Martin www.martinfryphotography.com > http://www.littleoak.net/ > From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 15:49:54 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:49:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain In-Reply-To: <08415fe2b5e9b9d1820124756a83a031@virgin.net> References: <08415fe2b5e9b9d1820124756a83a031@virgin.net> Message-ID: Martin, your current host may have a control panel, which will tell you how much space your site is using. Failing that you could just download the entire site and use 'get info' from within Finder to find out how big it is. Your new host will need database support too, I'm guessing that as your site is coded in PHP there's a 99.9% chance that it's a mysql database doing the hard work in the background. Most hosts that offer PHP hosting will also offer mysql databases, so you shouldn't have too much bother finding a compatible host. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > > Hi all > > I am looking to move my site to another host, How do I find out how big my > site is so that I know what package to go for? > > Also as my site is database run does this make a difference to the hosting > services I need? > > Martin > > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > >> http://www.littleoak.net/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 17:01:36 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:01:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 Message-ID: <313d66c10a442f39fa3efb68a012ab59@virgin.net> I have a friend who wishes to sell the following. Power mac G4 tower. 500 mh cpu. 1 gb Ram. 40 gig H/d. O/s 10.4.11. he wants 150 pounds for it Regards martin www.martinfryphotography.com From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 9 17:20:22 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:20:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Domain In-Reply-To: <08415fe2b5e9b9d1820124756a83a031@virgin.net> Message-ID: Well if your web developer cant tell you - get a directory listing via FTP and select the public html directory and get info - or select everything in it and get info - my FTP application Interarchy offers a calculate option in the info window for the size. I expect this is normal in any other such application. Yes - but any serious hosting package worth anything should offer full PHP and Control Panel to set up and maintain databases. You will need advice from someone who knows about your site's setup if you are not using the site's developer re upload to the new servers. It should be trivial to upgrade your package with any hosting company - so if it turned out you needed the next package up - it should be a simple and virtually immediate thing to effect. For hosting beyond the personal site I recommend and use Clook. http://www.clook.info If what you are doing is a business venture it may not be wise to be with a one man reseller even if they are excellent - because things happen to one man bands that they cant help and you need 24/7 support. I have a reseller account with Clook and host some clients myself - but it isn't something I can offer with the degree of support that a direct account with Clook offer so I usually set up clients with their own account. Have a look at the help and support section at Clook - none of which is in your face trying to persuade you to buy or use your ignorance to unsettle you into buying anything. Though their support is via online ticket and email I have always had immediate and effective support at any time of day when any issues with my clients has arisen. I also recommend http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk This is a (helpful) smaller concern but is a team and not just one bloke. But the exact details of the way in which your web site is working may well influence the choice you make. With static sites one only has to change the domain nameservers to point to the new host servers and then move or re upload the site files to the new server. But you have database(s) and scripts that may or may not just work if they are moved. I haven't dealt with database driven sites so I cant offer much - but look before you leap. all the best Brian Martin Fry said recently: > > Hi all > > I am looking to move my site to another host, How do I find out how big > my site is so that I know what package to go for? > > Also as my site is database run does this make a difference to the > hosting services I need? > > Martin > > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > >> http://www.littleoak.net/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 9 17:23:09 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:23:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] database driven sites Message-ID: I?d like to be able to keep a database or at least spreadsheet on HD and export that to an online database that could then be called up in various ways by different criteria. I don't really want to learn PHP, MySQL etc in order to do it - but that looks like the only way in ? is this so? regards Brian From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 9 17:35:04 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:35:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not up to date with Time Machine but I don't believe it will do what you seek. You can clone a system to another disk or volume and this looks like what you want - but first back up any data on the target Mac because cloning erases the target before copying the whole system and data over. If the disk is dead - you cant now clone it - so you don't have that option this time. I don't know if there are any migrating options from Time Machine backups - but you could open Migration assistant and see if it sees any from the TM Disk. Migrating data can import - according to selection - applications, user accounts network settings. Unlike system 9 and before you cant - as far as I know on Mac OSX - bless a system and make it the bootable one. You can move things from the old to the new but this is silly compared to just reinstalling as it is difficult to be aware of all the files required. If there was a specific thing that you cant reinstall then there might be a way of getting the files across from one system to the other as a last resort. So though I could be wrong I sense you'll have to be content with your own data salvaged and just update or reinstall that system to get it to where you want it to be. I think these days that reinstalling a system and discarding the old is not so unusual a procedure compared to exhaustive detective work as troubleshooter. But using SuperDuper or CCC to clone a state of a system can be an excellent bootable fallback that Time Machine may complement but doesn't replicate. hope this helps regards Brian Stefan Youngs said recently: > My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I assume the > disk is irrecoverable. > However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine on an > external disk > > So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on this) > to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on MacBook > 2. > > > Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, Library > etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which is what I > want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily lose. > > I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the Recover > folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read the > system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active System.. or > will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how can I > do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these boot on > an Intel machine. > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 9 17:39:16 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:39:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91DB2362-0E6B-43B1-91C9-8D0D98B113F0@durrant.co.uk> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15638.html which says: To recover your entire system: 1. Connect your Time Machine backup disk to your computer. If you?re restoring your system because of a problem with your startup disk, make sure the disk has been repaired or replaced. 2. Insert your Mac OS X Install disk, and double-click the Install Mac OS X icon. 3. In the Installer, choose Utilities > Restore System from Backup. 4. In the Restore Your System dialog, click Continue. 5. Select your Time Machine backup volume. 6. Select the Time Machine backup you want to restore. 7. Follow the onscreen instructions. regards, Paul On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:39, Stefan Youngs wrote: > My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I > assume the > disk is irrecoverable. > However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine > on an > external disk > > So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on > this) > to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on > MacBook > 2. > > > Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, > Library > etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which > is what I > want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily > lose. > > I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the Recover > folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read > the > system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active > System.. or > will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how > can I > do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these > boot on > an Intel machine. > From email at johnstephens.me.uk Mon Mar 9 17:46:07 2009 From: email at johnstephens.me.uk (John Stephens) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:46:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Webhosts Message-ID: Hi Martin, I too have not been happy with my current hosts. I was recommended a company called www.34sp.com by a friend of mine who is a web designer at the BBC. I'm in the process of switching my sites to them, I'll let you know how I get on. They seem quite cheap and have lots of features like databases (which I see you will need) as standard - unlike my old hosts who charge quite a lot extra to provide that service. Hope it all works out JS -- John Stephens Email: email at johnstephens.me.uk JS Music Services Ltd www.jsmusicservices.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 9 17:46:02 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:46:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 In-Reply-To: <313d66c10a442f39fa3efb68a012ab59@virgin.net> References: <313d66c10a442f39fa3efb68a012ab59@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9107987F-7AE8-4228-BA72-87046EDF0A54@durrant.co.uk> He's unlikely to get that much. ?50 would be a good price. He might be better off selling the OS X 10.4 separately if it's proper install disks. Looking at completed auctions on ebay is a good way to find out what price things are fetching. Paul On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:01, Martin Fry wrote: > I have a friend who wishes to sell the following. > > Power mac G4 tower. > > 500 mh cpu. > 1 gb Ram. > 40 gig H/d. > O/s 10.4.11. > > he wants 150 pounds for it From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 9 17:48:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:48:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 Message-ID: Martin I think that is a bit over priced. You are probably looked at about ?75. I bought a 400mhz PowerMac G4, 10GB hard drive and 512MB RAM for ?20 a few months ago. Even stacked with 40GB hard drive and 768MB of RAM I only got ?40 for it. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 From: Martin Fry Date: 09/03/2009 17:03 I have a friend who wishes to sell the following. Power mac G4 tower. 500 mh cpu. 1 gb Ram. 40 gig H/d. O/s 10.4.11. he wants 150 pounds for it Regards martin www.martinfryphotography.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From johnjarman at mac.com Mon Mar 9 17:54:12 2009 From: johnjarman at mac.com (John Jarman) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:54:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG posting Message-ID: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> Re: Problem with Mail crashing: I have wasted a lot of time today trying to get Apple Mail to work again without continually crashing. The error message says this is probably caused by Growl but getting rid of this very useful plug in did not help. Eventually I went to the Growl forum and discovered that the fault is with the Safari 4 beta that I installed yesterday. I uninstalled it and it automatically goes back to Safari 3. Mail is now completely stable again. Thats the last time that i install a beta version! From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 18:03:44 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:03:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He has also got an EPSON perfection 3200 firewire scanner to sell. How much is this worth please. martin > I think that is a bit over priced. You are probably looked at about > ?75. > I bought a 400mhz PowerMac G4, 10GB hard drive and 512MB RAM for ?20 a > few months ago. Even stacked with 40GB hard drive and 768MB of RAM I > only got ?40 for it. > > Power mac G4 tower. > 500 mh cpu. > 1 gb Ram. > 40 gig H/d. > O/s 10.4.11. > > he wants 150 pounds for it From penguin.999 at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 18:08:54 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:08:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4/ 500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7485F4A7-5A5B-4510-BCE1-5001F290967D@virgin.net> On Mar 9, 2009, at 18:03, Martin Fry wrote: > > He has also got an EPSON perfection 3200 firewire scanner to sell. Martin, you want this scanner!! That is the scanner I have and the transparency 'window' is much bigger than the normal so you could do good scans of those large transparencies you talked about the other day. Paul C From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 9 18:20:37 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:20:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] database driven sites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not sure if this helps, but we run our entire business on a Filemaker Pro Database which sits on a remote server, and I can amend and develop exactly as if it was on my desktop using my local client. We have 18 Macs & PCs accessing it from 6 locations across Norfolk and Suffolk, but they could be anywhere in the world - I'm currently working on PCI/DSS compliance with a developer in Florida. Our website is hosted on the same server and interacts directly with the database. Whilst we run a dedicated server, the hosting company offers shared hosting at reasonable monthly charges. We've been with them for about 10 years, and the service is excellent - I know all the tech support guys by name, and in the event of a problem, they answer calls within a couple of rings. Filemaker is an Apple Company, like other Apple products is in simple English, easy to learn, and very stable - no code, no mystery. You can build your first database in minutes. More here, but I'll be happy to discuss if you want any help. http://www.hostfilemaker.com/ Robbie http://www.owlbarn.co.uk On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:23, Brian Steere wrote: I?d like to be able to keep a database or at least spreadsheet on HD and export that to an online database that could then be called up in various ways by different criteria. I don't really want to learn PHP, MySQL etc in order to do it - but that looks like the only way in ? is this so? regards Brian _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 9 18:26:01 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:26:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG posting In-Reply-To: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> References: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> Message-ID: <574BE179-EAD1-4C6C-9EC5-EB8B8FA08B1E@f2s.com> I have Growl and it hasn't been a problem, but it crashed a lot of machines when Safari 4 was released. There is a fix if you're happy with Terminal: http://tinyurl.com/d922nb Otherwise stick with Safari 3 .... On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:54, John Jarman wrote: Re: Problem with Mail crashing: I have wasted a lot of time today trying to get Apple Mail to work again without continually crashing. The error message says this is probably caused by Growl but getting rid of this very useful plug in did not help. Eventually I went to the Growl forum and discovered that the fault is with the Safari 4 beta that I installed yesterday. I uninstalled it and it automatically goes back to Safari 3. Mail is now completely stable again. Thats the last time that i install a beta version! _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From andrew.nunn at btinternet.com Mon Mar 9 18:26:53 2009 From: andrew.nunn at btinternet.com (Andrew Nunn) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:26:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG posting In-Reply-To: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> References: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> Message-ID: <37BF1DE7-6642-450E-8DA6-0EB6DA3B8050@btinternet.com> John, I had exactly the same problem and went through the same process.. Andrew On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:54, John Jarman wrote: > Re: Problem with Mail crashing: > > I have wasted a lot of time today trying to get Apple Mail to work > again without continually crashing. The error message says this is > probably caused by Growl but getting rid of this very useful plug in > did not help. > Eventually I went to the Growl forum and discovered that the fault > is with the Safari 4 beta that I installed yesterday. I uninstalled > it and it automatically goes back to Safari 3. Mail is now > completely stable again. > Thats the last time that i install a beta version! > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Mon Mar 9 18:37:24 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:37:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Webhosts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31351BAE-2340-4E57-8C79-FEB22DCC603E@ruthmurray.f2s.com> A word of warning. If you are tempted by Streamline.net's offer for a free three month trial and, like me, did not read the terms and conditions, beware! After the three months I was put straight on to the Unlimited User tarrif (which I did not need) and it cost me a whopping ?99.99 for two years. I know I should have been more aware as to when the 'free' three months' expired but ho hum. I got well and truly burned. I was trying to find a cheap site for my choir and there was no way I could charge them for my mistake so I put up for the bill! I shall write them several letters to ensure I terminate the contract when it expires in August 2010. Ruth On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:46, John Stephens wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I too have not been happy with my current hosts. I was recommended > a company called www.34sp.com by a friend of mine who is a web > designer at the BBC. I'm in the process of switching my sites to > them, I'll let you know how I get on. They seem quite cheap and > have lots of features like databases (which I see you will need) as > standard - unlike my old hosts who charge quite a lot extra to > provide that service. > > Hope it all works out > > JS > -- > John Stephens > Email: email at johnstephens.me.uk > > JS Music Services Ltd > www.jsmusicservices.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 9 18:58:38 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:58:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Webhosts In-Reply-To: <31351BAE-2340-4E57-8C79-FEB22DCC603E@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <31351BAE-2340-4E57-8C79-FEB22DCC603E@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <49B566DE.9090506@davidviner.com> This is similar to the tactic being rolled out by BT on some of its accounts. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/03/bt_talktalk_contracts/ Ofcom are aware of complaints about this but, no doubt, will be as toothless as usual... Re Streamline AVOID AT ALL COSTS! Same for FastHosts. See my email this morning around 11:50. My hosts, PlugSocket, email me about a month before hosting or domains are about to run out and I pay online without any fuss. David Ruth Murray wrote: > A word of warning. If you are tempted by Streamline.net's offer for a > free three month trial and, like me, did not read the terms and > conditions, beware! > > After the three months I was put straight on to the Unlimited User > tarrif (which I did not need) and it cost me a whopping ?99.99 for two > years. I know I should have been more aware as to when the 'free' > three months' expired but ho hum. I got well and truly burned. I was > trying to find a cheap site for my choir and there was no way I could > charge them for my mistake so I put up for the bill! I shall write > them several letters to ensure I terminate the contract when it > expires in August 2010. > > Ruth > > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:46, John Stephens wrote: > >> Hi Martin, >> >> I too have not been happy with my current hosts. I was recommended a >> company called www.34sp.com by a friend of mine who is a web designer >> at the BBC. I'm in the process of switching my sites to them, I'll >> let you know how I get on. They seem quite cheap and have lots of >> features like databases (which I see you will need) as standard - >> unlike my old hosts who charge quite a lot extra to provide that >> service. >> >> Hope it all works out >> >> JS >> -- >> John Stephens >> Email: email at johnstephens.me.uk >> >> JS Music Services Ltd >> www.jsmusicservices.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Ruth Murray > ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com > > Ruth Murray > Graphic Design and Illustration > 01603 632334 > > Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From allan at dsol.co.uk Mon Mar 9 19:14:35 2009 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:14:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG posting In-Reply-To: <37BF1DE7-6642-450E-8DA6-0EB6DA3B8050@btinternet.com> References: <768F2067-87F0-416B-B84A-2F3EE9653D02@mac.com> <37BF1DE7-6642-450E-8DA6-0EB6DA3B8050@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Odd how this affects some people and not others. I also have growl enabled and Safari 4 beta on 10.5.6 with no problems at all. Allan Johns. On 9 Mar 2009, at 18:26, Andrew Nunn wrote: > John, > > I had exactly the same problem and went through the same process.. > > Andrew > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:54, John Jarman wrote: > >> Re: Problem with Mail crashing: >> >> I have wasted a lot of time today trying to get Apple Mail to work >> again without continually crashing. The error message says this is >> probably caused by Growl but getting rid of this very useful plug >> in did not help. >> Eventually I went to the Growl forum and discovered that the fault >> is with the Safari 4 beta that I installed yesterday. I >> uninstalled it and it automatically goes back to Safari 3. Mail >> is now completely stable again. >> Thats the last time that i install a beta version! >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 9 20:46:36 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:46:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: <91DB2362-0E6B-43B1-91C9-8D0D98B113F0@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: But will this 'restore' to an entirely different system than it was backed up from? Perhaps it does! regards Brian Paul Durrant said recently: > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15638.html > > which says: > > To recover your entire system: > 1. Connect your Time Machine backup disk to your computer. If you?re > restoring your system because of a problem with your startup disk, > make sure the disk has been repaired or replaced. > > 2. Insert your Mac OS X Install disk, and double-click the Install Mac > OS X icon. > > 3. In the Installer, choose Utilities > Restore System from Backup. > > 4. In the Restore Your System dialog, click Continue. > > 5. Select your Time Machine backup volume. > > 6. Select the Time Machine backup you want to restore. > > 7. Follow the onscreen instructions. > > > > regards, > > Paul > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:39, Stefan Youngs wrote: > >> My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I >> assume the >> disk is irrecoverable. >> However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine >> on an >> external disk >> >> So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on >> this) >> to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on >> MacBook >> 2. >> >> >> Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, >> Library >> etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which >> is what I >> want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily >> lose. >> >> I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the Recover >> folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read >> the >> system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active >> System.. or >> will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how >> can I >> do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these >> boot on >> an Intel machine. >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 9 21:14:36 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:14:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe so, providing the new system doesn't require newer system software than the old system. In that case you'd need to install the correct system software, and then I think the Migration Assistant will work reading from a Time Machine volume. Indeed, I think with the latest system software, on first boot from the hard disk you're asked whether you have a Time Machine backup to restore from. Paul On 9 Mar 2009, at 20:46, Brian Steere wrote: > But will this 'restore' to an entirely different system than it was > backed > up from? Perhaps it does! > regards > Brian > > > Paul Durrant said recently: > >> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15638.html >> >> which says: >> >> To recover your entire system: >> 1. Connect your Time Machine backup disk to your computer. If you?re >> restoring your system because of a problem with your startup disk, >> make sure the disk has been repaired or replaced. >> >> 2. Insert your Mac OS X Install disk, and double-click the Install >> Mac >> OS X icon. >> >> 3. In the Installer, choose Utilities > Restore System from Backup. >> >> 4. In the Restore Your System dialog, click Continue. >> >> 5. Select your Time Machine backup volume. >> >> 6. Select the Time Machine backup you want to restore. >> >> 7. Follow the onscreen instructions. >> >> >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:39, Stefan Youngs wrote: >> >>> My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I >>> assume the >>> disk is irrecoverable. >>> However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine >>> on an >>> external disk >>> >>> So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on >>> this) >>> to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on >>> MacBook >>> 2. >>> >>> >>> Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, >>> Library >>> etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which >>> is what I >>> want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily >>> lose. >>> >>> I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the >>> Recover >>> folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read >>> the >>> system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active >>> System.. or >>> will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how >>> can I >>> do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these >>> boot on >>> an Intel machine. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 9 21:56:14 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:56:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well that's good news and an encouragement to explore Time Machine. I've been manually synching between a Desktop a Powerbook and an external HD and occasionally to DVDRam so that I have most things not too far from each other and have been wondering whether Time Machine is worth using for a few Macs to all auto back up into. (My partner's and my daughter's - as well as my own. One question - does this use up bandwidth for wireless connected Macs and interfere with performance? (Or be limited to when plugged into Ethernet?) Maybe I should just read up on it a bit! all the best Brian Paul Durrant said recently: > I believe so, providing the new system doesn't require newer system > software than the old system. In that case you'd need to install the > correct system software, and then I think the Migration Assistant will > work reading from a Time Machine volume. Indeed, I think with the > latest system software, on first boot from the hard disk you're asked > whether you have a Time Machine backup to restore from. > > Paul > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 20:46, Brian Steere wrote: > >> But will this 'restore' to an entirely different system than it was >> backed >> up from? Perhaps it does! >> regards >> Brian >> >> >> Paul Durrant said recently: >> >>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15638.html >>> >>> which says: >>> >>> To recover your entire system: >>> 1. Connect your Time Machine backup disk to your computer. If you?re >>> restoring your system because of a problem with your startup disk, >>> make sure the disk has been repaired or replaced. >>> >>> 2. Insert your Mac OS X Install disk, and double-click the Install >>> Mac >>> OS X icon. >>> >>> 3. In the Installer, choose Utilities > Restore System from Backup. >>> >>> 4. In the Restore Your System dialog, click Continue. >>> >>> 5. Select your Time Machine backup volume. >>> >>> 6. Select the Time Machine backup you want to restore. >>> >>> 7. Follow the onscreen instructions. >>> >>> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:39, Stefan Youngs wrote: >>> >>>> My hard disk failed in Mac Book 1. This is a hard failure and I >>>> assume the >>>> disk is irrecoverable. >>>> However... I have the entire MacBook 1 disk backed onto TimeMachine >>>> on an >>>> external disk >>>> >>>> So I attach MacBook 2 ( I know, I'm a plutocrat, but bear with me on >>>> this) >>>> to the TimeMachine external and Restore to a new Recover folder on >>>> MacBook >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> >>>> Result: all MacBook 1 is now on MacBook 2 BUT of course the System, >>>> Library >>>> etc folders that are operational are not those of MacBook 1, which >>>> is what I >>>> want. They are the MacBook 2 System, Library etc which I can happily >>>> lose. >>>> >>>> I can't figure out how to make the System, Library etc. in the >>>> Recover >>>> folder on MacBook 2 take control.. is there a utility that can read >>>> the >>>> system info from the Recover folder and write it into the active >>>> System.. or >>>> will I have to boot from something other than MacBook 2. If so.. how >>>> can I >>>> do this? All my external media is USB2.. I can't remember if these >>>> boot on >>>> an Intel machine. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Mon Mar 9 22:56:23 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:56:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39420CBA-EBF1-4E11-A01B-5CBD200494DD@mac.com> Well, as a lot f people are interested in Time Machine and as my little bruvver is not going to let you know about a great article that simplifies what it does - I will send it. Great explanation and in simple terms for us who are not so techie. I have had to use Time machine on several occasions and found it simply superb. Tremendous in fact and has saved my life on several occasions: http://www.atpm.com/15.03/howto.shtml Kelvin Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head. From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 9 23:17:55 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:17:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] database driven sites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robbie > > Thanks for the info but I already have my database driven website > built and have no wish to rebuild it in Filemaker or any other > program. > I just wish to place the site with another host who, knows what to do > if something goes wrong and who does not take 1 or 2 weeks to fix it > when it does. Regards Martin > I'm not sure if this helps, but we run our entire business on a > Filemaker Pro Database which sits on a remote server, and I can amend > and develop exactly as if it was on my desktop using my local client. > We have 18 Macs & PCs accessing it from 6 locations across Norfolk and > Suffolk, but they could be anywhere in the world - I'm currently > working on PCI/DSS compliance with a developer in Florida. > > Our website is hosted on the same server and interacts directly with > the database. > > Whilst we run a dedicated server, the hosting company offers shared > hosting at reasonable monthly charges. We've been with them for about > 10 years, and the service is excellent - I know all the tech support > guys by name, and in the event of a problem, they answer calls within > a couple of rings. > > Filemaker is an Apple Company, like other Apple products is in simple > English, easy to learn, and very stable - no code, no mystery. You > can build your first database in minutes. > > More here, but I'll be happy to discuss if you want any help. > > http://www.hostfilemaker.com/ > > Robbie > > http://www.owlbarn.co.uk > > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 17:23, Brian Steere wrote: > > > > I?d like to be able to keep a database or at least spreadsheet on HD > and > export that to an online database that could then be called up in > various > ways by different criteria. > I don't really want to learn PHP, MySQL etc in order to do it - but > that > looks like the only way in ? is this so? > > regards > Brian > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > www.martinfryphotography.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 13:27:06 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 13:27:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox 3.0.7 Dragging Issue Message-ID: Hi I updated to the latest version of Firefox 3 a few days ago - 3.0.7 Since then I have been experiencing odd dragging problems. Trying to highlight text or even move the scroll bar drags the whole Firefox window. Anyone else getting this. Is it a 3.0.7 thing or just coincidence and something else going on? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From sc at davidviner.com Tue Mar 10 13:52:00 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:52:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox 3.0.7 Dragging Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B67080.9050204@davidviner.com> Simon Do you run the Firebug add-on? If so then there are several problems with Firebug 1.3.3 and FF 3.0.7, especially with Google Maps and anything else that's using large amounts of JavaScript - see: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/browse_thread/thread/392b51d60423618e Disabling Firebug usually fixes the problem. FF 3.0.6 + Firebug 1.3.3 had no problems. David > Hi > > I updated to the latest version of Firefox 3 a few days ago - 3.0.7 > > Since then I have been experiencing odd dragging problems. Trying to > highlight text or even move the scroll bar drags the whole Firefox > window. > > Anyone else getting this. Is it a 3.0.7 thing or just coincidence and > something else going on? > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 13:53:43 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 13:53:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 1Ghz PowerBook Upgrade Message-ID: Hi Not sure whether I have asked this, but opportunity has arisen again so I am asking anyway. I have a PowerBook G4 867Mhz. I have the chance to get a 1Ghz logic board quite cheap and wondered if it was worth the hassle. I don't have a problem with stripping out the PowerBook to get the new logic board in it. Physically it is about 11.5% processor speed increase, but the 1Ghz also comes with 64MB of video RAM whereas my 867Mhz only has 32MB video RAM. As I am running Leopard I thought this might help especially as Core Image is only software and Quartz Extreme is marked as supported. Would there be much improvement under Leopard? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 13:58:28 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 13:58:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox 3.0.7 Dragging Issue In-Reply-To: <49B67080.9050204@davidviner.com> References: <49B67080.9050204@davidviner.com> Message-ID: David I am not using Firebug. I am using Delicious Bookmarks - but there are no updates available for it. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 10 2009, David Viner wrote: Simon Do you run the Firebug add-on? If so then there are several problems with Firebug 1.3.3 and FF 3.0.7, especially with Google Maps and anything else that's using large amounts of JavaScript - see: http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/browse_thread/thread/392b51d60423618e Disabling Firebug usually fixes the problem. FF 3.0.6 + Firebug 1.3.3 had no problems. David > Hi > > I updated to the latest version of Firefox 3 a few days ago - 3.0.7 > > Since then I have been experiencing odd dragging problems. Trying to > highlight text or even move the scroll bar drags the whole Firefox > window. > > Anyone else getting this. Is it a 3.0.7 thing or just coincidence and > something else going on? > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Tue Mar 10 14:19:51 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:19:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox 3.0.7 Dragging Issue In-Reply-To: References: <49B67080.9050204@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <49B67707.2020708@davidviner.com> Simon It seems that there could be a code "regression" problem with Firefox 3.0.7 (and any other browser that uses version 1.9.0.x of the Gecko rendering engine). This could be affecting other add-ons and sites such as Delicious. The problem has been reported to Mozilla - no doubt we will have to wait for 3.0.8 for a full fix though the author of Firebug already has a workaround for how it affects that particular add-on. David Simon Royal wrote: > David > > I am not using Firebug. > > I am using Delicious Bookmarks - but there are no updates available > for it. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 10 2009, David Viner wrote: > > Simon > > Do you run the Firebug add-on? If so then there are several problems > with Firebug 1.3.3 and FF 3.0.7, especially with Google Maps and > anything else that's using large amounts of JavaScript - see: > > http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/browse_thread/thread/392b51d60423618e > > > Disabling Firebug usually fixes the problem. FF 3.0.6 + Firebug 1.3.3 > had no problems. > > David > >> Hi >> >> I updated to the latest version of Firefox 3 a few days ago - 3.0.7 >> >> Since then I have been experiencing odd dragging problems. Trying to >> highlight text or even move the scroll bar drags the whole Firefox >> window. >> >> Anyone else getting this. Is it a 3.0.7 thing or just coincidence and >> something else going on? >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 14:31:20 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 14:31:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox 3.0.7 Dragging Issue In-Reply-To: <49B67707.2020708@davidviner.com> References: <49B67080.9050204@davidviner.com> <49B67707.2020708@davidviner.com> Message-ID: David Thanks. I just disabled the Delicious Bookmarks add-on and it has stopped the problem. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 10 2009, David Viner wrote: Simon It seems that there could be a code "regression" problem with Firefox 3.0.7 (and any other browser that uses version 1.9.0.x of the Gecko rendering engine). This could be affecting other add-ons and sites such as Delicious. The problem has been reported to Mozilla - no doubt we will have to wait for 3.0.8 for a full fix though the author of Firebug already has a workaround for how it affects that particular add-on. David Simon Royal wrote: > David > > I am not using Firebug. > > I am using Delicious Bookmarks - but there are no updates available > for it. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 10 2009, David Viner wrote: > > Simon > > Do you run the Firebug add-on? If so then there are several problems > with Firebug 1.3.3 and FF 3.0.7, especially with Google Maps and > anything else that's using large amounts of JavaScript - see: > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/browse_thread/thread/392b51d60423618e > > > Disabling Firebug usually fixes the problem. FF 3.0.6 + Firebug 1.3.3 > had no problems. > > David > >> Hi >> >> I updated to the latest version of Firefox 3 a few days ago - 3.0.7 >> >> Since then I have been experiencing odd dragging problems. Trying to >> highlight text or even move the scroll bar drags the whole Firefox >> window. >> >> Anyone else getting this. Is it a 3.0.7 thing or just coincidence and >> something else going on? >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5 & 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 14:53:40 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 14:53:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Broadcom Based USB Wi-Fi Adapters Message-ID: Hi I have done a lot of research into Airport alternatives for PowerBooks with PCMCIA slots and also installing Airport hacked cards into certain Macs. http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/html/maccards.html http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/html/airport-hack.html I have also used a number of cards and USB adapters that have their own wireless utilities - like the RaLink ones. However, does anyone know of any USB wi-fi adapters that use the same Broadcom chipset as Airport Cards, Airport Extreme Cards or similar cards like the Buffalo G54, Motorola WN825 or Dell TrueMobile 1300. All these are detected by Mac OSX as genuine Airport and use Apples Aiport software. Are there any USB wi-fi adapters that do the same? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Mar 10 17:00:07 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:00:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac Message-ID: Anyone who likes to dream of riches beyond the realms of avarice may care to configure their optimal Mac Pro http://insideapple.apple.com/redir/cbx-cgi.do?v=2&la=en&lc=en&a=gvIX%2FoVMjKaep5BkW656qheONzYowQBa%2Fd1FUYNQbPdICHlKgMjyluE2p0KAt0HmbnaAaCWxQRCfVTA8dG%2BnGNhKL%2F8aSJK0MTz6BWPv%2Bgtlpt9Ct0jr8vqfUep6RaDR See how expensive (and desirable?) you can make YOUR ideal Mac. -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 17:08:07 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: blimey, what's going on? Apples RAM prices are almost sensible... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Anyone who likes to dream of riches beyond the realms of avarice may care to > configure their optimal Mac Pro > http://insideapple.apple.com/redir/cbx-cgi.do?v=2&la=en&lc=en&a=gvIX%2FoVMjKaep5BkW656qheONzYowQBa%2Fd1FUYNQbPdICHlKgMjyluE2p0KAt0HmbnaAaCWxQRCfVTA8dG%2BnGNhKL%2F8aSJK0MTz6BWPv%2Bgtlpt9Ct0jr8vqfUep6RaDR > > See how expensive (and desirable?) you can make YOUR ideal Mac. > > > > -- > Stefan Youngs > Tel: ? +1 (415) 449 1771 > FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 > skype me at stefanyoungs > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Mar 10 17:12:43 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:12:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Restoring from TimeMachine Message-ID: Thankyou to those who offered advice on the problem I reported earlier: how to restore an entire system from a TimeMachine backup so the restored disk behaves EXACTLY like the one that failed. I am going to try the route suggested by Paul and will report to you in due course. If restoring from the Install DVD and selecting the option 'restore from TimeMachine' works then I'll be back where I started, with all my bookmarks in place, all my Mail data working etc. There seems to be a little confusion about 2 different scenarios in which TimeMachine is useful. The first is to recover a deleted or changed file.. for this the solution is brilliant and typically Apple - intuitive. There really is NO EXCUSE now for anyone to lose anything, provided you can afford an external disk on which to store your TimeMachine volume. At less than 100 nicker for enough disk to store a good part of the British Library, there's scant reason not to make the investment The second is the situation I have reported where my entire disk has failed and I need a complete restore from TimeMachine. As somebody pointed out, the days when you could immediately tell where all the relevant and necessary data pertaining to an application was to be found are long gone. One needs an automated facility that KNOWS where all the little bits and pieces are stored. Let's hope the TimeMachine restore facility does this. -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 10 17:14:33 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:14:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15A0EAFB-F835-4785-AB35-462EA964BEEF@durrant.co.uk> It's more interesting to use the UK site: http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/MB535B/A Hmm... 2.93 eight core, with 12GB memory, 4TB hard disk space on a RAID card, a couple of video cards driving 2 24" LD displays, two superdrives, wireless keyboadrd and mouse, Airport card. Only ?7,709.03 Of course, adding all possible enhancements brings the figure to a mind-boggling ?14,225.03 Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 17:00, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Anyone who likes to dream of riches beyond the realms of avarice may > care to > configure their optimal Mac Pro > http://insideapple.apple.com/redir/cbx-cgi.do?v=2&la=en&lc=en&a=gvIX%2FoVMjKaep5BkW656qheONzYowQBa%2Fd1FUYNQbPdICHlKgMjyluE2p0KAt0HmbnaAaCWxQRCfVTA8dG%2BnGNhKL%2F8aSJK0MTz6BWPv%2Bgtlpt9Ct0jr8vqfUep6RaDR > > See how expensive (and desirable?) you can make YOUR ideal Mac. > From tomkershaw at mac.com Tue Mar 10 17:20:59 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:20:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac In-Reply-To: <15A0EAFB-F835-4785-AB35-462EA964BEEF@durrant.co.uk> References: <15A0EAFB-F835-4785-AB35-462EA964BEEF@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <49B6A17B.7010507@mac.com> I agree to a large extent with the latest TidBITS, suggesting that Apple has started to move these machines up market. Perhaps we will see the return of the mid-range tower at some point... Tom. Paul Durrant wrote: > It's more interesting to use the UK site: > > http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/MB535B/A > > Hmm... 2.93 eight core, with 12GB memory, 4TB hard disk space on a > RAID card, a couple of video cards driving 2 24" LD displays, two > superdrives, wireless keyboadrd and mouse, Airport card. > > Only ?7,709.03 > > Of course, adding all possible enhancements brings the figure to a > mind-boggling ?14,225.03 > > Paul > > On 10 Mar 2009, at 17:00, Stefan Youngs wrote: > >> Anyone who likes to dream of riches beyond the realms of avarice may >> care to >> configure their optimal Mac Pro >> http://insideapple.apple.com/redir/cbx-cgi.do?v=2&la=en&lc=en&a=gvIX%2FoVMjKaep5BkW656qheONzYowQBa%2Fd1FUYNQbPdICHlKgMjyluE2p0KAt0HmbnaAaCWxQRCfVTA8dG%2BnGNhKL%2F8aSJK0MTz6BWPv%2Bgtlpt9Ct0jr8vqfUep6RaDR >> >> >> See how expensive (and desirable?) you can make YOUR ideal Mac. >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 10 17:26:08 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80E1CB96-B30C-4D81-A456-94AB898972DE@durrant.co.uk> Only almost. If you look at the upgrades from 8GB to 12Gb and 16GB, you'll see that they're asking for ?80 for each DIMM. Crucial are asking just a little over ?40 per DIMM. The upgrade to 8GB is probably worth it, to free up memory slots for an extra 4GB from crucial for half the cost. Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 17:08, Scott Matthews wrote: > blimey, what's going on? Apples RAM prices are almost sensible... > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 18:04:29 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:04:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac Message-ID: Hi. I have just ordered two maxxed out models... in my head... :) Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] The Optimal Mac From: Paul Durrant Date: 10/03/2009 17:14 It's more interesting to use the UK site: http://store.apple.com/uk/configure/MB535B/A Hmm... 2.93 eight core, with 12GB memory, 4TB hard disk space on a RAID card, a couple of video cards driving 2 24" LD displays, two superdrives, wireless keyboadrd and mouse, Airport card. Only ?7,709.03 Of course, adding all possible enhancements brings the figure to a mind-boggling ?14,225.03 Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 17:00, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Anyone who likes to dream of riches beyond the realms of avarice may > care to > configure their optimal Mac Pro > http://insideapple.apple.com/redir/cbx-cgi.do?v=2&la=en&lc=en&a=gvIX%2FoVMjKaep5BkW656qheONzYowQBa%2Fd1FUYNQbPdICHlKgMjyluE2p0KAt0HmbnaAaCWxQRCfVTA8dG%2BnGNhKL%2F8aSJK0MTz6BWPv%2Bgtlpt9Ct0jr8vqfUep6RaDR > > See how expensive (and desirable?) you can make YOUR ideal Mac. > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 10 22:40:17 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Mar 2009 22:40:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PB RAM On eBay Message-ID: Hi I have been looking for some extra RAM for my PowerBook G4. It currently has 768MB (512MB & 256MB) and was looking at upping it to 1GB. I found this on eBay http://tinyurl.com/df47te While it mentions some of the Titanium models it doesn't mention mine. I thought all Titaniums took the same sort of RAM. Is this an over site on the listing or am I missing something. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 11 08:06:06 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:06:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PB RAM On eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FF067BE-CB10-4FE2-92D4-118125314BC2@durrant.co.uk> The PowwrBook G4 867MHz takes PC-133 3.3V 144pin SO-DIMM non-parity. It looks like that eBay auction is for the right kind of so-dimm. MacTracker is very good at this sort of info, and you can also use the Crucial web site to find the right kind of memory. Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Simon Royal wrote: > I have been looking for some extra RAM for my PowerBook G4. It > currently has 768MB (512MB & 256MB) and was looking at upping it to > 1GB. > > I found this on eBay > http://tinyurl.com/df47te > > While it mentions some of the Titanium models it doesn't mention > mine. I thought all Titaniums took the same sort of RAM. Is this an > over site on the listing or am I missing something. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 11 09:28:30 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 11 Mar 2009 09:28:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PB RAM On eBay In-Reply-To: <9FF067BE-CB10-4FE2-92D4-118125314BC2@durrant.co.uk> References: <9FF067BE-CB10-4FE2-92D4-118125314BC2@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I know what my PowerBook takes and I even checked MacTracker, I just wondered why he listed only certain models of Titanium when all of them take the same spec. I have been warned of this eBay user by a number of other people - he offers Mac RAM that isn't compatible with Macs even though it states it in the listing. He used to be called fastmemoryman. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 11 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: The PowwrBook G4 867MHz takes PC-133 3.3V 144pin SO-DIMM non-parity. It looks like that eBay auction is for the right kind of so-dimm. MacTracker is very good at this sort of info, and you can also use the Crucial web site to find the right kind of memory. Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Simon Royal wrote: > I have been looking for some extra RAM for my PowerBook G4. It > currently has 768MB (512MB & 256MB) and was looking at upping it to > 1GB. > > I found this on eBay > http://tinyurl.com/df47te > > While it mentions some of the Titanium models it doesn't mention > mine. I thought all Titaniums took the same sort of RAM. Is this an > over site on the listing or am I missing something. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Wed Mar 11 13:00:07 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:00:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PB RAM On eBay In-Reply-To: References: <9FF067BE-CB10-4FE2-92D4-118125314BC2@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Caveat emptor then ... On 11 Mar 2009, at 09:28, Simon Royal wrote: Paul I know what my PowerBook takes and I even checked MacTracker, I just wondered why he listed only certain models of Titanium when all of them take the same spec. I have been warned of this eBay user by a number of other people - he offers Mac RAM that isn't compatible with Macs even though it states it in the listing. He used to be called fastmemoryman. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 11 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: The PowwrBook G4 867MHz takes PC-133 3.3V 144pin SO-DIMM non-parity. It looks like that eBay auction is for the right kind of so-dimm. MacTracker is very good at this sort of info, and you can also use the Crucial web site to find the right kind of memory. Paul On 10 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Simon Royal wrote: > I have been looking for some extra RAM for my PowerBook G4. It > currently has 768MB (512MB & 256MB) and was looking at upping it to > 1GB. > > I found this on eBay > http://tinyurl.com/df47te > > While it mentions some of the Titanium models it doesn't mention > mine. I thought all Titaniums took the same sort of RAM. Is this an > over site on the listing or am I missing something. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 11 13:11:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 11 Mar 2009 13:11:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PB Battery... Opinions Please Message-ID: Hi I am going to buy a new battery for my PowerBook G4 as my current one only lasts ten minutes. I saw this on eBay. http://tinyurl.com/bt8kjr What do you lot think of it. Is it worth it. It is very reasonably priced. It says the item is in the UK but he is a business user from Hong Kong which makes me a bit wary. Looking at his feedback it is pretty good. What do you all think? Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 11 14:28:30 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:28:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iPod Shuffle Message-ID: Apple have just announced a new iPod shuffle. It has 4GB memory, is smaller (in volume) than the old one, and to get around the problem of no display, it has "voice over" a synthesized voice that can announce track names, band name, and playlists. It still has a clip on the back. Silver or black. Only 10 hours playback time. It's ?59. The biggest drawback I can see with the new shuffle is that the controls are all on the headphone cord. So you MUST use Apple headphones, you can't use any others. This seems to me to be a very bad move, especially as they've simplified the control down to just three. Yes, really! I'd much rather have controls on the iPod and be able to use any headphones. The old 1GB (not the 2GB) iPod is still available for ?31 in a variety of colours. I don't think Apple have a hit on their hands this time. Paul From david.tillyer at googlemail.com Wed Mar 11 14:31:14 2009 From: david.tillyer at googlemail.com (David Tillyer) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:31:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iPod Shuffle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it is great for a select number of people. I think iPhone users for example who want their music when they run or go to the gym will love it. Plus people will forego functionality for the crazy small size. I want one and I don't even exercise (yet!). 2009/3/11 Paul Durrant > Apple have just announced a new iPod shuffle. > > It has 4GB memory, is smaller (in volume) than the old one, and to get > around the problem of no display, it has "voice over" a synthesized voice > that can announce track names, band name, and playlists. It still has a clip > on the back. Silver or black. Only 10 hours playback time. > > It's ?59. > > The biggest drawback I can see with the new shuffle is that the controls > are all on the headphone cord. So you MUST use Apple headphones, you can't > use any others. This seems to me to be a very bad move, especially as > they've simplified the control down to just three. Yes, really! > > I'd much rather have controls on the iPod and be able to use any > headphones. > > The old 1GB (not the 2GB) iPod is still available for ?31 in a variety of > colours. I don't think Apple have a hit on their hands this time. > > > Paul > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- David Tillyer Photography http://www.davidthephotographer.co.uk http://davidthephotographer.blogspot.com/ From ghowells at f2s.com Wed Mar 11 14:58:50 2009 From: ghowells at f2s.com (G.Howells) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:58:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: Chips on Epson Cartridges In-Reply-To: <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> References: <47E25039-0906-49AB-B50F-C4CE4F3A73F6@durrant.co.uk> <77DD6E86-A5F9-4FEC-ACE5-35309D0C2B17@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi everyone. A little warning about Epson printers in case you haven't come across the problem. I used to have an Epson all-in-one of the CX series which took the TO711 etc cartridges. When it broke down I replaced it with the Epson SX400, choosing this model because it took the same type of cartridge (as I had recently bought a stock (of compatible cartridges) for the previous machine). This SX400 worked well with the Epson cartridges that came with it, but when they ran out it just wouldn't work, despite all my efforts, with compatible cartridges that had worked quite well with the previous machine. I phoned Phoenix who put me through to a print technician who said that there is a V--- number in minute print on the chip on the cartridge and that if this isn't V5 then the cartridge won't work with the latest printers. My cartridges were of an earlier chip number thoughof the correct cartridge number. I had never noticed this chip number before. Fortunately I had just received a set of four compatible cartridges from Print Cartridges Direct who had a special offer on, and when I replaced all the cartridges in the printer with these V5 ones, it worked. I am at the moment keeping the Epson with compatible cartridges for photocopying, scanning and general printing and keeping a Canon PIXMA iP4600 printer for photographs, with Canon ink. The Canon prints photos much lighter, as the reviews said, but is very good to work with, can be stocked with two different papers in different trays, and is very quiet in operation. Gordon. From alanbarber at mac.com Wed Mar 11 15:05:21 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:05:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] new shuffle Message-ID: <79761E36-E883-4BA3-BF1F-F5568B03A22B@mac.com> I have just watched the shuffle video and though I have to agree about the apple earphones I think the 1000 songs, the size and multiply play lists will sell it. I want one but will wait for a refurb. Regards Alan From penguin.999 at virgin.net Wed Mar 11 15:13:09 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:13:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] new shuffle In-Reply-To: <79761E36-E883-4BA3-BF1F-F5568B03A22B@mac.com> References: <79761E36-E883-4BA3-BF1F-F5568B03A22B@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mar 11, 2009, at 15:05, Alan Barber wrote: > I have just watched the shuffle video and though I have to agree > about the apple earphones I will wait for Sennheiser to produce a compatible headphone as I have never been able to get on with those in the ear things. Then again I really ought to teach myself not to automatically want every new thing that Apple puts out, I have a perfectly good 160GB iPod Classic!! Paul C From alanbarber at mac.com Wed Mar 11 15:16:30 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:16:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] new shuffle In-Reply-To: References: <79761E36-E883-4BA3-BF1F-F5568B03A22B@mac.com> Message-ID: I have a perfectly good 160GB iPod Classic!! It might be perfectly good but its enormous! Regards Alan On 11 Mar 2009, at 15:13, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2009, at 15:05, Alan Barber wrote: > >> I have just watched the shuffle video and though I have to agree >> about the apple earphones > > I will wait for Sennheiser to produce a compatible headphone as I > have never been able to get on with those in the ear things. > > Then again I really ought to teach myself not to automatically want > every new thing that Apple puts out, I have a perfectly good 160GB > iPod Classic!! > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allan at dsol.co.uk Wed Mar 11 15:18:51 2009 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:18:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] CIS Message-ID: <794D5FAE-97F9-4BD6-9078-DBA42B973F63@dsol.co.uk> Does anyone have any experience with CIS systems? There are two contenders that I am particularly interested in getting first hand user information about are: EcoFlo from Perma Jet Lyson CIS from Marrutt I'm planning to use one of these with an Epson R2880 printer. Grateful for any input on this. Allan Johns. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 11 15:16:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:16:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Card Antenna Message-ID: Hi. I have a Buffalo G54 in my Titanium PowerBook G4. It works great and gives me Airport Extreme in a supposed Airport only machine. I can wander all around my house and even my garden. However there is one spot in my dining room that while I get a signal it isn't great and makes browsing slow. This happens to be my table which I like to work at. There is an antenna connector on this card - similar to Airport cards. Would connecting an antenna make an improvement in this area of my dining room. I swapped the antenna on a router had before for a 20" high gain massive one and that made a lot of difference. Would I be better doing that. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 11 15:23:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:23:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: Chips on Epson Cartridges Message-ID: Hi. Im still using an Epson Colour Stylus Photo 1200, massive A3 beast that I picked up off a fellow NMUG member about a year ago. No chips, no hassle and cartridges are only ?1. I want a wireless all in one jobby but I am a bit put off giving up this beast. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Re: Chips on Epson Cartridges From: "G.Howells" Date: 11/03/2009 14:59 Hi everyone. A little warning about Epson printers in case you haven't come across the problem. I used to have an Epson all-in-one of the CX series which took the TO711 etc cartridges. When it broke down I replaced it with the Epson SX400, choosing this model because it took the same type of cartridge (as I had recently bought a stock (of compatible cartridges) for the previous machine). This SX400 worked well with the Epson cartridges that came with it, but when they ran out it just wouldn't work, despite all my efforts, with compatible cartridges that had worked quite well with the previous machine. I phoned Phoenix who put me through to a print technician who said that there is a V--- number in minute print on the chip on the cartridge and that if this isn't V5 then the cartridge won't work with the latest printers. My cartridges were of an earlier chip number thoughof the correct cartridge number. I had never noticed this chip number before. Fortunately I had just received a set of four compatible cartridges from Print Cartridges Direct who had a special offer on, and when I replaced all the cartridges in the printer with these V5 ones, it worked. I am at the moment keeping the Epson with compatible cartridges for photocopying, scanning and general printing and keeping a Canon PIXMA iP4600 printer for photographs, with Canon ink. The Canon prints photos much lighter, as the reviews said, but is very good to work with, can be stocked with two different papers in different trays, and is very quiet in operation. Gordon. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Wed Mar 11 16:07:37 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:07:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iPod Shuffle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree. I am interested in getting a pair of noise canceling headphones to combat the spring mowing sounds, and would have liked the shuffle but not with Apple ear buds. Nathan On 11 Mar 2009, at 14:28, Paul Durrant wrote: > Apple have just announced a new iPod shuffle. > > It has 4GB memory, is smaller (in volume) than the old one, and to > get around the problem of no display, it has "voice over" a > synthesized voice that can announce track names, band name, and > playlists. It still has a clip on the back. Silver or black. Only 10 > hours playback time. > > It's ?59. > > The biggest drawback I can see with the new shuffle is that the > controls are all on the headphone cord. So you MUST use Apple > headphones, you can't use any others. This seems to me to be a very > bad move, especially as they've simplified the control down to just > three. Yes, really! > > I'd much rather have controls on the iPod and be able to use any > headphones. > > The old 1GB (not the 2GB) iPod is still available for ?31 in a > variety of colours. I don't think Apple have a hit on their hands > this time. > > > Paul > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From griffy04 at mac.com Wed Mar 11 16:56:50 2009 From: griffy04 at mac.com (David Griffiths) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:56:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Card Antenna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31588C0F-EE36-46A1-8A97-2BA2DA9BAE9F@mac.com> Yes it will improve matters, I've no doubt about that. I've bought several ariels in the past from Maplins when I've been a long way from the router (long range mesh networks, over 100m etc) and they have worked well. I would however not necessarily go for the highest gain model, as they are often more expensive, and they not only boost the signal, but also any interference present. Dave On 11 Mar 2009, at 15:16, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I have a Buffalo G54 in my Titanium PowerBook G4. It works great and > gives me Airport Extreme in a supposed Airport only machine. > > I can wander all around my house and even my garden. However there > is one spot in my dining room that while I get a signal it isn't > great and makes browsing slow. This happens to be my table which I > like to work at. > > There is an antenna connector on this card - similar to Airport > cards. Would connecting an antenna make an improvement in this area > of my dining room. > > I swapped the antenna on a router had before for a 20" high gain > massive one and that made a lot of difference. Would I be better > doing that. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Wed Mar 11 17:40:28 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:40:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking Message-ID: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Hello folks I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm getting 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on another phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to my network? I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as long as that computer could network with the others." Ruth From tomkershaw at mac.com Wed Mar 11 18:01:57 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:01:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <49B7FC95.50404@mac.com> Ruth, I think using two ADSL lines together to boost speed is possible with a compatible router. Tom. Ruth Murray wrote: > Hello folks > > I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. > > "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port > gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm getting > 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on another > phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to my network? > > I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as long > as that computer could network with the others." > > Ruth > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Wed Mar 11 18:04:38 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:04:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <49B7FD36.5090804@mac.com> Dual WAN router: http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=52FT&InMerch=1 Tom. Ruth Murray wrote: > Hello folks > > I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. > > "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port > gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm getting > 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on another > phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to my network? > > I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as long > as that computer could network with the others." > > Ruth > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 11 18:05:08 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:05:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <01FBEB87-3917-4850-B7DE-B15A987D8DB0@durrant.co.uk> You mention a 16-port gigabit router. I suspect that by this you really mean a 16 port gigabit switch. i.e. it doesn't do any fiddling with IP addresses. The router will be in the ADSL modem, and will be routing between the internal network on internal IP addresses, and the outside world and global IP addresses. You could add another ADSL modem/router to the switch, so long as it was using a different range of internal IP addresses. You could then (on each Mac) add another Ethernet service in the Network Preferences pane, and set that new service to look to the new router to obtain an internal IP address (by DHCP), distinguishing between the routers because they'd have different IP ranges. E.g. one would be 192.168.1.x and the other 192.168.2.x, so you'd set the router address as 192.168.1.1 in one service and 192.168.2.1 in the other, with each having subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. The each computer would connect to the internet by whichever router's service was highest in the preferences list of services. And if a router failed, should automatically switch over to the other. The important bit is that they should not both be assigning IP addresses in the same IP address range. It /should/ all just work. regards, Paul On 11 Mar 2009, at 17:40, Ruth Murray wrote: > Hello folks > > I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. > > "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port > gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm > getting 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on > another phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to my > network? > > I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as long > as that computer could network with the others." > > Ruth > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 11 18:06:09 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:06:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <49B7FC95.50404@mac.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <49B7FC95.50404@mac.com> Message-ID: <8FF5A80C-1CB6-4D11-ACC5-02173E379967@durrant.co.uk> Oh yes - the setup I mention would mean each Mac was using one ADSL modem or another, not both at the same time. Paul On 11 Mar 2009, at 18:01, Tom Kershaw wrote: > Ruth, > > I think using two ADSL lines together to boost speed is possible > with a compatible router. > > > > Tom. > > > Ruth Murray wrote: >> Hello folks >> >> I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. >> >> "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port >> gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm >> getting 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on >> another phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to >> my network? >> >> I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as >> long as that computer could network with the others." >> >> Ruth >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From macman at f2s.com Wed Mar 11 18:43:06 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:43:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Hi Ruth I would say yes, but not without some serious configuring or expense! I think the '16 Port router' is probably a switch fed by the existing modem. A Dual Wan Router would do the trick, but both the 'Free' one and the existing one would be redundant. Dual Wan routers are not generally cheap, although I did see one for ?24.99 at the address below. Just how good it is, however, I would query ... http://tinyurl.com/atdohl I would simply check out the promise of 24Mb with the new one first, and if there's adequate performance, cancel the existing service .... (As I understand it, there aren't too many 24Mb offers around, as they're generally exchange dependent or cable, but I'm happy to be corrected) Hope this helps Robbie On 11 Mar 2009, at 17:40, Ruth Murray wrote: Hello folks I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm getting 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) on another phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems to my network? I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as long as that computer could network with the others." Ruth _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Wed Mar 11 22:32:34 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:32:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 11 23:19:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 11 Mar 2009 23:19:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: Paul Ha ha, very funny. I liked that. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 11 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Wed Mar 11 23:25:15 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:25:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Thu Mar 12 07:24:06 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:24:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: Core what an apeeling idea. Nathan On 11 Mar 2009, at 23:25, Robbie Murray wrote: > I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... > > > > On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: > > Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. > > > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jeremyknight at mac.com Thu Mar 12 08:49:40 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:49:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: Is it duo core? If it isn't it will give me the pip! Jeremy On 12 Mar 2009, at 07:24, Nathan Crosby wrote: > Core what an apeeling idea. > > Nathan > > > On 11 Mar 2009, at 23:25, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... >> >> >> >> On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: >> >> Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. >> >> >> >> Paul C >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 12 08:57:16 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:57:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: .... doesn't work with Orange broadband .... Robbie On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:49, jeremy knight wrote: Is it duo core? If it isn't it will give me the pip! Jeremy On 12 Mar 2009, at 07:24, Nathan Crosby wrote: > Core what an apeeling idea. > > Nathan > > > On 11 Mar 2009, at 23:25, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... >> >> >> >> On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: >> >> Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. >> >> >> >> Paul C >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Thu Mar 12 08:59:45 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:59:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> Message-ID: <9D291C97-BD9A-493D-B9C7-F38417A2E6B1@virgin.net> It does with OrangePippin.com Nathan On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:57, Robbie Murray wrote: > .... doesn't work with Orange broadband .... > > Robbie > > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:49, jeremy knight wrote: > > Is it duo core? > If it isn't it will give me the pip! > Jeremy > On 12 Mar 2009, at 07:24, Nathan Crosby wrote: > >> Core what an apeeling idea. >> >> Nathan >> >> >> On 11 Mar 2009, at 23:25, Robbie Murray wrote: >> >>> I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: >>> >>> Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul C >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 12 09:23:39 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:23:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] A basic Apple for sale In-Reply-To: <9D291C97-BD9A-493D-B9C7-F38417A2E6B1@virgin.net> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <0BC3A9CB-A88B-4425-A5B5-F45E8FF5AC20@f2s.com> <9D291C97-BD9A-493D-B9C7-F38417A2E6B1@virgin.net> Message-ID: enough! This is driving me bananas ... Robbie On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:59, Nathan Crosby wrote: It does with OrangePippin.com Nathan On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:57, Robbie Murray wrote: > .... doesn't work with Orange broadband .... > > Robbie > > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:49, jeremy knight wrote: > > Is it duo core? > If it isn't it will give me the pip! > Jeremy > On 12 Mar 2009, at 07:24, Nathan Crosby wrote: > >> Core what an apeeling idea. >> >> Nathan >> >> >> On 11 Mar 2009, at 23:25, Robbie Murray wrote: >> >>> I believe the top bidder is Granny Smith ... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Paul Chapman wrote: >>> >>> Someone in the US is hopeful with this ad on CraigsList. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul C >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Thu Mar 12 09:51:57 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:51:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf Message-ID: Hello everyone Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf without having to get Acrobat? The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file saving options in Appleworks only offer a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. Any help very much appreciated Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Mar 12 09:57:50 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:57:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375992370903120257g6833c740qb7e5806a57c5630d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/12 Jeremy Webb : > Hello everyone > > Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf without > having to get Acrobat? > > The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file saving > options in Appleworks only offer > a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. File.. Print... PDF.. Save as PDF Every App in OS X has that ability I believe. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 12 09:59:48 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:59:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1423CA37-3B5C-48CE-AC5E-57EB510C3349@durrant.co.uk> Look in the bottom left of the Print dialog. regards, Paul On 12 Mar 2009, at 09:51, Jeremy Webb wrote: > Hello everyone > > Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf > without having to get Acrobat? > > The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file > saving options in Appleworks only offer > a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. > > Any help very much appreciated From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 12 10:03:27 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:03:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7094021E-C58B-4F10-8885-69F257C99B76@f2s.com> Print > Pdf (button bottom left corner) > save as pdf .... This is an OSX function - not Application specific, so should work with any screen you're looking at. Works in 10.5, and I think 10.4 if my memory serves; not sure about previous versions ... Robbie On 12 Mar 2009, at 09:51, Jeremy Webb wrote: Hello everyone Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf without having to get Acrobat? The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file saving options in Appleworks only offer a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. Any help very much appreciated Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Thu Mar 12 10:07:00 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:07:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf In-Reply-To: <375992370903120257g6833c740qb7e5806a57c5630d@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903120257g6833c740qb7e5806a57c5630d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <89EAAF8D-8A63-414D-A3D3-B881B2D00CFD@virgin.net> Dagnabbit! I knew there was a way - some things are so simple you overlook them Thank you David & Paul & Robbie Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 12 Mar 2009, at 09:57, David Reynolds wrote: > 2009/3/12 Jeremy Webb : >> Hello everyone >> >> Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf >> without >> having to get Acrobat? >> >> The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file >> saving >> options in Appleworks only offer >> a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. > > File.. Print... PDF.. Save as PDF > > Every App in OS X has that ability I believe. > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 10:32:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 10:32:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Me & The Mac World Message-ID: Hi I am still mulling over the idea of changing my URL to increase my potential for visitors on my website, but I am wondering how much that will help. I am gaining huge momentum in the Mac world growing all the time. If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the first four pages on various sites and links. I write for LowEndMac and am fast becoming one of their top ranked writers. These articles are being replicated and mentioned on sites like PBCentral, MacDailyNews, AppleLinks, Zicos as well my own. All of these sites/pages have a link back to my current website - which has just gone under an overhaul to make it more Mac like/based. So I am wondering whether it is just a waiting game before my site gains more visitors. It is growing on a monthly basis and do I want to disturb this by switching URLs. Someone asked where do I see my site going and that is a good question. I see it being a base for people contact me, a source of information mainly on Mac subjects, a place for me to write articles on older computing. Articles like 'getting the most out of your G3' and 'mac wifi cards' are my biggest hitters so there is still a call for people using Macs that others would throw out. My URL is on the bottom of every email I send out, so it is Googled with every post to this group and others I belong too. I have contacted every Mac related site for a mention and a link and a lot of them have responded positively. In the past few months I have been contacted by people from my site asking for help, something that has never happened before. I have had my site for 3 years and it is only the last six months that traffic has increased by a large amount. Would changing my URL upset the Apple cart (no pun intended). Is there too much importance on URL - should it be the content that is looked at or META content such as TAGS and titles. Others have suggested a number of new URLs - themacresource, macroyal, royalmac and macthings being the most welcomed. I am sorry if this is a little off topic, but you are knowledgeable Mac people - the kind of people I want to attract too. So I am calling on your varied experiences to offer assistance. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Mar 12 10:55:44 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:55:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Me & The Mac World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375992370903120355w7a80581axd9ffc19c0b105e78@mail.gmail.com> Simon, 2009/3/12 Simon Royal : > Hi > > I am still mulling over the idea of changing my URL to increase my potential > for visitors on my website, but I am wondering how much that will help. I am > gaining huge momentum in the Mac world growing all the time. > > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the first > four pages on various sites and links. I write for LowEndMac and am fast > becoming one of their top ranked writers. These articles are being > replicated and mentioned on sites like PBCentral, MacDailyNews, AppleLinks, > Zicos as well my own. > > All of these sites/pages have a link back to my current website - which has > just gone under an overhaul to make it more Mac like/based. So I am > wondering whether it is just a waiting game before my site gains more > visitors. It is growing on a monthly basis and do I want to disturb this by > switching URLs. > > Someone asked where do I see my site going and that is a good question. I > see it being a base for people contact me, a source of information mainly on > Mac subjects, a place for me to write articles on older computing. Articles > like 'getting the most out of your G3' and 'mac wifi cards' are my biggest > hitters so there is still a call for people using Macs that others would > throw out. > > My URL is on the bottom of every email I send out, so it is Googled with > every post to this group and others I belong too. I have contacted every Mac > related site for a mention and a link and a lot of them have responded > positively. > > In the past few months I have been contacted by people from my site asking > for help, something that has never happened before. I have had my site for 3 > years and it is only the last six months that traffic has increased by a > large amount. > > Would changing my URL upset the Apple cart (no pun intended). Is there too > much importance on URL - should it be the content that is looked at or META > content such as TAGS and titles. > > Others have suggested a number of new URLs - themacresource, macroyal, > royalmac and macthings being the most welcomed. > > I am sorry if this is a little off topic, but you are knowledgeable Mac > people - the kind of people I want to attract too. So I am calling on your > varied experiences to offer assistance. I think changing the URL will lose you some of the Google juice you have acquired over the last 3 years. Unless you are completely revamping the site, I would suggest keeping the domain. People who are used to the current domain name may get confused or put off if a similar site appears under the same domain name. You could serve the site from 2 domain names, so they both resolve to the same place, but I believe Google "marks down" sites that show the same content under more than one domain name. Hope that is some help. David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:00:30 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:00:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Me & The Mac World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wouldn't worry too much about changing the url, google currently only knows about 260 odd pages on your site. I'd be concerned about changing domain if you had tens of thousands of pages indexed, but 260 will be re-indexed fairly quickly. > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the first four pages on various sites and links. is this relevant? someone looking for info on how to get their [obscure gadget] working on [obsolete computer] is hardly likely to include your name when searching! I'd recommend cleaning up your HTML a bit, there are a few errors - this can often make a bit of difference when the googlebot comes a spiderin' update your home page a bit more often, and may be consider switching your entire site to a CMS, something like wordpress would be ideal, certainly easier to manage than a load of static html pages, and you'd be able to 'standardise' the look, jumping from your homepage to your blog is a bit jarring (for me, anyway) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am still mulling over the idea of changing my URL to increase my potential > for visitors on my website, but I am wondering how much that will help. I am > gaining huge momentum in the Mac world growing all the time. > > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the first > four pages on various sites and links. I write for LowEndMac and am fast > becoming one of their top ranked writers. These articles are being > replicated and mentioned on sites like PBCentral, MacDailyNews, AppleLinks, > Zicos as well my own. > > All of these sites/pages have a link back to my current website - which has > just gone under an overhaul to make it more Mac like/based. So I am > wondering whether it is just a waiting game before my site gains more > visitors. It is growing on a monthly basis and do I want to disturb this by > switching URLs. > > Someone asked where do I see my site going and that is a good question. I > see it being a base for people contact me, a source of information mainly on > Mac subjects, a place for me to write articles on older computing. Articles > like 'getting the most out of your G3' and 'mac wifi cards' are my biggest > hitters so there is still a call for people using Macs that others would > throw out. > > My URL is on the bottom of every email I send out, so it is Googled with > every post to this group and others I belong too. I have contacted every Mac > related site for a mention and a link and a lot of them have responded > positively. > > In the past few months I have been contacted by people from my site asking > for help, something that has never happened before. I have had my site for 3 > years and it is only the last six months that traffic has increased by a > large amount. > > Would changing my URL upset the Apple cart (no pun intended). Is there too > much importance on URL - should it be the content that is looked at or META > content such as TAGS and titles. > > Others have suggested a number of new URLs - themacresource, macroyal, > royalmac and macthings being the most welcomed. > > I am sorry if this is a little off topic, but you are knowledgeable Mac > people - the kind of people I want to attract too. So I am calling on your > varied experiences to offer assistance. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, > 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From brian at clearlight.uk.net Thu Mar 12 11:18:12 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:18:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] converting Appleworks 6.0 to pdf In-Reply-To: <89EAAF8D-8A63-414D-A3D3-B881B2D00CFD@virgin.net> Message-ID: If you had Pages you can export as a text and image pdf. Printing pdf is only a rasterized image. This might mattter sometimes so I thought to mention it. I believe Indesign and maybe others only export their own pdf and don't allow print to pdf. regards Brian Jeremy Webb said recently: > Dagnabbit! I knew there was a way - > some things are so simple you overlook them > > Thank you David & Paul & Robbie > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 09:57, David Reynolds wrote: > >> 2009/3/12 Jeremy Webb : >>> Hello everyone >>> >>> Is there an easy way of converting an Appleworks 6 file to a pdf >>> without >>> having to get Acrobat? >>> >>> The file contains only text and a few low res jpegs but the file >>> saving >>> options in Appleworks only offer >>> a few limited choices - RTF, html, and a few Word options. >> >> File.. Print... PDF.. Save as PDF >> >> Every App in OS X has that ability I believe. >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 11:18:48 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 11:18:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Me & The Mac World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott I hand write all my pages - code included. I shall check them through with validation. They may all be static, but they use CSS so global changes are easy to update. My blog is different and I am working on getting it looking more like the rest of my pages. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 12 2009, Scott Matthews wrote: I wouldn't worry too much about changing the url, google currently only knows about 260 odd pages on your site. I'd be concerned about changing domain if you had tens of thousands of pages indexed, but 260 will be re-indexed fairly quickly. > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the > first four pages on various sites and links. is this relevant? someone looking for info on how to get their [obscure gadget] working on [obsolete computer] is hardly likely to include your name when searching! I'd recommend cleaning up your HTML a bit, there are a few errors - this can often make a bit of difference when the googlebot comes a spiderin' update your home page a bit more often, and may be consider switching your entire site to a CMS, something like wordpress would be ideal, certainly easier to manage than a load of static html pages, and you'd be able to 'standardise' the look, jumping from your homepage to your blog is a bit jarring (for me, anyway) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am still mulling over the idea of changing my URL to increase my > potential for visitors on my website, but I am wondering how much that > will help. I am gaining huge momentum in the Mac world growing all the > time. > > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the > first four pages on various sites and links. I write for LowEndMac and am > fast becoming one of their top ranked writers. These articles are being > replicated and mentioned on sites like PBCentral, MacDailyNews, > AppleLinks, Zicos as well my own. > > All of these sites/pages have a link back to my current website - which > has just gone under an overhaul to make it more Mac like/based. So I am > wondering whether it is just a waiting game before my site gains more > visitors. It is growing on a monthly basis and do I want to disturb this > by switching URLs. > > Someone asked where do I see my site going and that is a good question. > I see it being a base for people contact me, a source of information > mainly on Mac subjects, a place for me to write articles on older > computing. Articles like 'getting the most out of your G3' and 'mac wifi > cards' are my biggest hitters so there is still a call for people using > Macs that others would throw out. > > My URL is on the bottom of every email I send out, so it is Googled with > every post to this group and others I belong too. I have contacted every > Mac related site for a mention and a link and a lot of them have > responded positively. > > In the past few months I have been contacted by people from my site > asking for help, something that has never happened before. I have had my > site for 3 years and it is only the last six months that traffic has > increased by a large amount. > > Would changing my URL upset the Apple cart (no pun intended). Is there > too much importance on URL - should it be the content that is looked at > or META content such as TAGS and titles. > > Others have suggested a number of new URLs - themacresource, macroyal, > royalmac and macthings being the most welcomed. > > I am sorry if this is a little off topic, but you are knowledgeable Mac > people - the kind of people I want to attract too. So I am calling on your > varied experiences to offer assistance. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, > 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 14:13:17 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 14:13:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Me & The Mac World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them were rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I hadn't. There were some glaring mistakes and things missing which needed to be there. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 12 2009, Scott Matthews wrote: I wouldn't worry too much about changing the url, google currently only knows about 260 odd pages on your site. I'd be concerned about changing domain if you had tens of thousands of pages indexed, but 260 will be re-indexed fairly quickly. > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the > first four pages on various sites and links. is this relevant? someone looking for info on how to get their [obscure gadget] working on [obsolete computer] is hardly likely to include your name when searching! I'd recommend cleaning up your HTML a bit, there are a few errors - this can often make a bit of difference when the googlebot comes a spiderin' update your home page a bit more often, and may be consider switching your entire site to a CMS, something like wordpress would be ideal, certainly easier to manage than a load of static html pages, and you'd be able to 'standardise' the look, jumping from your homepage to your blog is a bit jarring (for me, anyway) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I am still mulling over the idea of changing my URL to increase my > potential for visitors on my website, but I am wondering how much that > will help. I am gaining huge momentum in the Mac world growing all the > time. > > If you Google 'simon royal mac' I am pretty much every link for the > first four pages on various sites and links. I write for LowEndMac and am > fast becoming one of their top ranked writers. These articles are being > replicated and mentioned on sites like PBCentral, MacDailyNews, > AppleLinks, Zicos as well my own. > > All of these sites/pages have a link back to my current website - which > has just gone under an overhaul to make it more Mac like/based. So I am > wondering whether it is just a waiting game before my site gains more > visitors. It is growing on a monthly basis and do I want to disturb this > by switching URLs. > > Someone asked where do I see my site going and that is a good question. > I see it being a base for people contact me, a source of information > mainly on Mac subjects, a place for me to write articles on older > computing. Articles like 'getting the most out of your G3' and 'mac wifi > cards' are my biggest hitters so there is still a call for people using > Macs that others would throw out. > > My URL is on the bottom of every email I send out, so it is Googled with > every post to this group and others I belong too. I have contacted every > Mac related site for a mention and a link and a lot of them have > responded positively. > > In the past few months I have been contacted by people from my site > asking for help, something that has never happened before. I have had my > site for 3 years and it is only the last six months that traffic has > increased by a large amount. > > Would changing my URL upset the Apple cart (no pun intended). Is there > too much importance on URL - should it be the content that is looked at > or META content such as TAGS and titles. > > Others have suggested a number of new URLs - themacresource, macroyal, > royalmac and macthings being the most welcomed. > > I am sorry if this is a little off topic, but you are knowledgeable Mac > people - the kind of people I want to attract too. So I am calling on your > varied experiences to offer assistance. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, > 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Thu Mar 12 14:24:41 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:24:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] networking In-Reply-To: <8FF5A80C-1CB6-4D11-ACC5-02173E379967@durrant.co.uk> References: <5856E582-64DA-432E-89A7-B96CAAA4D350@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <49B7FC95.50404@mac.com> <8FF5A80C-1CB6-4D11-ACC5-02173E379967@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Paul and everyone else - I have passed the comments on. Ruth On 11 Mar 2009, at 18:06, Paul Durrant wrote: > Oh yes - the setup I mention would mean each Mac was using one ADSL > modem or another, not both at the same time. > > Paul > > On 11 Mar 2009, at 18:01, Tom Kershaw wrote: > >> Ruth, >> >> I think using two ADSL lines together to boost speed is possible >> with a compatible router. >> >> >> >> Tom. >> >> >> Ruth Murray wrote: >>> Hello folks >>> >>> I have been asked to post this on behalf of a friend. >>> >>> "I have 7 macs mostly running OS10.5, all linked into a 16-port >>> gigabit router. Connected to the router is an ADSL modem. I'm >>> getting 'free' a second modem (with a promise of 'up to' 24Mb!) >>> on another phone line. Is there any way I can connect both modems >>> to my network? >>> >>> I wouldn't mind if the modem just connected to one computer, as >>> long as that computer could network with the others." >>> >>> Ruth >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From hannaford at sizzel.net Thu Mar 12 18:52:40 2009 From: hannaford at sizzel.net (Jennifer Hannaford) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:52:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 60, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: <20090124120004.0F7E37FD9D9@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090124120004.0F7E37FD9D9@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <36951396-B74A-45E1-AB66-CE6F370B119E@sizzel.net> On 24 Jan 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CD drive problem (G.Howells) > 2. Re: Quad Core Mac Pro... Problems (Simon Royal) > 3. Black line round screen icons, work areas etc (DJR Massy) > 4. Re: Black line round screen icons, work areas etc (Scott > Matthews) > 5. Re: CD drive problem (Phil Charnley) > 6. Re: CD drive problem (G.Howells) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:46:35 +0000 > From: "G.Howells" > Subject: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hi everyone. > > A friend has just phoned me saying that he inserted a CD into the > drive in his iBook and couldn't get it out again. Eventually he took > it to a local (PC) computer shop. They managed to get it out somehow > and then inserted another CD to try it out - and couldn't get this > 2nd CD out!. All the time the computer is on the drive is apparently > grinding away (he thinks trying to eject the CD.. > > He's pressed the eject button, etc. I've made one or two suggestion > like shake (gently!) or try to ease it out or alignit with the slot > using another CD, but I'm not very hopeful! There's no Apple > specialist near us (on the North Wales coast), though we have found > the address of one in Denbigh. > > He wouldn't be keen on trying to open the computer up himself. > > Any ideas. (Did I hear "Take it to Denbigh!"?) > > Gordon. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:00:44 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Quad Core Mac Pro... Problems > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Steven > > Tried the Apple forums, seems to be reported a lot, but I cannot > find a > solution. > > Have a feeling it is a dodgy graphics card problem. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich > Mac User > Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an > Apple > Mac. > > > On Jan 23 2009, Steven Jefferson wrote: > > Apple Forums is the best start. If its 6/12 old is this an issue under > warranty? > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 11:16, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Can anyone help. An ex-colleague of mine contacted me regarding his >> work Mac. >> >> It was bought about six months ago and believe it is a 2.6Ghz Quad >> Core Mac Pro. It is running Leopard. >> >> He said it keeps freezing up. The screen flashes and has scrambling >> on it. Then it takes ages to boot up. >> >> I have asked him for more info, but any ideas. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, >> upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for >> Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, >> so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:42:34 +0000 > From: DJR Massy > Subject: [NMUG] Black line round screen icons, work areas etc > To: Norwich Mac Users' Group > Message-ID: <33EF5E11-5B09-4B34-96BC-99C08BAABC19 at ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Stupidly, I replaced batteries in my wireless keyboard by turning the > keyboard upside down, but without turning off the computer. Some key > or keys must have been pressed accidentally and this has given rise > to a strange result. It has caused the work area to be surrounded by > a black border. As I type this, the area in which I am typing > becomes surrounded with a black border, rather as though it was a > letter of condolence after bereavement. I'm writing this in Mail and > if I put the message into the Dock temporarily, then the icon > "Smaller" in the top row of icons (next to "Bigger") becomes > surrounded by this black border. I notice now that the border > surrounds the icon "Send". Perhaps this behaviour is something that > some people want, but I certainly don't! > > Does anyone know how to remove it? > > Restarting has no effect and there does not seem to be anything in > System Preferences which is relevant. > > Jim Massy. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:51:30 +0000 > From: Scott Matthews > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Black line round screen icons, work areas etc > To: DJR Massy > Cc: Norwich Mac Users' Group > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > this sounds like 'voiceover' has been switched on, the keyboard > shortcut is apple + F5 > alternatively, go to system preferences / universal access and switch > it off from there > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM, DJR Massy > wrote: >> Stupidly, I replaced batteries in my wireless keyboard by turning the >> keyboard upside down, but without turning off the computer. Some >> key or >> keys must have been pressed accidentally and this has given rise to a >> strange result. It has caused the work area to be surrounded by a >> black >> border. As I type this, the area in which I am typing becomes >> surrounded >> with a black border, rather as though it was a letter of condolence >> after >> bereavement. I'm writing this in Mail and if I put the message >> into the >> Dock temporarily, then the icon "Smaller" in the top row of icons >> (next to >> "Bigger") becomes surrounded by this black border. I notice now >> that the >> border surrounds the icon "Send". Perhaps this behaviour is >> something that >> some people want, but I certainly don't! >> >> Does anyone know how to remove it? >> >> Restarting has no effect and there does not seem to be anything in >> System >> Preferences which is relevant. >> >> Jim Massy. >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:33:04 +0000 > From: Phil Charnley > Subject: Re: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > From MacTips. Have you tried these? > > This is one of those tips that I have written about in the past on > Apple Gazette - but after searching the archives here on MacTips I > didn't find it anywhere, and its an important one - so I'm writing > about it here too. If you do stumble across it somewhere in the > archives of the site, feel free to add the links in the comments. > > Every once in a while you may find that you have a CD or DVD stuck in > your Mac that just refuses to eject. If it happens - it's frustrating. > There are a few things that you can do to force you Mac to eject the > disk. > > 1) First, try iTunes. Sometimes the iTunes eject button will work, > even if your Finder eject button, or keyboard eject button won't. > > 2) Open Terminal.app and type "drutil tray eject" - this will eject > the disk tray most of the time. > > 3) If you're still having no luck, you can restart your Mac and hold > down the mouse button. Keep your finger pressed down until the disk > ejects, or the login screen appears. > > If you've tried all three of these, and you're still having trouble - > you may want to call Apple Support. > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 15:46:35, G.Howells wrote: > >> Hi everyone. >> >> A friend has just phoned me saying that he inserted a CD into the >> drive in his iBook and couldn't get it out again. Eventually he took >> it to a local (PC) computer shop. They managed to get it out somehow >> and then inserted another CD to try it out - and couldn't get this >> 2nd CD out!. All the time the computer is on the drive is apparently >> grinding away (he thinks trying to eject the CD.. >> >> He's pressed the eject button, etc. I've made one or two suggestion >> like shake (gently!) or try to ease it out or alignit with the slot >> using another CD, but I'm not very hopeful! There's no Apple >> specialist near us (on the North Wales coast), though we have found >> the address of one in Denbigh. >> >> He wouldn't be keen on trying to open the computer up himself. >> >> Any ideas. (Did I hear "Take it to Denbigh!"?) >> >> Gordon. >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:01:07 +0000 > From: "G.Howells" > Subject: Re: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > > Thankyou to everyone who gave ideas. I have passed them on to my > friend. > > Gordon. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 60, Issue 21 > ************************************ > From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Thu Mar 12 19:19:02 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:19:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 60, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: <36951396-B74A-45E1-AB66-CE6F370B119E@sizzel.net> References: <20090124120004.0F7E37FD9D9@mail.durrant.co.uk> <36951396-B74A-45E1-AB66-CE6F370B119E@sizzel.net> Message-ID: <663C8EBD-E56A-483E-A8F0-FF10BFFFC7E9@waitrose.com> What is this?? On 12 Mar 2009, at 18:52, Jennifer Hannaford wrote: On 24 Jan 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CD drive problem (G.Howells) > 2. Re: Quad Core Mac Pro... Problems (Simon Royal) > 3. Black line round screen icons, work areas etc (DJR Massy) > 4. Re: Black line round screen icons, work areas etc (Scott Matthews) > 5. Re: CD drive problem (Phil Charnley) > 6. Re: CD drive problem (G.Howells) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:46:35 +0000 > From: "G.Howells" > Subject: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hi everyone. > > A friend has just phoned me saying that he inserted a CD into the > drive in his iBook and couldn't get it out again. Eventually he took > it to a local (PC) computer shop. They managed to get it out somehow > and then inserted another CD to try it out - and couldn't get this > 2nd CD out!. All the time the computer is on the drive is apparently > grinding away (he thinks trying to eject the CD.. > > He's pressed the eject button, etc. I've made one or two suggestion > like shake (gently!) or try to ease it out or alignit with the slot > using another CD, but I'm not very hopeful! There's no Apple > specialist near us (on the North Wales coast), though we have found > the address of one in Denbigh. > > He wouldn't be keen on trying to open the computer up himself. > > Any ideas. (Did I hear "Take it to Denbigh!"?) > > Gordon. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:00:44 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Quad Core Mac Pro... Problems > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Steven > > Tried the Apple forums, seems to be reported a lot, but I cannot > find a > solution. > > Have a feeling it is a dodgy graphics card problem. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich > Mac User > Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an > Apple > Mac. > > > On Jan 23 2009, Steven Jefferson wrote: > > Apple Forums is the best start. If its 6/12 old is this an issue under > warranty? > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 11:16, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Can anyone help. An ex-colleague of mine contacted me regarding his >> work Mac. >> >> It was bought about six months ago and believe it is a 2.6Ghz Quad >> Core Mac Pro. It is running Leopard. >> >> He said it keeps freezing up. The screen flashes and has scrambling >> on it. Then it takes ages to boot up. >> >> I have asked him for more info, but any ideas. >> >> Simon >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, >> upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for >> Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, >> so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:42:34 +0000 > From: DJR Massy > Subject: [NMUG] Black line round screen icons, work areas etc > To: Norwich Mac Users' Group > Message-ID: <33EF5E11-5B09-4B34-96BC-99C08BAABC19 at ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Stupidly, I replaced batteries in my wireless keyboard by turning the > keyboard upside down, but without turning off the computer. Some key > or keys must have been pressed accidentally and this has given rise > to a strange result. It has caused the work area to be surrounded by > a black border. As I type this, the area in which I am typing > becomes surrounded with a black border, rather as though it was a > letter of condolence after bereavement. I'm writing this in Mail and > if I put the message into the Dock temporarily, then the icon > "Smaller" in the top row of icons (next to "Bigger") becomes > surrounded by this black border. I notice now that the border > surrounds the icon "Send". Perhaps this behaviour is something that > some people want, but I certainly don't! > > Does anyone know how to remove it? > > Restarting has no effect and there does not seem to be anything in > System Preferences which is relevant. > > Jim Massy. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:51:30 +0000 > From: Scott Matthews > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Black line round screen icons, work areas etc > To: DJR Massy > Cc: Norwich Mac Users' Group > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > this sounds like 'voiceover' has been switched on, the keyboard > shortcut is apple + F5 > alternatively, go to system preferences / universal access and switch > it off from there > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM, DJR Massy > wrote: >> Stupidly, I replaced batteries in my wireless keyboard by turning the >> keyboard upside down, but without turning off the computer. Some >> key or >> keys must have been pressed accidentally and this has given rise to a >> strange result. It has caused the work area to be surrounded by a >> black >> border. As I type this, the area in which I am typing becomes >> surrounded >> with a black border, rather as though it was a letter of condolence >> after >> bereavement. I'm writing this in Mail and if I put the message >> into the >> Dock temporarily, then the icon "Smaller" in the top row of icons >> (next to >> "Bigger") becomes surrounded by this black border. I notice now >> that the >> border surrounds the icon "Send". Perhaps this behaviour is >> something that >> some people want, but I certainly don't! >> >> Does anyone know how to remove it? >> >> Restarting has no effect and there does not seem to be anything in >> System >> Preferences which is relevant. >> >> Jim Massy. >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:33:04 +0000 > From: Phil Charnley > Subject: Re: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > From MacTips. Have you tried these? > > This is one of those tips that I have written about in the past on > Apple Gazette - but after searching the archives here on MacTips I > didn't find it anywhere, and its an important one - so I'm writing > about it here too. If you do stumble across it somewhere in the > archives of the site, feel free to add the links in the comments. > > Every once in a while you may find that you have a CD or DVD stuck in > your Mac that just refuses to eject. If it happens - it's frustrating. > There are a few things that you can do to force you Mac to eject the > disk. > > 1) First, try iTunes. Sometimes the iTunes eject button will work, > even if your Finder eject button, or keyboard eject button won't. > > 2) Open Terminal.app and type "drutil tray eject" - this will eject > the disk tray most of the time. > > 3) If you're still having no luck, you can restart your Mac and hold > down the mouse button. Keep your finger pressed down until the disk > ejects, or the login screen appears. > > If you've tried all three of these, and you're still having trouble - > you may want to call Apple Support. > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 15:46:35, G.Howells wrote: > >> Hi everyone. >> >> A friend has just phoned me saying that he inserted a CD into the >> drive in his iBook and couldn't get it out again. Eventually he took >> it to a local (PC) computer shop. They managed to get it out somehow >> and then inserted another CD to try it out - and couldn't get this >> 2nd CD out!. All the time the computer is on the drive is apparently >> grinding away (he thinks trying to eject the CD.. >> >> He's pressed the eject button, etc. I've made one or two suggestion >> like shake (gently!) or try to ease it out or alignit with the slot >> using another CD, but I'm not very hopeful! There's no Apple >> specialist near us (on the North Wales coast), though we have found >> the address of one in Denbigh. >> >> He wouldn't be keen on trying to open the computer up himself. >> >> Any ideas. (Did I hear "Take it to Denbigh!"?) >> >> Gordon. >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:01:07 +0000 > From: "G.Howells" > Subject: Re: [NMUG] CD drive problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > > Thankyou to everyone who gave ideas. I have passed them on to my > friend. > > Gordon. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 60, Issue 21 > ************************************ > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Mar 12 19:39:16 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:39:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence Message-ID: Simon wrote regarding the Validation (or in his case, the invalidation) of his pages using the tool provided by the Web's definitions body's online page validation service: "Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them were rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I hadn't." No, if the validator says you have an error, you have an error. You just haven't looked hard enough. It is perhaps unhelpful to any aspiration for improvement to imagine even a relatively experienced html coder would be right and the W3 Consortium is wrong, don't you think? Go to the back of the class and say your Unicode tables. If you are seeing errors relating to the closing of code, this is an area that needs to be well understood to always get it right. I get the same errors sometimes. I am trying to discover what I am doing wrong. Something subtle is going on. -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 20:13:22 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 20:13:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stefan Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only the line but the offending article. It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is there. So what gives. k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 12 2009, Stefan Youngs wrote: Simon wrote regarding the Validation (or in his case, the invalidation) of his pages using the tool provided by the Web's definitions body's online page validation service: "Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them were rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I hadn't." No, if the validator says you have an error, you have an error. You just haven't looked hard enough. It is perhaps unhelpful to any aspiration for improvement to imagine even a relatively experienced html coder would be right and the W3 Consortium is wrong, don't you think? Go to the back of the class and say your Unicode tables. If you are seeing errors relating to the closing of code, this is an area that needs to be well understood to always get it right. I get the same errors sometimes. I am trying to discover what I am doing wrong. Something subtle is going on. From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 12 20:32:53 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:32:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Nettiquette In-Reply-To: <663C8EBD-E56A-483E-A8F0-FF10BFFFC7E9@waitrose.com> References: <20090124120004.0F7E37FD9D9@mail.durrant.co.uk> <36951396-B74A-45E1-AB66-CE6F370B119E@sizzel.net> <663C8EBD-E56A-483E-A8F0-FF10BFFFC7E9@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <26F8912A-738D-48FB-95B9-62358E304F83@durrant.co.uk> Well, it was quite obviously finger trouble - someone accidentally hit reply on a digest message, and then sent it. Please DO NOT in future send the entire thing back to the group again. When querying something like this, do SNIP the quote! Paul On 12 Mar 2009, at 19:19, Paul Harrowing wrote: > What is this?? > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 18:52, Jennifer Hannaford wrote: > > > On 24 Jan 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > >> Send NMUG mailing list submissions to >> nmug at durrant.co.uk > [SNIP!] From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Thu Mar 12 20:58:30 2009 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:58:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Nettiquette In-Reply-To: <26F8912A-738D-48FB-95B9-62358E304F83@durrant.co.uk> References: <20090124120004.0F7E37FD9D9@mail.durrant.co.uk> <36951396-B74A-45E1-AB66-CE6F370B119E@sizzel.net> <663C8EBD-E56A-483E-A8F0-FF10BFFFC7E9@waitrose.com> <26F8912A-738D-48FB-95B9-62358E304F83@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: That was my point. PAH Snip From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Thu Mar 12 21:04:28 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:04:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Simon Royal wrote: > Stefan > > Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only > the line but the offending article. > > It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is > there. So what gives. > > ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for > instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. That's line 15 of is it not? The validator is not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' attribute. The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which should be written '&' or '&' HTH Alan Fry > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 12 2009, Stefan Youngs wrote: > > Simon wrote regarding the Validation (or in his case, the > invalidation) of > his pages using the tool provided by the Web's definitions body's > online > page validation service: > > "Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them were > rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I > hadn't." > > > No, if the validator says you have an error, you have an error. You > just > haven't looked hard enough. It is perhaps unhelpful to any > aspiration for > improvement to imagine even a relatively experienced html coder > would be > right and the W3 Consortium is wrong, don't you think? Go to the > back of the > class and say your Unicode tables. > > If you are seeing errors relating to the closing of code, > this is > an area that needs to be well understood to always get it right. I > get the > same errors sometimes. I am trying to discover what I am doing wrong. > Something subtle is going on. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Mar 12 21:58:37 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:58:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It looked a very useful tool to one, like me, who handcodes without much knowledge in depth. So I tried it on my site and came up with 118 errors, a lot of which were missing Alt attributes and other simple issues like not putting double quotes round quantities or names. Some looked more serious but I didn't understand them fully! Ironically several of these were in code supplied directly by Google to display their search engine for my site. Now how seriously do I need to take this? My pages seem to display exactly as I intend and I don't get any reports of failures. So clearly the browsers are much more forgiving than the W3 Consortium. Do I need to worry? Best wishes, David >On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Aan Fry wrote: > >>Stefan >> >>Using the validation tool that I was sent - it >>tells you not only the line but the offending >>article. >> >>It is telling me I have a missing > when I >>check the code it is there. So what gives. >> >>?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - >>like here for instance. It says I am missing >>a > after "0" but I am not. > >That's line 15 of is it >not? The validator is not complaining about the >angle bracket but the missing 'alt' attribute. > >The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded >ampersands which should be written '&' or >'&' > >HTH > -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 12 22:17:50 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:17:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you do a lot of hand-coded HTML, I highly recommend BBEdit, which can do previews and syntax check, as well as having lots of other things useful to the HTML coder. $125 but well worth it IMO. BBEdit 9.1 - it doesn't suck. http://www.bbedit.com/products/bbedit/ As for whether it's worth fixing the syntax error, IMO yes, it is. Some are trivial and all browsers will ignore them. Others might cause different behaviour on different or future browsers. And if you fix the all the errors, you don't have to worry about which errors are significant, or whether the error count has gone up after an edit. It's rather like the question of whether you should eliminate warnings when compiling code. Again, IMO it's best to do so, as then you'll notice when there are important warnings. Paul On 12 Mar 2009, at 21:58, David Van Edwards wrote: > It looked a very useful tool to one, like me, who handcodes without > much knowledge in depth. So I tried it on my site and came up with > 118 errors, a lot of which were missing Alt attributes and other > simple issues like not putting double quotes round quantities or > names. Some looked more serious but I didn't understand them fully! > Ironically several of these were in code supplied directly by Google > to display their search engine for my site. > > Now how seriously do I need to take this? My pages seem to display > exactly as I intend and I don't get any reports of failures. So > clearly the browsers are much more forgiving than the W3 Consortium. > Do I need to worry? > > Best wishes, > > David > >> On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Aan Fry wrote: >> >>> Stefan >>> >>> Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only >>> the line but the offending article. >>> >>> It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is >>> there. So what gives. >>> >>> ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for >>> instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. >> >> That's line 15 of is it not? The validator >> is not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' >> attribute. >> >> The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which >> should be written '&' or '&' >> >> HTH >> > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ricnev at mac.com Thu Mar 12 22:20:46 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:20:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why have standards? Richard. On 12 Mar 2009, at 21:58, David Van Edwards wrote: > It looked a very useful tool to one, like me, who handcodes without > much knowledge in depth. So I tried it on my site and came up with > 118 errors, a lot of which were missing Alt attributes and other > simple issues like not putting double quotes round quantities or > names. Some looked more serious but I didn't understand them fully! > Ironically several of these were in code supplied directly by > Google to display their search engine for my site. > > Now how seriously do I need to take this? My pages seem to display > exactly as I intend and I don't get any reports of failures. So > clearly the browsers are much more forgiving than the W3 > Consortium. Do I need to worry? > > Best wishes, > > David > >> On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Aan Fry wrote: >> >>> Stefan >>> >>> Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only >>> the line but the offending article. >>> >>> It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is >>> there. So what gives. >>> >>> ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for >>> instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. >> >> That's line 15 of is it not? The validator >> is not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' >> attribute. >> >> The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which >> should be written '&' or '&' >> >> HTH >> > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 22:27:28 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 22:27:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David I too have just spent the last few hours cleaning up my 'mistakes' and a lot of them as you said are code supplied by Google. I suggest you - like me - clean up the big bulk of it and don't worry too much about the rest. Like you said your pages view as you wanted them too anyway. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 12 2009, David Van Edwards wrote: It looked a very useful tool to one, like me, who handcodes without much knowledge in depth. So I tried it on my site and came up with 118 errors, a lot of which were missing Alt attributes and other simple issues like not putting double quotes round quantities or names. Some looked more serious but I didn't understand them fully! Ironically several of these were in code supplied directly by Google to display their search engine for my site. Now how seriously do I need to take this? My pages seem to display exactly as I intend and I don't get any reports of failures. So clearly the browsers are much more forgiving than the W3 Consortium. Do I need to worry? Best wishes, David >On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Aan Fry wrote: > >>Stefan >> >>Using the validation tool that I was sent - it >>tells you not only the line but the offending >>article. >> >>It is telling me I have a missing > when I >>check the code it is there. So what gives. >> >>?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - >>like here for instance. It says I am missing >>a > after "0" but I am not. > >That's line 15 of is it >not? The validator is not complaining about the >angle bracket but the missing 'alt' attribute. > >The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded >ampersands which should be written '&' or >'&' > >HTH > -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 12 22:28:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Mar 2009 22:28:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul I hand write all my code - except those that are supplied by Google and the such like. I use TextWrangler, which is free and also has syntax checking. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 12 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: If you do a lot of hand-coded HTML, I highly recommend BBEdit, which can do previews and syntax check, as well as having lots of other things useful to the HTML coder. $125 but well worth it IMO. BBEdit 9.1 - it doesn't suck. http://www.bbedit.com/products/bbedit/ As for whether it's worth fixing the syntax error, IMO yes, it is. Some are trivial and all browsers will ignore them. Others might cause different behaviour on different or future browsers. And if you fix the all the errors, you don't have to worry about which errors are significant, or whether the error count has gone up after an edit. It's rather like the question of whether you should eliminate warnings when compiling code. Again, IMO it's best to do so, as then you'll notice when there are important warnings. Paul On 12 Mar 2009, at 21:58, David Van Edwards wrote: > It looked a very useful tool to one, like me, who handcodes without > much knowledge in depth. So I tried it on my site and came up with > 118 errors, a lot of which were missing Alt attributes and other > simple issues like not putting double quotes round quantities or > names. Some looked more serious but I didn't understand them fully! > Ironically several of these were in code supplied directly by Google > to display their search engine for my site. > > Now how seriously do I need to take this? My pages seem to display > exactly as I intend and I don't get any reports of failures. So > clearly the browsers are much more forgiving than the W3 Consortium. > Do I need to worry? > > Best wishes, > > David > >> On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Aan Fry wrote: >> >>> Stefan >>> >>> Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only >>> the line but the offending article. >>> >>> It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is >>> there. So what gives. >>> >>> ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for >>> instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. >> >> That's line 15 of is it not? The validator >> is not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' >> attribute. >> >> The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which >> should be written '&' or '&' >> >> HTH >> > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Mar 12 23:19:22 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:19:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The validity of Validation Message-ID: I'm glad my comments to Simon about the validity of the Validator rang true with so many. To the question: does it matter if my pages are riddled with errors if they display OK? Yes, it matters. The days when you could expect just one or two browsers to be interpreting your masterworks are long gone. You cannot even depend on your pages being viewed on a computer these days. Almost every browser handles html slightly differently, some forgive Little Error X, others go haywire when they encounter it. All you can do is ensure your code complies with the standard, hence the Validator. That's your best chance of your pages displaying correctly on the web-enabled vacuum cleaner Virgin are doubtlessly planning to release. Mention was made of slack coding omitting the alt part of many statements. This is a non-trivial matter: search engines use the alt contents, for example, if it isn't there, the image description will not be indexed, many devices strip out the image but will use the alt text so the viewer can see what he is not displaying, so to speak. It's important to include alt text whenever called for If you use the Validator properly and try to get a zero error count on every page, you will end up a better writer. There's a LOT of subtle thinking gone into the browsing experience by chaps and chapesses with big glasses, none of it is simply an exercise in futility, everything has a purpose. So, for example, Simon the Invalid's issue: "It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is there. So what gives. ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not." The Validator is probably indicating there is something incorrect inside the part that leads it to conclude this part is invalid. It will then complain about the part since it doesn't consider the part is either open or finished. Look hard enough and you will find it. I have similar examples, as I said. I haven't tracked them all down yet. BTW Simon, you are not ending your page incorrectly. Have you seen why? -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 13 00:21:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:21:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence Message-ID: Hi. I have cleaned up a lot tonight and most of those left are ampersands. Can I simply replace all single placed & with & Even in links? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence From: Alan Fry Date: 12/03/2009 21:04 On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Simon Royal wrote: > Stefan > > Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only > the line but the offending article. > > It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is > there. So what gives. > > ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for > instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. That's line 15 of is it not? The validator is not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' attribute. The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which should be written '&' or '&' HTH Alan Fry > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 12 2009, Stefan Youngs wrote: > > Simon wrote regarding the Validation (or in his case, the > invalidation) of > his pages using the tool provided by the Web's definitions body's > online > page validation service: > > "Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them were > rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I > hadn't." > > > No, if the validator says you have an error, you have an error. You > just > haven't looked hard enough. It is perhaps unhelpful to any > aspiration for > improvement to imagine even a relatively experienced html coder > would be > right and the W3 Consortium is wrong, don't you think? Go to the > back of the > class and say your Unicode tables. > > If you are seeing errors relating to the closing of code, > this is > an area that needs to be well understood to always get it right. I > get the > same errors sometimes. I am trying to discover what I am doing wrong. > Something subtle is going on. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Fri Mar 13 00:37:50 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:37:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Nettiquette In-Reply-To: Message-ID: but what was the question amidst the digest? regards Brian Paul Harrowing said recently: > That was my point. > > PAH > > Snip > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Fri Mar 13 08:36:31 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:36:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] The validity of Validation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE5B3E4-A035-47B5-9265-412866A3AFCC@virgin.net> Where can I get one? Nathan On 12 Mar 2009, at 23:19, Stefan Youngs wrote: > > That's your best chance of > your pages displaying correctly on the web-enabled vacuum cleaner > Virgin are > doubtlessly planning to release. > From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 13 10:00:27 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:00:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2009, at 00:21, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I have cleaned up a lot tonight and most of those left are ampersands. > > Can I simply replace all single placed & with & > > Even in links? Definitely yes. When a browser encounters the character '&' it assumes the following string to be an 'encoded entity'. It then looks up the string (for example '#39' or 'apos' for an 'apostrophe') in the list of 'html entities'. If it cannot find it an error results. Some browsers are clever enough to ignore the error; some are not. If an unencoded ampersand is in a link there is a good chance the link will sometimes fail. It is safer generally IMHO to use the numeric encoding. For instance in some versions of IE ''' will be recognised but ''' will not. BTW the tag is deprecated and has never been part of the 4.01 DTD specification. It will always show as an error. However, I think it is possible to work round this problem with JavaScript. Alan Fry > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Simon's Invalid Confidence > From: Alan Fry > Date: 12/03/2009 21:04 > > > On 12 Mar 2009, at 20:13, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Stefan >> >> Using the validation tool that I was sent - it tells you not only >> the line but the offending article. >> >> It is telling me I have a missing > when I check the code it is >> there. So what gives. >> >> ?k/pics/site/srheader7.png" border="0"> - like here for >> instance. It says I am missing a > after "0" but I am not. > > That's line 15 of is it not? The validator is > not complaining about the angle bracket but the missing 'alt' > attribute. > > The bulk of the 45 errors seem to be unencoded ampersands which should > be written '&' or '&' > > HTH > > Alan Fry > >> --- >> Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... >> >> Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX >> 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... >> >> The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. >> >> >> On Mar 12 2009, Stefan Youngs wrote: >> >> Simon wrote regarding the Validation (or in his case, the >> invalidation) of >> his pages using the tool provided by the Web's definitions body's >> online >> page validation service: >> >> "Thanks for that. I have run through the validator. A lot of them >> were >> rubbish. Telling me I had missing close tags when quite clearly I >> hadn't." >> >> >> No, if the validator says you have an error, you have an error. You >> just >> haven't looked hard enough. It is perhaps unhelpful to any >> aspiration for >> improvement to imagine even a relatively experienced html coder >> would be >> right and the W3 Consortium is wrong, don't you think? Go to the >> back of the >> class and say your Unicode tables. >> >> If you are seeing errors relating to the closing of code, >> this is >> an area that needs to be well understood to always get it right. I >> get the >> same errors sometimes. I am trying to discover what I am doing wrong. >> Something subtle is going on. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 13 11:47:37 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 13 Mar 2009 11:47:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Site Help... Thank You Message-ID: Hi Thank you all for your help in sorting out my site. I have spent about 6 hours cleaning code and tweaking the design. I have now finished for a while. Hopefully it should make a difference. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 13 12:33:05 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:33:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner Message-ID: Nathan asks where he may get one: I believe MFI placed a warehouse bulging order - and of course paid cash up front - a few months ago. It is believed the order was underwritten by RBS. Some restrictions as to the use of this device have begun to appear in blogs around the world: (1) it will apparently only suck at 10% power during peak hours (2) it will link seamlessly to iTunes BUT only for content purchased from Virgin's online store: playing other material will further reduce suction (3) contents of the Disposal Bag must be disposed off in special containers which will be made available to interested 3rd parties without further reference to yourself for the purposes of analysing your lifestyle and targetting you for yet more advertising, or a visit from Inspector Knacker of the Anti Terrorist Squad (4) random ads from Beardie will boom around your house extolling the advantage of travelling on his trains and spaceships and offering '2 for 1' on Mates. These may be suppressed for a monthly fee, however. -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From griffy04 at mac.com Fri Mar 13 14:05:46 2009 From: griffy04 at mac.com (David Griffiths) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:05:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C3E0117-3087-4DC4-A412-5050B2951FCB@mac.com> Supposed to be funny, or informative? Failed. On 13 Mar 2009, at 12:33, Stefan Youngs wrote: > Nathan asks where he may get one: > I believe MFI placed a warehouse bulging order - and of course paid > cash up > front - a few months ago. It is believed the order was underwritten > by RBS. > > Some restrictions as to the use of this device have begun to appear > in blogs > around the world: > > (1) it will apparently only suck at 10% power during peak hours > > (2) it will link seamlessly to iTunes BUT only for content purchased > from > Virgin's online store: playing other material will further reduce > suction > > (3) contents of the Disposal Bag must be disposed off in special > containers > which will be made available to interested 3rd parties without further > reference to yourself for the purposes of analysing your lifestyle and > targetting you for yet more advertising, or a visit from Inspector > Knacker > of the Anti Terrorist Squad > > (4) random ads from Beardie will boom around your house extolling the > advantage of travelling on his trains and spaceships and offering '2 > for 1' > on Mates. These may be suppressed for a monthly fee, however. > > -- > Stefan Youngs > Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 > FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 > skype me at stefanyoungs > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Fri Mar 13 14:16:26 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:16:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner In-Reply-To: <7C3E0117-3087-4DC4-A412-5050B2951FCB@mac.com> References: <7C3E0117-3087-4DC4-A412-5050B2951FCB@mac.com> Message-ID: <49BA6ABA.1080008@davidviner.com> Well, I found it amusing! So I vote for NOT failed ;-) David Griffiths wrote: > Supposed to be funny, or informative? > > Failed. > > > On 13 Mar 2009, at 12:33, Stefan Youngs wrote: > >> Nathan asks where he may get one: >> I believe MFI placed a warehouse bulging order - and of course paid >> cash up >> front - a few months ago. It is believed the order was underwritten >> by RBS. >> >> Some restrictions as to the use of this device have begun to appear >> in blogs >> around the world: >> >> (1) it will apparently only suck at 10% power during peak hours >> >> (2) it will link seamlessly to iTunes BUT only for content purchased >> from >> Virgin's online store: playing other material will further reduce >> suction >> >> (3) contents of the Disposal Bag must be disposed off in special >> containers >> which will be made available to interested 3rd parties without further >> reference to yourself for the purposes of analysing your lifestyle and >> targetting you for yet more advertising, or a visit from Inspector >> Knacker >> of the Anti Terrorist Squad >> >> (4) random ads from Beardie will boom around your house extolling the >> advantage of travelling on his trains and spaceships and offering '2 >> for 1' >> on Mates. These may be suppressed for a monthly fee, however. >> >> -- >> Stefan Youngs >> Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 >> FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 >> skype me at stefanyoungs >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 13 15:23:06 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:23:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Site Help... Thank You In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23237FEB-8723-41B7-AC19-A2CD4362F5E7@afco.demon.co.uk> On 13 Mar 2009, at 11:47, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Thank you all for your help in sorting out my site. I have spent > about 6 hours cleaning code and tweaking the design. > > I have now finished for a while. Hopefully it should make a > difference. There are still 6 errors connected with the tag. If you wanted to, you could get rid of these with the following: In the section put: In your 'css' file define: #age {width: 185px; height: 35px;} In the section put:
That works fine and w3's validator is happy with it. It would probably be better to download the javascript tool 'flashembed' and incorporate that in a local '.js' file rather than call it up on the fly from the remote source each time. Hope this helps, Alan Fry > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 13 15:33:11 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (Stefan Youngs) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:33:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner In-Reply-To: References: <9FD2CD4A-7F2C-4647-A91D-F2E21B67766A@f2s.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stefan Youngs Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner To: Robbie Murray Good One! I hadn't thought of a name... very important though in getting over not only the product's purpose but the company ethos.. sucker is just about right on both counts! On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Robbie Murray wrote: > What's it called - the Virgin Sucker? > > Robbie > > -- Stefan Youngs Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 skype me at stefanyoungs From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sat Mar 14 07:55:11 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:55:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin Net Enabled Vacuum Cleaner In-Reply-To: <49BA6ABA.1080008@davidviner.com> References: <7C3E0117-3087-4DC4-A412-5050B2951FCB@mac.com> <49BA6ABA.1080008@davidviner.com> Message-ID: Me too Nathan On 13 Mar 2009, at 14:16, David Viner wrote: > Well, I found it amusing! So I vote for NOT failed ;-) > > David Griffiths wrote: >> Supposed to be funny, or informative? >> >> Failed. >> >> >> On 13 Mar 2009, at 12:33, Stefan Youngs wrote: >> >>> Nathan asks where he may get one: >>> I believe MFI placed a warehouse bulging order - and of course >>> paid cash up >>> front - a few months ago. It is believed the order was >>> underwritten by RBS. >>> >>> Some restrictions as to the use of this device have begun to >>> appear in blogs >>> around the world: >>> >>> (1) it will apparently only suck at 10% power during peak hours >>> >>> (2) it will link seamlessly to iTunes BUT only for content >>> purchased from >>> Virgin's online store: playing other material will further reduce >>> suction >>> >>> (3) contents of the Disposal Bag must be disposed off in special >>> containers >>> which will be made available to interested 3rd parties without >>> further >>> reference to yourself for the purposes of analysing your lifestyle >>> and >>> targetting you for yet more advertising, or a visit from Inspector >>> Knacker >>> of the Anti Terrorist Squad >>> >>> (4) random ads from Beardie will boom around your house extolling >>> the >>> advantage of travelling on his trains and spaceships and offering >>> '2 for 1' >>> on Mates. These may be suppressed for a monthly fee, however. >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Youngs >>> Tel: +1 (415) 449 1771 >>> FAX: +1 (206) 237 4155 >>> skype me at stefanyoungs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sat Mar 14 11:15:03 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:15:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: I'm gone References: <703CBC61-6064-4426-815F-B747877791C4@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > > Goodbye everyone. > > After many years of being an NMUG member and being singled out by > the webmaster on a number of occasions for making comments which he > took exception to I have finally decided he's right and that I > should not be on here so I have unsubscribed. > > I would just like to say a special good bye to Nat, who I haven't > seen in too long, to Paul C, Angie, Dunc, and anyone else who > remembers me from Dave's and my days at JLP. > > My inbox will miss you all. > > PAH > > XXX From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 14 11:21:52 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 14 Mar 2009 11:21:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: I'm gone In-Reply-To: References: <703CBC61-6064-4426-815F-B747877791C4@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Hi As one who often posts outlandish posts and someone who doesn't tend to bite his tongue - I have had more than my fair share of 'comments' from other users. PAH will be sadly missed from the group. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 14 2009, nathan crosby wrote: Begin forwarded message: > > Goodbye everyone. > > After many years of being an NMUG member and being singled out by > the webmaster on a number of occasions for making comments which he > took exception to I have finally decided he's right and that I > should not be on here so I have unsubscribed. > > I would just like to say a special good bye to Nat, who I haven't > seen in too long, to Paul C, Angie, Dunc, and anyone else who > remembers me from Dave's and my days at JLP. > > My inbox will miss you all. > > PAH > > XXX _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sat Mar 14 11:26:51 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:26:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: I'm Gone In-Reply-To: References: <703CBC61-6064-4426-815F-B747877791C4@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Yes I am still here. Rumours of my unsubscribing have been greatly exaggerated. I forwarded the message on behalf of Paul Harrowing Nathan On 14 Mar 2009, at 11:19, Simon Royal wrote: > Nathan > > You will be missed. As someone who always sits near the mark I too > have had my far share of comments from other users. > > Rise above it or if you can't join them, beat them. > > Stay with us and enjoy me winding those 'up themselves' on the group > - which seems like my only source of fun sometimes. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 14 2009, nathan crosby wrote: > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> >> Goodbye everyone. >> >> After many years of being an NMUG member and being singled out by >> the webmaster on a number of occasions for making comments which >> he took exception to I have finally decided he's right and that I >> should not be on here so I have unsubscribed. >> >> I would just like to say a special good bye to Nat, who I haven't >> seen in too long, to Paul C, Angie, Dunc, and anyone else who >> remembers me from Dave's and my days at JLP. >> >> My inbox will miss you all. >> >> PAH >> >> XXX > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From alanbarber at mac.com Sat Mar 14 11:46:31 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:46:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PAH Message-ID: I suspect PAH has gone on his hols! Regards Alan From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Sun Mar 15 20:40:21 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:40:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] O/S 10.4.11 Message-ID: Hi all On my Macbook pro intel I am running O/S 10.4.8. Is it best & safe to update to O/S 10.4.11? Regards Martin From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 15 20:45:54 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Mar 2009 20:45:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] O/S 10.4.11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Martin Yes, but download the Combo updater from the Apple website and not Software Update. I have always used the Software Update method, but going from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 on three machines via the Software Update method caused blue screen on reboot. 10.4.11 is the last update for Tiger and has some serious improvements as well as security updates. Security updates are still being released for Tiger but only if you have 10.4.11 - for how much longer this is I don't know. If you have an MacBook Pro I would recommend Leopard. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 15 2009, Martin Fry wrote: Hi all On my Macbook pro intel I am running O/S 10.4.8. Is it best & safe to update to O/S 10.4.11? Regards Martin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at me.com Mon Mar 16 11:20:47 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:20:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac or MacBook Message-ID: <604C3D28-E1ED-462F-B2A2-DEE61F535AAA@me.com> Hi Recently somebody posted an old iMac for sale and wondered if it was still available. I am looking for a reasonably spec'd machine (iMac or book) for general home use at a good price. Preferably with enough spec to run leopard but would use tiger if not. Can anyone help? Jon Apple Solutions Consultant Sent from my iPhone From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Mar 16 12:40:38 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:40:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac or MacBook In-Reply-To: <604C3D28-E1ED-462F-B2A2-DEE61F535AAA@me.com> References: <604C3D28-E1ED-462F-B2A2-DEE61F535AAA@me.com> Message-ID: Dear Jon, I think you might mean my post, but it has now gone to another fellow NMUGGER Good luck, David >Hi >Recently somebody posted an old iMac for sale and wondered if it was >still available. I am looking for a reasonably spec'd machine (iMac >or book) for general home use at a good price. Preferably with >enough spec to run leopard but would use tiger if not. > >Can anyone help? > >Jon >Apple Solutions Consultant > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 16 13:37:16 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:37:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... Message-ID: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> http://www.speedtest.net/index.php Results broadly in line with my usual testers - http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ http://www.speedtest.net/index.php .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. Quite useful! Robbie From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 16 13:48:39 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:48:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... In-Reply-To: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> References: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> Message-ID: <49BE58B7.1090605@davidviner.com> Robbie Your "new" one is the same as one of your two usual ones - was that a cut'n'paste accident? I normally use speedtest.net as well. David Robbie Murray wrote: > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > Results broadly in line with my usual testers - > > http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ > > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. > > Quite useful! > > Robbie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 16 14:19:37 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:19:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... In-Reply-To: <49BE58B7.1090605@davidviner.com> References: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> <49BE58B7.1090605@davidviner.com> Message-ID: Well spotted David - just testing to see you were all paying attention! Apologies - a senior moment: this is the one ... http://www.speed.io/index_en.html Sorry Robbie On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:48, David Viner wrote: Robbie Your "new" one is the same as one of your two usual ones - was that a cut'n'paste accident? I normally use speedtest.net as well. David Robbie Murray wrote: > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > Results broadly in line with my usual testers - > > http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ > > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. > > Quite useful! > > Robbie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Mon Mar 16 14:55:36 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:55:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... In-Reply-To: References: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> <49BE58B7.1090605@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <49BE6868.4070100@davidviner.com> Cheers Robbie That was a new one for me, too. David Robbie Murray wrote: > Well spotted David - just testing to see you were all paying attention! > > Apologies - a senior moment: this is the one ... > > http://www.speed.io/index_en.html > > Sorry > > Robbie > > > > > > On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:48, David Viner wrote: > > Robbie > > Your "new" one is the same as one of your two usual ones - was that a > cut'n'paste accident? > > I normally use speedtest.net as well. > > David > > > Robbie Murray wrote: >> http://www.speedtest.net/index.php >> >> Results broadly in line with my usual testers - >> >> http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ >> >> http://www.speedtest.net/index.php >> >> .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. >> >> Quite useful! >> >> Robbie >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 16 15:32:32 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Mar 2009 15:32:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... In-Reply-To: References: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> Message-ID: Hi Interesting. I got losey results a week ago, less than half a MB, but today I got 6.5MB. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 16 2009, Robbie Murray wrote: Well spotted David - just testing to see you were all paying attention! Apologies - a senior moment: this is the one ... http://www.speed.io/index_en.html Sorry Robbie On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:48, David Viner wrote: Robbie Your "new" one is the same as one of your two usual ones - was that a cut'n'paste accident? I normally use speedtest.net as well. David Robbie Murray wrote: > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > Results broadly in line with my usual testers - > > http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ > > http://www.speedtest.net/index.php > > .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. > > Quite useful! > > Robbie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 16 15:32:45 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:32:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Just came across this speed tester I hadn't heard about before ... In-Reply-To: <49BE6868.4070100@davidviner.com> References: <89469CB3-05BF-4090-A6C4-8DD5287D1B30@f2s.com> <49BE58B7.1090605@davidviner.com> <49BE6868.4070100@davidviner.com> Message-ID: Quite useful, and less painful than speedtest.net - saves having the big yellow ball crashing into my head each time! Day to day I tend to use the mybroadbandspeed one, as it it autosaves each test result and displays chronologically, so is very handy for comparison. Both of these appear to use the same engine, so it's useful to see an alternative simply for confirmation, and as I said, all three return basically similar results. Robbie On 16 Mar 2009, at 14:55, David Viner wrote: Cheers Robbie That was a new one for me, too. David Robbie Murray wrote: > Well spotted David - just testing to see you were all paying > attention! > > Apologies - a senior moment: this is the one ... > > http://www.speed.io/index_en.html > > Sorry > > Robbie > > > > > > On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:48, David Viner wrote: > > Robbie > > Your "new" one is the same as one of your two usual ones - was that > a cut'n'paste accident? > > I normally use speedtest.net as well. > > David > > > Robbie Murray wrote: >> http://www.speedtest.net/index.php >> >> Results broadly in line with my usual testers - >> >> http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ >> >> http://www.speedtest.net/index.php >> >> .... but also reports ping results and number of connections. >> >> Quite useful! >> >> Robbie >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 16 21:52:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:52:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Nettiquette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <542BFFCF-DC19-44BF-8CF3-468EFD2A747A@durrant.co.uk> There wasn't one - it was just an accident. Paul On 13 Mar 2009, at 00:37, Brian Steere wrote: > but what was the question amidst the digest? > regards > Brian > > > Paul Harrowing said recently: > >> That was my point. >> >> PAH >> >> Snip >> From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 16 22:01:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:01:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: I'm gone In-Reply-To: References: <703CBC61-6064-4426-815F-B747877791C4@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <41C07299-E991-45F1-86F7-07A596321B9C@durrant.co.uk> I'm sorry to hear that Paul H's decided to unsubscribe. If I do send anyone an email about their posts, it's only with the intention of improving the list for everyone. It's certainly not to discourage people from posting or to stop them being part of the group. Paul On 14 Mar 2009, at 11:15, nathan crosby wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> >> Goodbye everyone. >> >> After many years of being an NMUG member and being singled out by >> the webmaster on a number of occasions for making comments which he >> took exception to I have finally decided he's right and that I >> should not be on here so I have unsubscribed. >> >> I would just like to say a special good bye to Nat, who I haven't >> seen in too long, to Paul C, Angie, Dunc, and anyone else who >> remembers me from Dave's and my days at JLP. >> >> My inbox will miss you all. >> >> PAH >> >> XXX > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 16 22:03:54 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Mar 2009 22:03:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: I'm gone In-Reply-To: <41C07299-E991-45F1-86F7-07A596321B9C@durrant.co.uk> References: <703CBC61-6064-4426-815F-B747877791C4@waitrose.com> <41C07299-E991-45F1-86F7-07A596321B9C@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul Paul H will be sadly missed. Could we get him back do you think. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 16 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: I'm sorry to hear that Paul H's decided to unsubscribe. If I do send anyone an email about their posts, it's only with the intention of improving the list for everyone. It's certainly not to discourage people from posting or to stop them being part of the group. Paul On 14 Mar 2009, at 11:15, nathan crosby wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> >> Goodbye everyone. >> >> After many years of being an NMUG member and being singled out by >> the webmaster on a number of occasions for making comments which he >> took exception to I have finally decided he's right and that I >> should not be on here so I have unsubscribed. >> >> I would just like to say a special good bye to Nat, who I haven't >> seen in too long, to Paul C, Angie, Dunc, and anyone else who >> remembers me from Dave's and my days at JLP. >> >> My inbox will miss you all. >> >> PAH >> >> XXX > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 16 22:06:17 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:06:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Backups Message-ID: <613BB94B-1CB5-4944-BF4C-930AE46E026F@durrant.co.uk> The subject of back-ups often crops up at meetings. It might be that I raise it at meetings a lot, because I'm firmly of the opinion that the only certain thing about hard disks is that they will fail. My Macbook's hard disk failed on Saturday morning. I have now recovered everything from tape backups, but it was a tedious and slow process. If I had had a Time Machine backup, I would have been fully restored by Saturday evening. As it is, I've only got fully restored this evening. And yes, I now have a Time Machine volume on my MacBook as well as my tape backups! Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for a Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an external disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. regards, Paul From macman at f2s.com Mon Mar 16 22:45:47 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Backups In-Reply-To: <613BB94B-1CB5-4944-BF4C-930AE46E026F@durrant.co.uk> References: <613BB94B-1CB5-4944-BF4C-930AE46E026F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <6C07C71C-D894-41A0-BB66-2C19A9B44841@f2s.com> Seconded! Robbie On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:06, Paul Durrant wrote: The subject of back-ups often crops up at meetings. It might be that I raise it at meetings a lot, because I'm firmly of the opinion that the only certain thing about hard disks is that they will fail. My Macbook's hard disk failed on Saturday morning. I have now recovered everything from tape backups, but it was a tedious and slow process. If I had had a Time Machine backup, I would have been fully restored by Saturday evening. As it is, I've only got fully restored this evening. And yes, I now have a Time Machine volume on my MacBook as well as my tape backups! Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for a Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an external disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. regards, Paul _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Mar 16 22:54:28 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:54:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Backups: Out of the dark ages Message-ID: I'd like to backup what Paul said about backups. Hard disks fail. It's a fact of life. They fail when you are least expecting them to, and often at the worst of times: just when you need the machine. This is of course Murphy's Law in full fledged flight. I have just completed my first experience of recovering from the total loss of my MacBook's hard disk, using Apple's utterly brilliant TimeMachine solution. I've previously used TimeMachine to recover deleted or inadvertently changed files, at which it excels. It really is a one-click recover solution. This time I had to get back the whole disk, and I wanted to have everything restored: all the bookmarks, the iCal entries, my Skype history, everything. I have been running TimeMachine for my entire MacBook disk onto an external, so I knew all the data I needed was there, but would it all get back in the right place when I restored? Or would I have to do lots of manual fiddling? In the past, whenever I've had to restore, lots of little system files were missed and I'd have to spend hours if not days trying tog et everything back in sync. This time, it couldn't have been simpler. I booted from the Install DVD. The software offers an Option to restore From Backup. I clicked that, the TimeMachine external was recognized, I selected that and then chose the new MacBook internal as the destination. I was warned this would be erased, I clicked OK and a couple of hours later, I was back with everything in place. I know to many this will seem obvious and you'll ask what is this guy making a fuss about? All I can say is, nobody who had to do a restore using any other method would ask that question. Apple really has, yet gain, excelled itself. Go out and get yourself an external and implement TimeMachine. You know if makes sense! From allan at dsol.co.uk Mon Mar 16 22:56:35 2009 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:56:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Backups In-Reply-To: <6C07C71C-D894-41A0-BB66-2C19A9B44841@f2s.com> References: <613BB94B-1CB5-4944-BF4C-930AE46E026F@durrant.co.uk> <6C07C71C-D894-41A0-BB66-2C19A9B44841@f2s.com> Message-ID: <809BDAFD-17A1-41D4-9A1C-535744D8A55B@dsol.co.uk> On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:45, Robbie Murray wrote: > Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for > a Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an > external disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. > > regards, > > Paul Couldn't agree more. Allan Johns From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Tue Mar 17 14:13:42 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:13:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up In-Reply-To: <20090317120003.ABC32839646@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090317120003.ABC32839646@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <13D64EF3-2F1A-47C9-B39D-479E64057E71@virgin.net> All this talk of backing up seems very sensible and I've been trying to do just that. However whether I use carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper, after 20 minutes or less I get the dreaded kernal panic notice! I'm running Tiger 10.5.11 and have tried Disk Utilities, verify, and repair disk but to no avail. Any ideas please? Ken On 17 Mar 2009, at 12:00 PM, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Backups (Robbie Murray) > 2. Backups: Out of the dark ages (stefan youngs) > 3. Re: Backups (Allan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:47 +0000 > From: Robbie Murray > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Backups > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <6C07C71C-D894-41A0-BB66-2C19A9B44841 at f2s.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Seconded! > > Robbie > > On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:06, Paul Durrant wrote: > > The subject of back-ups often crops up at meetings. It might be that I > raise it at meetings a lot, because I'm firmly of the opinion that the > only certain thing about hard disks is that they will fail. > > My Macbook's hard disk failed on Saturday morning. > > I have now recovered everything from tape backups, but it was a > tedious and slow process. If I had had a Time Machine backup, I would > have been fully restored by Saturday evening. As it is, I've only got > fully restored this evening. And yes, I now have a Time Machine volume > on my MacBook as well as my tape backups! > > Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for a > Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an external > disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. > > regards, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:54:28 +0000 > From: stefan youngs > Subject: [NMUG] Backups: Out of the dark ages > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I'd like to backup what Paul said about backups. > > Hard disks fail. It's a fact of life. They fail when you are least > expecting them to, and often at the worst of times: just when you need > the machine. This is of course Murphy's Law in full fledged flight. > > I have just completed my first experience of recovering from the total > loss of my MacBook's hard disk, using Apple's utterly brilliant > TimeMachine solution. I've previously used TimeMachine to recover > deleted or inadvertently changed files, at which it excels. It really > is a one-click recover solution. > > This time I had to get back the whole disk, and I wanted to have > everything restored: all the bookmarks, the iCal entries, my Skype > history, everything. > > I have been running TimeMachine for my entire MacBook disk onto an > external, so I knew all the data I needed was there, but would it all > get back in the right place when I restored? Or would I have to do > lots of manual fiddling? In the past, whenever I've had to restore, > lots of little system files were missed and I'd have to spend hours if > not days trying tog et everything back in sync. > > This time, it couldn't have been simpler. > > I booted from the Install DVD. The software offers an Option to > restore From Backup. I clicked that, the TimeMachine external was > recognized, I selected that and then chose the new MacBook internal as > the destination. I was warned this would be erased, I clicked OK and a > couple of hours later, I was back with everything in place. > > I know to many this will seem obvious and you'll ask what is this guy > making a fuss about? All I can say is, nobody who had to do a restore > using any other method would ask that question. Apple really has, yet > gain, excelled itself. > > Go out and get yourself an external and implement TimeMachine. You > know if makes sense! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:56:35 +0000 > From: Allan > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Backups > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <809BDAFD-17A1-41D4-9A1C-535744D8A55B at dsol.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > > On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:45, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for >> a Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an >> external disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul > > > Couldn't agree more. > > Allan Johns > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 > ************************************ From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 17 14:19:11 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up In-Reply-To: <13D64EF3-2F1A-47C9-B39D-479E64057E71@virgin.net> References: <20090317120003.ABC32839646@mail.durrant.co.uk> <13D64EF3-2F1A-47C9-B39D-479E64057E71@virgin.net> Message-ID: <712D0822-5F09-4F4E-A351-1162E10B5A8F@durrant.co.uk> Have you tried using Disk Utility to reformat the external drive before you start the copy? Does the Disk Utility Verify command show any problems with your internal disk? regards, Paul On 17 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > > All this talk of backing up seems very sensible and I've been trying > to do just that. However whether I use carbon Copy Cloner or > SuperDuper, after 20 minutes or less I get the dreaded kernal panic > notice! > I'm running Tiger 10.5.11 and have tried Disk Utilities, verify, and > repair disk but to no avail. > Any ideas please? > > From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Tue Mar 17 17:40:25 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Backing up Message-ID: <77E2E23F-966E-4E97-8CAD-E94B391A6870@virgin.net> Hello all, My previous posting should have read that my OS is Tiger 10.4.11 not Tiger 10.5.11! Ken From michelehurst at mac.com Wed Mar 18 13:13:42 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:13:42 -0700 Subject: [NMUG] Limewire pro Message-ID: <89766536358407102412831380227638811745-Webmail@me.com> Hi I recently downloaded the latest version of limewire pro (old one worked fine) only to find that when I try to open it it tells me it needs JAVA 1.6 . It puts up a box giving me the option of changing it to 1.5 but when I click on it it just shuts itself down again. I am running whatever the latest update of leopard is. On googling java 1.6 it appears that macOSX does not support it yet. Can anyone help me please? Michele From macman at f2s.com Wed Mar 18 17:14:52 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:14:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Limewire pro In-Reply-To: <89766536358407102412831380227638811745-Webmail@me.com> References: <89766536358407102412831380227638811745-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Michelle How techie are you? There's some advice here ..... http://blogs.sun.com/cmar/entry/java_1_6_finally_available .... but you may not wish to get too involved! I haven't used Limewire for years - ISP's can get very upset and turn the gas down on you .... Robbie On 18 Mar 2009, at 13:13, Michele Hurst wrote: Hi I recently downloaded the latest version of limewire pro (old one worked fine) only to find that when I try to open it it tells me it needs JAVA 1.6 . It puts up a box giving me the option of changing it to 1.5 but when I click on it it just shuts itself down again. I am running whatever the latest update of leopard is. On googling java 1.6 it appears that macOSX does not support it yet. Can anyone help me please? Michele _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 18:55:49 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:55:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library Message-ID: Is it possible to share iTunes libraries? All my music lives on my iMac, which I mainly use as a kind of media server. I only ever plug my iPhone into my mac book, but I'd like to fill the iPhone up with music from my iMac. I did try plugging the iPhone into the iMac, but it grumbled about having already been synced on another machine. I currently have to manually copy albums from my iMac to the mac book, and then import them into iTunes etc. Surely there must be a simpler way! any ideas? -- :wq From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 18 23:13:32 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:13:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just turn on sharing in server Mac preferences. And 'look for shared libraries' in other Macs. regards Brian Scott Matthews said recently: > Is it possible to share iTunes libraries? > > All my music lives on my iMac, which I mainly use as a kind of media > server. I only ever plug my iPhone into my mac book, but I'd like to > fill the iPhone up with music from my iMac. I did try plugging the > iPhone into the iMac, but it grumbled about having already been synced > on another machine. > > I currently have to manually copy albums from my iMac to the mac book, > and then import them into iTunes etc. Surely there must be a simpler > way! > > any ideas? From allan at dsol.co.uk Wed Mar 18 23:27:36 2009 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:27:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A6C5269-8614-4618-B181-8221977E0BBA@dsol.co.uk> On 18 Mar 2009, at 18:55, Scott Matthews wrote: > Is it possible to share iTunes libraries? > > All my music lives on my iMac, which I mainly use as a kind of media > server. I only ever plug my iPhone into my mac book, but I'd like to > fill the iPhone up with music from my iMac. I did try plugging the > iPhone into the iMac, but it grumbled about having already been synced > on another machine. > > I currently have to manually copy albums from my iMac to the mac book, > and then import them into iTunes etc. Surely there must be a simpler > way! > > any ideas? > Would something like Power Tunes be useful. http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27976/powertunes Allan Johns. From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Wed Mar 18 23:31:25 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:31:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library In-Reply-To: <2A6C5269-8614-4618-B181-8221977E0BBA@dsol.co.uk> References: <2A6C5269-8614-4618-B181-8221977E0BBA@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: <0AEF578B-5B7C-495D-81F5-1F5F2F3889EE@mac.com> What a great link ? thanks Allan. Kelvin http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com -------------- next part -------------- > > Would something like Power Tunes be useful. > > http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27976/powertunes > > Allan Johns. From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 10:07:13 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:07:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 40 Backing up In-Reply-To: <20090318120004.0B43C83A9ED@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090318120004.0B43C83A9ED@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <86EAC928-209B-4136-ACB9-7E525965A612@virgin.net> Thanks Paul, I followed your suggestion and it worked. However, after backing up I got the dreaded white letters on a black rectangle and had to restart. It seems to be happening too often now, despite doing a disk utility verity/repair! Ken On 18 Mar 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up (Ken Arnoldi) > 2. Re: Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up (Paul Durrant) > 3. Backing up (Ken Arnoldi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:13:42 +0000 > From: Ken Arnoldi > Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: <13D64EF3-2F1A-47C9-B39D-479E64057E71 at virgin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > All this talk of backing up seems very sensible and I've been trying > to do just that. However whether I use carbon Copy Cloner or > SuperDuper, after 20 minutes or less I get the dreaded kernal panic > notice! > I'm running Tiger 10.5.11 and have tried Disk Utilities, verify, and > repair disk but to no avail. > Any ideas please? > > Ken > > On 17 Mar 2009, at 12:00 PM, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > >> Send NMUG mailing list submissions to >> nmug at durrant.co.uk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> nmug-request at durrant.co.uk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Backups (Robbie Murray) >> 2. Backups: Out of the dark ages (stefan youngs) >> 3. Re: Backups (Allan) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:47 +0000 >> From: Robbie Murray >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Backups >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <6C07C71C-D894-41A0-BB66-2C19A9B44841 at f2s.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Seconded! >> >> Robbie >> >> On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:06, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >> The subject of back-ups often crops up at meetings. It might be >> that I >> raise it at meetings a lot, because I'm firmly of the opinion that >> the >> only certain thing about hard disks is that they will fail. >> >> My Macbook's hard disk failed on Saturday morning. >> >> I have now recovered everything from tape backups, but it was a >> tedious and slow process. If I had had a Time Machine backup, I would >> have been fully restored by Saturday evening. As it is, I've only got >> fully restored this evening. And yes, I now have a Time Machine >> volume >> on my MacBook as well as my tape backups! >> >> Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk >> for a >> Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an external >> disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:54:28 +0000 >> From: stefan youngs >> Subject: [NMUG] Backups: Out of the dark ages >> To: nmug at durrant.co.uk >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> I'd like to backup what Paul said about backups. >> >> Hard disks fail. It's a fact of life. They fail when you are least >> expecting them to, and often at the worst of times: just when you >> need >> the machine. This is of course Murphy's Law in full fledged flight. >> >> I have just completed my first experience of recovering from the >> total >> loss of my MacBook's hard disk, using Apple's utterly brilliant >> TimeMachine solution. I've previously used TimeMachine to recover >> deleted or inadvertently changed files, at which it excels. It really >> is a one-click recover solution. >> >> This time I had to get back the whole disk, and I wanted to have >> everything restored: all the bookmarks, the iCal entries, my Skype >> history, everything. >> >> I have been running TimeMachine for my entire MacBook disk onto an >> external, so I knew all the data I needed was there, but would it all >> get back in the right place when I restored? Or would I have to do >> lots of manual fiddling? In the past, whenever I've had to restore, >> lots of little system files were missed and I'd have to spend >> hours if >> not days trying tog et everything back in sync. >> >> This time, it couldn't have been simpler. >> >> I booted from the Install DVD. The software offers an Option to >> restore From Backup. I clicked that, the TimeMachine external was >> recognized, I selected that and then chose the new MacBook >> internal as >> the destination. I was warned this would be erased, I clicked OK >> and a >> couple of hours later, I was back with everything in place. >> >> I know to many this will seem obvious and you'll ask what is this guy >> making a fuss about? All I can say is, nobody who had to do a restore >> using any other method would ask that question. Apple really has, yet >> gain, excelled itself. >> >> Go out and get yourself an external and implement TimeMachine. You >> know if makes sense! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:56:35 +0000 >> From: Allan >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Backups >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <809BDAFD-17A1-41D4-9A1C-535744D8A55B at dsol.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; >> delsp=yes >> >> >> On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:45, Robbie Murray wrote: >> >>> Moral: If you have Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5), get an external disk for >>> a Time Machine backup. Even if you don't have Leopard, get an >>> external disk and backup using SuperDuper!. You know it makes sense. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Paul >> >> >> Couldn't agree more. >> >> Allan Johns >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> End of NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 >> ************************************ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:11 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <712D0822-5F09-4F4E-A351-1162E10B5A8F at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Have you tried using Disk Utility to reformat the external drive > before you start the copy? > > Does the Disk Utility Verify command show any problems with your > internal disk? > > regards, > > Paul > > On 17 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > >> >> All this talk of backing up seems very sensible and I've been trying >> to do just that. However whether I use carbon Copy Cloner or >> SuperDuper, after 20 minutes or less I get the dreaded kernal panic >> notice! >> I'm running Tiger 10.5.11 and have tried Disk Utilities, verify, and >> repair disk but to no avail. >> Any ideas please? >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:40:25 +0000 > From: Ken Arnoldi > Subject: [NMUG] Backing up > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: <77E2E23F-966E-4E97-8CAD-E94B391A6870 at virgin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hello all, > My previous posting should have read that my OS is Tiger 10.4.11 not > Tiger 10.5.11! > > Ken > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 40 > ************************************ From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:23:48 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:23:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried that. I can see and play the remote music, but I couldn't copy tunes to my iPhone. I'll try Allan's suggestion. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Brian Steere wrote: > Just turn on sharing in server Mac preferences. > And 'look for shared libraries' in other Macs. > > regards > Brian From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 19 11:17:22 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:17:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Kernel Crash - Memory Testing - Rember In-Reply-To: <86EAC928-209B-4136-ACB9-7E525965A612@virgin.net> References: <20090318120004.0B43C83A9ED@mail.durrant.co.uk> <86EAC928-209B-4136-ACB9-7E525965A612@virgin.net> Message-ID: <2B874AC5-C4A2-4DF4-8DDD-7CFE7C88423A@durrant.co.uk> Hi Ken, Kernal crashes (the dimmed screen/black rectangle/you must restart) should not be happening. They are a symptom of a problem. That problem might be: * Bad memory * Motherboard fault * Dying hard disk * Corrupt data on hard disk due to one of the above. At least you do now have a backup, but you need to find and fix the cause of the kernal faults. I'd check memory first, since if that's the problem it's relatively easy and cheap to fix. You need to get Rember, the Mac OS X version of Memtest, and give it a good run. It's free from http://www.kelleycomputing.net/rember/ Paul PS. And please trim posts when replying to a digest! On 19 Mar 2009, at 10:07, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > Thanks Paul, > > I followed your suggestion and it worked. However, after backing up > I got the > dreaded white letters on a black rectangle and had to restart. It > seems to be happening > too often now, despite doing a disk utility verity/repair! > > Ken > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:11 +0000 >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 39 backing up >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <712D0822-5F09-4F4E-A351-1162E10B5A8F at durrant.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Have you tried using Disk Utility to reformat the external drive >> before you start the copy? >> >> Does the Disk Utility Verify command show any problems with your >> internal disk? >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 17 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Ken Arnoldi wrote: >> >>> >>> All this talk of backing up seems very sensible and I've been trying >>> to do just that. However whether I use carbon Copy Cloner or >>> SuperDuper, after 20 minutes or less I get the dreaded kernal panic >>> notice! >>> I'm running Tiger 10.5.11 and have tried Disk Utilities, verify, and >>> repair disk but to no avail. >>> Any ideas please? >>> >>> >> From penguin.999 at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 11:40:53 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:40:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview Message-ID: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> I hadn't realised, Google Streetview has started. I knew they had been sending the vans round some time ago but heard they were waiting to make sure it was legal for them to put it on the web. Not everywhere but that's a nice front door of yours Paul D. Yes, they looked over fences! Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 12:02:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:02:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview Message-ID: Paul How do you get to it. Just checked Google Maps and couldn't find anything pointing to Street View. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview From: Paul Chapman Date: 19/03/2009 11:41 I hadn't realised, Google Streetview has started. I knew they had been sending the vans round some time ago but heard they were waiting to make sure it was legal for them to put it on the web. Not everywhere but that's a nice front door of yours Paul D. Yes, they looked over fences! Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 12:04:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:04:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> References: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> Message-ID: <6D2C0A66-1A2D-49A3-ADEB-1D7C51A1BEE5@f2s.com> Thanks Paul: I actually saw them go by the window when they were doing the mapping, and have been wondering when we would see the result. I'm glad my car was clean! Robbie On 19 Mar 2009, at 11:40, Paul Chapman wrote: I hadn't realised, Google Streetview has started. I knew they had been sending the vans round some time ago but heard they were waiting to make sure it was legal for them to put it on the web. Not everywhere but that's a nice front door of yours Paul D. Yes, they looked over fences! Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 12:14:41 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:14:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:02, Simon Royal wrote: > How do you get to it. Just checked Google Maps and couldn't find > anything pointing to Street View. Go to Google Maps and top left you will see the buttons to navigate and zoom in and out. There is a an orange man which you can drag to the street you wish to view. Once you start dragging streets that have Streetview show up as blue. Paul C From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 12:16:35 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:16:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> References: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> Message-ID: <3BF276FD-4996-4E26-BFCE-C68E27C7CD6A@f2s.com> .... I notice that the number plates are obscured... Thanks Paul: I actually saw them go by the window when they were doing the mapping, and have been wondering when we would see the result. I'm glad my car was clean! Robbie On 19 Mar 2009, at 11:40, Paul Chapman wrote: I hadn't realised, Google Streetview has started. I knew they had been sending the vans round some time ago but heard they were waiting to make sure it was legal for them to put it on the web. Not everywhere but that's a nice front door of yours Paul D. Yes, they looked over fences! Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 12:20:08 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 19 Mar 2009 12:20:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Haven't made it my neck of the woods yet. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 19 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:02, Simon Royal wrote: > How do you get to it. Just checked Google Maps and couldn't find > anything pointing to Street View. Go to Google Maps and top left you will see the buttons to navigate and zoom in and out. There is a an orange man which you can drag to the street you wish to view. Once you start dragging streets that have Streetview show up as blue. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 12:22:10 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:22:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <3BF276FD-4996-4E26-BFCE-C68E27C7CD6A@f2s.com> References: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> <3BF276FD-4996-4E26-BFCE-C68E27C7CD6A@f2s.com> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:16, Robbie Murray wrote: > .... I notice that the number plates are obscured... The software they used doesn't seem to be too sophisticated as some other signs get affected as well. I 'went' down St Benedicts and several notices in shop windows had been obscured as well. For those who want to know what a Google vehicle looks like, go down narrow shopping streets and look at the reflection in the shop windows. Paul C From sc at davidviner.com Thu Mar 19 12:32:25 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:32:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far end of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car number plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And their face blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as one of mine is laying on the front door step! David Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > Haven't made it my neck of the woods yet. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 19 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: > > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:02, Simon Royal wrote: > >> How do you get to it. Just checked Google Maps and couldn't find >> anything pointing to Street View. > > Go to Google Maps and top left you will see the buttons to navigate > and zoom in and out. There is a an orange man which you can drag to > the street you wish to view. Once you start dragging streets that > have Streetview show up as blue. > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From penguin.999 at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 12:40:58 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:40:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:32, David Viner wrote: > Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far > end of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car > number plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And > their face blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as one > of mine is laying on the front door step! Time to prune that wisteria and could you please tidy up those wires on your roof? ;) Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 12:46:02 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:46:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview Message-ID: Hi whoever mentioned reflections so you can see the Google van, which street did you see it in? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Google Streetview From: Paul Chapman Date: 19/03/2009 12:41 On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:32, David Viner wrote: > Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far > end of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car > number plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And > their face blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as one > of mine is laying on the front door step! Time to prune that wisteria and could you please tidy up those wires on your roof? ;) Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Thu Mar 19 12:47:16 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:47:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1B5BFC0C-2108-4BE4-AB0A-F78943051190@ruthmurray.f2s.com> My car is in fragments ? I knew my Honda was old but not breaking apart! Ruth On 19 Mar 2009, at 12:40, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:32, David Viner wrote: > >> Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far >> end of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car >> number plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And >> their face blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as >> one of mine is laying on the front door step! > > Time to prune that wisteria and could you please tidy up those > wires on your roof? > > ;) > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From sc at davidviner.com Thu Mar 19 12:47:53 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:47:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> Message-ID: <49C23EF9.9040603@davidviner.com> Hah! Great detective work Paul! I bet that was a bit of "whois" and then a post code search on G/Maps ;-) Actually, the wisteria is now pruned right back but the wires can stay that way until I really have to do something about them - one is the BT phone line and they can fix that whenever it completely falls off and maybe connect it to the telegraph pole next door instead of the one about 30 yards down the road in the opposite direction! David Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:32, David Viner wrote: > >> Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far end >> of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car number >> plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And their face >> blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as one of mine is >> laying on the front door step! > > Time to prune that wisteria and could you please tidy up those wires > on your roof? > > ;) > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 12:54:50 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:54:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <49C23EF9.9040603@davidviner.com> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> <49C23EF9.9040603@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <5D7A2307-8391-454B-9C71-21E455AE2D9D@f2s.com> I wonder how long it takes them to backup their image folder overnight? I should imagine SuperDuper has to work pretty hard .... :-) Robbie From steve.forst at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 13:04:55 2009 From: steve.forst at virgin.net (Steve Forster) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:04:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <5D7A2307-8391-454B-9C71-21E455AE2D9D@f2s.com> Message-ID: The number plate on one vehicle parked at my house is perfectly readable while the one next to it is blurred and cannot be read. Call me a pedant but I have reported this to them. -- Steve Forster From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 13:10:33 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:10:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Life Of An iPod Message-ID: Hi. I have had my trusty iPod Photo for just over four years and it has a hard life. Not only do I use it as a music player for at least 2 hours a day - sometimes as much as 10 hours a day - but it also has the Tiger installer restored to it for quick installs and repairs. I've also used it as a backup device a few times. I'm doing a lot of work, decorating and gardening at the mo and is the only thing keeping me sane. About a year ago it started playing 1 in 4 tracks and I thought it was on its way out, but a wipe and format sorted it and it has been fine since. It is an excellent all rounder and being firewire means I can boot from it too. How long do these things last? Battery is still as strong as the day I got it. Its fantastically robust. I would hate to be without it. And essential tool and music player. I was looking at getting a bigger one - mine is only 40GB - but the lack of firewire on new ones puts me off. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From brian at clearlight.uk.net Thu Mar 19 13:18:17 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:18:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] shared iTunes library In-Reply-To: <2A6C5269-8614-4618-B181-8221977E0BBA@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: The only thing about Powertunes is that of depending on a 3rd party in an area where Apple frequently change the rules. If I were to try that out I would likely never update iTunes until I had checked it didnt mess up with powertunes. I wouldn't want to lose my iTunes Library again after trying a previous multi library application and having to start again. If you do try it - can you feedback on it? all the best Brian PS - I quite agree that iTunes doesn't help in sharing one's own music within one's own multiple setup. Allan said recently: > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 18:55, Scott Matthews wrote: > >> Is it possible to share iTunes libraries? >> >> All my music lives on my iMac, which I mainly use as a kind of media >> server. I only ever plug my iPhone into my mac book, but I'd like to >> fill the iPhone up with music from my iMac. I did try plugging the >> iPhone into the iMac, but it grumbled about having already been synced >> on another machine. >> >> I currently have to manually copy albums from my iMac to the mac book, >> and then import them into iTunes etc. Surely there must be a simpler >> way! >> >> any ideas? >> > > > Would something like Power Tunes be useful. > > http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27976/powertunes > > Allan Johns. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 13:19:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:19:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <1B5BFC0C-2108-4BE4-AB0A-F78943051190@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> <3524F2AA-3520-40B5-A182-766C8A47F26F@virgin.net> <1B5BFC0C-2108-4BE4-AB0A-F78943051190@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <5270160E-B21E-4BA8-9E42-E8453B4CC837@f2s.com> Are You sure, Ruth? Looks fine to me, but they do distort at certain points of the panorama as you swivel round ..... It's the same with my daughter's immaculate Focus. She'll be most upset! Robbie On 19 Mar 2009, at 12:47, Ruth Murray wrote: My car is in fragments ? I knew my Honda was old but not breaking apart! Ruth From marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com Thu Mar 19 13:26:56 2009 From: marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com (marilynjoycampbell) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:26:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> A friend of mine is seriously considering buying an apple laptop. she is, like me, computer illiterate! She just wants it for basic stuff, documents, email and internet, maybe photographs - so two questions: What would any of you recommend? Is it worth her considering a second hand one, and if so has anyone got one? I have a G4 and love it - probably over specified for my use!. Best wishes marilyn campbell From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 13:37:06 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:37:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Hi Marilyn I can't advise on appropriate models, as I hate laptops, but whatever she finally decides, I would suggest having a look at the refurbs from Apple, as sometimes there are substantial savings, and they're as good as new, (possibly even better, as they've been more thoroughly tested), and come with full warranty - I never buy anything else! It can mean playing a bit of a waiting game, though, as the stock can change daily, so if there's nothing today, it's worth a look tomorrow .... http://tinyurl.com/refurbmacdeals Robbie On 19 Mar 2009, at 13:26, marilynjoycampbell wrote: A friend of mine is seriously considering buying an apple laptop. she is, like me, computer illiterate! She just wants it for basic stuff, documents, email and internet, maybe photographs - so two questions: What would any of you recommend? Is it worth her considering a second hand one, and if so has anyone got one? I have a G4 and love it - probably over specified for my use!. Best wishes marilyn campbell _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 19 13:41:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:41:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> The MacBook. The current white MacBook is best value, and is only a tiny bit slower than the new Aluminium MacBooks. You should consider refurbished direct from Apple, but I wouldn't recommend a new user to go the second-hand route. You really have to know what you're doing. With a new machine you get all the (minimal) documentation, and you also have telephone support. For a new machine, perhaps buying from PC World is a good idea - Jon from PC World is on this list and seems knowledgeable and enthusiastic. For a new user, having a local shop to go back to can be important. Of course, if cost is an issue, second-hand may be the only way to go. I'd recommend any of the white Intel MacBooks. Do budget for an external hard disk at least as big as the MacBook's internal hard disk for use as a backup disk with Time Machine. For Photography, iPhoto '09 is great, part of iLife '09 which comes with new Macs. Perhaps Photoshop Elements as well, for any tricky editing. Paul On 19 Mar 2009, at 13:26, marilynjoycampbell wrote: > A friend of mine is seriously considering buying an apple laptop. > she is, like me, computer illiterate! She just wants it for basic > stuff, documents, email and internet, maybe photographs - so two > questions: > > What would any of you recommend? > > Is it worth her considering a second hand one, and if so has anyone > got one? > > I have a G4 and love it - probably over specified for my use!. > From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 14:38:38 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:38:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: <266A30A0-0A2E-4088-9771-8DC853B234BB@virgin.net> <3BF276FD-4996-4E26-BFCE-C68E27C7CD6A@f2s.com> Message-ID: <1A012B80-B2D6-43F0-B396-DE8AAD68C3EA@f2s.com> Or you can go here ... http://tinyurl.com/568zlg That's what went past my window last autumn - couldn't see the car, as I'm on the first floor - I thought the Martians had landed ..... On 19 Mar 2009, at 12:22, Paul Chapman wrote: For those who want to know what a Google vehicle looks like, go down narrow shopping streets and look at the reflection in the shop windows. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at me.com Thu Mar 19 14:44:01 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:44:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Paul. Please do come along and see me. I can show you and your friend what is available. I do also have some re-furbed models although they are few and far between. Jon Apple Solutions Consultant 07894949043 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Mar 2009, at 13:41, Paul Durrant wrote: > The MacBook. > > The current white MacBook is best value, and is only a tiny bit > slower than the new Aluminium MacBooks. > > You should consider refurbished direct from Apple, but I wouldn't > recommend a new user to go the second-hand route. You really have to > know what you're doing. With a new machine you get all the (minimal) > documentation, and you also have telephone support. > > For a new machine, perhaps buying from PC World is a good idea - Jon > from PC World is on this list and seems knowledgeable and > enthusiastic. For a new user, having a local shop to go back to can > be important. > > Of course, if cost is an issue, second-hand may be the only way to > go. I'd recommend any of the white Intel MacBooks. > > Do budget for an external hard disk at least as big as the MacBook's > internal hard disk for use as a backup disk with Time Machine. > > For Photography, iPhoto '09 is great, part of iLife '09 which comes > with new Macs. Perhaps Photoshop Elements as well, for any tricky > editing. > > Paul > > On 19 Mar 2009, at 13:26, marilynjoycampbell wrote: > >> A friend of mine is seriously considering buying an apple laptop. >> she is, like me, computer illiterate! She just wants it for basic >> stuff, documents, email and internet, maybe photographs - so two >> questions: >> >> What would any of you recommend? >> >> Is it worth her considering a second hand one, and if so has anyone >> got one? >> >> I have a G4 and love it - probably over specified for my use!. >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Mar 19 14:57:50 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:57:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <375992370903190757u60fdc41cj3b7b72ed15e3cacb@mail.gmail.com> Jon, 2009/3/19 Jon Fowler : > Thanks Paul. > Please do come along and see me. I can show you and your friend what is > available. I do also have some re-furbed models although they are few and > far between. Do you happen to know if any of the old black Macbooks shop up as refurbs very often? -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From fowler.j at me.com Thu Mar 19 15:02:32 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:02:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <375992370903190757u60fdc41cj3b7b72ed15e3cacb@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> <375992370903190757u60fdc41cj3b7b72ed15e3cacb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <56B41FE0-F4C2-420D-8415-29E83FD75550@me.com> Very rarely. I have a number of MacBook pro and a White MacBook, but it is normally ex-stock items. We didn't have a great deal of black MacBooks. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Mar 2009, at 14:57, David Reynolds wrote: > Jon, > > 2009/3/19 Jon Fowler : >> Thanks Paul. >> Please do come along and see me. I can show you and your friend >> what is >> available. I do also have some re-furbed models although they are >> few and >> far between. > > Do you happen to know if any of the old black Macbooks shop up as > refurbs very often? > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Mar 19 15:08:50 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:08:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! In-Reply-To: <56B41FE0-F4C2-420D-8415-29E83FD75550@me.com> References: <20090319120004.43CF683BE69@mail.durrant.co.uk> <42b802c936ee1c70c5a856c39eb576f8@ntlworld.com> <8DF16CA7-4735-4025-B92D-BBF0B7816EF6@durrant.co.uk> <375992370903190757u60fdc41cj3b7b72ed15e3cacb@mail.gmail.com> <56B41FE0-F4C2-420D-8415-29E83FD75550@me.com> Message-ID: <375992370903190808h347cd41flb0ed399479320e6c@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/19 Jon Fowler : > Very rarely. I have a number of MacBook pro and a White MacBook, but it is > normally ex-stock items. We didn't have a great deal of black MacBooks. Shame. I much prefer the look of the black Macbooks to the white ones. Not really sure why apple discontinues the colour. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 15:33:33 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:33:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! Message-ID: <8VrgCS3wQqYb.TzJR0DMV@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> David The whites look so much better I think. Very Apple-esque. Black just looks like a Winbloze machine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! From: David Reynolds Date: 19/03/2009 15:08 2009/3/19 Jon Fowler : > Very rarely. I have a number of MacBook pro and a White MacBook, but it is > normally ex-stock items. We didn't have a great deal of black MacBooks. Shame. I much prefer the look of the black Macbooks to the white ones. Not really sure why apple discontinues the colour. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Thu Mar 19 15:47:35 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:47:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C26917.2010209@davidviner.com> Steve Can you tell me how/where to report problem pictures back to Google on street view? I was just looking at Earlham West Centre (the large roundabout with a doctor's surgery/chemist on the roundabout itself). There's a white car parked there with its reg plate completely unfuzzed though there is a bit of blurring just above the car's steering wheel! The cars in view behind it are blurred ok. David Steve Forster wrote: > The number plate on one vehicle parked at my house is perfectly readable > while the one next to it is blurred and cannot be read. Call me a pedant but > I have reported this to them. > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 19 16:30:23 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview Message-ID: <251703.99117.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I dont know what the problem is with seing peoples number plates is, you can look outside and see 1000's! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Thu, 19/3/09, David Viner wrote: From: David Viner Subject: Re: [NMUG] Google Streetview To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Thursday, 19 March, 2009, 3:47 PM Steve Can you tell me how/where to report problem pictures back to Google on street view? I was just looking at Earlham West Centre (the large roundabout with a doctor's surgery/chemist on the roundabout itself). There's a white car parked there with its reg plate completely unfuzzed though there is a bit of blurring just above the car's steering wheel! The cars in view behind it are blurred ok. David Steve Forster wrote: > The number plate on one vehicle parked at my house is perfectly readable > while the one next to it is blurred and cannot be read. Call me a pedant but > I have reported this to them. >??? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 19 16:31:36 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! Message-ID: <421401.75047.qm@web26701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I beg to differ, in the flesh the black ones are realy nice, they also stay cleaner. Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Thu, 19/3/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Thursday, 19 March, 2009, 3:33 PM David The whites look so much better I think. Very Apple-esque. Black just looks like a Winbloze machine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] advice - what else!!!! From: David Reynolds Date: 19/03/2009 15:08 2009/3/19 Jon Fowler : > Very rarely. I have a number of MacBook pro and a White MacBook, but it is > normally ex-stock items. We didn't have a great deal of black MacBooks. Shame. I much prefer the look of the black Macbooks to the white ones. Not really sure why apple discontinues the colour. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.forst at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 16:34:16 2009 From: steve.forst at virgin.net (Steve Forster) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:34:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <49C26917.2010209@davidviner.com> Message-ID: There?s a button bottom left of picture, ?report a concern?. -- Steve Forster Steve Can you tell me how/where to report problem pictures back to Google on street view? I was just looking at Earlham West Centre (the large roundabout with a doctor's surgery/chemist on the roundabout itself). There's a white car parked there with its reg plate completely unfuzzed though there is a bit of blurring just above the car's steering wheel! The cars in view behind it are blurred ok. David Steve Forster wrote: > The number plate on one vehicle parked at my house is perfectly readable > while the one next to it is blurred and cannot be read. Call me a pedant but > I have reported this to them. > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Thu Mar 19 16:44:31 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:44:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C2766F.1030904@davidviner.com> D'oh! I can see it now! (must make appt to get eyes tested). Thanks Steve There's also a nice cock up along Drayton Rd. Take the turning into Wickes car park and what you see isn't Wickes car park - it's part of the housing estate next door (I think). Steve Forster wrote: > There?s a button bottom left of picture, ?report a concern?. > From richardbensley at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 19:00:35 2009 From: richardbensley at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:00:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] For Sale: Dual G5 Powermac 2.0GHz Message-ID: For Sale! A Dual G5 Powermac, specs are as follows: -Dual G5 2.0GHz -3GB RAM -1x320GB SATA Hard Drive -Geforce 5200 -DVDRW With this purchase I am only supplying the base unit. (No keyboard, mouse, or power cable is supplied) It is in good condition as you can see from the following photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/richardbensley/ForSale?feat=directlink Runs fine. Only problem is the DVD drive gets stuck sometimes when you try to open/eject the tray. OSX 10.4 is installed (manufacturers install, will finish setup when you next turn it on to set username, password and other personal details). There is 2 PCIX back panel plates missing where I removed 2 custom cards (a RAID contoller and a blackmagic card), sorry I don't have the original plates to put back in. I am asking 450 GBP for this mac. After doing some research on ebay I can see slower spec models (single CPU and 1GB RAM) going for 425, so I think this is reasonable. I am open to offers, especially if you can pick it up! I live in Loddon, 16 miles outside of Norwich down the A146. Please email me richardbensley at gmail.com or call me on 07846466530 for further info. Cheers Richard From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 19 20:55:28 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 19 Mar 2009 20:55:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Google Streetview In-Reply-To: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> References: <49C23B59.2030001@davidviner.com> Message-ID: Hi I have just been reading about the legality of it. If it is ok for joe public to have their windows peered through, why can you not get close to Buckingham Palace or Downing Street. It's pathetic. I didn't realise just how close you could zoom in earlier, a friend of mine has her front door open and you can see right in her house. While it has been fun today it really is an invasion of privacy. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 19 2009, David Viner wrote: Well, they've certainly made it down my little road up at the far end of Thorpe! They didn't do a brilliant job of blurring my car number plate either - the first letter is still very clear. And their face blurring algorithm obviously doesn't work for cats as one of mine is laying on the front door step! David Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > Haven't made it my neck of the woods yet. > > Simon > > --- > Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... > > Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX > 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... > > The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Mar 19 2009, Paul Chapman wrote: > > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:02, Simon Royal wrote: > >> How do you get to it. Just checked Google Maps and couldn't find >> anything pointing to Street View. > > Go to Google Maps and top left you will see the buttons to navigate > and zoom in and out. There is a an orange man which you can drag to > the street you wish to view. Once you start dragging streets that > have Streetview show up as blue. > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Thu Mar 19 22:17:26 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:17:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Streetview Message-ID: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> Where's this comment about report a concern on google? My entire number plate is visible! Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk From penguin.999 at virgin.net Thu Mar 19 22:24:09 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:24:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Streetview In-Reply-To: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> References: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2009, at 22:17, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Where's this comment about report a concern on google? My entire > number plate is visible! If you are asking how to report it then the link is in the bottom left corner of the street view window. Paul C From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 19 22:27:51 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:27:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Streetview In-Reply-To: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> References: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <597DCEB9-07AF-4838-A5C0-0A179F06A770@f2s.com> Well, if it's 'SJ 1' Steven, maybe they thought it was special enough to show to the world .... :-) Robbie On 19 Mar 2009, at 22:17, Steven Jefferson wrote: Where's this comment about report a concern on google? My entire number plate is visible! Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Thu Mar 19 22:28:58 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:28:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Streetview In-Reply-To: References: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <52F31820-CE38-46F7-82C5-B4BE5ACD15A1@zen.co.uk> Got it! Cheers Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 19 Mar 2009, at 22:24, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 22:17, Steven Jefferson wrote: > >> Where's this comment about report a concern on google? My entire >> number plate is visible! > > If you are asking how to report it then the link is in the bottom > left corner of the street view window. > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Thu Mar 19 22:42:02 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:42:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Streetview In-Reply-To: <597DCEB9-07AF-4838-A5C0-0A179F06A770@f2s.com> References: <351C72CD-AF96-4078-B029-BC3C7B94B780@zen.co.uk> <597DCEB9-07AF-4838-A5C0-0A179F06A770@f2s.com> Message-ID: <895C12E4-B769-4154-80D4-D599A5E10CC0@zen.co.uk> Shame but I'm not that famous. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 19 Mar 2009, at 22:27, Robbie Murray wrote: > Well, if it's 'SJ 1' Steven, maybe they thought it was special > enough to show to the world .... > > :-) > > Robbie > > > On 19 Mar 2009, at 22:17, Steven Jefferson wrote: > > Where's this comment about report a concern on google? My entire > number plate is visible! > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Fri Mar 20 00:07:38 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:07:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] For Sale: Dual G5 Powermac 2.0GHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C2DE4A.1070606@mac.com> Richard, I see you have an interest in Silicon Graphics machines. Do you use these for a particular application? Tom. Richard wrote: > For Sale! A Dual G5 Powermac, specs are as follows: > > -Dual G5 2.0GHz > -3GB RAM > -1x320GB SATA Hard Drive > -Geforce 5200 > -DVDRW > > With this purchase I am only supplying the base unit. (No keyboard, > mouse, or power cable is supplied) > > It is in good condition as you can see from the following photos: > http://picasaweb.google.com/richardbensley/ForSale?feat=directlink > > Runs fine. Only problem is the DVD drive gets stuck sometimes when you > try to open/eject the tray. > > OSX 10.4 is installed (manufacturers install, will finish setup when > you next turn it on to set username, password and other personal > details). There is 2 PCIX back panel plates missing where I removed 2 > custom cards (a RAID contoller and a blackmagic card), sorry I don't > have the original plates to put back in. > > I am asking 450 GBP for this mac. > > After doing some research on ebay I can see slower spec models (single > CPU and 1GB RAM) going for 425, so I think this is reasonable. I am > open to offers, especially if you can pick it up! I live in Loddon, 16 > miles outside of Norwich down the A146. > > Please email me richardbensley at gmail.com or call me on 07846466530 for > further info. > > Cheers > Richard > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From richardbensley at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 01:07:04 2009 From: richardbensley at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:07:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] For Sale: Dual G5 Powermac 2.0GHz In-Reply-To: <49C2DE4A.1070606@mac.com> References: <49C2DE4A.1070606@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, yes there are a few old apps I like to run from yesteryear. Alias Stupiopaint, and Avid Matador and Avid Illusion (Now part of softimage) are the main ones. Lot's of people pick them up to run old versions of popular turnkey video editing and compositing systems, and if you can justify paying for the 800w PSU they make pretty decent servers. What's your interest in SGI's? Rich 2009/3/20 Tom Kershaw : > Richard, > > I see you have an interest in Silicon Graphics machines. Do you use these > for a particular application? > > Tom. > > Richard wrote: >> >> For Sale! A Dual G5 Powermac, specs are as follows: >> >> -Dual G5 2.0GHz >> -3GB RAM >> -1x320GB SATA Hard Drive >> -Geforce 5200 >> -DVDRW >> >> With this purchase I am only supplying the base unit. (No keyboard, >> mouse, or power cable is supplied) >> >> It is in good condition as you can see from the following photos: >> http://picasaweb.google.com/richardbensley/ForSale?feat=directlink >> >> Runs fine. Only problem is the DVD drive gets stuck sometimes when you >> try to open/eject the tray. >> >> OSX 10.4 is installed (manufacturers install, will finish setup when >> you next turn it on to set username, password and other personal >> details). There is 2 PCIX back panel plates missing where I removed 2 >> custom cards (a RAID contoller and a blackmagic card), sorry I don't >> have the original plates to put back in. >> >> I am asking 450 GBP for this mac. >> >> After doing some research on ebay I can see slower spec models (single >> CPU and 1GB RAM) going for 425, so I think this is reasonable. I am >> open to offers, especially if you can pick it up! I live in Loddon, 16 >> miles outside of Norwich down the A146. >> >> Please email me richardbensley at gmail.com or call me on 07846466530 for >> further info. >> >> Cheers >> Richard >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Richard Charles Bensley http://nodal.cgsociety.org richardbensley at gmail.com 07846466530 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 20 10:39:26 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 20 Mar 2009 10:39:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key Message-ID: Hi Saw this thought some of you might be interested. http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/usb-flash-drives/lacie-iamakey-usb-flash-drive-4gb-130869/12400 A 4GB USB flash drive in a key design by LaCie only ?15.99 Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 20 11:12:15 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:12:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52ABE0C1-08CA-40F8-AF4A-AB110F5F4306@durrant.co.uk> It's a cute design, but you're really paying a lot for that. 4GB Flash drives are generally under ?10 now. I've been very pleased with my Lexar: http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=105117 Because it's the cap that attaches to the key-ring, you can use it without finding room for a whole bunch of keys near the USB port. The cap attaches well enough to the body that I haven't lost it after a year or so. Paul On 20 Mar 2009, at 10:39, Simon Royal wrote: > Saw this thought some of you might be interested. > > http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/usb-flash-drives/lacie-iamakey-usb-flash-drive-4gb-130869/12400 > > A 4GB USB flash drive in a key design by LaCie only ?15.99 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 20 12:07:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:07:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key Message-ID: Paul I am very happy with my 128MB Iomega Mini. It has outlasted everything else I have owned and super reliable, if not a little small. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key From: Paul Durrant Date: 20/03/2009 11:12 It's a cute design, but you're really paying a lot for that. 4GB Flash drives are generally under ?10 now. I've been very pleased with my Lexar: http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=105117 Because it's the cap that attaches to the key-ring, you can use it without finding room for a whole bunch of keys near the USB port. The cap attaches well enough to the body that I haven't lost it after a year or so. Paul On 20 Mar 2009, at 10:39, Simon Royal wrote: > Saw this thought some of you might be interested. > > http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/usb-flash-drives/lacie-iamakey-usb-flash-drive-4gb-130869/12400 > > A 4GB USB flash drive in a key design by LaCie only ?15.99 _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jeremyknight at mac.com Fri Mar 20 12:24:38 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:24:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside Message-ID: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> My wife in doing an ou course. the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal dvd player. All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word processing. Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them that will fill the bill please? I think we will consider new and used . best wishes jeremy From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 20 12:28:40 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:28:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside Message-ID: Jeremy If you have to go to the darkside, then I think Toshiba and IBM ThinkPads are the best. My wife and mum have Toshiba laptops - an Equium (something like that) and Satellite Pro - and they are pretty rock solid things. I've owned ThinkPads in the past and they are built like tanks. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside From: jeremy knight Date: 20/03/2009 12:24 My wife in doing an ou course. the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal dvd player. All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word processing. Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them that will fill the bill please? I think we will consider new and used . best wishes jeremy _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 20 12:35:43 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:35:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside In-Reply-To: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> References: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> Message-ID: <485036B4-BEF3-4082-B8FE-5D93444EB0D9@f2s.com> if you must! I would look at http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computers/cat/Laptops or http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=602 and make your choice. Or ebay of course, but how do you know what you're getting? Or you could invest in VM Fusion or Parallels and buy a copy of Windows ... ... Or even use Boot Camp if your Mac supports it. Hope this helps Robbie On 20 Mar 2009, at 12:24, jeremy knight wrote: My wife in doing an ou course. the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal dvd player. All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word processing. Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them that will fill the bill please? I think we will consider new and used . best wishes jeremy _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From sc at davidviner.com Fri Mar 20 12:44:14 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:44:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside In-Reply-To: <485036B4-BEF3-4082-B8FE-5D93444EB0D9@f2s.com> References: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> <485036B4-BEF3-4082-B8FE-5D93444EB0D9@f2s.com> Message-ID: <49C38F9E.5090805@davidviner.com> A local guy (Jonathan Went) I've done some web work for in the past can get hold of refurbished IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. His site/email is www.bmsoftware.com / sales at bmsoftware.com - phone number(s) 0870 360 3699 or (cheaper!) 01603 612606. David Robbie Murray wrote: > if you must! > > I would look at > > http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computers/cat/Laptops > > or > > http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=602 > > and make your choice. > > Or ebay of course, but how do you know what you're getting? > > Or you could invest in VM Fusion or Parallels and buy a copy of > Windows ... > ... Or even use Boot Camp if your Mac supports it. > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > On 20 Mar 2009, at 12:24, jeremy knight wrote: > > My wife in doing an ou course. > the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal > dvd player. > All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word > processing. > Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them > that will fill the bill please? > I think we will consider new and used . > best wishes > jeremy > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From tomkershaw at mac.com Fri Mar 20 13:34:51 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:34:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside In-Reply-To: <49C38F9E.5090805@davidviner.com> References: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> <485036B4-BEF3-4082-B8FE-5D93444EB0D9@f2s.com> <49C38F9E.5090805@davidviner.com> Message-ID: <49C39B7B.6050306@mac.com> Why not use an Intel Mac? I've run Windows XP under Bootcamp for OU software without a problem. Tom. David Viner wrote: > A local guy (Jonathan Went) I've done some web work for in the past > can get hold of refurbished IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. His site/email is > www.bmsoftware.com / sales at bmsoftware.com - phone number(s) 0870 360 > 3699 or (cheaper!) 01603 612606. > > David > > > Robbie Murray wrote: >> if you must! >> >> I would look at >> >> http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computers/cat/Laptops >> >> or >> >> http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=602 >> >> and make your choice. >> >> Or ebay of course, but how do you know what you're getting? >> >> Or you could invest in VM Fusion or Parallels and buy a copy of >> Windows ... >> ... Or even use Boot Camp if your Mac supports it. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Robbie >> >> >> On 20 Mar 2009, at 12:24, jeremy knight wrote: >> >> My wife in doing an ou course. >> the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal >> dvd player. >> All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word >> processing. >> Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them >> that will fill the bill please? >> I think we will consider new and used . >> best wishes >> jeremy >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Fri Mar 20 17:52:48 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:52:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer advice Message-ID: I have been using Canon i865 and IP4000 to print my own cards. http://www.clearlightcards.co.uk I found out later along the way that edge to edge printing results in an inevitable build up of ink in the works and consequent smudges. My best attempt to clean haven't really helped much. canon support has simply said do not use edge to edge printing ? or I will meet this consequence ? regardless of the fact that edge to edge printing is one of the sales features. Because I want flexibility of short runs I would like to continue to print my own cards. Epson in the old days drove me nuts with endless cleaning cycles to clear nozzles and usually waiting for a clean cycle before printing even a simple job ? so I am not much attracted to them. But I would like to sound out those of you who have any experience as to what route I might take. I guess I will have to repurpose my files to me a margined template instead of edge to edge ? but I also wonder about CIS (continuous ink supply) solutions. I?m willing to risk spending a bit if I have some sense of surety that it will actually work! Though it is only on a small scale and more to support my enjoyment than a viable business plan! I was wondering about a Canon Pro range printer but would be grateful for any help along the way. Regards Brian From brian at clearlight.uk.net Fri Mar 20 18:13:50 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:13:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iMac - and who is talking to me and why are they correcting my spelling with worse? Message-ID: Well we got one of the 24inch 2.66 and its very nice indeed. (along with an elgato hybrid). We decided to get direct from Apple and will likely add extended Applecare during the warranty year. Very funny when setting up and migrating and it seemed to die. I?d forgot all about sleep settings as I always manually sleep mine. We sat looking at the blank screen for quite a while ? well actually I had the movie mode going! No worries in partitioning nondestructively. All very straightforward and simple to set up. The little wireless keyboard is nice (I guessed command return might act as enter ? and it does) ? as is the remote ? and its going to take a while for the new layout and way of things to settle. But while typing here - (actually via screen sharing my Powerbook) I am periodically getting a rather clear voice reading the word and then the typo is overwritten with the contents of my clipboard. This is new to me and makes typing accurately a lot more likely ? as it is a right caper to keep getting these interruptions! What is happening here? The minijack lead that I used to pipe music to my stereo from my twin G4 doesn't seem to fit the headphone jack yet that seems ok with a pair of earbuds. The sound is very good anyway but it would be a drag if it had to go back for a headphone jack. It is wonderfully quiet in comparison with the twin G4 tower ? less noise than the triple D2 La Cie next to it. Incidentally has anyone tried the infinite mind of screen sharing with someone who is screensharing you back? And what would I need to be able to use it over the net to remote manage my daughters MacBook? Is it as simple as using iChat? regards Brian From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Mar 20 18:37:55 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:37:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iMac - and who is talking to me and why are they correcting my spelling with worse? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 20, 2009, at 18:13, Brian Steere wrote: > Incidentally has anyone tried the infinite mind of screen sharing with > someone who is screensharing you back? This was a picture i took when we did it at an NMUG meeting last year. Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 20 18:44:23 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 20 Mar 2009 18:44:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac Message-ID: Hi My sons eMac is playing - much to his annoyance. He has the 1.25Ghz model, with 1GB of RAM and running Tiger. It was fine for a while, then it started throwing kernel panics up after about 2 minutes of being turned on as well as just hanging. He has a managed account on it - he is only 6 - so I logged into my account and it did the same thing. I booted to DVD (well my iPod with the Tiger installer on it) and ran Disk Utility and it had some disk errors which I repaired. It all seemed ok for a day or so and then the problems started again. I checked Disk Utility and the disk errors were back. Any ideas? Is this the hard drive or the machine itself. I asked on some other groups and apparently eMacs have a tendancy to blow some of the capacitors on the board which cause problems - but I haven't checked them yet. If I put my PowerBook into Target mode, could I boot the eMac from the hard drive in my PowerBook. Would this be a way of checking if the hard drive in the eMac was shot? It is not the stock hard drive - I removed the 40GB and put in a 7200RPM 80GB Seagate. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 20 18:48:47 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 20 Mar 2009 18:48:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Help in choosing a laptop from the darkside In-Reply-To: <49C38F9E.5090805@davidviner.com> References: <7A60D04B-930C-4752-8CAA-E50233EDFB66@mac.com> <49C38F9E.5090805@davidviner.com> Message-ID: David Was interested in an older ThinkPad for Linux, but he is very expensive. IBM Thinkpad 240, 300 Mhz, 6.4+ GB HD, 64-192MB RAM. ?149. You can pick these up on eBay for under ?40. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 20 2009, David Viner wrote: A local guy (Jonathan Went) I've done some web work for in the past can get hold of refurbished IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. His site/email is www.bmsoftware.com / sales at bmsoftware.com - phone number(s) 0870 360 3699 or (cheaper!) 01603 612606. David Robbie Murray wrote: > if you must! > > I would look at > > http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computers/cat/Laptops > > or > > http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=602 > > and make your choice. > > Or ebay of course, but how do you know what you're getting? > > Or you could invest in VM Fusion or Parallels and buy a copy of > Windows ... > ... Or even use Boot Camp if your Mac supports it. > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > On 20 Mar 2009, at 12:24, jeremy knight wrote: > > My wife in doing an ou course. > the Stuff they send on DVD is playable only on a pc. not on a normal > dvd player. > All she would use it for is to play DVD's and perhaps some word > processing. > Will members suggest reliable cheap Laptops and where to get them > that will fill the bill please? > I think we will consider new and used . > best wishes > jeremy > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Mar 20 18:57:44 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:57:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <234CFAA2-4340-446A-B5E6-385F214322AD@virgin.net> So what about this one? Another 4GB flash drive. Paul C From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 20 19:02:36 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:02:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie 4GB USB Key In-Reply-To: <234CFAA2-4340-446A-B5E6-385F214322AD@virgin.net> References: <234CFAA2-4340-446A-B5E6-385F214322AD@virgin.net> Message-ID: awwww blesss ... !! Robbie On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:57, Paul Chapman wrote: So what about this one? Another 4GB flash drive. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 20 20:02:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:02:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New iMac - and who is talking to me and why are they correcting my spelling with worse? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:13, Brian Steere wrote: > and will likely add > extended Applecare during the warranty year. Unless you have an education discount, don't buy AppleCare direct from Apple - buy it on ebay. It's a lot cheaper! > And what would I need to be able to use it over the net to remote > manage my > daughters MacBook? Is it as simple as using iChat? Yes, just connect with iChat, and then you can take over the other person's screen (with permission, of course!) Paul From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 20 20:03:37 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:03:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <068D93B7-73EA-4524-B376-15E931E5ABF1@durrant.co.uk> On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:44, Simon Royal wrote: > If I put my PowerBook into Target mode, could I boot the eMac from > the hard drive in my PowerBook. Would this be a way of checking if > the hard drive in the eMac was shot? Yes, this is an excellent way of checking whether the kernel panics are from the memory/motherboard or from the hard disk/disk interface. Paul From penguin.999 at virgin.net Sat Mar 21 16:02:09 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] March meeting - remember the new venue Message-ID: The next meeting will be on the 25th March 2009 that being the fourth Wednesday of the month. It will be held at The Quebec in a separate room from the bar and will be from 7.30. Alan - Do we need to remind them or did you have a word after the last meeting? Quebec 93-97 Quebec Road Norwich NR1 4HY Here is a link to a map showing that it's not that far from the previous two venues. Being a new venue last time we probably were a little less controlled than usual but hopefully this coming meeting will have not so many multiple conversations. Some of us have poor hearing and when more than one person speaks we often cannot understand anything. I will hold my hands up and say I was probably guilty myself at times! I look forward to seeing you all there. Pip pip Paul C From rob at atvetsystems.com Sat Mar 21 18:52:28 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:52:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, if it's of any consolation (which I'm sure it is not) I had a brand new out of the box 2.26 GHz "Nehalem" Mac Pro panic today. It was the first panic I've seen for about three years when a 10.4 update caused panics when changing locations while Airport was active. This one was caused by plugging in a ZFS formatted FW disk. Regards, Rob. On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:44, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > My sons eMac is playing - much to his annoyance. He has the 1.25Ghz > model, with 1GB of RAM and running Tiger. > > It was fine for a while, then it started throwing kernel panics up > after about 2 minutes of being turned on as well as just hanging. He > has a managed account on it - he is only 6 - so I logged into my > account and it did the same thing. > ... > Simon From alanbarber at mac.com Sat Mar 21 19:33:45 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:33:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] March meeting - remember the new venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91522764-9FDC-4C42-AC48-9A5FFFAC363A@mac.com> Opps sorry Paul I was going to saw to Felix about the wi-fi. I did say to a lady behind the bar we would be there the 4th Weds but I will call in tomorrow and confirm Just got back from Hols today Regards Alan On 21 Mar 2009, at 16:02, Paul Chapman wrote: > The next meeting will be on the 25th March 2009 that being the > fourth Wednesday of the month. It will be held at The Quebec in a > separate room from the bar and will be from 7.30. > > Alan - Do we need to remind them or did you have a word after the > last meeting? > > Quebec > 93-97 Quebec Road > Norwich > NR1 4HY > > Here is a link to a map showing that it's not that far from the > previous two venues. > > > > Being a new venue last time we probably were a little less > controlled than usual but hopefully this coming meeting will have > not so many multiple conversations. Some of us have poor hearing and > when more than one person speaks we often cannot understand > anything. I will hold my hands up and say I was probably guilty > myself at times! > > I look forward to seeing you all there. > > Pip pip > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 21 20:14:22 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:14:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac Message-ID: Robert I bet yours doesnt have blown capacitors on the logic board though. This eMac has a capacitor with white stuff oozing from it. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Poorly eMac From: Robert Tillyard Date: 21/03/2009 18:52 Well, if it's of any consolation (which I'm sure it is not) I had a brand new out of the box 2.26 GHz "Nehalem" Mac Pro panic today. It was the first panic I've seen for about three years when a 10.4 update caused panics when changing locations while Airport was active. This one was caused by plugging in a ZFS formatted FW disk. Regards, Rob. On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:44, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > My sons eMac is playing - much to his annoyance. He has the 1.25Ghz > model, with 1GB of RAM and running Tiger. > > It was fine for a while, then it started throwing kernel panics up > after about 2 minutes of being turned on as well as just hanging. He > has a managed account on it - he is only 6 - so I logged into my > account and it did the same thing. > ... > Simon _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Mar 21 20:24:21 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:24:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ouch. It might be worth seeing if Apple will cover this, even after all this time. I suspect not. In which case, seeing as it's you, I'd suggest that a trip to Maplins for replacement capacitors, and some VERY careful soldering might fix things up. Paul On 21 Mar 2009, at 20:14, Simon Royal wrote: > Robert > > I bet yours doesnt have blown capacitors on the logic board though. > > This eMac has a capacitor with white stuff oozing from it. > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 21 20:29:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 21 Mar 2009 20:29:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul I had read into to and these logic boards are apparently layered which makes replacing capacitors quite tricky - that and I am crap at soldering. I only paid ?125 for three eMacs a few months ago - so I might see if where I got them from has anymore. Shame though. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 21 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: Ouch. It might be worth seeing if Apple will cover this, even after all this time. I suspect not. In which case, seeing as it's you, I'd suggest that a trip to Maplins for replacement capacitors, and some VERY careful soldering might fix things up. Paul On 21 Mar 2009, at 20:14, Simon Royal wrote: > Robert > > I bet yours doesnt have blown capacitors on the logic board though. > > This eMac has a capacitor with white stuff oozing from it. > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sat Mar 21 21:52:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:52:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92419D1A-481A-4DA1-97EC-D6839AC9E101@f2s.com> Start & run it in safe mode, and it may be OK: I've kept two going this way for over 12 months. Robbie On 21 Mar 2009, at 20:29, Simon Royal wrote: Paul I had read into to and these logic boards are apparently layered which makes replacing capacitors quite tricky - that and I am crap at soldering. I only paid ?125 for three eMacs a few months ago - so I might see if where I got them from has anymore. Shame though. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Mar 21 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: Ouch. It might be worth seeing if Apple will cover this, even after all this time. I suspect not. In which case, seeing as it's you, I'd suggest that a trip to Maplins for replacement capacitors, and some VERY careful soldering might fix things up. Paul On 21 Mar 2009, at 20:14, Simon Royal wrote: > Robert > > I bet yours doesnt have blown capacitors on the logic board though. > > This eMac has a capacitor with white stuff oozing from it. > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Mar 22 19:36:19 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:36:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation - great offer Message-ID: If anyone's been thinking about getting one of the previous generation iPod shuffles -- the ones with a clip /and/ controls on it -- now's a good time. The refurbished store has the 1GB model available for just ?19 including p&p and VAT http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB229ZO/A?mco=MjE0NTU0MQ Paul From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Sun Mar 22 19:50:54 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:50:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation - great offer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375992370903221250g2c0a949cvfd4c0081a07af84a@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/22 Paul Durrant : > If anyone's been thinking about getting one of the previous generation iPod > shuffles -- the ones with a clip /and/ controls on it -- now's a good time. > The refurbished store has the 1GB model available for just ?19 including p&p > and VAT > > http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB229ZO/A?mco=MjE0NTU0MQ Thanks for that Paul - ordered one for my girlfriend :) -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From brian at clearlight.uk.net Sun Mar 22 21:16:46 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:16:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation - great offer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I listen to spoken word mp3 and wonder if this shuffle remembers where it left off or not when shut down part way through a track? regards Brian PS- my recent printer Query drew a resounding silence - does no one here print professionally in small runs? Paul Durrant said recently: > If anyone's been thinking about getting one of the previous generation > iPod shuffles -- the ones with a clip /and/ controls on it -- now's a > good time. The refurbished store has the 1GB model available for just > ?19 including p&p and VAT > > http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB229ZO/A?mco=MjE0NTU0MQ > > Paul_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Mar 22 22:06:36 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:06:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation - great offer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F990DBF-B374-40B1-B904-50E38E9FA9BB@durrant.co.uk> Yes - it remembers where you are through all the tracks on the shuffle. And if you switch it off, or pause it, when you start listening again it will remember which track you were listening to when you last used it. I find mine excellent for listening to podcasts, etc. Paul On 22 Mar 2009, at 21:16, Brian Steere wrote: > I listen to spoken word mp3 and wonder if this shuffle remembers > where it > left off or not when shut down part way through a track? > regards From p.hunter at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 22 22:31:14 2009 From: p.hunter at ntlworld.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:31:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C48A8F5-07AB-4564-B1E9-C1A7595633CF@ntlworld.com> On 21 Mar 2009, at 20:29, Simon Royal wrote: > > > I had read into to and these logic boards are apparently layered > which makes replacing capacitors quite tricky - that and I am crap > at soldering. > Hi Simon, No need to worry about the board being layered. Just cut off the old cap leaving the pins still in the board, and solder the new capacitor to the old pins. It's the way I do it with all components. Peter From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Mon Mar 23 08:22:00 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:22:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPod Shuffle 2nd Generation - great offer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Paul - I've just ordered one. My original iPod is looking a bit long in the tooth. Now if only they could play FM radio as well....... Nathan On 22 Mar 2009, at 19:36, Paul Durrant wrote: > If anyone's been thinking about getting one of the previous > generation iPod shuffles -- the ones with a clip /and/ controls on > it -- now's a good time. The refurbished store has the 1GB model > available for just ?19 including p&p and VAT > > http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FB229ZO/A?mco=MjE0NTU0MQ > > Paul_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 23 10:04:39 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:04:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac Message-ID: <501137.20271.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I have a way you can get this fixed for free by Apple, give me a call and I will let you know how. Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Fri, 20/3/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: [NMUG] Poorly eMac To: nmug at durrant.co.uk Date: Friday, 20 March, 2009, 6:44 PM Hi My sons eMac is playing - much to his annoyance. He has the 1.25Ghz model, with 1GB of RAM and running Tiger. It was fine for a while, then it started throwing kernel panics up after about 2 minutes of being turned on as well as just hanging. He has a managed account on it - he is only 6 - so I logged into my account and it did the same thing. I booted to DVD (well my iPod with the Tiger installer on it) and ran Disk Utility and it had some disk errors which I repaired. It all seemed ok for a day or so and then the problems started again. I checked Disk Utility and the disk errors were back. Any ideas? Is this the hard drive or the machine itself. I asked on some other groups and apparently eMacs have a tendancy to blow some of the capacitors on the board which cause problems - but I haven't checked them yet. If I put my PowerBook into Target mode, could I boot the eMac from the hard drive in my PowerBook. Would this be a way of checking if the hard drive in the eMac was shot? It is not the stock hard drive - I removed the 40GB and put in a 7200RPM 80GB Seagate. Simon --- Visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - http://www.nmug.org.uk... Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2... The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 23 11:26:08 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:26:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem Message-ID: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> A PowerBook G4 15" (about 4 years old) belonging to a member of the family has been misbehaving intermittently and I ran some tests on it to try to isolate the problem. It is running Mac OS X 10.4.11. Running 'fsck' and 'memtest' in single-user mode resulted in a clean bill of health in both cases, but 'reboot' after the 'memtest' run resulted in a strange lock-up. The machine 'beeped' three times and a little blue light in the bar just under the screen (where the name "PowerBook G4" is printed) came on, which I have never seen before. There is a small slot in the bar (about 3mm x 1mm) and the blue LED is somewhere underneath that slot. In that state the screen was dark and neither the power button nor any other keys functioned. It was as dead as the Dodo. The only way out was to remove the battery: On replacement the machine booted normally and behaved perfectly thereafter. The 'lock-up' situation seems only to follow a 'memtest' run. If the machine is started in 'single-user' mode and then immediately given 'reboot' at the 'prompt' it behaves as expected. I have tried to find some Apple TechNote about this 'little blue light' and failed to find anything. Does anyone know what it's significance is? What kind of fault might there be to cause such a happening? I would be grateful for any comments and suggestions as to what to do next. Alan Fry From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 11:41:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 11:41:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem In-Reply-To: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> References: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and see if that helps. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 23 2009, Alan Fry wrote: A PowerBook G4 15" (about 4 years old) belonging to a member of the family has been misbehaving intermittently and I ran some tests on it to try to isolate the problem. It is running Mac OS X 10.4.11. Running 'fsck' and 'memtest' in single-user mode resulted in a clean bill of health in both cases, but 'reboot' after the 'memtest' run resulted in a strange lock-up. The machine 'beeped' three times and a little blue light in the bar just under the screen (where the name "PowerBook G4" is printed) came on, which I have never seen before. There is a small slot in the bar (about 3mm x 1mm) and the blue LED is somewhere underneath that slot. In that state the screen was dark and neither the power button nor any other keys functioned. It was as dead as the Dodo. The only way out was to remove the battery: On replacement the machine booted normally and behaved perfectly thereafter. The 'lock-up' situation seems only to follow a 'memtest' run. If the machine is started in 'single-user' mode and then immediately given 'reboot' at the 'prompt' it behaves as expected. I have tried to find some Apple TechNote about this 'little blue light' and failed to find anything. Does anyone know what it's significance is? What kind of fault might there be to cause such a happening? I would be grateful for any comments and suggestions as to what to do next. Alan Fry _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 11:43:08 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 11:43:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Chinese Apple NetBook Message-ID: Hi Saw this interesting story on my travels this morning about a Chinese Apple NetBook. http://macenstein.com/default/archives/3404 Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 13:43:07 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:43:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker Message-ID: Hi. I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little flicker. Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight change in the darkness of the screen. It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to notice and I have never spotted it before. Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no flickering. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 23 13:46:28 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:46:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software Message-ID: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> I'm looking to buy (yes a real full legal copy - Mac's must bring out the honesty in you!) - Adobe's Dreamweaver CS4 software. Prices found include; Amazon.co.uk ?374 MacWarehouse ?357 but! Bitesizedeals.co.uk ?269 That's about ?100 cheaper - so anyone know this company and are they pukka? Maybe 'grey imports' with no warranty valid - or just very cheap? Thanks Kevin From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:08:22 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:08:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when the screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an effect of age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, just like fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and then stop. It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes > playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. > > It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it > dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little > flicker. > > Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight > change in the darkness of the screen. > > It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to > notice and I have never spotted it before. > > Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it > should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no > flickering. From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:08:06 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:08:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem In-Reply-To: References: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <2B3331C0-049D-4726-9F9A-D24365137F76@afco.demon.co.uk> On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > Alan > > Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and > see if that helps. Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing and it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. And then there's that little blue light... But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. Alan From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:12:09 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 14:12:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem In-Reply-To: <2B3331C0-049D-4726-9F9A-D24365137F76@afco.demon.co.uk> References: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> <2B3331C0-049D-4726-9F9A-D24365137F76@afco.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan That little blue light. Is it underneath the words PowerBook G4? Is it about 6mm wide by a mm or two high - this is the sleep light. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 23 2009, Alan Fry wrote: On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > Alan > > Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and > see if that helps. Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing and it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. And then there's that little blue light... But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. Alan _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:12:27 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:12:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level Message-ID: I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is line level, not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for proper recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for making low-noise recordings? I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) USB mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to choose between them. I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. Thanks, Paul From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:13:38 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 14:13:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Is that a screen problem or inverter board problem. Is it a loose cable problem. I fitted the screen a few months ago. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 23 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when the screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an effect of age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, just like fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and then stop. It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes > playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. > > It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it > dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little > flicker. > > Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight > change in the darkness of the screen. > > It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to > notice and I have never spotted it before. > > Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it > should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no > flickering. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Mar 23 14:15:04 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:15:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic Cheers, David 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : > I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is line level, > not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external > microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for proper > recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for making > low-noise recordings? > > I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) USB > mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to choose > between them. > > I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a > solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:37:55 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:37:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C2753B4-0A44-4D6B-BD98-2B8805A30990@durrant.co.uk> Well, if it's the problem I suggested, then the answer is neither - it's a backlight problem. The actual small fluorescent tube that provides the illumination. If it fails, a replacement tube should fix it up fine. Of course, it's possible that it's something else, even a loose cable. But I don't think so. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Simon Royal wrote: > Paul > > Is that a screen problem or inverter board problem. Is it a loose > cable problem. I fitted the screen a few months ago. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 23 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > > It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when > the screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an > effect of age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, > just like fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and > then stop. > > It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes >> playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. >> >> It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it >> dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a >> little flicker. >> >> Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a >> slight change in the darkness of the screen. >> >> It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to >> notice and I have never spotted it before. >> >> Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as >> it should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine >> no flickering. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:39:47 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:39:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks David - that might well be what I need. I did have the first version once, but that died with Mac OS X. (It was a hardware problem that they fixed in later versions.) Any other suggestions? Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:15, David Reynolds wrote: > You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. > > http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic > > Cheers, > > David > > 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : >> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >> line level, >> not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external >> microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for >> proper >> recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for >> making >> low-noise recordings? >> >> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) >> USB >> mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to >> choose >> between them. >> >> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a >> solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 14:53:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:53:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Just Died... Help Message-ID: Hi. My TiBook was working fine. Then I noticed it wasn't charging. My battery lasts between 10 mins and an hour depending on how it feels. It must have been fine as I've been on it all morning. I've pulled out the plug and reinserted it - nothing. I changed the fuse in the plug - nothing. I pulled apart the clover leaf and put it back - nothing. Help. I am computerless, Macless, it is like my arm is cut off. Any ideas. It is one of the cheap white power adapters. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From tomkershaw at mac.com Mon Mar 23 14:56:52 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:56:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C7A334.90006@mac.com> Paul, I have an Edirol UA-25 USB audio interface with XLR and jack connections; I seem to remember the cost was around ?100. That model may no longer be available but Edirol market a series of low cost audio devices. Tom. Paul Durrant wrote: > Thanks David - that might well be what I need. I did have the first > version once, but that died with Mac OS X. (It was a hardware problem > that they fixed in later versions.) > > Any other suggestions? > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:15, David Reynolds wrote: > >> You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. >> >> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic >> >> Cheers, >> >> David >> >> 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : >>> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >>> line level, >>> not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external >>> microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for >>> proper >>> recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for >>> making >>> low-noise recordings? >>> >>> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) USB >>> mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to choose >>> between them. >>> >>> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a >>> solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From wjhurst44 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 23 14:59:30 2009 From: wjhurst44 at hotmail.com (Jeff Hurst) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:59:30 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] RE: Pismo DVD woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apple Powerbook G3 "Pismo" with G4 550 mghz upgrade 100 gig HD Tiger OSX and OS 9.2 From: wjhurst44 at hotmail.com To: g-books at googlegroups.com Subject: Pismo DVD woes Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:40:11 -0500 Hello G3 users, I just sold a Pismo that the buyer claims the dvd drive playsdvds but would not play cd;s of any kind. I sent him a different DVD drive that worked on both DVD and CDs before I sent it . Now he says this doesn't work either on either mode. I am at a loss. This Pismo is loaded with Tiger and Office 2008 and has an airport card. He only uses dial up so that would bog him down if needed a software upgrade. He says that Itunes will not work either. What should I do?? Help Jeff Apple Powerbook G3 "Pismo" with G4 550 mghz upgrade 100 gig HD Tiger OSX and OS 9.2 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's G-Books list, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g-books-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:02:06 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:02:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Just Died... Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9D90105A-A018-4FA7-992D-8A07BFD462FF@durrant.co.uk> It might be the power supply. (check with a voltmeter?) I have some spare iBook power supplies with the same connector - they'd be enough to charge the battery or to run the machine (but not to charge the battery and run the machine at the same time). Or it might be the connector inside the machine - on some models of iBook these would come adrift after a time since they were only attached by soldered tags. If you want to try one of the iBook adapters, just call by to pick one up. Email directly if you don't have my address. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:53, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > My TiBook was working fine. Then I noticed it wasn't charging. My > battery lasts between 10 mins and an hour depending on how it feels. > > It must have been fine as I've been on it all morning. I've pulled > out the plug and reinserted it - nothing. > > I changed the fuse in the plug - nothing. > > I pulled apart the clover leaf and put it back - nothing. > > Help. I am computerless, Macless, it is like my arm is cut off. > > Any ideas. It is one of the cheap white power adapters. > > Simon > > --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at > 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Mar 23 15:07:27 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:07:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> Hi Kevin > If you have an old but legal copy of ~CS4 the it could be cheaper to "Upgrade" rather than buy new! Martin > I'm looking to buy (yes a real full legal copy - Mac's must bring out > the > honesty in you!) - Adobe's Dreamweaver CS4 software. > > Prices found include; > > Amazon.co.uk ?374 > MacWarehouse ?357 > > but! > > Bitesizedeals.co.uk ?269 > > That's about ?100 cheaper - so anyone know this company and are they > pukka? > Maybe 'grey imports' with no warranty valid - or just very cheap? > > Thanks > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > www.martinfryphotography.com From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 23 15:09:25 2009 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael Andrews) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:09:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:15, David Reynolds wrote: > You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. > > http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic Is the imic not just an interface, i.e. not a mic itself ? Happy to be proved wrong. Personally I like the Blue Snowflake usb mic. http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=ST00233 59 of your finest pounds. I got one from here, it was faulty (unusual with Blue mics, very likely courier related) but they replaced it no bother. It's fairly amazing quality compared to the in built mic of any mac I've ever used (macbook pro, ibook, imac g5). I use it for iChat and recording vocals in Garageband, which it does quite well, although it is unidirectional so best mounted right in front of you (groups of singers will need to get close ;) ). iChat is fine levels wise as long as you perch it on your machine and don't wander far. It's not a pro mic but it is above average for a usb mic imho. I have heard people say it doesn't reject ambient noise as well as some other similar mics but I don't believe that to be so, at least in my set up. The level is abit on the quiet side (so ambient noise is obviously less noticeable) on my machine (MSI Wind U100 running 10.5.6) so there could be some driver trickery afoot in that regard. Rachael From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Mar 23 15:11:35 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:11:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <375992370903230811h5ace86a5t86f27247ac0062f8@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/23 Rachael Andrews : > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:15, David Reynolds wrote: > >> You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. >> >> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic > > Is the imic not just an interface, i.e. not a mic itself ? Happy to be > proved wrong. That is exactly what it is. I figured Paul already had a microphone though and I know the iMic is a good cheap solution (as I had the same problem myself a couple of years ago). -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:12:55 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:12:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: <49C7A334.90006@mac.com> References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> <49C7A334.90006@mac.com> Message-ID: <43329856-14B0-4954-8846-64B02DB6201A@durrant.co.uk> Thanks Tom - Edirol do look interesting. Their low-end product might be what I'm after. http://www.ediroleurope.com/product_overview.php?productID=899699&country=GB Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:56, Tom Kershaw wrote: > Paul, > > I have an Edirol UA-25 USB audio interface with XLR and jack > connections; I seem to remember the cost was around ?100. That model > may no longer be available but Edirol market a series of low cost > audio devices. > > Tom. > >> > > On 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : >> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >> line level, >> not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external >> microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for >> proper >> recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for >> making >> low-noise recordings? >> >> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) >> USB >> mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to >> choose >> between them. >> >> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a >> solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:15:10 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:15:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software In-Reply-To: <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> Message-ID: <9c83344f0903230815u32e5b762se6804ca10fefbee1@mail.gmail.com> Martin - No, I don't have any old copies (not for mac, anyway). So, it's a case of bite the bullet for a full edition (at least I can upgrade legally in the future!) K 2009/3/23 Martin Fry > Hi Kevin > >> >> If you have an old but legal copy of ~CS4 the it could be cheaper to > "Upgrade" rather than buy new! > > Martin > > I'm looking to buy (yes a real full legal copy - Mac's must bring out the >> honesty in you!) - Adobe's Dreamweaver CS4 software. >> >> Prices found include; >> >> Amazon.co.uk ?374 >> MacWarehouse ?357 >> >> but! >> >> Bitesizedeals.co.uk ?269 >> >> That's about ?100 cheaper - so anyone know this company and are they >> pukka? >> Maybe 'grey imports' with no warranty valid - or just very cheap? >> >> Thanks >> Kevin >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:16:26 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:16:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <263A34F5-2DC7-4A34-8AC4-390CB76B963D@durrant.co.uk> Interesting. Also the sort of thing I might be interested in, although I'd rather have something that was easier to hold in a hand and/or in a stand, rather than designed to perch on a display. All good ideas - keep them coming :-) Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 15:09, Rachael Andrews wrote: > Personally I like the Blue Snowflake usb mic. http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=ST00233 > > 59 of your finest pounds. > I got one from here, it was faulty (unusual with Blue mics, very > likely courier related) but they replaced it no bother. It's fairly > amazing quality compared to the in built mic of any mac I've ever > used (macbook pro, ibook, imac g5). I use it for iChat and recording > vocals in Garageband, which it does quite well, although it is > unidirectional so best mounted right in front of you (groups of > singers will need to get close ;) ). iChat is fine levels wise as > long as you perch it on your machine and don't wander far. > It's not a pro mic but it is above average for a usb mic imho. I > have heard people say it doesn't reject ambient noise as well as > some other similar mics but I don't believe that to be so, at least > in my set up. The level is abit on the quiet side (so ambient noise > is obviously less noticeable) on my machine (MSI Wind U100 running > 10.5.6) so there could be some driver trickery afoot in that regard. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:18:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Just Died... Help Message-ID: Paul Just opened her up. Connector looks in tact just a lot of dust. Just tried a different 3 pin lead no difference. I dont have a spare power block and I'm stuck in Watton so can't get to you today. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] TiBook Just Died... Help From: Paul Durrant Date: 23/03/2009 15:02 It might be the power supply. (check with a voltmeter?) I have some spare iBook power supplies with the same connector - they'd be enough to charge the battery or to run the machine (but not to charge the battery and run the machine at the same time). Or it might be the connector inside the machine - on some models of iBook these would come adrift after a time since they were only attached by soldered tags. If you want to try one of the iBook adapters, just call by to pick one up. Email directly if you don't have my address. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:53, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > My TiBook was working fine. Then I noticed it wasn't charging. My > battery lasts between 10 mins and an hour depending on how it feels. > > It must have been fine as I've been on it all morning. I've pulled > out the plug and reinserted it - nothing. > > I changed the fuse in the plug - nothing. > > I pulled apart the clover leaf and put it back - nothing. > > Help. I am computerless, Macless, it is like my arm is cut off. > > Any ideas. It is one of the cheap white power adapters. > > Simon > > --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at > 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Mon Mar 23 15:26:31 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:26:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51 unpowered mic input In-Reply-To: <20090323145416.D38A0841EEA@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090323145416.D38A0841EEA@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <9D3FBC7B-8F3A-4173-8966-CF00DBC05ADF@virgin.net> I use the USB Griffin iMic. It has a switchable mic/line input and I use an old Apple unpowered mic. It even enables a B&O record pick-up, which normally needs a preamp, to work. Around ?50. Ken On 23 Mar 2009, at 02:54 PM, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Titanium Slight Flicker (Simon Royal) > 2. Mac Software (Kevin Allenby) > 3. Re: Titanium Slight Flicker (Paul Durrant) > 4. Re: PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem (Alan Fry) > 5. Re: PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem (Simon Royal) > 6. audio in - line level not microphone level (Paul Durrant) > 7. Re: Titanium Slight Flicker (Simon Royal) > 8. Re: audio in - line level not microphone level (David Reynolds) > 9. Re: Titanium Slight Flicker (Paul Durrant) > 10. Re: audio in - line level not microphone level (Paul Durrant) > 11. TiBook Just Died... Help (Simon Royal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:43:07 +0000 > From: "Simon Royal" > Subject: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker > To: NMUG > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi. > > I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes > playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. > > It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it > dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little > flicker. > > Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight > change in the darkness of the screen. > > It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to > notice and I have never spotted it before. > > Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it > should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no > flickering. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:46:28 +0000 > From: Kevin Allenby > Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm looking to buy (yes a real full legal copy - Mac's must bring > out the > honesty in you!) - Adobe's Dreamweaver CS4 software. > > Prices found include; > > Amazon.co.uk ?374 > MacWarehouse ?357 > > but! > > Bitesizedeals.co.uk ?269 > > That's about ?100 cheaper - so anyone know this company and are they > pukka? > Maybe 'grey imports' with no warranty valid - or just very cheap? > > Thanks > Kevin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:08:22 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when the > screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an effect of > age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, just like > fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and then stop. > > It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes >> playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. >> >> It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it >> dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little >> flicker. >> >> Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight >> change in the darkness of the screen. >> >> It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to >> notice and I have never spotted it before. >> >> Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it >> should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no >> flickering. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:08:06 +0000 > From: Alan Fry > Subject: Re: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2B3331C0-049D-4726-9F9A-D24365137F76 at afco.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Alan >> >> Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and >> see if that helps. > > Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing and > it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. And > then there's that little blue light... > > But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. > > Alan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: 23 Mar 2009 14:12:09 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Alan > > That little blue light. Is it underneath the words PowerBook G4? Is it > about 6mm wide by a mm or two high - this is the sleep light. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 23 2009, Alan Fry wrote: > > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Alan >> >> Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and >> see if that helps. > > Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing and > it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. And > then there's that little blue light... > > But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:12:27 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is line > level, not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered > external microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy > for proper recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest > using for making low-noise recordings? > > I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) > USB mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to > choose between them. > > I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a > solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: 23 Mar 2009 14:13:38 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Paul > > Is that a screen problem or inverter board problem. Is it a loose > cable > problem. I fitted the screen a few months ago. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 23 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: > > It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when the > screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an effect of > age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, just like > fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and then stop. > > It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes >> playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. >> >> It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it >> dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a little >> flicker. >> >> Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a slight >> change in the darkness of the screen. >> >> It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to >> notice and I have never spotted it before. >> >> Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as it >> should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine no >> flickering. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:15:04 +0000 > From: David Reynolds > Subject: Re: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > <375992370903230715y62ab66a2l660989e61030dd0a at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. > > http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic > > Cheers, > > David > > 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : >> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >> line level, >> not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external >> microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for >> proper >> recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for >> making >> low-noise recordings? >> >> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) >> USB >> mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to >> choose >> between them. >> >> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a >> solution that's ideally under ??50, but certainly not more than ? >> ?100. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:37:55 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Titanium Slight Flicker > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2C2753B4-0A44-4D6B-BD98-2B8805A30990 at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Well, if it's the problem I suggested, then the answer is neither - > it's a backlight problem. The actual small fluorescent tube that > provides the illumination. If it fails, a replacement tube should fix > it up fine. > > Of course, it's possible that it's something else, even a loose cable. > But I don't think so. > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:13, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Paul >> >> Is that a screen problem or inverter board problem. Is it a loose >> cable problem. I fitted the screen a few months ago. >> >> Simon >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> On Mar 23 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >> It sounds like the backlight is just at the edge of being on when >> the screen dims, and so may flicker slightly. This could be an >> effect of age. Eventually the screen backlight will stop working, >> just like fluorescent strip lights eventually start flickering and >> then stop. >> >> It doesn't sound like it's going to fail in the near future though. >> >> Paul >> >> On 23 Mar 2009, at 13:43, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I notice something this morning, which unless it is just my eyes >>> playing up is a kind of flickering on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. >>> >>> It doesn't when the screen is on full, but if you leave it and it >>> dulls slightly after about 20 seconds, then the screen has a >>> little flicker. >>> >>> Not a scrambled screen or anything up with the image, it is a >>> slight change in the darkness of the screen. >>> >>> It flickers between dull and a little duller, it is quite hard to >>> notice and I have never spotted it before. >>> >>> Then if you leave it for about 5 minutes the screen goes black as >>> it should. Whilst working and the screen is on bright it is fine >>> no flickering. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:39:47 +0000 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Thanks David - that might well be what I need. I did have the first > version once, but that died with Mac OS X. (It was a hardware problem > that they fixed in later versions.) > > Any other suggestions? > > Paul > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:15, David Reynolds wrote: > >> You want the Griffin iMic which is designed for exactly that purpose. >> >> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic >> >> Cheers, >> >> David >> >> 2009/3/23 Paul Durrant : >>> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >>> line level, >>> not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered external >>> microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy for >>> proper >>> recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest using for >>> making >>> low-noise recordings? >>> >>> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) >>> USB >>> mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to >>> choose >>> between them. >>> >>> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a >>> solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ? >>> 100. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:53:16 +0000 > From: "Simon Royal" > Subject: [NMUG] TiBook Just Died... Help > To: NMUG > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi. > > My TiBook was working fine. Then I noticed it wasn't charging. My > battery lasts between 10 mins and an hour depending on how it feels. > > It must have been fine as I've been on it all morning. I've pulled > out the plug and reinserted it - nothing. > > I changed the fuse in the plug - nothing. > > I pulled apart the clover leaf and put it back - nothing. > > Help. I am computerless, Macless, it is like my arm is cut off. > > Any ideas. It is one of the cheap white power adapters. > > Simon > > --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at > 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51 > ************************************ From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:49:06 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:49:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51 unpowered mic input In-Reply-To: <9D3FBC7B-8F3A-4173-8966-CF00DBC05ADF@virgin.net> References: <20090323145416.D38A0841EEA@mail.durrant.co.uk> <9D3FBC7B-8F3A-4173-8966-CF00DBC05ADF@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1B4F0B01-1BE1-4DF3-AC57-15D638C63998@durrant.co.uk> Thanks Ken. Please [snip] when replying to a digest! Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 15:26, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > I use the USB Griffin iMic. It has a switchable mic/line input and I > use an old Apple unpowered mic. It even enables a B&O record pick- > up, which normally needs a preamp, to work. > Around ?50. > > Ken > On 23 Mar 2009, at 02:54 PM, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > >> 6. audio in - line level not microphone level (Paul Durrant) >> [snip!] From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 23 15:59:14 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:59:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem In-Reply-To: References: <729A6F6F-5358-48E6-A020-6D1F573B22B8@afco.demon.co.uk> <2B3331C0-049D-4726-9F9A-D24365137F76@afco.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon, On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:12, Simon Royal wrote: > That little blue light. Is it underneath the words PowerBook G4? Is > it about 6mm wide by a mm or two high - this is the sleep light. It's only about half that size from memory -- but at the back of the machine behind the keyboard and under the words 'PowerBook G4'. Oh -- so that's the sleep light is it? As well as the one at the front? I haven't got the PB here at the moment so I can't take another look. But thanks for the information. Alan Sorry I can't help with you Titanium woes. > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 23 2009, Alan Fry wrote: > > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Alan >> >> Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and >> see if that helps. > > Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing > and it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. > And then there's that little blue light... > > But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Mon Mar 23 16:03:48 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:03:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about one of these Samson Q1U's? Comes complete with a stand and software (Windows XP, though!): http://www.musiconmypc.co.uk/samson-q1u-dynamic-usb-microphone- p-261.html?CAWELAID=290018541 Your query made me play around with some of my old mics, only to find that the input level to my Macbook Pro is indeed somewhat low! I will probably go down the imic route myself, as that way I can use my old mics. http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/9326-griffin-imic-2-usb-audio- interface.html Richard. On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:12, Paul Durrant wrote: > I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is > line level, not microphone level, so it won't work with an > unpowered external microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a > little noisy for proper recordings, so what combination of kit do > people suggest using for making low-noise recordings? > > I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) > USB mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough > to choose between them. > > I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for > a solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 16:05:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:05:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem Message-ID: Alan Yes. I have the same machine (actually mine has just decided not to work). You can see the little 'blue' although mine is more of an off white colour from both sides. It is under the screen when open but at the bottom when it is shut and it will 'breathe' like other Macs do when the are asleep. So what problem are you having with it as I seem to have quite a bit of experience with these beauties. Simon PS... By front do you mean where the screen latch button is... if so I don't think there is one there on the Titaniums. --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem From: Alan Fry Date: 23/03/2009 15:59 Simon, On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:12, Simon Royal wrote: > That little blue light. Is it underneath the words PowerBook G4? Is > it about 6mm wide by a mm or two high - this is the sleep light. It's only about half that size from memory -- but at the back of the machine behind the keyboard and under the words 'PowerBook G4'. Oh -- so that's the sleep light is it? As well as the one at the front? I haven't got the PB here at the moment so I can't take another look. But thanks for the information. Alan Sorry I can't help with you Titanium woes. > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 23 2009, Alan Fry wrote: > > > On 23 Mar 2009, at 11:41, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Alan >> >> Three beeps usually means a RAM problem. Try reseating the RAM and >> see if that helps. > > Thanks for the thought. However it's odd 'memtest' found nothing > and it's odd that it only happened on exit from 'single user mode'. > And then there's that little blue light... > > But we'll certainly try re-seating the RAMs. > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From richardbensley at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 16:13:08 2009 From: richardbensley at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:13:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903230815u32e5b762se6804ca10fefbee1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> <9c83344f0903230815u32e5b762se6804ca10fefbee1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Adobe make good products, but there are some (what I think) better alternatives than dreamweaver that cost a lot less. Take a took at Espresso from Macrabbit, and Panic Coda. Both great apps. I use Panic Coda for everything. Rich From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 23 16:26:53 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:26:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software In-Reply-To: References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> <9c83344f0903230815u32e5b762se6804ca10fefbee1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c83344f0903230926k4f82317cg4b3bea8b00c5a54e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rich I did buy Coda when I first got the mac, and it it is great, and for simple sites I like using it, but it offers little in the way of making life a little easier, plus I use a lot of dropdown menus, picture galleries and other fancy css/javasrcipt extensions - and there is no way I would want to (oor could) be writing that code longhand. I'm afraid Dreamweaver has to be at least part of our working software. Dreamweaver also offers great site management tools, although I no longer use it to ftp - I have been converted to Transmit for that! Kevin 2009/3/23 Richard > Adobe make good products, but there are some (what I think) better > alternatives than dreamweaver that cost a lot less. Take a took at > Espresso from Macrabbit, and Panic Coda. Both great apps. I use Panic > Coda for everything. > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From munkt0n at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 16:31:54 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:31:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mac Software In-Reply-To: References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> <49a953f817c163751164f7e3fcfbad9e@virgin.net> <9c83344f0903230815u32e5b762se6804ca10fefbee1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I was a little underwhelmed by the text editor in Coda, I think I'll stick with vim! On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Richard wrote: > Adobe make good products, but there are some (what I think) better > alternatives than dreamweaver that cost a lot less. Take a took at > Espresso from Macrabbit, and Panic Coda. Both great apps. I use Panic > Coda for everything. > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From ricnev at mac.com Mon Mar 23 17:03:23 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:03:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86F34D58-781D-4E46-8008-A8661D44F5DA@mac.com> P.S. If you do decide to go down the imic route, the Audio Technica ATR25 Stereo Microphone is a well-specced little mic kit with a good reputation at a very good price: http://www.turnkey.co.uk/product.php?itemid=238 - designed for video work, but very versatile as a narration mic or even for instruments and vocals at a pinch. Just the cables and adaptors packaged with it are worth the price! Richard. On 23 Mar 2009, at 16:03, Richard Nevill wrote: > How about one of these Samson Q1U's? Comes complete with a stand > and software (Windows XP, though!): > > http://www.musiconmypc.co.uk/samson-q1u-dynamic-usb-microphone- > p-261.html?CAWELAID=290018541 > > Your query made me play around with some of my old mics, only to > find that the input level to my Macbook Pro is indeed somewhat low! > I will probably go down the imic route myself, as that way I can > use my old mics. > > http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/9326-griffin-imic-2-usb-audio- > interface.html > > > Richard. > On 23 Mar 2009, at 14:12, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is >> line level, not microphone level, so it won't work with an >> unpowered external microphone. Recording from the internal mic is >> a little noisy for proper recordings, so what combination of kit >> do people suggest using for making low-noise recordings? >> >> I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics >> (expensive) USB mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't >> know enough to choose between them. >> >> I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for >> a solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than >> ?100. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kevin at sanderling.co.uk Mon Mar 23 17:43:30 2009 From: kevin at sanderling.co.uk (Kevin Allenby) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:43:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: Mac Software In-Reply-To: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c83344f0903230646k73608e44tc57ddec8d88bb1c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c83344f0903231043v40887e45g1fda2530aec73738@mail.gmail.com> I should have done a little more research - as I can now answer my own question about bitesizedeals.co.uk! Yes, they are 'grey imports' from USA and as such not covered by manufacturers warranty (and probably not able to upgrade later) - so I'll stick to a known UK based supplier - guess you get what you pay for! 2009/3/23 Kevin Allenby > I'm looking to buy (yes a real full legal copy - Mac's must bring out the > honesty in you!) - Adobe's Dreamweaver CS4 software. > > Prices found include; > > Amazon.co.uk ?374 > MacWarehouse ?357 > > but! > > Bitesizedeals.co.uk ?269 > > That's about ?100 cheaper - so anyone know this company and are they pukka? > Maybe 'grey imports' with no warranty valid - or just very cheap? > > Thanks > Kevin > From davewitham at aol.com Mon Mar 23 18:55:10 2009 From: davewitham at aol.com (davewitham at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:55:10 -0400 Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software Message-ID: <8CB7A0006869E69-30C-6B3@webmail-mh14.sysops.aol.com> Hi Folks. Upon purchasing my IMac 12 months ago, I was advised that it was unnecessary to install anti-virus software to protect against such infections, including phishing, spyware and the like. Is this still the case or does anyone think that it would be a wise precaution to take. If so, could anyone advise me on a suitable product to go for. Many thanks, Dave Witham From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 18:59:24 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:59:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software Message-ID: Hi. At present and for the forseeable future anti-virus for Mac is pointless. And currently spyware doesn't affect Macs. This could of course change. Anti-virus for Mac is currently sold on the back of a Windows user could send you a virus, not affect you and you could pass it on to another Windows user. So it is to protect Windows users, who in my opinion should buy there own anti-virus protection rather than cluttering up our nice clean Macs. Of course if you have an Intel Mac running Windows either via boot camp or VM then of course you would need anti-virus to protect that side of it. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software From: davewitham at aol.com Date: 23/03/2009 18:55 Hi Folks. Upon purchasing my IMac 12 months ago, I was advised that it was unnecessary to install anti-virus software to protect against such infections, including phishing, spyware and the like. Is this still the case or does anyone think that it would be a wise precaution to take. If so, could anyone advise me on a suitable product to go for. Many thanks, Dave Witham _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Mon Mar 23 19:20:12 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:20:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of course you might want to protect our less well secured windoze friends....from unitended infection. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 23 Mar 2009, at 18:59, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > At present and for the forseeable future anti-virus for Mac is > pointless. And currently spyware doesn't affect Macs. > > This could of course change. > > Anti-virus for Mac is currently sold on the back of a Windows user > could send you a virus, not affect you and you could pass it on to > another Windows user. > > So it is to protect Windows users, who in my opinion should buy > there own anti-virus protection rather than cluttering up our nice > clean Macs. > > Of course if you have an Intel Mac running Windows either via boot > camp or VM then of course you would need anti-virus to protect that > side of it. > > Simon > > --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at > 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) > > -original message- > Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software > From: davewitham at aol.com > Date: 23/03/2009 18:55 > > Hi Folks. > > > > Upon purchasing my IMac 12 months ago, I was advised that it was > unnecessary to install anti-virus software to protect against such > infections, including phishing, spyware and the like. > > > > > Is this still the case or does anyone think that it would be a wise > precaution to take. If so, could anyone advise me on a suitable > product to go for. > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > Dave Witham > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 19:49:27 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:49:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus software In-Reply-To: <8CB7A0006869E69-30C-6B3@webmail-mh14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB7A0006869E69-30C-6B3@webmail-mh14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: There's still no reason to install anti-virus on Macs, while it's essential on Windows. Of course, this includes running Windows under bootcamp or via Parallels or VMWare Fusion. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 18:55, davewitham at aol.com wrote: > Upon purchasing my IMac 12 months ago, I was advised that it was > unnecessary to install anti-virus software to protect against such > infections, including phishing, spyware and the like. > > Is this still the case or does anyone think that it would be a wise > precaution to take. If so, could anyone advise me on a suitable > product to go for. From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 23 20:16:23 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:16:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] audio in - line level not microphone level In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is all horses for courtses - so it depends on what you want and how much its worth spending. Anyone with a modern camera might already have quite a good mic. I have a Sampson USB mic and haven't gotten back to recording to compare but my Canon captures a good sound (in stereo if I recall) and is easy to access the files. I found recording live music quite challenging - I don't care for a digital assembly or remastering approach and literally look to make a single take. If you have any q's about the Sampson I'd do my best to answer. I'm not exactly local in Wells-next-the-Sea but if you took a trip up you could try it out. all the best Brian Paul Durrant said recently: > I just found out that the audio in on MacBooks (& other Macs) is line > level, not microphone level, so it won't work with an unpowered > external microphone. Recording from the internal mic is a little noisy > for proper recordings, so what combination of kit do people suggest > using for making low-noise recordings? > > I've been looking around, and there are line-level mics (expensive) > USB mics, even firewire audio interfaces. But I don't know enough to > choose between them. > > I'm not looking for professional level kit - i.e., I'm looking for a > solution that's ideally under ?50, but certainly not more than ?100. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 22:01:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 22:01:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] It's Alive... TiBook Dead Update Message-ID: Hi Well after checking every cable internally was connected properly, I had a fiddle with the power cable - twisting it round and pulling it slightly and hey presty... my supposedly dead TiBook has sprung into life. It is now charging slowly and the plug seems to be holding. It is a cheap white charger... so I am pressuming it is the charger and not DC board it connects too. For now at least I can use my PowerBook. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 23 22:12:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:12:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] It's Alive... TiBook Dead Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E0035D3-E143-49B3-8A48-82AE5B467B89@durrant.co.uk> It could be a broken connection in the cable from the power supply to the plug at the computer (a common problem, just near where the cable exits from the plug). Or it could be bad internal connections from the socket to the motherboard. Hopefully it's the former and a new power supply will fix things up. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Well after checking every cable internally was connected properly, I > had a fiddle with the power cable - twisting it round and pulling it > slightly and hey presty... my supposedly dead TiBook has sprung into > life. > > It is now charging slowly and the plug seems to be holding. > > It is a cheap white charger... so I am pressuming it is the charger > and not DC board it connects too. > > For now at least I can use my PowerBook. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 23 22:25:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Mar 2009 22:25:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] It's Alive... TiBook Dead Update In-Reply-To: <5E0035D3-E143-49B3-8A48-82AE5B467B89@durrant.co.uk> References: <5E0035D3-E143-49B3-8A48-82AE5B467B89@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I hope so. I opened her up earlier and everything looked ok. It is a cheap adapter - I have had them go before, pretty much the same symptoms - wiggling the power adapter or hanging it over the screen used to fix it on my old G3 Lombard. Fingers crossed it is just the adapter. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 23 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: It could be a broken connection in the cable from the power supply to the plug at the computer (a common problem, just near where the cable exits from the plug). Or it could be bad internal connections from the socket to the motherboard. Hopefully it's the former and a new power supply will fix things up. Paul On 23 Mar 2009, at 22:01, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Well after checking every cable internally was connected properly, I > had a fiddle with the power cable - twisting it round and pulling it > slightly and hey presty... my supposedly dead TiBook has sprung into > life. > > It is now charging slowly and the plug seems to be holding. > > It is a cheap white charger... so I am pressuming it is the charger > and not DC board it connects too. > > For now at least I can use my PowerBook. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 09:46:47 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:46:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Thanks For The Web Help Message-ID: Hi Just wanted to say thanks for all the help in sorting my web site out, both design wise and code wise. It seems to have done the trick. Traffic is increasing on a daily basis way faster than it has ever done before, from 100 ish visits a day to a staggering 300 visits yesterday. The bounce rate has dropped too. So thanks. I'm still after ideas for content - articles and such like. Either you write them and I will host them (full credit to whoever writes it) or give me a topic and I will write an article. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Tue Mar 24 10:21:46 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:21:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook G4 (Titanium) problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon, On 23 Mar 2009, at 16:05, Simon Royal wrote: > Yes. I have the same machine (actually mine has just decided not to > work). I am glad to see (your email this morning) that it seems to be the charger not the machine. ? propos batteries -- have you got 'Coconut"? If not a visit to might be worthwhile. > You can see the little 'blue' although mine is more of an off white > colour from both sides. It is under the screen when open but at the > bottom when it is shut and it will 'breathe' like other Macs do when > the are asleep. > > So what problem are you having with it as I seem to have quite a bit > of experience with these beauties. I am not sure if there really is a problem. The machine is now back in London with its owner, so I can't do anything more for the moment. Over the weekend I ran 'memtest' on it in single-user mode (in which all tests passed) but the machine locked up on doing a 'reboot' directly from the prompt. In this state no keys functioned and the 'little blue light' at the back came on -- the 'little blue light' you have identified as the sleep light. Not having met a 'Titanium' PB before I was expecting the sleep light to be at the front where it usually is nowadays. The truth of the matter is it was me asleep rather than the PowerBook I think... However the mystery remains why the machine locked-up in the way it did. I found that booting into single user mode followed immediately by 'reboot' at the prompt behaves as expected; the machine boots up normally. However if the 'reboot' follows a 'memtest' run it fails with a nasty crash. I note that 'memtest' starts with a 'memory lock'. Maybe at the end of the run the memory remains 'locked' which is why the 'reboot' fails? Or does it perhaps indicate a machine fault that escaped detection in the 'memtest' run? Time will tell: but meanwhile many thanks for your help, Alan From angieking at mac.com Tue Mar 24 10:55:34 2009 From: angieking at mac.com (Angie King) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:55:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer Message-ID: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not compatible with Mac Os 9). Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to be running the same system in order to help him. My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word processing, e- mail and the internet. Any suggestions very gratefully received! Thanks Angie King From davewitham at aol.com Tue Mar 24 11:00:54 2009 From: davewitham at aol.com (davewitham at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:00:54 -0400 Subject: [NMUG] Anti-Virus Software Message-ID: <8CB7A86EFF44727-ABC-38A2@WEBMAIL-DY40.sysops.aol.com> To all those who answered my query, and helped me sleep at night! THANK YOU. DW From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 11:49:08 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 24 Mar 2009 11:49:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi The last version of Internet Explorer for classic Mac will run on OS9. The last OSX version of Internet Explorer is 5.2.3 - but is very outdated. You would be better running Safari or Firefox on OSX. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 24 2009, Angie King wrote: My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not compatible with Mac Os 9). Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to be running the same system in order to help him. My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word processing, e- mail and the internet. Any suggestions very gratefully received! Thanks Angie King _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From angieking at mac.com Tue Mar 24 11:56:54 2009 From: angieking at mac.com (Angie King) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:56:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Simon Thanks for that. Do you know what version of OSX Safari or Firefox would run on? Angie On 24 Mar 2009, at 11:49, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > The last version of Internet Explorer for classic Mac will run on OS9. > > The last OSX version of Internet Explorer is 5.2.3 - but is very > outdated. > > You would be better running Safari or Firefox on OSX. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 24 2009, Angie King wrote: > > My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which > does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet > Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not > compatible with Mac Os 9). > > Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the > machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to > be running the same system in order to help him. > > My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer > version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date > machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word > processing, e- mail and the internet. > > Any suggestions very gratefully received! > > Thanks > > Angie King > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 24 12:27:04 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:27:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> Message-ID: <15553896-CC74-471D-B65B-70AF1C2BA474@durrant.co.uk> You could install the Mac OS 9 version of iCab - 3.0.5 - make sure to get the Classic English version. http://www.icab.de/dl.php If the browser is the only concern, it's probably not worth the large disruption of switching to Mac OS X. Paul On 24 Mar 2009, at 10:55, Angie King wrote: > My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which > does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet > Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not > compatible with Mac Os 9). > > Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the > machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to > be running the same system in order to help him. > > My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer > version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date > machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word > processing, e-mail and the internet. > > Any suggestions very gratefully received! From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 24 12:42:12 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:42:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Angie I think IE v5.1 is was the last for OS 8-9 - may be what he already has, but downloadable here .... http://tinyurl.com/yu5btt HTH Robbie On 24 Mar 2009, at 10:55, Angie King wrote: My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not compatible with Mac Os 9). Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to be running the same system in order to help him. My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word processing, e- mail and the internet. Any suggestions very gratefully received! Thanks Angie King _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From angieking at mac.com Tue Mar 24 13:05:22 2009 From: angieking at mac.com (Angie King) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:05:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: <15553896-CC74-471D-B65B-70AF1C2BA474@durrant.co.uk> References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> <15553896-CC74-471D-B65B-70AF1C2BA474@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <2D2239F6-0DB2-4D8F-AC04-773D6BB1274E@mac.com> Hi Paul Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try that because I am very reluctant to change anything if I can avoid it. Thanks again Angie On 24 Mar 2009, at 12:27, Paul Durrant wrote: > You could install the Mac OS 9 version of iCab - 3.0.5 - make sure > to get the Classic English version. > > http://www.icab.de/dl.php > > If the browser is the only concern, it's probably not worth the > large disruption of switching to Mac OS X. > > Paul > > > On 24 Mar 2009, at 10:55, Angie King wrote: > >> My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which >> does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet >> Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not >> compatible with Mac Os 9). >> >> Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the >> machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to >> be running the same system in order to help him. >> >> My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer >> version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date >> machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word >> processing, e-mail and the internet. >> >> Any suggestions very gratefully received! > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From angieking at mac.com Tue Mar 24 13:09:44 2009 From: angieking at mac.com (Angie King) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:09:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Internet Explorer In-Reply-To: References: <3A475942-DBF5-445B-B55C-50E3082D2A4A@mac.com> Message-ID: <69F4AF01-026D-4D60-98D0-7BCE168820E6@mac.com> Thanks Robbie Angie On 24 Mar 2009, at 12:42, Robbie Murray wrote: > Hi Angie > > I think IE v5.1 is was the last for OS 8-9 - may be what he already > has, but downloadable here .... > > http://tinyurl.com/yu5btt > > HTH > > Robbie > > > On 24 Mar 2009, at 10:55, Angie King wrote: > > My father (95 years young) has an old i-mac running Mac Os 9 which > does everything he needs. Unfortunately his version of Internet > Explorer (5 I think) no longer works (the newest version is not > compatible with Mac Os 9). > > Originally I did not install the Mac Os X which came with the > machine because I was running 9 at the time myself and I wanted to > be running the same system in order to help him. > > My question is - will the old version of Mac Os X run a newer > version of Internet Explorer OR does he need a much more up-to-date > machine? If so any suggestions please? He only really needs, word > processing, e-mail and the internet. > > Any suggestions very gratefully received! > > Thanks > > Angie King > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 14:54:11 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 24 Mar 2009 14:54:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Happy Birthday OSX Message-ID: Hi Today is the 8th birthday of OSX. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From minkennison at mac.com Tue Mar 24 14:59:51 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:59:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Happy Birthday OSX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon - you must be the master of Mac trivia! Min On 24 Mar 2009, at 14:5424 Mar 2009, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Today is the 8th birthday of OSX. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 15:14:21 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 24 Mar 2009 15:14:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Happy Birthday OSX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Min Not really, I have a t-shirt for the launch of it in 2001. It has the date written on it. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 24 2009, Min Kennison wrote: Simon - you must be the master of Mac trivia! Min On 24 Mar 2009, at 14:5424 Mar 2009, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Today is the 8th birthday of OSX. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 17:33:58 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:33:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Bad Day... Message-ID: Hi. I came very close to chucking in the Apple towel today and joined the Microsoft massive. Sometimes you just get sick of PC shops being two a penny but finding any one with Mac support is like rocking horse sh*t. Sick of good shareware being Windows only, sick of hardware tech support spouting the 'we don't support Mac' rubbish, sick of snobby Windows users looking down their virus infested noses at Mac users most of the time without even ever touched a Mac. Then I used my wifes Core Duo Vista laptop for ten minutes (five of which was waiting for it to finish booting) and remembered why I switched in the first place. I gave myself a mental slap for being an idiot and questioning my Mac integrity and got on with the rest of my day. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 24 18:49:36 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone & O2 Message-ID: Hi. I have probably asked this question before but I have forgotten the answer. I am now free of my 3 contract and looking around at who is good in my area, and O2 seem pretty good - which got me thinking about the iPhone. If I got an old 2G iPhone could I put any O2 sim in it or does it have to be an iPhone enabled sim? Also does it require USB2 or will USB work fine? What are they like for holding a reception and in poor signal areas? What limitations do they have - bearing in mind I have an all singing bluetooth, MMS, wifi, email, mp3, hsdpa capable Nokia E71? Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 19:14:25 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:14:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone & O2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2G iPhone's are rubbish in Norwich, the EDGE network is non-existent, so you're stuck with GPRS. limitations - bluetooth support for headsets only no MMS (yet..) If you can get hold of an old 2G phone, you can modify it fairly easily to take any old SIM, I just happen to have one for sale at the moment, message me direct if you're interested, which you probably won't be after I've just slated it! On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > I have probably asked this question before but I have forgotten the answer. > > I am now free of my 3 contract and looking around at who is good in my area, and O2 seem pretty good - which got me thinking about the iPhone. > > If I got an old 2G iPhone could I put any O2 sim in it or does it have to be an iPhone enabled sim? > > Also does it require USB2 or will USB work fine? > > What are they like for holding a reception and in poor signal areas? > > What limitations do they have - bearing in mind I have an all singing bluetooth, MMS, wifi, email, mp3, hsdpa capable Nokia E71? > > Simon > > --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Mar 24 23:15:27 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:15:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... Message-ID: My ex wife is finding her 500mhz CRT iMac unable to deal with ?watch it again? online and videos that are sent her. She has a small budget of up to or around ?200-250. She doesn't really want a big noisy tower. My G4 DP1.25 will soon be spare but it is noisy. I have repeatedly extolled the home virtues of portable Macs to her and she seems to have seen my point. I dipped into eBay and see that G4 iBooks might come into her range and I think would cope ok. Alternatively a flat screen iMac might give more function with less flexibility. But well loved Macs are sometimes released into the wild from NMUGgers so I thought I advertise the need here before trawling eBay. all the best Brian From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Tue Mar 24 23:22:07 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:22:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5BF45285-F238-49AA-8D14-0ECD06871780@mac.com> I have a spare 15" Imac Brian. Works fine and I use it as a back up ? basic model, not sure of the spec ? ?150 I paid for it -2 months ago ? you can have it for the same if you want it ? the bowl type. No keyboard or mouse but sure someone has one out there. I did buy a keyboard and mouse from a fellow Nmugger but they were lost in the post and I await a refund. Kelvin Vos vestros servate, meos mihi linquite mores. - You cling to your own ways and leave mine to me. (Petrarch) On 24 Mar 2009, at 23:15, Brian Steere wrote: From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Mar 24 23:30:14 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:30:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... In-Reply-To: <5BF45285-F238-49AA-8D14-0ECD06871780@mac.com> Message-ID: Let me know the spec and - if you have it connected - just check its capacity to watch the BBC iPlayer. Many are 800mhz which is just below the leopard threshold. I don't know if that really matters - but there are a few things in that which a good for new users. all the best Brian Kelvin Youngs said recently: > I have a spare 15" Imac Brian. Works fine and I use it as a back up ? > basic model, not sure of the spec ? ?150 I paid for it -2 months ago ? > you can have it for the same if you want it ? the bowl type. > No keyboard or mouse but sure someone has one out there. > > I did buy a keyboard and mouse from a fellow Nmugger but they were > lost in the post and I await a refund. > > Kelvin > Vos vestros servate, meos mihi linquite mores. > - You cling to your own ways and leave mine to me. (Petrarch) > > On 24 Mar 2009, at 23:15, Brian Steere wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Tue Mar 24 23:38:51 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:38:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK will check tomorrow Brian. Not bothered about selling it as it is a great spare but, well, I have a couple of spares now and well, my wife, well you know the rest!! I use it to design the mugs, mouse-mats and things that I sell. Speaking of which ...... On 24 Mar 2009, at 23:30, Brian Steere wrote: > Let me know the spec and - if you have it connected - just check its > capacity to watch the BBC iPlayer. > Many are 800mhz which is just below the leopard threshold. I don't > know if > that really matters - but there are a few things in that which a > good for > new users. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 25 00:05:57 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:05:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... Message-ID: Brian If you are talking about catch up services for TV channels, be aware. ITV have just made there service only for the Silverlight 2 plugin which is available for Intel Macs but not PowerPC Macs (they are stuck on Silverlight 1). And Channel 4 still doesn't support Mac. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Looking for a Mac that can... From: Brian Steere Date: 24/03/2009 23:15 My ex wife is finding her 500mhz CRT iMac unable to deal with ?watch it again? online and videos that are sent her. She has a small budget of up to or around ?200-250. She doesn't really want a big noisy tower. My G4 DP1.25 will soon be spare but it is noisy. I have repeatedly extolled the home virtues of portable Macs to her and she seems to have seen my point. I dipped into eBay and see that G4 iBooks might come into her range and I think would cope ok. Alternatively a flat screen iMac might give more function with less flexibility. But well loved Macs are sometimes released into the wild from NMUGgers so I thought I advertise the need here before trawling eBay. all the best Brian _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Wed Mar 25 07:04:00 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:04:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4 for Sale? Message-ID: Having acquired a new 2.26 * core Mac Pro last week I'm thinking about selling my old Graphite G4 450 Mhz PowerMac Bought from new in February 2000! Currently running as a file server connected to my main mac via Firewire or ethernet. Solid but slow compared to new kit but more than adequate for light work. Running latest build of Leopard (No Core Image effects). I still have the original OS 9 Install disk as well. 1.5GB RAM 1 x 20 GB Drive (original) 1 x 75 GB Drive 2 x 120 GB Drives 1 x 200 GB Drive Original 1st issue Airport Card (Apple) Sonnet Tempo ATA Card SCSI Card Pioneer DVR 109 CD/DVD writer I also have an old SCSI CD writer and a Polaroid 4000 DPI 35mm film scanner tucked away in the loft plus a few other bits. I would also be able to release 1 x 300 GB Maxtor SATA if anyone wants one Any body interested? I have some old copies of Toast and other software I might be able to bundle/clear out. Serious offers only please. If you want to discuss further please contact me off line. Having just shelled out some substantial money for the Mac Pro not able to consider gifting as I'd like to raise funds for a further HDD for it. I appreciate that after all this time this little lot won't raise oodles of dosh but I gather series 1 Apple Airport Cards are now quite rare so that in itself should be worth a little. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Mar 25 13:48:11 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:48:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Airport Stopped Working Message-ID: OSC 10.5.6 MacBook 2.4GHz I normally use this machine on Ethernet with Airport turned off. I Turn On Airport every now and then. The other day I could not do so. I tried every combo in Network but to no avail. The menu icon stayed blank. I checked the hardware configuration to see if Airport was being reported and it was. I then ran the Apple Hardware Test (Reboot: Hold down D). This reported no hardware problem. I ran the extended test option and again, no hardware problem. Upon reboot, I find Airport is now back! I've no idea what happened. This may help some poor soul in a similar situation in the future. From fowler.j at me.com Wed Mar 25 13:47:35 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:47:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4 for Sale? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Stephen I would be interested in the airport card definately if you could give me a price. Also I may be interested in the G4 but will contact u at a later date if it still available. Jon Sent from my iPhone On 25 Mar 2009, at 07:04, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Having acquired a new 2.26 * core Mac Pro last week I'm thinking > about selling my old Graphite G4 450 Mhz PowerMac > > Bought from new in February 2000! > > Currently running as a file server connected to my main mac via > Firewire or ethernet. Solid but slow compared to new kit but more > than adequate for light work. > > Running latest build of Leopard (No Core Image effects). I still > have the original OS 9 Install disk as well. > > 1.5GB RAM > 1 x 20 GB Drive (original) > 1 x 75 GB Drive > 2 x 120 GB Drives > 1 x 200 GB Drive > > Original 1st issue Airport Card (Apple) > Sonnet Tempo ATA Card > SCSI Card > Pioneer DVR 109 CD/DVD writer > > I also have an old SCSI CD writer and a Polaroid 4000 DPI 35mm film > scanner tucked away in the loft plus a few other bits. > > I would also be able to release 1 x 300 GB Maxtor SATA if anyone > wants one > > Any body interested? I have some old copies of Toast and other > software I might be able to bundle/clear out. Serious offers only > please. If you want to discuss further please contact me off line. > > Having just shelled out some substantial money for the Mac Pro not > able to consider gifting as I'd like to raise funds for a further > HDD for it. > > I appreciate that after all this time this little lot won't raise > oodles of dosh but I gather series 1 Apple Airport Cards are now > quite rare so that in itself should be worth a little. > > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 25 16:34:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:34:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] How Long Will My TiBook Sleep Message-ID: Hi. I am still having charger problems with my TiBook. I couldn't get the charger working again yesterday and about 12 yesterday afternoon it shut off asleep I presume as the little light under the screen is breathing. It is still breathing now. I am hoping to pick another charger up tomorrow. How long will it sleep for? Will it just wake once I plug a good charger into it and press Escape? Also. Will the charger from a 17" Aluminium fit my 15" Titanium? I'm sure the guy said it was from a 17". Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Mar 25 16:44:30 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:44:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] My iPod Message-ID: Hi I have a 40GB iPod Photo and I wondered how much it is worth. It is in excellent condition, with all the cables. It is just a bit big to carry around on my hip. I was looking at maybe an 8GB Nano. It might stop me filling it with rubbish music I just skip over anyway and just put on the tracks I like. Are these all USB only or can they be used with firewire? Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 25 17:36:41 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:36:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Image viewer? Message-ID: Is there a free Image viewer I can download ? I find Bridge so slow with large image numbers (15,000+) I am trying to find 3 dog breeds within the 15,000 pictures! Regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 25 18:44:58 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:44:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire Message-ID: Are firewire hubs available? Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From minkennison at mac.com Wed Mar 25 18:49:57 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:49:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> Yes Martin. I bought one in Maplins Min On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:4425 Mar 2009, Martin Fry wrote: > Are firewire hubs available? > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 25 19:23:32 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:23:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> References: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> Message-ID: <1487e062a093f3d083051847e6c18728@virgin.net> Hi Min When i went into Maplin's they told me that they don't exist, hence my question! Martin www.martinfryphotography.com > Yes Martin. I bought one in Maplins > Min > >> Are firewire hubs available? >> >> Martin From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 25 19:48:30 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:48:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Image viewer? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quick look is pretty good! regards Brian Martin Fry said recently: > Is there a free Image viewer I can download ? > > I find Bridge so slow with large image numbers (15,000+) > > I am trying to find 3 dog breeds within the 15,000 pictures! > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 25 19:52:41 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:52:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> References: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> Message-ID: <99CAD43E-F1A6-41DA-9E7A-3E041AF19516@virgin.net> hi again Min I have looked on the web and all the hubs seem to be Belken with 4 USB and just 2 firewire? is there anything with all firewire? Martin > Yes Martin. I bought one in Maplins > Min > On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:4425 Mar 2009, Martin Fry wrote: > >> Are firewire hubs available? >> >> Martin >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Wed Mar 25 20:23:53 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:23:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Image viewer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1E526D25-CA5D-4B54-BAE7-1160B9C39602@virgin.net> hi Brian S Quick look seems to be only for O/S 10.5. I've got 10.4 Martin > Quick look is pretty good! > regards > Brian > > > Martin Fry said recently: > >> Is there a free Image viewer I can download ? >> >> I find Bridge so slow with large image numbers (15,000+) >> >> I am trying to find 3 dog breeds within the 15,000 pictures! >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 20:44:31 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:44:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Image viewer? In-Reply-To: <1E526D25-CA5D-4B54-BAE7-1160B9C39602@virgin.net> References: <1E526D25-CA5D-4B54-BAE7-1160B9C39602@virgin.net> Message-ID: 'just looking' is quite good, nice and fast too http://chipmunkninja.com/tag/justlooking >> Martin Fry said recently: >> >>> Is there a free Image viewer I can download ? >>> >>> I find Bridge so slow with large image numbers (15,000+) >>> >>> I am trying to find 3 dog breeds within the 15,000 pictures! >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> www.martinfryphotography.com >>> _______________________________________________ From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Mar 25 20:51:59 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:51:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Changing Column Widths on Open Dialogs Message-ID: Anyone know how to change the column widths for the Open dialogs? I have a lot of long filenames and the way the Open dialog comes up means I'm having to constantly widen the columns in the dialog box so I can see the filename endings. I want to permanently set these columns wider. From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 25 22:38:24 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:38:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <20090325204438.1A18784552B@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090325204438.1A18784552B@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <17E8151F-B4DC-406D-A95B-3B956199C86D@ntlworld.com> Yes indeed, I've had a Belkin one for a long time. Jim. =============================================== On 25 Mar 2009, at 20:44, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:44:58 +0000 > From: Martin Fry > Subject: [NMUG] Firewire > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Are firewire hubs available? > > Martin From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Mar 25 22:52:23 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:52:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000A7IDVG On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:44, Martin Fry wrote: > Are firewire hubs available? From macman at f2s.com Wed Mar 25 22:56:56 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:56:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1458C73A-E8FB-43ED-A878-66E74AFA07C4@f2s.com> Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku Also from Apple http://tinyurl.com/c2zodh .... or simply Google 'Firewire Hub' - they're are plenty around! Robbie On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:44, Martin Fry wrote: Are firewire hubs available? Martin www.martinfryphotography.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 25 23:00:59 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:00:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Image viewer? In-Reply-To: <1E526D25-CA5D-4B54-BAE7-1160B9C39602@virgin.net> Message-ID: Sorry Martin. How about Graphic Converter then? pretty quick to browse whatever size thumbs you want - straight from a folder. You probably need 'Take a Break' to come up for a breather though with that many images to manually wade through. But Quicklook is very useful and not just for one at a time - but can show multi pane multiple selection thumbs as well as showing a quick look while using the cursor to move selection through a folder of files. More to leopard than spots! regards Brian Martin Fry said recently: > hi Brian S > > Quick look seems to be only for O/S 10.5. I've got 10.4 > > Martin > > > >> Quick look is pretty good! >> regards >> Brian >> >> >> Martin Fry said recently: >> >>> Is there a free Image viewer I can download ? >>> >>> I find Bridge so slow with large image numbers (15,000+) >>> >>> I am trying to find 3 dog breeds within the 15,000 pictures! >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> www.martinfryphotography.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Wed Mar 25 23:14:31 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:14:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Changing Column Widths on Open Dialogs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Stefan (In Leopard) You can drag the dialog window wider as well as resize the column widths and the wider window seems to be remembered on a per application basis. You can use the Finder shortcuts to switch views (oo icon view is weird in an open dialog). So Apple-2 give immediate access to list view where you get more width. You can hover over an item otherwise truncated and see its full name briefly in a tool tip popup. In Column view You can double click the two vertical lines at the foot of the divider to auto expand to the widest filename. (As in Finder Windows) all the best Brian stefan youngs said recently: > Anyone know how to change the column widths for the Open dialogs? > > I have a lot of long filenames and the way the Open dialog comes up > means I'm having to constantly widen the columns in the dialog box so > I can see the filename endings. I want to permanently set these > columns wider. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Thu Mar 26 06:39:22 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:39:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <99CAD43E-F1A6-41DA-9E7A-3E041AF19516@virgin.net> References: <28E661DE-7022-46F0-9EBC-2D414EC28239@mac.com> <99CAD43E-F1A6-41DA-9E7A-3E041AF19516@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hi Martin Mine is a 6 port all firewire hub. Alan says he thinks I bought it, not at Maolins, but at the Apple store in Cambridge. It is made by Belkin. It has on it the number P10481 - not sure if that is the part no or not. Hope this helps Min On 25 Mar 2009, at 19:5225 Mar 2009, Martin Fry wrote: > hi again Min > > > I have looked on the web and all the hubs seem to be Belken with 4 > USB and just 2 firewire? is there anything with all firewire? > > Martin > > > > > >> Yes Martin. I bought one in Maplins >> Min >> On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:4425 Mar 2009, Martin Fry wrote: >> >>> Are firewire hubs available? >>> >>> Martin >>> www.martinfryphotography.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Thu Mar 26 09:36:50 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:36:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <1458C73A-E8FB-43ED-A878-66E74AFA07C4@f2s.com> References: <1458C73A-E8FB-43ED-A878-66E74AFA07C4@f2s.com> Message-ID: <6509a7794d55310d4c724d9e0a3e5d12@virgin.net> Thanks to all ! I have ordered one from Amazon Regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com > http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku > > Are firewire hubs available? > > Martin > From dan_tombs at hotmail.com Thu Mar 26 10:27:04 2009 From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:27:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: <6509a7794d55310d4c724d9e0a3e5d12@virgin.net> References: <1458C73A-E8FB-43ED-A878-66E74AFA07C4@f2s.com> <6509a7794d55310d4c724d9e0a3e5d12@virgin.net> Message-ID: Also, if you have a firewire external hard drive, many of them have additional firewire ports which allow you to connect further devices - thus acting as a hub! (great for getting round the absence of fw400 on new macs!) I know you've ordered one but thought this would be useful to folks Dan > From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Firewire > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:36:50 +0000 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > > > Thanks to all ! > > I have ordered one from Amazon > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku > > > > Are firewire hubs available? > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage ? Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/ From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 10:45:02 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:45:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire Message-ID: Dan However, I have a powered firewire external case with a hard drive in it and normally have my iPod daisy chained off it. It will charge the iPod if the hard drive is turned on at the mains but the drive is turned off on the back but it wont connect the iPod to my Mac unless the drive is turned on on the back. So daisy chaining works as long as the hosting drive is on. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: RE: [NMUG] Firewire From: Dan Tombs Date: 26/03/2009 10:27 Also, if you have a firewire external hard drive, many of them have additional firewire ports which allow you to connect further devices - thus acting as a hub! (great for getting round the absence of fw400 on new macs!) I know you've ordered one but thought this would be useful to folks Dan > From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Firewire > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:36:50 +0000 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > > > Thanks to all ! > > I have ordered one from Amazon > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku > > > > Are firewire hubs available? > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage ? Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 26 10:52:15 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:52:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire In-Reply-To: References: <1458C73A-E8FB-43ED-A878-66E74AFA07C4@f2s.com> <6509a7794d55310d4c724d9e0a3e5d12@virgin.net> Message-ID: Good point - I agree absolutely. I don't know just how far down the line you can daisy-chain, but I certainly have an 80gb portable drive running off of my external Time Machine drive, and it too has a spare port, so I guess I could connect a third device to that. The portable does, however, receive its power from the TM drive, so maybe there would come a point where there was insufficient juice in the chain, but if all devices had an independent power supply, perhaps it could go on forever! The beauty of it, too, for those of us old enough to remember SCSI chains, is that there's no termination required ..... Robbie On 26 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Dan Tombs wrote: Also, if you have a firewire external hard drive, many of them have additional firewire ports which allow you to connect further devices - thus acting as a hub! (great for getting round the absence of fw400 on new macs!) I know you've ordered one but thought this would be useful to folks Dan > From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Firewire > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:36:50 +0000 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > > > Thanks to all ! > > I have ordered one from Amazon > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > >> http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku >> >> Are firewire hubs available? >> >> Martin >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage ? Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 10:59:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:59:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firewire Message-ID: <3YTrCc5qpf7s.QjZJsyNH@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Robbie Hmmm... SCSI... A wonder of computing past. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Firewire From: Robbie Murray Date: 26/03/2009 10:52 Good point - I agree absolutely. I don't know just how far down the line you can daisy-chain, but I certainly have an 80gb portable drive running off of my external Time Machine drive, and it too has a spare port, so I guess I could connect a third device to that. The portable does, however, receive its power from the TM drive, so maybe there would come a point where there was insufficient juice in the chain, but if all devices had an independent power supply, perhaps it could go on forever! The beauty of it, too, for those of us old enough to remember SCSI chains, is that there's no termination required ..... Robbie On 26 Mar 2009, at 10:27, Dan Tombs wrote: Also, if you have a firewire external hard drive, many of them have additional firewire ports which allow you to connect further devices - thus acting as a hub! (great for getting round the absence of fw400 on new macs!) I know you've ordered one but thought this would be useful to folks Dan > From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Firewire > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:36:50 +0000 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > > > Thanks to all ! > > I have ordered one from Amazon > > Regards > > Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > >> http://tinyurl.com/2s94ku >> >> Are firewire hubs available? >> >> Martin >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage ? Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/_______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Mar 26 12:39:31 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:39:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Another Mac stockist Message-ID: Hello all, Most of you probably already know that Warehouse Express, off the Drayton Road are now Apple stockists, Ken From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 13:25:33 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 26 Mar 2009 13:25:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Charger Lights Message-ID: Hi I just picked up a genuine Apple charger for my TiBook. I presume orange meanings it is charging. It worked straight away so it seems it was just my charger up the shoot and not my PowerBook which is a good thing. When I first plugged it in it stayed green - even though the battery was dead and System Profiler said it wasn't charging - just powering it. But after a couple of minutes it turned orange and now says charging. The guy I got it from said it was from his TiBook, so would this make it a 65w or 45w one? It has been in sleep for about two days so it will have severely drained my already rubbish battery - so it will take a while to charge. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 26 14:23:49 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:23:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine Message-ID: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to attach the drive to the back of the iMac. The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - Firewire 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) Paul From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 14:33:36 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 26 Mar 2009 14:33:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Charging Problems Message-ID: Hi I am charging my PowerBook with the new charger I picked up earlier. It is a proper Apple one and it is a 65w one. It is showing an orange light - it has been charging for over 45 minutes but the icon in the menu bar still says 0%. At least 30 minutes of that was with the machine shut down completely. My battery (which lasts 90 minutes maximum on a full charge) even with the old 45w charger never took that long to charge and would have been showing a percentage in the menu bar by now. Any ideas? The machine went into sleep mode about two days ago and was only woke up about an hour ago - is this the reason it is taking so long to charge or has this completely ruined my battery? Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From davidenglish at mac.com Thu Mar 26 14:38:17 2009 From: davidenglish at mac.com (David English) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:38:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <90511140858977439794474708551163596136-Webmail@me.com> Hello all Apologies if I have missed previous discussion .....Firewire or USB? What is the benefit of one over the other? What would be better for Time Machine? David From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 26 14:54:27 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <90511140858977439794474708551163596136-Webmail@me.com> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> <90511140858977439794474708551163596136-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: Firewire is faster, even Firewire 400. It also supplies more power, so portable devices can run off a firewire port with no problem, but two USB ports are usually needed to provide enough power. I would always use Firewire for external disks is possible. Of course, if you have one of the new Aluminium MacBooks you'll have to use USB. Paul On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:38, David English wrote: > Apologies if I have missed previous discussion .....Firewire or USB? > What is the benefit of one over the other? > What would be better for Time Machine? From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 26 15:00:52 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:00:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> That's good price, Paul, but the spec on that link implies it's USB only? Robbie On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:23, Paul Durrant wrote: At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to attach the drive to the back of the iMac. The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - Firewire 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) Paul _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ricnev at mac.com Thu Mar 26 15:23:04 2009 From: ricnev at mac.com (Richard Nevill) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:23:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> Message-ID: <19F4870C-F0AA-4561-A110-48F9CEA45E85@mac.com> Seagate's website for the FreeAgent Go Mac confirms the firewire capability and does a better job of marketing these seemingly droolworthy drives than PCWorld does. Richard. On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:00, Robbie Murray wrote: > That's good price, Paul, but the spec on that link implies it's USB > only? > > Robbie > > > On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:23, Paul Durrant wrote: > > At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important > backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us > running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). > > I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it > doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the > desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to > attach the drive to the back of the iMac. > > The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - > Firewire 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. > > http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 > > Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the > store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 26 15:33:47 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:33:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> Message-ID: <7FB9A92C-4787-488A-9D3C-E353D641429F@durrant.co.uk> It does, doesn't it. I thought there was only one model by that name, and it had firwire 400/800 as well as USB. Perhaps best to double- check before buying from PCWorld. http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=57QJ At Dabs the specification is clearer. On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:00, Robbie Murray wrote: > That's good price, Paul, but the spec on that link implies it's USB > only? > > Robbie > > > On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:23, Paul Durrant wrote: > > At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important > backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us > running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). > > I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it > doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the > desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to > attach the drive to the back of the iMac. > > The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - Firewire > 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. > > http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 > > Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the > store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Mar 26 15:41:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <19F4870C-F0AA-4561-A110-48F9CEA45E85@mac.com> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> <19F4870C-F0AA-4561-A110-48F9CEA45E85@mac.com> Message-ID: <0DB80229-3A8D-4D88-BE01-ACBE23640C36@durrant.co.uk> Having looked at the Seagate web site, I don't like the look of the dock - but withou seeing it in person it's hard to tell whether the dock is an option or required for use. A cheaper alternative (although only firewire 400) is the Iomega, e.g. http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/Iomega/1000008079 Paul On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:23, Richard Nevill wrote: > Seagate's website for the FreeAgent Go Mac confirms the firewire > capability and does a better job of marketing these seemingly > droolworthy drives than PCWorld does. > > Richard. > > On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:00, Robbie Murray wrote: > >> That's good price, Paul, but the spec on that link implies it's USB >> only? >> >> Robbie >> >> >> On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:23, Paul Durrant wrote: >> >> At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important >> backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us >> running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). >> >> I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it >> doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the >> desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to >> attach the drive to the back of the iMac. >> >> The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - >> Firewire 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. >> >> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 >> >> Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the >> store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) >> From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 26 15:44:50 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External firewire disks for Time Machine In-Reply-To: <7FB9A92C-4787-488A-9D3C-E353D641429F@durrant.co.uk> References: <4DD91098-6600-4B2C-BA08-37FCEFCF72F7@durrant.co.uk> <78DF53F5-0A07-4060-9BD6-D7083A3F13D4@f2s.com> <7FB9A92C-4787-488A-9D3C-E353D641429F@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <279C18FF-CAAF-490A-90CF-C28A4A338434@f2s.com> And it's cheaper! On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:33, Paul Durrant wrote: It does, doesn't it. I thought there was only one model by that name, and it had firwire 400/800 as well as USB. Perhaps best to double- check before buying from PCWorld. http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=57QJ At Dabs the specification is clearer. On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:00, Robbie Murray wrote: > That's good price, Paul, but the spec on that link implies it's USB > only? > > Robbie > > > On 26 Mar 2009, at 14:23, Paul Durrant wrote: > > At the meeting yesterday, I once again emphasized how important > backups were, and how very goof Time Machine was for those of us > running Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). > > I recommended getting an external 2.5" firewire drive, as then it > doesn't require an external power supply, and that cuts down on the > desktop clutter. For iMacs, you can even use sticky velcro pads to > attach the drive to the back of the iMac. > > The Seagate FreeAgent seem to be good value at the moment - Firewire > 400, 800 and USB at a reasonable cost, e.g. > > http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=475737 > > Well - reasonable cost if you order it on-line for pick-up in the > store, so you get the web price without delivery charges. :-) > > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Thu Mar 26 16:44:16 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:44:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Not quite as silly as it seems ... Message-ID: I had the undernoted spoof sent to me this morning, and while it raised a smile, it's not that far from reality: http://tinyurl.com/c8mg6m I wonder just how many are gaily signing up to mobile Broadband and logging on to iPlayer without realising the shock which could be just round the corner at the end of he month...... http://tinyurl.com/cneu56 Robbie From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 17:15:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 26 Mar 2009 17:15:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Not quite as silly as it seems ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robbie Funny and true. I got slapped with an extra ?200 on my bill from 3 about two years ago after I used my mobile phone as a modem with my Mac - even though I have an unlimited internet bundle. Apparently it is only for use directly on the handset. But they didn't budge and I had to pay it. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 26 2009, Robbie Murray wrote: I had the undernoted spoof sent to me this morning, and while it raised a smile, it's not that far from reality: http://tinyurl.com/c8mg6m I wonder just how many are gaily signing up to mobile Broadband and logging on to iPlayer without realising the shock which could be just round the corner at the end of he month...... http://tinyurl.com/cneu56 Robbie _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Thu Mar 26 19:07:58 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:07:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4 for Sale? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32DDBA80-DF31-4E60-8634-865F8B88E267@zen.co.uk> Hi Jon, Apols for not coming back earlier, busy moving files on the new Mac Pro! (Plus one or two other non Mac issues). Its very quiet! I will get back to you about the card as soon as I can. Need to do some research. It is a b card and not a b/g extreme card, though I assume you know this. So far little interest in the G4 which is a shame (Think saying I'd like a little money put Simon off!) Not looking for much but its still serviceable. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 25 Mar 2009, at 13:47, Jon Fowler wrote: > Hi Stephen > > I would be interested in the airport card definately if you could > give me a price. > Also I may be interested in the G4 but will contact u at a later > date if it still available. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 25 Mar 2009, at 07:04, Steven Jefferson > wrote: > >> Having acquired a new 2.26 * core Mac Pro last week I'm thinking >> about selling my old Graphite G4 450 Mhz PowerMac >> >> Bought from new in February 2000! >> >> Currently running as a file server connected to my main mac via >> Firewire or ethernet. Solid but slow compared to new kit but more >> than adequate for light work. >> >> Running latest build of Leopard (No Core Image effects). I still >> have the original OS 9 Install disk as well. >> >> 1.5GB RAM >> 1 x 20 GB Drive (original) >> 1 x 75 GB Drive >> 2 x 120 GB Drives >> 1 x 200 GB Drive >> >> Original 1st issue Airport Card (Apple) >> Sonnet Tempo ATA Card >> SCSI Card >> Pioneer DVR 109 CD/DVD writer >> >> I also have an old SCSI CD writer and a Polaroid 4000 DPI 35mm film >> scanner tucked away in the loft plus a few other bits. >> >> I would also be able to release 1 x 300 GB Maxtor SATA if anyone >> wants one >> >> Any body interested? I have some old copies of Toast and other >> software I might be able to bundle/clear out. Serious offers only >> please. If you want to discuss further please contact me off line. >> >> Having just shelled out some substantial money for the Mac Pro not >> able to consider gifting as I'd like to raise funds for a further >> HDD for it. >> >> I appreciate that after all this time this little lot won't raise >> oodles of dosh but I gather series 1 Apple Airport Cards are now >> quite rare so that in itself should be worth a little. >> >> >> Steven Jefferson >> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Mar 26 20:05:43 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 26 Mar 2009 20:05:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever Message-ID: Hi I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Thu Mar 26 20:18:30 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:18:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61B34F0E-EEA6-4594-88FD-A36603BB44CB@btinternet.com> I LOVE IT thanks Simon Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp On 26 Mar 2009, at 20:05, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. > > Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. > > Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me > on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From robharrington at mac.com Thu Mar 26 20:29:32 2009 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:29:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever Message-ID: Very restful on the eyes. And it is the only Ctrl+Alt+Apple and a number that works, too! Rob > Hi > > I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. > > Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. > > Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. > > Simon > From june.perrett at mac.com Fri Mar 27 07:21:54 2009 From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:21:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iLife '09 Message-ID: I have Leopard on my computer and am thinking of installing iLife '09. If you've already done so I'd like to know what you think of it. Are the NEW versions of iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD and iWeb an improvement? Are there any sections in the old iLife '08 that you still prefer? I'd be pleased to hear your comments. Many thanks. June From gill at cerise.org.uk Fri Mar 27 08:23:10 2009 From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:23:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard on a 2002 imac? Message-ID: <84B54B6E-AC7E-4533-8B4C-0CF8F8839C20@cerise.org.uk> Hello, does anyone know whether I can install Leopard onto a 2002 imac (slot- loading CD RW, snow, 600MHz G3, 512MB RAM). Or if not, Tiger? How do I manage it from the installation DVD if the imac doesn't have a DVD drive? thanks, Gill From ghowells at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 08:59:07 2009 From: ghowells at f2s.com (G.Howells) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:59:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might apply to a number of other sites. Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the word "internet" as a spelling error! Gordon. >Hi > >I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. > >Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. > >Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. > >Simon > >--- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Mar 27 09:07:52 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:07:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard on a 2002 imac? In-Reply-To: <84B54B6E-AC7E-4533-8B4C-0CF8F8839C20@cerise.org.uk> References: <84B54B6E-AC7E-4533-8B4C-0CF8F8839C20@cerise.org.uk> Message-ID: <5B8B8B05-4BD0-4B35-BDCC-1C9F325D32F9@durrant.co.uk> Leopard won't officially run on anything less than an 867MHz G4. Not so much for the clock speed as for other changes that went along with it, and it's just easier to quote the clock speed. You might find hacks to get Leopard to install, but I don't know how reliable such an installation would be. I suspect the G3 instead of the G4 would make it impossible. (Simon?) Tiger would be fine. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514 You must do the firmware update before installing Mac OS X. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130 Without an internal DVD drive you'll either need an external firewire DVD drive, or another Mac with a firewire port and DVD drive. If the latter, just put the iMac into firewire target mode and install from the other Mac. I'd recommend getting the external DVD drive - cheap and it'll give you DVD writing capabilities too. e.g. http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/DVD-Writers/sc886/p47.aspx Paul On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:23, Gill Seyfang wrote: > does anyone know whether I can install Leopard onto a 2002 imac > (slot-loading CD RW, snow, 600MHz G3, 512MB RAM). Or if not, Tiger? > How do I manage it from the installation DVD if the imac doesn't > have a DVD drive? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 27 09:23:40 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 27 Mar 2009 09:23:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard on a 2002 imac? In-Reply-To: <5B8B8B05-4BD0-4B35-BDCC-1C9F325D32F9@durrant.co.uk> References: <84B54B6E-AC7E-4533-8B4C-0CF8F8839C20@cerise.org.uk> <5B8B8B05-4BD0-4B35-BDCC-1C9F325D32F9@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul There have been reports of people installing it on a G3, but the lack of Altivec in the G3 processor means every app crashes. I have had it running on a G4 400Mhz (both a TiBook and a Sawtooth) and it is useable but as you say the lack of capable graphics card makes it painful. I am running it on an 867Mhz TiBook now - this is the minimum officially from Apple - and it runs a dream. As for installing without a DVD, if your slot loader has firewire (I know there was one 400Mhz model slot loader without firewire) you could restore the installer to a firewire hard drive (or iPod in my case). Or if you had a firewire DVD you could install using it. Tiger was available on CD via Apple but these are very hard to find. Either that or if you have another Mac with a DVD drive you could install it via Target Mode onto the iMac hard drive. If all else fails you could clone Tiger from another machine either via firewire - or removing the hard drive from your iMac and popping in a case. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 27 2009, Paul Durrant wrote: Leopard won't officially run on anything less than an 867MHz G4. Not so much for the clock speed as for other changes that went along with it, and it's just easier to quote the clock speed. You might find hacks to get Leopard to install, but I don't know how reliable such an installation would be. I suspect the G3 instead of the G4 would make it impossible. (Simon?) Tiger would be fine. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514 You must do the firmware update before installing Mac OS X. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130 Without an internal DVD drive you'll either need an external firewire DVD drive, or another Mac with a firewire port and DVD drive. If the latter, just put the iMac into firewire target mode and install from the other Mac. I'd recommend getting the external DVD drive - cheap and it'll give you DVD writing capabilities too. e.g. http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/DVD-Writers/sc886/p47.aspx Paul On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:23, Gill Seyfang wrote: > does anyone know whether I can install Leopard onto a 2002 imac > (slot-loading CD RW, snow, 600MHz G3, 512MB RAM). Or if not, Tiger? > How do I manage it from the installation DVD if the imac doesn't > have a DVD drive? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Fri Mar 27 09:33:05 2009 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael Andrews) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:33:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iLife '09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F418E4D-0B99-4181-B96C-131AB14931BF@ntlworld.com> On 27 Mar 2009, at 07:21, June Perrett wrote: > I have Leopard on my computer and am thinking of installing iLife '09. > If you've already done so I'd like to know what you think of it. > Hi June, I have only messed around with iPhoto and Garageband, and can report only three observations so far. Garageband is not fully accessible with VoiceOver (though I imagine I'm the only one around here who cares about that.) Also, a Garageband incremental update (through software update) hosed my install of Garageband 09 and I had to reinstall GB. GB crashed on startup after the update with a midi core services error - I have since declined to accept the update after a reinstall and all has stayed fine. iPhoto has the interesting new "faces" recognition which did not work on any of my photos. This may be because most of the shots containing people are from low quality phone cameras taken by me, with extremely limited vision. Unlike some who have reported on the net (as an amusing side effect), I was unable to get it to recognise my dogs (shots taken with a variety of very good cameras), but I can hardly complain as Apple never claimed it would in the first place. ;) The above info is probably not much good to you but it's all I've got to contribute right now I'm afraid. Rachael From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Mar 27 09:41:33 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:41:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9256C559-1029-4B42-BCA8-FA2F3EAC84DB@virgin.net> On Mar 27, 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: > I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and I've > found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked at the > GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white print on > black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led me to look > elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood Computers have > joined forces much of the site does not have this difficulty, but > for the parts that still do the answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and > it's much easier on the eyes. The same might apply to a number of > other sites. This reversing of the screen colours has been part of Apple's Easy Access for years now I believe. It was done to specifically help people with sight problems and can work very well as you have found out. Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 27 09:54:02 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:54:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever Message-ID: <2xcxGJPgK3YZ.Bgs8nTth@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Paul I knew that it was available in the System Preferences under Accesibility Options, but I never knew the shortcut was there. It does make it easy access and easy to return it back to normal. One thing I did notice was, when I did a screenshot when I reverted back the screenshot reverted back to, so you cant capture the screen like it. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever From: Paul Chapman Date: 27/03/2009 09:41 On Mar 27, 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: > I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and I've > found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked at the > GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white print on > black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led me to look > elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood Computers have > joined forces much of the site does not have this difficulty, but > for the parts that still do the answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and > it's much easier on the eyes. The same might apply to a number of > other sites. This reversing of the screen colours has been part of Apple's Easy Access for years now I believe. It was done to specifically help people with sight problems and can work very well as you have found out. Paul C _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Fri Mar 27 09:57:51 2009 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael Andrews) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:57:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: <9256C559-1029-4B42-BCA8-FA2F3EAC84DB@virgin.net> References: <9256C559-1029-4B42-BCA8-FA2F3EAC84DB@virgin.net> Message-ID: <35540A55-8C3D-4955-933D-174EE5019839@ntlworld.com> On 27 Mar 2009, at 09:41, Paul Chapman wrote: >> > > This reversing of the screen colours has been part of Apple's Easy > Access for years now I believe. It was done to specifically help > people with sight problems and can work very well as you have found > out. My argument has always been that inverting the graphics too means it's not that useful to people who have enough residual vision to be able to still see text and some graphics, because it makes graphics - for example, photos - unusable, but there you go. It's quick and dirty on the fly if you don't want to do any graphics though. Try this one for size - instant total visual impairment simulator. ;) alt + f5 (if this one doesn't turn VoiceOver on, the following won't work, but that's the default shortcut to turn it on anyway.) hold down shift + ctrl + alt then press f11, and remember the keys before you do it. Don't panic ! - doing it again turns it back to normal. (alt + f5 to stop it speaking again afterwards.) Rachael From gill at cerise.org.uk Fri Mar 27 10:37:10 2009 From: gill at cerise.org.uk (Gill Seyfang) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:37:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard on a 2002 imac? In-Reply-To: <20090327093315.E242F847AAA@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090327093315.E242F847AAA@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for your top tips for getting Leopard onto my trusty - and dusty - old imac (or not as the case appears to be!). It's currently running 10.3.9 and I have an old retail copy of Tiger which I'll install using target disk mode from my macbook's DVD drive. I really appreciate your advice, thanks so much, Gill From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 11:31:10 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:31:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Has anyone seen this? Message-ID: <22335900-1191-46C9-B310-7C10B0309A4B@f2s.com> This morning I've received in one of my mailboxes, an email with no headers of any kind which looks like a screen grab of an RSS feed, headed "Apple Hot News" on a blue banner, with the text "In his review of the new AirPort Express, Dan Frakes (macworld.com) awards four mice (out of five) to the base station that?s ?compact enough?to fit in a laptop bag and designed to plug directly into an electrical outlet? while providing a ?full-featured 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless access point.? He calls it ?the choice to make if you?re looking to extend your existing Apple-branded network wirelessly or to wired devices, to send your computer?s audio to a remote stereo system, or to use a Base Station in more than one location." This is followed by an un-named "Read More" link. This mailbox is hardly 2 weeks old, created for Freecycle posts due to the spam I was getting on the original, much of which was being sent by my own address to itself - obviously the product of an infected Windows machine using harvested addresses. Doesn't seem to take long for them to latch on to groups, especially those hosted by Yahoo! I've never seen anything like it before, and while it looks innocent enough, I've trashed it. Can anyone enlighten me? Robbie From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Fri Mar 27 13:50:40 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:50:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a few > things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite using > them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. > I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and > I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked > at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white > print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led > me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood > Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this > difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control > +Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might apply > to a number of other sites. > > Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the > word "internet" as a spelling error! > > Gordon. > > >> Hi >> >> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >> >> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >> >> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >> >> Simon >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me >> on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Mar 27 14:57:44 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:57:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> References: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> Message-ID: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when distracted. > Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. > > Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it > essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old eyeballs > feeling fried. I also change the background colours of folder windows > to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too many white screens > just make me feel really tired, plus a good black screen is great for > measuring your own blacks against and it prolongs the time I'm able to > work between breaks. > > ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a few >> things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite using them >> for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and I've >> found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked at the >> GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white print on >> black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led me to look >> elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood Computers have >> joined forces much of the site does not have this difficulty, but for >> the parts that still do the answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's >> much easier on the eyes. The same might apply to a number of other >> sites. >> >> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the >> word "internet" as a spelling error! >> >> Gordon. >> >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>> >>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>> >>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From minkennison at mac.com Fri Mar 27 15:35:29 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:35:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iLife '09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <085714A9-4FF2-462E-AE5D-BA4A7E15C34D@mac.com> hi June I have installed and used regularly. I think it is a vast improvement Min On 27 Mar 2009, at 07:2127 Mar 2009, June Perrett wrote: > I have Leopard on my computer and am thinking of installing iLife '09. > If you've already done so I'd like to know what you think of it. > Are the NEW versions of iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD and iWeb an > improvement? Are there any sections in the old iLife '08 that you > still prefer? > I'd be pleased to hear your comments. > Many thanks. > June > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 15:56:25 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:56:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> Message-ID: I have to confess that, although I was aware of the many keyboard shortcuts available, I have tended to stick with the common ones such as Copy/Paste/Print/SelectAll/ GetInfo/Hide/Quit, which I use all the time. Safari also has some great ones, in particular Apple-I is very useful: it will generate an instant email with a screen grab of the page you're viewing, including links, video etc. I've no idea where this is documented, as although there's a list on the Apple site, (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42951) it's not included - I was told about it by a man who was told about it by a man who was told ...... Robbie On 27 Mar 2009, at 14:57, Martin Fry wrote: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! Martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when distracted. > Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. > > Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it > essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old eyeballs > feeling fried. I also change the background colours of folder > windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too many > white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good black > screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it > prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. > > ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. > > Jeremy Webb > Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net > > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a few >> things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite using >> them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked >> at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white >> print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led >> me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood >> Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this >> difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control >> +Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might apply >> to a number of other sites. >> >> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the >> word "internet" as a spelling error! >> >> Gordon. >> >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>> >>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>> >>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me >>> on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Begin forwarded message: > From: Martin Fry > Date: 27 March 2009 14:57:44 GMT > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever > Reply-To: Norwich Mac User Group list > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! > > Martin > >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >> >> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >> >> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked >>> at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white >>> print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led >>> me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood >>> Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this >>> difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control >>> +Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might >>> apply to a number of other sites. >>> >>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the >>> word "internet" as a spelling error! >>> >>> Gordon. >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>> >>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>> >>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me >>>> on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Fri Mar 27 16:28:41 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:28:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> Message-ID: That's a really really useful one. Why on earth wouldn't they include that one? Thanks Robbie Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 27 Mar 2009, at 15:56, Robbie Murray wrote: > I have to confess that, although I was aware of the many keyboard > shortcuts available, I have tended to stick with the common ones > such as Copy/Paste/Print/SelectAll/ GetInfo/Hide/Quit, which I use > all the time. > > Safari also has some great ones, in particular Apple-I is very > useful: it will generate an instant email with a screen grab of > the page you're viewing, including links, video etc. > > I've no idea where this is documented, as although there's a list > on the Apple site, (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html? > artnum=42951) it's not included - I was told about it by a man who > was told about it by a man who was told ...... > > Robbie > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 14:57, Martin Fry wrote: > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! > > Martin > >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >> >> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >> >> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time >>> looked at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that >>> the white print on black background has done my eyes in very >>> quickly and led me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & >>> Gordon Harwood Computers have joined forces much of the site does >>> not have this difficulty, but for the parts that still do the >>> answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. >>> The same might apply to a number of other sites. >>> >>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights >>> the word "internet" as a spelling error! >>> >>> Gordon. >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>> >>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>> >>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype >>>> me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB >>>> HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Martin Fry >> Date: 27 March 2009 14:57:44 GMT >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever >> Reply-To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> >> >> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! >> >> Martin >> >>> >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >>> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >>> >>> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find >>> it essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >>> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >>> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >>> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >>> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and >>> it prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >>> >>> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time >>>> looked at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that >>>> the white print on black background has done my eyes in very >>>> quickly and led me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd >>>> & Gordon Harwood Computers have joined forces much of the site >>>> does not have this difficulty, but for the parts that still do >>>> the answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the >>>> eyes. The same might apply to a number of other sites. >>>> >>>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights >>>> the word "internet" as a spelling error! >>>> >>>> Gordon. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>>> >>>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>>> >>>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype >>>>> me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, >>>>> 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NMUG mailing list >>>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From michelehurst at mac.com Fri Mar 27 17:05:59 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:05:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] re cool short cut HELP PLease Message-ID: Yes well tried it and it worked but now it wont undo. tried pressing same keys again and a brightness symbol with a minus sign in a circle comes up. What to do??????? Michele Michele Hurst michelehurst at mac.com From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Fri Mar 27 17:25:08 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:25:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> Message-ID: Try KeyCue. great as it works across all apps. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 27 Mar 2009, at 15:56, Robbie Murray wrote: > I have to confess that, although I was aware of the many keyboard > shortcuts available, I have tended to stick with the common ones > such as Copy/Paste/Print/SelectAll/ GetInfo/Hide/Quit, which I use > all the time. > > Safari also has some great ones, in particular Apple-I is very > useful: it will generate an instant email with a screen grab of the > page you're viewing, including links, video etc. > > I've no idea where this is documented, as although there's a list on > the Apple site, (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html? > artnum=42951) it's not included - I was told about it by a man who > was told about it by a man who was told ...... > > Robbie > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 14:57, Martin Fry wrote: > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! > > Martin > >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >> >> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >> >> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked >>> at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white >>> print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led >>> me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood >>> Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this >>> difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control >>> +Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might >>> apply to a number of other sites. >>> >>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the >>> word "internet" as a spelling error! >>> >>> Gordon. >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>> >>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>> >>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me >>>> on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Martin Fry >> Date: 27 March 2009 14:57:44 GMT >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever >> Reply-To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> >> >> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! >> >> Martin >> >>> >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >>> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >>> >>> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >>> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >>> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >>> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >>> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >>> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >>> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >>> >>> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time >>>> looked at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that >>>> the white print on black background has done my eyes in very >>>> quickly and led me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & >>>> Gordon Harwood Computers have joined forces much of the site does >>>> not have this difficulty, but for the parts that still do the >>>> answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. >>>> The same might apply to a number of other sites. >>>> >>>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights >>>> the word "internet" as a spelling error! >>>> >>>> Gordon. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>>> >>>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>>> >>>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype >>>>> me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB >>>>> HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NMUG mailing list >>>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 17:34:07 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:34:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever In-Reply-To: References: <756F8AD1-9E8E-4156-A5DB-957F34904F55@virgin.net> Message-ID: <105DB181-DBA3-4F95-9163-876A8DCB9ED1@f2s.com> Thanks Steven: that's a cracker! Robbie On 27 Mar 2009, at 17:25, Steven Jefferson wrote: Try KeyCue. great as it works across all apps. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 27 Mar 2009, at 15:56, Robbie Murray wrote: > I have to confess that, although I was aware of the many keyboard > shortcuts available, I have tended to stick with the common ones > such as Copy/Paste/Print/SelectAll/ GetInfo/Hide/Quit, which I use > all the time. > > Safari also has some great ones, in particular Apple-I is very > useful: it will generate an instant email with a screen grab of the > page you're viewing, including links, video etc. > > I've no idea where this is documented, as although there's a list on > the Apple site, (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html? > artnum=42951) it's not included - I was told about it by a man who > was told about it by a man who was told ...... > > Robbie > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 14:57, Martin Fry wrote: > > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! > > Martin > >> > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > > > >> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >> >> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >> >> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >> >> Jeremy Webb >> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time looked >>> at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that the white >>> print on black background has done my eyes in very quickly and led >>> me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & Gordon Harwood >>> Computers have joined forces much of the site does not have this >>> difficulty, but for the parts that still do the answer is Control >>> +Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. The same might >>> apply to a number of other sites. >>> >>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights the >>> word "internet" as a spelling error! >>> >>> Gordon. >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>> >>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>> >>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me >>>> on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Martin Fry >> Date: 27 March 2009 14:57:44 GMT >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Coolest Shortcut Ever >> Reply-To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> >> >> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! YUP! >> >> Martin >> >>> >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> I'm still getting over playing with the f 11 button when >>> distracted. Wheeeee, wehaaay! there I go again. >>> >>> Seriously though, most of my mac work is with images and I find it >>> essential to use a black background desktop to stop the old >>> eyeballs feeling fried. I also change the background colours of >>> folder windows to darker colours for exactly the same reason. Too >>> many white screens just make me feel really tired, plus a good >>> black screen is great for measuring your own blacks against and it >>> prolongs the time I'm able to work between breaks. >>> >>> ... wondering if any other NMUGgers have found the same thing. >>> >>> Jeremy Webb >>> Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 Mar 2009, at 08:59, G.Howells wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> The last few days I have discovered from various NMUG emails a >>>> few things I hadn't discovered previously on the Mac, despite >>>> using them for years from )OS7? to Leopard. >>>> I was amused by Simon's trying Ctrl+Alt+Apple(Command)+ 8, and >>>> I've found a serious use for it. I have, from time to time >>>> looked at the GHC computer site on the internet and found that >>>> the white print on black background has done my eyes in very >>>> quickly and led me to look elsewhere, Now that Square Group Ltd & >>>> Gordon Harwood Computers have joined forces much of the site does >>>> not have this difficulty, but for the parts that still do the >>>> answer is Control+Alt+Apple+8 and it's much easier on the eyes. >>>> The same might apply to a number of other sites. >>>> >>>> Incidentally, in typing his I've found that Eudora highlights >>>> the word "internet" as a spelling error! >>>> >>>> Gordon. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I just stumbled across the coolest keyboard shortcut ever. >>>>> >>>>> Hold Ctrl+Alt+Apple and press 8. >>>>> >>>>> Don't worry, pressing it again returns it to normal. >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype >>>>> me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB >>>>> HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NMUG mailing list >>>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 27 18:21:27 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:21:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari event Message-ID: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> Help please, whenever I quit Safari ( 3.2.1 ) on my Macbook running Leopard 10.5.6, it hangs for 10-15 secs then as it goes an 'unexpected quit' notice appears. I've reported this to Apple more than once and now click 'ignore'. Can anyone point me at the correct procedure to eliminate this annoyance? Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From david at vanedwards.co.uk Fri Mar 27 16:31:29 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:31:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: <22335900-1191-46C9-B310-7C10B0309A4B@f2s.com> References: <22335900-1191-46C9-B310-7C10B0309A4B@f2s.com> Message-ID: Dear Robbie, Hasn't appeared here yet! Best wishes, David >This morning I've received in one of my >mailboxes, an email with no headers of any kind >which looks like a screen grab of an RSS feed, >headed "Apple Hot News" on a blue banner, with >the text > >"In his review of the new AirPort Express, Dan >Frakes (macworld.com) awards four mice (out of >five) to the base station that's "compact >enough?to fit in a laptop bag and designed to >plug directly into an electrical outlet" while >providing a "full-featured 802.11 a/b/g/n >wireless access point." He calls it "the choice >to make if you're looking to extend your >existing Apple-branded network wirelessly or to >wired devices, to send your computer's audio to >a remote stereo system, or to use a Base Station >in more than one location." > >This is followed by an un-named "Read More" link. > >This mailbox is hardly 2 weeks old, created for >Freecycle posts due to the spam I was getting on >the original, much of which was being sent by my >own address to itself - obviously the product of >an infected Windows machine using harvested >addresses. Doesn't seem to take long for them >to latch on to groups, especially those hosted >by Yahoo! > >I've never seen anything like it before, and >while it looks innocent enough, I've trashed it. > >Can anyone enlighten me? > >Robbie_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 20:00:08 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:00:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari event In-Reply-To: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> References: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <854635F8-184F-482C-854E-7A3B900C0778@f2s.com> Download & install V4? (There's an uninstall option in the bundle if you don't like it) Robbie On 27 Mar 2009, at 18:21, Richard Stewart wrote: Help please, whenever I quit Safari ( 3.2.1 ) on my Macbook running Leopard 10.5.6, it hangs for 10-15 secs then as it goes an 'unexpected quit' notice appears. I've reported this to Apple more than once and now click 'ignore'. Can anyone point me at the correct procedure to eliminate this annoyance? Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 20:02:05 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:02:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: References: <22335900-1191-46C9-B310-7C10B0309A4B@f2s.com> Message-ID: <996365C7-C325-404A-A7BC-BB60500EA696@f2s.com> Well I could forward, David, but I don't want to give you my problem! - just searched for it, and I have found about 40 of them stretching back to about March last year, but they're not in any mailbox. Very weird. I wonder if it's a genuine RSS feed, and something that crept in with the last update to Mail - I don't remember subscribing to anything of this name, but I am getting old .... Robbie On 27 Mar 2009, at 16:31, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear Robbie, Hasn't appeared here yet! Best wishes, David > This morning I've received in one of my mailboxes, an email with no > headers of any kind which looks like a screen grab of an RSS feed, > headed "Apple Hot News" on a blue banner, with the text > > "In his review of the new AirPort Express, Dan Frakes (macworld.com) > awards four mice (out of five) to the base station that's "compact > enough?to fit in a laptop bag and designed to plug directly into an > electrical outlet" while providing a "full-featured 802.11 a/b/g/n > wireless access point." He calls it "the choice to make if you're > looking to extend your existing Apple-branded network wirelessly or > to wired devices, to send your computer's audio to a remote stereo > system, or to use a Base Station in more than one location." > > This is followed by an un-named "Read More" link. > > This mailbox is hardly 2 weeks old, created for Freecycle posts due > to the spam I was getting on the original, much of which was being > sent by my own address to itself - obviously the product of an > infected Windows machine using harvested addresses. Doesn't seem to > take long for them to latch on to groups, especially those hosted by > Yahoo! > > I've never seen anything like it before, and while it looks innocent > enough, I've trashed it. > > Can anyone enlighten me? > > Robbie_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 20:08:29 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:08:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: References: <22335900-1191-46C9-B310-7C10B0309A4B@f2s.com> Message-ID: <29FE816C-632B-48F2-AC0A-0E9E603A87ED@f2s.com> Mystery solved - it's an RSS from some mob called Apple! ..... and I've got 327 of them - some days there are 3 or 4. Don't understand, though, why one odd one suddenly turned up today in my Freecycle mailbox. Robbie Well I could forward, David, but I don't want to give you my problem! - just searched for it, and I have found about 40 of them stretching back to about March last year, but they're not in any mailbox. Very weird. I wonder if it's a genuine RSS feed, and something that crept in with the last update to Mail - I don't remember subscribing to anything of this name, but I am getting old .... Robbie On 27 Mar 2009, at 16:31, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear Robbie, Hasn't appeared here yet! Best wishes, David > This morning I've received in one of my mailboxes, an email with no > headers of any kind which looks like a screen grab of an RSS feed, > headed "Apple Hot News" on a blue banner, with the text > > "In his review of the new AirPort Express, Dan Frakes (macworld.com) > awards four mice (out of five) to the base station that's "compact > enough?to fit in a laptop bag and designed to plug directly into an > electrical outlet" while providing a "full-featured 802.11 a/b/g/n > wireless access point." He calls it "the choice to make if you're > looking to extend your existing Apple-branded network wirelessly or > to wired devices, to send your computer's audio to a remote stereo > system, or to use a Base Station in more than one location." > > This is followed by an un-named "Read More" link. > > This mailbox is hardly 2 weeks old, created for Freecycle posts due > to the spam I was getting on the original, much of which was being > sent by my own address to itself - obviously the product of an > infected Windows machine using harvested addresses. Doesn't seem to > take long for them to latch on to groups, especially those hosted by > Yahoo! > > I've never seen anything like it before, and while it looks innocent > enough, I've trashed it. > > Can anyone enlighten me? > > Robbie_______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 27 20:17:36 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:17:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari Message-ID: <43484293-9EE8-418F-8D64-FF9CFEEDD0E9@gmail.com> Thanks for the suggestion Robbie, I control my mothers bank a/c and it doesn't do beta versions, so I'm still stuck with the annoyance Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 20:24:06 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:24:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari In-Reply-To: <43484293-9EE8-418F-8D64-FF9CFEEDD0E9@gmail.com> References: <43484293-9EE8-418F-8D64-FF9CFEEDD0E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Firefox? :-) On 27 Mar 2009, at 20:17, Richard Stewart wrote: Thanks for the suggestion Robbie, I control my mothers bank a/c and it doesn't do beta versions, so I'm still stuck with the annoyance Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 27 20:54:26 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:54:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers Message-ID: <679C072B-00F7-4264-9823-D7F929681C15@gmail.com> Does anyone know of a Keyboard shortcut that will send a bolt of electricity out of the keyboard to any Nmugger who fails to trim his (or her) postings before sending them off. We don't need the entire history of a thread every time you post: just the specific point you are responding to in your latest posting. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Mar 27 21:25:30 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:25:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers Message-ID: Stefan Ow that lightning bolt hurt :) Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers From: stefan youngs Date: 27/03/2009 20:54 Does anyone know of a Keyboard shortcut that will send a bolt of electricity out of the keyboard to any Nmugger who fails to trim his (or her) postings before sending them off. We don't need the entire history of a thread every time you post: just the specific point you are responding to in your latest posting. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Fri Mar 27 22:43:48 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:43:48 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox/Safari Message-ID: <9243C3A1-FB4B-4FCF-8212-C320A94A4693@gmail.com> Thanks for your continued interest but at the risk of being boring, Firefox wont fix Safari. Your suggestions are excellent but they ain't a fix! Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Fri Mar 27 22:56:06 2009 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:56:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] contact Message-ID: David Miller are you out there? I wrote recently. Did I use the wrong email address? Your 7100 awaits! Ruth From macman at f2s.com Fri Mar 27 23:39:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:39:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox/Safari In-Reply-To: <9243C3A1-FB4B-4FCF-8212-C320A94A4693@gmail.com> References: <9243C3A1-FB4B-4FCF-8212-C320A94A4693@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32116E3E-F00F-4922-BEFB-F5498978F238@f2s.com> Maybe just keep sending in reports rather than ignoring: if everyone stops reporting, they'll think the problem has gone away! On 27 Mar 2009, at 22:43, Richard Stewart wrote: Thanks for your continued interest but at the risk of being boring, Firefox wont fix Safari. Your suggestions are excellent but they ain't a fix! Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Sat Mar 28 00:07:43 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:07:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox/SAfari Message-ID: <43001C4E-389F-4152-A142-98FEA03854AB@gmail.com> Robbie, I thank you for your patience,I'll resume reporting and I'll close the discussion as of now. I'll also do what I usually do at times like this-hope it goes away without finding out what caused it. Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Mar 28 08:58:07 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:58:07 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari event In-Reply-To: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> References: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65AC857F-51AC-4243-8269-ED30E6E08FD1@durrant.co.uk> Try opening Safari and then closing it again, without doing anything else. Does it crash? If it does, something's corrupt somewhere, or you've got some buggy add-on installed. An archive and install of the System software should fix things. Paul On 27 Mar 2009, at 18:21, Richard Stewart wrote: > Help please, whenever I quit Safari ( 3.2.1 ) on my Macbook running > Leopard 10.5.6, it hangs for 10-15 secs then as it goes an > 'unexpected quit' notice appears. I've reported this to Apple more > than once and now click 'ignore'. Can anyone point me at the correct > procedure to eliminate this annoyance? From munkt0n at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 09:30:30 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:30:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] re cool short cut HELP PLease In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it sounds like you're pressing the 'fn' key, or if you're not using the F1, F2 etc keys as standard (which I think is the default on Macbooks) then you should be pressing the 'fn' key - how confusing! try pressing fn + ctrl + alt + apple + F8 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Michele Hurst wrote: > Yes well tried it and it worked but now it wont undo. tried pressing same > keys again and a brightness symbol with ?a minus sign in a circle comes up. > What to do??????? > Michele > Michele Hurst > michelehurst at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From ajf at afco.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 28 09:48:45 2009 From: ajf at afco.demon.co.uk (Alan Fry) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:48:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Safari event In-Reply-To: <65AC857F-51AC-4243-8269-ED30E6E08FD1@durrant.co.uk> References: <55065F95-84D1-43D9-A6C4-C307E1F4BA1C@gmail.com> <65AC857F-51AC-4243-8269-ED30E6E08FD1@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <185A06A0-3584-456C-A8E6-CB77C090591E@afco.demon.co.uk> Would it help I wonder to remove the preferences file ~/Library/ Preferences/com.apple.Safari.plist? You could safely put the file on the Desktop, restart Safari and see what happens. Safari will then write a new '.plist'. If that cures the problem all well and good, but you will have to redo any special settings you might have made to Safari. If it doesn't resolve the problem you could throw the new '.plist' away and put the old one back where it was. Alan Fry On 28 Mar 2009, at 08:58, Paul Durrant wrote: > Try opening Safari and then closing it again, without doing anything > else. Does it crash? > > If it does, something's corrupt somewhere, or you've got some buggy > add-on installed. An archive and install of the System software > should fix things. > > On 27 Mar 2009, at 18:21, Richard Stewart wrote: > >> Help please, whenever I quit Safari ( 3.2.1 ) on my Macbook running >> Leopard 10.5.6, it hangs for 10-15 secs then as it goes an >> 'unexpected quit' notice appears. I've reported this to Apple more >> than once and now click 'ignore'. Can anyone point me at the >> correct procedure to eliminate this annoyance? From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 28 11:38:52 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:38:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <20090328093040.02B32849336@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090328093040.02B32849336@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> Responding to nmug emails is unfortunately not a one click affair. First highlight the phrase you are referring to and click "reply". Second return to the nmug email and copy the subject and enter it in the Subject box of your reply, following "Re:". Thirdly return to the nmug email again and copy the name of the sender of that particular message and enter it in your reply instead of "nmug- request at durrant.co.uk", which follows the date and time the nmug message was sent. Finally write your own message. Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which are acceptable. What do others think? Jim. ==================================== On 28 Mar 2009, at 09:30, stefan youngs wrote: > We don't need the entire > history of a thread every time you post: just the specific point you > are responding to in your latest posting. From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sat Mar 28 11:59:37 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:59:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> References: <20090328093040.02B32849336@mail.durrant.co.uk> <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Dear Jim, Strange, with Eudora I just click Apple/R and up comes the whole text in an email addressed to the right place, the text is already highlighted so one could just type a reply and thus delete the previous message. Alternatively one can just delete the unwanted section, as I've done with this one. David > >Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which >are acceptable. What do others think? -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net Sat Mar 28 12:05:45 2009 From: Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net (Jeremy Webb) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:05:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> References: <20090328093040.02B32849336@mail.durrant.co.uk> <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: I think this way is just fine Jim - it's only a few teeny kb after all - as long as it's just a few previous posts involved. I think other ways are also OK. It may depend on which email app you use. I think we should all relax a little. I'd personally prefer a keyboard shortcut which zapped any self- appointed internet posting wardens. Jeremy Webb Jeremywebb.photo at virgin.net On 28 Mar 2009, at 11:38, DJR Massy wrote: > Responding to nmug emails is unfortunately not a one click affair. > First highlight the phrase you are referring to and click "reply". > Second return to the nmug email and copy the subject and enter it > in the Subject box of your reply, following "Re:". Thirdly return > to the nmug email again and copy the name of the sender of that > particular message and enter it in your reply instead of "nmug- > request at durrant.co.uk", which follows the date and time the nmug > message was sent. Finally write your own message. > > Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which > are acceptable. What do others think? > > Jim. > ==================================== > On 28 Mar 2009, at 09:30, stefan youngs wrote: > >> We don't need the entire >> history of a thread every time you post: just the specific point you >> are responding to in your latest posting. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sat Mar 28 12:20:01 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:20:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <20090328120003.D0EC88495C3@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090328120003.D0EC88495C3@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: > From: DJR Massy > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers > > Responding to nmug emails is unfortunately not a one click affair. > First highlight the phrase you are referring to and click "reply". > Second return to the nmug email and copy the subject and enter it in > the Subject box of your reply, following "Re:". Thirdly return to > the nmug email again and copy the name of the sender of that > particular message and enter it in your reply instead of "nmug- > request at durrant.co.uk", which follows the date and time the nmug > message was sent. Finally write your own message. > > Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which > are acceptable. What do others think? You ask an interesting question. I hadn't even realized in Mail you could highlight the part you want to respond to and then hit the Reply button. Cool! Thanks. If you do this it's then just a case of putting a new subject line it to replace the generic Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 67 with something more specific and you're good to go. This is, in fact, the only bit missing from an ideal solution. Few things in life are as simple as we would like. It's possible someone has an AppleScript that does what you want.. there are tens of thousands of scripts out there. A pair of rubber kitchen gloves goes to the clever clogs who finds one first (my bet is on Simon) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 28 12:33:27 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:33:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers Message-ID: Stefan Not me. I haven't delved into AppleScript for a few years. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers From: stefan youngs Date: 28/03/2009 12:20 > From: DJR Massy > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers > > Responding to nmug emails is unfortunately not a one click affair. > First highlight the phrase you are referring to and click "reply". > Second return to the nmug email and copy the subject and enter it in > the Subject box of your reply, following "Re:". Thirdly return to > the nmug email again and copy the name of the sender of that > particular message and enter it in your reply instead of "nmug- > request at durrant.co.uk", which follows the date and time the nmug > message was sent. Finally write your own message. > > Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which > are acceptable. What do others think? You ask an interesting question. I hadn't even realized in Mail you could highlight the part you want to respond to and then hit the Reply button. Cool! Thanks. If you do this it's then just a case of putting a new subject line it to replace the generic Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 62, Issue 67 with something more specific and you're good to go. This is, in fact, the only bit missing from an ideal solution. Few things in life are as simple as we would like. It's possible someone has an AppleScript that does what you want.. there are tens of thousands of scripts out there. A pair of rubber kitchen gloves goes to the clever clogs who finds one first (my bet is on Simon) _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 28 12:40:31 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:40:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <20090328120003.D0EC88495C3@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20090328120003.D0EC88495C3@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear David, Thanks for this comment. Yes, Safari also responds to Apple/R. That makes for less to & fro. Then copy and paste the title. I feel that copying the name of the sender is also helpful to readers, so I do that. Then highlight and delete the rest before sending. OK, fine. Jim. ======================================== On 28 Mar 2009, at 12:00, David Van Edwards wrote: > Strange, with Eudora I just click Apple/R and up comes the whole text > in an email addressed to the right place, the text is already > highlighted so one could just type a reply and thus delete the > previous message. Alternatively one can just delete the unwanted > section, as I've done with this one. From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Mar 28 13:57:54 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:57:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Shortcut To Whack Forgetful Nmuggers In-Reply-To: <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> References: <20090328093040.02B32849336@mail.durrant.co.uk> <45CD8035-48C2-40BF-AEB4-45AA67AE1158@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <3B5F5DD5-EADB-467F-9D3F-314C1693276A@durrant.co.uk> If you switch from digest mode to individual emails, you won't have to copy/paste the subject line, or the poster's name. Just set a filter to put all the NMUG emails into one folder, and the volume won't be a problem. Paul On 28 Mar 2009, at 11:38, DJR Massy wrote: > Perhaps I'm wrong here and there are quicker ways to respond which > are acceptable. What do others think? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Mar 28 18:05:04 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 28 Mar 2009 18:05:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 512MB For TiBook Message-ID: Hi I am looking for a 512MB stick of PC133 SDRAM for my PowerBook G4 Titanium. I currently have 768MB of RAM and want to max it out to 1GB (by taking out the 256MB and replacing it with a 512MB). So does anyone have one they want to sell. It must work in my Mac. I have been looking around on eBay for RAM - and it is still quite expensive. For guaranteed Mac compatible ones you are looking about ?27. Are the TiBooks as fussy about RAM as the older G3 PowerBooks are? I know when I was looking for RAM for my Lombard and Pismo it needed to be 16 chip (8 on each side) and not 8 chip (4 on each side or all on one side). Is this the only thing to look for. I was hoping to pick up some non-Mac specific RAM at a bargain price - or at least cheaper than 'Mac' RAM. Do they have to be low-density sticks. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sat Mar 28 22:22:34 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:22:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iLife '09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi June, Apologies for my late response. I installed iLife 09 because I had changed my camcorder to a hard drive model and was unable to download my camcorder footage onto iMove 06. The programme has a number of very nice features that were not available on 06 but all in all I am not too happy with it. It is not nearly as simple or user-friendly as 06 is. I find it quite slow to open and I constantly get the dreaded "beachball" on the screen when I try and move clips too quickly, particularly when trying to move around the project window or when I move the slider from the bottom of the project towards the top or visa versa. It also crashes on occasion even though I have done all the necessary permissions etc. I have just downloaded software updates and hope that that will remedy some or all of the problems. I will persist with the programme as I have 2 hours of camcorder footage to edit and cut to less than and hour!! Phyll uses iPhoto 09 which also has some nice features but she misses some of the print functions in the old iPhoto (n-up to vary the print sizes. I don't know if this was helpful or not? Ed On 27 Mar 2009, at 07:21, June Perrett wrote: > I have Leopard on my computer and am thinking of installing iLife '09. > If you've already done so I'd like to know what you think of it. > Are the NEW versions of iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD and iWeb an > improvement? Are there any sections in the old iLife '08 that you > still prefer? > I'd be pleased to hear your comments. > Many thanks. > June > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 29 12:51:33 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:51:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] eMac Strip Down Message-ID: Hi. I am about to strip down my sons eMac and sell off the parts. It is a 1.25Ghz model with blown capacitors on the logic board. If anyone wants any parts before I eBay them let me know. It has a SuperDrive from a G4 iMac in it, 80GB 7200RPM hard drive and either 1GB or 1.5GB of DDR RAM. Let me know. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sun Mar 29 18:37:27 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:37:27 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 Message-ID: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> Hi everyone As mentioned yesterday my iMovie is really slow, and since we upgraded to 8.01 last night it has constantly had the spinning beach ball, has been impossible to move clips or do anything in the way of editing before the whole thing goes hay wire. Last night whilst struggling to use the programme after the upgrade, the dock disappeared, finder disappeared, as did the toolbar. As it was impossible to close down or restart computer, we had to switch off at the mains. I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with only Movie open. While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed except Mail. A few questions: 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the moment). 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if it is a complicated job? 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have done all the necessary housekeeping etc. Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. Thanks Ed From robharrington at mac.com Mon Mar 30 09:47:26 2009 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:47:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: <72E094E8-37AC-4802-B9D8-D07C15B924DB@mac.com> Morning- Rob Harrington here - what are you doing indoors? Anyway I enclose below - hope it helps. Apple says min requirements for HI-DEF work is 256 Mb ram so surely you don't need to go down the increase route.. In the wider context how does all this upgrading become an improvement? RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob movienono - Mar 27, 2006 - 6:31 am I've just bought a Lacie tripple interface 400 gb external harddisc. When it is connected ,with firewire 400,together with my Canon MV700 I cant start iMovie 6. When I disconnect te camera it starts without a problem. When I then connect the camera imovie doesn't see the camera.It says no camera connected. When I disconnect the external harddisc iMovie will see the camera. Is there a sollution for this,or do I need another harddisc I don'y have a firewire 800 connection on my Mac. ? Make sure that your FW hard drive and your Canon are connected to separate FW ports on your Macintosh. This is a well-known problem, so that should fix it. Alternatively, you could use the USb 2.0 connection for your hard drive and the FW connection for your camera. HTH and please let us know what happens. Thanks. imovienono - Mar 28, 2006 - 7:56 am ? Thanks. They both where connected to seperate FW ports,this makes no difference.Using the USb2.0 connection does,so thanks for that. ? > > As mentioned yesterday my iMovie is really slow, and since we upgraded > to 8.01 last night it has constantly had the spinning beach ball, has > been impossible to move clips or do anything in the way of editing > before the whole thing goes hay wire. Last night whilst struggling to > use the programme after the upgrade, the dock disappeared, finder > disappeared, as did the toolbar. As it was impossible to close down or > restart computer, we had to switch off at the mains. > > I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down > all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with > only Movie open. > > While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed > except Mail. > > A few questions: > 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the > moment). > 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? > 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 > Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? > 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if > it is a complicated job? > 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have > done all the necessary housekeeping etc. > > Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. > > Thanks > > Ed > > Thanks > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Mar 30 09:53:40 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:53:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> References: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: <98CFFF39-5103-4357-B0BB-1E082C8A8AA1@durrant.co.uk> Yes, I'd try upgrading the memory. It sounds like you don't have enough for iMovie and the movie clips you're editing. You need 2x2GB PC2-5300 so-dimms, non-bufferred, non-ECC. This will cost about ?40 + postage from Crucial http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=iMac%202.4GHz%20Intel%20Core%202%20Duo%20%2820-inch%20-%20667MHz%29 It might be possible to find it cheaper on eBay, but not a lot, at least, not in the UK e.g. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ130296671152 PCWorld have it, but at nearly twice as much at ?64.56 (if you order on the web and collect at store). http://www.pcworld.co.uk:80/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?page=Product&sku=375557 Fitting the memory's pretty easy - there's a couple of screws under the iMac which release a small panel covering the memory slots. Paul On 29 Mar 2009, at 18:37, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down > all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with > only Movie open. > > While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed > except Mail. > > A few questions: > 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the > moment). > 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? > 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 > Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? > 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if > it is a complicated job? > 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have > done all the necessary housekeeping etc. > > Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. > > Thanks > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Mar 30 09:57:40 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:57:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: <72E094E8-37AC-4802-B9D8-D07C15B924DB@mac.com> References: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> <72E094E8-37AC-4802-B9D8-D07C15B924DB@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rob, Not sure if this really helps - we never had problems with iMovie 6 - only encountered these problems when we upgraded to iMovie 8 in order to be able to download the the camcorder footage from a HD camcorder (Sony) via USB connection. The problems is the editing and when iMovie is open the memory runs down to almost Zero. Thanks anyway. Ed > > Anyway I enclose below - hope it helps. > Apple says min requirements for HI-DEF work is 256 Mb ram so surely > you don't need to go down the increase route.. > In the wider context how does all this upgrading become an > improvement? > > RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob > > > movienono - Mar 27, 2006 - 6:31 am > > > I've just bought a Lacie tripple interface 400 gb external harddisc. > When it is connected ,with firewire 400,together with my Canon MV700 > I cant start iMovie 6. > When I disconnect te camera it starts without a problem. > > When I then connect the camera imovie doesn't see the camera.It says > no camera connected. > When I disconnect the external harddisc iMovie will see the camera. > Is there a sollution for this,or do I need another harddisc > > I don'y have a firewire 800 connection on my Mac. > ? > > Make sure that your FW hard drive and your Canon are connected to > separate FW ports on your Macintosh. This is a well-known problem, so > that should fix it. Alternatively, you could use the USb 2.0 > connection for your hard drive and the FW connection for your camera. > > HTH and please let us know what happens. Thanks. > imovienono - Mar 28, 2006 - 7:56 am > > ? > Thanks. > They both where connected to seperate FW ports,this makes no > difference.Using the USb2.0 connection does,so thanks for that. > > > > ? >> >> >> While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed >> except Mail. >> >> A few questions: >> 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the >> moment). >> 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? >> 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 >> Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? >> 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if >> it is a complicated job? >> 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have >> done all the necessary housekeeping etc. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ed >> >> From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Mar 30 10:00:41 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:00:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: <98CFFF39-5103-4357-B0BB-1E082C8A8AA1@durrant.co.uk> References: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> <98CFFF39-5103-4357-B0BB-1E082C8A8AA1@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Paul, We have just ordered 2 x 2GB 200-pin SODIMM from Curcial, also downloaded installation instructions from Apple - looks quite simple. Hope this will solve the problems? Ed On 30 Mar 2009, at 09:53, Paul Durrant wrote: > Yes, I'd try upgrading the memory. It sounds like you don't have > enough for iMovie and the movie clips you're editing. > > You need 2x2GB PC2-5300 so-dimms, non-bufferred, non-ECC. > > > Paul > > On 29 Mar 2009, at 18:37, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > >> I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down >> all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with >> only Movie open. >> >> While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed >> except Mail. >> >> A few questions: >> 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the >> moment). >> 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? >> 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 >> Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? >> 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if >> it is a complicated job? >> 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have >> done all the necessary housekeeping etc. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From brian at clearlight.uk.net Mon Mar 30 10:11:21 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:11:21 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> Message-ID: While Mac OSX likes there to be more memory than less I don't believe that this is the cause or neccessity of your current problem. If you decided to add ram at any time then I would say that as long as you pay reasonable attention to instructions and risk a reasonable degree of confidence in the extended instructions being correct and followable by ordinary folk - then you'll be fine. Apart from care in handling and static awareness - it is a matter of sensitively aligning and then pushing into the slot. Knowing how much force to exert is the thing that at first seems scary. But as long as you don't force against the grain and are reasonably proportionate and self monitoring as you go then it is indeed simple and safe. I wonder if something particular to iMovie is needing correction. I'm not that familiar with it. One way is to locate and temporarily remove a program's preference file when it is not running and then see if the new default one is trouble free. Reverse the process while not running to restore former preferences. Another common problem is if incompatible add ons or plug ins are installed. Some programs have a database that can be rebuilt - such as iPhoto. You can delete the application and reinstall using Pacifist - or just re run the iLife installer. If the problem is wider than iMovie then it is likely either to be in the User account or the system. If problems persist in a test user account then I would recommend that rather than chase possible culprits and engage endless detective mentality - you reinstall the system under the archive and install. This is fairly straightforward and puts an entirely fresh system in place and puts the old one in 'Previous Systems'. Its always lengthy and perhaps risky trying to troubleshoot remotely and blind - but there's some thought to consider. all the best Brian Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn said recently: > Hi everyone > > As mentioned yesterday my iMovie is really slow, and since we upgraded > to 8.01 last night it has constantly had the spinning beach ball, has > been impossible to move clips or do anything in the way of editing > before the whole thing goes hay wire. Last night whilst struggling to > use the programme after the upgrade, the dock disappeared, finder > disappeared, as did the toolbar. As it was impossible to close down or > restart computer, we had to switch off at the mains. > > I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down > all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with > only Movie open. > > While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed > except Mail. > > A few questions: > 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the moment). > 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? > 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 > Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? > 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if > it is a complicated job? > 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have > done all the necessary housekeeping etc. > > Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. > > Thanks > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From robharrington at mac.com Mon Mar 30 10:29:04 2009 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:29:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: References: <82E927CD-EC55-42B4-B3F5-A59CCE0B32E5@mendelsohn.me.uk> <72E094E8-37AC-4802-B9D8-D07C15B924DB@mac.com> Message-ID: <0FEE7B8D-7821-4795-92EE-72D6FA4486D5@mac.com> Sorry about that Ed- but I still don't think it is a lack of memory problem. Now that you have ordered the extra anyway be aware that I found the downloaded instructions to fit some in my Imac were not exactly configured to my machine. I bought a static wrist strap ( and had to go out and get a special screwdriver as well). Good luck. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob On 30 Mar 2009, at 09:57, Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn wrote: > Thanks Rob, > > Not sure if this really helps - we never had problems with iMovie 6 - > only encountered these problems when we upgraded to iMovie 8 in order > to be able to download the the camcorder footage from a HD camcorder > (Sony) via USB connection. The problems is the editing and when iMovie > is open the memory runs down to almost Zero. > > Thanks anyway. > > Ed > From dan_tombs at hotmail.com Mon Mar 30 13:32:27 2009 From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:32:27 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple PowerBook G4 15" For Sale Message-ID: Hi Folks, Thought i'd offer this to you good people first before i dance with destiny on eBay. I've recently upgraded to one of the new MacBook Pro's in order to start working with HD video on the go, sadly my G4 just didn't cut it for that. But, it is an excellent machine and dealt with everything else without flinching. It is a 2004 machine and was the maximum spec available at the time - which cost nearly ?3000!!! 15.2" 1280 x 854 max resolutionG4 1.5 Ghz Processor 80 GB Hard Disc2GB Ram (Installed by Apple at time of purchase)ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Graphics Card DVD/CD Superdrive Airport Extreme 802.11b/gBluetooth2 x USBFW 400 !!!!FW 800DVI out S Video Out All fully boxed with original install discs and documents I purchased a new Power Supply (official Apple) last year when the original one burnt out - youch! i have the box for the new one and still the old dead one if anyone wants it ?? I have an extra battery for the machine each still gives 1hr1/2 to 2hrs operation depending on what your working on (i have the spare battery box as well) I have the DVI to VGA adaptor as well as the S -Video to Composite video adaptor with the plastic end caps (for all you collectors!) - analogue video straight out of a Mac (them were the days!!) I will zap the machine and fully zero erase the HD and install a clean copy of OSX 10.4.11 and iLife (the mac shipped with 10.3 but i have a spare upgrade disc for 10.4 which i'll include)I have had this machine running Leopard - but needed to use software that only ran under Tiger so it had to come off. I would include Leopard if i had a copy - but sadly i only have the Intel version. All in all its is a totally classic machine still up there for most applications, its never let me down and i'd be sad to see it go, but i can't justify two macs and would like to get an external display for the MacBook. It is in great condition, only a few scuffs and scratches as you would expect. No dead pixels or marks on the screen, the only sign of wear is around the kensington lock port which has been nibbled by some over zealous locks. Ok, so it seems like these machines in this kind of condition are going for about ?400 on eBay - but if anyone is interested in this machine drop me a line off list and make me an offer, i can send snaps to anyone who's interested. Also happy to arrange delivery in Norwich area. If i don't get any interest i'll list in on eBay next Monday (06/04/09) Thanks All! Dan _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage ? Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/ From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Mon Mar 30 13:48:55 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:48:55 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <147788A5-B783-4118-A783-F4115F14678E@mendelsohn.me.uk> Thanks for all this helpful info Brian. We have ordered the extra RAM which we need anyway. If this doesn't rectify the iMovie problems we will definitely follow the steps you recommend. Will let you know what happens.. Regards Ed On 30 Mar 2009, at 10:11, Brian Steere wrote: > > > I wonder if something particular to iMovie is needing correction. > I'm not that familiar with it. > One way is to locate and temporarily remove a program's preference > file when > it is not running and then see if the new default one is trouble free. > Reverse the process while not running to restore former preferences. > Another common problem is if incompatible add ons or plug ins are > installed. > Some programs have a database that can be rebuilt - such as iPhoto. > You can delete the application and reinstall using Pacifist - or > just re run > the iLife installer. > > If the problem is wider than iMovie then it is likely either to be > in the > User account or the system. If problems persist in a test user > account then > I would recommend that rather than chase possible culprits and engage > endless detective mentality - you reinstall the system under the > archive and > install. > This is fairly straightforward and puts an entirely fresh system in > place > and puts the old one in 'Previous Systems'. > > Its always lengthy and perhaps risky trying to troubleshoot remotely > and > blind - but there's some thought to consider. > > all the best > Brian > > Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn said recently: > >> Hi everyone >> >> As mentioned yesterday my iMovie is really slow, and since we >> upgraded >> to 8.01 last night it has constantly had the spinning beach ball, has >> been impossible to move clips or do anything in the way of editing >> before the whole thing goes hay wire. Last night whilst struggling to >> use the programme after the upgrade, the dock disappeared, finder >> disappeared, as did the toolbar. As it was impossible to close down >> or >> restart computer, we had to switch off at the mains. >> >> >> While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed >> >> ailman/listinfo/nmug > From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Mar 30 13:50:32 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:50:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale Message-ID: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> Similarly to Dan, I have a couple of items I thought I'd offer to you guys before listing on Ebay. Both are boxed, in near mint condition and come with all of the parts that came in the box. Apple Universal Dock - Works with iPod video, iPod classic, iPhone (original and 3G with included adaptor), iPod touch and iPod Nano - ?18 Apple Airport Express Base station (with 802.11n and AirTunes) - can be used to wirelessly share a printer, add wireless to a wired network, extend a wireless network and play music through a set of speakers from iTunes - ?60 Any offers or questions? Thanks, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From fowler.j at me.com Mon Mar 30 13:58:08 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:58:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> Don't want to sound awkward, but the dock sells brand new at ?20 and the express base station for ?65. Just think you will struggle to sell them at those prices. I would be interested in the express, but wouldn't pay more than ?40. Jon F Apple Solutions Consultant Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2009, at 13:50, David Reynolds wrote: > Similarly to Dan, I have a couple of items I thought I'd offer to you > guys before listing on Ebay. > > Both are boxed, in near mint condition and come with all of the parts > that came in the box. > > Apple Universal Dock - Works with iPod video, iPod classic, iPhone > (original and 3G with included adaptor), iPod touch and iPod Nano - > ?18 > > Apple Airport Express Base station (with 802.11n and AirTunes) - can > be used to wirelessly share a printer, add wireless to a wired > network, extend a wireless network and play music through a set of > speakers from iTunes - ?60 > > Any offers or questions? > > Thanks, > > David > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 30 14:01:12 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 30 Mar 2009 14:01:12 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> Message-ID: Jon Are the guy who works for - sorry in - PCWorld? Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 30 2009, Jon Fowler wrote: Don't want to sound awkward, but the dock sells brand new at ??20 and the express base station for ??65. Just think you will struggle to sell them at those prices. I would be interested in the express, but wouldn't pay more than ??40. Jon F Apple Solutions Consultant Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2009, at 13:50, David Reynolds wrote: > Similarly to Dan, I have a couple of items I thought I'd offer to you > guys before listing on Ebay. > > Both are boxed, in near mint condition and come with all of the parts > that came in the box. > > Apple Universal Dock - Works with iPod video, iPod classic, iPhone > (original and 3G with included adaptor), iPod touch and iPod Nano - > ??18 > > Apple Airport Express Base station (with 802.11n and AirTunes) - can > be used to wirelessly share a printer, add wireless to a wired > network, extend a wireless network and play music through a set of > speakers from iTunes - ??60 > > Any offers or questions? > > Thanks, > > David > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Mar 30 14:03:12 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:03:12 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> Message-ID: <375992370903300603s27f1ded7oddf3d8c601200825@mail.gmail.com> Jon, 2009/3/30 Jon Fowler : > Don't want to sound awkward, but the dock sells brand new at ?20 and > the express base station for ?65. > Just think you will struggle to sell them at those prices. I would be > interested in the express, but wouldn't pay more than ?40. I took the prices from the UK Apple store website: Airport Express Base station is ?79 and the Universal Dock is ?28 (plus I am giving the 3G dock adaptors along with, which is another ?6) so I don't think the prices are too unreasonable. I am open to offers, but ?40 is a bit low from the Airport Express. Thanks, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From fowler.j at me.com Mon Mar 30 14:15:38 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:15:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> Message-ID: <7FE639F4-ED30-418C-8D80-5FE52D82ED95@me.com> Yes I am. Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:01, Simon Royal wrote: > Jon > > Are the guy who works for - sorry in - PCWorld? > > Simon > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > On Mar 30 2009, Jon Fowler wrote: > > Don't want to sound awkward, but the dock sells brand new at ??20 a > nd > the express base station for ??65. > Just think you will struggle to sell them at those prices. I would be > interested in the express, but wouldn't pay more than ??40. > > Jon F > Apple Solutions Consultant > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 30 Mar 2009, at 13:50, David Reynolds > wrote: > >> Similarly to Dan, I have a couple of items I thought I'd offer to you >> guys before listing on Ebay. >> >> Both are boxed, in near mint condition and come with all of the parts >> that came in the box. >> >> Apple Universal Dock - Works with iPod video, iPod classic, iPhone >> (original and 3G with included adaptor), iPod touch and iPod Nano - >> ??18 >> >> Apple Airport Express Base station (with 802.11n and AirTunes) - can >> be used to wirelessly share a printer, add wireless to a wired >> network, extend a wireless network and play music through a set of >> speakers from iTunes - ??60 >> >> Any offers or questions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at me.com Mon Mar 30 14:17:14 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:17:14 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: <375992370903300603s27f1ded7oddf3d8c601200825@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> <375992370903300603s27f1ded7oddf3d8c601200825@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well I have the airport express in store for ?63.62. The dock may be slightly different as you rightly say, but I'm sure the airport express is a tad expensive. Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:03, David Reynolds wrote: > Jon, > > 2009/3/30 Jon Fowler : >> Don't want to sound awkward, but the dock sells brand new at ?20 and >> the express base station for ?65. >> Just think you will struggle to sell them at those prices. I would be >> interested in the express, but wouldn't pay more than ?40. > > I took the prices from the UK Apple store website: > > Airport Express Base station is ?79 and the Universal Dock is ?28 > (plus I am giving the 3G dock adaptors along with, which is another > ?6) so I don't think the prices are too unreasonable. I am open to > offers, but ?40 is a bit low from the Airport Express. > > Thanks, > > David > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Mar 30 14:20:44 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:20:44 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> <375992370903300603s27f1ded7oddf3d8c601200825@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <375992370903300620y7b24132ak73d8b339ded6a185@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/30 Jon Fowler : > Well I have the airport express in store for ?63.62. The dock may be > slightly different as you rightly say, but I'm sure the airport > express is a tad expensive. Are you sure it is the same model as this: http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB321B/A?mco=MzE2OTkyOA ? -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From fowler.j at me.com Mon Mar 30 14:58:57 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:58:57 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] For sale In-Reply-To: <375992370903300620y7b24132ak73d8b339ded6a185@mail.gmail.com> References: <375992370903300550l5b272759r7f9626c56babe20b@mail.gmail.com> <27C9C610-6056-4778-A25F-349DEC6C6639@me.com> <375992370903300603s27f1ded7oddf3d8c601200825@mail.gmail.com> <375992370903300620y7b24132ak73d8b339ded6a185@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7FCF4E29-41CD-4A80-B489-B1B10EE0D506@me.com> Yes it is Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:20, David Reynolds wrote: > 2009/3/30 Jon Fowler : >> Well I have the airport express in store for ?63.62. The dock may be >> slightly different as you rightly say, but I'm sure the airport >> express is a tad expensive. > > Are you sure it is the same model as this: > http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB321B/A?mco=MzE2OTkyOA ? > > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Mar 30 15:18:52 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:18:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Automatic iSync Message-ID: Hi. I use iSync to sync the contacts and calendar entries on my PowerBook and Nokia E71 which works amazingly well. However, I have to do it manually. Is there a way of having it auto syncronise every 24 hours or so. Simon --- visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk or Skype me at 'Simon-Royal' (sent using Nokia E71) From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Mon Mar 30 18:16:32 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:16:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] G4 for Sale? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jon, Looking at completed sales on eBay these cards are going for between ?25 & ?48. Average seems to be ?30-?35 I'd be interested in ?35. Thoughts? Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 25 Mar 2009, at 13:47, Jon Fowler wrote: > Hi Stephen > > I would be interested in the airport card definately if you could > give me a price. > Also I may be interested in the G4 but will contact u at a later > date if it still available. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 25 Mar 2009, at 07:04, Steven Jefferson > wrote: > >> Having acquired a new 2.26 * core Mac Pro last week I'm thinking >> about selling my old Graphite G4 450 Mhz PowerMac >> >> Bought from new in February 2000! >> >> Currently running as a file server connected to my main mac via >> Firewire or ethernet. Solid but slow compared to new kit but more >> than adequate for light work. >> >> Running latest build of Leopard (No Core Image effects). I still >> have the original OS 9 Install disk as well. >> >> 1.5GB RAM >> 1 x 20 GB Drive (original) >> 1 x 75 GB Drive >> 2 x 120 GB Drives >> 1 x 200 GB Drive >> >> Original 1st issue Airport Card (Apple) >> Sonnet Tempo ATA Card >> SCSI Card >> Pioneer DVR 109 CD/DVD writer >> >> I also have an old SCSI CD writer and a Polaroid 4000 DPI 35mm film >> scanner tucked away in the loft plus a few other bits. >> >> I would also be able to release 1 x 300 GB Maxtor SATA if anyone >> wants one >> >> Any body interested? I have some old copies of Toast and other >> software I might be able to bundle/clear out. Serious offers only >> please. If you want to discuss further please contact me off line. >> >> Having just shelled out some substantial money for the Mac Pro not >> able to consider gifting as I'd like to raise funds for a further >> HDD for it. >> >> I appreciate that after all this time this little lot won't raise >> oodles of dosh but I gather series 1 Apple Airport Cards are now >> quite rare so that in itself should be worth a little. >> >> >> Steven Jefferson >> steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 31 09:33:47 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:33:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow Message-ID: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? martin www.martinfryphotography.com From macman at f2s.com Tue Mar 31 10:26:19 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:26:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow In-Reply-To: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> References: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> Message-ID: <982481DE-6EB1-41FB-B770-CE1CCA18B6E9@f2s.com> No Problem here! Do you run regular speed tests? Only takes a minute .... This one keeps a chronological log: http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ Have you tried rebooting your router? Robbie On 31 Mar 2009, at 09:33, Martin Fry wrote: Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? martin www.martinfryphotography.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From jeremyknight at mac.com Tue Mar 31 10:57:20 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:57:20 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow In-Reply-To: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> References: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> Message-ID: <3980D6E7-FE72-45A5-AEEB-89FD337A06A0@mac.com> Hi Martin, Hope you're well I have found Ebay and online banking tediously slow this morning. It goes in fits and starts though. Thinking back its about as quick as dial-up at its worst. So easy to forget how things were even five years back. Best wishes jeremy On 31 Mar 2009, at 09:33, Martin Fry wrote: > Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? > > martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mghc.repps at virgin.net Tue Mar 31 11:19:16 2009 From: mghc.repps at virgin.net (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:19:16 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow In-Reply-To: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> References: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> Message-ID: Martin. I experienced a sudden dip in downloading speed yesterday. I have got the standard Virgin package, broadband only, for up to 1 Mb at ?14.67 a month. Of the eight broadbandspeedchecker tests I have run this year, seven of the download tests indicated 952Kbps every time. Yesterday's test showed 632Kbps. Other tests show that my line is capable of up to 6Mbps so I have never got my full money's worth out of Virgin. The eight upload tests this year have varied between 227 and 24Kbps. (yesterday 232Kbps). Best wishes. - Michael. 31.03.09. On 31 Mar 2009, at 09:33, Martin Fry wrote: > Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? > > martin > www.martinfryphotography.com From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 31 11:30:26 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:30:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow In-Reply-To: <3980D6E7-FE72-45A5-AEEB-89FD337A06A0@mac.com> References: <0c3d2c187f3dc3c73f576a4648cba531@virgin.net> <3980D6E7-FE72-45A5-AEEB-89FD337A06A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <64630bb5a995ca60104624a07e91632d@virgin.net> Hi Jeremy, long time no see, how you doing? > (I have found Ebay and online banking tediously slow this morning.) I thought so , glad it's not my computer! Martin www.martinfryphotography.com > It goes in fits and starts though. > Thinking back its about as quick as dial-up at its worst. > jeremy > On 31 Mar 2009, at 09:33, Martin Fry wrote: > >> Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? >> martin From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Mar 31 13:04:48 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:04:48 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Slow In-Reply-To: <982481DE-6EB1-41FB-B770-CE1CCA18B6E9@f2s.com> Message-ID: Last night there was something down on the net as lots of sites were extremely slow - but others were not. BBC news was. Google news wasnt. This applied to various sites I tried. ADSL Internet is always on like the power - until it's not - like a power cut. ;-) What with the prospect of bankruptcies and closures, mergers and hard cost cuttings, not to mention terrorist attacks on infrastructure, increasing network constriction due to cyberwar and cybercrime and random dredging of submarine cables - I wonder if our experience of the information super highway will be one of consistent continuity? Nothing on the news about last nights crawl that I could see, but the fact that it was only some sites mad me wonder if it was a particular server farm. Vast arrays of computers in racks in rooms or halls or warehouses all around the planet linked with satellite and optical and copper connection. all the best Brian Robbie Murray said recently: > No Problem here! > > Do you run regular speed tests? Only takes a minute .... > > This one keeps a chronological log: > > http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/ > > Have you tried rebooting your router? > > Robbie > > > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 09:33, Martin Fry wrote: > > Is it my computer or has the internet been very slow lately? > > martin > www.martinfryphotography.com > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From djpalmer93 at aim.com Tue Mar 31 16:10:52 2009 From: djpalmer93 at aim.com (Daniel Palmer) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! Message-ID: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Hi, Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ )! This will be very useful! Daniel From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 16:14:24 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:14:24 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: good news indeed, I can't see Chapelfield mentioned anywhere though... On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Daniel Palmer wrote: > Hi, > > Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich > Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ > )! This will be very useful! > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From minkennison at mac.com Tue Mar 31 16:16:51 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:16:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: Great news. Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is having an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long Min On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: > Hi, > > Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich > Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ > )! This will be very useful! > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From bazyoungs at mac.com Tue Mar 31 16:20:00 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:20:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Jon Message-ID: <26E0E16C-B272-42C4-A161-FD11F55D14D1@mac.com> For Jon Fowler Any ramifications for you in the new Apple Store? Baz If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that. From alanbarber at mac.com Tue Mar 31 16:30:46 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:30:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> Its not April 1st till tomorrow. Regards Alan On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:16, Min Kennison wrote: > Great news. > > Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is having > an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in > Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long > > Min > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ >> )! This will be very useful! >> >> Daniel >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at me.com Tue Mar 31 16:45:36 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:45:36 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> Message-ID: <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the managers job if so. Jon Apple Solutions Consultant Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Alan Barber wrote: > Its not April 1st till tomorrow. > > Regards > > Alan > > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:16, Min Kennison wrote: > >> Great news. >> >> Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is >> having >> an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in >> Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long >> >> Min >> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >>> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ >>> )! This will be very useful! >>> >>> Daniel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david.tillyer at googlemail.com Tue Mar 31 16:48:19 2009 From: david.tillyer at googlemail.com (David Tillyer) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:48:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> Message-ID: If you go through to apply for the job it specifically states 'Chaplefield' and there are more positions available than you could accomodate in PC World (I would imagine). Just been made redundant so might apply for a few of the roles. Dave 2009/3/31 Jon Fowler > I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but > there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the > managers job if so. > > Jon > Apple Solutions Consultant > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Alan Barber wrote: > > > Its not April 1st till tomorrow. > > > > Regards > > > > Alan > > > > > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:16, Min Kennison wrote: > > > >> Great news. > >> > >> Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is > >> having > >> an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in > >> Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long > >> > >> Min > >> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich > >>> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page ( > http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ > >>> )! This will be very useful! > >>> > >>> Daniel > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> NMUG mailing list > >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk > >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NMUG mailing list > >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk > >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NMUG mailing list > > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- David Tillyer Photography http://www.davidthephotographer.co.uk http://davidthephotographer.blogspot.com/ From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 16:48:37 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:48:37 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> Message-ID: I doubt if Apple would refer to a pokey section of PC World as a retail store. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jon Fowler wrote: > I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but > there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the > managers job if so. > > Jon > Apple Solutions Consultant From david.tillyer at googlemail.com Tue Mar 31 16:50:30 2009 From: david.tillyer at googlemail.com (David Tillyer) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:50:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> Message-ID: Oh Snap! 2009/3/31 Scott Matthews > I doubt if Apple would refer to a pokey section of PC World as a retail > store. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jon Fowler wrote: > > I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but > > there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the > > managers job if so. > > > > Jon > > Apple Solutions Consultant > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- David Tillyer Photography http://www.davidthephotographer.co.uk http://davidthephotographer.blogspot.com/ From email.news at mac.com Tue Mar 31 16:58:28 2009 From: email.news at mac.com (Andrew B) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:58:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <396A6389-1661-4005-B333-90FF83E4F1BC@mac.com> <366D35CC-3B2E-4FDD-A5B8-26FA28FD3F55@me.com> Message-ID: Definitely in Chapelfield. I've already applied :-) Regards, AndrewB On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:45, Jon Fowler wrote: > I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but > there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the > managers job if so. > > Jon > Apple Solutions Consultant > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Alan Barber wrote: > >> Its not April 1st till tomorrow. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >> >> >> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:16, Min Kennison wrote: >> >>> Great news. >>> >>> Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is >>> having >>> an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in >>> Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long >>> >>> Min >>> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >>>> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ >>>> )! This will be very useful! >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 31 17:43:38 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 31 Mar 2009 17:43:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: Hi Damn I wish I lived in Norwich still. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 31 2009, Andrew B wrote: Definitely in Chapelfield. I've already applied :-) Regards, AndrewB On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:45, Jon Fowler wrote: > I think you may find it was talking about my shop. I may be wrong but > there has been no communication to me. I would be in line for the > managers job if so. > > Jon > Apple Solutions Consultant > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:30, Alan Barber wrote: > >> Its not April 1st till tomorrow. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan >> >> >> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:16, Min Kennison wrote: >> >>> Great news. >>> >>> Perhaps filling in the numerous surveys I have done for them is >>> having >>> an effect. I'm always carping on about the need for Apple Store in >>> Norwich!! Hope it won't be too long >>> >>> Min >>> On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:1031 Mar 2009, Daniel Palmer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >>>> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page >>>> (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ )! This will be very useful! >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From dan_tombs at hotmail.com Tue Mar 31 18:03:23 2009 From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:03:23 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: WOW that mad news Going to see if i can get some part time work - put my Final Cut trainer Certification into action! reckon they'll be quite a bun fight over jobs there! Apple really are ramping up their market share aren't they! Dan > From: djpalmer93 at aim.com > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0100 > Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! > > Hi, > > Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich > Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ > )! This will be very useful! > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Tue Mar 31 18:18:18 2009 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:18:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> Message-ID: <6DF112CC-7E33-4410-BFED-18A929F8F52E@zen.co.uk> I reckon the Chapelfield management are licking their lips at the thought of all the extra foot traffic this store will generate for the place. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 31 Mar 2009, at 18:03, Dan Tombs wrote: > > WOW > > that mad news > > Going to see if i can get some part time work - put my Final Cut > trainer Certification into action! > > reckon they'll be quite a bun fight over jobs there! > > Apple really are ramping up their market share aren't they! > > Dan > >> From: djpalmer93 at aim.com >> To: nmug at durrant.co.uk >> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0100 >> Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! >> >> Hi, >> >> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ >> )! This will be very useful! >> >> Daniel >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Mar 31 18:20:13 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 31 Mar 2009 18:20:13 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! In-Reply-To: <6DF112CC-7E33-4410-BFED-18A929F8F52E@zen.co.uk> References: <3DB64228-BE16-45ED-834C-92A708D5B687@aim.com> <6DF112CC-7E33-4410-BFED-18A929F8F52E@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: Steven Foot traffic. If I was there I would be sleeping in Chapelfield. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Mar 31 2009, Steven Jefferson wrote: I reckon the Chapelfield management are licking their lips at the thought of all the extra foot traffic this store will generate for the place. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 31 Mar 2009, at 18:03, Dan Tombs wrote: > > WOW > > that mad news > > Going to see if i can get some part time work - put my Final Cut > trainer Certification into action! > > reckon they'll be quite a bun fight over jobs there! > > Apple really are ramping up their market share aren't they! > > Dan > >> From: djpalmer93 at aim.com >> To: nmug at durrant.co.uk >> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:52 +0100 >> Subject: [NMUG] Apple Store in Norwich! >> >> Hi, >> >> Just found out there's going to be an Apple store in Norwich >> Chapelfield, according to the Apple UK News page >> (http://www.apple.com/uk/hotnews/ )! This will be very useful! >> >> Daniel >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Mar 31 20:33:40 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:33:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] website Message-ID: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> Can someone explain the difference between 'VISITS' & 'HITS' on my website. Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 20:39:04 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:39:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] file sharing Message-ID: How do you share files on OS X? I'm trying to share a folder across the network, I've turned on filesharing on the 'server', and I believe I have to put the files I want to share in the 'Public' folder, trouble is, the folder is big (~80Gb), and I can't create an alias in the 'Public' folder, well I can, but it doesn't work. not even setting a symbolic link from the terminal works. How can I share this folder without duplicating it? I must be missing something very simple, it's been a very frustrating un-Mac like experience so far. Thanks in advance. Scott From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 20:46:45 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:46:45 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] website In-Reply-To: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> References: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> Message-ID: hits are requests for a resource from your website, if you have a page with 50 images on it and some javascript, you'll get 52* hits each time a user visits. (* 50 images, 1 html page, 1 javascript file) a visit is a user 'session', so a single user would generate 50 hits, but this would count as a single visit. there's no official definition of either of either of these terms, they were coined by snake oil salesmen *cough* sorry, I meant Search Engine Optimisation/web marketing people. summary : hits don't mean much, visits give a fair indication of number of visitors. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > > > Can someone explain the difference between 'VISITS' & 'HITS' on my > website. > > > Martin > > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From sc at davidviner.com Tue Mar 31 20:49:05 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:49:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] website In-Reply-To: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> References: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> Message-ID: <49D273B1.6070107@davidviner.com> Martin A "hit" is any download of a file from a site. For example, if your home page consisted of one HTML file, 8 images, a javascript file and a CSS file then that could represent 11 hits - sometimes only the HTML files are counted as hits by some systems. A "visit" is where a single user is tracked through multiple pages from when they first reach the site (from a bookmark or a search engine) to when they finally leave. This is why having, say, 3000 hits in a single day may only represent, say, 50 visits. If you have access to the raw log files of your web site then (for Apache servers anyway) each line represents a "hit" - it will usually contain the IP address of the user which is how site stats can track a user's progress through a site. Note that when a user looks at the same site a few days later the interaction between the browser (with its cache of previously viewed files) and the web server will reduce the "hits" the second time around. If the user's browser cache already has a copy of a file then it will be retrieved from there instead. There are various things that determine whether or not a file will be retrieved from a web server or the cache such as expiry dates set on files. Hope that makes a bit of sense! David > Can someone explain the difference between 'VISITS' & 'HITS' on my > website. > > > Martin > > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From sc at davidviner.com Tue Mar 31 20:50:10 2009 From: sc at davidviner.com (David Viner) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:50:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] website In-Reply-To: References: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> Message-ID: <49D273F2.8040706@davidviner.com> Dang - you beat me to it... ;-) Scott Matthews wrote: > hits are requests for a resource from your website, if you have a page > with 50 images on it and some javascript, you'll get 52* hits each > time a user visits. (* 50 images, 1 html page, 1 javascript file) > > a visit is a user 'session', so a single user would generate 50 hits, > but this would count as a single visit. > > there's no official definition of either of either of these terms, > they were coined by snake oil salesmen *cough* sorry, I meant Search > Engine Optimisation/web marketing people. > > summary : hits don't mean much, visits give a fair indication of > number of visitors. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Martin Fry wrote: > >> Can someone explain the difference between 'VISITS' & 'HITS' on my >> website. >> >> >> Martin >> >> www.martinfryphotography.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Mar 31 21:40:53 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:40:53 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] file sharing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A73C548-14C8-4858-A8E4-896066EC34DD@durrant.co.uk> By 'server', I'm going to assume you just mean the machine with normal Mac OS X that you're using to host the files, NOT Mac OS X Server. Go to System Preferences/Sharing. Check the File Sharing checkbox. On the right hand side are two lists. One of Shared Folder and one of Shared Folders. Click the + button under the list of shared folders. Select the folder that you want to make public (all 80GB!). That's it. The folder is now shared with default settings . You can change the access setting by selecting the folder in the list of shared folders, and than changing the settings in the Users column. "Everyone" controls the access give to guests connecting over the network. regards, Paul On 31 Mar 2009, at 20:39, Scott Matthews wrote: > How do you share files on OS X? > > I'm trying to share a folder across the network, I've turned on > filesharing on the 'server', and I believe I have to put the files I > want to share in the 'Public' folder, trouble is, the folder is big > (~80Gb), and I can't create an alias in the 'Public' folder, well I > can, but it doesn't work. not even setting a symbolic link from the > terminal works. > > How can I share this folder without duplicating it? I must be missing > something very simple, it's been a very frustrating un-Mac like > experience so far. From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 22:27:18 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:27:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] file sharing In-Reply-To: <2A73C548-14C8-4858-A8E4-896066EC34DD@durrant.co.uk> References: <2A73C548-14C8-4858-A8E4-896066EC34DD@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: sorry Paul, forgot to mention that the machine hosting the folder is running Tiger ('desktop' version, not OS X Server) , and there is no list of files/folders in the right hand panel of the sharing prefs pane. I want this folder to be available to all ie no username/password required. I thought I'd managed to get aliases working, when I tested it I could see the folder on my macbook, but my wife could not see it on hers. she could see the shortcut/alias, but got an error when clicking it. The alias on the remote machine points to /Users/scott/Music - I use the same username on my macbook, the paths were the same, and the remote alias was opening a folder on the client. very odd On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: > By 'server', I'm going to assume you just mean the machine with normal > Mac OS X that you're using to host the files, NOT Mac OS X Server. > > Go to System Preferences/Sharing. Check the File Sharing checkbox. > On the right hand side are two lists. One of Shared Folder and one of > Shared Folders. > Click the + button under the list of shared folders. Select the folder > that you want to make public (all 80GB!). > > That's it. The folder is now shared with default settings . You can > change the access setting by selecting the folder in the list of > shared folders, and than changing the settings in the Users column. > "Everyone" controls the access give to guests connecting over the > network. > > regards, > > Paul From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Mar 31 23:54:00 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:54:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] website In-Reply-To: <7832BC41-C1CB-48ED-A1EF-ABC2EFC5069F@virgin.net> Message-ID: As I understand it - Every single file on the page is a hit when it is requested. A single page can be a large number of hits as it may contain a number of resources such as images. A visit may encompass many or one page and a corresponding number of hits arise from the files that make up the page. Many hits are generated by web bots or crawlers that spider your site - such as Google search bots and spam bots seeking email addresses. You can get more sense of the activity on your site by looking that the graphical stats - such as Awstats or similar in your web hosting Control Panel. hope this helps regards Brian Martin Fry said recently: > > > Can someone explain the difference between 'VISITS' & 'HITS' on my > website. > > > Martin > > www.martinfryphotography.com > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Mar 31 23:59:26 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:59:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] file sharing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Scott Try Batchmod - which can set the permissions of a folder and enclosed files - and make them stick! I haven't used it in a while but I did on Tiger. It is donationware. all the best Brian Scott Matthews said recently: > sorry Paul, forgot to mention that the machine hosting the folder is > running Tiger ('desktop' version, not OS X Server) , and there is no > list of files/folders in the right hand panel of the sharing prefs > pane. > > I want this folder to be available to all ie no username/password required. > > I thought I'd managed to get aliases working, when I tested it I > could see the folder on my macbook, but my wife could not see it on > hers. she could see the shortcut/alias, but got an error when clicking > it. The alias on the remote machine points to /Users/scott/Music - I > use the same username on my macbook, the paths were the same, and the > remote alias was opening a folder on the client. very odd > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Paul Durrant wrote: >> By 'server', I'm going to assume you just mean the machine with normal >> Mac OS X that you're using to host the files, NOT Mac OS X Server. >> >> Go to System Preferences/Sharing. Check the File Sharing checkbox. >> On the right hand side are two lists. One of Shared Folder and one of >> Shared Folders. >> Click the + button under the list of shared folders. Select the folder >> that you want to make public (all 80GB!). >> >> That's it. The folder is now shared with default settings . You can >> change the access setting by selecting the folder in the list of >> shared folders, and than changing the settings in the Users column. >> "Everyone" controls the access give to guests connecting over the >> network. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Sun Mar 29 21:06:42 2009 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:06:42 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Memory and iMovie 09 Message-ID: Hi everyone As mentioned yesterday my iMovie is really slow, and since we upgraded to 8.01 last night it has constantly had the spinning beach ball, has been impossible to move clips or do anything in the way of editing before the whole thing goes hay wire. Last night whilst struggling to use the programme after the upgrade, the dock disappeared, finder disappeared, as did the toolbar. As it was impossible to close down or restart computer, we had to switch off at the mains. I have just opened up activity monitor and even after closing down all other open applications the free memory went down to 15 mb with only Movie open. While I am doing this email it has 400 mb free everything else closed except Mail. A few questions: 1. Is the first step to upgrade the memory (it has 1 Gb at the moment). 2. Would this be easy to do for novices? 3. What memory do we need to purchase for our iMac - Processor: 2.4 Ghz Intel Core Duo. Memory: I Gb 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM? 4. Would it be possible to get someone to instal the extra memory if it is a complicated job? 5. Could there be any other reason for iMovie's behaviour - we have done all the necessary housekeeping etc. Looking forward to hearing from anybody who can help. Thanks Ed PS - Not sure if a copy of this email reached you several hours ago - I sent it but it never appeared in my 'sent' mailbox, or my 'NMUG' mailbox! I tracked it down through search. Don't know what happened.. Ed From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Mar 29 21:32:09 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 29 Mar 2009 21:32:09 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Magnifique Message-ID: Hi I am checking out a free theme manager for OSX http://magnifiqueapp.com/ Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...)