From dan_tombs at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 09:55:31 2009 From: dan_tombs at hotmail.com (Dan Tombs) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:55:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone 2G & 3.0 for 99p In-Reply-To: <7A904291-C2BB-426E-A01A-FE2E86AF39D1@anyisle.com> References: <7A904291-C2BB-426E-A01A-FE2E86AF39D1@anyisle.com> Message-ID: Hi Neil, Exactly the same happened to me when i sold a Sony Ericsson Mobile after getting my iPhone 3G : ) Had a dodgy bidder paying completely over the odds for the handset, asking me to ship it to Nigeria and include a note wishing his son Happy Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!! I even received forged emails reputing to be from PayPal saying the buyer had made payment !!!! I contacted the buyer and said that i would only ship to his registered eBay address (in the US) and that he must make payment first! I heard no reply so i had to open an unpaid item dispute with eBay, once that case was closed i was then able to relist the item 7 days later - and it sold to a genuine buyer for much less than the other genuine bids i had in the original auction. It's very frustrating. The only thing you can really do if your selling high value and physically small electronics, phones, iPods etc... is to restrict the auction to UK only bidders and exclude people who have less than 5 feedback entries from bidding amongst other similar precautions. Seems a bit drastic but saves one being burnt by dodgy bidders! Hope you resolve your case. Best Dan > From: yahooist at anyisle.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:46:03 +0100 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Subject: Re: [NMUG] iPhone 2G & 3.0 for 99p > > Hello All, > > I thought I would give an update on this as I involved you earlier > in the week. > > Well, it sold this evening. Or did it? > > Over last night it near doubled to ?82 and has increased steadily > over the course of today. There was a feeding frenzy in the last half > hour that saw it go from ?170 to ?218. As you can imagine I was well > pleased. > > When I looked at the detail, it had sold to a late, single-bid buyer > who had joined eBay yesterday, has zero feedback, and has bid on 10 > mobile phone auctions already. Soon after, I received an eBay email > from them that was saying that because of a mistake they couldn't pay > through the normal eBay process and would I go direct through PayPal. > Their incomprehensible writing style had much to do with their > eastern European surname, I suspect. He's what they said: > > "Unfortunately I cannot pay through ebay since I the first time have > incorrectly entered paypal an account, therefore I want at once > through paypal therefore to me you is necessary paypal email." > > No Sale! I think. I have offered it to bidders 2 & 3 but cannot find > an eBay process whereby I can cancel the first sale and warn eBay > themselves of this obvious fraudster. > > Regards... > Neil > > > > > On 25 Jun 2009, at 12:28, Neil S. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm selling mine on eBay as I have upgraded to the iPhone 3G S but > > I am shocked by the lack of interest. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320388278402 > > > > It's been on eBay for a day-and-a-half and has had 32 viewings (3 > > are me!) with only one person bidding. He has it at the moment for > > 99p. I can't understand why there's not more viewings. > > > > Please excuse me drumming up trade but I thought this might be of > > interest to someone here. > > > > Regards... > > Neil > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ From amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 1 11:23:46 2009 From: amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk (Arthur Lucas) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:23:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] : Re: Spotlight indexing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have still got problems with Spotlighty not indexing, and therefore not finding, documents saved as Word 1.x-5.x documents. These a part of a set of historical letters being edited, in a project that started in 1987. There are about 15,000 files,of which probably 8-10,000 are still in the old format. I can use Word 97-2004 manually to open an old file, but have to save it with a new file name (!). It then indexes perfectly. I cannot find any suggestions on how to get spotlight to index these files. Any ideas on how to trick it into treating them as documents that it recognises? I guess the other alternative is to automate a conversion from the old Word to the new. Is it possible to use an Apple scripting to do this? If so, is there someone who can teach me how to do it. The 'Help' for Apple Script assumes a greater level of initial understanding than I have. Arthur >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:20:24 +0100 >From: Richard Nevill >Subject: Re: [NMUG] Spotlight indexing >To: Norwich Mac User Group list >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >This might help: > >http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2409?viewlocale=en_US > >Richard. > > >On 21 Jun 2009, at 10:50, Arthur Lucas wrote: > >> I have migrated files to a new iMac, and all updates have been >> applied, but Spotlight has clearly not indexed all files and it is >> not showing that an index is in progress (no dot in middle of >> magnifying glass icon). >> What to do to get the indexing done? > -- -- Prof A M Lucas 16 Downham Crescent Wymondham NR18 0SF 01953 602214 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 1 18:14:01 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:14:01 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Classilla ... Browser For OS9 Message-ID: <2A2A6EB0-D0AA-45D5-8981-770B172DDA84@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I know not many of you still delve into OS9, but I thought this might be of interest to some of you. Classilla builds on WaMCoM's port which ended in 2003 and is aiming to catch up to the latest version of Firefox offering a more secure browser for OS9 and OS8.6 http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/ Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From minkennison at mac.com Wed Jul 1 19:29:52 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:29:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts Message-ID: HI everyone Since updating the software on my iPhone 3g I have now got 2 of every contact after syncing. All other items synced eg mail and iCal have not been affected. I have reset the iPhone but still have 2 of everyone - even you!!!! Can someone please point me in the right direction to get rid of all these duplicates Min From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 1 21:07:12 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:07:12 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Rejoin & Firefox Message-ID: <8C4F2E46-1BC6-417F-B663-DF53CEDA2C34@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I have a question. I have Leopard on my PowerBook G4. And I am connected wirelessly to my Tiscali branded Siemens router. When I close the lid of my PowerBook it sleeps like it is supposed to and wakes as soon as I open it. When it wakes the Airport signal at the top is grey and within seconds it has joined my network and is black again. This all works as it supposed to I assume. However I have an issue with Firefox after wake. It has happened for a while. I had Firefox 3.0.10 yesterday and updated to 3.5 last night and it still does it. If Firefox is open when I close the lid, when I open the lid it will not let me continue browsing. I have to quit Firefox and reload it. It doesn't crash or anything it just won't find any pages. Is this normal behaviour for Firefox or am I missing something. I haven't raised it before as I thought it was normal. But my wife has Firefox on her Windows XP laptop and it rejoins when it wakes and will instantly continue browsing pages without having to be quit and relaunched. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 1 23:52:44 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:52:44 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Rejoin & Firefox In-Reply-To: <8C4F2E46-1BC6-417F-B663-DF53CEDA2C34@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <8C4F2E46-1BC6-417F-B663-DF53CEDA2C34@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A4BE8BC.1040502@stackyard.org> Hi Simon, Is this a DNS issue, i.e. when Firefox is not playing ball, can you open a terminal window and successfully ping ? If so, it looks like there might be some sort of IPv6 issue which, although it hasn't happened to me looks like it has happened to others. Suggestions can be found at http://tinyurl.com/kq3pfl and I have also seen someone say that disabling IPv6 in the Advanced section of the Network System Preferences solves the problem. One fix disables IPv6 in FireFox while the other disables it in Leopard. See what happens. I haven't seen any reference as to why this bug occurs or whose fault it is and, as I say, Firefox 3.0.11 and Leopard live and sleep happily together on my Mac Mini without any disabling of IPv6. I'll try 3.5 and let you know if anything goes awry. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have a question. I have Leopard on my PowerBook G4. And I am > connected wirelessly to my Tiscali branded Siemens router. > > When I close the lid of my PowerBook it sleeps like it is supposed to > and wakes as soon as I open it. When it wakes the Airport signal at > the top is grey and within seconds it has joined my network and is > black again. This all works as it supposed to I assume. > > However I have an issue with Firefox after wake. It has happened for a > while. I had Firefox 3.0.10 yesterday and updated to 3.5 last night > and it still does it. > > If Firefox is open when I close the lid, when I open the lid it will > not let me continue browsing. I have to quit Firefox and reload it. It > doesn't crash or anything it just won't find any pages. > > Is this normal behaviour for Firefox or am I missing something. I > haven't raised it before as I thought it was normal. But my wife has > Firefox on her Windows XP laptop and it rejoins when it wakes and will > instantly continue browsing pages without having to be quit and > relaunched. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ian at igdesign.co.uk Thu Jul 2 01:02:44 2009 From: ian at igdesign.co.uk (Ian Garrett) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:02:44 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail Message-ID: Hi All, I have a problem with some emails that I receive from PC users. They appear in Mail in Helvetica Condensed at about 7pt, and are a little hard to read! I'm assuming that these emails were composed in some font that I don't have, and that my Mac is substituting a default font. I'd love to change that default to something legible, but I can't see how. In Mail Preferences, Fonts & Colors, the relevant item to adjust seems to be Message Font. Using that, I can change the message size but not the type face. Any suggestions? Regards, Ian From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Jul 2 08:11:05 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:11:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> They're probably really composing them in 7pt. Windows machines show more dots per point size, so they appear a bit bigger on Windows machines. Use command-= to bump up the font size. There is a way to set a default font and size (Preferences/Fonts & Colours), but this only works on emails that don't specify the font and size. regards, Paul On 2 Jul 2009, at 01:02, Ian Garrett wrote: > > I have a problem with some emails that I receive from PC users. They > appear in Mail in Helvetica Condensed at about 7pt, and are a little > hard to read! I'm assuming that these emails were composed in some > font that I don't have, and that my Mac is substituting a default > font. I'd love to change that default to something legible, but I > can't see how. In Mail Preferences, Fonts & Colors, the relevant item > to adjust seems to be Message Font. Using that, I can change the > message size but not the type face. Any suggestions? From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 2 08:28:01 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> References: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Another hidden gem! I use command & + keys together, which does the same thing (command & - keys together makes it smaller) Robbie On 2 Jul 2009, at 08:11, Paul Durrant wrote: Use command-= to bump up the font size From ian at igdesign.co.uk Thu Jul 2 08:35:57 2009 From: ian at igdesign.co.uk (Ian Garrett) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:35:57 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: References: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, Robbie and Paul. That gets the font larger (or smaller, of course) very easily. I've also de-activated Helvetica Condensed temporarily, and (guessing wildly) activated Tahoma, so I'll see what happens. Regards, Ian On 2 Jul , at Thu 02 Jul 2009, 08:28:01, Robbie Murray wrote: > Another hidden gem! > > I use command & + keys together, which does the same thing (command & > - keys together makes it smaller) > > > Robbie > > On 2 Jul 2009, at 08:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > > Use command-= to bump up the font size > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Thu Jul 2 08:55:10 2009 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael Andrews) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:55:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: References: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C2A1215-6499-46CE-8FD7-7F688E58ECA3@ntlworld.com> You could also try "plain text alternative" from the view menu. It's on a per message basis as opposed to having to mess with anything overall. This will show it in whatever font and size you specify for plain text mails in your preferences. excellent for those pesky html or miniscule fonted emails. I think the keyboard shortcut is alt cmd P. Rachael From alanbarber at mac.com Thu Jul 2 09:14:14 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:14:14 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] data into touch Message-ID: I have been sent some info on bikes and it is in a folder on my desktop which opens and I can read ok. Is there anyway I can put this onto my ipod touch? I have been to add to library and it shows up ok but when I press open nothing happens. I did try to open in iphoto as a PDF as i had done with a map but it didn't work this time. I doubt I will be able to do anything this time. there are about 15 pages Regards Alan From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 2 09:48:07 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:48:07 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: References: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: When building cross platform databases, I always use 12 pt Verdana, as it's one of the few which renders almost identically in both Windows and Mac OS. Unfortunately, this doesn't help if some PC user sends you a post with a non-standard font! Robbie On 2 Jul 2009, at 08:35, Ian Garrett wrote: Thanks, Robbie and Paul. That gets the font larger (or smaller, of course) very easily. I've also de-activated Helvetica Condensed temporarily, and (guessing wildly) activated Tahoma, so I'll see what happens. Regards, Ian On 2 Jul , at Thu 02 Jul 2009, 08:28:01, Robbie Murray wrote: > Another hidden gem! > > I use command & + keys together, which does the same thing (command & > - keys together makes it smaller) > > > Robbie > > On 2 Jul 2009, at 08:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > > Use command-= to bump up the font size > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rob at atvetsystems.com Thu Jul 2 11:41:43 2009 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:41:43 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] data into touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BDC20CC-AB28-4F7A-AE75-E7654EC7F5EA@atvetsystems.com> Hello, Alan, If the information is in a PDF you could try an application like Air Sharing which would allow you to put files onto you iPod touch and then view most common file types on the device. Regards, Rob. On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:14, Alan Barber wrote: > I have been sent some info on bikes and it is in a folder on my > desktop which opens and I can read ok. > Is there anyway I can put this onto my ipod touch? > I have been to add to library and it shows up ok but when I press open > nothing happens. > I did try to open in iphoto as a PDF as i had done with a map but it > didn't work this time. > I doubt I will be able to do anything this time. > there are about 15 pages > > Regards > > Alan From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Jul 2 11:50:11 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:50:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Robbie's Gem for the day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BAE60E5-D63C-4F20-8429-E6FE48DE4DBB@gmail.com> > > > Another hidden gem! > > I use command & + keys together, which does the same thing (command & > - keys together makes it smaller) > > > Robbie OMG.. a very useful tip indeed. Now, if it would only work on my wallet. From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 2 12:02:49 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:02:49 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Robbie's Gem for the day In-Reply-To: <7BAE60E5-D63C-4F20-8429-E6FE48DE4DBB@gmail.com> References: <7BAE60E5-D63C-4F20-8429-E6FE48DE4DBB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Careful - I tried it, and it made the moths bigger too! :-) Robbie On 2 Jul 2009, at 11:50, stefan youngs wrote: > > > Another hidden gem! > > I use command & + keys together, which does the same thing (command & > - keys together makes it smaller) > > > Robbie OMG.. a very useful tip indeed. Now, if it would only work on my wallet. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From minkennison at mac.com Thu Jul 2 12:28:03 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:28:03 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts Message-ID: HI everyone Since updating the software on my iPhone 3g I have now got 2 of every contact after syncing. All other items synced eg mail and iCal have not been affected. I have reset the iPhone but still have 2 of everyone - even you!!!! Can someone please point me in the right direction to get rid of all these duplicates Min From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Jul 2 12:44:08 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Min I also seem to have 2 of that email too. :) Simon On 2 Jul 2009, at 12:28, Min Kennison wrote: > HI everyone > > Since updating the software on my iPhone 3g I have now got 2 of every > contact after syncing. All other items synced eg mail and iCal have > not been affected. I have reset the iPhone but still have 2 of > everyone - even you!!!! > > Can someone please point me in the right direction to get rid of all > these duplicates > > > Min > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 2 12:47:51 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:47:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And it looks like it's sending twice too! Don't have any answer I'm afraid, but maybe you could delete all then re-sync? Robbie On 2 Jul 2009, at 12:28, Min Kennison wrote: HI everyone Since updating the software on my iPhone 3g I have now got 2 of every contact after syncing. All other items synced eg mail and iCal have not been affected. I have reset the iPhone but still have 2 of everyone - even you!!!! Can someone please point me in the right direction to get rid of all these duplicates Min _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Jul 2 12:55:36 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:55:36 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2 Jul 2009, at 12:28, Min Kennison wrote: > Since updating the software on my iPhone 3g I have now got 2 of every > contact after syncing. All other items synced eg mail and iCal have > not been affected. I have reset the iPhone but still have 2 of > everyone - even you!!!! > > Can someone please point me in the right direction to get rid of all > these duplicates Do you have 2 copies in Address Book as well? Address Book has an option for dealing with duplicates (Card -> look for duplicates). If you Address Book copy is fine, just tell iTunes to replace the Contacts (an option under the Info tab at the bottom when you iPhone is plugged in). Hope that helps. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From minkennison at mac.com Thu Jul 2 14:03:40 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:03:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi david Address book has only one copy and I have done the replace and still no joy Min On 2 Jul 2009, at 12:552 Jul 2009, David Reynolds wrote: > Do you have 2 copies in Address Book as well? From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Jul 2 14:30:33 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:30:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone contacts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88A5E7A7-7B8F-4B8B-AF9A-14A7E66DE1D8@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:03, Min Kennison wrote: > Address book has only one copy and I have done the replace and still > no joy I'm all out of ideas aside from factory restore and resync and that seems a bit over the top... -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From richardivers at mac.com Thu Jul 2 16:41:10 2009 From: richardivers at mac.com (Richard Ivers) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:41:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] data into touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E424203-D0C1-4918-A4E0-C6880EF1B7C2@mac.com> This might help, open the PDF file > save as jpeg > to an album in iphoto. When u next sync tick that album and it will appear on ur iphone. This works on my iPod touch, should work with the iPhone too. Regards Richard On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:14, Alan Barber wrote: > I have been sent some info on bikes and it is in a folder on my > desktop which opens and I can read ok. > Is there anyway I can put this onto my ipod touch? > I have been to add to library and it shows up ok but when I press open > nothing happens. > I did try to open in iphoto as a PDF as i had done with a map but it > didn't work this time. > I doubt I will be able to do anything this time. > there are about 15 pages > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From 2003r2tech at googlemail.com Thu Jul 2 12:29:32 2009 From: 2003r2tech at googlemail.com (Gmail) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:29:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] data into touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alan I use an app could Air Sharing which allows to view loads of different types of documents including PDF's. It shows on your Mac as a drive and you can just drag and drop stuff straight into it. Regards Simon Bainbridge On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:14, Alan Barber wrote: > I have been sent some info on bikes and it is in a folder on my > desktop which opens and I can read ok. > Is there anyway I can put this onto my ipod touch? > I have been to add to library and it shows up ok but when I press open > nothing happens. > I did try to open in iphoto as a PDF as i had done with a map but it > didn't work this time. > I doubt I will be able to do anything this time. > there are about 15 pages > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Thu Jul 2 20:26:37 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:26:37 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Full hard drive Message-ID: <2111F08B-ACAB-4314-BC08-88F56C37E3B1@virgin.net> My no-1 hard drive is almost full and I believe is causing my G4 to freeze on occasion. Can I just drag or copy everything on H/D-1 to my H/D-2 ? or, do I have to re-install the operating system to the new drive ? and do I have to re-install all my programs as well? or just drag them across? Martin G4 O/S 10.4.11 From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 2 21:13:33 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:13:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Full hard drive In-Reply-To: <2111F08B-ACAB-4314-BC08-88F56C37E3B1@virgin.net> References: <2111F08B-ACAB-4314-BC08-88F56C37E3B1@virgin.net> Message-ID: <10B4EF6D-25A2-4564-A711-7801A803E047@f2s.com> Not quite sure what you mean .... If your existing internal drive is suffering only from lack of space, all you need do is copy all your personal files onto the second drive, then delete from Drive 1 leaving just the operating system and Applications. If, however, you want the new drive to be your primary one, you would probably be best to install the OS on it, then use Migration assistant to pull in all the files, after which you can make it the Boot Drive and reformat the original to leave an empty, clean drive for storage. You could also back everything up to the new drive using SuperDuper, taking the option to make it bootable, then simply use that as the boot drive and wipe the old one as above. The choice is yours! Robbie On 2 Jul 2009, at 20:26, Martin Fry wrote: My no-1 hard drive is almost full and I believe is causing my G4 to freeze on occasion. Can I just drag or copy everything on H/D-1 to my H/D-2 ? or, do I have to re-install the operating system to the new drive ? and do I have to re-install all my programs as well? or just drag them across? Martin G4 O/S 10.4.11 _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Jul 2 23:02:41 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:02:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Full hard drive In-Reply-To: <2111F08B-ACAB-4314-BC08-88F56C37E3B1@virgin.net> References: <2111F08B-ACAB-4314-BC08-88F56C37E3B1@virgin.net> Message-ID: <152A557F-E1F8-46C9-99C3-83612799D4F2@durrant.co.uk> None of the options below are the best. The first won't work, and the other two are slow, error-prone and unnecessary. Either of Robbie's suggestions will work. I'd suggest that the simplest and quickest (if there's nothing on the second drive) is to use SuperDuper! to transfer the entire contents of your first disk to your second (larger) disk, and then set that as the boot disk in the Startup control panel. I did just that last week for Ruth, moving her MacBook from 80GB to 160GB. Paul On 2 Jul 2009, at 20:26, Martin Fry wrote: > Can I just drag or copy everything on H/D-1 to my H/D-2 ? > > or, do I have to re-install the operating system to the new drive ? > > and do I have to re-install all my programs as well? or just drag > them across? From ian at igdesign.co.uk Thu Jul 2 23:17:33 2009 From: ian at igdesign.co.uk (Ian Garrett) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:17:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Default font in Mail In-Reply-To: <4C2A1215-6499-46CE-8FD7-7F688E58ECA3@ntlworld.com> References: <6E2CF831-852C-450F-9B5A-2BFB1970CD4D@durrant.co.uk> <4C2A1215-6499-46CE-8FD7-7F688E58ECA3@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Thank you Rachael. That's worth considering, and handy since there's a keyboard shortcut. Regards, Ian On 2 Jul , at Thu 02 Jul 2009, 08:55:10, Rachael Andrews wrote: > You could also try "plain text alternative" from the view menu. It's > on a per message basis as opposed to having to mess with anything > overall. This will show it in whatever font and size you specify for > plain text mails in your preferences. excellent for those pesky html > or miniscule fonted emails. I think the keyboard shortcut is alt cmd > P. > > Rachael > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 09:25:57 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 03 Jul 2009 09:25:57 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? Message-ID: Hi I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I need some help. My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so much. So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com PCMCIA wireless card in it. It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then last week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring network address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain pages didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID and WPA2 key. This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my wifes started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it would then disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my network. Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other networks. I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is still working fine, but I still can't see the network. Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing something wrong. Regards Simon PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Fri Jul 3 09:30:38 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:30:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon, I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case where you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that doesn't overlap with ones near you (using this list http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) Cheers, David On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I > need > some help. > > My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so > much. > So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com PCMCIA > wireless card in it. > > It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 > encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then last > week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring > network > address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. > > I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook > running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain > pages > didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). > > So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID > and WPA2 > key. > > This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my > wifes > started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it > would then > disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. > > This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my > network. > Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other networks. > > I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is > still > working fine, but I still can't see the network. > > Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing > something > wrong. > > Regards > > Simon > > PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 09:32:34 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:32:34 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Street View at Google Message-ID: Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. Paul C From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 09:46:09 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:46:09 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the > channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case > where you are? Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are using? Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel change? Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 10:17:11 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F602CEE-4DCF-4901-B19B-9AFD69D70637@simonroyal.co.uk> David I think my channel is 6. There is another network at 1 and 10. If this was channel interference why would my wife be having lovely wireless internet today on our network - yet I cannot even see my network? Simon On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > Simon, > > I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the > channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case > where you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that doesn't > overlap with ones near you (using this list http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) > > Cheers, > > David > > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I >> need >> some help. >> >> My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so >> much. >> So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com >> PCMCIA >> wireless card in it. >> >> It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 >> encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then >> last >> week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring >> network >> address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. >> >> I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook >> running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain >> pages >> didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). >> >> So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID >> and WPA2 >> key. >> >> This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my >> wifes >> started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it >> would then >> disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. >> >> This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my >> network. >> Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other >> networks. >> >> I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is >> still >> working fine, but I still can't see the network. >> >> Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing >> something >> wrong. >> >> Regards >> >> Simon >> >> PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. >> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 10:17:55 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:55 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Street View at Google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Haven't reached out neck of the woods yet. Simon On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:32, Paul Chapman wrote: > Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at > Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going > along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the > pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart > from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by > Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 10:19:49 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:19:49 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Changing channels doesn't affect those connected. You might get a few seconds outage if the router needs rebooting but your machines should reconnect automatically with no change to them. I use a free program called iStumbler, it shows you all the networks in range, what channel they are on and what their signal strength is. It's a life saver at times. Simon On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:46, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > >> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >> where you are? > > Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are using? > Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the > computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be > connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel > change? > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Jul 3 11:00:04 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour Message-ID: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1@gmail.com> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress bar (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) 2 of 2 Why is it sending 2 messages? Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Jul 3 11:10:51 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:10:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour In-Reply-To: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1@gmail.com> References: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the server, as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on server". I'm just checking this now... Paul On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: > When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress bar > (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) > > 2 of 2 > > Why is it sending 2 messages? > > Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Jul 3 11:11:47 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:11:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour In-Reply-To: References: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2CC23AF2-3A54-4003-97B2-A5C0229AC3D4@durrant.co.uk> I couldn't tell - it went too fast. It's probably something like that. Paul On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:10, Paul Durrant wrote: > It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the server, > as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on > server". I'm just checking this now... > > Paul > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: > >> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress >> bar >> (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) >> >> 2 of 2 >> >> Why is it sending 2 messages? >> >> Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Jul 3 11:18:27 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:18:27 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour. Mail sending 2 messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <840F3C67-299C-463A-9C87-DC45CF1FE1FA@gmail.com> > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > > > It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the server, > as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on > server". I'm just checking this now... > > Paul Good suggestion, but I don't have it set to store on the server From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 12:17:23 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:17:23 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 Message-ID: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> I think my G4 is not well! After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as well). This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder across. Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. Martin From fowler.j at me.com Fri Jul 3 12:33:06 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:33:06 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 In-Reply-To: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> References: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> Message-ID: <2B7E005A-AE51-4B1F-93D4-EA8E8A0B9EA0@me.com> Hi Martin If you decide a new machine is in order I have a Mac Pro down from ?1799 to ?1349 if you are interested. I will also install iLife 09 and iWork 09 free of charge. Jon Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:17, Martin Fry wrote: > I think my G4 is not well! > > After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was > at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as > well). > > This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually > froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder across. > > Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 12:41:36 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:41:36 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 In-Reply-To: <2B7E005A-AE51-4B1F-93D4-EA8E8A0B9EA0@me.com> References: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> <2B7E005A-AE51-4B1F-93D4-EA8E8A0B9EA0@me.com> Message-ID: hi Jon I might take you up on that. Can you tell the specs please Martin > Hi Martin > > If you decide a new machine is in order I have a Mac Pro down from > ?1799 to ?1349 if you are interested. I will also install iLife 09 > and iWork 09 free of charge. > > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:17, Martin Fry > wrote: > >> I think my G4 is not well! >> >> After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was >> at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as >> well). >> >> This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually >> froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder across. >> >> Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. >> >> Martin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From fowler.j at me.com Fri Jul 3 12:47:55 2009 From: fowler.j at me.com (Jon Fowler) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:47:55 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 In-Reply-To: References: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> <2B7E005A-AE51-4B1F-93D4-EA8E8A0B9EA0@me.com> Message-ID: <3C4EF177-6847-438E-B89D-1D7C7D2FA28A@me.com> 2.8ghz quad core 2gb RAM (upgradable to 32gb) 320gb HD (upgradable to 4tb) Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:41, Martin Fry wrote: > hi Jon > > I might take you up on that. > > Can you tell the specs please > > Martin > > > > > > > >> Hi Martin >> >> If you decide a new machine is in order I have a Mac Pro down from >> ?1799 to ?1349 if you are interested. I will also install iLife 09 >> and iWork 09 free of charge. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:17, Martin Fry >> wrote: >> >>> I think my G4 is not well! >>> >>> After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was >>> at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as >>> well). >>> >>> This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually >>> froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder >>> across. >>> >>> Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Jul 3 12:56:00 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:56:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 In-Reply-To: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> References: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> Message-ID: Why are you copying across? Migration Assistant will do it for you, but it could take all night. it would be advisable, though, to delete anything you can from HD1 beforehand ........ Even with a new machine, your existing disk will struggle to transfer the data with so little free space! Robbie Robbie Murray 01603 620749 01603 516175 07882 007667 macman at f2s.com On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:17, Martin Fry wrote: I think my G4 is not well! After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as well). This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder across. Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. Martin _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Fri Jul 3 14:03:46 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:03:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour. Mail sending 2 messages In-Reply-To: <840F3C67-299C-463A-9C87-DC45CF1FE1FA@gmail.com> References: <840F3C67-299C-463A-9C87-DC45CF1FE1FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1FB916E6-9E69-48C7-A980-3FC482D7270B@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Are you sending an attachment or even an HTML message rather than plain text? John On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:18, stefan youngs wrote: > > > >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour >> >> >> It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the >> server, >> as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on >> server". I'm just checking this now... >> >> Paul > > > Good suggestion, but I don't have it set to store on the server > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Jul 3 14:44:56 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:56 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Sick G4 In-Reply-To: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> References: <63CE40C4-5FC4-4670-B734-505C9F3E94B7@virgin.net> Message-ID: <620C8051-6D4D-4E06-9E54-0825FEABC80E@durrant.co.uk> 2GB free should be OK - it's only if it actually runs out of space that Mac OS X has serious problems. But you could try moving/deleting some large items from your HD1 to see if that makes any difference. Otherwise, you could try re-seating your DIMMs - i.e. taking them out and then putting them back. If there's any kind of slightly dodgy connection that should fix it. Lastly, you could try running the hardware test that (I think) is on your Tiger DVD. Boot from the DVD, while holding down the space bar - I think an option to boot from a testing partition willl show up. Paul On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:17, Martin Fry wrote: > I think my G4 is not well! > > After freezing completely several times I thought that my H/D-1 was > at fault with only about 2 gb of space left (& Photoshop using it as > well). > > This morning I installed O/S 10.4 again but on HD-2 but it actually > froze on disk no- 4 whilt transferring my applications folder across. > > Any ideas please welcome or any good deals on a G5 or MacPro. From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 17:28:30 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:28:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] I have my MBP back, hurrah! Message-ID: At the last meeting I said that my MacBook Pro had developed a fault that morning. On start up the screen would light up, the gear turn round and then it would go dark except there would be a very, very faint image of the desktop. Sounded like a problem with the backlight but it was unusual that the screen would light up on start up each time and then go. Bite had fun trying to sort it out but managed to fix it by changing the logic board. They had not come across a symptom and fault like that before. No charge as it still has three months left of its three year Apple Care. Paul C From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Jul 3 20:38:40 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:38:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] 10.4.11 Message-ID: I have just re-installed O/S 10.4 on my sick G4. I was just about to update that to 10.4.11 when I read that that is what could be causing the freezing problems I am having! I need to update to 10.4.6 to get Photoshop to work. Is there anyway I can just update to 10.4.6 only? Martin From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Jul 3 20:44:02 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:44:02 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] 10.4.11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <884E79AE-44CC-4216-99E6-0E402776F30E@durrant.co.uk> Just go to the downloads area of the support section of the appe website, and download the combo 10.4.6 updater. (quick search).... from here: http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_4_6_Combo_for_PPC regards, Paul On 3 Jul 2009, at 20:38, Martin Fry wrote: > I have just re-installed O/S 10.4 on my sick G4. > > I was just about to update that to 10.4.11 when I read that that is > what could be causing the freezing problems I am having! > > I need to update to 10.4.6 to get Photoshop to work. Is there anyway > I can just update to 10.4.6 only? From michelehurst at mac.com Fri Jul 3 21:33:11 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:33:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] router problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Probably not much help but I have had this problem when my pc and mac have been too close to each other. If I move my pc well away from my mac it is fine but if they are nearby my pc gives me all the messages about net work probs yet on any other premises it connects without a murmur so I have had to put it down to proximity. All the best Michele On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:11, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 2. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (David Reynolds) > 3. Street View at Google (Paul Chapman) > 4. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Paul Chapman) > 5. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 6. Re: Street View at Google (Simon Royal) > 7. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 8. Odd Mail behaviour (stefan youngs) > 9. Re: Odd Mail behaviour (Paul Durrant) > 10. Re: Odd Mail behaviour (Paul Durrant) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: 03 Jul 2009 09:25:57 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > > I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I > need > some help. > > My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so > much. > So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com PCMCIA > wireless card in it. > > It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 > encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then last > week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring > network > address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. > > I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook > running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain > pages > didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). > > So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID > and WPA2 > key. > > This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my > wifes > started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it > would then > disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. > > This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my > network. > Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other networks. > > I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is > still > working fine, but I still can't see the network. > > Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing > something > wrong. > > Regards > > Simon > > PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:30:38 +0100 > From: David Reynolds > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Simon, > > I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the > channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case > where you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that doesn't > overlap with ones near you (using this list http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) > > Cheers, > > David > > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I >> need >> some help. >> >> My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so >> much. >> So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com >> PCMCIA >> wireless card in it. >> >> It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 >> encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then >> last >> week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring >> network >> address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. >> >> I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook >> running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain >> pages >> didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). >> >> So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID >> and WPA2 >> key. >> >> This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my >> wifes >> started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it >> would then >> disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. >> >> This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my >> network. >> Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other >> networks. >> >> I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is >> still >> working fine, but I still can't see the network. >> >> Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing >> something >> wrong. >> >> Regards >> >> Simon >> >> PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. >> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:32:34 +0100 > From: Paul Chapman > Subject: [NMUG] Street View at Google > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at > Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going > along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the > pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart > from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by > Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. > > Paul C > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:46:09 +0100 > From: Paul Chapman > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > >> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >> where you are? > > Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are using? > Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the > computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be > connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel > change? > > Paul C > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:11 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <0F602CEE-4DCF-4901-B19B-9AFD69D70637 at simonroyal.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > David > > I think my channel is 6. There is another network at 1 and 10. > > If this was channel interference why would my wife be having lovely > wireless internet today on our network - yet I cannot even see my > network? > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > >> Simon, >> >> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >> where you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that >> doesn't >> overlap with ones near you (using this list http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) >> >> Cheers, >> >> David >> >> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I >>> need >>> some help. >>> >>> My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so >>> much. >>> So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com >>> PCMCIA >>> wireless card in it. >>> >>> It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 >>> encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then >>> last >>> week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring >>> network >>> address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. >>> >>> I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook >>> running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain >>> pages >>> didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). >>> >>> So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID >>> and WPA2 >>> key. >>> >>> This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my >>> wifes >>> started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it >>> would then >>> disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the >>> router. >>> >>> This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my >>> network. >>> Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other >>> networks. >>> >>> I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is >>> still >>> working fine, but I still can't see the network. >>> >>> Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing >>> something >>> wrong. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. >>> >>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. >>> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:55 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Street View at Google > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Paul > > Haven't reached out neck of the woods yet. > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:32, Paul Chapman wrote: > >> Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at >> Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going >> along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the >> pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart >> from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by >> Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. >> >> Paul C >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:19:49 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Paul > > Changing channels doesn't affect those connected. You might get a few > seconds outage if the router needs rebooting but your machines should > reconnect automatically with no change to them. > > I use a free program called iStumbler, it shows you all the networks > in range, what channel they are on and what their signal strength is. > It's a life saver at times. > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:46, Paul Chapman wrote: > >> >> On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: >> >>> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >>> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >>> where you are? >> >> Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are >> using? >> Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the >> computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be >> connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel >> change? >> >> Paul C >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:04 +0100 > From: stefan youngs > Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress bar > (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) > > 2 of 2 > > Why is it sending 2 messages? > > Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:10:51 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the server, > as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on > server". I'm just checking this now... > > Paul > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: > >> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress >> bar >> (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) >> >> 2 of 2 >> >> Why is it sending 2 messages? >> >> Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:11:47 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2CC23AF2-3A54-4003-97B2-A5C0229AC3D4 at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I couldn't tell - it went too fast. It's probably something like that. > > Paul > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:10, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the >> server, >> as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on >> server". I'm just checking this now... >> >> Paul >> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: >> >>> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress >>> bar >>> (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) >>> >>> 2 of 2 >>> >>> Why is it sending 2 messages? >>> >>> Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 5 > *********************************** Michele Hurst michelehurst at mac.com From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Fri Jul 3 21:36:43 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:36:43 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] sending a post to NMUG or any email! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71BF1C83-E41F-47C2-9461-A202A44EB2BD@mac.com> Do we have to include all previous posts? Uses up valuable space and is very annoying. On 3 Jul 2009, at 21:33, Michele Hurst wrote: From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 23:50:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 03 Jul 2009 23:50:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] router problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michelle I had thought that too. I wondered if the two machines together had caused some interference. But it doesn't explain why my Mac couldn't even seen the wireless network even when it was just a few feet away from it. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) On Jul 3 2009, Michele Hurst wrote: Probably not much help but I have had this problem when my pc and mac have been too close to each other. If I move my pc well away from my mac it is fine but if they are nearby my pc gives me all the messages about net work probs yet on any other premises it connects without a murmur so I have had to put it down to proximity. All the best Michele On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:11, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 2. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (David Reynolds) > 3. Street View at Google (Paul Chapman) > 4. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Paul Chapman) > 5. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 6. Re: Street View at Google (Simon Royal) > 7. Re: Is My Router Faulty? (Simon Royal) > 8. Odd Mail behaviour (stefan youngs) > 9. Re: Odd Mail behaviour (Paul Durrant) > 10. Re: Odd Mail behaviour (Paul Durrant) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: 03 Jul 2009 09:25:57 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > > I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I > need > some help. > > My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so > much. > So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com PCMCIA > wireless card in it. > > It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 > encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then last > week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring > network > address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. > > I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook > running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain > pages > didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). > > So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID > and WPA2 > key. > > This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my > wifes > started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it > would then > disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. > > This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my > network. > Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other networks. > > I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is > still > working fine, but I still can't see the network. > > Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing > something > wrong. > > Regards > > Simon > > PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:30:38 +0100 > From: David Reynolds > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Simon, > > I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the > channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case where > you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that doesn't overlap > with ones near you (using this list > http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) > > Cheers, > > David > > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I >> need >> some help. >> >> My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so >> much. >> So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com >> PCMCIA >> wireless card in it. >> >> It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 >> encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then >> last >> week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring >> network >> address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. >> >> I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook >> running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain >> pages >> didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). >> >> So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID >> and WPA2 >> key. >> >> This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my >> wifes >> started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it >> would then >> disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. >> >> This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my >> network. >> Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other >> networks. >> >> I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is >> still >> working fine, but I still can't see the network. >> >> Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing >> something >> wrong. >> >> Regards >> >> Simon >> >> PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. >> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:32:34 +0100 > From: Paul Chapman > Subject: [NMUG] Street View at Google > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at > Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going > along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the > pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart > from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by > Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. > > Paul C > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:46:09 +0100 > From: Paul Chapman > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > >> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >> where you are? > > Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are using? > Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the > computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be > connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel > change? > > Paul C > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:11 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <0F602CEE-4DCF-4901-B19B-9AFD69D70637 at simonroyal.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > David > > I think my channel is 6. There is another network at 1 and 10. > > If this was channel interference why would my wife be having lovely > wireless internet today on our network - yet I cannot even see my > network? > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: > >> Simon, >> >> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >> where you are? If it is, I'd try picking another channel that doesn't >> overlap with ones near you (using this list >> http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wlanchannels.html) >> >> Cheers, >> >> David >> >> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I >>> need >>> some help. >>> >>> My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so >>> much. >>> So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com >>> PCMCIA >>> wireless card in it. >>> >>> It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 >>> encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then >>> last >>> week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring >>> network >>> address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. >>> >>> I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook >>> running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain >>> pages >>> didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). >>> >>> So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID >>> and WPA2 >>> key. >>> >>> This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my >>> wifes >>> started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it >>> would then >>> disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the >>> router. >>> >>> This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my >>> network. >>> Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other >>> networks. >>> >>> I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is >>> still >>> working fine, but I still can't see the network. >>> >>> Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing >>> something >>> wrong. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. >>> >>> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. >>> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> -- >> David Reynolds >> david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:17:55 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Street View at Google > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Paul > > Haven't reached out neck of the woods yet. > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:32, Paul Chapman wrote: > >> Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at >> Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going >> along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the >> pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart >> from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by >> Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. >> >> Paul C >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:19:49 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Paul > > Changing channels doesn't affect those connected. You might get a few > seconds outage if the router needs rebooting but your machines should > reconnect automatically with no change to them. > > I use a free program called iStumbler, it shows you all the networks > in range, what channel they are on and what their signal strength is. > It's a life saver at times. > > Simon > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 09:46, Paul Chapman wrote: > >> >> On Jul 3, 2009, at 09:30, David Reynolds wrote: >> >>> I've had issues like this before and it turned out I was sharing the >>> channel with another nearby access point. Is that possibly the case >>> where you are? >> >> Is it possible to see what channels nearby wireless systems are >> using? >> Also if I go to my router settings and change the channel will the >> computers we have that are connected to our home wifi still be >> connected or do they have to be adjusted individually after a channel >> change? >> >> Paul C >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:04 +0100 > From: stefan youngs > Subject: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: <6467CC7E-D665-4E1D-A7EC-12F368698DD1 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress bar > (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) > > 2 of 2 > > Why is it sending 2 messages? > > Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:10:51 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the server, > as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on > server". I'm just checking this now... > > Paul > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: > >> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress >> bar >> (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) >> >> 2 of 2 >> >> Why is it sending 2 messages? >> >> Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:11:47 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Odd Mail behaviour > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <2CC23AF2-3A54-4003-97B2-A5C0229AC3D4 at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I couldn't tell - it went too fast. It's probably something like that. > > Paul > > On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:10, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> It might indicate that it's sending a copy to be stored on the >> server, >> as well as a copy to the recipient, if you have "store sent on >> server". I'm just checking this now... >> >> Paul >> >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 11:00, stefan youngs wrote: >> >>> When I send a single message from Mail, the Mail Activity progress >>> bar >>> (bottom left) reports, (as the mail is going out) >>> >>> 2 of 2 >>> >>> Why is it sending 2 messages? >>> >>> Is this just me, or do others experience the same thing? > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 5 > *********************************** Michele Hurst michelehurst at mac.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 3 23:54:16 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 03 Jul 2009 23:54:16 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Tiscali Rubbish Message-ID: Hi After talking to Tiscali today about my router problems, they proceeded to tell me that my router only has a 6 foot signal radius and that was why I was having connection problems. I thought that was rubbish. I have had no signal problems up until a fortnight ago. But a 6 foot signal is ridiculous. I have had ethernet cables longer than that. Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Fri Jul 3 23:57:11 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:57:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] router problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92931764-00FA-472B-815D-4B559E515E64@mac.com> Mmm, thought that I would include encyclopedia britannica in my reply, but nah, others do it better! Kelvin From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Jul 4 07:36:58 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:36:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Is My Router Faulty? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A4EF88A.3090005@stackyard.org> Simon, Regarding your wireless woes, try dropping back to WPA from WPA2. I have seen devices/drivers have difficulties with WPA2 even when they claim to support it. Try it and see if it makes a difference. Another thing is interference. I have been to a customer who was unable to use wireless at one end of his house due to wide-band interference visible through a Wi-Spy device (a wonderful wireless network diagnostic tool). We suspected his next door neighbour of having some sort of interfering device but they were not on good enough terms to ask about it and short of calling out OfCom, there wasn't much that could be done other than use HomePlug devices which are far less bother than wireless anyway. Things which use the same frequencies as wireless (802.11g anyway) are DECT cordless phones and microwave ovens. Really useful. But your router is probably ailing. You might try taking it back to factory defaults (you may have already tried this). I'm not that familiar with the Siemens units but most routers have some sort of upgrade functionality and if an update is available from the Siemens web site, re-flashing the firmware may do something beneficial, although the fact that the router worked fine for a while and then didn't means it probably won't make a difference. So try getting the dreaded Tiscali to send you a new router. The fact that it worked and now it doesn't and that you get connected for a while after a router reset makes it all smell like a faulty router, especially as we have had recent thunderstorms that are very bad indeed for routers. But if the Tiscali droids think that wireless won't work over 6 feet, than what can one say? This is the downside of using an inexpensive ISP. Call them every day to bother them and they might eventually find that it's cheaper for them to send the new router. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have been having some very odd router and wireless behaviour and I need > some help. > > My wife got hold of another laptop as she hated her Vista laptop so much. > So she picked up one and installed XP Home on it. It has a 3Com PCMCIA > wireless card in it. > > It connected to my Tiscali branded Siemens Gigaset router with WPA2 > encryption enabled no problem. It was fine for about a week. Then last > week, it would see my wireless network but just kept 'acquiring network > address' and wouldn't actual connect properly. > > I tried recycling the router and it made no difference. My PowerBook > running Leopard was also having problems. It would tell me certain pages > didn't exist which I know they did (like Google and my website). > > So I connected via ethernet and changed the wireless network SSID and WPA2 > key. > > This was fine and both machines seemed to be ok for a day. Then my wifes > started 'acquiring network address' again. If it did connect, it would then > disconnect and reconnect every few minutes. So I recycled the router. > > This solved it. However, now my PowerBook will not even see my network. > Nothing comes up in the Airport drop down menu, except other networks. > > I have tried recycling the router again this morning. My wifes is still > working fine, but I still can't see the network. > > Any ideas? This is annoying. Is my router faulty or am I doing something > wrong. > > Regards > > Simon > > PS. Yes I am writing this on my wifes XP machine - yuck. > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Jul 4 09:23:18 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:23:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Street View at Google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A4F1176.4090203@stackyard.org> While driving through Hanworth, I turned a corner and encountered a Google car, flagged down the driver and had a chat. He said that he reckoned that nearly the whole country had already been done but the processing (removing faces and number plates) takes a long time so there were still a lot of places not shown. He didn't know timescales. He said that in Norfolk, the most hostility he had seen were people pointing accusing fingers and scowling (he was based in Essex). He said some cars had had bricks through rear windscreens and one or two drivers had been assaulted but he didn't know of any vandalism of the cameras which we both thought pretty strange considering their extreme prominence. However, he knew of one or two drivers who had driven under very low bridges and torn the camera (and part of the roof) off the car. He said that the idea was to photograph every road in the world but he admitted that that was only the idea and unlikely to come to fruition very soon. So I hope to see my car (and faceless body) on StreetView soon. Ken Paul Chapman wrote: > Not really specific to Macs but I saw a Google car along the A47 at > Blofield yesterday and last week I saw one (maybe the same one) going > along the coast road near Horsey. I wonder how soon they get the > pictures processed and onto the web. Interesting to see that apart > from London, Norwich and the surrounding area is already covered by > Street View more than any other city or area in the UK. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Jul 4 12:03:14 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:03:14 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software Message-ID: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> Whether or not to run virus protection software is a question that often comes up. Currently I don't use any on my Macs, since there hasn't been a virus or worm 'in the wild' that affects Macs for many years. But why not run one anyway, just in case? Because software has bugs - and sometimes false positives can stop your machine functioning. As has recently happened to Windows Machines running MacAfee anti-virus. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/mcafee_false_positive_glitch/ I think that at the moment, running anti-virus software is more risky for Mac users than not running it regards, Paul From steve.forst at virgin.net Sat Jul 4 12:34:29 2009 From: steve.forst at virgin.net (Steve Forster) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:34:29 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] i phone charger In-Reply-To: <25038632846534365821790706928712331277-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks David I?ve actually been loaned a FreeLoader (which can be charged via USB or solar power) and have had a strong recommendations for the i3G Power Sation which is just USB/mains charged. I?ll try out the FreeLoader before I go away and post the results in case anyone is interested. S -- From: David English Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:29:48 +0100 Just following up the posting on I phone charging..... sounds like you got sorted. After trying it out again I am not sure that a power monkey does even a single complete charge on my i phone. Useful none the less. Rgds David From robharrington at mac.com Sat Jul 4 15:02:06 2009 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:02:06 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] i phone charger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Got one - I like showing the design to people and it does work. Quite slow for the solar end, but if you have to make that one call on the mountain top........... Rob Harrington On 4 Jul 2009, at 12:34, Steve Forster wrote: > Thanks David > > I?ve actually been loaned a FreeLoader (which can be charged via > USB or > solar power) and have had a strong recommendations for the i3G > Power Sation > which is just USB/mains charged. > > I?ll try out the FreeLoader before I go away and post the results > in case > anyone is interested. > > S > -- > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Jul 4 16:12:17 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:12:17 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software In-Reply-To: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> Paul, Yes, I agree completely. My theory is that, even with a Windows PC, if you are sensible and cautious, bordering on paranoid, you can get away without any anti-virus software. If you are NOT sensible and cautious, then nothing will save you. I see this again and again where machines with up-to-date McAfee or Norton are infected and machines with no anti-malware installed are not. Different user profiles. Regarding your second point about bugs.... Goodness Gracious Me! Do they ever have bugs!!! My favourite is the firewall built into many anti-virus products which frequently does a "SkyNet" and turns against its owner - blocking access to the Internet. Sometimes, this happens after a frightening message pops up saying that a process on the machine is trying to access the Internet and it could be something evil which is going to take over the machine, steal credit card numbers, bank accounts, blah, blah, blah. It gives the path of the potential threat (IE or Firefox) and then asks if the user wants to block or allow access. Well, nobody stops to figure out the path which is gobbledegook to most people and they just click "Block" because they're utterly terrified by this point. So much for web browsing after that. So no, I don't use anti-virus on my mac either. I do use NOD32 from ESET on my PCs. It appears to be one of the "least horrible" and has no firewall to get in the way. The built-in Windows firewall is perfectly adequate especially as the router has its own firewall. The story about McAfee comes as no surprise. Virtually every machine I have seen with McAfee has been infected if the user is a bit adventurous. Most machines I see with Norton are spending most of their system resources running Norton, or else Norton is broken and is using up clock cycles while providing no protection. Excellent. Isn't marketing a wonderful thing? Do I sound cynical? Ken Paul Durrant wrote: > Whether or not to run virus protection software is a question that > often comes up. Currently I don't use any on my Macs, since there > hasn't been a virus or worm 'in the wild' that affects Macs for many > years. > > But why not run one anyway, just in case? Because software has bugs - > and sometimes false positives can stop your machine functioning. As > has recently happened to Windows Machines running MacAfee anti-virus. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/mcafee_false_positive_glitch/ > > I think that at the moment, running anti-virus software is more risky > for Mac users than not running it > > regards, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From macman at f2s.com Sat Jul 4 17:19:23 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:19:23 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software In-Reply-To: <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> Message-ID: I was listening to Leo Laporte this morning, and he had a guy phone in who had completely wiped his PC HD and reinstalled Windows without the usual dodgy apps, only to find on running AVG that it reported an infection. Probably a false positive, but it shows how unreliable even trusted AV software can be. A friend of mine who is not at all tech savvy bought himself an HP laptop preloaded with a Norton trial, which screwed the whole machine as soon as the 30 days were up, and no matter what we tried, we couldn't completely remove it - took a reinstall to get it functioning properly again .... It was mentioned in passing, though, that Norton have finally released a barebones version on which they have removed much of the bloat, but like you Ken, I think NOD32 is about the best of the bunch. I've never had any AV on any of our Macs - I subscribe to the old adage that the most vulnerable component of the system is the person sitting at the keyboard, and while my curiosity may occasionally be aroused by an email or popup, I tend to err on the side of caution! Robbie On 4 Jul 2009, at 16:12, Ken Hamer wrote: Paul, Yes, I agree completely. My theory is that, even with a Windows PC, if you are sensible and cautious, bordering on paranoid, you can get away without any anti-virus software. If you are NOT sensible and cautious, then nothing will save you. So no, I don't use anti-virus on my mac either. I do use NOD32 from ESET on my PCs. It appears to be one of the "least horrible" and has no firewall to get in the way. The built-in Windows firewall is perfectly adequate especially as the router has its own firewall. Ken From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Sat Jul 4 17:45:47 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:45:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Richard Many thanks for your help. I haven't been able to succeed with Alan's suggestions so will now go home and try yours! No-one else has come up with any ideas so I guess I shall have to call the doctor is this doesn't work!! Many thanks again. All the best Jules On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Richard Nevill wrote: > First thing to try is a Safe Mode boot - this sometimes lets the Mac > do a bit of housekeeping which clears the pipes out. > > Try it, then afterwards immediately shut down the machine and start > it up again. > > > > Here are Apple's instructions for a Safe Mode boot: > > ************ > > " To start up into Safe Mode (to Safe Boot), do this: > > 1. Be sure the computer is shut down. > 2. Press the power button. > 3. Immediately after you hear the startup tone, hold the Shift > key. The Shift key should be held as soon as possible after the > startup tone but not before. > 4. Release the Shift key when you see the gray Apple icon and the > progress indicator (looks like a spinning gear). > > During startup in Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you will see "Safe Boot" on > the login window, which appears even if you normally log in > automatically. > > During startup in Mac OS X 10.2 through 10.3.9, you will see "Safe > Boot" on the Mac OS X startup screen. > > To leave Safe Mode in any version of Mac OS X, restart the computer > normally, without holding any keys during startup. " > > ************* > > If you find your update hasn't been completed, you can download the > latest Combined Updater .dmg image file from Apple - sometimes the > Combined Updaters work where automatic updates fail. > > > Richard. > > > > On 30 Jun 2009, at 21:49, Jules Slaughter wrote: > > > Dear Richard > > > > Tiger on imac, 3 years old. It came up and said software updates > > available > > for iphotos etc so,for once, I thought I would do it and then it did 3 > > applications and then crashed. > > > > best regards > > Jules > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Richard Nevill > > wrote: > > > >> What machine do you have and what software were you updating? > >> > >> The good news is that these sort of problems are usually just little > >> glitches - we should be able to help. > >> > >> Richard. > >> > >> > >> On 30 Jun 2009, at 21:28, Jules Slaughter wrote: > >> > >>> Dear All > >>> > >>> My Mac has 'crashed' in as much as it comes on with the Apple logo > >>> and the > >>> whirling sign but nothing else. Do I need to callthe repair man? > >>> I;m using > >>> a friend's PC so finding it frustrating as I don't know what to do. > >>> I was > >>> updating software from Apple when it said the application had > >>> stopped > >>> unexpectedly and been removed to trash' or words to that effect. It > >>> told me > >>> to restart and then nothing has happened. > >>> > >>> Hopefully someone will tell me some good news! > >>> > >>> Many thanks > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jules > >>> > >>> CalmClasses & Therapies > >>> to improve your health. > >>> > >>> My business works on referrals. > >>> If you like what I do, please tell others. > >>> If not, please tell me. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> NMUG mailing list > >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk > >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > >> Richard Nevill > >> ricnev at mac.com > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NMUG mailing list > >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk > >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jules > > > > CalmClasses & Therapies > > to improve your health. > > > > My business works on referrals. > > If you like what I do, please tell others. > > If not, please tell me. > > _______________________________________________ > > NMUG mailing list > > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > Richard Nevill > ricnev at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Sat Jul 4 19:31:58 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:31:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software In-Reply-To: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <3ED786E5-E0F4-4F69-BB27-85A04AD72C59@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> An interesting debate re anti-virus software. I reply on the strength of the Mac and keeping up to date as my protection. My e-mail sorts the junk and I dump this without hesitation. I did have Norton on an earlier Mac and that caused more problems than a little. I simply soldiered on regardless of the messages that were way over the top when related to what had actually happened. Application of sense in what to open etc is the way to go. I only touch things that I want, need or expect to arrive in my mail. The rest is binned. So far so good! Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 4 Jul 2009, at 12:03, Paul Durrant wrote: > Whether or not to run virus protection software is a question that > often comes up. Currently I don't use any on my Macs, since there > hasn't been a virus or worm 'in the wild' that affects Macs for many > years. > > But why not run one anyway, just in case? Because software has bugs - > and sometimes false positives can stop your machine functioning. As > has recently happened to Windows Machines running MacAfee anti-virus. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/mcafee_false_positive_glitch/ > > I think that at the moment, running anti-virus software is more risky > for Mac users than not running it > > regards, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Jul 5 01:10:58 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:10:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software In-Reply-To: <3ED786E5-E0F4-4F69-BB27-85A04AD72C59@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <3ED786E5-E0F4-4F69-BB27-85A04AD72C59@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A4FEF92.8030204@stackyard.org> Not much of a debate - we all seem to agree. But please remember that bad stuff doesn't just arrive by email. The vectors are many and varied. Infected web sites are a favourite as are downloads and browser plugins. Sensible people just say no. As you say.. application of sense is the way to go. Michael Woodhouse wrote: > An interesting debate re anti-virus software. I reply on the strength > of the Mac and keeping up to date as my protection. My e-mail sorts > the junk and I dump this without hesitation. > > I did have Norton on an earlier Mac and that caused more problems than > a little. I simply soldiered on regardless of the messages that were > way over the top when related to what had actually happened. > > Application of sense in what to open etc is the way to go. I only > touch things that I want, need or expect to arrive in my mail. The > rest is binned. > > So far so good! > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > On 4 Jul 2009, at 12:03, Paul Durrant wrote: > > >> Whether or not to run virus protection software is a question that >> often comes up. Currently I don't use any on my Macs, since there >> hasn't been a virus or worm 'in the wild' that affects Macs for many >> years. >> >> But why not run one anyway, just in case? Because software has bugs - >> and sometimes false positives can stop your machine functioning. As >> has recently happened to Windows Machines running MacAfee anti-virus. >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/mcafee_false_positive_glitch/ >> >> I think that at the moment, running anti-virus software is more risky >> for Mac users than not running it >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sun Jul 5 06:58:06 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 06:58:06 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie exchange Message-ID: Some time ago when I plugged in a new LaCie external disk, in addition to the Hard disk icon a separate icon appeared on the desktop labelled 'LaCie Exchange' This partition contains 28.44 GB. What is this and how can I add it back to the LaCie disk? Nathan From macman at f2s.com Sun Jul 5 07:11:10 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 07:11:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie exchange In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FACC29F-545A-49F1-BF9F-AB484A7E0CE7@f2s.com> Looks like you followed the prompts on first connecting Nat, and chose to add a Windows partition - you should be able to reformat the whole disk as Mac, but will need to copy the data you wish to keep to another drive before you do it, then copy back afterwards ... http://www.lacie.com/support/faq/faq.htm?faqid=10551 I don't recall doing anything when mine was new - it was just plug & play: maybe depends where you bought it ...... Hope this helps Robbie On 5 Jul 2009, at 06:58, Nathan Crosby wrote: Some time ago when I plugged in a new LaCie external disk, in addition to the Hard disk icon a separate icon appeared on the desktop labelled 'LaCie Exchange' This partition contains 28.44 GB. What is this and how can I add it back to the LaCie disk? Nathan _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sun Jul 5 07:17:43 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 07:17:43 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie exchange In-Reply-To: <8FACC29F-545A-49F1-BF9F-AB484A7E0CE7@f2s.com> References: <8FACC29F-545A-49F1-BF9F-AB484A7E0CE7@f2s.com> Message-ID: <640EBBDD-D5D9-4AB6-A89F-BC094E3784FD@virgin.net> Thanks Robbie, I don't recall and don't think I would have asked, for a windows partition! I suppose if I ever get Windows I will have somewhere to dump the viruses. regards Nathan On 5 Jul 2009, at 07:11, Robbie Murray wrote: > Looks like you followed the prompts on first connecting Nat, and chose > to add a Windows partition - you should be able to reformat the whole > disk as Mac, but will need to copy the data you wish to keep to > another drive before you do it, then copy back afterwards ... > > http://www.lacie.com/support/faq/faq.htm?faqid=10551 > > I don't recall doing anything when mine was new - it was just plug & > play: maybe depends where you bought it ...... > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > > On 5 Jul 2009, at 06:58, Nathan Crosby wrote: > > Some time ago when I plugged in a new LaCie external disk, in addition > to the Hard disk icon a separate icon appeared on the desktop labelled > 'LaCie Exchange' > This partition contains 28.44 GB. What is this and how can I add it > back to the LaCie disk? > > Nathan > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sun Jul 5 08:27:30 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:27:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie exchange In-Reply-To: <640EBBDD-D5D9-4AB6-A89F-BC094E3784FD@virgin.net> References: <8FACC29F-545A-49F1-BF9F-AB484A7E0CE7@f2s.com> <640EBBDD-D5D9-4AB6-A89F-BC094E3784FD@virgin.net> Message-ID: <3E956F44-ADDE-4679-B72C-F05832DD1936@f2s.com> It's a fair amount of valuable storage lying unused - I would reformat! May be possible to resize, but I'll leave that to others to answer .... Robbie On 5 Jul 2009, at 07:17, Nathan Crosby wrote: Thanks Robbie, I don't recall and don't think I would have asked, for a windows partition! I suppose if I ever get Windows I will have somewhere to dump the viruses. regards Nathan On 5 Jul 2009, at 07:11, Robbie Murray wrote: > Looks like you followed the prompts on first connecting Nat, and chose > to add a Windows partition - you should be able to reformat the whole > disk as Mac, but will need to copy the data you wish to keep to > another drive before you do it, then copy back afterwards ... > > http://www.lacie.com/support/faq/faq.htm?faqid=10551 > > I don't recall doing anything when mine was new - it was just plug & > play: maybe depends where you bought it ...... > > Hope this helps > > Robbie > > > > On 5 Jul 2009, at 06:58, Nathan Crosby wrote: > > Some time ago when I plugged in a new LaCie external disk, in addition > to the Hard disk icon a separate icon appeared on the desktop labelled > 'LaCie Exchange' > This partition contains 28.44 GB. What is this and how can I add it > back to the LaCie disk? > > Nathan > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Jul 5 12:03:11 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (=?us-ascii?B?U2ltb24gUm95YWw=?=) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:03:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] LaCie exchange Message-ID: <1246791791062@mail_simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. iPartition can do non destructive partitioning and I have used it many times successfully. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia 6111) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Jul 5 12:03:17 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (=?us-ascii?B?U2ltb24gUm95YWw=?=) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:03:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection software Message-ID: <1246791797138@mail_simonroyal.co.uk> Paul. My experience of anti virus on the Mac is that the software actually causes more problems than anything else. As there are no threats yet as you have said it seems pointless at present, except to prevent you passing anything on to windows users. Simon --- visit http://www.simonroyal.co.uk (sent using Nokia 6111) From jeremyknight at mac.com Sun Jul 5 11:27:11 2009 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:27:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] photo editing programme In-Reply-To: <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> Good Morning All, I need an open share photo editing programme for my wife to crop resize and lighten/darken etc photos on her Imac. I have seen something called gimp do members have any recommendations of open share software or comments about gimp please? thanks jeremy From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Sun Jul 5 11:52:18 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:52:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] photo editing programme In-Reply-To: <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> Message-ID: I use Photoshop Elements. I know that it costs but it does everything that you will ever need. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than the full house version. I've been using it for sometime and not found anything missing. I bought my version last year. Amazon had a very cheap deal going, don't know what the score is now. Buy it now before Adobe realise what they have done! Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 5 Jul 2009, at 11:27, jeremy knight wrote: > Good Morning All, > I need an open share photo editing programme for my wife to crop > resize and lighten/darken etc photos on her Imac. > I have seen something called gimp do members have any recommendations > of open share software or comments about gimp please? > thanks > jeremy > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Jul 5 13:47:04 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:47:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection Message-ID: <265834B9-33C7-4BC5-8D98-222B8DBBA5CA@gmail.com> Recent mailings on this subject reveal to me a level of complacency which is ill placed, in my opinion. ID theft and illegal internet financial transactions form a multi billion dollar industry, and here's the rub, the chances of getting caught are vanishingly small compared to walking into the Post Office with a sawn off shotgun, and even when you ARE caught the chance of a successful prosecution is really, really tiny. No wonder the field attracts hundreds of thousands of clever blackhats. Firstly as to Windows, the idea that running an anti virus regime is not worthwhile because it can't guarantee to catch everything is the application of false logic to a serious threat. it's like saying we shouldn't build walls around prisons because we can't guarantee nobody will ever escape. The wall keeps lots of people inside. The fact that virus threats manage to penetrate those AV measures in place proves, to my way of thinking, just how dangerous the threat really is and argues strongly for a combination of AV protection and user caution. On the latter front however, don't underestimate the cunning of the virus creators: a recent one embedded malicious code into the QuickTime track that permitted you to add hyperlinks. Who would have imagined running a movie might be a threat?? (Apple killed that one quickly, glad to say) I don;t think user caution will really protect you unless you really restirct your browsing activity to a bare minimum. In terms of OSX, this is indeed a more difficult nut to crack for virus makers than the sieve-like Windows environment, but of course, it's not impossible to break through the OS. The fact more people haven't tried is probably the result of the superior security of Unix, our small market share, and the much easier task presented by Windows. If and when Microsoft ditch Windows and move to a more resistant infrastructure for their OS, we will become a more attractive target, especially as OSX market share increases. I think serious penetrations of OSX will be seen on mobile devices since Apple has been most successful in seizing some 65% of the mobile browsing market already via iPhone and iPod Touch. And of course mobile users are likely to pay less attention to their onscreen activity than those sitting at desks, what with juggling the iPhone, a cup of coffee and driving, meaning they are more likely to fall for a scam. What I would like to see is Apple itself setting up an internal group, operating outside the existing OSX/Safari/iPhone structures and reporting direct to Jobs, charged with the mission of breaking into OSX, and then building traps to stop the break-in. They should have access to all Apple's source code, which would give them an enormous advantage over outside coders. The end result should be an even more virus resistant OSX. I think it's the manufacturer's problem to protect us from malicious use of the products they sell us, insofar as is possible. Obviously user stupidity in revealing passwords etc is outside this remit. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sun Jul 5 15:37:30 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:37:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] photo editing programme In-Reply-To: <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> Message-ID: <4A50BAAA.4020203@stackyard.org> As previously mentioned here, there is indeed GIMP which is a full-featured photo editing program as well as an offshoot of it which has been configured to look just like Adobe Photoshop. These are freely available from: http://www.gimp.org/ (ordinary GIMP) and http://www.gimpshop.com/ (GIMPshop - looks like PhotoShop) Happy editing. Ken jeremy knight wrote: > Good Morning All, > I need an open share photo editing programme for my wife to crop > resize and lighten/darken etc photos on her Imac. > I have seen something called gimp do members have any recommendations > of open share software or comments about gimp please? > thanks > jeremy > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From fishscholar at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 23:19:16 2009 From: fishscholar at gmail.com (Fish Cheung) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:19:16 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Lost Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation DVD Message-ID: Hi, I've just bought a new MacBook Pro in Canada but I forgot to bring the Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation disc with me when I moved from Canada to the UK. Without the installation disc, I can't install Window XP on my MacBook Pro. Do you know whether it's possible for me to get a copy from Apple? and how? Or do i need to buy a new one? Your reply will be appreciated. Vicky From macman at f2s.com Sun Jul 5 23:47:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:47:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Lost Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation DVD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unless you're planning to use Boot Camp, why would you need an OSX disk to install Windows? if it's a new Macbook Pro, surely it has OSX 10.5 installed, so all you need is a copy of Windows and a virtualisation programme such as Parallels, VMware Fusion or Virtual Box (which is free and downloadable). Even Windows 7 is free if you're quick enough .... Robbie On 5 Jul 2009, at 23:19, Fish Cheung wrote: Hi, I've just bought a new MacBook Pro in Canada but I forgot to bring the Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation disc with me when I moved from Canada to the UK. Without the installation disc, I can't install Window XP on my MacBook Pro. Do you know whether it's possible for me to get a copy from Apple? and how? Or do i need to buy a new one? Your reply will be appreciated. Vicky _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 6 08:17:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:17:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Lost Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation DVD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd try contacting Apple Support. Since it's a new MacBook Pro that came with Mac OS X 10.5.7, they may be able to help with a new disk set. Worth a try. web: https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do phone: 0870 876 0753 regards, Paul On 5 Jul 2009, at 23:19, Fish Cheung wrote: > Hi, > > I've just bought a new MacBook Pro in Canada but I forgot to bring the > Mac OS X 10.5.7 installation disc with me when I moved from Canada to > the UK. Without the installation disc, I can't install Window XP on my > MacBook Pro. > > Do you know whether it's possible for me to get a copy from Apple? and > how? Or do i need to buy a new one? Your reply will be appreciated. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 10:41:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:41:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] photo editing programme In-Reply-To: References: <5D167D67-63FB-4209-9AA8-A314AFF6947A@durrant.co.uk> <4A4F7151.3030006@stackyard.org> <091AF92A-CC31-4A49-8546-CC0A88B5A72E@mac.com> Message-ID: <15C7A16B-8F68-4790-A205-CB222A23C98C@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi If it is free you are looking for then GIMP is great. If it is free and simple (not sure if it meets your wifes needs), then SeaShore is good. Simon On 5 Jul 2009, at 11:52, Michael Woodhouse wrote: > I use Photoshop Elements. I know that it costs but it does everything > that you will ever need. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than the full > house version. I've been using it for sometime and not found anything > missing. I bought my version last year. Amazon had a very cheap deal > going, don't know what the score is now. > > Buy it now before Adobe realise what they have done! > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > On 5 Jul 2009, at 11:27, jeremy knight wrote: > >> Good Morning All, >> I need an open share photo editing programme for my wife to crop >> resize and lighten/darken etc photos on her Imac. >> I have seen something called gimp do members have any recommendations >> of open share software or comments about gimp please? >> thanks >> jeremy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 10:46:57 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:46:57 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Virus Protection In-Reply-To: <265834B9-33C7-4BC5-8D98-222B8DBBA5CA@gmail.com> References: <265834B9-33C7-4BC5-8D98-222B8DBBA5CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stefan Agreed. Running Windows without virus protection is like handing out your credit card to people in the street. I have installed Windows and been infected without about 30 minutes. Anti-Virus and Anti-Spy is essential for Windows. On your point that it is up to the manufacturer, Microsoft are to release a free anti-virus called Morro in with their products something that is great but I think they will fall into the anti- monopoly trap as they have done before. The point about Apple should employ people to break into OSX is a great idea. Simon On 5 Jul 2009, at 13:47, stefan youngs wrote: > Recent mailings on this subject reveal to me a level of complacency > which is ill placed, in my opinion. ID theft and illegal internet > financial transactions form a multi billion dollar industry, and > here's the rub, the chances of getting caught are vanishingly small > compared to walking into the Post Office with a sawn off shotgun, and > even when you ARE caught the chance of a successful prosecution is > really, really tiny. No wonder the field attracts hundreds of > thousands of clever blackhats. > > Firstly as to Windows, the idea that running an anti virus regime is > not worthwhile because it can't guarantee to catch everything is the > application of false logic to a serious threat. it's like saying we > shouldn't build walls around prisons because we can't guarantee nobody > will ever escape. The wall keeps lots of people inside. > > The fact that virus threats manage to penetrate those AV measures in > place proves, to my way of thinking, just how dangerous the threat > really is and argues strongly for a combination of AV protection and > user caution. On the latter front however, don't underestimate the > cunning of the virus creators: a recent one embedded malicious code > into the QuickTime track that permitted you to add hyperlinks. Who > would have imagined running a movie might be a threat?? (Apple killed > that one quickly, glad to say) I don;t think user caution will really > protect you unless you really restirct your browsing activity to a > bare minimum. > > In terms of OSX, this is indeed a more difficult nut to crack for > virus makers than the sieve-like Windows environment, but of course, > it's not impossible to break through the OS. The fact more people > haven't tried is probably the result of the superior security of Unix, > our small market share, and the much easier task presented by Windows. > If and when Microsoft ditch Windows and move to a more resistant > infrastructure for their OS, we will become a more attractive target, > especially as OSX market share increases. > > I think serious penetrations of OSX will be seen on mobile devices > since Apple has been most successful in seizing some 65% of the mobile > browsing market already via iPhone and iPod Touch. And of course > mobile users are likely to pay less attention to their onscreen > activity than those sitting at desks, what with juggling the iPhone, a > cup of coffee and driving, meaning they are more likely to fall for a > scam. > > What I would like to see is Apple itself setting up an internal group, > operating outside the existing OSX/Safari/iPhone structures and > reporting direct to Jobs, charged with the mission of breaking into > OSX, and then building traps to stop the break-in. They should have > access to all Apple's source code, which would give them an enormous > advantage over outside coders. The end result should be an even more > virus resistant OSX. > > I think it's the manufacturer's problem to protect us from malicious > use of the products they sell us, insofar as is possible. Obviously > user stupidity in revealing passwords etc is outside this remit. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 11:09:05 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:09:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness Message-ID: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi As you all know I have been having some odd router problems with my Tiscali supplied Siemens Gigaset. 1. First of all my wifes XP laptop wouldn't connect to it - it just kept saying 'acquiring network address'. 2. I removed the security from the network, but this made no difference. 3. I changed the SSID and WPA key. This solved it, but it kept dropping and reconnecting. 3. I recycled the router and this solved her connection issues, but a day later my PowerBook G4 refused to see it (even though it had connected to the newly set up network). 4. I rang Tiscali and they tried to tell me it was a computer problem and that my router only has a 6 foot signal radius. Any distance over that and I would get a very weak signal and this is the reason for my connection issues, even though I have had the router for 11 months sitting in the same place, connected the same and with the computers in the same place - and no trouble before. 5. I was promised a call back in Saturday and Sunday, which never appeared, what a surprise. 6. Last night I tried my PSP and it connected to the router fine - but it did interfere with my wifes XP laptop for a few minutes. 7. This morning my PowerBook decided to see the network and connected fine. So what gives. Is it the router that is faulty? Tiscali tech support are useless and don't even offer Mac support. They tried to tell me it was my computer that was broken but, I know neither of them are. Is it possible for one wireless device to interfere with another wireless device? It sounds odd, but my wifes laptop works fine when no other device is connected wirelessly. Last night as soon as I connected my PSP to the network within two minutes both had lost connection and then reconnected. Before I changed the wireless settings my PowerBook had no problems, but my wifes laptop would keep disconnecting and reconnecting - hence the reason for resetting up the network. Then, when I made sure hers was working my PowerBook wouldn't even see the network let alone join it. Right now we have both on and working fine (fingers crossed), but it did take yet another recycle of the router this morning for my PowerBook to see the network for the first time in three days. As you can imagine I am getting quite annoyed and irritated. It has worked fine for about 11 months without too many problems, so I know Tiscali are talking rubbish. The radius of the router is actually pretty good, I have had about 80 foot out if it in my garden so I know they are wrong. There are no devices in my house interfering with the signal and there are only two other networks in range (both HomeHub networks), one on channel 1 and one of channel 10. My network is on channel 6. Any further help would be appreciated, before I ring up Tiscali and fly off the handle at them. If it is one thing I hate it is tech support who have no clue about what they are talking about. It is not even a free telephone number. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Jul 6 11:16:50 2009 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:16:50 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness In-Reply-To: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: On 6 Jul 2009, at 11:09, Simon Royal wrote: > There are no devices in my house interfering with the signal and there > are only two other networks in range (both HomeHub networks), one on > channel 1 and one of channel 10. My network is on channel 6. If you look at the diagram I sent you last week, channel 10 overlaps with channel 6, so there is still a chance of interference and it is still worth trying a different channel. Also, have you thought of other interference? Cordless phones, microwaves, bluetooth - there is a lot of things that could interfere with WiFi - none of which are Tiscali's fault. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 11:46:11 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:46:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness In-Reply-To: References: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: David Interesting. Since the router reboot this morning - everything seems to be playing ok. My router is set to automatic channel selection. It is now on channel 8. Simon On 6 Jul 2009, at 11:16, David Reynolds wrote: > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 11:09, Simon Royal wrote: > >> There are no devices in my house interfering with the signal and >> there >> are only two other networks in range (both HomeHub networks), one on >> channel 1 and one of channel 10. My network is on channel 6. > > > If you look at the diagram I sent you last week, channel 10 overlaps > with channel 6, so there is still a chance of interference and it is > still worth trying a different channel. > > Also, have you thought of other interference? Cordless phones, > microwaves, bluetooth - there is a lot of things that could interfere > with WiFi - none of which are Tiscali's fault. > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Jul 6 12:40:08 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:40:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Tiscali Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My first point of inspection would be the router, on the basis that the computers were working fine, do so on their own, but don't when more than one is connected. Router/modems are generally rather poorly made, especially the 'free' ones that come with broadband 'service'. You could identify the router as the cause if you replaced the router and found everything was restored to normal. Putting the Tiscali router back and seeing the problem reappear would surely tell you all you need to know. I originally installed Tiscali myself but my first call to them a few minutes after installation revealed a no-Mac-support policy, which resulted in immediate cancellation. Since that time I have been plagued by them for payment which of course is not owed. I've sent them my bill for 1000 quid for dealing with their inane 'Customer Service' on this issue which seems to have shut them up, for now. Tiscali is a hopeless company which I truly hope will disappear up its own network. I have a Linksys router/modem you could borrow for your trial if you don't have a spare unit From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 13:05:01 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:05:01 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Simon's Tiscali Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stefan Thank you for the offer. I think the problem is channel related, after a reboot this morning everything seems to be working fine. My PowerBook has seen the network for the first time in 3 days and I have been connected for about 4 hours now without any hitches. Writing this email I noticed my wifes XP laptop just dropped connection and then rejoined. I am able to give notice on my Tiscali contract now, so I shall be doing so as soon as I have settled on a new provider. Goodbye Tiscali. Simon On 6 Jul 2009, at 12:40, stefan youngs wrote: > > > My first point of inspection would be the router, on the basis that > the computers were working fine, do so on their own, but don't when > more than one is connected. Router/modems are generally rather poorly > made, especially the 'free' ones that come with broadband 'service'. > > You could identify the router as the cause if you replaced the router > and found everything was restored to normal. Putting the Tiscali > router back and seeing the problem reappear would surely tell you all > you need to know. > > I originally installed Tiscali myself but my first call to them a few > minutes after installation revealed a no-Mac-support policy, which > resulted in immediate cancellation. Since that time I have been > plagued by them for payment which of course is not owed. I've sent > them my bill for 1000 quid for dealing with their inane 'Customer > Service' on this issue which seems to have shut them up, for now. > > Tiscali is a hopeless company which I truly hope will disappear up its > own network. > > I have a Linksys router/modem you could borrow for your trial if you > don't have a spare unit > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 13:12:34 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:12:34 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Router Recommendations Message-ID: <93A77F79-9F0C-46FD-A3B8-9A67E867CBB2@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I am looking for a new ISP and also a new router. Any recommendations on what router to go for? I have had a DLink in the past and sold it to a friend (it was a cable one and I moved to ADSL) and it is still going now - very reliable. I have had a Thomson Speedtouch, which was rubbish. It crashed every day and needed rebooting. I have had a Netgear which never let me down, but it was a cable router so when I moved it was no good to me. I have a Siemes (Tiscali branded) as you know, which give it it's dues has been ok, but is playing up now. I have heard bad things about new Netgear models so thought I would ask you lot. I don't need anything new or fancy. I don't need wireless N. A simple all-in-one modem and router, with wireless and built in 10/100 ports will be fine. The option of adding a hard drive to it so I can network a drive would be handy but not essential. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From whitedcs at onetel.com Mon Jul 6 13:14:38 2009 From: whitedcs at onetel.com (David White) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:14:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Reformatting memory sticks etc Message-ID: <170908E2-D100-4B2D-AAED-A4AD2239A891@onetel.com> Dear Paul I'm not sure I know how to reply to particular submissions, but anyway. My understanding about clearing space on memory sticks (and I assume any drive) is that the Mac (unlike PCs) maintains the space for the file after you move a file to trash so that you can recover it should you wish back to the memory stick. Only after you clear the trash can of this file does the space get freed up. So, to create the space on the memory stick, trash the files and then empty the trash can of this file. The space on the memory stick is reserved by having the filename with a full stop as the first character. e.g. .filename.ext David White From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 6 13:41:44 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:41:44 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Reformatting memory sticks etc In-Reply-To: <170908E2-D100-4B2D-AAED-A4AD2239A891@onetel.com> References: <170908E2-D100-4B2D-AAED-A4AD2239A891@onetel.com> Message-ID: <8F0515E5-616D-4437-BAFB-274DDBDFB263@durrant.co.uk> Just send your message - there's no real threading of messages so it's usualyto quote (the relevant bits!) of the original message. Your understanding is right in concept, but not detail. The trash is actually a set of folders, one per volume, that are normally invisible as individual folders. When you delete a file in the Finder, it gets moved (not copied) to the trash folder of the volume that contains the file. Only when you empty the trash does the file actually get deleted, and the space made available for new files. Filenames with the full stop as the first character on memory sticks are usually some Mac-specific information and data that belong to the file that can't be stored as part of the file on FAT32 formatted volumes. The Finder hides files starting with a full stop, and makes the file without and the file with the full stop act as if they were a single file. Only on other systems or by using the command line will you actually see the files with the full stop . In the standard finder there's no way to only empty the trash on a specific volume, e.g. the memory stick you're about to eject. there are several third-party applications that will allow this. regards, Paul On 6 Jul 2009, at 13:14, David White wrote: > I'm not sure I know how to reply to particular submissions, but > anyway. > > My understanding about clearing space on memory sticks (and I assume > any drive) is that the Mac (unlike PCs) maintains the space for the > file after you move a file to trash so that you can recover it should > you wish back to the memory stick. Only after you clear the trash can > of this file does the space get freed up. > > So, to create the space on the memory stick, trash the files and then > empty the trash can of this file. > > The space on the memory stick is reserved by having the filename with > a full stop as the first character. > > e.g. > > .filename.ext From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Mon Jul 6 15:49:04 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (djr.massy at ntlworld.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:49:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] New monitor problem Message-ID: <20090706154904.ZYX5G.118629.root@web02-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Dear NMUG members, I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer agreed to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of these problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. Just a bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. Computer: Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. Monitor: Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution 1920 x 1200 pixels. I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow another monitor from a friend if need be. I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4455 ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope with resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need a new card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set-up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone advise me which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to install and would I have to uninstall any existing software belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the laptop? I'd be most grateful for some help. Jim. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 6 16:42:58 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:42:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness In-Reply-To: References: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: David I have spoken to Tiscali again today - and I got someone who is a bit more knowledgeable than the moron I got on Friday. The moron on Friday told me my connection issues were because I was more than 6 foot away from the router. He suggested turning off auto-channel selection and putting it to fixed channel. I am promised a call back tomorrow to see if this solved the problem. We will see. Simon On 6 Jul 2009, at 11:16, David Reynolds wrote: > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 11:09, Simon Royal wrote: > >> There are no devices in my house interfering with the signal and >> there >> are only two other networks in range (both HomeHub networks), one on >> channel 1 and one of channel 10. My network is on channel 6. > > > If you look at the diagram I sent you last week, channel 10 overlaps > with channel 6, so there is still a chance of interference and it is > still worth trying a different channel. > > Also, have you thought of other interference? Cordless phones, > microwaves, bluetooth - there is a lot of things that could interfere > with WiFi - none of which are Tiscali's fault. > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 6 17:31:10 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] New monitor problem In-Reply-To: <20090706154904.ZYX5G.118629.root@web02-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> References: <20090706154904.ZYX5G.118629.root@web02-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: <6CFCD6FE-2439-4762-8D9C-9E0C4A63BB7A@durrant.co.uk> The DVI spec itself handles 1920x1200 at 60Hz on a single link DVI. The Radeo 9600 Pro Graphics card supports this, and also does dual- link DVI. See http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600propcmac/specs.html So you shouldn't need a new video card. The Iiyama E2607WS also accepts 1920x1200 on DVI, so it ought to work. Unless, of course, you're trying to connect up with a VGA cable using the DVI-VGA adapter. Do make sure you're using a DVI-DVI cable for the connection. Here's a random web site that has a picture of the connector ends: http://store.snapstream.com/dvi-dvi.html regards, Paul On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:49, wrote: > Dear NMUG members, > > I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was > compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to > get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer agreed > to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of these > problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. Just a > bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. > First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. > > Computer: > > Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of > disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. > > Monitor: > > Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution 1920 x > 1200 pixels. > > I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection > and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow > another monitor from a friend if need be. > > I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible > with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4455 > ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope with > resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need a new > card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is > just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set- > up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone advise me > which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 > at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to > install and would I have to uninstall any existing software > belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the laptop? > > I'd be most grateful for some help. From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Mon Jul 6 20:25:29 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:29 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant Message-ID: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and some of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail Mailboxes. I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items previously transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there a "Help" section for this. Thanks for any help/ Anthony From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 6 21:11:58 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:11:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: If you did the transfer on first startup of the MacBook I would have expected no problems with the Mail (or anything else). I have read that there can be some problems if you first set up the new machine with a user account of the same name as the old machine and then try to run Migration Assistant. In either case, I'd suggest (1) create an admin user account on the new MacBook (2) delete the other user account on the new MacBook. (3) log in as the new Admin account and run Migration Assistant again. I think non-user folder stuff like applications won't get copied again if they've already been copied. regards, Paul On 6 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: > I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 > Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and some > of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail > Mailboxes. > > I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want > but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items previously > transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there > a "Help" section for this. From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Mon Jul 6 22:24:30 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (djr.massy at ntlworld.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:24:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090706222430.5VJ4O.284119.root@web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Thanks Paul, The DVI cable was supplied with the monitor, so it should have been OK. I'm also encouraged by your comment on the graphics card. Just one point is that the "Mac & PC Edition" of ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, may not be the same as the one I have. I say this because I don't remember seeing the words "Mac & PC Edition" in the context of my model of G5 anywhere. At any rate, I shall give it a good try again, when the replacement monitor arrives. Meanwhile, is it possible that you could somehow manage to confirm the relevant specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro which must have been made before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? Jim. ========================= > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <6CFCD6FE-2439-4762-8D9C-9E0C4A63BB7A at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > The DVI spec itself handles 1920x1200 at 60Hz on a single link DVI. > The Radeo 9600 Pro Graphics card supports this, and also does dual- > link DVI. See > > http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600propcmac/specs.html > > So you shouldn't need a new video card. > > The Iiyama E2607WS also accepts 1920x1200 on DVI, so it ought to work. > > Unless, of course, you're trying to connect up with a VGA cable using > the DVI-VGA adapter. Do make sure you're using a DVI-DVI cable for the > connection. > > Here's a random web site that has a picture of the connector ends: > http://store.snapstream.com/dvi-dvi.html > > regards, > > Paul > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:49, > wrote: > > > Dear NMUG members, > > > > I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was > > compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to > > get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer agreed > > to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of these > > problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. Just a > > bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. > > First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. > > > > Computer: > > > > Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of > > disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. > > > > Monitor: > > > > Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution 1920 x > > 1200 pixels. > > > > I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection > > and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow > > another monitor from a friend if need be. > > > > I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible > > with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4455 > > ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope with > > resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need a new > > card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is > > just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set- > > up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone advise me > > which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 > > at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to > > install and would I have to uninstall any existing software > > belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the laptop? > > > > I'd be most grateful for some help. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:29 +0100 > From: Anthony Brahams > Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant > To: Group list NMUG > Message-ID: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480 at themagic.me.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 > Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and some > of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail > Mailboxes. > > I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want > but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items previously > transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there > a "Help" section for this. > > Thanks for any help/ > > Anthony > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:11:58 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Migration Assistant > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > If you did the transfer on first startup of the MacBook I would have > expected no problems with the Mail (or anything else). I have read > that there can be some problems if you first set up the new machine > with a user account of the same name as the old machine and then try > to run Migration Assistant. > > In either case, I'd suggest > > (1) create an admin user account on the new MacBook > (2) delete the other user account on the new MacBook. > (3) log in as the new Admin account and run Migration Assistant again. > > I think non-user folder stuff like applications won't get copied again > if they've already been copied. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > > I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 > > Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and some > > of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail > > Mailboxes. > > > > I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want > > but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items previously > > transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there > > a "Help" section for this. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 > ************************************ From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 6 22:34:22 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:34:22 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <20090706222430.5VJ4O.284119.root@web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> References: <20090706222430.5VJ4O.284119.root@web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: <06CEDA4C-D0DB-4D14-AB16-4A98E2EE426C@durrant.co.uk> Even the much older Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition that worked with PowerMac G4s and Mac OS 9.2.1 or Mac OS X 10.1.3 could display 1920x1200 at 60Hz through its DVI interface. http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9000me/radeon9000prome/specs.html On 6 Jul 2009, at 22:24, wrote: > Meanwhile, is it possible that you could somehow manage to confirm > the relevant specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro which must > have been made before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Mon Jul 6 22:46:01 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (djr.massy at ntlworld.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:46:01 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Re: New monitor problem Message-ID: <20090706224601.3SV7U.284748.root@web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:41:26 +0100 > From: > To: djr.massy at ntlworld.com > Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem > > I'm sorry I forgot to alter the title of my last email. I also included a lot of irrelevant stuff (well, irrelevant to this topic). > > I'll try to make sure it won't happen again! > > This is how it should have been: > > > Thanks Paul, > > > > The DVI cable was supplied with the monitor, so it should have been OK. I'm also encouraged by your comment on the graphics card. Just one point is that the "Mac & PC Edition" of ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, may not be the same as the one I have. I say this because I don't remember seeing the words "Mac & PC Edition" in the context of my model of G5 anywhere. At any rate, I shall give it a good try again, when the replacement monitor arrives. Meanwhile, is it possible that you could somehow manage to confirm the relevant specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro which must have been made before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? > > > > > > Jim. > > ========================= > > > Message: 8 > > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0100 > > > From: Paul Durrant > > > Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem > > > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > > > Message-ID: <6CFCD6FE-2439-4762-8D9C-9E0C4A63BB7A at durrant.co.uk> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > > > The DVI spec itself handles 1920x1200 at 60Hz on a single link DVI. > > > The Radeo 9600 Pro Graphics card supports this, and also does dual- > > > link DVI. See > > > > > > http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600propcmac/specs.html > > > > > > So you shouldn't need a new video card. > > > > > > The Iiyama E2607WS also accepts 1920x1200 on DVI, so it ought to work. > > > > > > Unless, of course, you're trying to connect up with a VGA cable using > > > the DVI-VGA adapter. Do make sure you're using a DVI-DVI cable for the > > > connection. > > > > > > Here's a random web site that has a picture of the connector ends: > > > http://store.snapstream.com/dvi-dvi.html > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:49, > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear NMUG members, > > > > > > > > I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was > > > > compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to > > > > get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer agreed > > > > to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of these > > > > problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. Just a > > > > bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. > > > > First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. > > > > > > > > Computer: > > > > > > > > Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of > > > > disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. > > > > > > > > Monitor: > > > > > > > > Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution 1920 x > > > > 1200 pixels. > > > > > > > > I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection > > > > and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow > > > > another monitor from a friend if need be. > > > > > > > > I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible > > > > with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4455 > > > > ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope with > > > > resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need a new > > > > card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is > > > > just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set- > > > > up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone advise me > > > > which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 > > > > at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to > > > > install and would I have to uninstall any existing software > > > > belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the laptop? > > > > > > > > I'd be most grateful for some help. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Mon Jul 6 22:52:32 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:52:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness In-Reply-To: References: <99C4A826-6F9A-493C-B55C-5D8CE8FB7EF0@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A527220.5010009@stackyard.org> Simon, I suspect that you aren't going to get a huge amount of joy out of the Tiscali people but you can keep bothering them. They have an impressive reputation for uselessness so you need to decide when to either a) try another router or b) try another ISP. It sounds like both are faulty. I think the frequency issue is a red herring. 802.11 is spread spectrum and designed to be able to work on overlapping, or indeed the same frequencies. Wireless frequencies are not the same as standard radio frequencies and are channels more in a statistical sense. I think your router is toast.. except after the occasional reset. Have you tried a return to factory defaults, by the way, or a firmware upgrade. They probably wouldn't work anyway. Regarding replacement routers, I have always liked Netgear due to their GUI being the most logical and least irritating and MOST models behaving themselves. I take your point about the latest versions. My favourite product of theirs has been the DG834G of which I have installed countless numbers. However, the latest version of it (v5) is a real pain in the neck. They have put buttons, bells, whistles and weird stuff all over it and the last time I tried to get one to work, I had a hell of a time. Version 4 units are still available from Broadband Buyer so I got a few of those recently in case they are discontinued. They remain my favourite. Stay away from cheap, unbranded routers. You will not enjoy them. I have always hated D-Link routers due to their almost completely incomprehensible, stupid and illogical GUI, not to mention frequent failures of the type you are seeing with your Siemens. Linksys (now Cisco) aren't too bad and surprisingly, Thompson are pretty good and usually very cheap. I have begun installing their Ethernet modems (just a single-port wired router) to replace USB modems (UGHHH!) rather than the Linksys ones I used to use. Cheaper and work fine. Companies I have NOT had good experiences with are Belkin, Buffalo, Zoom and Zyxel but not often enough to make a general statement. PC World flog Belkin routers like mad which is a very bad sign. I have yet to be able to find the line statistics page on a Belkin router although it must be there somewhere. The Mac support issue with ISPs is a bit stupid, especially when one has a router supplied by the ISP. It doesn't really matter what OS you're running with an Ethernet router and if the ISP's support folk can't tell you how to get to the router's web page and what to do once you're there, then they're pretty feeble. Good luck with the Tiscali people. Stand your ground and if they don't want to help, ask for a migration code. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > David > > I have spoken to Tiscali again today - and I got someone who is a bit > more knowledgeable than the moron I got on Friday. The moron on Friday > told me my connection issues were because I was more than 6 foot away > from the router. > > He suggested turning off auto-channel selection and putting it to > fixed channel. I am promised a call back tomorrow to see if this > solved the problem. We will see. > > Simon > > From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Tue Jul 7 09:25:34 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:25:34 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> Thanks, Paul. I did set up the new machine first so will start again as you suggest. What is an admin user account? It was the data that had been transferred I was concerned about duplicating but with a replacement user this should not occur and I hope everything will transfer. This pm task as off to hospital now. regards Anthony On 6 Jul 2009, at 21:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > If you did the transfer on first startup of the MacBook I would have > expected no problems with the Mail (or anything else). I have read > that there can be some problems if you first set up the new machine > with a user account of the same name as the old machine and then try > to run Migration Assistant. > > In either case, I'd suggest > > (1) create an admin user account on the new MacBook > (2) delete the other user account on the new MacBook. > (3) log in as the new Admin account and run Migration Assistant again. > > I think non-user folder stuff like applications won't get copied again > if they've already been copied. > > regards, > > Paul > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: > >> I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 >> Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and >> some >> of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail >> Mailboxes. >> >> I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want >> but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items >> previously >> transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there >> a "Help" section for this. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Jul 7 09:44:35 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:44:35 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> And admin user is just an account with administration privileges that isn't your usual account. It's useful as a test account to see if problems are just with your normal login account, or are machine-wide. It's also useful when you need to delete your user account and recreate it. Paul On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Thanks, Paul. I did set up the new machine first so will start again > as you suggest. What is an admin user account? It was the data that > had been transferred I was concerned about duplicating but with a > replacement user this should not occur and I hope everything will > transfer. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 7 09:45:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:45:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted Message-ID: Hi I know this is a little off topic, but I am in need of some PC RAM. I have just built three machines, one each for my boys and one for my neice and all of them could do with some extra RAM. They all only have two slots on the motherboard so I need as high sticks as I can put in them. Also my wifes laptop urgently needs some extra RAM. Does anyone have any 512MB sticks of PC133 168pin desktop RAM? Does anyone have any 512MB or 1GB sticks of DDR 2700 laptop RAM? I am bidding frantically on eBay, but not getting anywhere fast. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Tue Jul 7 14:28:19 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:28:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <3C193292-8775-4615-9D8B-5790FC452C19@themagic.me.uk> Thanks for explaining Admin User a/c, Paul. I will follow the three steps in your earlier e-mail but I cannot see that there is a User a/c to use. Do I set one up?and at what stage? Or could I use the Admin one and have less Users? Thanks Anthony On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:44, Paul Durrant wrote: > And admin user is just an account with administration privileges that > isn't your usual account. It's useful as a test account to see if > problems are just with your normal login account, or are machine-wide. > It's also useful when you need to delete your user account and > recreate it. > > Paul > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 7 14:29:56 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Jul 2009 14:29:56 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Geekbenched My PowerBook vs Wife XP Laptop Message-ID: Hi I thought I would benchmark my wifes XP laptop to see how it compared to my ageing PowerBook and the results were interesting. My PowerBook G4 - 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM drive, 10.5.6. GeekBench score: 498 My Wife Acer laptop - 1.8Ghz AMD Sempron - 512MB RAM, 40GB 5400RPM, XP Home SP3. GeenBench score: 642. Considering the processor of my wifes laptop is over twice as fast I was expecting a much larger gap between the two machines. Does the extra RAM in mine make that much difference, or is the Sempron processor really that low powered? Simon --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From macman at f2s.com Tue Jul 7 14:53:29 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:53:29 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: <3C193292-8775-4615-9D8B-5790FC452C19@themagic.me.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <3C193292-8775-4615-9D8B-5790FC452C19@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <05D252B8-A38A-472A-BED5-2E5A02B0C904@f2s.com> Just create a new account using the '+' symbol. Give it a name and password, and allow administrative privileges. You'll probably be asked to verify by confirming using an existing administrative account. For the moment, probably advisable to disable automatic login and change the login options to 'display list of users' Login using this account, delete the rogue account, then pull in the data from your user folder on the donor machine. Robbie On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:28, Anthony Brahams wrote: Thanks for explaining Admin User a/c, Paul. I will follow the three steps in your earlier e-mail but I cannot see that there is a User a/c to use. Do I set one up?and at what stage? Or could I use the Admin one and have less Users? Thanks Anthony On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:44, Paul Durrant wrote: > And admin user is just an account with administration privileges that > isn't your usual account. It's useful as a test account to see if > problems are just with your normal login account, or are machine-wide. > It's also useful when you need to delete your user account and > recreate it. > > Paul > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:07:18 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:07:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Geekbenched My PowerBook vs Wife XP Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm intrigued how geekbench can do a fair comparison between two completely different CPU architectures, the phrase 'apples and oranges' sprang to mind, but they've already thought of that! "Compare apples and oranges. Or Macs and PCs. Geekbench is available for a variety of platforms enabling you to benchmark different computers running different operating systems." I ran it anyway, and my mac mini scored 2765, not bad considering I've got a ton of apps running plus memcached is currently eating 512Mb of RAM On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I thought I would benchmark my wifes XP laptop to see how it compared to my > ageing PowerBook and the results were interesting. > > My PowerBook G4 - 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM drive, 10.5.6. > GeekBench score: 498 > > My Wife Acer laptop - 1.8Ghz AMD Sempron - 512MB RAM, 40GB 5400RPM, XP Home > SP3. GeenBench score: 642. > > Considering the processor of my wifes laptop is over twice as fast I was > expecting a much larger gap between the two machines. Does the extra RAM in > mine make that much difference, or is the Sempron processor really that low > powered? > > Simon > > > --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. > Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- :wq From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Jul 7 15:30:20 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:30:20 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant In-Reply-To: <3C193292-8775-4615-9D8B-5790FC452C19@themagic.me.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <3C193292-8775-4615-9D8B-5790FC452C19@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: Just have one account on the new machine, not named the same as the account you want to transfer on the old machine. I call this account "admin" for convenience. Do not manually create another account on the new machine. Log in using the admin account, and then run migration assistant. Migration assistant will create the an account on the new machine when it copies the account and data from the old machine. Paul On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:28, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Thanks for explaining Admin User a/c, Paul. > > I will follow the three steps in your earlier e-mail but I cannot see > that there is a User a/c to use. Do I set one up?and at what stage? Or > could I use the Admin one and have less Users? > > Thanks > > Anthony > > On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:44, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> And admin user is just an account with administration privileges that >> isn't your usual account. It's useful as a test account to see if >> problems are just with your normal login account, or are machine- >> wide. >> It's also useful when you need to delete your user account and >> recreate it. >> >> Paul >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Tue Jul 7 18:46:37 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:46:37 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID Message-ID: Hello all, I'm seeking advice from anyone with experience of Iomega, or other, small RAID drives. Last August I bought an Iomega UltraMax Desktop Hard Dive, 1 TB, and configured it as RAID 1 to use as my Time Machine drive. Today, I noticed that there was a hitherto unseen LED alight on the front panel. "REBUILD" it said. So I pushed the associated button and the panel lit up light it was Christmas. Lots of flashing and a couple of hours have passed. Still flashing but my iMac does now see it again and Time Machine is using it, even though it's still in the process of rebuilding. I don't know how long the process will take. Question is, does this event signal that one of the drives is faulty and that I should contact the suppliers about a replacement a.s.a.p., before the warranty expires? If given a choice of replacement, should I get another Iomega or try another brand? Regards, John From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Jul 7 19:12:32 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:12:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> RAID 1 is mirrored drives. Without knowing why the rebuild light came on, you can't know if it's a hardware fault or a bad data fault. I'm rather surprised there's a rebuild possible though - you really need to know why disk is wrong to be able to rebuild a mirror, and I don't see how the hardware can know that. Check the documentation and/or the web site to see if you can find out more info on what's gone wrong with the box. regards, Paul On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:46, John Garrett wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm seeking advice from anyone with experience of Iomega, or other, > small RAID drives. > > Last August I bought an Iomega UltraMax Desktop Hard Dive, 1 TB, and > configured it as RAID 1 to use as my Time Machine drive. Today, I > noticed that there was a hitherto unseen LED alight on the front > panel. "REBUILD" it said. So I pushed the associated button and the > panel lit up light it was Christmas. Lots of flashing and a couple of > hours have passed. Still flashing but my iMac does now see it again > and Time Machine is using it, even though it's still in the process of > rebuilding. I don't know how long the process will take. > > Question is, does this event signal that one of the drives is faulty > and that I should contact the suppliers about a replacement a.s.a.p., > before the warranty expires? If given a choice of replacement, should > I get another Iomega or try another brand? > > Regards, > John From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Tue Jul 7 21:45:06 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:45:06 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Thanks Paul. Over 5 hours and still rebuilding. Nothing of help in the manual nor Iomega FAQ or Forum so I have e-mail their support people. I can't think that it's anything but a hardware fault but it could be a transient one. When you say "bad data" do you mean data that has been corrupted by a hardware fault? There must be some error checking that can establish which drive has duff data as it indicates which drive is source for the rebuild operation. The fact that it has taken more than 5 hours without completing makes me wonder if the copying keeps failing but the firmware has no way to get out of that situation. I'll see in the morning - I hope! Regards, John On 07/07/2009, at 19:12, Paul Durrant wrote: > RAID 1 is mirrored drives. Without knowing why the rebuild light came > on, you can't know if it's a hardware fault or a bad data fault. I'm > rather surprised there's a rebuild possible though - you really need > to know why disk is wrong to be able to rebuild a mirror, and I don't > see how the hardware can know that. > > Check the documentation and/or the web site to see if you can find out > more info on what's gone wrong with the box. > > regards, > > Paul From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Jul 7 22:18:41 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:18:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: If the data read is different on the two drives, I don't think it does have any method of telling which is correct. Mirroring really only protects against sudden drive failure. So it may be that the rebuild is taking so long because the failed drive is dead. (Although I'd expect it to notice that and not attempt a rebuild.) Bear in mind, however, that disk copying at the best of times isn't going to exceed about 20MB/s. In five hours that adds up to 350GB. If your drives were nearly full, it could legitimately be taking that long. regards, Paul On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:45, John Garrett wrote: > Thanks Paul. > > Over 5 hours and still rebuilding. > Nothing of help in the manual nor Iomega FAQ or Forum so I have e-mail > their support people. > > I can't think that it's anything but a hardware fault but it could be > a transient one. When you say "bad data" do you mean data that has > been corrupted by a hardware fault? There must be some error checking > that can establish which drive has duff data as it indicates which > drive is source for the rebuild operation. The fact that it has taken > more than 5 hours without completing makes me wonder if the copying > keeps failing but the firmware has no way to get out of that > situation. I'll see in the morning - I hope! > > Regards, > John > > > > On 07/07/2009, at 19:12, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> RAID 1 is mirrored drives. Without knowing why the rebuild light came >> on, you can't know if it's a hardware fault or a bad data fault. I'm >> rather surprised there's a rebuild possible though - you really need >> to know why disk is wrong to be able to rebuild a mirror, and I don't >> see how the hardware can know that. >> >> Check the documentation and/or the web site to see if you can find >> out >> more info on what's gone wrong with the box. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Tue Jul 7 22:53:44 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:53:44 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: The manual doesn't say how the rebuild function knows which way to copy but does say this: "Rebuild direction indicators?One of these indicators will glow orange during a RAID 1 rebuild. These lights indicate the source and target disk. If the upper light is glowing, data is being restored to disk 2 from disk 1. If the lower light is glowing, data is being restored to disk 1 from disk 2." In my case it's the lower LED that's illuminated. More tomorrow! All the best, John On 07/07/2009, at 22:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > If the data read is different on the two drives, I don't think it does > have any method of telling which is correct. From stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 7 23:59:42 2009 From: stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk (Stair) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Simon, I've got two sticks of PC RAM you can have if you want. The number on them says 512M PC-133. I got them to try to boost the crappy PC I use at the moment while I'm familiarizing myself with my macbook. Apparently I should have got 1 or 2 PC133 256RAM sticks instead. If you have these that would be good but don't worry if you haven't you can have what I have anyway. I'll persevere and look forward to when I can afford to replace my PC with a mac mini. Best wishes, Stair From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 07:04:51 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:04:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] my problem solution Message-ID: Dear All Richard has asked me to let you know the outcome of my problem with the Mac not going further than the silver icon and the spinning wheel. Following suggestions from others, nothing worked. I remembered the Dummies book I had bought with the machine, which I never use! It told me to switch on and hold the C key down until the spinning wheel stops - which it did. I had previously tried to reinstall the software but the disc had gone in and got stuck, with nothing happening. Now the disc could reinstall the software with all documents being saved. An excellent result and a happy Mac owner again! Jules From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Wed Jul 8 07:23:02 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:23:02 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am afraid this is not going to help, but I had a bad experience with an iomega 1TB Ultramax which I purchased some time ago from the Apple store. After being very noisy for some time it finally would not appear on the desktop. As it was still under warrantee I contacted Apple who said I should contact iomega, I sent them an email but didn't receive a reply. I hope you have a better experience than I did. Nathan On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:46, John Garrett wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm seeking advice from anyone with experience of Iomega, or other, > small RAID drives. > > Last August I bought an Iomega UltraMax Desktop Hard Dive, 1 TB, and > configured it as RAID 1 to use as my Time Machine drive. Today, I > noticed that there was a hitherto unseen LED alight on the front > panel. "REBUILD" it said. So I pushed the associated button and the > panel lit up light it was Christmas. Lots of flashing and a couple of > hours have passed. Still flashing but my iMac does now see it again > and Time Machine is using it, even though it's still in the process of > rebuilding. I don't know how long the process will take. > > Question is, does this event signal that one of the drives is faulty > and that I should contact the suppliers about a replacement a.s.a.p., > before the warranty expires? If given a choice of replacement, should > I get another Iomega or try another brand? > > Regards, > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 08:01:18 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:01:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security Message-ID: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> Just got a wireless Thomson router from my broadband provider but whilst my ibook sees the network I cannot get the password to work . Plusnet says I need a driver but I dont think they understand Macs. I'm running OSX 10.5.7. Help please. Alan Williams alan at asw6000.plus.com From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 08:14:52 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:14:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: <1FE8176E-DD29-482F-884F-AF9419C08516@f2s.com> Not sure if it will help, but can say that with Netgear, there is an extra level of security - an access list of permitted users. When active, even if the password is known, will not allow a connection unless the machine has been authorised. For first time access it needs to be disabled until a connection has been established and the machine's mac code stored, after which it can be enabled and only 'registered' machines can connect. Perhaps the Thomson has something similar? Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 08:01, Alan Williams wrote: Just got a wireless Thomson router from my broadband provider but whilst my ibook sees the network I cannot get the password to work . Plusnet says I need a driver but I dont think they understand Macs. I'm running OSX 10.5.7. Help please. Alan Williams alan at asw6000.plus.com _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Jul 8 08:38:56 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:38:56 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: <4966B6A1-7D04-4D7F-B3DC-B71045D861B9@durrant.co.uk> Check you're using the password for the wireless network, and not the router's admin password. If the wireless network password is specified as hex (0-9 and A-F), then try entering it on the Mac preceeded by 0x (that's a zero and then lower case X) or by a $ sign. regards, Paul On 8 Jul 2009, at 08:01, Alan Williams wrote: > Just got a wireless Thomson router from my broadband provider but > whilst my ibook sees the network I cannot get the password to work . > Plusnet says I need a driver but I dont think they understand Macs. > > I'm running OSX 10.5.7. > Help please. From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Wed Jul 8 08:41:45 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:41:45 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: This morning, the LEDs had stopped flashing, leaving only the 'power on' indicator. Drive totally unresponsive. Powered it down and up again and it now appears to be running normally. I shan't feel very confident about it, though. Or should I be pleased that the RAID 1 arrangement can recover from a transient fault, even if it did take a long time to rebuild what should have been c. 150 GB of my data? Thanks to those who sent me horror stories of Iomega products and dealing with Iomega. Amazon reviews would put anyone off 'em, too! John On 07/07/2009, at 22:53, John Garrett wrote: > The manual doesn't say how the rebuild function knows which way to > copy but does say this: > > "Rebuild direction indicators?One of these indicators will glow orange > during a RAID 1 rebuild. These lights indicate the source and target > disk. If the upper light is glowing, data is being restored to disk 2 > from disk 1. If the lower light is glowing, data is being restored to > disk 1 from disk 2." > > In my case it's the lower LED that's illuminated. > > More tomorrow! > > All the best, > John > > On 07/07/2009, at 22:18, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> If the data read is different on the two drives, I don't think it >> does >> have any method of telling which is correct. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 09:01:00 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:01:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> Robbie has a good point about access lists but these are usually disabled by default except for Orange LiveBoxes (horrible 1960s-styled thing with cryptic, illegible labelling on lights and buttons). Which model of router is it? It's possible that Thompson have instituted default access lists on newer models. PlusNet sound like they don't understand much about wireless much less Macs. Have you connected your iBook to the router with an Ethernet cable? If so, you can log onto the router's web page which, in the case of Thompson routers will probably be http://192.168.1.254/ and you should be able to see the wireless configuration. You will probably be asked for a username and password which will probably be admin and admin. If the encryption key is dotted out, change it. Open a textedit window and type in an alpha-numeric string of your choice and copy-and-paste to the appropriate field on the router's wireless security page. Save the change and then try and connect wirelessly. When prompted for the key, paste again so you know you are using the same string. Some routers (Netgear) do not obscure the key on their configuration page so you can copy-and-paste directly from there. If you still can't connect, make sure the router is set for WPA-PSK for the encryption type. I keep seeing situations where WPA2 or mixed WPA-WPA2 gives connection issues. It shouldn't but sometimes it does. Don't use WEP encryption. It can be broken by the average teenager. It also has the disadvantage of requiring a fixed-length hexadecimal number (as Paul has just pointed out). WPA uses a variable length ASCII string which can contain spaces, etc. Something else to check. Many routers have their wireless disabled by default. This can be enabled on the router's config page. Ascertain that your iBook is not actually seeing a neighbour's wireless network. Stranger things have happened. I have seen neighbours inadvertently using each other's wireless networks and hence their broadband connections. I have even seen a situation where someone mistakenly changed the router admin password on their neighbour's router, thinking it was their own. Good fun. Ken Alan Williams wrote: > Just got a wireless Thomson router from my broadband provider but > whilst my ibook sees the network I cannot get the password to work . > Plusnet says I need a driver but I dont think they understand Macs. > > I'm running OSX 10.5.7. > Help please. > > Alan Williams > alan at asw6000.plus.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 09:15:53 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:15:53 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Hi All good suggestions, but what is happening when you try to connect. Does it says password failed (or something familiar) - if it does that would indicate an incorrect password/key entered. Does it say connection timeout? Does it give the infamous 'there was an error joining the Airport network .... ' Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:01, Ken Hamer wrote: > Robbie has a good point about access lists but these are usually > disabled by default except for Orange LiveBoxes (horrible 1960s-styled > thing with cryptic, illegible labelling on lights and buttons). Which > model of router is it? It's possible that Thompson have instituted > default access lists on newer models. > > PlusNet sound like they don't understand much about wireless much > less Macs. > > Have you connected your iBook to the router with an Ethernet cable? > If > so, you can log onto the router's web page which, in the case of > Thompson routers will probably be http://192.168.1.254/ and you should > be able to see the wireless configuration. You will probably be asked > for a username and password which will probably be admin and admin. > If > the encryption key is dotted out, change it. Open a textedit window > and > type in an alpha-numeric string of your choice and copy-and-paste to > the > appropriate field on the router's wireless security page. Save the > change and then try and connect wirelessly. When prompted for the > key, > paste again so you know you are using the same string. Some routers > (Netgear) do not obscure the key on their configuration page so you > can > copy-and-paste directly from there. > > If you still can't connect, make sure the router is set for WPA-PSK > for > the encryption type. I keep seeing situations where WPA2 or mixed > WPA-WPA2 gives connection issues. It shouldn't but sometimes it does. > Don't use WEP encryption. It can be broken by the average > teenager. It > also has the disadvantage of requiring a fixed-length hexadecimal > number > (as Paul has just pointed out). WPA uses a variable length ASCII > string > which can contain spaces, etc. > > Something else to check. Many routers have their wireless disabled by > default. This can be enabled on the router's config page. Ascertain > that your iBook is not actually seeing a neighbour's wireless network. > Stranger things have happened. I have seen neighbours inadvertently > using each other's wireless networks and hence their broadband > connections. I have even seen a situation where someone mistakenly > changed the router admin password on their neighbour's router, > thinking > it was their own. Good fun. > > Ken > > Alan Williams wrote: >> Just got a wireless Thomson router from my broadband provider but >> whilst my ibook sees the network I cannot get the password to work . >> Plusnet says I need a driver but I dont think they understand Macs. >> >> I'm running OSX 10.5.7. >> Help please. >> >> Alan Williams >> alan at asw6000.plus.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 09:16:50 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:16:50 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Message-ID: <85435B7F-C64B-47FC-A4B1-1AA61E83CD9E@asw6000.plus.com> Thanks Paul I tried both alternatives without success. I notice that the passwords they have given me are the same for WEP & WPA PSK which seems strange . I will have a go at Kens' suggestions & try connecting via ethernet to their web page. regards Alan From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 09:19:58 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:19:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <1EDDEEC3-2549-4764-B8D0-C0ADAFF00D7C@asw6000.plus.com> Hi Simon It says " invalid password " regards On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:15, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > All good suggestions, but what is happening when you try to connect. > > Does it says password failed (or something familiar) - if it does that > would indicate an incorrect password/key entered. > > Does it say connection timeout? > > Does it give the infamous 'there was an error joining the Airport > network .... ' > > Simon > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 09:21:31 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:21:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK In-Reply-To: <85435B7F-C64B-47FC-A4B1-1AA61E83CD9E@asw6000.plus.com> References: <85435B7F-C64B-47FC-A4B1-1AA61E83CD9E@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: <4A54570B.6020306@stackyard.org> Not so strange. They have set a hexadecimal key for WEP which is still an ASCII string so it will work for WPA. Alan Williams wrote: > Thanks Paul I tried both alternatives without success. I notice that > the passwords they have given me are the same for WEP & WPA PSK which > seems strange . > > I will have a go at Kens' suggestions & try connecting via ethernet to > their web page. > > regards > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 09:22:29 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:22:29 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <1EDDEEC3-2549-4764-B8D0-C0ADAFF00D7C@asw6000.plus.com> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> <1EDDEEC3-2549-4764-B8D0-C0ADAFF00D7C@asw6000.plus.com> Message-ID: <57AAF5A4-08BE-4A7F-9DE9-4B6E36EB6153@simonroyal.co.uk> Alan As someone else suggested I would recommend hooking up to the router via ethernet cable and logging into the router setup page. Change the WPA key to something you set yourself - therefore knowing exactly what it is. Alternatively, try it without any security - just to see if it will connect. If it does, quickly add security. But at least it will show you it is a key problem. Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:19, Alan Williams wrote: > Hi Simon > > It says " invalid password " > > regards > On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:15, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> All good suggestions, but what is happening when you try to connect. >> >> Does it says password failed (or something familiar) - if it does >> that >> would indicate an incorrect password/key entered. >> >> Does it say connection timeout? >> >> Does it give the infamous 'there was an error joining the Airport >> network .... ' >> >> Simon >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 09:37:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:37:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Geekbenched My PowerBook vs Wife XP Laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott It is interesting to see actually how much more power these multi core machines have. A Pentium 4 1.7Ghz vs a Dual Core Pentium 2Ghz (thats as close a clock speed as I could compare). The Pentium 4 with its single core was around the 700 mark, but the dual core came in at over 2500. Impressive for only a few hundred extra on the clock speed. Of course, GeekBench takes into account the whole machine inc: number of cores, system bus speed, memory bandwidth and drive speed access. Two identical machines, one with a slower hard drive will pull the overall final score down, but there is a section in the results that will tell you the results just from the processor, which might give you a better indication. Interestingly, on the processor integer score my PowerBook with its 867Mhz G4 processor beat the Acer Aspire with its Sempron 1.8Ghz processor. 581 vs 561. But the G4 memory performance/speed lets it down against the Aspire. PC133 vs DDR. 356 vs 644. Looking at the individual benchmark scores the G4 beats the Aspire on some aspects, but the older hardware and slower internal workings let's it overall rating down. Simon On 7 Jul 2009, at 15:07, Scott Matthews wrote: > I'm intrigued how geekbench can do a fair comparison between two > completely different CPU architectures, the phrase 'apples and > oranges' sprang to mind, but they've already thought of that! > > "Compare apples and oranges. Or Macs and PCs. Geekbench is available > for a variety of platforms enabling you to benchmark different > computers running different operating systems." > > I ran it anyway, and my mac mini scored 2765, not bad considering I've > got a ton of apps running plus memcached is currently eating 512Mb of > RAM > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Simon Royal > wrote: >> Hi >> >> I thought I would benchmark my wifes XP laptop to see how it >> compared to my >> ageing PowerBook and the results were interesting. >> >> My PowerBook G4 - 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM drive, 10.5.6. >> GeekBench score: 498 >> >> My Wife Acer laptop - 1.8Ghz AMD Sempron - 512MB RAM, 40GB 5400RPM, >> XP Home >> SP3. GeenBench score: 642. >> >> Considering the processor of my wifes laptop is over twice as fast >> I was >> expecting a much larger gap between the two machines. Does the >> extra RAM in >> mine make that much difference, or is the Sempron processor really >> that low >> powered? >> >> Simon >> >> >> --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. >> Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 09:48:47 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:48:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Security In-Reply-To: <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> References: <6771419A-2DCF-48C2-90F2-1D6E3EAF8722@asw6000.plus.com> <4A54523C.5000003@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <0CCE8A2B-958D-4A7C-88F9-85534C1DFB14@f2s.com> One of our staff recently installed a new Modem/Router (Netgear on my recommendation), and as he lived 'in the middle of nowhere' chose not to bother with securing it. He went away for the weekend, only to find himself unable to access the internet, as in 3 days, his fairly hefty 20gb allowance had been used up by persons unknown ..... He had purchase extra bandwidth from his ISP, Zen, who told him it's not always malicious, as many machines simply choose the strongest signal available. Lesson learned - he now has a WPA-PSK key plus access control! Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:01, Ken Hamer wrote: I have seen neighbours inadvertently using each other's wireless networks and hence their broadband connections. I From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 10:08:24 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:08:24 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Message-ID: <239B11F0-05DD-4893-B98C-5B9C1F875A3D@asw6000.plus.com> I went to the Thomson website via ethernet & changed the passcode ( it was amazingly easy) to no avail . I still get "invalid password ". I also checked the encryption type & changed it from WPA + WPA2 to either of these again to no avail. One uses tkip & the other aes. Will try Simons' idea next of no security or WEP. regards Alan From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 11:23:05 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:23:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega's noisy disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <516692E3-7E5B-4184-B9B4-36DEF4A79CAE@gmail.com> Nathan wrote > After being very noisy for some time it finally would not appear on > the desktop. As it was still under warrantee I contacted Apple who > said I should contact This brings up the point that as SOON as disk starts to be even a little bit noisier than usual, recover all the data from it and assume it is going to die. If it's in warranty, return it claiming it's defective. If it's out of warranty, only use if for non critical data henceforward. It's my experience that all increases in noise presage doom. Write an email to Iomega with a copy to Apple saying you do not expect any product sold or even mentioned by Apple to offer zero customer service and that unless you get an immediate replacement you will sue both Apple and Iomega under the Sale of Goods Act. That should do the trick. Apple will jump all over them From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Wed Jul 8 11:36:51 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:36:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega's noisy disk In-Reply-To: <516692E3-7E5B-4184-B9B4-36DEF4A79CAE@gmail.com> References: <516692E3-7E5B-4184-B9B4-36DEF4A79CAE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59576803-A97A-49A4-BFC1-18776FD3BFC3@virgin.net> Yes, that is what I should have done Stefan but it is now about two years ago. Probably too late. The noise was considered by omega to be normal! Nathan On 8 Jul 2009, at 11:23, stefan youngs wrote: > > > Write an email to Iomega with a copy to Apple saying you do not expect > any product sold or even mentioned by Apple to offer zero customer > service and that unless you get an immediate replacement you will sue > both Apple and Iomega under the Sale of Goods Act. That should do the > trick. > > Apple will jump all over them > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Wed Jul 8 13:31:38 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:31:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Four hours later the unit failed again. John Lewis collecting it tomorrow and refunding. Iomega offered to exchange but I think I'll try a different brand. I'm glad the fault reappeared so soon. Now to choose a replacement . . anyone any useful experience of small RAIDs? I'm tempted to try WesternDigital as I have had several LaCie failures. Not sure whose hard drives LaCie and Iomega actually use, though. John On 08/07/2009, at 08:41, John Garrett wrote: > This morning, the LEDs had stopped flashing, leaving only the 'power > on' indicator. Drive totally unresponsive. > > Powered it down and up again and it now appears to be running > normally. I shan't feel very confident about it, though. Or should I > be pleased that the RAID 1 arrangement can recover from a transient > fault, even if it did take a long time to rebuild what should have > been c. 150 GB of my data? From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Jul 8 13:38:02 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:38:02 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <56E577B0-982A-44A7-822C-FA5C890EE942@durrant.co.uk> There's not a lot of advantage in choosing a two disk raid box for a mirrored RAID as opposed to two identical external disks and setting up the mirrored RAID using Disk Utility. For much better protection, choose a RAID with at least three disks and using at least RAID 5. That way if any one disk goes bad, it can be pulled and replaced, with the data being rebuilt from the other two. I've gone for the two identical externals myself. I have considered a larger dedicated RAID box, but never actually made a decision. If you do go for the dedicated RAID, it's probably worth getting one spare disk to swap in if/when one of the disks in the RAID breaks. regards, Paul On 8 Jul 2009, at 13:31, John Garrett wrote: > Four hours later the unit failed again. John Lewis collecting it > tomorrow and refunding. Iomega offered to exchange but I think I'll > try a different brand. > > I'm glad the fault reappeared so soon. Now to choose a > replacement . . anyone any useful experience of small RAIDs? I'm > tempted to try WesternDigital as I have had several LaCie failures. > Not sure whose hard drives LaCie and Iomega actually use, though. > > John > > > On 08/07/2009, at 08:41, John Garrett wrote: > >> This morning, the LEDs had stopped flashing, leaving only the 'power >> on' indicator. Drive totally unresponsive. >> >> Powered it down and up again and it now appears to be running >> normally. I shan't feel very confident about it, though. Or should I >> be pleased that the RAID 1 arrangement can recover from a transient >> fault, even if it did take a long time to rebuild what should have >> been c. 150 GB of my data? > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 13:50:00 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:50:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Geekbenching Message-ID: <3CFA719D-664E-4BA6-AD7C-FC4075D54BA9@gmail.com> I think somehow the point is being missed: Using Freakbench the results are: PCs of any clockspeed easily outperform all Macs in terms of virus acquisition. Sometimes by a factor of 5 gazillion to 1. The bigger the PC memory and more cores, the more applications can be run simultaneously, increasing once again the PC's ability to outperform any Mac in terms not only of virus acquisition but also in generating annoyingly stupid and non-intuitive behaviour From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 13:59:22 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:59:22 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: The big buzz nowadays is the Drobo ..... Mix & Match any old drives, hot swappable, and up to 16Tb when 4Td drives become available ... Firewire or USB http://drobo.co.uk/ Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 13:31, John Garrett wrote: Four hours later the unit failed again. John Lewis collecting it tomorrow and refunding. Iomega offered to exchange but I think I'll try a different brand. I'm glad the fault reappeared so soon. Now to choose a replacement . . anyone any useful experience of small RAIDs? I'm tempted to try WesternDigital as I have had several LaCie failures. Not sure whose hard drives LaCie and Iomega actually use, though. John On 08/07/2009, at 08:41, John Garrett wrote: > This morning, the LEDs had stopped flashing, leaving only the 'power > on' indicator. Drive totally unresponsive. > > Powered it down and up again and it now appears to be running > normally. I shan't feel very confident about it, though. Or should I > be pleased that the RAID 1 arrangement can recover from a transient > fault, even if it did take a long time to rebuild what should have > been c. 150 GB of my data? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 14:01:05 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:01:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults WPA PSK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK > > > I went to the Thomson website via ethernet & changed the passcode ( it > was amazingly easy) to no avail . I still get "invalid password ". I > also checked the encryption type & changed it from WPA + WPA2 to > either of these again to no avail. One uses tkip & the other aes. > Will try Simons' idea next of no security or WEP. > > regards > Alan Forgive if this has been covered already, I only pay half attention to topics that don't feature amusing comments from Robbie. Just to clarify a term, obviously you realize you're not going to the modem website, but to the minimal browser running inside the modem/ router itself. This runs whether or not the modem is attached to the Internet. I think it's true to say that all router/modems come with factory settings that just provide basic access control to log into their integrated browser and with NO wireless security set. Pressing the modem reset button for 30 seconds should put you into the position of factory defaults. The wireless will then be password free This list gives most factory default settings http://www.phenoelit-us.org/dpl/dpl.html It's not a bad idea to write the factory default and the server address on the bottom of the modem so when you come to recycle the piece of junk, the new happy user will know how to get started From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Wed Jul 8 14:51:42 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:51:42 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <1A9508E3-2B37-44E3-B5A2-F4A4B8B3D413@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Thanks, Paul and Robbie, for thoughts on small RAID. I'm quite keen on a hardware unit, partly as it needs only a single power supply and associated knitting under the desk! (Hmmm - single point of failure....) I do agree with Paul's idea of getting a spare for when the first disc fails. I'll have a look at Drobo. Thanks for the link. John On 08/07/2009, at 13:59, Robbie Murray wrote: > The big buzz nowadays is the Drobo ..... From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Wed Jul 8 15:29:33 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:29:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities Message-ID: Guys Thoughts on an anomaly. I accept credit cards for my dot com enterprise with no problems. I'm on BT broad band and again this works OK. Now occasionally my credit card provider updates the software on my card terminal. However this fails if the broad band wireless hub is connected. The incomming line is split at the terminal, one line goes to the office and the card terminal and one line to the hall and the phone. The BT wireless router is connected to the hall phone. If I leave the broad band to the phone connected the update fails. If I pull the plug on the broad band it is AOK. As the line is split at source not via the phone and thus the router, how does this happen? Is there a way around this.? I've had chats with the card provider and they say it's a broad band issue. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 15:33:39 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:33:39 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Iomega RAID In-Reply-To: <1A9508E3-2B37-44E3-B5A2-F4A4B8B3D413@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> References: <0D787468-0DAB-4472-918E-D2F891BED7C0@durrant.co.uk> <0785FE2F-3585-48CE-9A3F-F422A361B1EF@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> <444537A4-AB4F-44D1-9B18-C41D29455A6D@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> <1A9508E3-2B37-44E3-B5A2-F4A4B8B3D413@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <7AF3B421-1470-4E12-A5F6-C85DBDEAE530@f2s.com> Here's a better link ... http://tinyurl.com/47gyve Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 14:51, John Garrett wrote: Thanks, Paul and Robbie, for thoughts on small RAID. I'm quite keen on a hardware unit, partly as it needs only a single power supply and associated knitting under the desk! (Hmmm - single point of failure....) I do agree with Paul's idea of getting a spare for when the first disc fails. I'll have a look at Drobo. Thanks for the link. John On 08/07/2009, at 13:59, Robbie Murray wrote: > The big buzz nowadays is the Drobo ..... _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 16:42:08 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:42:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK Message-ID: Further to prev long story I have now connected wirelessly with no problem using either no security or WEP as Simon suggested . Does this mean that my ibook cant handle WPA ? regards Alan From alan at asw6000.plus.com Wed Jul 8 16:56:27 2009 From: alan at asw6000.plus.com (Alan Williams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:56:27 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] wpa psk Message-ID: I promise this is the final email on the subject. After running with WEP for a while I then changed the encryption back to WPA PSK and it WORKED !!!. God knows why but I am now wireless. Thanks to everybody for the help. regards Alan From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 17:07:25 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:07:25 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> Michael, I'm confused as to where your microfilters (if any) are. If you can be a bit more precise about how things are connected, it might become clearer. For example, the router will not be plugged into the hall phone but rather into a microfilter which is plugged into the BT socket. The phone will probably be plugged into another socket on the microfilter. At least that's how it should be. How are things plugged in at the office end? What is plugged into what? Ken Michael Woodhouse wrote: > Guys > > Thoughts on an anomaly. > > I accept credit cards for my dot com enterprise with no problems. I'm > on BT broad band and again this works OK. > > Now occasionally my credit card provider updates the software on my > card terminal. However this fails if the broad band wireless hub is > connected. > > The incomming line is split at the terminal, one line goes to the > office and the card terminal and one line to the hall and the phone. > The BT wireless router is connected to the hall phone. If I leave the > broad band to the phone connected the update fails. If I pull the plug > on the broad band it is AOK. > > As the line is split at source not via the phone and thus the router, > how does this happen? Is there a way around this.? I've had chats with > the card provider and they say it's a broad band issue. > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 17:20:47 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:20:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8497779B-BD30-4A75-BF6C-780C344010DA@simonroyal.co.uk> Alan What iBook do you have? G3 iBooks use Airport (802.11b) which is WEP only. G4 iBooks use Airport Extreme (802.11b & g) which is WEP and WPA capable. Although interestingly some of the later Airport cards are only 11b but can still handle WPA. The only 11b card that can. Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 16:42, Alan Williams wrote: > Further to prev long story I have now connected wirelessly with no > problem using either no security or WEP as Simon suggested . Does this > mean that my ibook cant handle WPA ? > > regards > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 17:21:21 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:21:21 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] wpa psk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <999EE6DB-AC7F-461B-B660-F3EC7E351B2F@simonroyal.co.uk> Alan Glad to here it. Wireless can be a pain and I guess in answer to my earlier email you have an iBook G4. Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 16:56, Alan Williams wrote: > I promise this is the final email on the subject. After running with > WEP for a while I then changed the encryption back to WPA PSK and it > WORKED !!!. God knows why but I am now wireless. > Thanks to everybody for the help. > > regards > Alan > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 17:22:30 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:22:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults WPA PSK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A54C7C6.3040906@stackyard.org> Actually, many routers come with their wireless access points up and running (factory defaults). Indeed, one major drawback of Netgear routers is that they default to an unencrypted network with an SSID of NETGEAR. Not ideal but if the owner runs the setup disk, it will guide them through the enabling of encryption. BT Home Hubs come encrypted by default and are supplied with a card with the SSID and encryption key printed on it. They used to have WEP but now have WPA. The encryption is factory default. Other routers have a factory default of the wireless access point disabled completely. I've just realized that this reply was neither funny nor from Robbie so Stefan probably deleted it without looking at it. So why did I bother? Anyway, Alan now appears magically sorted so it's all academic. Ken stefan youngs wrote: > On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > > >> Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK >> >> >> I went to the Thomson website via ethernet & changed the passcode ( it >> was amazingly easy) to no avail . I still get "invalid password ". I >> also checked the encryption type & changed it from WPA + WPA2 to >> either of these again to no avail. One uses tkip & the other aes. >> Will try Simons' idea next of no security or WEP. >> >> regards >> Alan >> > > > Forgive if this has been covered already, I only pay half attention to > topics that don't feature amusing comments from Robbie. > > Just to clarify a term, obviously you realize you're not going to the > modem website, but to the minimal browser running inside the modem/ > router itself. This runs whether or not the modem is attached to the > Internet. > > I think it's true to say that all router/modems come with factory > settings that just provide basic access control to log into their > integrated browser and with NO wireless security set. > > Pressing the modem reset button for 30 seconds should put you into the > position of factory defaults. The wireless will then be password free > > This list gives most factory default settings > > http://www.phenoelit-us.org/dpl/dpl.html > > It's not a bad idea to write the factory default and the server > address on the bottom of the modem so when you come to recycle the > piece of junk, the new happy user will know how to get started > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 17:23:26 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:23:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] RAID and Softraid Message-ID: I used to know a fair bit about RAID having worked on the original IBM concept back in the 70's and have always had an interest thereafter. I implemented a very powerful mirroring raid on the Mac platform back in the 80's which sold thousands of drives. My advice is NOT to go for integrated solutions because you pay a premium for which no significant benefit accrues. A software solution is preferable because it: * permits you to use any drives you have or want to buy now or in the future * swapouts are easy * mix and match drive makes and sizes is supported In my opinion Softraid offers everything one could want. They have been going for years and have a very good reputation for service. The head of the development team used to work for me and is of a very high calibre. http://www.softraid.com/demo.html In terms of disk drives, I always avoid Western Digital having had bad experiences with them. I go for Seagate on the basis they have most to lose by cocking things up. OEMs like LaCie rarely stick with any one make of drive, generally selecting whatever offers them the best deal at the time. You'll find folks who swear by Western Digital so user experience is not something you can necessarily rely on. From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 17:41:28 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:41:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults WPA PSK In-Reply-To: <4A54C7C6.3040906@stackyard.org> References: <4A54C7C6.3040906@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <0DC12276-DFE4-49B5-B3FC-49F3459BE641@f2s.com> It's a standing joke in the USA that more than half of the home wireless networks in existence are called 'Linksys' Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:22, Ken Hamer wrote: Actually, many routers come with their wireless access points up and running (factory defaults). Indeed, one major drawback of Netgear routers is that they default to an unencrypted network with an SSID of NETGEAR. stefan youngs wrote: > On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > > >> Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK >> >> >> I went to the Thomson website via ethernet & changed the passcode >> ( it >> was amazingly easy) to no avail . I still get "invalid password ". I >> also checked the encryption type & changed it from WPA + WPA2 to >> either of these again to no avail. One uses tkip & the other aes. >> Will try Simons' idea next of no security or WEP. >> >> regards >> Alan >> > > > Forgive if this has been covered already, I only pay half attention to > topics that don't feature amusing comments from Robbie. > > Just to clarify a term, obviously you realize you're not going to the > modem website, but to the minimal browser running inside the modem/ > router itself. This runs whether or not the modem is attached to the > Internet. > > I think it's true to say that all router/modems come with factory > settings that just provide basic access control to log into their > integrated browser and with NO wireless security set. > > Pressing the modem reset button for 30 seconds should put you into the > position of factory defaults. The wireless will then be password free > > This list gives most factory default settings > > http://www.phenoelit-us.org/dpl/dpl.html > > It's not a bad idea to write the factory default and the server > address on the bottom of the modem so when you come to recycle the > piece of junk, the new happy user will know how to get started > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Wed Jul 8 17:44:21 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:44:21 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> References: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Ken Sorry. Let me explain in more detail. A single line into the house. At the terminal there are two lines , one to the office and one to the hall. The office only has the card machine attached. The hall has the BT wireless router and the phone/fax/answer phone attached. The upgrade to the card machine can only happen if I unplug the BT wireless router, thus disabling the phone/fax/answer phone and the wireless connection to the Imac. What seems odd to me is that the hall and office have a different wire or does the fact that the router is attached feed back into the main line? Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:07, Ken Hamer wrote: > Michael, > > I'm confused as to where your microfilters (if any) are. If you can > be > a bit more precise about how things are connected, it might become > clearer. For example, the router will not be plugged into the hall > phone but rather into a microfilter which is plugged into the BT > socket. The phone will probably be plugged into another socket on the > microfilter. At least that's how it should be. How are things > plugged > in at the office end? What is plugged into what? > > Ken > > Michael Woodhouse wrote: >> Guys >> >> Thoughts on an anomaly. >> >> I accept credit cards for my dot com enterprise with no problems. I'm >> on BT broad band and again this works OK. >> >> Now occasionally my credit card provider updates the software on my >> card terminal. However this fails if the broad band wireless hub is >> connected. >> >> The incomming line is split at the terminal, one line goes to the >> office and the card terminal and one line to the hall and the phone. >> The BT wireless router is connected to the hall phone. If I leave the >> broad band to the phone connected the update fails. If I pull the >> plug >> on the broad band it is AOK. >> >> As the line is split at source not via the phone and thus the router, >> how does this happen? Is there a way around this.? I've had chats >> with >> the card provider and they say it's a broad band issue. >> >> Michael Woodhouse >> mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk >> http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Wed Jul 8 17:55:08 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:55:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> References: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Message-ID: <9E36D61E-AC3B-42A1-9477-06BDD14F47DC@virgin.net> On Jul 8, 2009, at 17:44, Michael Woodhouse wrote: > The office only has the card machine attached. If the card machine runs through a normal phone line then it should have a filter between it and the socket to filter out your broadband signal. if it hasn't then that could be the cause of your problem. Maybe. Paul C From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 18:06:15 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:06:15 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults WPA PSK In-Reply-To: <0DC12276-DFE4-49B5-B3FC-49F3459BE641@f2s.com> References: <4A54C7C6.3040906@stackyard.org> <0DC12276-DFE4-49B5-B3FC-49F3459BE641@f2s.com> Message-ID: <4A54D207.8010302@stackyard.org> I believe it! Robbie Murray wrote: > It's a standing joke in the USA that more than half of the home > wireless networks in existence are called 'Linksys' > > Robbie > > > > On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:22, Ken Hamer wrote: > > Actually, many routers come with their wireless access points up and > running (factory defaults). Indeed, one major drawback of Netgear > routers is that they default to an unencrypted network with an SSID of > NETGEAR. > > > stefan youngs wrote: > >> On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: >> >> >> >>> Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK >>> >>> >>> I went to the Thomson website via ethernet & changed the passcode >>> ( it >>> was amazingly easy) to no avail . I still get "invalid password ". I >>> also checked the encryption type & changed it from WPA + WPA2 to >>> either of these again to no avail. One uses tkip & the other aes. >>> Will try Simons' idea next of no security or WEP. >>> >>> regards >>> Alan >>> >>> >> Forgive if this has been covered already, I only pay half attention to >> topics that don't feature amusing comments from Robbie. >> >> Just to clarify a term, obviously you realize you're not going to the >> modem website, but to the minimal browser running inside the modem/ >> router itself. This runs whether or not the modem is attached to the >> Internet. >> >> I think it's true to say that all router/modems come with factory >> settings that just provide basic access control to log into their >> integrated browser and with NO wireless security set. >> >> Pressing the modem reset button for 30 seconds should put you into the >> position of factory defaults. The wireless will then be password free >> >> This list gives most factory default settings >> >> http://www.phenoelit-us.org/dpl/dpl.html >> >> It's not a bad idea to write the factory default and the server >> address on the bottom of the modem so when you come to recycle the >> piece of junk, the new happy user will know how to get started >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Wed Jul 8 18:15:29 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:15:29 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: <9E36D61E-AC3B-42A1-9477-06BDD14F47DC@virgin.net> References: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> <9E36D61E-AC3B-42A1-9477-06BDD14F47DC@virgin.net> Message-ID: <7E21E7AF-F09F-4048-B04E-C21ABD39DB7C@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Paul Thanks for that. Just taken a look for one and read the following note with the filter on the BT shop. I have a filter on the phone line in the hall but not the office for the card machine. I'll get one sorted and report back the next time Streamline do an update on the terminal. This ADSL micro filter allows you to share broadband and telephone equipment on one socket. To ensure the quality of both the telephony and the ADSL, it is important that every piece of telephony equipment must be filtered including telephones, fax machines and even simple tone callers. This doesn't mean that every piece of equipment has to have a filter, only that every telephone socket that has telephony equipment attached to it should have a micro filter fitted first. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:55, Paul Chapman wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 17:44, Michael Woodhouse wrote: > >> The office only has the card machine attached. > > If the card machine runs through a normal phone line then it should > have a filter between it and the socket to filter out your broadband > signal. if it hasn't then that could be the cause of your problem. > > Maybe. > > Paul C > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 18:21:28 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:21:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> References: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A54D598.4090101@stackyard.org> Sorry, I'm not really any wiser but as Paul has just pointed out, if the card terminal has no microfilter, it will not work when the router is plugged into the phone line. Depending on your distance from the telephone exchange, I also wouldn't expect the router to synchronize if the card terminal was plugged in. All telephone devices must be filtered. These include burglar alarms, Sky boxes, fax machines and anything else with a dial-up modem inside it (like your card terminal?)... as well as telephones. The router causes high frequency noise on the line which will kill off any dial-up data connection unless the dial-up device has a filter. Likewise, most dial-up devices will interfere with the ADSL signal from the router and degrade or kill off the broadband connection. An unfiltered telephone will be unusable due to the noise. Like Paul says, plug your card terminal into a microfilter and all will probably be wonderful. Ken Michael Woodhouse wrote: > Ken > > Sorry. Let me explain in more detail. > > A single line into the house. > > At the terminal there are two lines , one to the office and one to the > hall. > > The office only has the card machine attached. > > The hall has the BT wireless router and the phone/fax/answer phone > attached. > > The upgrade to the card machine can only happen if I unplug the BT > wireless router, thus disabling the phone/fax/answer phone and the > wireless connection to the Imac. > > What seems odd to me is that the hall and office have a different wire > or does the fact that the router is attached feed back into the main > line? > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:07, Ken Hamer wrote: > > >> Michael, >> >> I'm confused as to where your microfilters (if any) are. If you can >> be >> a bit more precise about how things are connected, it might become >> clearer. For example, the router will not be plugged into the hall >> phone but rather into a microfilter which is plugged into the BT >> socket. The phone will probably be plugged into another socket on the >> microfilter. At least that's how it should be. How are things >> plugged >> in at the office end? What is plugged into what? >> >> Ken >> >> Michael Woodhouse wrote: >> >>> Guys >>> >>> Thoughts on an anomaly. >>> >>> I accept credit cards for my dot com enterprise with no problems. I'm >>> on BT broad band and again this works OK. >>> >>> Now occasionally my credit card provider updates the software on my >>> card terminal. However this fails if the broad band wireless hub is >>> connected. >>> >>> The incomming line is split at the terminal, one line goes to the >>> office and the card terminal and one line to the hall and the phone. >>> The BT wireless router is connected to the hall phone. If I leave the >>> broad band to the phone connected the update fails. If I pull the >>> plug >>> on the broad band it is AOK. >>> >>> As the line is split at source not via the phone and thus the router, >>> how does this happen? Is there a way around this.? I've had chats >>> with >>> the card provider and they say it's a broad band issue. >>> >>> Michael Woodhouse >>> mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk >>> http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 18:35:31 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:35:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59CB7D9D-9E9B-4D58-A199-34B09B03DB02@gmail.com> Ken wrote > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults WPA PSK > > > Actually, many routers come with their wireless access points up and > running (factory defaults). Indeed, one major drawback of Netgear > routers is that they default to an unencrypted network with an SSID of > NETGEAR. Not ideal but if the owner runs the setup disk, it will > guide > them through the enabling of encryption. BT Home Hubs come > encrypted by > default and are supplied with a card with the SSID and encryption key > printed on it. They used to have WEP but now have WPA. The > encryption > is factory default. Other routers have a factory default of the > wireless access point disabled completely. > > I've just realized that this reply was neither funny nor from Robbie > so > Stefan probably deleted it without looking at it. So why did I > bother? Well, I always read replies that agree with me too! I should have said that. Your point about Netgear coming with an unsecured wireless facility is the point I made, there is no password set. Yes, I did know about BT's key.. but I'd forgotten I knew. or I knew I'd forgotten, or rather I know now I had forgotten. In a way, I'd prefer not to have a hardwired key on my modem.. that way, whenever I boot out whoever's been camping with me I can change the key to something new that I can forget the next time I connect. It's a good idea to change your SSID (the name your wireless network is given) to something you will recognize but which won't identify either your location or your modem make. The first point is that (not to be paranoid) it's nobody's bloody business whether you have wireless or not, so why advertise the fact, and the second is it makes it marginally harder to hack into your network if the perp doesn't know the modem make. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 18:39:09 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:39:09 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering Message-ID: I think there's a solution whereby you fit a replacement wallplate at the entry point of your phoneline. This new plate contains all the filtering you need for the whole house so you don't need microfilters at any other point, AND I think it gives you a better signal/noise ratio so your speed is improved too. I think it costs 25 nicker from Maplins. Am I right on this, or am I losing it? From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Wed Jul 8 19:21:26 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:21:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] credit card facilities In-Reply-To: <4A54D598.4090101@stackyard.org> References: <4A54C43D.6020301@stackyard.org> <5FDB39A9-092F-49A4-9351-E280483C10D5@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> <4A54D598.4090101@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <855F8011-38BF-4A52-B70E-639B972F623A@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Thanks guys a filter has been ordered. Why couldn't Streamline help tell me this? Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 8 Jul 2009, at 18:21, Ken Hamer wrote: > Sorry, I'm not really any wiser but as Paul has just pointed out, if > the > card terminal has no microfilter, it will not work when the router is > plugged into the phone line. Depending on your distance from the > telephone exchange, I also wouldn't expect the router to synchronize > if > the card terminal was plugged in. All telephone devices must be > filtered. These include burglar alarms, Sky boxes, fax machines and > anything else with a dial-up modem inside it (like your card > terminal?)... as well as telephones. The router causes high frequency > noise on the line which will kill off any dial-up data connection > unless > the dial-up device has a filter. Likewise, most dial-up devices will > interfere with the ADSL signal from the router and degrade or kill off > the broadband connection. An unfiltered telephone will be unusable > due > to the noise. > > Like Paul says, plug your card terminal into a microfilter and all > will > probably be wonderful. > > Ken > > Michael Woodhouse wrote: >> Ken >> >> Sorry. Let me explain in more detail. >> >> A single line into the house. >> >> At the terminal there are two lines , one to the office and one to >> the >> hall. >> >> The office only has the card machine attached. >> >> The hall has the BT wireless router and the phone/fax/answer phone >> attached. >> >> The upgrade to the card machine can only happen if I unplug the BT >> wireless router, thus disabling the phone/fax/answer phone and the >> wireless connection to the Imac. >> >> What seems odd to me is that the hall and office have a different >> wire >> or does the fact that the router is attached feed back into the main >> line? >> >> Michael Woodhouse >> mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk >> http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> On 8 Jul 2009, at 17:07, Ken Hamer wrote: >> >> >>> Michael, >>> >>> I'm confused as to where your microfilters (if any) are. If you can >>> be >>> a bit more precise about how things are connected, it might become >>> clearer. For example, the router will not be plugged into the hall >>> phone but rather into a microfilter which is plugged into the BT >>> socket. The phone will probably be plugged into another socket on >>> the >>> microfilter. At least that's how it should be. How are things >>> plugged >>> in at the office end? What is plugged into what? >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> Michael Woodhouse wrote: >>> >>>> Guys >>>> >>>> Thoughts on an anomaly. >>>> >>>> I accept credit cards for my dot com enterprise with no problems. >>>> I'm >>>> on BT broad band and again this works OK. >>>> >>>> Now occasionally my credit card provider updates the software on my >>>> card terminal. However this fails if the broad band wireless hub is >>>> connected. >>>> >>>> The incomming line is split at the terminal, one line goes to the >>>> office and the card terminal and one line to the hall and the >>>> phone. >>>> The BT wireless router is connected to the hall phone. If I leave >>>> the >>>> broad band to the phone connected the update fails. If I pull the >>>> plug >>>> on the broad band it is AOK. >>>> >>>> As the line is split at source not via the phone and thus the >>>> router, >>>> how does this happen? Is there a way around this.? I've had chats >>>> with >>>> the card provider and they say it's a broad band issue. >>>> >>>> Michael Woodhouse >>>> mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk >>>> http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 8 19:39:02 2009 From: stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk (Stair) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:39:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <205701.56209.qm@web26106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Simon, Norwich, Carrow Road. That would be good. Cheers, Stair From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Jul 8 20:41:48 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:41:48 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <719E0808-C612-4CCE-9936-2C1A344FA344@durrant.co.uk> Sorry - I must have missed the mention of an iBook earlier. If it has the original 802.11b Airport card instead of an 802.11g Aiport Express Card, it can't handle WPA. WEP is better than nothing - it will keep out casual browsers - but do bear in mind that WEP encryption can be broken in a matter of minutes with the right equipment. Paul On 8 Jul 2009, at 16:42, Alan Williams wrote: > Further to prev long story I have now connected wirelessly with no > problem using either no security or WEP as Simon suggested . Does this > mean that my ibook cant handle WPA ? > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 21:51:17 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:51:17 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults In-Reply-To: <59CB7D9D-9E9B-4D58-A199-34B09B03DB02@gmail.com> References: <59CB7D9D-9E9B-4D58-A199-34B09B03DB02@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5506C5.8020405@stackyard.org> So was that a known known, a known unknown or an unknown unknown? I agree with you about SSIDs. I always change it to something cryptic, otherwise they know who your broadband provider or router manufacturer is. Some people use their family name or house. Bizarre. Why advertise? Ken stefan youngs wrote: > > Well, I always read replies that agree with me too! I should have said > that. > > Your point about Netgear coming with an unsecured wireless facility is > the point I made, there is no password set. Yes, I did know about BT's > key.. but I'd forgotten I knew. or I knew I'd forgotten, or rather I > know now I had forgotten. In a way, I'd prefer not to have a hardwired > key on my modem.. that way, whenever I boot out whoever's been camping > with me I can change the key to something new that I can forget the > next time I connect. > > It's a good idea to change your SSID (the name your wireless network > is given) to something you will recognize but which won't identify > either your location or your modem make. The first point is that (not > to be paranoid) it's nobody's bloody business whether you have > wireless or not, so why advertise the fact, and the second is it makes > it marginally harder to hack into your network if the perp doesn't > know the modem make. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Wed Jul 8 22:12:38 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:12:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A550BC6.8050806@stackyard.org> No, right again! However, you may be losing it nonetheless. There are two products actually. You can get a filter faceplate which replaces the faceplate of a BT master socket (NTE5). This has a BT and RJ11 (clear, cubic, American phone plug) socket on the front rather like a microfilter. They filter all the house wiring and are BRILLIANT especially when you live in a house with convoluted, old telephone wiring. When far from a telephone exchange, they can boost the SNR enough to get a decent download speed when before, the router wouldn't even sync. It means that the router has to be near the master socket which is not always practical but usually OK using wireless or HomePlug devices or in extreme cases, a costly shift of the master socket but, still, better than no broadband. They are available from BroadBandBuyer (http://tinyurl.com/mu36bp) for about a tenner. I've lost count of the number of people who would not have had broadband had it not been for these things. BT will actually fit them for free if you get them to do a shift of the master socket. There is also the BT iPlate which just filters noise from the ring wire. We tried one here and it helped a bit but didn't give the same lift in SNR as a filter faceplate so I'm underwhelmed. Ken stefan youngs wrote: > I think there's a solution whereby you fit a replacement wallplate at > the entry point of your phoneline. This new plate contains all the > filtering you need for the whole house so you don't need microfilters > at any other point, AND I think it gives you a better signal/noise > ratio so your speed is improved too. > > I think it costs 25 nicker from Maplins. > > Am I right on this, or am I losing it? > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 22:16:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:16:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] WPA PSK In-Reply-To: <719E0808-C612-4CCE-9936-2C1A344FA344@durrant.co.uk> References: <719E0808-C612-4CCE-9936-2C1A344FA344@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Paul I remember reading somewhere that the later original Airport cards, even though there were 11b could handle WPA. This is all pointless now as the original problem in question is resolved. Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 20:41, Paul Durrant wrote: > Sorry - I must have missed the mention of an iBook earlier. If it has > the original 802.11b Airport card instead of an 802.11g Aiport Express > Card, it can't handle WPA. WEP is better than nothing - it will keep > out casual browsers - but do bear in mind that WEP encryption can be > broken in a matter of minutes with the right equipment. > > Paul > > > On 8 Jul 2009, at 16:42, Alan Williams wrote: > >> Further to prev long story I have now connected wirelessly with no >> problem using either no security or WEP as Simon suggested . Does >> this >> mean that my ibook cant handle WPA ? >> > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From macman at f2s.com Wed Jul 8 22:23:33 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:23:33 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults In-Reply-To: <4A5506C5.8020405@stackyard.org> References: <59CB7D9D-9E9B-4D58-A199-34B09B03DB02@gmail.com> <4A5506C5.8020405@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <1B789261-F986-4B5E-B345-6B266F58EC1E@f2s.com> To tell the world they have broadband? Robbie On 8 Jul 2009, at 21:51, Ken Hamer wrote: Some people use their family name or house. Bizarre. Why advertise? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Jul 8 22:26:26 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:26:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Modem/Router defaults In-Reply-To: <1B789261-F986-4B5E-B345-6B266F58EC1E@f2s.com> References: <59CB7D9D-9E9B-4D58-A199-34B09B03DB02@gmail.com> <4A5506C5.8020405@stackyard.org> <1B789261-F986-4B5E-B345-6B266F58EC1E@f2s.com> Message-ID: <26FBB07E-6CBF-49FF-8027-DF0C7ABDDF95@simonroyal.co.uk> Robbie When I go away for the weekend I change my SSID to 'ImNotAtHomeForTwoDaysAndMyBroadbandIsWideOpen' and obviously I turn off encryption. Simon On 8 Jul 2009, at 22:23, Robbie Murray wrote: > To tell the world they have broadband? > > Robbie > On 8 Jul 2009, at 21:51, Ken Hamer wrote: > > Some people use their family name or house. Bizarre. Why advertise? > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Jul 8 23:51:04 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:51:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy to displace Windows Message-ID: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> I hadn't seen this before http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2578115/Googles-Windows-rival-to-be-free I am glad they are on our side! From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Jul 9 07:39:43 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:39:43 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy to displace Windows In-Reply-To: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> References: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> Hmmmm... Looks like another purpose-built GUI running on a UNIX-like OS. Sound familiar? A rival to OS X perhaps, as well as Windows. stefan youngs wrote: > I hadn't seen this before > > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2578115/Googles-Windows-rival-to-be-free > > I am glad they are on our side! > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Jul 9 09:10:25 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:10:25 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy to displace Windows In-Reply-To: <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> References: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Ken A rival to both and being free in both senses of the word, sure will make it appealing to a lot of people. Google do have a habit of dominating any market they venture into. Time will tell. Simon On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:39, Ken Hamer wrote: > Hmmmm... Looks like another purpose-built GUI running on a UNIX-like > OS. Sound familiar? A rival to OS X perhaps, as well as Windows. > > stefan youngs wrote: >> I hadn't seen this before >> >> >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2578115/Googles-Windows-rival-to-be-free >> >> I am glad they are on our side! >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 09:48:21 2009 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:48:21 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy to displace Windows In-Reply-To: <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> References: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> Message-ID: hardly, just another linux distro amongst the thousands out there already! On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Ken Hamer wrote: > Hmmmm... Looks like another purpose-built GUI running on a UNIX-like > OS. ?Sound familiar? ?A rival to OS X perhaps, as well as Windows. > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Jul 9 09:54:28 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:54:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy to displace Windows In-Reply-To: References: <2EC5939D-30CD-4E34-8F58-2D83B3DFD0C5@gmail.com> <4A5590AF.4030606@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Scott It might be, but it is backed by Google, a giant in the online world. Simon On 9 Jul 2009, at 09:48, Scott Matthews wrote: > hardly, just another linux distro amongst the thousands out there > already! > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Ken Hamer > wrote: >> Hmmmm... Looks like another purpose-built GUI running on a UNIX-like >> OS. Sound familiar? A rival to OS X perhaps, as well as Windows. >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Jul 9 12:38:38 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:38:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Google's strategy v Windows Message-ID: <5DBA2EA9-F57F-42A8-AB0C-E409D69B1FB8@gmail.com> Firstly, nobody who has lived and worked in Silicon Valley will underestimate the determination of luminaries in the Valley to bring the locus of computing back firmly into the Valley. There have been 2 decades of having to deal with the fact that whilst most innovation comes from the Valley, a LOT of the profit ends up in Redmond. Therefore a viable strategy to unseat Microsoft will have a LOT of Valley support. Even Microsoft could not outspend the money in the Valley, not only from the companies there but also the bulk of US high tech Venture Capital coming from Palo Alto. Google and Apple are both highly regarded. Together they make a formidable team. Bear in mind Google's Chrome uses Apple's Webkit engine which powers more than a browser, it's used across a range of Apple applications... this sharing partnership probably sends shivers through Redmond. I would not be surprised therefore to see a Google OS use parts of OSX. This would be seen by Apple as win-win, they have their own market buying into the integrated hardware/software supplier niche which is most unlikely to shift to a Google OS, and now they get to take some of Microsoft's OS market as Google attacks with their application portfolio and now their OS. When Google unwraps an implementation for all the thousands of miles of dark fibre (installed but unused fibre optics of incredible capacity) they bought up over the past 5 years and ties it into Apple's unannounced but probable WiMAX product line (long range wireless hot spots), bingo! Apple doesn't need ATT anymore because it will have it's own cellular-like network. Bear in mind an iPhone user spends some $4000 over 5 years for his iPhone and service, of which Apple only gets a few hundred for the phone... they could have the lot if they had their own network AND do a much better job of serving the customer. Moral of the story? Buy Apple stock, and Google of course. it may well be wishful thinking, but I think I see the sun setting on Microsoft's dominance. From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Jul 9 22:40:36 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:40:36 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses I was told earlier this year. However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not Mail. 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and if in a Library, which one. Thanks Anthony From macman at f2s.com Thu Jul 9 23:13:46 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:13:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. The tracks are nested down in the bowels - HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. Hopefully someone may have the answer. Good luck! Robbie On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses I was told earlier this year. However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not Mail. 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and if in a Library, which one. Thanks Anthony _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Jul 9 23:18:07 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:18:07 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Retail Store info Message-ID: <9C44B3D1-62F5-48BB-8F91-C2251DF9C367@gmail.com> With the imminent arrival of our Norwich store, I thought you might be interested in this financial info on Apple's retail operation. I had not realized how huge this is. http://www.ifoapplestore.com/stores/charts_graphs.html From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Thu Jul 9 23:23:58 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:23:58 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ken wrote > They are available from BroadBandBuyer > (http://tinyurl.com/mu36bp) for about a tenner. I've lost count of > the > number of people who would not have had broadband had it not been for > these things. Thanks for this info. I've ordered one and will report on the improvement I see on my line. My brother Baz is at the end of a very long exchange line and only gets 500K on a supposedly 8MB service so I may well be able to persuade him to install one too. Why doesn't everyone have one? From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Thu Jul 9 23:33:15 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:33:15 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> Message-ID: Hi Robbie I didn't find it that easy either going from my old G4 to my new MacPro ( Thanks to Jon) I have just lost my address book on O/S 10.5.7. it didn't copy the files across so I copied the old one and it replaced the new one...now the old one won't work with the new O/S! Any ideas ( without reinstalling the o/s yet again) Martin > Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? > I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does > exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. > The tracks are nested down in the bowels - > HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even > attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. > > Hopefully someone may have the answer. > > Good luck! > > Robbie > > On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most > of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail > were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses > I was told earlier this year. > > However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the > Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on > the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and > also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not > connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately > go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari > does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not > Mail. > > 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with > an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into > the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way > is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots > of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and > if in a Library, which one. > > Thanks > > Anthony > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry martinfry.photo at virgin.net From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Jul 9 23:42:08 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:42:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> The bad news (which I forgot to mention) is that they don't always work. If someone has only one telephone socket in their house, i.e. the master socket, a filter faceplate won't have anything to filter so won't have any effect. They're most effective when the internal telephone wiring is complex with multiple sockets and lots of wiring, telephony devices, etc., etc. So if your brother has only one socket, it won't help him. If he has countless sockets and phones, it will do him good. Do you know how many he has? How many do you have? Ken stefan youngs wrote: > Ken wrote > > >> They are available from BroadBandBuyer >> (http://tinyurl.com/mu36bp) for about a tenner. I've lost count of >> the >> number of people who would not have had broadband had it not been for >> these things. >> > > > Thanks for this info. I've ordered one and will report on the > improvement I see on my line. > > My brother Baz is at the end of a very long exchange line and only > gets 500K on a supposedly 8MB service so I may well be able to > persuade him to install one too. Why doesn't everyone have one? > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From bazyoungs at mac.com Thu Jul 9 23:53:32 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:53:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> References: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> Hi Ken and Stefan I only have one phone socket so it appears that this bit of gubbins will not help me, thanks for the info anyway as I'm sure that it will be handy for a few of our members. I am actually getting 1.4 Mbps and it is fairly consistent, I live in Spixworth and the exchange is apparently in St Faiths which is why I cannot get the decent speeds of others. So saying, I am generally happy with my connection as it rarely drops out or gives me any problems although it can be very frustrating waiting for videos/you tube etc. to view, but just general surfing it is adequate. Baz On 9 Jul 2009, at 23:42, Ken Hamer wrote: > The bad news (which I forgot to mention) is that they don't always > work. The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Thu Jul 9 23:59:12 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:59:12 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> Message-ID: <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> Martin, How have you attempted to put the old address data in place? You should be able to do an import (File->Import->Address Book Archive...) from the old address archive into a blank new address book. Ken Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Robbie > > I didn't find it that easy either going from my old G4 to my new > MacPro ( Thanks to Jon) > I > have just lost my address book on O/S 10.5.7. it didn't copy the > files across so I copied the old one and it replaced the new one...now > the old > > one won't work with the new O/S! > > Any ideas ( without reinstalling the o/s yet again) > > Martin > > > > > >> Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? >> I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does >> exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. >> The tracks are nested down in the bowels - >> HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even >> attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. >> >> Hopefully someone may have the answer. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Robbie >> >> On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: >> >> Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most >> of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail >> were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses >> I was told earlier this year. >> >> However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the >> Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on >> the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and >> also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not >> connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately >> go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari >> does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not >> Mail. >> >> 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with >> an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into >> the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way >> is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots >> of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and >> if in a Library, which one. >> >> Thanks >> >> Anthony >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Martin Fry > martinfry.photo at virgin.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 00:23:19 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:23:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> References: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> Message-ID: <4A567BE7.8000800@stackyard.org> Barry, This is all highly inexact but I just did a very rough measurement using a ruler and Google maps comparing your distance from your telephone exchange and my distance from mine which is made rougher due to the fact that I don't know where in Spixworth you are, telephone lines not running in straight lines, etc. You seem to be getting a bit of a raw deal as you are getting a slightly slower speed than I am (I get about 1.6Mbps) while living quite a bit closer to your exchange than I do to mine. What you might try is a better microfilter. They have different filtering characteristics and the ones that look like simple telephone line splitters tend not to be very good at filtering. Get something like an ADSLNation XF-1e from BroadBandBuyer (http://tinyurl.com/gop45) just to make sure you have decent filtering. You might also want to bounce your router every once in a while. Who is your ISP? Ken Barry Youngs wrote: > Hi Ken and Stefan > I only have one phone socket so it appears that this bit of gubbins > will not help me, thanks for the info anyway as I'm sure that it will > be handy for a few of our members. > I am actually getting 1.4 Mbps and it is fairly consistent, I live in > Spixworth and the exchange is apparently in St Faiths which is why I > cannot get the decent speeds of others. > So saying, I am generally happy with my connection as it rarely drops > out or gives me any problems although it can be very frustrating > waiting for videos/you tube etc. to view, but just general surfing it > is adequate. > Baz > On 9 Jul 2009, at 23:42, Ken Hamer wrote: > > >> The bad news (which I forgot to mention) is that they don't always >> work. >> > > The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From bazyoungs at mac.com Fri Jul 10 00:36:49 2009 From: bazyoungs at mac.com (Barry Youngs) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:36:49 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: <4A567BE7.8000800@stackyard.org> References: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> <4A567BE7.8000800@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Thanks Ken I will get myself another filter and give that a go, it's not surprising that it may be the problem as I haven't changed it since I got it! I hadn't even thought of doing so, I also thought that all microfilters were around about the same. I am very loathe to reset the router whilst it is still (seemingly) working but I will also now do this from time to time, thanks for those suggestions. My ISP is BT and I have been with them for a few years now, it's funny but my other brother (Kelvin) and I were checking out alternative ISPs just over the last weekend. It's just that I use BT Option 3 which gives me unlimited downloads, not that I download a huge amount, I don't like the idea of having to keep an eye on the amount that I do use. Regards Barry On 10 Jul 2009, at 00:23, Ken Hamer wrote: > Barry, > > This is all highly inexact but I just did a very rough measurement > using > a ruler and Google maps comparing your distance from your telephone > exchange and my distance from mine which is made rougher due to the > fact > that I don't know where in Spixworth you are, telephone lines not > running in straight lines, etc. You seem to be getting a bit of a raw > deal as you are getting a slightly slower speed than I am (I get about > 1.6Mbps) while living quite a bit closer to your exchange than I do to > mine. What you might try is a better microfilter. They have > different > filtering characteristics and the ones that look like simple telephone > line splitters tend not to be very good at filtering. Get something > like an ADSLNation XF-1e from BroadBandBuyer (http://tinyurl.com/ > gop45) > just to make sure you have decent filtering. You might also want to > bounce your router every once in a while. Who is your ISP? If it's going cheap it's a baby chicken. From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 00:55:45 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:55:45 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: References: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> <4A567BE7.8000800@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4A568381.3020807@stackyard.org> I was thinking about data throttling which some ISPs do. I think BT are OK in this regard. The worst offender (on many counts) has a name that begins with a "T". What is your router model? You might want to try a new one as well. Ken Barry Youngs wrote: > Thanks Ken > I will get myself another filter and give that a go, it's not > surprising that it may be the problem as I haven't changed it since I > got it! > I hadn't even thought of doing so, I also thought that all > microfilters were around about the same. > I am very loathe to reset the router whilst it is still (seemingly) > working but I will also now do this from time to time, thanks for > those suggestions. > My ISP is BT and I have been with them for a few years now, it's funny > but my other brother (Kelvin) and I were checking out alternative ISPs > just over the last weekend. It's just that I use BT Option 3 which > gives me unlimited downloads, not that I download a huge amount, I > don't like the idea of having to keep an eye on the amount that I do > use. > Regards > Barry > On 10 Jul 2009, at 00:23, Ken Hamer wrote: > > > From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Fri Jul 10 01:00:39 2009 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:00:39 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering In-Reply-To: <4A568381.3020807@stackyard.org> References: <4A567240.4040207@stackyard.org> <313E88A9-7497-4BEA-AB9E-8F72EA81652F@mac.com> <4A567BE7.8000800@stackyard.org> <4A568381.3020807@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <5715D996-D492-4BA3-896E-6C05A37D10FA@mac.com> Well said Ken - trying to get our brother "not" to accept what "they" say ? you will help! On 10 Jul 2009, at 00:55, Ken Hamer wrote: > I was thinking about data throttling which some ISPs do. I think BT > are > OK in this regard. The worst offender (on many counts) has a name > that > begins with a "T". What is your router model? You might want to > try a > new one as well. > > Ken From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Jul 10 07:33:04 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:33:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> Hi Ken I though migration assist would have done that, But I have just tried your way and tried to import from my (G4 applications backup)/ address book , but it is greyed out and cannot import from it Regards Martin > > How have you attempted to put the old address data in place? You > should > be able to do an import (File->Import->Address Book Archive...) from > the > old address archive into a blank new address book. > > Ken > > Martin Fry wrote: >> Hi Robbie >> >> I didn't find it that easy either going from my old G4 to my new >> MacPro ( Thanks to Jon) >> I >> have just lost my address book on O/S 10.5.7. it didn't copy the >> files across so I copied the old one and it replaced the new >> one...now >> the old >> >> one won't work with the new O/S! >> >> Any ideas ( without reinstalling the o/s yet again) >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> >>> Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? >>> I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does >>> exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. >>> The tracks are nested down in the bowels - >>> HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even >>> attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. >>> >>> Hopefully someone may have the answer. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Robbie >>> >>> On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most >>> of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail >>> were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing >>> addresses >>> I was told earlier this year. >>> >>> However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the >>> Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly >>> on >>> the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and >>> also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not >>> connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can >>> immediately >>> go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari >>> does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not >>> Mail. >>> >>> 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use >>> with >>> an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into >>> the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This >>> way >>> is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes >>> lots >>> of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, >>> and >>> if in a Library, which one. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Anthony >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >> >> Martin Fry >> martinfry.photo at virgin.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry martinfry.photo at virgin.net From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 09:03:02 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:03:02 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4A56F5B6.5040806@stackyard.org> I've not been keeping track of this thread so I don't know if you have any of the old data left? If so, the Address Book data is (was) in /Library/Application Support/AddressBook and is a file called AddressBook- and has a size dependant on the number of contacts. Mine is about 2.5MB for about 1500 contacts. Is this the one that is greyed-out? Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Ken > > I though migration assist would have done that, But I have just tried > your way and tried to import from my (G4 applications backup)/ address > book , but it is greyed out and cannot import from it > > Regards > > Martin > > > > From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Fri Jul 10 09:21:21 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:21:21 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> Message-ID: <6C3AE2A6-3BCB-4672-918E-E51997FB6D12@themagic.me.uk> Robbie I wrote a reply last night from my ITouch but it would not send ? no password the excuse but there was one and I re-synced accounts to no avail. Anyway, to reply, I did use Mig Asst but it did not take the ITunes data, or the Mail or Safari data but I have dealt with these two. If no more suggestions I'll have to drag, or maybe contact Apple. Thanks Anthony On 9 Jul 2009, at 23:13, Robbie Murray wrote: > Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? > I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does > exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. > The tracks are nested down in the bowels - > HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even > attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. > > Hopefully someone may have the answer. > > Good luck! > > Robbie > > On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most > of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail > were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses > I was told earlier this year. > > However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the > Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on > the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and > also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not > connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately > go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari > does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not > Mail. > > 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with > an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into > the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way > is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots > of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and > if in a Library, which one. > > Thanks > > Anthony > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 09:38:25 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:38:25 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month Message-ID: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi In a moment of madness I decided to take a picture of one of our chicks sitting on my PowerBook and send it in to Macenstein for their 'Mac Chick Of The Month' feature. Surprisingly, they published it. http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4846 I have just sent some more pictures to them. Hilarious. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Fri Jul 10 09:48:45 2009 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael Andrews) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:48:45 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon - Excellent. My first genuinely laugh out loud of the day ! Rachael From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Fri Jul 10 10:04:16 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:04:16 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <4A56F5B6.5040806@stackyard.org> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> <4A56F5B6.5040806@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <754CD137-70A7-43E3-8151-1990A81399BE@virgin.net> Hi Ken Done. I copied the old folders to a pen drive and imported them from there to mail Can I do the same for the address book I wonder? Where are the old files for this please? Martin. > I've not been keeping track of this thread so I don't know if you have > any of the old data left? If so, the Address Book data is (was) in > /Library/Application Support/AddressBook and is a file > called AddressBook- and has a size dependant on the > number > of contacts. Mine is about 2.5MB for about 1500 contacts. Is this > the > one that is greyed-out? > > Martin Fry wrote: >> Hi Ken >> >> I though migration assist would have done that, But I have just tried >> your way and tried to import from my (G4 applications backup)/ >> address >> book , but it is greyed out and cannot import from it >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry martinfry.photo at virgin.net From minkennison at mac.com Fri Jul 10 10:09:08 2009 From: minkennison at mac.com (Min Kennison) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:09:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: super picture SImon Min On 10 Jul 2009, at 09:3810 Jul 2009, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > In a moment of madness I decided to take a picture of one of our > chicks sitting on my PowerBook and send it in to Macenstein for their > 'Mac Chick Of The Month' feature. > > Surprisingly, they published it. > > http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4846 > > I have just sent some more pictures to them. Hilarious. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Fri Jul 10 10:47:54 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:47:54 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <754CD137-70A7-43E3-8151-1990A81399BE@virgin.net> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> <4A56F5B6.5040806@stackyard.org> <754CD137-70A7-43E3-8151-1990A81399BE@virgin.net> Message-ID: <926A71D0-61A3-469D-9152-62A25FBDDEE7@f2s.com> Try Library>ApplicationSupport>AddressBook>Metadata Robbie On 10 Jul 2009, at 10:04, Martin Fry wrote: Hi Ken Done. I copied the old folders to a pen drive and imported them from there to mail Can I do the same for the address book I wonder? Where are the old files for this please? Martin. > I've not been keeping track of this thread so I don't know if you have > any of the old data left? If so, the Address Book data is (was) in > /Library/Application Support/AddressBook and is a file > called AddressBook- and has a size dependant on the > number > of contacts. Mine is about 2.5MB for about 1500 contacts. Is this > the > one that is greyed-out? > > Martin Fry wrote: >> Hi Ken >> >> I though migration assist would have done that, But I have just tried >> your way and tried to import from my (G4 applications backup)/ >> address >> book , but it is greyed out and cannot import from it >> >> Regards >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Martin Fry martinfry.photo at virgin.net _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 11:42:19 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:42:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision Message-ID: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Fri Jul 10 12:37:19 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:37:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <402BE67C-08A5-4161-A54E-814DC4A90E79@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> I've been using BT Home Hub since Jan 2008 without any real issues. It was set up quickly and easily and has worked fine. The odd glitch has really been nothing to worry about and probably no fault of the BT Home Hub. It all works well with my ISP Blackfoot, who by the way are excellent. I've been with Blackfoot since 2001 when I started with credit cards on my web site, nary an issue. Small problems sorted dead quick. I'm staying with both after all the issues that I hear from others and their providers. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 10 Jul 2009, at 11:42, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. > > I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking > their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. > > I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, > plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. > > Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Jul 10 12:53:57 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:53:57 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering/linetests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8048522E-5D1A-46F3-9347-D5343981FF11@gmail.com> Ken wrote > Subject: Re: [NMUG] ADSL filtering > > > The bad news (which I forgot to mention) is that they don't always > work. If someone has only one telephone socket in their house, i.e. > the > master socket, a filter faceplate won't have anything to filter so > won't > have any effect. Now he tells me! So that's 10 nicker down the tube is it? I've bought the thing now and will therefore try it out. If as you say, it don't do no good, guv'nor then do not expect me to laugh at any of your future jokes! My (limited) understanding is that the filter circuits it uses are superior to the cheapo flying lead type filters and this would generate some improvement in signal/noise ratio and hence maximum throughput. We shall see Mr Harmer. I am on the Thorpe Exchange and get about 4.5MB max on the BT linespeed test, but I've never got a download to go above 800Kb even when I've been connected to tens of seeds and peers. I once found a site that ran a linetest that told the maximum I could get from my connection, along with the distance from the exchange. I cannot now find that site. Can anyone help? From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Fri Jul 10 12:54:59 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:54:59 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear Simon I transferred to BT at Xmas because a sales person rang and offered it for ?10 per month so I decided to switch for the following reasons: an 0800 number for problems, free calls after 6 and weekends. Being a computer idiot, I found the installation perfectly easy despite my fears. The only problem I have is that my answer machine doesn't work through the hub - it has interference when people leave a message. I also use a cheap daytime call provider which, of course, won't work through the hub. So I have to unplug the hub and plug in answermachine when I go out or to use phone during day. I run a business from home so I want the answer machine rather than 1471. I also found problems with 1471/1571. It doesn't work with the phone plugged in the hub. I spoke to BT and they referred me to phone problems who referred me back to broadband and so on until I lost my temper and they put the phone down on me! Why not!?!! A person with your technical knowledge would probably know how to fix all of that but I have just got used to living with it, but it was confusing and annoying in the beginning. Regards Jules On 7/10/09, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. > > I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking > their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. > > I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, > plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. > > Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Fri Jul 10 13:04:52 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:04:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: References: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon As I'm about to become a Mother Hen next week, well not chicks, just 3 hens - new house waiting patiently for them - I am surprised to find you a chick nut!? Jules On 7/10/09, Min Kennison wrote: > super picture SImon > > > Min > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 09:3810 Jul 2009, Simon Royal wrote: > > > Hi > > > > In a moment of madness I decided to take a picture of one of our > > chicks sitting on my PowerBook and send it in to Macenstein for their > > 'Mac Chick Of The Month' feature. > > > > Surprisingly, they published it. > > > > http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4846 > > > > I have just sent some more pictures to them. Hilarious. > > > > Simon Royal > > --- > > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NMUG mailing list > > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Fri Jul 10 13:17:32 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:17:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Congratulations Simon. Great idea Nathan On 10 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > In a moment of madness I decided to take a picture of one of our > chicks sitting on my PowerBook and send it in to Macenstein for their > 'Mac Chick Of The Month' feature. > > Surprisingly, they published it. > > http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4846 > > I have just sent some more pictures to them. Hilarious. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Fri Jul 10 13:19:32 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (Nathan Crosby) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:19:32 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: References: <6E7002BD-F954-4952-8ADF-45454056220C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: As long as it doesn't have a chickpea on his Mac Nathan On 10 Jul 2009, at 13:04, Jules Slaughter wrote: > I am surprised to find > you a chick nut!? > >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Thu Jul 9 23:26:02 2009 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:26:02 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> Message-ID: <725570C2-039F-43E4-BC0C-E3EA910D892D@themagic.me.uk> Thanks Robbie. I did use mig asst but it did not transfer the iTunes data. Anthony On 9 Jul 2009, at 23:13, Robbie Murray wrote: > Didn't you use Migration Assistant as suggested? > I've replaced countless machines and never had a problem - it does > exactly what it says on the tin, including iTunes. > The tracks are nested down in the bowels - > HD>User>Music>iTunes>iTunesMusic>Albums>Tracks, but I wouldn't even > attempt to drag them over, as I don't think it's that simple. > > Hopefully someone may have the answer. > > Good luck! > > Robbie > > On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:40, Anthony Brahams wrote: > > Thanks for all the help. I have taken the necessary actions and most > of the files etc. are in the new MacBook. Those for Safari and Mail > were entered manually and I shall try the ways for importing addresses > I was told earlier this year. > > However the big problnems are: 1. IPlayer, does not work on the > Macbook because of "insufficient Bandwith" yet it worked perfectly on > the old Powerbook in Firefox. The latest Safari on this Macbook and > also on my iMac sometimes will not brig up a website saying "Not > connected to the Internet" which is rubbish because I can immediately > go to Mail and find the computer (either one) is connected. Safari > does connect later. Browser has been slow most of this evening. Not > Mail. > > 2. I need to transfer to the MacBook all the ITunes data for use with > an iPod. I suppose I could load everything from the old machine into > the iPod and sync. into the MacBook from it, if it has room. This way > is not very satisfactory as the data has been sorted (it includes lots > of podcasts). So please, where can it be found in the old machine, and > if in a Library, which one. > > Thanks > > Anthony > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Fri Jul 10 13:37:39 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:37:39 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Bluetooth Keyboard problem Message-ID: For several months I used an Apple wireless keyboard (the sawn-off aluminium job) with my iMac. One day I was getting weird results with the mouse (also Bluetooth) and came to the conclusion that the keyboard was faulty and was interfering with the mouse. Substituting a white, crumb-tray style keyboard sorted that problem. However, I found that the aluminium keyboard isn't actually faulty. It works OK on another iMac here. Before I had discovered that, I bought a new aluminium keyboard. That doesn't work on my iMac but works fine on the second iMac. Well, it does if a different user is logged in. If I log in (user files copied from other iMac) then the keyboard doesn't work. This must provide a huge clue as to where the problem is but I still have not been able to find what I need to change to restore operation. I have removed the keyboard layout file from my ~/Library. Is there some Universal Access setting that could cause this behaviour. Why would that allow operation with the white keyboard and not the aluminium? Is there some Preferences file I could trash to restore normal operation? I'd be grateful for any ideas on how to fix this. Regards, John From macman at f2s.com Fri Jul 10 13:57:05 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:57:05 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Bluetooth Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CD904D6-5F7A-481D-9F35-5C7CCA44861E@f2s.com> Is the white one corded John? Oddly enough, just in the past 2 days I've had my Bluetooth Mighty Mouse going dead for a few moments, even although I have 3 green bars up on the batteries...... Robbie Murray 01603 620749 01603 516175 07882 007667 macman at f2s.com On 10 Jul 2009, at 13:37, John Garrett wrote: For several months I used an Apple wireless keyboard (the sawn-off aluminium job) with my iMac. One day I was getting weird results with the mouse (also Bluetooth) and came to the conclusion that the keyboard was faulty and was interfering with the mouse. Substituting a white, crumb-tray style keyboard sorted that problem. However, I found that the aluminium keyboard isn't actually faulty. It works OK on another iMac here. Before I had discovered that, I bought a new aluminium keyboard. That doesn't work on my iMac but works fine on the second iMac. Well, it does if a different user is logged in. If I log in (user files copied from other iMac) then the keyboard doesn't work. This must provide a huge clue as to where the problem is but I still have not been able to find what I need to change to restore operation. I have removed the keyboard layout file from my ~/Library. Is there some Universal Access setting that could cause this behaviour. Why would that allow operation with the white keyboard and not the aluminium? Is there some Preferences file I could trash to restore normal operation? I'd be grateful for any ideas on how to fix this. Regards, John _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk Fri Jul 10 14:04:14 2009 From: john at shrubberyfarm.co.uk (John Garrett) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:04:14 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Bluetooth Keyboard problem In-Reply-To: <1CD904D6-5F7A-481D-9F35-5C7CCA44861E@f2s.com> References: <1CD904D6-5F7A-481D-9F35-5C7CCA44861E@f2s.com> Message-ID: <4F4CAF8A-76F3-4B3F-8AA9-6B4D5C48A961@shrubberyfarm.co.uk> No - that's Bluetooth also. Plenty of folk on Apple Discussions complaining about Bluetooth dropouts since 10.5.7 but that's not my problem (yet!). John On 10/07/2009, at 13:57, Robbie Murray wrote: > Is the white one corded John? > > Oddly enough, just in the past 2 days I've had my Bluetooth Mighty > Mouse going dead for a few moments, even although I have 3 green bars > up on the batteries...... > > Robbie Murray From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 10 14:26:40 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:26:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <479058.31158.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I hope you have better luck with the chicks, The hens I gave you did not fair to well!! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Jules Slaughter wrote: From: Jules Slaughter Subject: Re: [NMUG] My Mac Chick Of The Month To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 1:04 PM Simon As I'm about to become a Mother Hen next week, well not chicks, just 3 hens - new house waiting patiently for them - I am surprised to find you a chick nut!? Jules On 7/10/09, Min Kennison wrote: > super picture SImon > > >? Min > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 09:3810 Jul 2009, Simon Royal wrote: > >? > Hi >? > >? > In a moment of madness I decided to take a picture of one of our >? > chicks sitting on my PowerBook and send it in to Macenstein for their >? > 'Mac Chick Of The Month' feature. >? > >? > Surprisingly, they published it. >? > >? > http://macenstein.com/default/archives/4846 >? > >? > I have just sent some more pictures to them. Hilarious. >? > >? > Simon Royal >? > --- >? > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >? > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >? > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >? > >? > >? > >? > >? > _______________________________________________ >? > NMUG mailing list >? > NMUG at durrant.co.uk >? > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >? _______________________________________________ >? NMUG mailing list >? NMUG at durrant.co.uk >? http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 10 15:09:25 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Shamless Norwich Computer Company Plug!! Message-ID: <34001.48345.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi?all ? It gives me great?joy to announce that?Norwich Computer Company is back in business. As we received great support from NMUG users in the past we will be offering a permanent 15% off?to all NMUGers? ? Ours temp address is http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com/index.html? ? Our permanent address will be http://www.apple-macs.eu and will be up and running in the next 48 hours. ? Thanks for reading ? Joe ? ? ? From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 10 15:16:08 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:16:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Edit to last post!! Message-ID: <96296.6664.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> The web address should read http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com Its been a long day!! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 15:25:30 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:25:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Transfer old to new computer In-Reply-To: <754CD137-70A7-43E3-8151-1990A81399BE@virgin.net> References: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480@themagic.me.uk> <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25@themagic.me.uk> <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1@durrant.co.uk> <92B366E6-BB47-4BD9-9E62-3B7DF9B97BDA@themagic.me.uk> <682B13F5-45DB-4249-9483-A9CB8A3AF8B6@f2s.com> <4A567640.90202@stackyard.org> <0F128AF5-38DE-464A-BF27-9B97DB25CD05@virgin.net> <4A56F5B6.5040806@stackyard.org> <754CD137-70A7-43E3-8151-1990A81399BE@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4A574F5A.1080103@stackyard.org> Martin, Sorry, the path I gave in the previous email is where the vital file is. So /Users//Library/Application Support/AddressBook/AddressBook-. Have you still got that file from the previous setup? BTW, just a note about Address Book backups. Everyone who has vital data in their address book (as opposed to a few friends/relations who are easily re-entered) should do a periodic backup in vCard format. Highlight all contacts then File->Export->Export vCard. This will create a nice big TEXT file which can be read by lots of things including humans and can be edited by a proper text editor like vi. It won't save groups but it might just save your backside. So the next time they break Address Book by bringing out an update (happened to me about 6 months ago), you can import it all again without agony. The file can also be read into the likes of (shudder) Outlook, as long as you have a plug-in which allows import of multiple vCards in one file. Ken Martin Fry wrote: > Hi Ken > > Done. I copied the old folders to a pen drive and imported them from > there to mail > > Can I do the same for the address book I wonder? > > Where are the old files for this please? > > Martin. > > > > >> I've not been keeping track of this thread so I don't know if you have >> any of the old data left? If so, the Address Book data is (was) in >> /Library/Application Support/AddressBook and is a file >> called AddressBook- and has a size dependant on the >> number >> of contacts. Mine is about 2.5MB for about 1500 contacts. Is this >> the >> one that is greyed-out? >> >> Martin Fry wrote: >> >>> Hi Ken >>> >>> I though migration assist would have done that, But I have just tried >>> your way and tried to import from my (G4 applications backup)/ >>> address >>> book , but it is greyed out and cannot import from it >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Martin Fry > martinfry.photo at virgin.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 15:44:28 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:44:28 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Shamless Norwich Computer Company Plug!! In-Reply-To: <34001.48345.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <34001.48345.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe Nice looking site. Simon On 10 Jul 2009, at 15:09, joe butler wrote: > > > Hi all > > It gives me great joy to announce that Norwich Computer Company is > back in business. > As we received great support from NMUG users in the past we will be > offering a permanent 15% off to all NMUGers > > Ours temp address is http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com/ > index.html > > Our permanent address will be http://www.apple-macs.eu and will be > up and running in the next 48 hours. > > Thanks for reading > > Joe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 10 15:45:38 2009 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:45:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Shamless Norwich Computer Company Plug!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <248825.46069.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Not bad for about an hours work!! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] Shamless Norwich Computer Company Plug!! To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 3:44 PM Joe Nice looking site. Simon On 10 Jul 2009, at 15:09, joe butler wrote: > > > Hi all > > It gives me great joy to announce that Norwich Computer Company is? > back in business. > As we received great support from NMUG users in the past we will be? > offering a permanent 15% off to all NMUGers > > Ours temp address is http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com/ > index.html > > Our permanent address will be http://www.apple-macs.eu and will be? > up and running in the next 48 hours. > > Thanks for reading > > Joe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on? 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD,? SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Fri Jul 10 15:58:48 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:58:48 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: I have no problems with either 1471 or 1571. I have a combined phone/ fax/answer machine. All works AOK. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 10 Jul 2009, at 12:54, Jules Slaughter wrote: > Dear Simon > > I transferred to BT at Xmas because a sales person rang and offered it > for ?10 per month so I decided to switch for the following reasons: > an 0800 number for problems, free calls after 6 and weekends. > > Being a computer idiot, I found the installation perfectly easy > despite my fears. > > The only problem I have is that my answer machine doesn't work through > the hub - it has interference when people leave a message. I also use > a cheap daytime call provider which, of course, won't work through the > hub. So I have to unplug the hub and plug in answermachine when I go > out or to use phone during day. I run a business from home so I want > the answer machine rather than 1471. > > I also found problems with 1471/1571. It doesn't work with the phone > plugged in the hub. I spoke to BT and they referred me to phone > problems who referred me back to broadband and so on until I lost my > temper and they put the phone down on me! Why not!?!! > > A person with your technical knowledge would probably know how to fix > all of that but I have just got used to living with it, but it was > confusing and annoying in the beginning. > > Regards > Jules > > > > > > On 7/10/09, Simon Royal wrote: >> Hi >> >> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. >> >> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking >> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >> >> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, >> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >> >> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > > -- > Jules > > CalmClasses & Therapies > to improve your health. > > My business works on referrals. > If you like what I do, please tell others. > If not, please tell me. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 16:01:00 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:01:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> Simon, Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a VOIP connection and has its own number with some packages. With some packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which plugs into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line for a real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy periods of time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that implied that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. The BT people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't have been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate that there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I remember, as opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of the weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it just sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", etc. series of messages on the screen. When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you will be into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really horrible at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling out OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We have checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You will want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare hands - but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it works, the speed is OK. I hope this helps. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. > > I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking > their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. > > I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, > plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. > > Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 16:04:45 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:04:45 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> Ken Does the BT Vision box work wirelessly through your network. I assumed it worked through your TV aerial and had nothing to do with the Home Hub. Simon On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Ken Hamer wrote: > Simon, > > Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more > Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a VOIP > connection and has its own number with some packages. With some > packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which > plugs > into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line > for a > real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). > > I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the weirdest > things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy periods of > time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that implied > that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. The BT > people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted > (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't have > been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate that > there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something > meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I remember, as > opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". > > However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of the > weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it > just > sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", > etc. > series of messages on the screen. > > When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you will be > into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really > horrible > at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling > out > OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We have > checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You will > want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare hands - > but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it > works, > the speed is OK. > > I hope this helps. > > Ken > > Simon Royal wrote: >> Hi >> >> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. >> >> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking >> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >> >> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, >> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >> >> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From jinshinjewels at googlemail.com Fri Jul 10 16:11:52 2009 From: jinshinjewels at googlemail.com (Jules Slaughter) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:11:52 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: I knew it was me!! Lucky you! Jules On 7/10/09, Michael Woodhouse wrote: > I have no problems with either 1471 or 1571. I have a combined phone/ > fax/answer machine. All works AOK. > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 12:54, Jules Slaughter wrote: > > > Dear Simon > > > > I transferred to BT at Xmas because a sales person rang and offered it > > for ?10 per month so I decided to switch for the following reasons: > > an 0800 number for problems, free calls after 6 and weekends. > > > > Being a computer idiot, I found the installation perfectly easy > > despite my fears. > > > > The only problem I have is that my answer machine doesn't work through > > the hub - it has interference when people leave a message. I also use > > a cheap daytime call provider which, of course, won't work through the > > hub. So I have to unplug the hub and plug in answermachine when I go > > out or to use phone during day. I run a business from home so I want > > the answer machine rather than 1471. > > > > I also found problems with 1471/1571. It doesn't work with the phone > > plugged in the hub. I spoke to BT and they referred me to phone > > problems who referred me back to broadband and so on until I lost my > > temper and they put the phone down on me! Why not!?!! > > > > A person with your technical knowledge would probably know how to fix > > all of that but I have just got used to living with it, but it was > > confusing and annoying in the beginning. > > > > Regards > > Jules > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/09, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. > >> > >> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking > >> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. > >> > >> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, > >> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. > >> > >> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. > >> > >> Simon Royal > >> --- > >> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NMUG mailing list > >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk > >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > >> > > > > > > -- > > Jules > > > > CalmClasses & Therapies > > to improve your health. > > > > My business works on referrals. > > If you like what I do, please tell others. > > If not, please tell me. > > _______________________________________________ > > NMUG mailing list > > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > -- Jules CalmClasses & Therapies to improve your health. My business works on referrals. If you like what I do, please tell others. If not, please tell me. From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Fri Jul 10 16:13:20 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:13:20 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Filters Message-ID: <19A6714E-7C2B-4D53-8F77-C7691140F282@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Guys Thanks for the advice re the filter. Just added a filter to the card processor line and the payment went through AOK. Thanks again. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 17:49:35 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:49:35 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A57711F.1050801@stackyard.org> It needs a television signal AND a broadband connection so it needs a connection to the Home Hub. The one I installed (for a customer) was not wireless - it needed a wired connection. Newer ones may be wireless but I don't know. The whole idea of it is to be able to stream video from the BT servers as well as watch normal television. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Ken > > Does the BT Vision box work wirelessly through your network. I assumed > it worked through your TV aerial and had nothing to do with the Home > Hub. > > Simon > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Ken Hamer wrote: > > >> Simon, >> >> Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more >> Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a VOIP >> connection and has its own number with some packages. With some >> packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which >> plugs >> into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line >> for a >> real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). >> >> I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the weirdest >> things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy periods of >> time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that implied >> that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. The BT >> people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted >> (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't have >> been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate that >> there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something >> meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I remember, as >> opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". >> >> However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of the >> weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it >> just >> sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", >> etc. >> series of messages on the screen. >> >> When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you will be >> into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really >> horrible >> at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling >> out >> OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We have >> checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You will >> want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare hands - >> but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it >> works, >> the speed is OK. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Ken >> >> Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. >>> >>> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking >>> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >>> >>> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, >>> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >>> >>> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 17:54:03 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:54:03 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> Here's just a page that Google threw up about BT Vision boxes. http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/btvisionbox.html There are probably thousands more where that came from. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Ken > > Does the BT Vision box work wirelessly through your network. I assumed > it worked through your TV aerial and had nothing to do with the Home > Hub. > > Simon > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Ken Hamer wrote: > > >> Simon, >> >> Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more >> Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a VOIP >> connection and has its own number with some packages. With some >> packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which >> plugs >> into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line >> for a >> real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). >> >> I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the weirdest >> things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy periods of >> time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that implied >> that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. The BT >> people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted >> (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't have >> been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate that >> there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something >> meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I remember, as >> opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". >> >> However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of the >> weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it >> just >> sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", >> etc. >> series of messages on the screen. >> >> When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you will be >> into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really >> horrible >> at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling >> out >> OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We have >> checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You will >> want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare hands - >> but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it >> works, >> the speed is OK. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Ken >> >> Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. >>> >>> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking >>> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >>> >>> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, >>> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >>> >>> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Fri Jul 10 18:50:20 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:50:20 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <22381F9F-E67B-47DE-933F-A222FB1814CB@btinternet.com> Yes I do - it can be maddening and wonderful:- had few problems over the 2-3 years but overall- brilliantly easy to record programmes and I would hate to use another Broadband supplier. BT have excellent help - staff are great, always polite and always fix the problem. It is a tad more expensive - but you get what you pay for. Heather loved the Mac chick too On 10 Jul 2009, at 11:42, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT Vision. > > I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and taking > their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. > > I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like Tiscali, > plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. > > Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 19:30:31 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:30:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Ken Very interesting and something BT do not tell you. Indeed the Hub needs to go next to the Vision box and is connected via ethernet for the program guide and video on demand features which are accessed via your broadband connection. Will certainly now change my mind as I don't have a electrical plug near my phone socket and currently have 30 foot of ADSL cabling running up my stairs to my router which is plugged in up there. Can't do this with a Home Hub if I need it next to a Vision box. Simon On 10 Jul 2009, at 17:54, Ken Hamer wrote: > Here's just a page that Google threw up about BT Vision boxes. > > http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/btvisionbox.html > > There are probably thousands more where that came from. > > Ken > > > Simon Royal wrote: >> Ken >> >> Does the BT Vision box work wirelessly through your network. I >> assumed >> it worked through your TV aerial and had nothing to do with the Home >> Hub. >> >> Simon >> >> On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Ken Hamer wrote: >> >> >>> Simon, >>> >>> Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more >>> Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a >>> VOIP >>> connection and has its own number with some packages. With some >>> packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which >>> plugs >>> into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line >>> for a >>> real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). >>> >>> I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the >>> weirdest >>> things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy >>> periods of >>> time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that implied >>> that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. >>> The BT >>> people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted >>> (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't >>> have >>> been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate >>> that >>> there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something >>> meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I remember, as >>> opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". >>> >>> However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of >>> the >>> weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it >>> just >>> sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", >>> etc. >>> series of messages on the screen. >>> >>> When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you will be >>> into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really >>> horrible >>> at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling >>> out >>> OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We >>> have >>> checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You >>> will >>> want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare >>> hands - >>> but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it >>> works, >>> the speed is OK. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> Simon Royal wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT >>>> Vision. >>>> >>>> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and >>>> taking >>>> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >>>> >>>> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like >>>> Tiscali, >>>> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >>>> >>>> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >>>> >>>> Simon Royal >>>> --- >>>> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> >> Simon Royal >> --- >> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Fri Jul 10 19:44:00 2009 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:44:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> Message-ID: What - I have 2 wireless/radio plugs the hub is about 20' from the vision box - no problems Heather On 10 Jul 2009, at 19:30, Simon Royal wrote: > Ken > > Very interesting and something BT do not tell you. > > Indeed the Hub needs to go next to the Vision box and is connected via > ethernet for the program guide and video on demand features which are > accessed via your broadband connection. > > Will certainly now change my mind as I don't have a electrical plug > near my phone socket and currently have 30 foot of ADSL cabling > running up my stairs to my router which is plugged in up there. Can't > do this with a Home Hub if I need it next to a Vision box. > > Simon > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 17:54, Ken Hamer wrote: > >> Here's just a page that Google threw up about BT Vision boxes. >> >> http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/btvisionbox.html >> >> There are probably thousands more where that came from. >> >> Ken >> >> >> Simon Royal wrote: >>> Ken >>> >>> Does the BT Vision box work wirelessly through your network. I >>> assumed >>> it worked through your TV aerial and had nothing to do with the Home >>> Hub. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Ken Hamer wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Simon, >>>> >>>> Home Hubs are fine - made by Thompson. The newer ones have more >>>> Ethernet ports (4). There is a plug for a telephone which uses a >>>> VOIP >>>> connection and has its own number with some packages. With some >>>> packages, a cordless phone and recharging cradle is provided which >>>> plugs >>>> into the Hub. I suspect a previous replier mistook the VOIP line >>>> for a >>>> real one (or perhaps he had filtering problems). >>>> >>>> I have only installed one BT Vision box which was one of the >>>> weirdest >>>> things I've ever seen. Loads and loads of updates, lengthy >>>> periods of >>>> time doing something unknown and an instruction booklet that >>>> implied >>>> that the box used wireless to talk to the hub when it doesn't. >>>> The BT >>>> people I spoke to apologized and said the book was being reprinted >>>> (Thanks for wasting over an hour of my time, Guys!). It wouldn't >>>> have >>>> been so bad if there had been anything on the screen to indicate >>>> that >>>> there was a missing Internet connection. All it said was something >>>> meaningless, rather like a Microsoft error message as I >>>> remember, as >>>> opposed to "Please plug me into a network, idiot". >>>> >>>> However, it worked in the end and they may have addressed some of >>>> the >>>> weirdness by now. It took about an hour to set up, mostly while it >>>> just >>>> sat there with a "Please wait..." , "Restarting", "Please wait...", >>>> etc. >>>> series of messages on the screen. >>>> >>>> When things go wrong with broadband, however, I'm afraid you >>>> will be >>>> into Tiscali-land again. BT Broadband, like Tiscali are really >>>> horrible >>>> at sorting things out and will go to great lengths to avoid calling >>>> out >>>> OpenReach to fix line problems. They are very quick with the "We >>>> have >>>> checked the line and it's working perfectly" sort of excuse. You >>>> will >>>> want to kill them all, violently and personally with your bare >>>> hands - >>>> but only if something goes wrong. As opposed to Tiscali, when it >>>> works, >>>> the speed is OK. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> Simon Royal wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any experience of using a BT Home Hub and BT >>>>> Vision. >>>>> >>>>> I am thinking of switching to BT for my broadband provider and >>>>> taking >>>>> their Home Hub with phone, plus signing up to BT Vision. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to get stuck with another rubbish provider like >>>>> Tiscali, >>>>> plus one provider for phone, broadband and TV is just easier. >>>>> >>>>> Any help, experiences etc... would be grateful. >>>>> >>>>> Simon Royal >>>>> --- >>>>> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>>>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>>>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NMUG mailing list >>>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NMUG mailing list >>>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> --- >>> Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >>> 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >>> SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NMUG mailing list >>> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Jul 10 20:43:40 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:43:40 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> Message-ID: Heather Am I missing something, but what is a wireless/radio plug? Simon On 10 Jul 2009, at 19:44, Heather Tamplin wrote: > What - I have 2 wireless/radio plugs the hub is about 20' from the > vision box - no problems Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Fri Jul 10 23:07:04 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:07:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] New monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CF643CC-43DD-4A1D-B01C-B8B96F32201C@ntlworld.com> Thanks Paul and Malcolm for your replies and encouragement. This post is just to let it be known that Iiyama have now replaced the monitor. I hooked it up as before and it is working a treat! Jim. ============================================= On 7 Jul 2009, at 10:01, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Send NMUG mailing list submissions to > nmug at durrant.co.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmug-owner at durrant.co.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NMUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 (djr.massy at ntlworld.com) > 2. Re: NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 (Paul Durrant) > 3. Fwd: Re: New monitor problem (djr.massy at ntlworld.com) > 4. Re: Latest Router Oddness (Ken Hamer) > 5. Re: Migration Assistant (Anthony Brahams) > 6. Re: Migration Assistant (Paul Durrant) > 7. RAM Wanted (Simon Royal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:24:30 +0100 > From: > Subject: Re: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Cc: nmug-request at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > <20090706222430.5VJ4O.284119.root at web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks Paul, > > The DVI cable was supplied with the monitor, so it should have been > OK. I'm also encouraged by your comment on the graphics card. > Just one point is that the "Mac & PC Edition" of ATI Radeon 9600 > Pro, may not be the same as the one I have. I say this because I > don't remember seeing the words "Mac & PC Edition" in the context > of my model of G5 anywhere. At any rate, I shall give it a good > try again, when the replacement monitor arrives. Meanwhile, is it > possible that you could somehow manage to confirm the relevant > specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro which must have been made > before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? > > > Jim. > ========================= >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0100 >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: <6CFCD6FE-2439-4762-8D9C-9E0C4A63BB7A at durrant.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> The DVI spec itself handles 1920x1200 at 60Hz on a single link DVI. >> The Radeo 9600 Pro Graphics card supports this, and also does dual- >> link DVI. See >> >> http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600propcmac/specs.html >> >> So you shouldn't need a new video card. >> >> The Iiyama E2607WS also accepts 1920x1200 on DVI, so it ought to >> work. >> >> Unless, of course, you're trying to connect up with a VGA cable using >> the DVI-VGA adapter. Do make sure you're using a DVI-DVI cable for >> the >> connection. >> >> Here's a random web site that has a picture of the connector ends: >> http://store.snapstream.com/dvi-dvi.html >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:49, >> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear NMUG members, >>> >>> I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was >>> compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to >>> get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer agreed >>> to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of these >>> problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. Just a >>> bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. >>> First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. >>> >>> Computer: >>> >>> Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of >>> disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. >>> >>> Monitor: >>> >>> Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution 1920 x >>> 1200 pixels. >>> >>> I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection >>> and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow >>> another monitor from a friend if need be. >>> >>> I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible >>> with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/ >>> content/item.php?item=4455 >>> ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope with >>> resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need a new >>> card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is >>> just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set- >>> up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone advise me >>> which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 >>> at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to >>> install and would I have to uninstall any existing software >>> belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the laptop? >>> >>> I'd be most grateful for some help. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:29 +0100 >> From: Anthony Brahams >> Subject: [NMUG] Migration Assistant >> To: Group list NMUG >> Message-ID: <6E1C57D9-6E50-4813-98A1-44C2870A8480 at themagic.me.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 >> Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and >> some >> of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the Mail >> Mailboxes. >> >> I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I want >> but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items >> previously >> transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is there >> a "Help" section for this. >> >> Thanks for any help/ >> >> Anthony >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:11:58 +0100 >> From: Paul Durrant >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] Migration Assistant >> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> If you did the transfer on first startup of the MacBook I would have >> expected no problems with the Mail (or anything else). I have read >> that there can be some problems if you first set up the new machine >> with a user account of the same name as the old machine and then try >> to run Migration Assistant. >> >> In either case, I'd suggest >> >> (1) create an admin user account on the new MacBook >> (2) delete the other user account on the new MacBook. >> (3) log in as the new Admin account and run Migration Assistant >> again. >> >> I think non-user folder stuff like applications won't get copied >> again >> if they've already been copied. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 6 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: >> >>> I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 >>> Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and >>> some >>> of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the >>> Mail >>> Mailboxes. >>> >>> I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I >>> want >>> but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items >>> previously >>> transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is >>> there >>> a "Help" section for this. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >> End of NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 >> ************************************ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:34:22 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14 > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <06CEDA4C-D0DB-4D14-AB16-4A98E2EE426C at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Even the much older Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition that worked with > PowerMac G4s and Mac OS 9.2.1 or Mac OS X 10.1.3 could display > 1920x1200 at 60Hz through its DVI interface. > > http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9000me/radeon9000prome/specs.html > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 22:24, > > wrote: > >> Meanwhile, is it possible that you could somehow manage to confirm >> the relevant specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro which must >> have been made before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:46:01 +0100 > From: > Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Re: New monitor problem > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > <20090706224601.3SV7U.284748.root at web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:41:26 +0100 >> From: >> To: djr.massy at ntlworld.com >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem >> >> I'm sorry I forgot to alter the title of my last email. I also >> included a lot of irrelevant stuff (well, irrelevant to this topic). >> >> I'll try to make sure it won't happen again! >> >> This is how it should have been: >> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> >>> The DVI cable was supplied with the monitor, so it should have >>> been OK. I'm also encouraged by your comment on the graphics >>> card. Just one point is that the "Mac & PC Edition" of ATI >>> Radeon 9600 Pro, may not be the same as the one I have. I say >>> this because I don't remember seeing the words "Mac & PC Edition" >>> in the context of my model of G5 anywhere. At any rate, I shall >>> give it a good try again, when the replacement monitor arrives. >>> Meanwhile, is it possible that you could somehow manage to >>> confirm the relevant specification of the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro >>> which must have been made before May 2005, the date I bought the G5? >>> >>> >>> Jim. >>> ========================= >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:10 +0100 >>>> From: Paul Durrant >>>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem >>>> To: Norwich Mac User Group list >>>> Message-ID: <6CFCD6FE-2439-4762-8D9C-9E0C4A63BB7A at durrant.co.uk> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; >>>> delsp=yes >>>> >>>> The DVI spec itself handles 1920x1200 at 60Hz on a single link DVI. >>>> The Radeo 9600 Pro Graphics card supports this, and also does dual- >>>> link DVI. See >>>> >>>> http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600propcmac/ >>>> specs.html >>>> >>>> So you shouldn't need a new video card. >>>> >>>> The Iiyama E2607WS also accepts 1920x1200 on DVI, so it ought to >>>> work. >>>> >>>> Unless, of course, you're trying to connect up with a VGA cable >>>> using >>>> the DVI-VGA adapter. Do make sure you're using a DVI-DVI cable >>>> for the >>>> connection. >>>> >>>> Here's a random web site that has a picture of the connector ends: >>>> http://store.snapstream.com/dvi-dvi.html >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On 6 Jul 2009, at 15:49, >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear NMUG members, >>>>> >>>>> I had thought that a new monitor which claimed that it was >>>>> compatible with Apple-Macintosh computers would be easy enough to >>>>> get going. In fact it was not. Eventually the manufacturer >>>>> agreed >>>>> to replace it, but has no stock at present. In the course of >>>>> these >>>>> problems I learnt a bit about connectors and graphics cards. >>>>> Just a >>>>> bit, starting from zero knowledge. I have a few questions now. >>>>> First of all, details of my computer and the new monitor. >>>>> >>>>> Computer: >>>>> >>>>> Mac G5 PowerPC tower with dual 2GHz processors, 3GB RAM, plenty of >>>>> disk space. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro graphics card. >>>>> >>>>> Monitor: >>>>> >>>>> Iiyama ProLite 26" LCD, Model E2607WS, with native resolution >>>>> 1920 x >>>>> 1200 pixels. >>>>> >>>>> I can access my G5 from a G4 iBook by using a firewire connection >>>>> and starting up the G5 with the T key pressed. I can also borrow >>>>> another monitor from a friend if need be. >>>>> >>>>> I have begun to think that the graphics card may not be compatible >>>>> with the new monitor. One web article (http://www.hexus.net/ >>>>> content/item.php?item=4455 >>>>> ) states that a dual-link DVI connection is necessary to cope >>>>> with >>>>> resolutions above 1920 x 1020. If that is the case, do I need >>>>> a new >>>>> card, or is it a question of updating the existing card? If it is >>>>> just a matter of updating, how do I do this with the current set- >>>>> up? However, if I need a new graphics card, would anyone >>>>> advise me >>>>> which to buy and where? I don't do any gaming, just Photoshop CS2 >>>>> at present. And if I did get a new graphics card, is it easy to >>>>> install and would I have to uninstall any existing software >>>>> belonging to the old card, and if so could I do this via the >>>>> laptop? >>>>> >>>>> I'd be most grateful for some help. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:52:32 +0100 > From: Ken Hamer > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Latest Router Oddness > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <4A527220.5010009 at stackyard.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Simon, > > I suspect that you aren't going to get a huge amount of joy out of the > Tiscali people but you can keep bothering them. They have an > impressive > reputation for uselessness so you need to decide when to either a) try > another router or b) try another ISP. It sounds like both are faulty. > I think the frequency issue is a red herring. 802.11 is > spread spectrum and designed to be able to work on overlapping, or > indeed the same frequencies. Wireless frequencies are not the same as > standard radio frequencies and are channels more in a statistical > sense. I think your router is toast.. except after the occasional > reset. Have you tried a return to factory defaults, by the way, or a > firmware upgrade. They probably wouldn't work anyway. > > Regarding replacement routers, I have always liked Netgear due to > their > GUI being the most logical and least irritating and MOST models > behaving > themselves. I take your point about the latest versions. My > favourite > product of theirs has been the DG834G of which I have installed > countless numbers. However, the latest version of it (v5) is a real > pain in the neck. They have put buttons, bells, whistles and weird > stuff all over it and the last time I tried to get one to work, I > had a > hell of a time. Version 4 units are still available from Broadband > Buyer so I got a few of those recently in case they are discontinued. > They remain my favourite. > > Stay away from cheap, unbranded routers. You will not enjoy them. I > have always hated D-Link routers due to their almost completely > incomprehensible, stupid and illogical GUI, not to mention frequent > failures of the type you are seeing with your Siemens. Linksys (now > Cisco) aren't too bad and surprisingly, Thompson are pretty good and > usually very cheap. I have begun installing their Ethernet modems > (just > a single-port wired router) to replace USB modems (UGHHH!) rather than > the Linksys ones I used to use. Cheaper and work fine. Companies I > have NOT had good experiences with are Belkin, Buffalo, Zoom and Zyxel > but not often enough to make a general statement. PC World flog > Belkin > routers like mad which is a very bad sign. I have yet to be able to > find the line statistics page on a Belkin router although it must be > there somewhere. > > The Mac support issue with ISPs is a bit stupid, especially when > one has > a router supplied by the ISP. It doesn't really matter what OS you're > running with an Ethernet router and if the ISP's support folk can't > tell > you how to get to the router's web page and what to do once you're > there, then they're pretty feeble. > > Good luck with the Tiscali people. Stand your ground and if they > don't > want to help, ask for a migration code. > > Ken > > Simon Royal wrote: >> David >> >> I have spoken to Tiscali again today - and I got someone who is a bit >> more knowledgeable than the moron I got on Friday. The moron on >> Friday >> told me my connection issues were because I was more than 6 foot away >> from the router. >> >> He suggested turning off auto-channel selection and putting it to >> fixed channel. I am promised a call back tomorrow to see if this >> solved the problem. We will see. >> >> Simon >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:25:34 +0100 > From: Anthony Brahams > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Migration Assistant > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <66165D7C-6C19-466A-BF13-E3C1A6E21D25 at themagic.me.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Thanks, Paul. I did set up the new machine first so will start again > as you suggest. What is an admin user account? It was the data that > had been transferred I was concerned about duplicating but with a > replacement user this should not occur and I hope everything will > transfer. > > This pm task as off to hospital now. > > regards > > Anthony > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 21:11, Paul Durrant wrote: > >> If you did the transfer on first startup of the MacBook I would have >> expected no problems with the Mail (or anything else). I have read >> that there can be some problems if you first set up the new machine >> with a user account of the same name as the old machine and then try >> to run Migration Assistant. >> >> In either case, I'd suggest >> >> (1) create an admin user account on the new MacBook >> (2) delete the other user account on the new MacBook. >> (3) log in as the new Admin account and run Migration Assistant >> again. >> >> I think non-user folder stuff like applications won't get copied >> again >> if they've already been copied. >> >> regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 6 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: >> >>> I am trying to use the above to transfer (FireWire) from an old G3 >>> Powerbook (OS10.3.9) to a new MacBook (10.5.6). All the apps. and >>> some >>> of the files and data have gone over, others did not such as the >>> Mail >>> Mailboxes. >>> >>> I had thought I could see a list of files etc. and select what I >>> want >>> but cannot find it. If I did the transfer again would items >>> previously >>> transferred get duplicated or are duplicates recognised? Nor is >>> there >>> a "Help" section for this. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:44:35 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] Migration Assistant > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: <55369127-377D-4027-B4B9-C5AEF249D6D1 at durrant.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > And admin user is just an account with administration privileges that > isn't your usual account. It's useful as a test account to see if > problems are just with your normal login account, or are machine-wide. > It's also useful when you need to delete your user account and > recreate it. > > Paul > > On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:25, Anthony Brahams wrote: > >> Thanks, Paul. I did set up the new machine first so will start again >> as you suggest. What is an admin user account? It was the data that >> had been transferred I was concerned about duplicating but with a >> replacement user this should not occur and I hope everything will >> transfer. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:45:51 +0100 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi > > I know this is a little off topic, but I am in need of some PC RAM. > > I have just built three machines, one each for my boys and one for my > neice and all of them could do with some extra RAM. They all only have > two slots on the motherboard so I need as high sticks as I can put in > them. Also my wifes laptop urgently needs some extra RAM. > > Does anyone have any 512MB sticks of PC133 168pin desktop RAM? > Does anyone have any 512MB or 1GB sticks of DDR 2700 laptop RAM? > > I am bidding frantically on eBay, but not getting anywhere fast. > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 > ************************************ From amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 10 23:33:18 2009 From: amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk (Arthur Lucas) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:33:18 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon, Yes, you are missing something . Look at the web site recommended by Ken: http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/btvisionbox.html and follow the powerline adapters link (or go direct to http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/btvisionfaq.html#powerline:) "Your BT Vision box needs an Ethernet connection to your Home Hub broadband router. If you're having an engineer install BT Vision for you, he will run a phone extension socket near to the TV so that the Hub can be sited near the TV and connected to your phone line for Broadband access. If this isn't practical, or you've opted for the self-installation option, then BT will supply you with two Powerline mains adapters. These use your existing in-house electrical wiring to send and receive data - and Powerlines work perfectly well with BT Vision. Plug an Ethernet lead from the BT Home Hub to one of the Powerline units and plug it into the mains. Then, near the telly, plug another Ethernet lead from the v-box to the other Powerline adapter, and plug it into a mains socket." The second paragraph is the one that counts in your case. All you need is a power point near your hub, and another near your TV/BTVision box (and you must have these to run the devices!). The signal is carried by the house wiring. Whole system is easy to set up, but first use of vison box requires time for the vision box to set itself, and scan for channels. Very occasionally needs a reset if it loses 'red button' capacity. I've had a BT Hub since they first came out, (and the earlier version of BT wireless connection (Voyager) since Sept 2003), and have had no trouble, except for an outage of about half an hour once. Never needed to contact BT about the system, so don't know what support is like. Arthur > >Heather > >Am I missing something, but what is a wireless/radio plug? > >Simon > >On 10 Jul 2009, at 19:44, Heather Tamplin wrote: > >> What - I have 2 wireless/radio plugs the hub is about 20' from the >> vision box - no problems > >Simon Royal >--- >Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on >'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, >SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > >************************************ -- Prof A M Lucas AO CBE 16 Downham Crescent Wymondham NR18 0SF 01953 602214 From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Fri Jul 10 23:53:15 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:53:15 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] BT Home Hub & BT Vision In-Reply-To: References: <1E36308C-003C-419D-96D2-3164AD353960@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A5757AC.3030609@stackyard.org> <1B996335-4EB4-43EA-9105-A2104083FB1D@simonroyal.co.uk> <4A57722B.4070903@stackyard.org> Message-ID: <4A57C65B.9040501@stackyard.org> Simon, Yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention that the BT Vision box comes with 2 HomePlug devices to connect the Home Hub to the Vision box if the use of an Ethernet cable is not practical. HomePlug devices use a radio signal through the mains wiring. They can be very useful when wireless or Ethernet doesn't do the business. As I said earlier, the advantage of the Vision box is the ability to download films from BT. If what you actually want to do is record stuff off-air, you might want to consider buying a freeview PVR instead. We have had a Humax 9200 for a couple years now which has been excellent. Humax and others now do set-top PVRs that receive/record free-to-air HD satellite broadcasts which is probably going to be the only way HD can be received for some time (or always). Terrestrial doesn't have the bandwidth. Something to consider, anyway. Meanwhile, I would love to be in Heather's alternative universe where the BT support people provide excellent, polite service. Only joking Heather. I'm sure there are thousands of people using BT successfully. I only meet the ones who aren't. Ken Simon Royal wrote: > Heather > > Am I missing something, but what is a wireless/radio plug? > > Simon > > On 10 Jul 2009, at 19:44, Heather Tamplin wrote: > > >> What - I have 2 wireless/radio plugs the hub is about 20' from the >> vision box - no problems >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From ken.hamer at stackyard.org Sat Jul 11 00:29:08 2009 From: ken.hamer at stackyard.org (Ken Hamer) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:29:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ADSL filtering/linetests In-Reply-To: <8048522E-5D1A-46F3-9347-D5343981FF11@gmail.com> References: <8048522E-5D1A-46F3-9347-D5343981FF11@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A57CEC4.4000002@stackyard.org> Sigh! Yet another person who hates me. Hopefully, the faceplate will give you a full 20Mbps, even if the exchange can only do 8. They're magic that way. I'm a bit confused about your line speed. What is your router reporting the connection speed to be? Who is your ISP? Try the speed test at http://www.thinkbroadband.com and compare the router connection speed to the actual data speed. Your ISP may be under-performing. I'm sure you know that the connection speed is the speed that your router and the DSLAM at the telephone exchange have agreed upon at synchronisation. The data speed is affected by all sorts of stuff but mostly your ISP's network and contention on the BT backhaul from the exchange which again depends on how your ISP is paying BT for bandwidth. Regarding a line test site, there isn't one that actually tests the line, at least not one available to the public, at least not one I've heard of. The best they can do is an estimate according to exchange capabilities and approximate location. It's wildly inaccurate. You can try http://www.thinkbroadband.com/btavailability.html but it will give you a rubbish, cowardly result. It just told me that I can get 500Kbps but I'm actually getting 1.5Mbps. I'm not even getting the Gordon Brown minimum! I want compensation! Ken stefan youngs wrote: > Ken wrote > > >> Subject: Re: [NMUG] ADSL filtering >> >> >> The bad news (which I forgot to mention) is that they don't always >> work. If someone has only one telephone socket in their house, i.e. >> the >> master socket, a filter faceplate won't have anything to filter so >> won't >> have any effect. >> > > > Now he tells me! So that's 10 nicker down the tube is it? > > I've bought the thing now and will therefore try it out. If as you > say, it don't do no good, guv'nor then do not expect me to laugh at > any of your future jokes! > > My (limited) understanding is that the filter circuits it uses are > superior to the cheapo flying lead type filters and this would > generate some improvement in signal/noise ratio and hence maximum > throughput. We shall see Mr Harmer. I am on the Thorpe Exchange and > get about 4.5MB max on the BT linespeed test, but I've never got a > download to go above 800Kb even when I've been connected to tens of > seeds and peers. > > I once found a site that ran a linetest that told the maximum I could > get from my connection, along with the distance from the exchange. I > cannot now find that site. Can anyone help? > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Jul 11 07:21:01 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:21:01 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] New monitor problem In-Reply-To: <5CF643CC-43DD-4A1D-B01C-B8B96F32201C@ntlworld.com> References: <5CF643CC-43DD-4A1D-B01C-B8B96F32201C@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Well done on changing the subject line, now to work on remembering to snipping the parts of the digest you're not replying to! :-) Paul On 10 Jul 2009, at 23:07, DJR Massy wrote: [massive snippage] >> >>> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:41:26 +0100 >>> From: >>> To: djr.massy at ntlworld.com >>> Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem >>> >>> I'm sorry I forgot to alter the title of my last email. I also >>> included a lot of irrelevant stuff (well, irrelevant to this topic). >>> >>> I'll try to make sure it won't happen again! >>> [more massive snippage] From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 10:18:06 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:18:06 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Hinge Ceased Up Message-ID: <0D01EED7-1DEF-4A7D-9EE9-2426F8F317B4@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I have a problem with my PowerBook G4 Titanium 867Mhz this morning. I had been using it fine earlier this morning, but then I went to open the screen and crack, one of the hinges broke. I took the hinge covers off the back of the hinges and removed the screen bezel and it seems the part of the hinge that is attached to the screen has snapped clean off. On close inspection it seems the left hand hinge has ceased up completely, hence opening the screen snapped it clean off the screen. Here are some pics to illustrate what I mean. http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/powerbookhinge/01.JPG http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/powerbookhinge/02.JPG Any ideas why? Why would it suddenly cease up? Do you think it is possible to uncease it? I have some very strong instant adhesive. If I could uncease it I could glue it back to the screen and hopefully it will hold, at least temporarily. Secondly then, does anyone have a spare screen surround? The actually screen is fine, but the lid (where the Apple logo is) is a bit dented and scratched, not that this bothers me, but as it seems I am going to have to replace the screen surround/lid anyway I might try get a good looking one. And of course, the bezel that goes around the front of the screen has now been removed twice (I replaced the LCD when I first got the machine) and is looking a bit worse for wear. If anyone has a complete new lid, screen and bezel all in tact, let me know. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this for now, let me know. Regards Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From macman at f2s.com Sat Jul 11 10:26:26 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:26:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Hinge Ceased Up In-Reply-To: <0D01EED7-1DEF-4A7D-9EE9-2426F8F317B4@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <0D01EED7-1DEF-4A7D-9EE9-2426F8F317B4@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <87C01881-EE76-48D2-9E96-2B790D92FC91@f2s.com> You could try these people ... http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com/index.html Robbie Murray On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:18, Simon Royal wrote: If anyone has a complete new lid, screen and bezel all in tact, let me know. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this for now, let me know. Regards Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 10:27:38 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:27:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Help! Hinge Ceased Up In-Reply-To: <87C01881-EE76-48D2-9E96-2B790D92FC91@f2s.com> References: <0D01EED7-1DEF-4A7D-9EE9-2426F8F317B4@simonroyal.co.uk> <87C01881-EE76-48D2-9E96-2B790D92FC91@f2s.com> Message-ID: Robbie Ha ha ha. Oh! you weren't joking. Simon On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:26, Robbie Murray wrote: > You could try these people ... > > http://norwich-apple-repairs.weebly.com/index.html > > > Robbie Murray > > On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:18, Simon Royal wrote: > > If anyone has a complete new lid, screen and bezel all in tact, let me > know. > > If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this for now, let me know. > > Regards > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From david.maskell at ntlworld.com Sat Jul 11 10:54:11 2009 From: david.maskell at ntlworld.com (David Maskell) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:54:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NEW MBP! Message-ID: <28CE4697-71F7-4482-B12B-DE910887E67C@ntlworld.com> Hi everyone! I havent posted for a while, but I always ready your posts.... Just thought I would let everyone know I just purchased the new Macbook Pro this morning, and I think it is a brilliant bit of kit! superquick too!!! Nice weight, keys feel nice, and light up too... mmmm I love my new MBP...... David Maskell From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Jul 11 10:56:11 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:56:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NEW MBP! In-Reply-To: <28CE4697-71F7-4482-B12B-DE910887E67C@ntlworld.com> References: <28CE4697-71F7-4482-B12B-DE910887E67C@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <053B0016-3AB4-4F4E-8EE7-39FAF811594B@durrant.co.uk> So you'll be bringing it to the next meeting to show it off? What screen size? Perhaps next year I'll get one of the 13" or 15" MBPs. They are very nice. Paul On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:54, David Maskell wrote: > Hi everyone! > I havent posted for a while, but I always ready your posts.... > > Just thought I would let everyone know I just purchased the new > Macbook Pro this morning, and I think it is a brilliant bit of kit! > superquick too!!! > Nice weight, keys feel nice, and light up too... > > mmmm I love my new MBP...... From djr.massy at ntlworld.com Sat Jul 11 12:46:54 2009 From: djr.massy at ntlworld.com (DJR Massy) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:46:54 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] {NMUG} New monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul, Thank you for the gentle reminder! I hope this response is better. Jim. ============================================== On 11 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:21:01 +0100 > From: Paul Durrant > Subject: Re: [NMUG] New monitor problem > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Well done on changing the subject line, now to work on remembering to > snipping the parts of the digest you're not replying to! :-) > > Paul From david.maskell at ntlworld.com Sat Jul 11 13:53:26 2009 From: david.maskell at ntlworld.com (David Maskell) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:53:26 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] New MBP Message-ID: <8DC66096-B817-47B3-A6AD-3D3F0F932523@ntlworld.com> Hiya D'oh, I meant read all your posts not ready!! duh... should really check what I am writing sometimes. It's the 13.3"... The screen quality is excellent, I wasn't sure about the gloss screen at first as people have complained about reflections etc, but so far, I am OK with it...... the backlit LED screen gives a good all over brightness, and saves battery power too!, the keyboard it underlit, and the brightness of this can be controlled as well, which is a nice touch. If I can attend the meeting this month I shall bring it along... David Maskell From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sat Jul 11 16:15:15 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:15:15 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick Message-ID: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> In further attempts to protect myself from privacy invasions, I've installed these 2 pieces of software as a result of reading this http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/09/15/how-to-monitor-your-internet-bandwidth-usage-in-os-x/ Having cleared out my cookies I expected there to be nothing left on my system to report back on what I am doing, but this turns out not to be the case. It's quite surprising and not a little unsettling (to say the least) to see all those sites operating in stealth mode on my system... I thought my firewalls on my router and on my Mac were protecting me, but it seems not. I've discovered outbound traffic to entities of which I have no knowledge, for example a body called http://www.cscprotectsbrands.com/ which appears to be a service used to protect brands and trademarks. To the best of my knowledge I've never visited their website, so what are they doing collecting data from me? I thought I'd build a list of IP addresses I don't want to access my system and looked through the docs in vain to find out how to do this. I found this in a Mac forum, dated 2009, but couldn't find the path he mentions Hi. You can block specific IP addresses with ServerAdmin, go to Firewall-->Settings-->Advanced, and click the "+" button. In the pop up select: Action=Deny protocol= IP(write it manually) source=IP address(like this xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) destination=any(or the name or your network group) interface=In When the rule is listed, just check it. Done, you have blocked that IP. Hope this helps. Our old friend LittleSnitch can block specific IP addresses (yes?). Is this the route to follow? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 16:19:31 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> Stefan Your obviously have something to hide. However ever hard you try to fight it they will find you. All this paranoia about privacy, brings me to wonder what it is you don't want them to find. Simon On 11 Jul 2009, at 16:15, stefan youngs wrote: > In further attempts to protect myself from privacy invasions, I've > installed these 2 pieces of software as a result of reading this > > http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/09/15/how-to-monitor-your-internet-bandwidth-usage-in-os-x/ > > Having cleared out my cookies I expected there to be nothing left on > my system to report back on what I am doing, but this turns out not to > be the case. It's quite surprising and not a little unsettling (to say > the least) to see all those sites operating in stealth mode on my > system... I thought my firewalls on my router and on my Mac were > protecting me, but it seems not. > > I've discovered outbound traffic to entities of which I have no > knowledge, for example a body called > > http://www.cscprotectsbrands.com/ > > which appears to be a service used to protect brands and trademarks. > To the best of my knowledge I've never visited their website, so what > are they doing collecting data from me? > > I thought I'd build a list of IP addresses I don't want to access my > system and looked through the docs in vain to find out how to do this. > > I found this in a Mac forum, dated 2009, but couldn't find the path he > mentions > > Hi. > > You can block specific IP addresses with ServerAdmin, go to > Firewall-->Settings-->Advanced, and click the "+" button. > > In the pop up select: > Action=Deny > protocol= IP(write it manually) > source=IP address(like this xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) > destination=any(or the name or your network group) > interface=In > > When the rule is listed, just check it. > > Done, you have blocked that IP. > > Hope this helps. > > > Our old friend LittleSnitch can block specific IP addresses (yes?). Is > this the route to follow? > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From allanmacam at me.com Sat Jul 11 16:31:31 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:31:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: On 11 Jul 2009, at 16:19, Simon Royal wrote: > All this paranoia about privacy, brings me to wonder what it is you > don't want them to find. This sounds like a comment made by, I think, a member of the police commission when asked about Britain being the most densely populated CCTV country in Europe and the questions this raised with respect to personal privacy. Allan Johns. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 17:09:51 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:09:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> Allan No, simply, we all do things online which are slightly dubious at times. If we were worried about snooping we wouldn't go online at all. The whole web is built around making your browsing experience better, by tailoring it to your needs. Google personalises search results by previous history. Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing habits. As long as it is not illegal then it shouldn't matter what you are doing and who sees it, tracks it, records it, sells it. Simon On 11 Jul 2009, at 16:31, Allan wrote: > > On 11 Jul 2009, at 16:19, Simon Royal wrote: > >> All this paranoia about privacy, brings me to wonder what it is you >> don't want them to find. > > > This sounds like a comment made by, I think, a member of the police > commission when asked about Britain being the most densely populated > CCTV country in Europe and the questions this raised with respect to > personal privacy. > > Allan Johns. > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From allanmacam at me.com Sat Jul 11 17:40:37 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:40:37 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> Sounds very useful - to some. As long as people are made aware of it happening and given the choice of opting in then there is choice. When there is no choice, an individual has to take what measures he/ she deems necessary. When 'Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing' without our knowledge we end up with something like the Phorm controversy which, as we know, caused considerable criticism from privacy groups and prompted an EU investigation. Allan. > habits. On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:09, Simon Royal wrote: > The whole web is built around making your browsing experience better, > by tailoring it to your needs. Google personalises search results by > previous history. Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing > habits. > > As long as it is not illegal then it shouldn't matter what you are > doing and who sees it, tracks it, records it, sells it. From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Sat Jul 11 17:48:09 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:48:09 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Off topic a bit Message-ID: <9A36AE2F-F9A2-4878-84B7-DFC21AEE7706@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Guys A bit off topic. But I will ask. What are the thoughts about this mobile 'phone directory that goes live next week? I tried to make mine ex-directory but the site is down. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ From macman at f2s.com Sat Jul 11 18:00:41 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:00:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> Message-ID: <740D6872-A33C-4E6E-BCE1-5EFD253DBE79@f2s.com> And has now been abandoned by both BT and Virgin .... Privacy 1, Snoopers Nil Robbie On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:40, Allan wrote: When 'Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing' without our knowledge we end up with something like the Phorm controversy which, as we know, caused considerable criticism from privacy groups and prompted an EU investigation. Allan. > habits. On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:09, Simon Royal wrote: > The whole web is built around making your browsing experience better, > by tailoring it to your needs. Google personalises search results by > previous history. Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing > habits. > > As long as it is not illegal then it shouldn't matter what you are > doing and who sees it, tracks it, records it, sells it. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From nathan.crosby at virgin.net Sat Jul 11 18:01:08 2009 From: nathan.crosby at virgin.net (nathan crosby) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:01:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> Message-ID: <84F4ACD0-C1C2-467C-9296-D7ABB3AD2B4A@virgin.net> I am surprised that people think that privacy still exists. Just look at the current case of the News of the World and countless phone tappings even apparently involving royalty. Face it' 'they' 'know who we are where we live and what we do. Sad but a fact of life in the 21st century, Nathan On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:40, Allan wrote: > Sounds very useful - to some. > > As long as people are made aware of it happening and given the choice > of opting in then there is choice. > > When there is no choice, an individual has to take what measures he/ > she deems necessary. When 'Ads are personalised to due to certain > browsing' without our knowledge we end up with something like the > Phorm controversy which, as we know, caused considerable criticism > from privacy groups and prompted an EU investigation. > > Allan. > > >> habits. > On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:09, Simon Royal wrote: > >> The whole web is built around making your browsing experience better, >> by tailoring it to your needs. Google personalises search results by >> previous history. Ads are personalised to due to certain browsing >> habits. >> >> As long as it is not illegal then it shouldn't matter what you are >> doing and who sees it, tracks it, records it, sells it. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From macman at f2s.com Sat Jul 11 18:05:27 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:05:27 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Off topic a bit In-Reply-To: <9A36AE2F-F9A2-4878-84B7-DFC21AEE7706@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> References: <9A36AE2F-F9A2-4878-84B7-DFC21AEE7706@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> Message-ID: <94E35145-10BA-47F0-A7AB-DF302900BA86@f2s.com> it's all down - crashed and taken off line, possibly due to number of outraged mobile subscribers looking to be removed..... Press release from the company: "118 800 ? the UK?s first and only service with the ability to connect individuals to millions of mobile numbers ? has chosen to temporarily suspend services to deal with technical issues. The mobile enquiry service via both the website, 118800.co.uk, and the call centre, 118 800, has been taken down so technical work can be carried out to improve the service. The high number of queries 118 800 has received since launching have highlighted some technical glitches in the system. To ensure 118 800 provides faultless customer service the decision has been made to temporarily suspend the service allowing for technical work to be completed. All requests to be made ?ex directory? that have been sent to the service, via the website or text message, are being dealt with and these numbers will made ex- directory. There will be no need to resend these requests to 118 800. 118 800 will begin taking further ex-directory requests as soon as the service is resumed. 118 800 apologies for any inconvenience this has caused callers and will release a further statement once the service is up and running at full capacity. The landline directory service at 118 800 is still operational." Robbie On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:48, Michael Woodhouse wrote: Guys A bit off topic. But I will ask. What are the thoughts about this mobile 'phone directory that goes live next week? I tried to make mine ex-directory but the site is down. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 18:19:35 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:19:35 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Off topic a bit In-Reply-To: <94E35145-10BA-47F0-A7AB-DF302900BA86@f2s.com> References: <9A36AE2F-F9A2-4878-84B7-DFC21AEE7706@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> <94E35145-10BA-47F0-A7AB-DF302900BA86@f2s.com> Message-ID: Hi It is not as straight forward as people make out. It is not a directory like we are all used to. You ring up, ask for a number, they ring you up and ask if you will accept the call and then they are put through. They do not give out your number. Of course you actually have to register your mobile phone, which if it is a contract phone will already be done, but a high number of pay-as- you-go phones never get registered. Simon On 11 Jul 2009, at 18:05, Robbie Murray wrote: > it's all down - crashed and taken off line, possibly due to number of > outraged mobile subscribers looking to be removed..... > > Press release from the company: > > "118 800 ? the UK?s first and only service with the ability to > connect individuals to millions of mobile numbers ? has chosen to > temporarily suspend services to deal with technical issues. > > The mobile enquiry service via both the website, 118800.co.uk, and the > call centre, 118 800, has been taken down so technical work can be > carried out to improve the service. > > The high number of queries 118 800 has received since launching have > highlighted some technical glitches in the system. To ensure 118 800 > provides faultless customer service the decision has been made to > temporarily suspend the service allowing for technical work to be > completed. > > All requests to be made ?ex directory? that have been sent to the > service, via the website or text message, are being dealt with and > these numbers will made ex- directory. There will be no need to > resend these requests to 118 800. 118 800 will begin taking further > ex-directory requests as soon as the service is resumed. > > 118 800 apologies for any inconvenience this has caused callers and > will release a further statement once the service is up and running at > full capacity. > > The landline directory service at 118 800 is still operational." > > > Robbie > > On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:48, Michael Woodhouse wrote: > > Guys > > A bit off topic. But I will ask. What are the thoughts about this > mobile 'phone directory that goes live next week? I tried to make mine > ex-directory but the site is down. > > Michael Woodhouse > mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk > http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sat Jul 11 19:57:30 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:57:30 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: <740D6872-A33C-4E6E-BCE1-5EFD253DBE79@f2s.com> References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> <740D6872-A33C-4E6E-BCE1-5EFD253DBE79@f2s.com> Message-ID: Dear Robbie, Are you sure? I thought Virgin were still onside and that it was BT and Carphone's TalkTalk service who had opted out. Best wishes, David >And has now been abandoned by both BT and Virgin .... > >Privacy 1, Snoopers Nil > >Robbie > > >On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:40, Allan wrote: > > When 'Ads are personalised to due to certain >browsing' without our knowledge we end up with something like the >Phorm controversy which, as we know, caused considerable criticism >from privacy groups and prompted an EU investigation. > >Allan. -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From macman at f2s.com Sat Jul 11 20:35:41 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:35:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> <740D6872-A33C-4E6E-BCE1-5EFD253DBE79@f2s.com> Message-ID: It's debatable David! Take your pick .... http://tinyurl.com/lr6z6s http://tinyurl.com/mym72r Robbie On 11 Jul 2009, at 19:57, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear Robbie, Are you sure? I thought Virgin were still onside and that it was BT and Carphone's TalkTalk service who had opted out. Best wishes, David > And has now been abandoned by both BT and Virgin .... > > Privacy 1, Snoopers Nil > > Robbie > > > On 11 Jul 2009, at 17:40, Allan wrote: > > When 'Ads are personalised to due to certain > browsing' without our knowledge we end up with something like the > Phorm controversy which, as we know, caused considerable criticism > from privacy groups and prompted an EU investigation. > > Allan. -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sat Jul 11 20:56:31 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:56:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Mobile Phone directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DEF86E3-0509-4F19-A249-45B42FF30D3E@gmail.com> On 11 Jul 2009, at 18:01, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Guys > > A bit off topic. But I will ask. What are the thoughts about this > mobile 'phone directory that goes live next week? I tried to make mine > ex-directory but the site is down. > > Michael Woodhouse I'm trying to opt out too. I don't pay for a phone so people can use it to market to me. Now if they said, "can we put calls through to you? For all calls you accept we'll credit you X minutes airtime" then that's a pros and cons deal I can think about. I'd turn it down anyway, but at least they'd be a deal to consider. These jokers want to use something I've paid for so THEY can make money. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sat Jul 11 22:47:17 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:47:17 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Privacy? Paranoia?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Simon wrote: > Your obviously have something to hide. However ever hard you try to > fight it they will find you. > > All this paranoia about privacy, brings me to wonder what it is you > don't want them to find. Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out I've got something to hide. Let me list some of them: Bank accounts... I actually have money and it's accessible to me online. I want to keep it that way. Intellectual Property.. I actually invent things and develop them and want to benefit myself, not some bozo, from my efforts Source code... I've got valuable source code that could help people develop competitive products Patent applications... I do have bright ideas that I consider have value, prior disclosure makes them valueless Legal issues... when someone crosses me, I slap them with a suit. I don't want my side to be known till we get to court Insurance issues... claims arise and need to be followed up, documentation is vital Health issues... Family issues ID theft overall .. it can take up to 2 years to completely eradicate the after effects of ID theft, unless you don't have an ID worth stealing, of course. It's bizarre (at least it is to me) anyone should think it's paranoid to want to protect these. I think it's completely idiotic NOT to want to protect them, but there you go, we differ on this. It's defeatist to assume 'they' will get you anyway. My hope is that the blackhats will pick easy targets, like those who don't pay attention to these issues and take sensible precautions along the way. There is lots one can do to protect oneself. I'm interested in any help I can get. if you've got anything constructive to offer, I am all ears, otherwise ..... From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Jul 11 22:57:24 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:57:24 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Privacy? Paranoia?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29D32824-B9A4-4827-A6CC-C02CB73852AF@simonroyal.co.uk> Stefan I agree completely. My earlier comment was more tongue in cheek. It is not paranoia to want to keep yourself safe. ISPs have no right to track and sell your surfing habits. What the hell has it got to do with them. This is a gut reaction from the government, the RIAA and giants like Microsoft and Adobe trying to cut down on piracy in an attempt to look like they are doing something about it. The internet was never intended as a tracking device or as a way to police people, and it should never be. It is a place for of freedom of information, a communication and distribution method. Hopefully other ISPs will rebel and bring it back to the way it should be. Regards Simon On 11 Jul 2009, at 22:47, stefan youngs wrote: > > Simon wrote: > >> Your obviously have something to hide. However ever hard you try to >> fight it they will find you. >> >> All this paranoia about privacy, brings me to wonder what it is you >> don't want them to find. > > > Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out I've got > something to hide. Let me list some of them: > > Bank accounts... I actually have money and it's accessible to me > online. I want to keep it that way. > Intellectual Property.. I actually invent things and develop them and > want to benefit myself, not some bozo, from my efforts > Source code... I've got valuable source code that could help people > develop competitive products > Patent applications... I do have bright ideas that I consider have > value, prior disclosure makes them valueless > Legal issues... when someone crosses me, I slap them with a suit. I > don't want my side to be known till we get to court > Insurance issues... claims arise and need to be followed up, > documentation is vital > Health issues... > Family issues > ID theft overall .. it can take up to 2 years to completely eradicate > the after effects of ID theft, unless you don't have an ID worth > stealing, of course. > > It's bizarre (at least it is to me) anyone should think it's paranoid > to want to protect these. I think it's completely idiotic NOT to want > to protect them, but there you go, we differ on this. > > It's defeatist to assume 'they' will get you anyway. My hope is that > the blackhats will pick easy targets, like those who don't pay > attention to these issues and take sensible precautions along the way. > There is lots one can do to protect oneself. I'm interested in any > help I can get. if you've got anything constructive to offer, I am all > ears, otherwise ..... > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sun Jul 12 10:25:39 2009 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:25:39 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Protecting Privacy: Net Monitor/Net Monitor Sidekick In-Reply-To: References: <91166051-9541-4938-A12F-83BE5C4680D1@gmail.com> <2C0E3370-87FE-4215-97B7-E41BCDC3962D@simonroyal.co.uk> <3B37F347-0477-4985-9624-0BADF9CF5393@simonroyal.co.uk> <5362B30E-527A-4B5D-A27D-28E6376D4EAD@me.com> <740D6872-A33C-4E6E-BCE1-5EFD253DBE79@f2s.com> Message-ID: Dear Robbie, Well I wrote to Virgin to complain about Phorm and have received not even an acknowledgement. So I suspect they're on the cusp of indecision and that therefore this is just the moment that anyone who's a customer should write in with their objections and threaten to leave. Just the threat will be noticed even if, like me, one has no sensible alternative. Here's their complaint form which is not that easy to find. http://tinyurl.com/6gpz8p Best wishes, David >It's debatable David! > >Take your pick .... > >http://tinyurl.com/lr6z6s > >http://tinyurl.com/mym72r > >Robbie > > > >On 11 Jul 2009, at 19:57, David Van Edwards wrote: > >Dear Robbie, > >Are you sure? I thought Virgin were still onside and that it was BT >and Carphone's TalkTalk service who had opted out. > >Best wishes, > >David > > >> And has now been abandoned by both BT and Virgin .... >> > > Privacy 1, Snoopers Nil -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Sun Jul 12 13:24:58 2009 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:24:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A3DECC0-93DC-4A48-ACA0-0BF5E0E0311F@virgin.net> On 12 Jul 2009, at 11:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: >>> Your obviously have something to hide. However ever hard you try to >>> fight it they will find you. 'Having something to hide' is not necessarily the same as not wanting all and sundry to see! Ken Arnoldi From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Jul 12 14:30:42 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:30:42 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG Digest, Vol 66, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: <0A3DECC0-93DC-4A48-ACA0-0BF5E0E0311F@virgin.net> References: <0A3DECC0-93DC-4A48-ACA0-0BF5E0E0311F@virgin.net> Message-ID: Ken OK. It was a fun poke at Stefan and his one man mission to ultimate privacy. The points he raised were all valid and I am as opposed to spying as he is. I probably do have things to hide. Simon On 12 Jul 2009, at 13:24, Ken Arnoldi wrote: > 'Having something to hide' is not necessarily the same as not wanting > all and sundry to see! Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From alanbarber at mac.com Sun Jul 12 14:57:38 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:57:38 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iphoto Message-ID: <6A799A7F-B79F-4707-A968-6FE402994E38@mac.com> I have adjusted some snaps in iphoto and cannot print to exact size I want. If I upload to my mobileme gallery could someone download and burn to cd please. I would like them 2.5 inches wide x 3 inches high. Quite happy to paid a fee. Someone mentioned gimp as an alternative to photoshop, I assume I could resize using that. Regards Alan From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Sun Jul 12 16:12:10 2009 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:12:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] iphoto In-Reply-To: <6A799A7F-B79F-4707-A968-6FE402994E38@mac.com> References: <6A799A7F-B79F-4707-A968-6FE402994E38@mac.com> Message-ID: <23C48264-5F96-40CA-B13A-508158349014@freeflightsupplies.co.uk> You should go into edit. Then into Crop There you will see sizes that you can custom constrain to. You can customise to whatever size you want. Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/ On 12 Jul 2009, at 14:57, Alan Barber wrote: > I have adjusted some snaps in iphoto and cannot print to exact size I > want. > If I upload to my mobileme gallery could someone download and burn to > cd please. > I would like them 2.5 inches wide x 3 inches high. > Quite happy to paid a fee. > > Someone mentioned gimp as an alternative to photoshop, I assume I > could resize using that. > > Regards > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From allanmacam at me.com Sun Jul 12 20:07:08 2009 From: allanmacam at me.com (Allan) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:07:08 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Privacy? Paranoia?? In-Reply-To: <29D32824-B9A4-4827-A6CC-C02CB73852AF@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <29D32824-B9A4-4827-A6CC-C02CB73852AF@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Another look at this issue is here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8144713.stm From michelehurst at mac.com Mon Jul 13 11:17:14 2009 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:17:14 -0700 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic Message-ID: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> Hi I have a 30gig about 3 years old (4th gen?) which now freezes about every 4th track. It resets as per the apple instructions but still freezes constantly. Is it curtains or is there anything that can be done. I have a lot of music on it but cannot also find any way of transferring from the ipod to my power book . Any cures known????? Thanks Michele From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 13 11:19:13 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:19:13 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> References: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <14846E14-AED4-4A05-89FA-96ED584F4D1E@simonroyal.co.uk> Michelle No ideas on fixing the problem. But if you want to take it off your iPod onto your PowerBook, I suggest using YamiPod Simon On 13 Jul 2009, at 11:17, Michele Hurst wrote: > Hi I have a 30gig about 3 years old (4th gen?) which now freezes > about every 4th track. It resets as per the apple instructions but > still freezes constantly. Is it curtains or is there anything that > can be done. I have a lot of music on it but cannot also find any > way of transferring from the ipod to my power book . Any cures > known????? > Thanks > Michele > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Jul 13 12:02:11 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:02:11 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> References: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <4EFA62FC-D824-4A29-9933-63347B91C9FD@durrant.co.uk> It sounds like the internal hard disk is starting to fail. There's lots of third-party ways to get the music, if just plugging in to iTunes doesn't now offer to copy the data. There are repair services, e.g. https://www.ipod-surgery.co.uk/step-two.aspx?IPodID=5 But I have no experience of them. Looking around it'll cost a little under ?100 for collection/repair/return, but perhaps somewhere in Norwich can help. Bite Systems, perhaps? Paul On 13 Jul 2009, at 11:17, Michele Hurst wrote: > Hi I have a 30gig about 3 years old (4th gen?) which now freezes > about every 4th track. It resets as per the apple instructions but > still freezes constantly. Is it curtains or is there anything that > can be done. I have a lot of music on it but cannot also find any > way of transferring from the ipod to my power book . Any cures > known????? From macman at f2s.com Mon Jul 13 13:02:51 2009 From: macman at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:02:51 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> References: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <48AEAA7D-7A8C-4D1C-9AD4-98BA32E9F6CF@f2s.com> it only works one way - computer to iPod. Is the music not on your Powerbook? if so, you can restore the software on the iPod, which will clear it completely, then reload. If, however, it was synched from a different computer, Apple won't let you you transfer it back to a computer. there are several 3rd party Freeware programmes, however - you could try iPodRip - http://tinyurl.com/n7a92u Hope this helps Robbie On 13 Jul 2009, at 11:17, Michele Hurst wrote: Hi I have a 30gig about 3 years old (4th gen?) which now freezes about every 4th track. It resets as per the apple instructions but still freezes constantly. Is it curtains or is there anything that can be done. I have a lot of music on it but cannot also find any way of transferring from the ipod to my power book . Any cures known????? Thanks Michele _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From penguin.999 at virgin.net Mon Jul 13 13:18:20 2009 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:18:20 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: <48AEAA7D-7A8C-4D1C-9AD4-98BA32E9F6CF@f2s.com> References: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> <48AEAA7D-7A8C-4D1C-9AD4-98BA32E9F6CF@f2s.com> Message-ID: The program I use to transfer from iPod to computer is Senuti, works very well. A sticky iPod can sometimes be recovered as a temporary measure by hitting it hard! First try banging it down on a flat hard surface on the bottom edge but keep it straight so not to hit a corner first. Two or three of those (with more power than you first think is right!) might solve it but if not bang it again flat on its back again making sure you do it so the whole surface hits together and not on an edge. Might give you enough time to extract the music before it goes again. Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 13 13:20:37 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:20:37 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: References: <130930868790319223693994742541836913345-Webmail@me.com> <48AEAA7D-7A8C-4D1C-9AD4-98BA32E9F6CF@f2s.com> Message-ID: Paul Senuti is great, but it is not free anymore. Simon On 13 Jul 2009, at 13:18, Paul Chapman wrote: > The program I use to transfer from iPod to computer is Senuti, works > very well. > > A sticky iPod can sometimes be recovered as a temporary measure by > hitting it hard! First try banging it down on a flat hard surface on > the bottom edge but keep it straight so not to hit a corner first. Two > or three of those (with more power than you first think is right!) > might solve it but if not bang it again flat on its back again making > sure you do it so the whole surface hits together and not on an edge. > > Might give you enough time to extract the music before it goes again. > > Paul C > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Jul 13 14:39:49 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:39:49 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <505E26D3-CB1B-4B5E-A2AA-B45202274EBE@gmail.com> > From: Michele Hurst > Subject: [NMUG] frozen ipod classic > > > Hi I have a 30gig about 3 years old (4th gen?) which now freezes > about every 4th track. It resets as per the apple instructions but > still freezes constantly. Is it curtains or is there anything that > can be done. I have a lot of music on it but cannot also find any > way of transferring from the ipod to my power book . Any cures > known????? > Thanks > Michele My brother Kelvin has experience of a really superb iPod repair facility. I'll ask him to forward the details. From what he tells me, they can fix anything. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Jul 13 15:48:48 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:48:48 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Intego Message-ID: Has anyone experience of using Intego's NetBarrier product? http://www.intego.com/netbarrier/ Any other suggestions for applying security to the Mac? From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Mon Jul 13 16:18:19 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:18:19 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Intego In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B8418C3-C08F-46CF-83FB-74DD8D88FBCE@gmail.com> Hi Stefan. For security on Macs I use 'iAntivirus'. It was recommended in Macformat magazine a year or so ago, It's served myself and countless others well since then, it's not resource hungry AND it's free. Google 'iAntivrus', there are write-ups to read before you try! On 13 Jul 2009, at 15:48, stefan youngs wrote: applying security to the Mac? Richard rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Jul 13 16:24:31 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:24:31 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Intego In-Reply-To: <2B8418C3-C08F-46CF-83FB-74DD8D88FBCE@gmail.com> References: <2B8418C3-C08F-46CF-83FB-74DD8D88FBCE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EB0C46E-D045-47EB-A5CE-3878A0CD08D7@simonroyal.co.uk> Richard Just checked it out and it looks good, but it does require 10.5 and an Intel machine. Simon On 13 Jul 2009, at 16:18, Richard Stewart wrote: > iAntivirus Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com Mon Jul 13 16:46:04 2009 From: rchrdstwrt43 at googlemail.com (Richard Stewart) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:46:04 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Intego In-Reply-To: <3EB0C46E-D045-47EB-A5CE-3878A0CD08D7@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <2B8418C3-C08F-46CF-83FB-74DD8D88FBCE@gmail.com> <3EB0C46E-D045-47EB-A5CE-3878A0CD08D7@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Simon, I've spent the last 10 minutes reading through the various posts regarding iAntivirus and conclude that your correct. As all my machines have been Intel beasts, I didn't give a thought to our Power brethren - apologies to you all. It is a very good tool for Intel users I will restate. On 13 Jul 2009, at 16:24, Simon Royal wrote: it does require 10.5 and an Intel machine. Richard Stewart rchrdstwrt43 at gmail.com From brian at clearlight.uk.net Tue Jul 14 09:02:47 2009 From: brian at clearlight.uk.net (Brian Steere) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:02:47 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ibook screen backlight problem Message-ID: I have someone with a 12inch iBook 800 with screen backlight cutting out with movement of hinge. Seems very likely to be a cable issue rather than logic board etc. Is anyone reading this confident and competent to sort it ? and what is a likely cost? And despite symptoms of lid movement cutting out display could it be anything else? The screen remains faintly visible and active when cutting out. I?d reset power manager and pram and the screen came back ? but then movement of hinge results in intermittent loss of screen. all the best Brian From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 14 09:29:46 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:29:46 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] ibook screen backlight problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89757873-A25D-4E98-BACB-F7E1D3C75C13@simonroyal.co.uk> Brian I have had a couple do this in the past. Most of the time it is a cable. The screen cable goes from the screen down to the logic board via the silver hinges and opening and shutting it after a while rubs on the cable too much and it splits it. To replace this is tricky (even for an iBook expert like myself), it requires the screen to be disassembled, which is quite awkward on these. It could be a logic board issue, but from what you describe, it looks more likely to be a cable issue. Does the screen go out when it is pushed all the way back. There is a common problem with them if the screen is at full stretch dubbed the 110% screen blackout. Simon On 14 Jul 2009, at 09:02, Brian Steere wrote: > I have someone with a 12inch iBook 800 with screen backlight cutting > out > with movement of hinge. > Seems very likely to be a cable issue rather than logic board etc. > Is anyone reading this confident and competent to sort it ? and what > is a > likely cost? > And despite symptoms of lid movement cutting out display could it be > anything else? > The screen remains faintly visible and active when cutting out. > I?d reset power manager and pram and the screen came back ? but then > movement of hinge results in intermittent loss of screen. > > all the best > Brian > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 14 12:13:12 2009 From: stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk (Stair) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:13:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi Simon, Are you still wanting the RAM mentioned on this forum a little while back now. If you send details of your address either privately or on here then I can post them for you tomorrow. Best wishes, Stair From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Tue Jul 14 12:34:09 2009 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:34:09 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] MacPro Message-ID: <3F5838C2-3793-4D9E-B831-4348EBD41AD5@virgin.net> A silly question to ask But would my new MacPro be an intel machine or power PC? Martin From alanbarber at mac.com Tue Jul 14 12:35:13 2009 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:35:13 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] MacPro In-Reply-To: <3F5838C2-3793-4D9E-B831-4348EBD41AD5@virgin.net> References: <3F5838C2-3793-4D9E-B831-4348EBD41AD5@virgin.net> Message-ID: <448E0264-D23D-43C7-A201-B85F6591DFB0@mac.com> intel Regards Alan On 14 Jul 2009, at 12:34, Martin Fry wrote: > A silly question to ask > > But would my new MacPro be an intel machine or power PC? > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From tomkershaw at mac.com Tue Jul 14 12:39:42 2009 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:39:42 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] MacPro In-Reply-To: <3F5838C2-3793-4D9E-B831-4348EBD41AD5@virgin.net> References: <3F5838C2-3793-4D9E-B831-4348EBD41AD5@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4A5C6E7E.1070208@mac.com> All MacPro machines are intel. www.apple.com/macpro Tom. Martin Fry wrote: > A silly question to ask > > But would my new MacPro be an intel machine or power PC? > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 14 13:21:49 2009 From: stairbooks at yahoo.co.uk (Stair) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:21:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Simon, No worries. One stick of PC133 128MB may help a bit if you want to part with it. If you don't it doesn't matter. Here are my details just in case: Alistair Hindmarch 1 Prospect Terrace Carrow Road Norwich NR1 1HR Send me your details and I'll post them today or tomorrow morning if you like. Stair From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Jul 14 13:33:10 2009 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:33:10 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Antivirus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 14 Jul 2009, at 12:00, nmug-request at durrant.co.uk wrote: > Hi Stefan. For security on Macs I use 'iAntivirus'. It was recommended > in Macformat magazine a year or so ago, It's served myself and > Thanks for the info on this Richard. I am going to give this a try. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 14 13:40:39 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:40:39 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <457C8E99-11C6-4BE0-BD90-8350F9CA95AC@simonroyal.co.uk> Alistair My address is: Simon Royal [snipped address] I will gladly send you the 128MB. I may have some more in the near future, some 128MB and 256MB sticks. I will forward them on to you if you like. Simon On 14 Jul 2009, at 13:21, Stair wrote: > Simon, > > No worries. One stick of PC133 128MB may help a bit if you want to > part with it. If you don't it doesn't matter. > > Here are my details just in case: > Alistair Hindmarch > 1 Prospect Terrace > Carrow Road > Norwich > NR1 1HR > > Send me your details and I'll post them today or tomorrow morning if > you like. > > Stair > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 14 14:18:00 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:18:00 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] RAM Wanted In-Reply-To: <457C8E99-11C6-4BE0-BD90-8350F9CA95AC@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <457C8E99-11C6-4BE0-BD90-8350F9CA95AC@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <33906DBF-9F26-41BA-987B-7BF578AA021F@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi Oops. That will teach me not to check the email address things come from. Well, now you all know where I live. Ha ha ha. Seems quite funny when we were talking about privacy only a few days ago. Simon PS. Paul. Is there anyway to remove this from the list so it doesn't get Googled. On 14 Jul 2009, at 13:40, Simon Royal wrote: > Alistair > > My address is: > > Simon Royal > [snipped address] > > I will gladly send you the 128MB. I may have some more in the near > future, some 128MB and 256MB sticks. I will forward them on to you if > you like. > > Simon > > On 14 Jul 2009, at 13:21, Stair wrote: > >> Simon, >> >> No worries. One stick of PC133 128MB may help a bit if you want to >> part with it. If you don't it doesn't matter. >> >> Here are my details just in case: >> Alistair Hindmarch >> 1 Prospect Terrace >> Carrow Road >> Norwich >> NR1 1HR >> >> Send me your details and I'll post them today or tomorrow morning if >> you like. >> >> Stair >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > > Simon Royal > --- > Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on > 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, > SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...) From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Jul 14 14:59:41 2009 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:59:41 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Removing messages from the archive In-Reply-To: <33906DBF-9F26-41BA-987B-7BF578AA021F@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <457C8E99-11C6-4BE0-BD90-8350F9CA95AC@simonroyal.co.uk> <33906DBF-9F26-41BA-987B-7BF578AA021F@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <31092C68-BBED-45F9-8186-B2A5D74279F3@durrant.co.uk> It is just possible for me to remove something from the list archive and make sure it'll never get rebuilt. But it is a manual and awkward process, that I'd have to look up how to do. I feel if you were really worried, you wouldn't have quoted it back to the list in your second message. However, if you really would rather it wasn't there, I'll have a go. Paul On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:18, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Oops. That will teach me not to check the email address things come > from. > > Well, now you all know where I live. Ha ha ha. > > Seems quite funny when we were talking about privacy only a few days > ago. > > Simon > > PS. Paul. Is there anyway to remove this from the list so it doesn't > get Googled. > > On 14 Jul 2009, at 13:40, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Alistair >> >> My address is: >> >> Simon Royal >> [address snipped] From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Jul 14 15:02:12 2009 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:02:12 +0100 Subject: [NMUG] Removing messages from the archive In-Reply-To: <31092C68-BBED-45F9-8186-B2A5D74279F3@durrant.co.uk> References: <351910.69015.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <6893E66E-06FB-4956-A8B3-1D1A8F52ACF1@simonroyal.co.uk> <227978.95352.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <709FAE0B-EF35-4A09-A9CB-856E2FBC007A@simonroyal.co.uk> <60858.13251.qm@web26102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <457C8E99-11C6-4BE0-BD90-8350F9CA95AC@simonroyal.co.uk> <33906DBF-9F26-41BA-987B-7BF578AA021F@simonroyal.co.uk> <31092C68-BBED-45F9-8186-B2A5D74279F3@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <653B7ADD-D217-473A-9D6D-8DBC6474AC2B@simonroyal.co.uk> Paul It was a mistake on my part. I thought I was replying direct to him. Didn't check first. If you could it would be great, but if not, don't worry. Simon On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:59, Paul Durrant wrote: > It is just possible for me to remove something from the list archive > and make sure it'll never get rebuilt. > > But it is a manual and awkward process, that I'd have to look up how > to do. > > I feel if you were really worried, you wouldn't have quoted it back to > the list in your second message. > > However, if you really would rather it wasn't there, I'll have a go. > > Paul > > On 14 Jul 2009, at 14:18, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Oops. That will teach me not to check the email address things come >> from. >> >> Well, now you all know where I live. Ha ha ha. >> >> Seems quite funny when we were talking about privacy only a few days >> ago. >> >> Simon >> >> PS. Paul. Is there anyway to remove this from the list so it doesn't >> get Googled. >> >> On 14 Jul 2009, at 13:40, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> Alistair >>> >>> My address is: >>> >>> Simon Royal >>> [address snipped] > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > Simon Royal --- Visit my Mac site at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk. Or Skype me on 'Simon-Royal'. (Apple PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, SuperDrive. Mac OSX 10.5, 10.4 & 9.2.2...)