From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 2 15:16:14 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:16:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mailing List Message-ID: The mailing list server machine is back up. Sorry for the interruption. There might be some short interruptions over the next couple of weeks, but I don't think anyone will notice, so I won't be announcing them. Paul From email.news at mac.com Sun Nov 2 18:19:45 2008 From: email.news at mac.com (Andrew B) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:19:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] FS: iPod+ Message-ID: <2880C8F5-C888-465A-97AE-54A403A878C5@mac.com> I thought I would offer it here first before eBay. Apple Video 5th generation iPod (80gb) Apple Universal Dock Gear4 Blu-Eye Headset & Radio Griffin iTrip ?110 ono Unless someone only want the iPod I am currently looking to sell as a package. Regards, AndrewB From alanbarber at mac.com Mon Nov 3 08:05:29 2008 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:05:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal Message-ID: <470F5112-2A68-410A-A691-44F012205B67@mac.com> Paul Please may I use NMUGS to ask if anyone has any dealings with ebay and Paypal disputes. I sent an item to Russia almost 30 days ago and now he is saying he hasn't received it. I am trying to working through the online instructions and of course for the time being paypal want ?1165 back till the dispute is settled. If you have dealt with a similar situation perhaps you would contact me off group. Thanks Regards Alan From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Nov 3 09:30:28 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:30:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Karl - eMacs In-Reply-To: <000a01c93b54$8bc73630$0200a8c0@peter225c44749> References: <000a01c93b54$8bc73630$0200a8c0@peter225c44749> Message-ID: <55BA534F-9272-48CA-9FF3-D90B496A16EA@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> On 31 Oct 2008, at 12:31, Peter Hunter wrote: > Hi Karl, I have lost your email address. Any news on the eMacs yet? Is everyone aware that there is a list archive that has every post that is made to the list in a nice website? This means you can see what people have posted even after having deleted the email. It also means that you can find people's email addresses http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/ is the archive http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2008-October/018307.html is the last time Karl posted by the looks Thanks, -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 3 09:37:41 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 03 Nov 2008 09:37:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Karl - eMacs In-Reply-To: <55BA534F-9272-48CA-9FF3-D90B496A16EA@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> References: <000a01c93b54$8bc73630$0200a8c0@peter225c44749> <55BA534F-9272-48CA-9FF3-D90B496A16EA@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Message-ID: David Thanks for that, just found my first ever post to NMUG. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 3 2008, David Reynolds wrote: On 31 Oct 2008, at 12:31, Peter Hunter wrote: > Hi Karl, I have lost your email address. Any news on the eMacs yet? Is everyone aware that there is a list archive that has every post that is made to the list in a nice website? This means you can see what people have posted even after having deleted the email. It also means that you can find people's email addresses http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/ is the archive http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2008-October/018307.html is the last time Karl posted by the looks Thanks, From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 3 10:02:27 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:02:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Uncaught bounce notification References: Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Clare Galton" > Date: 30 October 2008 10:36:46 GMT > To: > Subject: Thank you message > > > Dear Norfolk Mac User group > Just so say thanks to all who responded to my request for help for > my mother-in-law, who has been struggling to use her Mac. She has > made an arrangement to take lessons with someone who lives locally. > I can see that she has a community of local Mac users to turn to for > help, so here's hoping she will enjoy joining the computer age and > the Mac will no longer gather dust in the corner. > > With kind regards, > Clare Galton > > > > > From jeremyknight at mac.com Mon Nov 3 10:44:37 2008 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:44:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PRINTING MULTIPLE INVOICES Message-ID: <3215600B-9D2A-4336-BB93-11D46F691057@mac.com> Morning All, NIce to be back on line again. I am now moving over to using Ebay selling manager pro to produce my invoice/packing slips. I can do single slips no problem. But,when I try to multiple slips all the information is correct on the page with the invoices one below the other,then when I go to print The first invoice is fine, then ,on the rest only the address of the recipient appears not the content of the invoice.Any thoughts please? jeremy From peter.hunter1 at sky.com Mon Nov 3 10:59:27 2008 From: peter.hunter1 at sky.com (Peter Hunter) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:59:27 -0000 Subject: [NMUG] Karl - eMacs References: <000a01c93b54$8bc73630$0200a8c0@peter225c44749> <55BA534F-9272-48CA-9FF3-D90B496A16EA@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Message-ID: <001b01c93da3$3f0f4a20$0200a8c0@peter225c44749> Yes, but not everyone was aware that at the time the server was switched off. Regards, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reynolds" To: "Norwich Mac User Group list" Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [NMUG] Karl - eMacs > > On 31 Oct 2008, at 12:31, Peter Hunter wrote: > >> Hi Karl, I have lost your email address. Any news on the eMacs yet? > > > Is everyone aware that there is a list archive that has every post that > is made to the list in a nice website? This means you can see what > people have posted even after having deleted the email. It also means > that you can find people's email addresses > > http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/ is the archive > > http://mail.durrant.co.uk/pipermail/nmug/2008-October/018307.html is the > last time Karl posted by the looks > > Thanks, > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From alanbarber at mac.com Mon Nov 3 13:11:35 2008 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:11:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal Message-ID: Thanks to all those who responded to my plea. Doesn't look very good does it. I was hoping for a bit more practical help as I find the website so confusing. Regards Alan From mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk Mon Nov 3 13:17:17 2008 From: mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk (Michael Woodhouse) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:17:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] IBook Message-ID: Guys Does anyone have experience of using IBook to publish photographs? My Daughter has just made a book. Sarah uses a Cannon 30D camera which is well up to the mark and she takes some cracking stuff. The book was well down on the expected quality in the colours, contrast and the sharpness of the images as against what one would expect from colour prints. The paper quality of the book was also very thin and cheap. Not up to the expected Apple standards. She got her money back as it ain't a cheap option. The book was apparently produced in the Czech Republic and does look like a bit of the old Cheap Eastern European stuff. Very disappointing. Any experiences or thoughts? Who should we direct this to inside Apple so they can get it sorted? Michael Woodhouse mike at freeflightsupplies.co.uk http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 3 14:41:39 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:41:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Original iPhone Message-ID: <8QMxpX3mwTsN.rTBlTx7Y@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Hi. Looks like I am moving over to O2. I should be getting the LG Viewty with my contract but obviously am hankering after the iPhone. I know Andrew from the group has one and loves it, but I'd like to know if anyone else has one and what they think. O2 are the best for reception out here, but we have yet to enter the realms of 3G. I am talking about the original iPhone and not the new 3G one. What is it like as a phone? How good is text input? How good is email and web on it? What about battery life? What are the minimum computer specs needed? I pressume I can put any O2 sim in and it will work, even a Pay-As-You-Go. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 3 14:43:40 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:43:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone Wanted Message-ID: Hi. Following my previous post. If anyone has an original iPhone for sale I'd be interested. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com Mon Nov 3 20:06:52 2008 From: rachaelandrews at ntlworld.com (Rachael) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:06:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Original iPhone In-Reply-To: <8QMxpX3mwTsN.rTBlTx7Y@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> References: <8QMxpX3mwTsN.rTBlTx7Y@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <61234BBD-278C-4D18-84A0-002FD1C3E9B6@ntlworld.com> Hi Simon, I've had one for a year since they came out, I've just changed to a Nokia E90 literally in this last few days. I changed only because I can't see to use the iPhone anymore and there is currently no speech output software for it to make it accessible to me, so it had to go. I loved the iPhone but apart from this issue the other issues that I felt were a let down were: No MMS. Still ! No bluetooth file sending. And turn by turn voice guidance for gps still isn't available (even though I woulda had to buy a new one for that, anyway). However, the interface is to die for, the text input takes abit to get used to but can be suprisingly intuitive imho - as long as you can see enough to be fairly accurate. It's not T9 but it is a form of correction that can be useful if you can't spell or are not 100% accurate. Too far from the correct letters and you're stumped though - at least I was. And there are many cool things at the apps store for free and pennies. ;) Battery life was quite good in my experience. It seemed to last forever on standby. The web I didn't often use because even with zooming gestures it was too small for me to see. Email was annoying in the fact that you can't empty a mailbox en masse with one command. But all of it was easy to set up in any case. As a phone, the call quality was pretty fine, warm and clear. From what I understand, you can put any O2 sim in it and away you go. Here's a good page from O2 http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/usinganoriginaliphone Anyway, I hope that helps. I might think about selling mine - I wonder what the going rate is ? Rachael On 3 Nov 2008, at 14:41, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi. > > Looks like I am moving over to O2. I should be getting the LG Viewty > with my contract but obviously am hankering after the iPhone. > > I know Andrew from the group has one and loves it, but I'd like to > know if anyone else has one and what they think. > > O2 are the best for reception out here, but we have yet to enter the > realms of 3G. > > I am talking about the original iPhone and not the new 3G one. > > What is it like as a phone? How good is text input? How good is > email and web on it? What about battery life? > > What are the minimum computer specs needed? > > I pressume I can put any O2 sim in and it will work, even a Pay-As- > You-Go. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent > using Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Mon Nov 3 23:03:30 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:03:30 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPhone 3G dock adaptors Message-ID: Hi, I don't suppose anyone is interested in an iPhone 3G universal dock adaptor? I had to buy a pack of 3 and I only needed one, so I have 2 remaining. Anyone want one for ?1.50 delivered? Thanks, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Tue Nov 4 08:25:08 2008 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:25:08 +0000 Subject: Fwd: [NMUG] FW: poorly g4 power book References: Message-ID: <4A888FBB-51BE-43BE-95E1-851DB75612FF@zen.co.uk> Have you tried booting from the system disk? Have you had a folder with a ? mark flash? If so might be a dead drive. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Begin forwarded message: > From: "Simon Royal" > Date: 30 October 2008 20:55:29 GMT > To: NMUG > Subject: [NMUG] FW: poorly g4 power book > Reply-To: Simon Royal > > Hi. > > Can someone please help Michellle. > > Simon > > -original message- > Subject: poorly g4 power book > From: michelehurst > Date: 30/10/2008 20:30 > > Hi Simon > I did mail the nmug group but my mail does not seem to have appeared > and > I thought you might be able to help me. My g4 power book gets as far > as > the apple screen with the grey circly thing going round as though it > is > thinking but then will not actually boot up. Ithought you might know > who > the best person to take it to might be> (Clue, I am not a rich woman > but > my mac means everything to me!!) > Hope you can help > Thanks > Michele > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 4 08:38:21 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Nov 2008 08:38:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DLink Wireless G122 In Leopard Message-ID: Hi I have a DLink DWL-G122 USB wireless dongle which works fine in Tiger. Does anyone know if it works in Leopard? In Tiger it uses the RaLink drivers, not the built in Airport drivers. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From eenow at tiscali.co.uk Tue Nov 4 12:12:51 2008 From: eenow at tiscali.co.uk (NC) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:12:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RESETTING KEY CHAIN PASSWORD In-Reply-To: <20081104120003.8462B7D090F@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081104120003.8462B7D090F@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <49103C43.2010201@tiscali.co.uk> I have forgotten my keychain password and I'm asked for it regularly when I open applications. - how do I reset pls? I am Administrator account on machine e~Mac, running OSX 10.3.8 and cant use system discs because the disc drive doesn't work properly. thanks best wishes Nigel > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 4 12:40:49 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:40:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] No Sim iPhone In-Reply-To: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <9827035F-60D6-49AD-9202-5440C81DC1A4@gmail.com> > > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:41:39 +0000 > From: "Simon Royal" > Subject: [NMUG] Original iPhone > > > I pressume I can put any O2 sim in and it will work, even a Pay-As- > You-Go. > > Simon Have you been sleeping these past 2 years. No, you can't 'put' an O2 SIM in.. you can't even open it to change the battery. There was a large amount of negative publicity on this very point, From munkt0n at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 12:46:46 2008 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:46:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] No Sim iPhone In-Reply-To: <9827035F-60D6-49AD-9202-5440C81DC1A4@gmail.com> References: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> <9827035F-60D6-49AD-9202-5440C81DC1A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: what has replacing the battery got to do with inserting a PaYG SIM? you can't "legally" insert any PaYG SIM, but once a custom firmware has been loaded on to the phone you can bung any old SIM into it. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:40 PM, stefan youngs < stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:41:39 +0000 >> From: "Simon Royal" >> Subject: [NMUG] Original iPhone >> >> >> I pressume I can put any O2 sim in and it will work, even a Pay-As-You-Go. >> >> Simon >> > > Have you been sleeping these past 2 years. No, you can't 'put' an O2 SIM > in.. you can't even open it to change the battery. There was a large amount > of negative publicity on this very point, > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 4 13:05:11 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:05:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mea Culpa.. ref iPhone SIM In-Reply-To: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <25D5FC1A-4077-4F01-9637-2BFD591741C5@gmail.com> I had no idea the original iPhone allowed you to remove a SIM card. I read the adverse publicity to mean the phone was as impregnable as a Scotsman's wallet. (Oh no.. I'm going to get a barrage of emails from McSporran and co) From robbiemurray at f2s.com Tue Nov 4 13:12:12 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:12:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mea Culpa.. ref iPhone SIM In-Reply-To: <25D5FC1A-4077-4F01-9637-2BFD591741C5@gmail.com> References: <20081104120003.2B5B97D090E@mail.durrant.co.uk> <25D5FC1A-4077-4F01-9637-2BFD591741C5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C8AC8CF-88D6-4D4A-ACF0-77F1E09EEE80@f2s.com> I don't have a wallet ..... On 4 Nov 2008, at 13:05, stefan youngs wrote: I had no idea the original iPhone allowed you to remove a SIM card. I read the adverse publicity to mean the phone was as impregnable as a Scotsman's wallet. (Oh no.. I'm going to get a barrage of emails from McSporran and co) _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From paul at durrant.co.uk Tue Nov 4 14:09:46 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:09:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RESETTING KEY CHAIN PASSWORD In-Reply-To: <49103C43.2010201@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20081104120003.8462B7D090F@mail.durrant.co.uk> <49103C43.2010201@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: The keychain password is secure - there's no back-door. If you forget your keychain password you can't get access to the items in the keychain. But I think you can just delete the keychain and then make a new one, with a new password, using the Keychain Access utility. Paul On 4 Nov 2008, at 12:12, NC wrote: > I have forgotten my keychain password and I'm asked for it regularly > when I open applications. > > - how do I reset pls? > > I am Administrator account on machine e~Mac, running OSX 10.3.8 and > cant use system discs because the disc drive doesn't work properly. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 4 15:15:02 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Nov 2008 15:15:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Airport Extreme Cards Needed Message-ID: Hi I just bought 3 eMacs. 1x 1.25Ghz and 2x 800Mhz. I presumed the 800Mhz took original Airport cards of which I have a couple, but they don't they take Airport Extreme. I have a DLink USB DWL G122 which I am using on the 1.25Ghz eMac (running Leopard) and it works ok, but the other two eMacs which are for my two sons have nothing. Does anyone have any spare Airport Extreme cards or USB dongles that work in Tiger. My two boys wre looking forward to having their Macs and now they are not online. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 4 17:46:47 2008 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:46:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] Wanted 15' Powerbook Ti Parts Message-ID: <919337.92607.qm@web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi All Im in need of a keyboard and screen for a 400MHz 15' Powerbook Ti. No looking to spend to much as I only paid 3.89 for what I have here, that and the fact its going to be for my 3 year old! ? Thanks Joe From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 4 19:13:58 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Nov 2008 19:13:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] USB Wireless Keeps Dropping Message-ID: Hi My DLink DWL G122 is working fine in Leopard, however every so often at random intervals it will suddenly appear as if the device has been removed. If I pull it out and put it back in it works again. Any ideas? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 4 19:18:38 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Nov 2008 19:18:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Screen Burn In Message-ID: Hi My new eMac is working lovely, but I have noticed a dark square in the middle of the screen. All three machines took a while for the screens to work properly. The two 800's were very fuzzy and slightly green tinted for about 5 minutes and then it wore off and has been fine all day. The 1.25 was fuzzy and green too which has cleared up but it also looks like the Mac OSX start up screen (with the box in it that loads) has burnt into the screen slightly. It has gotten less as the day goes on but is still quite noticeable, leaving a dark shading in the centre. Will this disappear eventually? Can I do anything to help it? I picked up a bunch of iMac G3s a while ago which hadn't been turned on for a while and the screens needed 'warming up' and then they were fine, so I think these eMacs haven't been used for a while. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 4 22:44:08 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 04 Nov 2008 22:44:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iMac G3 Bracket & WaveLAN Card... On eBay Message-ID: Hi I know this is a bit of shameless plugging but I have just listed my iMac G3 Airport bracket and WaveLAN wireless Airport card on eBay. As these are increasingly hard to find I thought I would share it on here in case anyone needed one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170276741795 Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 5 00:07:13 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 05 Nov 2008 00:07:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Buffalo AirStation WLI-CB-G54A and other G cards Message-ID: Hi I know I have compiled a list of Mac compatible PCMCIA cards, but a small point has eluded me. http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/html/maccards.html The original Airport card is only 802.11b. Some of the cards that fit in the PCMCIA slots of PowerBooks and are recognised as Airport cards by the machine are 802.11g. So does these technically give you Airport Extreme in a Mac that originally had Airport. OSX works with both Airport and Airport Extreme. I ask this as a friend of mine has a PowerBook and a Buffalo AirStation WLI-CB-G54A which when popped in the side of his Mac shows up as Airport. This is technically a G card, but will the Mac pick it up as a G card or only work as a B card. Sorry for the rather messy message but I know what I am trying to ask but my brain isn't moving it to my fingers. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 5 00:12:06 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 05 Nov 2008 00:12:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Buffalo AirStation WLI-CB-G54A and other G cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Why oh why once I have written a message do I suddenly find the answer. I just checked System Profiler and under the Airport Card section it lists the type of card that is in your machine. So my friends Pismo which originally only supported Airport, now has a card in the side which runs and is detected by the Mac as an Airport Extreme and so technically will run at Airport Extreme speeds. Is there anyway to test this? I know surfing or downloading will be any different, but file transfers across the network should be different since both machines will have an 11g card in it. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 5 2008, Simon Royal wrote: Hi I know I have compiled a list of Mac compatible PCMCIA cards, but a small point has eluded me. http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/html/maccards.html The original Airport card is only 802.11b. Some of the cards that fit in the PCMCIA slots of PowerBooks and are recognised as Airport cards by the machine are 802.11g. So does these technically give you Airport Extreme in a Mac that originally had Airport. OSX works with both Airport and Airport Extreme. I ask this as a friend of mine has a PowerBook and a Buffalo AirStation WLI-CB-G54A which when popped in the side of his Mac shows up as Airport. This is technically a G card, but will the Mac pick it up as a G card or only work as a B card. Sorry for the rather messy message but I know what I am trying to ask but my brain isn't moving it to my fingers. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 5 08:11:16 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:11:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Buffalo AirStation WLI-CB-G54A and other G cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27D94967-11A4-43A0-BAA1-CA137DB97121@durrant.co.uk> I think that the interface has some speed limit, so you may not get full 802.11g performance out of it, but it should be better throughput than an 802.11b device. It also means you no longer need to support 802.11b at your basestation, which will speed things up for all the 802.11g items connected. Paul On 5 Nov 2008, at 00:12, Simon Royal wrote: > Why oh why once I have written a message do I suddenly find the > answer. I just checked System Profiler and under the Airport Card > section it lists the type of card that is in your machine. > > So my friends Pismo which originally only supported Airport, now has > a card in the side which runs and is detected by the Mac as an > Airport Extreme and so technically will run at Airport Extreme speeds. > > Is there anyway to test this? I know surfing or downloading will be > any different, but file transfers across the network should be > different since both machines will have an 11g card in it. > From alanbarber at mac.com Wed Nov 5 10:48:08 2008 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:48:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal Message-ID: Sorry about this but does anyone have an opinion on whether or not I should escalate my dispute to a claim. If I do I have to abide by paypals decision. But do I have another choice. From your comments I feel as if I do not. Regards Alan From robbiemurray at f2s.com Wed Nov 5 11:03:03 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:03:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5110D19C-115C-4EAC-A944-B54CFA9F4D98@f2s.com> Hi Alan Not very helpful in your current situation, but I would warn against shipping to any former soviet country - our business is Mail Order and we gave up on them some years ago due to 'non arrival' May be poor logistics or simply crooked punters, but either way, not worth the hassle. FYI, we also avoid Italy, as the Italian postal service is appalling ..... You have my sympathy ... Robbie On 5 Nov 2008, at 10:48, Alan Barber wrote: Sorry about this but does anyone have an opinion on whether or not I should escalate my dispute to a claim. If I do I have to abide by paypals decision. But do I have another choice. From your comments I feel as if I do not. Regards Alan _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 5 13:22:22 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:22:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Paypal disputes In-Reply-To: <20081105120003.898037D142E@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081105120003.898037D142E@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Both Paypal and eBay area jokes in poor taste when it comes to getting compensation as a small punter having lost out because of non payment from a customer, or receiving a duff product from a supplier. Basically, they don't care. I started a class action suit in California against eBay because of the huge number of fraudulent auctions they were permitting because of non existent security checks on sellers - I wrote a program that discovered these according to a set of criteria I set.. for example, any item being sold by a supplier where the item category was different from those previously sold by that seller and where the number of items being sold exceeded, say, 5. It wasn't based on rocket science: I figured any seller suddenly starting to list multiple items like 10 Apple Cinema display listings, when previously the seller had only dealt with gingham dolls frocks probably meant the seller's ID had been stolen and the listings were the start of a fraud. I was catching up to 20,000 items an hour at some times! eBay never even responded to the lists I submitted other than by taking the position 'See you in court'. Paypal is subject to the same corporate culture. Their resolution process doesn't even start for 90 days after the fraud, at least that's how it used to be. I stopped depending on eBay and Paypal and always figured a transaction, if it went south, meant I would lose money, and I made my decisions to go ahead based on that assumption. So for example, when selling, I always figure into the cost the extra cost of insurance or requiring a signature.. anyone not willing to pay this, I don't sell to. I don't buy from a small supplier unless he/she insures or requires a signature and where there is recent favourable feedback, which I always check I always check the feedback for big suppliers and won't do biz with people with recent bad reports.. there's plenty to choose from, why run the risk? Where I can I avoid Paypal.. asking for the seller';s bank sort code and account number so I can do a direct payment from my bank for example. Most people are honest most of the time, but unfortunately, technology enables small time crooks to cream it off honest punters much more easily than by shoplifting fro example. eBay and Paypal make it quite easy for this to go on. It's 'caveat emptor' all the way. From valeriehardman at btinternet.com Wed Nov 5 17:33:52 2008 From: valeriehardman at btinternet.com (VALERIE HARDMAN) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:33:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] (no subject) Message-ID: <885847.47722.qm@web86508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi We have an unused (though opened) Belkin Tunebase FM for listening to an IPOD in a vehicle . I was going to put it on Freecycle but wondered if anyone from NMUG would find this a useful freebie. Valerie From michelehurst at mac.com Thu Nov 6 03:10:43 2008 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:10:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] poorly powerbook rejuvinated!! Message-ID: I just want to thank everyone who offered advice with my crashed powerbook (Paul Durrant and Simon Royal) but I particularly want to thank the wonderful Allan Johns whom I have never met yet spent around 2 hours last night on the phone helping me until we got (hopefully) the problem sorted out. I am sending this mail from my previously "dead " computer which makes me very happy, (probably why I am emailing at 3.00am!) Thanks so much again Michele Hurst michelehurst at mac.com From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Thu Nov 6 12:43:19 2008 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:43:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ic profiles Message-ID: <59f00b75133197c63dc13c24a3cf058a@virgin.net> Hi all Can anyone help with my monitor IC profiles. My pictures are printing out too light and with low contrast although they look OK on the screen. regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 6 18:56:34 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:56:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPlayer Mac Message-ID: Hi. I am having big problems with the BBC iPlayer for Mac. I'm using Leopard and Firefox/Safari. First time the page loaded, but wouldn't bring up the program I wanted. Now I cant even get on the iPlayer page. Any help? Is it down? Whats the Mac requirements for iPlayer? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 7 10:46:42 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Nov 2008 10:46:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPlayer Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David It is working again. Must have been a glitch. Watched a program last night and it was fine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 7 2008, David Tillyer wrote: I'm not having that issue but if I think Virgin restrict that site because whenever I go on there my Speed drops to around 6mbps but any other site loads at normal speed. I tried to watch Top Gear last night and After two hours of uit loading I only got 3 and half minutes of video. Can't understand it. David 2008/11/6 Simon Royal > Hi. > > I am having big problems with the BBC iPlayer for Mac. > > I'm using Leopard and Firefox/Safari. First time the page loaded, but > wouldn't bring up the program I wanted. > > Now I cant even get on the iPlayer page. > > Any help? Is it down? Whats the Mac requirements for iPlayer? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using > Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 7 11:37:39 2008 From: footballbutlerjoe at yahoo.co.uk (joe butler) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [NMUG] iPlayer Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <432994.96180.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I use my Thinkpad for such things. It would be nice to be 100% windows free but sometimes bullets have to be bit! Cheap and Free mobile phones http://www.nimrod.2u.co.uk ? Iphone and Ipod Insurance http://nimrod.2u.co.uk/insurance ? Get your own FREE mobile phones sales website http://nimrod.2uaffiliates.com/join/ ? ? ? ? --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Simon Royal wrote: From: Simon Royal Subject: Re: [NMUG] iPlayer Mac To: nmug at durrant.co.uk Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 10:46 AM David It is working again. Must have been a glitch. Watched a program last night and it was fine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 7 2008, David Tillyer wrote: I'm not having that issue but if I think Virgin restrict that site because whenever I go on there my Speed drops to around 6mbps but any other site loads at normal speed. I tried to watch Top Gear last night and After two hours of uit loading I only got 3 and half minutes of video. Can't understand it. David 2008/11/6 Simon Royal > Hi. > > I am having big problems with the BBC iPlayer for Mac. > > I'm using Leopard and Firefox/Safari. First time the page loaded, but > wouldn't bring up the program I wanted. > > Now I cant even get on the iPlayer page. > > Any help? Is it down? Whats the Mac requirements for iPlayer? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using > Nokia E71) > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 7 13:34:05 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:34:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin restrictions In-Reply-To: <20081107120002.E29387D26DC@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081107120002.E29387D26DC@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <0381381E-56AF-4ED9-BF23-287604586622@gmail.com> > > Mac. > > > On Nov 7 2008, David Tillyer wrote: > > I'm not having that issue but if I think Virgin restrict that site > because > whenever I go on there my Speed drops to around 6mbps but any other > site > loads at normal speed. I tried to watch Top Gear last night and > After two > hours of uit loading I only got 3 and half minutes of video. Can't > understand it. As I am constantly pointing out, Virgin apply traffic shaping and throttling to all downloads they perceive as a danger to their own revenue streams.. you want to download Virgin TV content.. no problem.. you want to get it from someone else, or download a torrent.. you are fu%%$D This is why I don't do business with Virgin. They sell you a service -broadband - then they tell you you can only use it to its max if you buy more stuff from them. Just cancel it, tell them to stick their cancellation fees where the sun don't shine and sign up with someone who doesn't pull that stuff. From band1 at mac.com Fri Nov 7 14:52:15 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:52:15 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] iPlayer Mac In-Reply-To: <58218614-1D75-4805-B60F-01930F5D5438@mac.com> References: <432994.96180.qm@web26706.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <58218614-1D75-4805-B60F-01930F5D5438@mac.com> Message-ID: > You can use iPlayer downloader here:- > > http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/28733/bbc-iplayer-downloader > > David From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 7 14:52:53 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:52:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin restrictions Message-ID: Stefan. We can all run down companies, but for me I miss Virgin. Their mobile service is great, their TV is great and their broadband is great. I miss them now I cant get them where I am. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: [NMUG] Virgin restrictions From: stefan youngs Date: 07/11/2008 13:34 > > Mac. > > > On Nov 7 2008, David Tillyer wrote: > > I'm not having that issue but if I think Virgin restrict that site > because > whenever I go on there my Speed drops to around 6mbps but any other > site > loads at normal speed. I tried to watch Top Gear last night and > After two > hours of uit loading I only got 3 and half minutes of video. Can't > understand it. As I am constantly pointing out, Virgin apply traffic shaping and throttling to all downloads they perceive as a danger to their own revenue streams.. you want to download Virgin TV content.. no problem.. you want to get it from someone else, or download a torrent.. you are fu%%$D This is why I don't do business with Virgin. They sell you a service -broadband - then they tell you you can only use it to its max if you buy more stuff from them. Just cancel it, tell them to stick their cancellation fees where the sun don't shine and sign up with someone who doesn't pull that stuff. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From robbiemurray at f2s.com Fri Nov 7 16:02:50 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:02:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: [Aamen] OFF TOPIC: Public service announcement from your List Keeper In-Reply-To: <1BAC5B15-C7F6-4A6D-B652-D9FCB88B716D@gmail.com> References: <000301c940e5$df383120$9da89360$@net> <1BAC5B15-C7F6-4A6D-B652-D9FCB88B716D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Seconded! Robbie Norwich, England Disciple since the Apple II in 1983 ... Not complacent, however - the bigger Apple's market share becomes, the higher the chance of being targetted, but in all the years I've used them, there has only ever been one worm, and within 10 hours a 14 year old in South America devised a fix ... On 7 Nov 2008, at 15:30, Dave Clark wrote: (Way off topic, and probably Outside Issue) GET A MAC!!! Have switched now to all-Mac since mid-2006 and have had no virus or other malware problems since. Life gets to be a real pleasure without all the hassles of Windoze. Just my 2-cents worth. Dave On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Joe Dennis wrote: > Joe here, 2008 List Keeper putting out a blurb regarding some recent > and > nasty virus alerts. > > Since Tuesday of this week, a couple of nasty Obama type viruses > have been > released per Snopes. For details on these and other viruses, please > refer > yourself to www.snopes.com or some other verification site such as > hoaxbusters. While I am not endorsing this website, it is one that > I use to > discern between "real" viruses and hoaxes. > > If your anti-virus software is up to date, it should capture and > quarantine > the pesky critters. > > As always, be wary of email attachments including those who come from > "known" people in your address book. My own personal policy is to > delete > ALL attachments automatically unless I receive an email from someone > I know > indicating they will be sending an attachment at which time I will > create an > exception for that one person, temporarily. > > Back to your regularly scheduled programming. > > In Service, > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > AAmen mailing list > AAmen at mailman.io.com > http://mailman.io.com/mailman/listinfo/aamen _______________________________________________ AAmen mailing list AAmen at mailman.io.com http://mailman.io.com/mailman/listinfo/aamen Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk Fri Nov 7 18:00:19 2008 From: anthonybrahams at themagic.me.uk (Anthony Brahams) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:00:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] USB dial-up modem Message-ID: <1DD7A3AF-3B46-446B-BD8C-C12A5B15A124@themagic.me.uk> Reporting that new Broadband (PlusNet) seems fine, and faster than BT. Very grateful to Alan Fry who kindly lent me an external modem and a cd plus instruction sheets for setting up with OS 10.5. During that time we did have about 12 power cuts in 10 days until they solved the problem permanently, I hope. Anthony From penguin.999 at virgin.net Fri Nov 7 18:14:41 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:14:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] USB dial-up modem In-Reply-To: <1DD7A3AF-3B46-446B-BD8C-C12A5B15A124@themagic.me.uk> References: <1DD7A3AF-3B46-446B-BD8C-C12A5B15A124@themagic.me.uk> Message-ID: <03EB3AAF-6B49-402E-8FA7-67E585342F3B@virgin.net> On Nov 7, 2008, at 18:00, Anthony Brahams wrote: > Reporting that new Broadband (PlusNet) seems fine, and faster than > BT. Very grateful to Alan Fry who kindly lent me an external modem > and a cd plus instruction sheets for setting up with OS 10.5. During > that time we did have about 12 power cuts in 10 days until they > solved the problem permanently, I hope. Glad to hear you are back with us and at a faster speed. Those power cuts sound like a bit of a nightmare, what was the problem? Paul From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 7 20:09:25 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:09:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] RAM For Sale Message-ID: Hi. I have some spare sticks of RAM if anyone is interested. 1x 512MB PC2700 DDR, TwinMOS. 1x 512MB Kingston DDR KTA-G5400. ?6 each inc postage to you. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 7 22:40:53 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 07 Nov 2008 22:40:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Intel iMac 10.4 Restore Discs Message-ID: Hi As my Intel iMac is no more, I have stripped it. I now have a set of install discs (grey ones) for 10.4 going spare. If anyone would like them, make me an offer. I have no need for them as I have gone back to a PowerPC Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From tomkershaw at mac.com Sat Nov 8 03:24:18 2008 From: tomkershaw at mac.com (Tom Kershaw) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:24:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Intel iMac 10.4 Restore Discs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49150662.3080500@mac.com> Simon, Did you ever find out what was wrong with the iMac? Tom. Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > As my Intel iMac is no more, I have stripped it. > I now have a set of install discs (grey ones) for 10.4 going spare. > > If anyone would like them, make me an offer. I have no need for them > as I have gone back to a PowerPC Mac. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac > User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought > an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From michelehurst at mac.com Sat Nov 8 09:27:18 2008 From: michelehurst at mac.com (Michele Hurst) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:27:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] rejuvenation of poorly power book Message-ID: <9943F4D5-4BF2-43E1-9254-0BD2C8A98050@mac.com> Hi I am sorry to say that apart from knowing that we booted from the installation disk I cannot really tell you exactly what we did but following Allan John's brilliant instructions over the phone we have done it! Also great tip for stuck disks given. I could not eject a cd to put my leopard disk in. Allan told me to hold escape whilst turning on and hold my laptop vertically so the slot pointed downwards. Worked perfectly!!!!! Thanks again everyone Michele Michele Hurst michelehurst at mac.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 8 18:45:14 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:45:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] eMac Geekbench Query Message-ID: Hi. I used Geekbench to benchmark my eMac yesterday. It is a 1.25Ghz with 512MB RAM running Leopard. Geekbench results were 703. I added another 512MB taking it to 1GB. After running Geekbench again it came up with 695. What gives? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Sat Nov 8 20:53:59 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:53:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] For sale Message-ID: Apple Powerbook G4 17" Processor: 1.66 Ghz PowerPC G4 Memory: 1GB DDR DVD Drive: Superdrive CD(-R/-RW) DVD(-R/-RW/+R/+RW) Harddisk: 80GB Bluetooth/Wifi/Ethernet/Firewire/USB ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 128MB (1440x900) Laptop booted Tiger - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Booted%20Tiger.jpg Panther install disk + Bundled Apps Boxed version of Tiger Tiger box - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Tiger.jpg DVI-VGA cable SVideo-RCA video Modem Cable Power Supply Original Box Box and cables and disks - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Box%20and%20cables.jpg Brenthoven Laptop Bag Removable part of case - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Inner%20part%20of%20case.jpg Whole of the case - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Outer%20case.jpg The laptop is in good condition, there is some corrosion in the area where your left hand sits and a small scratch on the right hand side. Other than that the laptop is in great condition. Keyboard and corrosion - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Showing%20the%20keyboard%20and%20corrosion.jpg Bottom of laptop - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Bottom%20of%20laptop.jpg Top of laptop - http://david.reynoldsfamily.org.uk/images/powerbook/Top%20of%20laptop.jpg I'd like around ?475 with postage included. (listed elsewhere) Thanks, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 8 21:31:16 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 08 Nov 2008 21:31:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Firefox Parental Controls Message-ID: Hi My two boys have an eMac G4 each. I have set them up a non-admin account and use the parental controls in Safari to allow them to access specific websites only (such as CBeebies, Nick Jnr etc...), but Safari isn't the best browser. Is there anything that will allow the same control in Firefox, I know it isn't built in like Safari, but is there a plugin? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 9 14:39:06 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:39:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] NMUG] eMac Geekbench Query In-Reply-To: <20081109120005.058057D37C0@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081109120005.058057D37C0@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <607E8D1F-4121-4B7E-95CE-44F723575374@gmail.com> > > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:45:14 +0000 > From: "Simon Royal" > Subject: [NMUG] eMac Geekbench Query > To: NMUG > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi. > > I used Geekbench to benchmark my eMac yesterday. It is a 1.25Ghz > with 512MB RAM running Leopard. Geekbench results were 703. > > I added another 512MB taking it to 1GB. After running Geekbench > again it came up with 695. > > What gives? Don't you need to take a series of readings then take the average? A single reading can often be misleading. My bet is there's no SIGNIFICANT statistical difference between 695 and 703.. which would bear out the case that more memory only speeds thing us if you are actually using the extra memory.. running a single app in 512 or 1GB probably won't change anything other than your wallet From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sun Nov 9 20:36:01 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:36:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer enquiry from a friend Message-ID: He has previously always used an Epson but as usual the heads have become blocked and he is fed up with running cleaning cycles. What is the general consensus of opinion on photo printers? For the odd photo would he be satisfied with a colour laser? From kelvinyoungs at mac.com Sun Nov 9 20:41:33 2008 From: kelvinyoungs at mac.com (Kelvin Youngs) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:41:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer enquiry from a friend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8BA81D89-C7F5-4C6F-9972-E667F1A14D91@mac.com> Why is he having this problem one should ask? I have always used Epson and never had a problem ? had my current one for 4 years now ? not a smidgen of a problem ? could it be the ink that he is using? Although I must admit I have never used original Epsom Inks - never even had to do a cleaning cycle either ? must be lucky I guess. Kelvin Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare. I think some people in togas are plotting against me. On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:36, Paul Harrowing wrote: > He has previously always used an Epson but as usual the heads have > become blocked and he is fed up with running cleaning cycles. > > What is the general consensus of opinion on photo printers? > > For the odd photo would he be satisfied with a colour laser? From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 9 20:53:25 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:53:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer enquiry from a friend Message-ID: Hi. I have an old Epson Stylus Photo 1200 (which I picked up from Steven). It still works a dream, was a little clogged when I first got it but it hadn't been used for a while. I only buy cheap inks, never had a problem. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Printer enquiry from a friend From: Kelvin Youngs Date: 09/11/2008 20:41 Why is he having this problem one should ask? I have always used Epson and never had a problem ? had my current one for 4 years now ? not a smidgen of a problem ? could it be the ink that he is using? Although I must admit I have never used original Epsom Inks - never even had to do a cleaning cycle either ? must be lucky I guess. Kelvin Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare. I think some people in togas are plotting against me. On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:36, Paul Harrowing wrote: > He has previously always used an Epson but as usual the heads have > become blocked and he is fed up with running cleaning cycles. > > What is the general consensus of opinion on photo printers? > > For the odd photo would he be satisfied with a colour laser? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 9 21:21:34 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:21:34 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Printer enquiry from a friend In-Reply-To: <8BA81D89-C7F5-4C6F-9972-E667F1A14D91@mac.com> References: <8BA81D89-C7F5-4C6F-9972-E667F1A14D91@mac.com> Message-ID: I think it all depends on frequency of use. If you're printing colour stuff every day, you probably won't have a problem. It's when you're only printing colour stuff once a week that you might run into clogged heads. A colour laser prints OK colour images. But for best home-print colour images, inkjet is the way to go. I'd recommend an HP or a Canon or a Lexmark - where the print head and cartridge are in one package. Paul On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:41, Kelvin Youngs wrote: > Why is he having this problem one should ask? > I have always used Epson and never had a problem ? had my current > one for 4 years now ? not a smidgen of a problem ? could it be the > ink that he is using? > Although I must admit I have never used original Epsom Inks - never > even had to do a cleaning cycle either ? must be lucky I guess. > > On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:36, Paul Harrowing wrote: > >> He has previously always used an Epson but as usual the heads have >> become blocked and he is fed up with running cleaning cycles. >> >> What is the general consensus of opinion on photo printers? >> >> For the odd photo would he be satisfied with a colour laser? From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Mon Nov 10 11:10:59 2008 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:10:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ic profiles Message-ID: <238a20264c8b02c21f01206abdb17934@virgin.net> Many thank to all that helped. I shall have to wait until I can get the Spyder 3 profiler ( Cheap). regards Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 10 14:03:23 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Nov 2008 14:03:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] InfraRed In OSX Message-ID: Hi This has been brought up before, but I can't remember the outcome. I have a PowerBook G3 'Pismo' with built in infrared, running Tiger. It would be handy to be able to use it to send and receive from my Nokia E71 mobile phone. I have a bluetooth USB to plug in, but sometimes it is plugged into my other Mac and as both devices have built in infrared, it would be handy to use. Yes it is slow and unreliable, but it is always there. Is there anyway of enabling it for file transfers in OSX? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 10 23:34:21 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Nov 2008 23:34:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 iMac RAM Message-ID: Hi Someone asked me the other day if I had RAM that would fit an iMac G5. I didn't at the time, but I have a KTA-G5400/512 which is PowerMac G5 and iMac G5 RAM (Ambient Light Sensor and iSight models). Contact me off-list if it was you. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 10 23:47:49 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 10 Nov 2008 23:47:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] DDR 3200 In eMac 1.25Ghz Message-ID: Hi Am I right in thinking DDR 3200 RAM will work in a machine that takes DDR 2700 as long as both are 184 pin sticks. I've been offered some 1GB sticks of DDR 3200. I know my eMac takes 2x1GB sticks. Is it just like PC133 and PC100 that it will just run at the slower speed? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From jeremyknight at mac.com Tue Nov 11 09:27:39 2008 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:27:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Banquo's ghost Message-ID: <926F80A0-D05A-4C3B-B071-CA42DEA43707@mac.com> Good Morning, perhaps someone can help please? IN a 4gb pen drive I have a file described as a "unix executable file" it has nothing in it and will not delete. Any suggestions please? jeremy From robbiemurray at f2s.com Tue Nov 11 11:09:39 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:09:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Banquo's ghost In-Reply-To: <926F80A0-D05A-4C3B-B071-CA42DEA43707@mac.com> References: <926F80A0-D05A-4C3B-B071-CA42DEA43707@mac.com> Message-ID: Copy off everything else and reformat the drive? Robbie On 11 Nov 2008, at 09:27, jeremy knight wrote: Good Morning, perhaps someone can help please? IN a 4gb pen drive I have a file described as a "unix executable file" it has nothing in it and will not delete. Any suggestions please? jeremy From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Tue Nov 11 11:24:29 2008 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:24:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OS Message-ID: Is 10.5.5 the latest OS version please? Ruth From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 11 12:30:02 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:30:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Latest OS In-Reply-To: <20081111120002.A9FF87D4A7D@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081111120002.A9FF87D4A7D@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <0542C8CF-6E84-4228-9630-2F78FAA7B6ED@gmail.com> > > From: Ruth Murray > Subject: [NMUG] OS > To: Norwich Mac User Group list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Is 10.5.5 the latest OS version please? > Click Software Update (Apple menu) to find out From email.news at mac.com Tue Nov 11 16:41:58 2008 From: email.news at mac.com (Andrew B) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:41:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Airtunes? Message-ID: <805609BD-ABAD-41B4-8C0A-43364CE3CEB5@mac.com> I have finally got my second Airport Express working, as it transpires although it cannot be used for Wifi Internet browsing it will stream iTunes to a remote set of speakers. I was wondering if there was any program that would let me divert online radio (BBC) to these remote speakers. Many thanks, AndrewB From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 12 10:30:41 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 12 Nov 2008 10:30:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Security Question... WPA/WPA2 Message-ID: Hi I have finally left the 802.11b market. All my Macs and phones now have 802.11g which means I don't have to stick with WEP for wireless security. As this is my first venture into WPA, I have a few questions. 1. Is it as simple to set up as WEP? 2. Do I just change my router and then reconfigure the devices? 3. How much more secure is it? 4. Do I go for WPA or WPA2? Not sure if my Nokia E71 supports WPA2 5. Is it any slower than Unsecured or WEP networks? Any further advice would be great. I am hoping to sort this out today. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From munkt0n at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 11:02:14 2008 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:02:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wireless Security Question... WPA/WPA2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WPA doesn't work on 802.11b? that's news to me.... 1. it's easier. typing in a password vs typing in 40 hex digits. 2. yes 3. lots (for now... someone's found a weakness in WPA and will be discussing it tomorrow! http://pacsec.jp/agenda.html ) 4. wpa should be fine for a home network 5. not noticeably On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have finally left the 802.11b market. All my Macs and phones now have > 802.11g which means I don't have to stick with WEP for wireless security. > > As this is my first venture into WPA, I have a few questions. > > 1. Is it as simple to set up as WEP? > 2. Do I just change my router and then reconfigure the devices? > 3. How much more secure is it? > 4. Do I go for WPA or WPA2? Not sure if my Nokia E71 supports WPA2 > 5. Is it any slower than Unsecured or WEP networks? > > Any further advice would be great. I am hoping to sort this out today. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac > User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an > Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From david at vanedwards.co.uk Wed Nov 12 11:36:06 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:36:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem Message-ID: Dear All, I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a computer which won't start and so can't ask for himself! He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred OS9 so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping noise and instead of starting it came up with a blank screen showing a blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication that the system can't find the start-up disc. He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install disc itself. Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 12 11:56:04 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:56:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sounds like you've tried all the obvious things - a flashing question mark, and not visible when booted from CD implies a hardware fault. It might be anything from a completely dead disk to a loose cable. I hope his back-ups are up to date. regards, Paul On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:36, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a computer > which won't start and so can't ask for himself! > > He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred OS9 > so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping noise and > instead of starting it came up with a blank screen showing a > blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication that the > system can't find the start-up disc. > > He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 > install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started > from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard > drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install disc > itself. > > Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? > From david at vanedwards.co.uk Wed Nov 12 12:13:52 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:13:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Paul, I feared as much! We'll try waggling the connector strip to the hard rdive but I fear it's replacement job and some loss of data as he has only partial back-up. Best wishes, David At 11:56 +0000 12/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >It sounds like you've tried all the obvious things - a flashing >question mark, and not visible when booted from CD implies a >hardware fault. It might be anything from a completely dead disk to >a loose cable. I hope his back-ups are up to date. > >regards, > >Paul > >On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:36, David Van Edwards wrote: > >>Dear All, >> >>I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a computer >>which won't start and so can't ask for himself! >> >>He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred >>OS9 so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping >>noise and instead of starting it came up with a blank screen >>showing a blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication >>that the system can't find the start-up disc. >> >>He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 >>install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started >>from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard >>drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install disc >>itself. >> >>Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? >> >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From robbiemurray at f2s.com Wed Nov 12 17:43:20 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:43:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Network Problems - ongoing Message-ID: <8B97BA2A-4BD7-4E98-A95F-6BB01F5C93FF@f2s.com> I've been having problems with my ADSL all day, and have now been told by my ISP that there are known issues with the national network affecting selected exchanges, one if which is Norwich Central, so if anyone else is suffering, you can save that expensive 0870 call, as this explains the problem: it's not ISP specific: it's the backbone. My speed is currently 294 as opposed to my usual 4400, and the connection it has dropped completely several times. The good news is that once they've had their tea and 40 winks, BT are jumping into action, and we can expect a fix 'hopefully within 24 hours' ....... Robbie From paul at durrant.co.uk Thu Nov 13 09:22:05 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:22:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Network Problems - ongoing In-Reply-To: <8B97BA2A-4BD7-4E98-A95F-6BB01F5C93FF@f2s.com> References: <8B97BA2A-4BD7-4E98-A95F-6BB01F5C93FF@f2s.com> Message-ID: <6AAF9D67-6CDF-4CA4-AED5-05D6AC650AE6@durrant.co.uk> Well, My ADSL dropped out around 9pm last night, and has only just come back up. And now I have to shut down for building works. The server should be up this afternoon. Paul From penguin.999 at virgin.net Wed Nov 12 21:53:42 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:53:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] For those wondering about buying an iPhone In-Reply-To: <8B97BA2A-4BD7-4E98-A95F-6BB01F5C93FF@f2s.com> References: <8B97BA2A-4BD7-4E98-A95F-6BB01F5C93FF@f2s.com> Message-ID: <759385CE-33C0-4763-970E-1D5C2685E4C5@virgin.net> Seems that they are less prone to breakdown which is good news. Paul C From ian at igdesign.co.uk Wed Nov 12 23:21:03 2008 From: ian at igdesign.co.uk (Ian Garrett) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:21:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Opening Numbers and Pages Message-ID: Hi All, Does anyone know how to stop Numbers and/or Pages from opening a new document when launched? I can't find anything in the Preferences, nor in the User Guides. Regards, Ian From david at vanedwards.co.uk Wed Nov 12 22:39:54 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:39:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem Message-ID: Strange outcomes. I've installed the old hard drive in a separate Firewire enclosure and it certainly doesn't work even though it spins up. So clearly this hard drive IS dead. But the G3 iMac dosn't work with either of my spare hard drives which I've tested subsequently and found to be working even though it booted successfully from both the install discs and the DiskWarrior disk and the Hardware Repair disc which even ran a test and found no fault. Any suggestions for getting the computer to boot up with a new working hard drive? Peter would be very grateful for any ideas. Best wishes, David At 11:56 +0000 12/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >It sounds like you've tried all the obvious things - a flashing >question mark, and not visible when booted from CD implies a >hardware fault. It might be anything from a completely dead disk to >a loose cable. I hope his back-ups are up to date. > >regards, > >Paul > >On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:36, David Van Edwards wrote: > >>Dear All, >> >>I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a computer >>which won't start and so can't ask for himself! >> >>He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred >>OS9 so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping >>noise and instead of starting it came up with a blank screen >>showing a blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication >>that the system can't find the start-up disc. >> >>He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 >>install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started >>from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard >>drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install disc >>itself. >> >>Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? >> -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 13 18:32:16 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:32:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem Message-ID: Dear Paul, Allan and Robbie, Thank you all for your generous help! The problem is now solved. For future reference for anyone searching the thread in future: The original HD was dead as dead can be but when we put in my old HDs with a working OSX on they were not recognised as being present, even when we held the alt key down to force the computer to look for HDs to start from. This was also true when they were tried in turn in an external Firewire enclosure. However the computer would start up properly from an install disc and passed all its tests on a Mac hardware repair disc. Then I thought of running DiscWarrior on the "new" HDs to see if it could "see" that they were present. Sure enough it saw them fine. So then we ran the install disc, it too could see them, so we simply made a clean install on one of the HDs and everything now works! Moral of the story is that an HD with a working OS from another model of Mac won't even be "seen" by a different model, but doing an install from the discs for the iMac meant that the HD became visible again. As far as I remember the OSX on my spare HDs came from a generic over-the-counter version bought from John Lewis but even that was not recognised by the iMac. Had we just bought a new HD straightaway we would have saved ourselves about 6 hours of trial and error and one of the two trips into Norwich from Aylmerton! We do now know how to take an iMac apart though. Best wishes, David At 12:03 +0000 13/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >I think the old G3s had some strange disk size requirements. The >main one was that if the disk was bigger than 8GB, the disk must be >partitioned with a <8GB first partition, and the OS installed in >that partition. > >regards, > >Paul > >On 12 Nov 2008, at 22:39, David Van Edwards wrote: > >>Strange outcomes. >> >>I've installed the old hard drive in a separate Firewire enclosure >>and it certainly doesn't work even though it spins up. So clearly >>this hard drive IS dead. >> >>But the G3 iMac dosn't work with either of my spare hard drives >>which I've tested subsequently and found to be working even though >>it booted successfully from both the install discs and the >>DiskWarrior disk and the Hardware Repair disc which even ran a test >>and found no fault. >> >>Any suggestions for getting the computer to boot up with a new >>working hard drive? >> >>Peter would be very grateful for any ideas. >> >>Best wishes, >> >>David >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 11:56 +0000 12/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >>>It sounds like you've tried all the obvious things - a flashing >>>question mark, and not visible when booted from CD implies a >>>hardware fault. It might be anything from a completely dead disk >>>to a loose cable. I hope his back-ups are up to date. >>> >>>regards, >>> >>>Paul >>> >>>On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:36, David Van Edwards wrote: >>> >>>>Dear All, >>>> >>>>I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a >>>>computer which won't start and so can't ask for himself! >>>> >>>>He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred >>>>OS9 so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping >>>>noise and instead of starting it came up with a blank screen >>>>showing a blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication >>>>that the system can't find the start-up disc. >>>> >>>>He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 >>>>install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started >>>>from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard >>>>drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install >>>>disc itself. >>>> >>>>Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? >>>> >> >> >> >>-- >>The Smokehouse, >>6 Whitwell Road, >>Norwich, NR1 4HB England. >> >>Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >>Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 13 19:24:46 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:24:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Start=up problem Message-ID: David I have used a hard drive with Tiger installed on about 10 different machines. It was a laptop hard drive and with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter I used it to boot a G3 tower. I usually then just clone the drive to another internal drive and hey presto quick way to get OSX on a machine. So, in my experience swapping hard drives does work. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] Start=up problem From: David Van Edwards Date: 13/11/2008 18:32 Dear Paul, Allan and Robbie, Thank you all for your generous help! The problem is now solved. For future reference for anyone searching the thread in future: The original HD was dead as dead can be but when we put in my old HDs with a working OSX on they were not recognised as being present, even when we held the alt key down to force the computer to look for HDs to start from. This was also true when they were tried in turn in an external Firewire enclosure. However the computer would start up properly from an install disc and passed all its tests on a Mac hardware repair disc. Then I thought of running DiscWarrior on the "new" HDs to see if it could "see" that they were present. Sure enough it saw them fine. So then we ran the install disc, it too could see them, so we simply made a clean install on one of the HDs and everything now works! Moral of the story is that an HD with a working OS from another model of Mac won't even be "seen" by a different model, but doing an install from the discs for the iMac meant that the HD became visible again. As far as I remember the OSX on my spare HDs came from a generic over-the-counter version bought from John Lewis but even that was not recognised by the iMac. Had we just bought a new HD straightaway we would have saved ourselves about 6 hours of trial and error and one of the two trips into Norwich from Aylmerton! We do now know how to take an iMac apart though. Best wishes, David At 12:03 +0000 13/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >I think the old G3s had some strange disk size requirements. The >main one was that if the disk was bigger than 8GB, the disk must be >partitioned with a <8GB first partition, and the OS installed in >that partition. > >regards, > >Paul > >On 12 Nov 2008, at 22:39, David Van Edwards wrote: > >>Strange outcomes. >> >>I've installed the old hard drive in a separate Firewire enclosure >>and it certainly doesn't work even though it spins up. So clearly >>this hard drive IS dead. >> >>But the G3 iMac dosn't work with either of my spare hard drives >>which I've tested subsequently and found to be working even though >>it booted successfully from both the install discs and the >>DiskWarrior disk and the Hardware Repair disc which even ran a test >>and found no fault. >> >>Any suggestions for getting the computer to boot up with a new >>working hard drive? >> >>Peter would be very grateful for any ideas. >> >>Best wishes, >> >>David >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 11:56 +0000 12/11/08, Paul Durrant wrote: >>>It sounds like you've tried all the obvious things - a flashing >>>question mark, and not visible when booted from CD implies a >>>hardware fault. It might be anything from a completely dead disk >>>to a loose cable. I hope his back-ups are up to date. >>> >>>regards, >>> >>>Paul >>> >>>On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:36, David Van Edwards wrote: >>> >>>>Dear All, >>>> >>>>I'm asking this on behalf of Peter Forrester who now has a >>>>computer which won't start and so can't ask for himself! >>>> >>>>He's using a slot loading iMac which he had OSX on but preferred >>>>OS9 so he went back to that. Today the computer made a rasping >>>>noise and instead of starting it came up with a blank screen >>>>showing a blinking ? mark symbol which I take to be an indication >>>>that the system can't find the start-up disc. >>>> >>>>He phoned me and we ran through trying to start using the OS9 >>>>install disc to run the disc repair system. The computer started >>>>from the disc but the Disc first Aid couldn't find the main hard >>>>drive to repair, it didn't show in the window just the install >>>>disc itself. >>>> >>>>Any advice? Is it a trip to the vet, or can we try anything else? >>>> >> >> >> >>-- >>The Smokehouse, >>6 Whitwell Road, >>Norwich, NR1 4HB England. >> >>Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >>Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 14 10:46:56 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (mail at simonroyal.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:46:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick Message-ID: Hi all. I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 14 11:11:11 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (mail at simonroyal.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:11:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Name On Emails Message-ID: Hi. I am using a new email client on my phone. When I send one to this group or others and it appears in my inbox, it shows me email address rather than my name. Is everyone else seeing the same. It never used to happen using to old client or using my Mac. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta From steve.forst at virgin.net Fri Nov 14 11:25:57 2008 From: steve.forst at virgin.net (Steve Forster) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:25:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 7 day shop has a good selection of branded and non branded ones, great prices. I?ve been using a tiny 2GB Dane-Elrc one for 2 or 3 years now with no prob?s and good speed (now about ?6) and bought an 8GB from them in August for about ?15 which is now ?9.99. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=6070&man=0&filterword s=&go=SEARCH&comp= Steve F From: Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:46:56 +0000 To: NMUG Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick Hi all. I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From steve.forst at virgin.net Fri Nov 14 11:26:51 2008 From: steve.forst at virgin.net (Steve Forster) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:26:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Name On Emails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seeing your name as below. -- Steve Forster 1 harford st norwich nr1 3ay 01603 661459 07939 221192 From: Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:11:11 +0000 To: NMUG Subject: [NMUG] Name On Emails Hi. I am using a new email client on my phone. When I send one to this group or others and it appears in my inbox, it shows me email address rather than my name. Is everyone else seeing the same. It never used to happen using to old client or using my Mac. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From rob at atvetsystems.com Fri Nov 14 11:25:35 2008 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:25:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29A8820F-A8AA-40C8-BA26-F6F6965CAAA4@atvetsystems.com> Tesco (Bury St. Edmunds) had some 2GB sticks for ?7.99 and 4GB for ?9.99 at one point but they rarely have any in stock these days. I bought a 2GB version which has been okay (so far). Regards, Rob. On 14 Nov 2008, at 10:46, mail at simonroyal.co.uk wrote: > Hi all. > > I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. > > My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I > bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. > > I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for > about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. > > I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. > > Simon From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Fri Nov 14 11:47:42 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:47:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Name On Emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <612FBF35-B2B8-4B53-A150-9C3AECCE4E1C@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> On 14 Nov 2008, at 11:11, mail at simonroyal.co.uk wrote: > Hi. > > I am using a new email client on my phone. When I send one to this > group or others and it appears in my inbox, it shows me email > address rather than my name. > > Is everyone else seeing the same. It never used to happen using to > old client or using my Mac. Yep, it shows your email address - which is your name ;) -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 14 11:49:42 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (mail at simonroyal.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:49:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick Message-ID: Hmmm My nerdiness just kicked in. An 8GB USB flash would also mean I could restore my Leopard DVD to it and use it to boot Intel Macs for installing and running Disk Utility on the boot drive. Interesting. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta -----Original Message----- From: Steve Forster Sent: 14/11/2008 11:25:57 To: nmug at durrant.co.uk Subject: Re: [NMUG] New Memory Stick 7 day shop has a good selection of branded and non branded ones, great prices. I?ve been using a tiny 2GB Dane-Elrc one for 2 or 3 years now with no prob?s and good speed (now about ?6) and bought an 8GB from them in August for about ?15 which is now ?9.99. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=6070&man=0&filterword s=&go=SEARCH&comp= Steve F From: Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:46:56 +0000 To: NMUG Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick Hi all. I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. Simon --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 14 11:54:13 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:54:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97B98C3E-4BDA-4476-AF3E-16B928FB11B9@durrant.co.uk> I've been very pleased with a Lexar 4GB stick, but I've forgotten where I got it. I was also pleased with a 1GB Datasafe Gini I got from svp (the physically smallest memory card I've every come across). http://svp.co.uk/product/datasafe_gini_usb20_1gb_flash_drive_datasaf098 regards, Paul On 14 Nov 2008, at 10:46, mail at simonroyal.co.uk wrote: > Hi all. > > I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. > > My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I > bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. > > I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for > about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. > > I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. From ed at mendelsohn.me.uk Fri Nov 14 11:55:52 2008 From: ed at mendelsohn.me.uk (Ed & Phyll Mendelsohn) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:55:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Memory Stick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CEEBA96-E58E-4DA2-8D44-BA22404053BD@mendelsohn.me.uk> There are numerous mail order companies that are reasonable - Try 7dayshop.com, MX2.co.uk, Amazon, or Memorybits.co.uk to name but a few. They all supply various makes, no idea which are the best. We have had a Samsung for a long time and this has not given any trouble. Hope this helps? Ed and Phyll On 14 Nov 2008, at 10:46, mail at simonroyal.co.uk wrote: > Hi all. > > I need a new USB memory stick. And would like some recomendations. > > My cheapy 1GB which I have had for a couple of years has died, I > bought a Sony 512MB which turned out to be a fake. > > I am currently using my trusty Iomega Mini which I have had for > about 8 years and is still going strong, but it is only 128MB. > > I want a reliable stick to replace the Iomega. > > Simon > > > --- Sent from my Nokia E71 using Nokia Email Beta > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From dvg at f2s.com Fri Nov 14 12:11:35 2008 From: dvg at f2s.com (David Gregory) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:11:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Canon Pixma iP4000 Message-ID: <111DFA23-46A2-42A8-BC0E-EA010E6E21C9@f2s.com> Mundane stuff, but my printer (three years very light use) leaves roller marks on one edge of everything it prints in A4 I've tried to clean the offending rollers but they are under the parked print heads. Is there a way of getting in and giving everything a good clean-up? David Gregory dvg at f2s.com From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Fri Nov 14 18:57:51 2008 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:57:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem Message-ID: HI Would anyone know whether or not eMacs are supposed to work with USB modems? Can't get my friends new one set up with her Talktalk SpeedTouch USB modem, despite loading the installation disc! Ruth Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 14 20:08:26 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:08:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83CDA84D-6700-42A9-AC30-E81797424890@durrant.co.uk> While some USB ADSL modems claim to come with Mac software, I've never heard of anyone having a good experience with them. It's much better to get an ADSL modem that uses ethernet to connect to the Mac. Paul On 14 Nov 2008, at 18:57, Ruth Murray wrote: > > Would anyone know whether or not eMacs are supposed to work with USB > modems? > > Can't get my friends new one set up with her Talktalk SpeedTouch USB > modem, despite loading the installation disc! > From robbiemurray at f2s.com Fri Nov 14 20:32:12 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:32:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8345DD12-D4CA-4B85-88EC-8ECD706791A5@f2s.com> Sorry to be doomy Ruth, but I've never met anyone with a USB modem - PC or Mac - that wasn't, in the Messiah's words, 'a bag of hurt' . I do, however, have a never used TalkTalk ethernet modem which you're most welcome to have if it helps - got to be the best solution! Just holler .. you know where I am! Robbie On 14 Nov 2008, at 18:57, Ruth Murray wrote: HI Would anyone know whether or not eMacs are supposed to work with USB modems? Can't get my friends new one set up with her Talktalk SpeedTouch USB modem, despite loading the installation disc! Ruth Ruth Murray ruth at ruthmurray.f2s.com Ruth Murray Graphic Design and Illustration 01603 632334 Web portfolio at www.ruthmurray.net _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 14 21:08:45 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:08:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem Message-ID: Paul When I first got my Virgin ADSL broadband many years ago, before wireless was the in thing, I got a Speedtouch 330 USB modem and it worked fine on my Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] usb modem From: Paul Durrant Date: 14/11/2008 20:08 While some USB ADSL modems claim to come with Mac software, I've never heard of anyone having a good experience with them. It's much better to get an ADSL modem that uses ethernet to connect to the Mac. Paul On 14 Nov 2008, at 18:57, Ruth Murray wrote: > > Would anyone know whether or not eMacs are supposed to work with USB > modems? > > Can't get my friends new one set up with her Talktalk SpeedTouch USB > modem, despite loading the installation disc! > _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 14 21:17:54 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:17:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58D035FF-C860-4CB6-AF11-3E8FE88C2ABE@durrant.co.uk> OK, Now I've heard of one person who's had a good experience with a USB ADSL modem :-) Paul On 14 Nov 2008, at 21:08, Simon Royal wrote: > > When I first got my Virgin ADSL broadband many years ago, before > wireless was the in thing, I got a Speedtouch 330 USB modem and it > worked fine on my Mac. > > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [NMUG] usb modem > From: Paul Durrant > Date: 14/11/2008 20:08 > > While some USB ADSL modems claim to come with Mac software, I've never > heard of anyone having a good experience with them. It's much better > to get an ADSL modem that uses ethernet to connect to the Mac. > > On 14 Nov 2008, at 18:57, Ruth Murray wrote: >> >> Would anyone know whether or not eMacs are supposed to work with USB >> modems? >> >> Can't get my friends new one set up with her Talktalk SpeedTouch USB >> modem, despite loading the installation disc! >> From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Sat Nov 15 11:44:27 2008 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:44:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] usb modem Message-ID: <667F6558-3442-475C-A5A6-E4E6328CA820@ruthmurray.f2s.com> HI folks I know the eMac isn't faulty because it is happily sat here using my asdl broadband. The talktalk modem I have acquired is also asdl so I have high hopes when I take the eMac over to my friends house later on for Round 2. Cheers folks. Fluffy fondness to you all! Ruth From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Sat Nov 15 12:08:21 2008 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:08:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] BBC iPlayer Message-ID: <84BBA78D-65D9-42B3-A16A-FA79BF692766@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Hello Reading through the Terms and Conditions for BBC iPlayer I still cant work out whether you need to have a TV licence in order to view it or listen to it! Any ideas? Ruth From rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com Sat Nov 15 15:12:43 2008 From: rm at ruthmurray.f2s.com (Ruth Murray) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:12:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Kit for sale Message-ID: <5F2AA956-B3F8-4745-96DD-F6F805E2A9A0@ruthmurray.f2s.com> For Sale BenQ flat screen monitor - VGA or DVI connectors available - good condition. ?95 Powermac G4 AGP 450mzh tower - open to offers. Ruth From paul at durrant.co.uk Sat Nov 15 15:36:53 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:36:53 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: <84BBA78D-65D9-42B3-A16A-FA79BF692766@ruthmurray.f2s.com> References: <84BBA78D-65D9-42B3-A16A-FA79BF692766@ruthmurray.f2s.com> Message-ID: <56936326-655A-485C-A950-272102F49F34@durrant.co.uk> No, you don't need a TV licence to use BBC iPlayer. From the horse's mouth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/01/iplayer_does_not_require_a_tv_1.html The reason being that the BBC iPlayer doesn't do streaming of live TV broadcasts, only on-demand streaming of recorded programs, and live streaming of radio programmes. If they ever change this to allow watching (say) BBC1 streamed live, then a TV licence would become necessary. regards, Paul On 15 Nov 2008, at 12:08, Ruth Murray wrote: > > Reading through the Terms and Conditions for BBC iPlayer I still > cant work out whether you need to have a TV licence in order to view > it or listen to it! > > Any ideas? From robbiemurray at f2s.com Sat Nov 15 15:41:18 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:41:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] BBC iPlayer In-Reply-To: <56936326-655A-485C-A950-272102F49F34@durrant.co.uk> References: <84BBA78D-65D9-42B3-A16A-FA79BF692766@ruthmurray.f2s.com> <56936326-655A-485C-A950-272102F49F34@durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: But how would they catch you? On 15 Nov 2008, at 15:36, Paul Durrant wrote: No, you don't need a TV licence to use BBC iPlayer. From the horse's mouth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/01/iplayer_does_not_require_a_tv_1.html The reason being that the BBC iPlayer doesn't do streaming of live TV broadcasts, only on-demand streaming of recorded programs, and live streaming of radio programmes. If they ever change this to allow watching (say) BBC1 streamed live, then a TV licence would become necessary. regards, Paul On 15 Nov 2008, at 12:08, Ruth Murray wrote: > > Reading through the Terms and Conditions for BBC iPlayer I still > cant work out whether you need to have a TV licence in order to view > it or listen to it! > > Any ideas? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 15 19:45:36 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Nov 2008 19:45:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Forgetting Wireless Message-ID: Hi I recently updated my wireless settings on my router. I changed the SSID, moved from WEP to WPA and set it to hidden SSID. I have four Macs and a phone connected wirelessly. 2x eMacs running Tiger, an eMac running Leopard and a PowerBook G3 running Tiger, and obviously my Symbian mobile phone. None of the other Macs have a problem, but my eMac running Leopard never remembers the network. When you switch it on, you have to rejoin, yet all the other Macs remember and it is active straight away. I am running 10.5.5 with the latest updates added. Any ideas? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 15 19:58:46 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Nov 2008 19:58:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Screens Message-ID: Hi I have been offered a PowerBook G4 with a broken screen. It needs a new one. It is an 867Mhz Titanium 15" model. I know the 400, 500, 550 and 667 models were VGA, but then they moved to 667, 800 and 867Mhz DVI models after that. So firstly will any 15" Titanium screen fit it or does it need to be a DVI model and secondly does anyone happen to have one. Screen needs to be working, but scratches etc... are purely cosmetic to me and not that important. Simon PS. I need a keyboard too if anyone has one kicking around. --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 15 22:41:35 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Nov 2008 22:41:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? Message-ID: Hi Over the past year I have become increasingly less interested in computers. Not necessarily using them but more the tinkering of them. I have lost my retro side, moving all my machines to faster Macs (except my PowerBook G3) that just work rather than having to be tweaked, hacked or upgraded. My new eMacs for example, I slapped some extra RAM, added Airport Extreme cards and installed an OS on them and that's it. I picked up a bigger hard drive and DVD burner today, but didn't feel the need to rip open my eMac the minute I got home and install them. I don't go on hunts for nightly builds or get excited about alpha versions. I haven't even thought about Linux in months. Looks like I am turning into a normal computer user. Well it has taken nearly 15 years of hardcore computing, but now I just can't bothered. I've gotten that relaxed that I even have a Windows laptop sitting in my living room, (although I do keep scowling at it) something I would never have entertained a few months ago. Hopefully it is a short term thing, or maybe I will go the whole hog and start socialising and playing golf. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Sat Nov 15 22:45:51 2008 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:45:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dangerous territory there..... Think Golf Clubs might be worse, after all do you want to spend your free time chasing one little ball? Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 15 Nov 2008, at 22:41, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Over the past year I have become increasingly less interested in > computers. Not necessarily using them but more the tinkering of them. > > I have lost my retro side, moving all my machines to faster Macs > (except my PowerBook G3) that just work rather than having to be > tweaked, hacked or upgraded. My new eMacs for example, I slapped > some extra RAM, added Airport Extreme cards and installed an OS on > them and that's it. > > I picked up a bigger hard drive and DVD burner today, but didn't > feel the need to rip open my eMac the minute I got home and install > them. > > I don't go on hunts for nightly builds or get excited about alpha > versions. I haven't even thought about Linux in months. > > Looks like I am turning into a normal computer user. Well it has > taken nearly 15 years of hardcore computing, but now I just can't > bothered. I've gotten that relaxed that I even have a Windows laptop > sitting in my living room, (although I do keep scowling at it) > something I would never have entertained a few months ago. > > Hopefully it is a short term thing, or maybe I will go the whole hog > and start socialising and playing golf. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sat Nov 15 22:49:33 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:49:33 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? Message-ID: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> It's getting bored WITH computers, not of computers. Does no one speak English anymore. PAH From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 15 22:51:23 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Nov 2008 22:51:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Paul I put 'of' because it is an object. 'With' gives it personification. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 15 2008, Paul Harrowing wrote: It's getting bored WITH computers, not of computers. Does no one speak English anymore. PAH _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sat Nov 15 22:54:57 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:54:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> No, you get bored with something. You only get bored of something if you are less than 20 year old and a chav. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 15 22:57:54 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 15 Nov 2008 22:57:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Paul As I am neither and a trained journalist I should have known better. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 15 2008, Paul Harrowing wrote: No, you get bored with something. You only get bored of something if you are less than 20 year old and a chav. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From band1 at mac.com Sat Nov 15 23:00:17 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:00:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <197F74DC-997F-427C-A398-7D702AC91016@mac.com> I wouldn't dream of saying I was bored of Simon only bored with in the same way as I would not used and Americanisation like 'gotten'. David On 15 Nov 2008, at 22:54, Paul Harrowing wrote: > No, you get bored with something. > > You only get bored of something if you are less than 20 year old and > a chav. > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sat Nov 15 23:04:46 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:04:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> Message-ID: <5BDA8AB1-3BDC-4CCF-B046-FC5F8AF2A242@waitrose.com> I work for a newspaper, and in fact you use of English is quite correct, judging by the standard of our journalists. From allan at dsol.co.uk Sat Nov 15 23:06:04 2008 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:06:04 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <197F74DC-997F-427C-A398-7D702AC91016@mac.com> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> <197F74DC-997F-427C-A398-7D702AC91016@mac.com> Message-ID: <49505BB4-CCFC-4571-992B-58EADC27D888@dsol.co.uk> On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:00, David King wrote: > in the same way as I would not used and Americanisation like > 'gotten'. > ????? From band1 at mac.com Sat Nov 15 23:08:00 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:08:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <49505BB4-CCFC-4571-992B-58EADC27D888@dsol.co.uk> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> <197F74DC-997F-427C-A398-7D702AC91016@mac.com> <49505BB4-CCFC-4571-992B-58EADC27D888@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: See earlier postings. D On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:06, Allan wrote: > > On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:00, David King wrote: > >> in the same way as I would not used and Americanisation like >> 'gotten'. >> > > ????? > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sat Nov 15 23:11:36 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:11:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Getting Bored Of Computers? In-Reply-To: <49505BB4-CCFC-4571-992B-58EADC27D888@dsol.co.uk> References: <6F68B818-AE44-443E-8A38-B4CAD05D8438@waitrose.com> <444364D6-92B0-4F1C-962C-D0957AB73D8A@waitrose.com> <197F74DC-997F-427C-A398-7D702AC91016@mac.com> <49505BB4-CCFC-4571-992B-58EADC27D888@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: <65B2D919-BE72-46BD-9D35-E7C5162EE3F4@waitrose.com> I think (hope) he was being ironic. But I knew what he meant anyway. Just too many "d"s in the sentence. On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:06, Allan wrote: On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:00, David King wrote: > in the same way as I would not used and Americanisation like 'gotten'. > ????? _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From bigsky at macunlimited.net Sun Nov 16 00:27:37 2008 From: bigsky at macunlimited.net (howard howard) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:27:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] new website Message-ID: For anyone intereted in seeing what I do, or commenting on the work rather than the site itself. Here it is. Thank you www.howardjshaw.co.uk From paul at durrant.co.uk Sun Nov 16 09:24:46 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:24:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] new website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What an interesting job! And I recognise a surprising proportion of your samples. Do you elaborate on outlines from an existing font, or do you work from scratch? And do you work purely on computer, or do you sketch out ideas first on paper? regards, Paul On 16 Nov 2008, at 00:27, howard howard wrote: > www.howardjshaw.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 13:11:37 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 13:11:37 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Self Assigned Airport Extreme Message-ID: Hi One on my eMacs is playing up this morning. I have 5 machines connected wirelessly and, 3 of which are turned on. My eMac is working fine, my PowerBook is working fine, even my phone is working fine, but the other eMac just keeps getting a self-assigned IP address. I have turned Airport off and on again a number of times, but no change. I have restarted the Mac, but no change. It was working fine yesterday and I have changed nothing. I have another eMac sitting in the same room (both of which are only 10 foot away from the router), which I just turned on and this connects no problem. I have turned it off again. Any ideas. Would turning the router off and on again help? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 15:10:54 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 15:10:54 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Self Assigned Airport Extreme In-Reply-To: <86946494-B794-45FB-ADBC-61680803D506@zen.co.uk> References: <86946494-B794-45FB-ADBC-61680803D506@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: Steven I tried that too, but it still kept self-assigning. In the end I rebooted the router and it fixed it. Stupid computers. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 16 2008, Steven Jefferson wrote: Tried setting DCHP manually then resetting to auto again? Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 16 Nov 2008, at 13:11, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > One on my eMacs is playing up this morning. I have 5 machines > connected wirelessly and, 3 of which are turned on. My eMac is > working fine, my PowerBook is working fine, even my phone is working > fine, but the other eMac just keeps getting a self-assigned IP > address. > > I have turned Airport off and on again a number of times, but no > change. I have restarted the Mac, but no change. It was working fine > yesterday and I have changed nothing. > > I have another eMac sitting in the same room (both of which are only > 10 foot away from the router), which I just turned on and this > connects no problem. I have turned it off again. > > Any ideas. Would turning the router off and on again help? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From potter.tj at virgin.net Sun Nov 16 17:03:46 2008 From: potter.tj at virgin.net (Trevor Potter) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:03:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Actually using BBC iPlayer. Message-ID: Dear All at NMUG I've seen a bit about BBC iPlayer commented on and I am wondering then are there Mac users actually able to sucessfully use iPlayer. If there are, what am I doing wrong on my Mac book pro? I am able to listen to missed Radio programmes but not watch TV shows very well. Looking on the iPlayer small print it says I need to have a particular flash player which I down loaded but the Mac fails to keep it. To watch a TV show I need to go through the install procedure before putting up iPlayer and selecting a programme. The next snag is that it cuts off the end of a programme. i.e. a 60 minute programme runs for 55 minutes and refuses to play anymore!? So far I've missed Top Gear and Family at War which is a bit annoying. Any tips will be gratefully received. I do wonder if wi-fi has a bearing on this? Regards Trevor Potter From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Sun Nov 16 18:30:45 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ch 5 TV Message-ID: <02234659-9A7B-49A9-A95F-A18385A79639@waitrose.com> Earlier today I was trying to look at a programme from earlier in the week and it kept saying I didn't have the correct pluggin so I downloaded the pluggin it said I needed and it still didn't work. Is this because I'm using a Mac. Incidently, I see Stephen Fry is having a chat to Jon Ive in TV later tonight. PAH From robbiemurray at f2s.com Sun Nov 16 19:22:21 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:22:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Actually using BBC iPlayer. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66DEC240-B13B-4745-81D4-F92FE390B9D5@f2s.com> Can't recall what the procedure was, but I have no problem with it - works fine. 1) Remember that nowadays much software is downloaded as a .dmg file which should decompress and present a virtual disk on the desktop, which can be used to run the software, but the programme needs to be copied/installed on the HD to become permanent, as this will disappear when the machine shuts down, and 2Have you installed Flip4Mac? Not sure if it's required for iPlayer, but certainly won't do any harm, as it's essential to play certain Microsoft formats. 3) Is Virgin your ISP? See previous comments re Virgin throttling downloads - could that have something to do with it? Hope this helps Robbie On 16 Nov 2008, at 17:03, Trevor Potter wrote: Dear All at NMUG I've seen a bit about BBC iPlayer commented on and I am wondering then are there Mac users actually able to sucessfully use iPlayer. If there are, what am I doing wrong on my Mac book pro? I am able to listen to missed Radio programmes but not watch TV shows very well. Looking on the iPlayer small print it says I need to have a particular flash player which I down loaded but the Mac fails to keep it. To watch a TV show I need to go through the install procedure before putting up iPlayer and selecting a programme. The next snag is that it cuts off the end of a programme. i.e. a 60 minute programme runs for 55 minutes and refuses to play anymore!? So far I've missed Top Gear and Family at War which is a bit annoying. Any tips will be gratefully received. I do wonder if wi-fi has a bearing on this? Regards Trevor Potter _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 19:26:57 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 19:26:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ch 5 TV In-Reply-To: <02234659-9A7B-49A9-A95F-A18385A79639@waitrose.com> References: <02234659-9A7B-49A9-A95F-A18385A79639@waitrose.com> Message-ID: Paul I can't get it to work either. It says you need Flip4Mac, but I have that installed already. Very odd. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 16 2008, Paul Harrowing wrote: Earlier today I was trying to look at a programme from earlier in the week and it kept saying I didn't have the correct pluggin so I downloaded the pluggin it said I needed and it still didn't work. Is this because I'm using a Mac. Incidently, I see Stephen Fry is having a chat to Jon Ive in TV later tonight. PAH _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 19:58:14 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 19:58:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] eBay Madness Message-ID: Hi It never ceases to amaze me how stupid eBay can be at times, or at least the people on there. I just sold two sticks of 512MB DDR RAM, for ?6 and ?8 each inc postage. Which I thought was pretty low. However, twenty minutes before my auctions actually finished I just won a Kingston 1GB DDR stick for ?3 inc postage. I was surprised to get it that cheap, it was just one of those 'i know I'll get outbid' initial bids, then I forgot all about it, until I got a won notice. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 20:43:20 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 20:43:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mini Linux Laptops Message-ID: Hi I know I said last night I was losing interest with computers, but I have woken up all refreshed today. Fitted a new hard drive and dvd drive into my eMac, and been tinkering with Ubuntu on my PowerBook. I also know this isn't really Mac related so please reply off list if you have any help. I am thinking of leaving the Mac portable world for one of those tiny little linux running webbooks or equivalent. Of course I don't want Windows, but I have used a number of linux distros and the most heavily used is Ubuntu, which these little machine seem to use. So can anyone offer any advice on whether they are worth it or not, if they have any limitations etc... Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 16 22:01:22 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:01:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Americanisms In-Reply-To: <20081116192703.AA22E7D785B@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081116192703.AA22E7D785B@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: > > On 15 Nov 2008, at 23:00, David King wrote: > >> in the same way as I would not used and Americanisation like >> 'gotten'. >> I believe 'gotten' to be Elizabethan English which has survived in America, but is yet not entirely lost to English English as it were: 'ill-gotten' for example retains currency, as does 'misbegotten' (Gottenburg and gotten tag, however, are puns in the poorest of taste). As for the lost 'u' in American spelling - color, behavior etc. - there is no knowing where that went to, or whether, in fact, it even existed in goode olde England, such was the accepted variety of spelling to be found until comparatively recently. It is, of course, derived from the French, who have much to answer for to be sure, but even more to be grateful for, in particular, and in no special order, brie, calvados, Brigitte Bardot, the Deux Chevaux, Inspector Maigret and Provence. From ghowells at f2s.com Sun Nov 16 23:23:32 2008 From: ghowells at f2s.com (G.Howells) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:23:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Eudora/Firefox Message-ID: Hi, Since installing the latest update of Firefox 3.0.3 I am having trouble with Eudora freezing and/or Firefox flashing to a url (when the link in Eudora is activated) and then back to the web page I was watching beforehand. Has anyone else noticed a conflict? Or is it just coincidence? Gordon. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 16 23:27:06 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 16 Nov 2008 23:27:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] AMD & Apple Message-ID: Hi people. I read this article and wanted others opinions. http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/11/16/amd.based.apple.laptop/ Rumour? Can we expect it? Wishful thinking? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 17 09:55:59 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 17 Nov 2008 09:55:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Adobe Trialing CS4 Message-ID: Hi For anyone interested, Adobe are now offering trials of their CS4 suite. http://www.adobe.com/downloads/ Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From david at vanedwards.co.uk Mon Nov 17 10:53:57 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:53:57 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Eudora/Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Gordon, Thanks for the alert. As I use this combo I think I'll wait for further reactions before downloading the Firefox update! Not the response you needed I know but caveat downloader......... Best wishes, David At 23:23 +0000 16/11/08, G.Howells wrote: >Hi, > Since installing the latest update of Firefox 3.0.3 I am >having trouble with Eudora freezing and/or Firefox flashing to a url >(when the link in Eudora is activated) and then back to the web page >I was watching beforehand. > >Has anyone else noticed a conflict? Or is it just coincidence? > >Gordon. >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 17 12:49:12 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:49:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mini Linux Laptops In-Reply-To: <20081117120003.5C3D67D7D50@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081117120003.5C3D67D7D50@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <962952D6-E62A-44DA-A14C-E0DAE98A4940@gmail.com> > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Mini Linux Laptops > > Hi > > I know I said last night I was losing interest with computers, but I > have > woken up all refreshed today. Fitted a new hard drive and dvd drive > into my > eMac, and been tinkering with Ubuntu on my PowerBook. > > > I am thinking of leaving the Mac portable world for one of those tiny > little linux running webbooks or equivalent. Of course I don't want > Windows, but I have used a number of linux distros and the most > heavily > used is Ubuntu, which these little machine seem to use. > > So can anyone offer any advice on whether they are worth it or not, > if they > have any limitations etc... A psychiatrist writes... Zis patient demonstrates ze incredible capacity many have for self- delusion, but to an unusually well developed degree. Most interesting. Zere is little hope for such patients, zey are forever condemned to wander, alone and basically friendless, in a miasma of conflicting architectures und software options, seeking ze holy grail of ze perfect solution to a problem zat does not in fact exist. For zese individuals ze computer has become a fixation for ze perfect mother, always willing to embrace her child in perfect forgiveness and possessing ze perfect understanding of what her child really wants to do, and therefore never disappoints ze child.. (continues for 94 pages) [Zis is und joke und anyone taking offence may write privately for an individual assessment. Paypal and cash always welcome. Gotten tag.] From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 17 13:36:23 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 17 Nov 2008 13:36:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Mini Linux Laptops In-Reply-To: <962952D6-E62A-44DA-A14C-E0DAE98A4940@gmail.com> References: <20081117120003.5C3D67D7D50@mail.durrant.co.uk> <962952D6-E62A-44DA-A14C-E0DAE98A4940@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stefan It may have been a joke, but you do have a point. What am I looking for. Why do I have the need to move further and further into nerdy and away from the rest of the computing world. We face enough 'non compatibility issues' as Mac users (such as iPlayer and 4 On Demand), so why would I feel the need to adopt an OS and architecture that has yet to have the basics such as Java and Flash support. All of my computing goals falls down to lack of finance, I was looking at a mini laptop due to their cost rather than their size - although that may have been a contributing factor. The move to Linux was a brief thought in my head, until I realised I would be lost if I had to use a machine that didn't sport an Apple logo, even though some of these can be hacked to run OSX, it is not just the operating system that hold a Mac user to a Mac. I think my overall goal is to obtain a faster, more capable portable machine, which I think I have sorted (in a fashion), so watch this space for further episodes of 'The Stefan and Simon Show'. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 17 2008, stefan youngs wrote: > > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Mini Linux Laptops > > Hi > > I know I said last night I was losing interest with computers, but I > have > woken up all refreshed today. Fitted a new hard drive and dvd drive > into my > eMac, and been tinkering with Ubuntu on my PowerBook. > > > I am thinking of leaving the Mac portable world for one of those tiny > little linux running webbooks or equivalent. Of course I don't want > Windows, but I have used a number of linux distros and the most > heavily > used is Ubuntu, which these little machine seem to use. > > So can anyone offer any advice on whether they are worth it or not, > if they > have any limitations etc... A psychiatrist writes... Zis patient demonstrates ze incredible capacity many have for self- delusion, but to an unusually well developed degree. Most interesting. Zere is little hope for such patients, zey are forever condemned to wander, alone and basically friendless, in a miasma of conflicting architectures und software options, seeking ze holy grail of ze perfect solution to a problem zat does not in fact exist. For zese individuals ze computer has become a fixation for ze perfect mother, always willing to embrace her child in perfect forgiveness and possessing ze perfect understanding of what her child really wants to do, and therefore never disappoints ze child.. (continues for 94 pages) [Zis is und joke und anyone taking offence may write privately for an individual assessment. Paypal and cash always welcome. Gotten tag.] _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 17 16:21:29 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 17 Nov 2008 16:21:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] File Sharing No More Message-ID: Hi Yet another problem I have since moving to WPA is, now file sharing from my PowerBook G3 running Tiger to my eMac running Leopard no longer works. Neither machine can see each other, manual connection fails to see anything. In Leopard down the side normally the machine names appear (you know that handy way of connecting to other Macs in Leopard), but now nothing. Both have file sharing turned on, no other settings have changed on either machine since I turned on WPA. Any ideas? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From alanbarber at mac.com Mon Nov 17 19:32:46 2008 From: alanbarber at mac.com (Alan Barber) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:32:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal Message-ID: <73C94765-84F6-45CA-8F71-F38D3EE1B4EF@mac.com> Just to let you know that after 16 days of worrying about whether I would get my money back from paypal I'm pleased to announce they have settled the case in my favour. I'm not sure how it happened but I was patient offered as much info as I could and with 1650 100% positive feedbacks I guess they thought I was a really nice guy! Anyway I have leant a lesson - dont send expensive items in the post without tracking or insurance. Thanks again to all who offered they comments. ps I also got ?40.00 back from National Express last week after being overcharged on a train ticket. Anyone want the lottery nos for Saturday? Regards Alan From penguin.999 at virgin.net Mon Nov 17 19:39:58 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:39:58 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal In-Reply-To: <73C94765-84F6-45CA-8F71-F38D3EE1B4EF@mac.com> References: <73C94765-84F6-45CA-8F71-F38D3EE1B4EF@mac.com> Message-ID: On Nov 17, 2008, at 19:32, Alan Barber wrote: > Just to let you know that after 16 days of worrying about whether I > would get > my money back from paypal I'm pleased to announce they have settled > the case in my favour. Very glad to hear that Alan. I have never had to open a dispute with PayPal but heard a few stories both good and bad. Paul C From paul at durrant.co.uk Mon Nov 17 21:51:40 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:51:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] paypal In-Reply-To: <73C94765-84F6-45CA-8F71-F38D3EE1B4EF@mac.com> References: <73C94765-84F6-45CA-8F71-F38D3EE1B4EF@mac.com> Message-ID: I'm very pleased to hear that it got resolved in your favour Alan. I shall try not to be so pessimistic about eBay/Paypal dispute resolution in future! Paul On 17 Nov 2008, at 19:32, Alan Barber wrote: > Just to let you know that after 16 days of worrying about whether I > would get > my money back from paypal I'm pleased to announce they have settled > the case in my favour. > I'm not sure how it happened but I was patient offered as much info > as I could > and with 1650 100% positive feedbacks I guess they thought I was a > really nice guy! > > Anyway I have leant a lesson - dont send expensive items in the post > without tracking or insurance. > > Thanks again to all who offered they comments. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Mon Nov 17 23:12:13 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 17 Nov 2008 23:12:13 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4 PowerBook/iBook Queries Message-ID: Hi I might be in the market for a new portable Mac but have a few queries. 1. The iBook G3s were plagued with graphic chip problems, did the iBook G4s suffer from this too? 2. Did the 17" G4 PowerBooks have any known problems? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Tue Nov 18 00:19:00 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:19:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G4 PowerBook/iBook Queries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <229595A3-7E60-42C6-B1C0-B30D421D18E6@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Simon, On 17 Nov 2008, at 23:12, Simon Royal > > 2. Did the 17" G4 PowerBooks have any known problems? Mine has been fine the whole time I've had it (I'm trying to sell it at the moment if you're interested). -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From potter.tj at virgin.net Tue Nov 18 21:07:22 2008 From: potter.tj at virgin.net (Trevor Potter) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:07:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Actually using iPlayer Message-ID: <874B8E22-B399-48B2-A408-4499CB5169DE@virgin.net> Thanks to Robbie and Tom for replying to my question. Sorry for delay I was away for a few days after. Just to note the Adobe Flash player from BBC was a .pkg at 5.7MB but file seems to only show 97kB, I'll have to work on that. (Couldn't see if file had to be unzipped!) I've seen other people talk about Flip4Mac I'll have a look at this. I've heard a lot of talk about Virgin cutting peoples broardband. If they were that bad would no Virgin customer be able to watch BBC iPlayer! I've yet to mess about with plugging combinations so I will carry on plugging away at the problem. Cheers all Trevor From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 18 22:37:00 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 18 Nov 2008 22:37:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 5x Speed Limit In B&W G3 Message-ID: Hi I am selling a few bits on eBay, a couple of which are drives and I had a bizarre question I had never heard of before. One of my items is a ComboDrive from an iMac G4 and a buyer reckons the B&W G3 towers only take drives upto 5x. I'm not sure whether he means 5x burner or 5x burn, but I just wanted to check I wasn't missing something. I have had DVD burners in B&W G3s before and never heard of anything like this. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 19 08:11:36 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:11:36 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 5x Speed Limit In B&W G3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3503C654-EBB3-4235-923B-6E2A13B49532@durrant.co.uk> The only safe thing to do is to state that the drive is not sold guaranteed to work in any particular machine. But as to the question - I don't know of any hard limit on the speed of internal burners on an iMac G3. There may be a practical limit - that they can't burn faster than a certain speed, but I'd expect that to be considerably faster than 5x CD-R regards, Paul On 18 Nov 2008, at 22:37, Simon Royal wrote: > I am selling a few bits on eBay, a couple of which are drives and I > had a bizarre question I had never heard of before. > > One of my items is a ComboDrive from an iMac G4 and a buyer reckons > the B&W G3 towers only take drives upto 5x. I'm not sure whether he > means 5x burner or 5x burn, but I just wanted to check I wasn't > missing something. > > I have had DVD burners in B&W G3s before and never heard of anything > like this. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 19 08:50:25 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:50:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] 5x Speed Limit In B&W G3 Message-ID: Paul I wasn't exactly sure what he meant either. If anything I would have thought it was a limit because of the speed of the machine. However I would have thought that related to DVD burning. I had CD burners on old Pentium 1 machines burning faster than 5x. I told him the drive worked perfectly but offered no machine guarantees. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: [NMUG] 5x Speed Limit In B&W G3 From: Paul Durrant Date: 19/11/2008 08:11 The only safe thing to do is to state that the drive is not sold guaranteed to work in any particular machine. But as to the question - I don't know of any hard limit on the speed of internal burners on an iMac G3. There may be a practical limit - that they can't burn faster than a certain speed, but I'd expect that to be considerably faster than 5x CD-R regards, Paul On 18 Nov 2008, at 22:37, Simon Royal wrote: > I am selling a few bits on eBay, a couple of which are drives and I > had a bizarre question I had never heard of before. > > One of my items is a ComboDrive from an iMac G4 and a buyer reckons > the B&W G3 towers only take drives upto 5x. I'm not sure whether he > means 5x burner or 5x burn, but I just wanted to check I wasn't > missing something. > > I have had DVD burners in B&W G3s before and never heard of anything > like this. _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 19 10:13:20 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 19 Nov 2008 10:13:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Leopard Forgetting Wireless Still Message-ID: Hi I still have not resolved my problem in Leopard. It seems to be Leopard specific as none of my other Macs do it. It just randomly on start up forgets to my wireless network and I have to manually join. I have Googled the problem and it seems a lot of other people have the same problem under Leopard, but no resolve. It started since I changed from WEP to WPA. My SSID is hidden, if I changed this to broadcast SSID would this make any difference. My wife is getting quite annoyed that she has no internet when she turns the Mac on. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From band1 at mac.com Wed Nov 19 10:23:22 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:23:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ipod touch Message-ID: I have just got an iPod Touch and all is working fine. When I am away from my wireless network I see others and can join them but if I want to send an e-mail how do I do that if I do not have their SMTP data. If I am at friends it isn't a problem as I can ask, but if I am in Norwich for example and on a free network how do I find out? David From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 19 10:29:49 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 19 Nov 2008 10:29:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ipod touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David You should use the same SMTP settings as you do at home. ie, your .mac should come with in and out server settings, there should be no need to change them for each network you join. I have my Nokia E71 with wifi and connect all over the place and never change my mail server settings. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 19 2008, David King wrote: I have just got an iPod Touch and all is working fine. When I am away from my wireless network I see others and can join them but if I want to send an e-mail how do I do that if I do not have their SMTP data. If I am at friends it isn't a problem as I can ask, but if I am in Norwich for example and on a free network how do I find out? David _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Wed Nov 19 10:37:00 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:37:00 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ipod touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59D48821-6C5C-49B7-8FFF-017FACDA4693@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> On 19 Nov 2008, at 10:29, Simon Royal wrote: > You should use the same SMTP settings as you do at home. ie, > your .mac should come with in and out server settings, there should > be no need to change them for each network you join. That is true so long as you use authenticated SMTP (ie with a username and password). If you use your ISP's SMTP server you'll tend to be authenticated by IP address. David -- see if you can authenticate against the SMTP server you're using and then you should be able to use it anywhere, as Simon says. -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From band1 at mac.com Wed Nov 19 10:39:38 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:39:38 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ipod touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09EA205C-0F9B-48C8-B856-6D9E2E18BE06@mac.com> My Mobile Me account comes in on mail.mac.com setting and out on my ISP setting. That doesn't work outside home as another ISP does not accept it so what you are saying doesn't work. David On 19 Nov 2008, at 10:29, Simon Royal wrote: > David > > You should use the same SMTP settings as you do at home. ie, > your .mac should come with in and out server settings, there should > be no need to change them for each network you join. > > I have my Nokia E71 with wifi and connect all over the place and > never change my mail server settings. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > On Nov 19 2008, David King wrote: > > I have just got an iPod Touch and all is working fine. When I am > away from my wireless network I see others and can join them but if > I want to send an e-mail how do I do that if I do not have their > SMTP data. If I am at friends it isn't a problem as I can ask, but > if I am in Norwich for example and on a free network how do I find > out? > > David > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From band1 at mac.com Wed Nov 19 10:43:23 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:43:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] ipod touch In-Reply-To: <59D48821-6C5C-49B7-8FFF-017FACDA4693@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> References: <59D48821-6C5C-49B7-8FFF-017FACDA4693@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Message-ID: <2589A9B2-3494-4FD2-B977-586E2E44AAB5@mac.com> Its authenticated by password if that is what you mean and when I was at friends and tested it, it wouldn't send. They use Sky as an ISP if that makes any difference. David On 19 Nov 2008, at 10:37, David Reynolds wrote: > > On 19 Nov 2008, at 10:29, Simon Royal wrote: > >> You should use the same SMTP settings as you do at home. ie, >> your .mac should come with in and out server settings, there should >> be no need to change them for each network you join. > > That is true so long as you use authenticated SMTP (ie with a > username and password). If you use your ISP's SMTP server you'll > tend to be authenticated by IP address. > > David -- see if you can authenticate against the SMTP server you're > using and then you should be able to use it anywhere, as Simon says. > > -- > David Reynolds > david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 19 10:51:29 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 19 Nov 2008 10:51:29 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] .Mac SMTP Message-ID: Hi This is for David. Why are you using your ISP SMTP settings? Why not use the .mac SMTP settings. I just Googled your problem and that was a solution suggested. However, I am flying blind as I have never personally used a .mac account (except for uploading the NMUG website, but that isn't my .mac). Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From band1 at mac.com Wed Nov 19 11:09:42 2008 From: band1 at mac.com (David King) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:09:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] .Mac SMTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1260F785-EFC7-44AE-8D9A-71F146EB34D2@mac.com> I have changed my setting on the Mobile Me account to use the mac.com smtp server and synced with my ipod which has now changed to that setting and has my ISP setting as a secondary server so that hopefully will now work outside my network. Thanks for help David On 19 Nov 2008, at 10:51, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > This is for David. Why are you using your ISP SMTP settings? Why not > use the .mac SMTP settings. > > I just Googled your problem and that was a solution suggested. > However, I am flying blind as I have never personally used a .mac > account (except for uploading the NMUG website, but that isn't > my .mac). > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 19 12:43:50 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:50 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Virgin and iPlayer Message-ID: <54F2C753-9DB3-4320-B173-552C69786F07@gmail.com> If anyone has definite info on Virgin terminating or curtailing/ restricting service (as in applying traffic shaping or throttling) to those using iPlayer to view video, I'd be grateful for the information. This would be consistent with what I found from my abortive attempt to use Virgin myself: traffic shaping was applied immediately torrents started, but their technician told me this would not occur if I downloaded fee-based Virgin video content. I'm supporting a group preparing anti-competitive complaints to the relevant EU body. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 20 08:19:25 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 20 Nov 2008 08:19:25 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Snow Leopard In Q1 2009 Message-ID: Hi Read this this morning re: Snow Leopard. http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/18/mac-os-x-snow-leopard-10-6-due-in-q1-2009/ Looks like it could be with us in a few months. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 20 16:05:09 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 20 Nov 2008 16:05:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Music Sequencing Software Message-ID: Hi I have asked this before and tried out the suggestions but still haven't been able to find a comfortable piece of software. I want a piece of music software that I can add my own samples into (in MP3, AIFF or WAV format). Once imported I want to be able to loop them and create new tunes. I need to be able to alter the pitch of the imported sample and also stretch to fit when I need to. I have tried Metro and Sequel recently but they are no good GarageBand is good but it is very processor intensive. I had Sonic Foundry Acid on the PC a number of years ago and it was awesome - but I can't find anything to match it on the Mac. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Nov 20 16:30:28 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:30:28 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Music Sequencing Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20 Nov 2008, at 16:05, Simon Royal wrote: > GarageBand is good but it is very processor intensive. I had Sonic > Foundry Acid on the PC a number of years ago and it was awesome - > but I can't find anything to match it on the Mac. I was just going to suggest Acid, since as you say it was awesome for that sort of thing. Please let me know if you find anything for the Mac as I'd love to see it :) -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 20 16:34:23 2008 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:34:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Music Sequencing Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 'ableton' is probably your best bet, it's not cheap though. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have asked this before and tried out the suggestions but still haven't > been able to find a comfortable piece of software. > > I want a piece of music software that I can add my own samples into (in > MP3, AIFF or WAV format). Once imported I want to be able to loop them and > create new tunes. > > I need to be able to alter the pitch of the imported sample and also > stretch to fit when I need to. I have tried Metro and Sequel recently but > they are no good > > GarageBand is good but it is very processor intensive. I had Sonic Foundry > Acid on the PC a number of years ago and it was awesome - but I can't find > anything to match it on the Mac. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac > User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an > Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From munkt0n at gmail.com Thu Nov 20 16:40:16 2008 From: munkt0n at gmail.com (Scott Matthews) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:40:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Music Sequencing Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: link - http://www.ableton.com/ a word of warning : don't be tempted to 'borrow' a serial number, as it occasionally phones home, and if it discovers you're using a dodgy serial number it will trash all your song files. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have asked this before and tried out the suggestions but still haven't > been able to find a comfortable piece of software. > > I want a piece of music software that I can add my own samples into (in > MP3, AIFF or WAV format). Once imported I want to be able to loop them and > create new tunes. > > I need to be able to alter the pitch of the imported sample and also > stretch to fit when I need to. I have tried Metro and Sequel recently but > they are no good > > GarageBand is good but it is very processor intensive. I had Sonic Foundry > Acid on the PC a number of years ago and it was awesome - but I can't find > anything to match it on the Mac. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac > User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an > Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > From rbygrave at ntlworld.com Thu Nov 20 16:58:45 2008 From: rbygrave at ntlworld.com (Ruth Bygrave) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:45 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External disc problem Message-ID: <36A715CD-88ED-4BDE-8E6B-CC8BB7F8022E@ntlworld.com> Got a new 1Tb Free Agent disc to replace my 250Gb, tried to set it to MacOS extended journaled, but currently it doesn't seems to be doing much. Message in Disc Utility is: newfs:hfs /dev/rdisk3s1: partition size not a multiple of 4K What is occurring? The only details on the quickstart sheet are for Windows, but it seems a bit extreme of them if they somehow *haven't* got a standard Mass Storage device. Regards, Ruth From david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk Thu Nov 20 21:53:10 2008 From: david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk (David Reynolds) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:53:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] FAO: Joe Butler References: <66BF7943-04A1-457A-AF8E-80CFECA31A74@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Message-ID: <39CCC762-7058-46A5-B2C2-8DAFBAAE29C0@reynoldsfamily.org.uk> Joe, Just wondering if you're getting my emails regarding my powerbook? Are you still interested in it? Cheers, David -- David Reynolds david at reynoldsfamily.org.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Fri Nov 21 16:17:32 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:17:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OSX 10/4 requirements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One for Simon I suspect! Can one run OSX10.4 on a G3 iMac? The mac site says: To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs: * A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor * Built-in FireWire * At least 256 MB of RAM * DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation * At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools That is does one really need a DVD reader? A friend is running 10.1.1 satisfactorily and would like to upgrade, is it possible? Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From robbiemurray at f2s.com Fri Nov 21 16:37:56 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:37:56 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OSX 10/4 requirements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David I suspect it's because the installation disk is a DVD! As I remember, up to 10.3 it was 2 x CDs, but Tiger comes on DVD, although I seem to recall there was a CD option - a whole pile of them! It can, of course be done using an external DVD Firewire drive, which will allow the machine to boot from the install disk. I have one you're welcome to borrow, but it's at Stowmarket, and would take a week or so to get up to Norwich, but if you don't have access to another, please let me know. Hope this helps. Robbie On 21 Nov 2008, at 16:17, David Van Edwards wrote: One for Simon I suspect! Can one run OSX10.4 on a G3 iMac? The mac site says: To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs: * A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor * Built-in FireWire * At least 256 MB of RAM * DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation * At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools That is does one really need a DVD reader? A friend is running 10.1.1 satisfactorily and would like to upgrade, is it possible? Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From rbygrave at ntlworld.com Fri Nov 21 21:28:17 2008 From: rbygrave at ntlworld.com (Ruth Bygrave) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:28:17 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] External drive woes... solved Message-ID: (The netiquette of cross-posting is hotly contested, but it's not generally considered to be bad unless a) in very high volume or b) only relevant to one list. If I'm asking a question of general Mac interest I quite often send it to all three lists to maximise possible answers, but considering I only ask these questions once or twice a month if that I don't think it's too bad) I was really tearing my hair out about this bloody problem, trying to work out if the drive was so large (1Tb) that it would require some bizarre system of partitioning, or as if (as someone suggested) it had to be loaded with special software rather than using Disc Utility. In which case I was SOL because the first thing I'd done was erase it in Disc Utility to change from Ms-Dos drive to Mac Extended Journaled (which is the standard thing to do with a Windows-formatted disc). All attempts to mount or repair it seemed to show an invalid filesystem, after the original error message about 'not multiples of 4K' (???). Eventually looked up this problem on the Seagate site, which remarked that this was a Leopard problem that tended to happen on erasing external drives with Disc Utility. Am extremely unimpressed that a major new OS could screw up something so basic. After saying 'try Windows' (No. Just no.) or 'use a previous Mac OS' (my old Mac mini PPC is still in the spare room and it would be a pain to hook up all its constituent parts), Seagate was good enough to explain in words of one syllable exactly how to use Disc Utility to partition (rather than erase) it. So all is well, but I have learned that even a drive which apparently only needs its format changed actually needs to be explicitly repartitioned. Regards, (...sent to several lists in case this particular annoyance ever happens to anyone else...) Ruth From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 21 22:16:47 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:16:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Now 83 Message-ID: <5ZJffQtLcsCl.9kbNmryF@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I watching 'Now Thats What I Call 1983' on TV and one of my music heroes of the 80s, Howard Jones is on and he has a black MacBook on stage, with its Apple logo proudly on show. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 22 22:24:21 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 22 Nov 2008 22:24:21 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] New Titanium Owner Message-ID: Hi I am now the proud owner of a PowerBook G4 867Mhz Titanium. I got it today and it needs a bit of work. I had a smashed screen and no keyboard, but other than that isin mint condition. I have just fitted a new screen to it and am using an external keyboard at present. I have ordered one. It really is an awesome machine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 23 01:07:31 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Nov 2008 01:07:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Slow Charging PowerBook Message-ID: Hi I have a question regarding my new PowerBook G4. That battery was completely dead when I got it. So I have been charging it. It has been almost 2 hours and it has only gotten to 31%. This seems very slow. Is it just because it was completely dead? I checked the stats using CoconutBattery and it only holds about 70% of its original capacity but that should still give it over an hour of life at least and shouldn't affect charging time. Any ideas? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From june.perrett at mac.com Sun Nov 23 15:09:18 2008 From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:09:18 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Photos from iPhoto into facebook Message-ID: I have just joined facebook and wondered if someone in the Nmug group belongs too. I want to put some photos from my iPhoto Library into my facebook profile. I think I need to change the resolution to a low resolution. Is this correct? Can it be done in iPhoto or only in Photoshop? I have PS Elements 4 and I have iLife '08 on my iMac. What size (measurements) do I make the photos? Once that's done how do I get the pics into facebook? I'd be most grateful for some help. Many thanks. June Perrett From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sun Nov 23 16:38:46 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:38:46 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Netgear router test? Message-ID: Dear All, We've got a problem with getting Thea's son onto Virgin ADSL with an iBook with OSX. The BT SpeedTouch modem supplied by Virgin works fine with a G3 iMac on OS9 but, after many failures and much phoning, Virgin finally said that it was incompatible with OSX We therefore bought a Netgear wireless modem/router (D834G) and tried to set it up first using the ethernet cable and an ADSL filter/ splitter. We can't get it even to first base. After all the booting up routines of the router it simply emerges with a red light on the internet connection symbol. As far as I can see something is wrong with either the Virgin line set-up or with the Netgear router itself. Before tangling again with Virgin we'd like to test the router to check that it isn't faulty. But we live in Norwich and only have cable broadband so we can't test the router on anything here. Is there any kind soul who has ADSL working who could try out the router for us? Naturally we'll deliver and collect and express gratitude in suitable ways of your choice! Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From penguin.999 at virgin.net Sun Nov 23 17:24:40 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:24:40 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November Meeting Message-ID: <87ABFEC3-1998-4346-B49E-32BED26FE8B8@virgin.net> The next meeting is on Wednesday 26th November 2008 that being the fourth Wednesday of the month and should be held at: The Bakers Arms, 66 St Leonards Rd, Norwich, NR1 4JF The time will be 7.30 as usual and here is a map to help you. This is likely to be the last meeting of the year unless some sad folks have nothing better to do on Christmas Eve! I will try and pop in tomorrow and see the landlord to make sure he remembers us although he has been pretty good about it. Make the effort and see you there. Paul C From robbiemurray at f2s.com Sun Nov 23 18:36:26 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:36:26 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Netgear router test? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DFF63E4-8E65-4EC9-B786-ACF117BF5512@f2s.com> Hi David I can test it, and as you know am only five minutes away ... ... but I thought Virgin was cable only? If so, it requires a different modem/router - the DG834 is for connection to a BT line only. Robbie On 23 Nov 2008, at 16:38, David Van Edwards wrote: Dear All, We've got a problem with getting Thea's son onto Virgin ADSL with an iBook with OSX. The BT SpeedTouch modem supplied by Virgin works fine with a G3 iMac on OS9 but, after many failures and much phoning, Virgin finally said that it was incompatible with OSX We therefore bought a Netgear wireless modem/router (D834G) and tried to set it up first using the ethernet cable and an ADSL filter/ splitter. We can't get it even to first base. After all the booting up routines of the router it simply emerges with a red light on the internet connection symbol. As far as I can see something is wrong with either the Virgin line set- up or with the Netgear router itself. Before tangling again with Virgin we'd like to test the router to check that it isn't faulty. But we live in Norwich and only have cable broadband so we can't test the router on anything here. Is there any kind soul who has ADSL working who could try out the router for us? Naturally we'll deliver and collect and express gratitude in suitable ways of your choice! Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sun Nov 23 21:13:01 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:13:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Netgear router test? In-Reply-To: <2DFF63E4-8E65-4EC9-B786-ACF117BF5512@f2s.com> References: <2DFF63E4-8E65-4EC9-B786-ACF117BF5512@f2s.com> Message-ID: Dear Robbie, That's very kind of you, we'd love to take you up on that. Yes, we are on Virgin cable broadband ourselves but I didn't say that Tom, Thea's son, is in London in a non-cabled bit of his street so he's had to sign up to Virgin ADSL with a BT line, hence the Netgear router. Also hence our inability to test it as we don't have ADSL. I'll give you a ring tomorrow to see when would be the best time to bring it round to you. Best wishes, David At 18:36 +0000 23/11/08, Robbie Murray wrote: >Hi David > >I can test it, and as you know am only five minutes away ... > >... but I thought Virgin was cable only? > > >If so, it requires a different modem/router - the DG834 is for >connection to a BT line only. > >Robbie > > >On 23 Nov 2008, at 16:38, David Van Edwards wrote: > >Dear All, > >We've got a problem with getting Thea's son onto Virgin ADSL with an >iBook with OSX. The BT SpeedTouch modem supplied by Virgin works >fine with a G3 iMac on OS9 but, after many failures and much >phoning, Virgin finally said that it was incompatible with OSX > >We therefore bought a Netgear wireless modem/router (D834G) and >tried to set it up first using the ethernet cable and an ADSL >filter/ splitter. We can't get it even to first base. After all the >booting up routines of the router it simply emerges with a red light >on the internet connection symbol. > >As far as I can see something is wrong with either the Virgin line >set-up or with the Netgear router itself. > >Before tangling again with Virgin we'd like to test the router to >check that it isn't faulty. But we live in Norwich and only have >cable broadband so we can't test the router on anything here. > >Is there any kind soul who has ADSL working who could try out the >router for us? Naturally we'll deliver and collect and express >gratitude in suitable ways of your choice! > >Best wishes, > >David > >-- >The Smokehouse, >6 Whitwell Road, >Norwich, NR1 4HB >England. > >Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > >Robbie Murray >robbiemurray at f2s.com >01603-620749 >01603-516175 >07882-007667 > > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 23 21:25:01 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Nov 2008 21:25:01 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Battery/Charging Question Message-ID: Hi I have a PowerBook battery and charging question. It took about 3 hours to charge the battery to full. I was using it at the time and it is not an official charger, just one of those cheap white ones, so it may not be a high power one. I can live with this, however on full charge the battery lasted less than ten minutes before putting the machine to sleep. Does this indicate the battery is just about dead. I ran Coconut Battery again today: Original battery: 4220mAh Current battery: 2885mAh Battery-Loadcycles: 742 On full charge it measures only 68% in Coconut Battery. I would have thought personally, given the results from Coconut Battery, it would have held for about an hour. Any ideas? Any help? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 23 22:27:27 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 23 Nov 2008 22:27:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Battery/Charging Question - Update Message-ID: Hi The battery on this PowerBook is playing games with me. Earlier today I managed to boot the PowerBook on a fully charged battery and then the machine died and went to sleep. I am now coming up for an hour of usage, heavy usage. I ran every piece of software installed, checked for updates for all and am currently downloading an Office update. It still shows it has half a battery left, estimated 59 minutes. If it does hold out, that will be two hours, if it dies now it will still be an hour. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From rob at atvetsystems.com Mon Nov 24 00:13:55 2008 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:13:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Battery/Charging Question - Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Had it been through a full cycle earlier? I believe that until the batter needs calibrating by running out completely to a forced sleep then going through a full charge. I used to get just over two hours on a brand-new 17" 1GHz PowerBook G4 if I dimmed the screen a bit but stil had airport and bluetooth on. Regards, Rob. On 23 Nov 2008, at 22:27, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > The battery on this PowerBook is playing games with me. Earlier > today I managed to boot the PowerBook on a fully charged battery and > then the machine died and went to sleep. > > I am now coming up for an hour of usage, heavy usage. I ran every > piece of software installed, checked for updates for all and am > currently downloading an Office update. > > It still shows it has half a battery left, estimated 59 minutes. > > If it does hold out, that will be two hours, if it dies now it will > still be an hour. > > Simon From cruachan at tesco.net Mon Nov 24 14:09:31 2008 From: cruachan at tesco.net (ne-obliviscaris) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:09:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Watton branch Message-ID: <2F17657B-BC4C-4EDA-815D-031EB3ABC722@tesco.net> Hi All, Hate to be disloyal,....................... did someone mention a Watton sub Branch ? Anyone got the address ? Many thanks, john From sales at trianglecomputers.co.uk Mon Nov 24 14:23:35 2008 From: sales at trianglecomputers.co.uk (Triangle Computer Systems) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:23:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: Slow charging PowerBook In-Reply-To: <20081123120005.78ED07DAB3B@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081123120005.78ED07DAB3B@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <492AB8E7.4000400@trianglecomputers.co.uk> Simon, Sounds like the battery is just dying - you can try calibrating it by discharging it by letting it go to sleep and then charging it fully. What does it say is the maximum full charge capacity in the system profiler? Unfortunately, I think Li-Ion rechargable batteries do degrade over time - that's why manufacturers like Asus only give a 6 month warranty on batteries. I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption from experience of many, many dead laptop batteries from all sorts of laptops - apple or otherwise. Tom Triangle Computer Systems t: (01603 ) 66 72 32 e: sales at trianglecomputers.co.uk w: www.trianglecomputers.co.uk > Message: 2 > Date: 23 Nov 2008 01:07:31 +0000 > From: Simon Royal > Subject: [NMUG] Slow Charging PowerBook > To: nmug at durrant.co.uk > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > > I have a question regarding my new PowerBook G4. That battery was > completely dead when I got it. So I have been charging it. It has been > almost 2 hours and it has only gotten to 31%. > > This seems very slow. Is it just because it was completely dead? I checked > the stats using CoconutBattery and it only holds about 70% of its original > capacity but that should still give it over an hour of life at least and > shouldn't affect charging time. > > Any ideas? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, > hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User > Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple > Mac. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > End of NMUG Digest, Vol 58, Issue 25 > ************************************ > > From thegees at jennygee.f2s.com Mon Nov 24 17:15:05 2008 From: thegees at jennygee.f2s.com (Malcolm Gee) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:15:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Running PC software on an Intel Mac Message-ID: <0247A894-FA1D-4215-974A-351F0F57BC95@jennygee.f2s.com> Hi all, Do any of you have any experience of running Microsoft Vista on an Intel Mac, using VmWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop software, and if so, do you have any preferences over which software performs the best? Regards, Malcolm. From marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 25 09:04:08 2008 From: marilyn.joy at ntlworld.com (marilynjoycampbell) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:04:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: programme frozen In-Reply-To: <20081118120003.D68A57D85B7@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081118120003.D68A57D85B7@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <010a5b8cc555b932a05009a2ea2dc6fb@ntlworld.com> Please can anyone help with a frozen programme. Yesterday I opened up an email and was directed to a website buylocalnorfolk. Although I run on Internet Explorer and Safari it opened up in Safari and has frozen. The address is still highlighted in blue and the familiar coloured disc is turning endlessly! I have tried to close down and nothing has any effect. Fortunately I am still able to use other programmes but need to come out of Safari - any advice out there please!!!!! Desperate! Marilyn Campbell From penguin.999 at virgin.net Tue Nov 25 09:13:51 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:13:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: programme frozen In-Reply-To: <010a5b8cc555b932a05009a2ea2dc6fb@ntlworld.com> References: <20081118120003.D68A57D85B7@mail.durrant.co.uk> <010a5b8cc555b932a05009a2ea2dc6fb@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Nov 25, 2008, at 09:04, marilynjoycampbell wrote: > > Please can anyone help with a frozen programme. Yesterday I opened > up an email and was directed to a website buylocalnorfolk. Although > I run on Internet Explorer and Safari it opened up in Safari and has > frozen. The address is still highlighted in blue and the familiar > coloured disc is turning endlessly! I have tried to close down and > nothing has any effect. Fortunately I am still able to use other > programmes but need to come out of Safari - any advice out there > please!!!!! Desperate! Have you tried force quitting? Down from the Apple menu (top left) you will find Force Quit. open it and highlight Safari. That will force the program to quit. If not then get back to us. Paul C From david at vanedwards.co.uk Tue Nov 25 09:41:20 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:41:20 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: programme frozen In-Reply-To: <010a5b8cc555b932a05009a2ea2dc6fb@ntlworld.com> References: <20081118120003.D68A57D85B7@mail.durrant.co.uk> <010a5b8cc555b932a05009a2ea2dc6fb@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Dear Marylin, Sometimes the cursor is implicated in its beachball mode so that you can't operate the menu to force quit. In which case you can use the key strokes cmd/alt/esc which bring up the force quit dialogue. Best wishes, David At 09:04 +0000 25/11/08, marilynjoycampbell wrote: > Please can anyone help with a frozen programme. Yesterday I opened >up an email and was directed to a website buylocalnorfolk. Although >I run on Internet Explorer and Safari it opened up in Safari and has >frozen. The address is still highlighted in blue and the familiar >coloured disc is turning endlessly! I have tried to close down and >nothing has any effect. Fortunately I am still able to use other >programmes but need to come out of Safari - any advice out there >please!!!!! Desperate! > >Marilyn Campbell > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 25 10:25:35 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 25 Nov 2008 10:25:35 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenBSD Mac Port Message-ID: Hi I know there are some people on the group who like to push the boundaries of computing, so I was wondering if anyone here has tried OpenBSD? There is a PPC Mac port which has very low requirements and has good support for Apple hardware. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From rob at atvetsystems.com Tue Nov 25 11:09:52 2008 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:09:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] OpenBSD Mac Port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <562B045C-06A5-4024-872D-3766095D70B7@atvetsystems.com> I've used it under VMware and on a Sun SPARCStation. But if you want OpenBSD why not just open the terminal? Mac OS X is built on BSD UNIX anyway I do development on SCO UNIX but use the BSD layer on the Mac to do most of the development moving to SCO UNIX under VMware for the final testing. Regards, Rob. On 25 Nov 2008, at 10:25, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I know there are some people on the group who like to push the > boundaries of computing, so I was wondering if anyone here has tried > OpenBSD? > > There is a PPC Mac port which has very low requirements and has good > support for Apple hardware. > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. From penguin.999 at virgin.net Tue Nov 25 19:13:49 2008 From: penguin.999 at virgin.net (Paul Chapman) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:13:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] November Meeting In-Reply-To: <87ABFEC3-1998-4346-B49E-32BED26FE8B8@virgin.net> References: <87ABFEC3-1998-4346-B49E-32BED26FE8B8@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Nov 23, 2008, at 17:24, Paul Chapman wrote: > The next meeting is on Wednesday 26th November 2008 that being the > fourth Wednesday of the month and should be held at: > The Bakers Arms, 66 St Leonards Rd, Norwich, NR1 4JF > The time will be 7.30 as usual and here is a map to help you. > > This is likely to be the last meeting of the year unless some sad > folks have nothing better to do on Christmas Eve! It has been confirmed that the pub is still open and they are expecting us tomorrow night. Hope to see as many of you as possible there. Paul C From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Tue Nov 25 21:10:23 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 25 Nov 2008 21:10:23 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Music Software... Again Message-ID: Hi I am still on the hunt for Mac equivalent of Sonic Foundry Acid Pro. I've been playing with Ableton Live today and it is close, but it still doesn't offer the ability to basically stretch samples to fit, or if it does then I haven't found it yet. If anyone has any other suggestions let me know. Can you do this in Cubase? Also, Digidesign have ended their free ProTools for OS 9 download. If anyone has it, could they share it please. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From tim.collier at mac.com Tue Nov 25 21:14:18 2008 From: tim.collier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:14:18 -0500 Subject: [NMUG] Leaving the list Message-ID: Hello all: I subscribed to your user group a while back and have been getting all of your posts. I have enjoyed all of them. But since your group is located in the UK and I'm in Miami, a lot of the local references have no meaning to me. So, in an effort to cut down on the number of posts that I receive, I am unsubscribing. Thank you all for all of your excellent input. -- Tim Collier Soy un espa?ol en mi mente pero atrapado en un cuerpo estadounidense. http://www.timcolliermiami.com/ From robharrington at mac.com Tue Nov 25 22:07:14 2008 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:07:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. Message-ID: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> Hello, It is many, many months since I have contacted your illustrious pages and in the past I have read many, many times about boot up problems ; here's mine. G5 IMac OS 10.4.9 with 23 Gb free on the HD yesterday became very slow on booting up, (Normal speed when finally operating.) Now can't get it to verify disc permissions Ran AppleJack ( hooray for AppleJack! ) but this time it failed to help. "The disk directory is not healthy" . it said after volume check failed in AppleJack AUTO mode before that it read: dev/rdiskOs3 i/O error invalid node structure ( 4,7188) If this is beyond e-mail advice Can anyone recommend a recent experience with a Mac repair outfit near Norwich? RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob From steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk Tue Nov 25 22:09:47 2008 From: steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk (Steven Jefferson) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:09:47 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. In-Reply-To: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> References: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> Message-ID: <8A452751-14B8-419C-B320-605A8B655AED@zen.co.uk> Sounds like a job for DiskWarrior. Steven Jefferson steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk On 25 Nov 2008, at 22:07, ROB HARRINGTON wrote: > Hello, It is many, many months since I have contacted your > illustrious pages > and in the past I have read many, many times about boot up problems ; > here's mine. > > G5 IMac OS 10.4.9 > with 23 Gb free on the HD > yesterday became very slow on booting up, > (Normal speed when finally operating.) > Now can't get it to verify disc permissions > Ran AppleJack ( hooray for AppleJack! ) > but this time it failed to help. > > "The disk directory is not healthy" . it said after volume check > failed > in AppleJack AUTO mode > before that it read: > dev/rdiskOs3 i/O error > invalid node structure > ( 4,7188) > > If this is beyond e-mail advice > Can anyone recommend a recent experience with a Mac repair outfit > near Norwich? > > RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug From robbiemurray at f2s.com Tue Nov 25 22:14:42 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:14:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. In-Reply-To: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> References: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> Message-ID: 23Gb left out of what size drive? On 25 Nov 2008, at 22:07, ROB HARRINGTON wrote: Hello, It is many, many months since I have contacted your illustrious pages and in the past I have read many, many times about boot up problems ; here's mine. G5 IMac OS 10.4.9 with 23 Gb free on the HD yesterday became very slow on booting up, (Normal speed when finally operating.) Now can't get it to verify disc permissions Ran AppleJack ( hooray for AppleJack! ) but this time it failed to help. "The disk directory is not healthy" . it said after volume check failed in AppleJack AUTO mode before that it read: dev/rdiskOs3 i/O error invalid node structure ( 4,7188) If this is beyond e-mail advice Can anyone recommend a recent experience with a Mac repair outfit near Norwich? RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From paul at durrant.co.uk Wed Nov 26 12:32:55 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:32:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. In-Reply-To: <8A452751-14B8-419C-B320-605A8B655AED@zen.co.uk> References: <6DD1EF63-E185-4FB5-BEEF-BF569A27745F@mac.com> <8A452751-14B8-419C-B320-605A8B655AED@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <4990ADF2-46EE-4B4B-86AF-73396F387508@durrant.co.uk> Seconded. Rebuilding a corrupt directory structure is exactly what DiskWarrior was written to do, and it does it very well. http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/ Paul On 25 Nov 2008, at 22:09, Steven Jefferson wrote: > Sounds like a job for DiskWarrior. > > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 25 Nov 2008, at 22:07, ROB HARRINGTON wrote: > >> Hello, It is many, many months since I have contacted your >> illustrious pages >> and in the past I have read many, many times about boot up problems ; >> here's mine. >> >> G5 IMac OS 10.4.9 >> with 23 Gb free on the HD >> yesterday became very slow on booting up, >> (Normal speed when finally operating.) >> Now can't get it to verify disc permissions >> Ran AppleJack ( hooray for AppleJack! ) >> but this time it failed to help. >> >> "The disk directory is not healthy" . it said after volume check >> failed >> in AppleJack AUTO mode >> before that it read: >> dev/rdiskOs3 i/O error >> invalid node structure >> ( 4,7188) >> >> If this is beyond e-mail advice >> Can anyone recommend a recent experience with a Mac repair outfit >> near Norwich? >> >> RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob >> From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 26 14:00:32 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 26 Nov 2008 14:00:32 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Mail SMTP Problems Message-ID: Hi I have decided to use Apple Mail on new PowerBook as I hate webmail. I can get it to recieve mail but cant get it to send. I used the same settings in Thunderbird and on my smart phone and it works, but not in Mail. I just the message 'cannot send message using the server'. My outgoing email doesn't require SSL or authentication. I am using webmail to send this. Any ideas? --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 26 14:06:59 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:06:59 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Mail Test Message-ID: <86397275-6653-4009-AF38-6EE5DA061F54@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I have decided to use Apple Mail on my new PowerBook. Webmail is getting on my nerves. Just a test to if it works. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 26 14:09:22 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:09:22 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Apple Mail Is Working Message-ID: <7337561A-DCF1-410E-A257-18A43D1209E4@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi Seems mail clients are a little different. Thunderbird automatically selects username/password as authentication method for smtp servers. Apple Mail selects none as authentication method. So Thunderbird worked straight away. It seems my account did need username and password authentication after all and now mail is working fine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 26 20:46:12 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:46:12 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] More Mail Woes Message-ID: <326926D8-9899-4443-9C53-E01A07F3EDE9@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I solved my sending emails in Apple Mail problem, now I have another one. Everytime my PowerBook wakes from sleep it asks me for the incoming mail server password. Actually it says the one it has is wrong and I need to reenter it, however, I just reenter the same one and it works. But it happens everytime it wakes from sleep. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Wed Nov 26 21:12:08 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:12:08 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] More Mail Woes In-Reply-To: <844FC599-73A2-455E-951B-17CB0E2DDF89@zen.co.uk> References: <326926D8-9899-4443-9C53-E01A07F3EDE9@simonroyal.co.uk> <844FC599-73A2-455E-951B-17CB0E2DDF89@zen.co.uk> Message-ID: <91DF5808-BAF4-46A9-9E66-7E90363AA98C@simonroyal.co.uk> Steven When I open Mail for the first time it doesn't ask for it. It is stored in the Mail settings. However, when it goes to sleep it tells me it is wrong and to re-enter it. Shouldn't it just reconnect by itself. Simon On 26 Nov 2008, at 21:04, Steven Jefferson wrote: > IMHO it needs to reconnect to your mail server which I assume > believes its disconnected, hence the PW request. No different to > shutting down..... > Steven Jefferson > steve.jefferson at zen.co.uk > > > > On 26 Nov 2008, at 20:46, Simon Royal wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I solved my sending emails in Apple Mail problem, now I have >> another one. >> >> Everytime my PowerBook wakes from sleep it asks me for the incoming >> mail server password. Actually it says the one it has is wrong and >> I need to reenter it, however, I just reenter the same one and it >> works. >> >> But it happens everytime it wakes from sleep. >> >> Simon >> >> >> --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk >> --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From rob at atvetsystems.com Wed Nov 26 22:08:05 2008 From: rob at atvetsystems.com (Robert Tillyard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:08:05 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] More Mail Woes In-Reply-To: <91DF5808-BAF4-46A9-9E66-7E90363AA98C@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <326926D8-9899-4443-9C53-E01A07F3EDE9@simonroyal.co.uk> <844FC599-73A2-455E-951B-17CB0E2DDF89@zen.co.uk> <91DF5808-BAF4-46A9-9E66-7E90363AA98C@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: <271A9913-6891-478A-B847-3431FE4D234F@atvetsystems.com> If you're using POP then the only error it seems to be able to send back is that the password is incorrect, we have this with remote workers on slow connections who have lots of e-mail, when they connect popper runs and looks for the list of unread messages but often the PC/ Mac times out and drops the connection because popper was taking so long, if the user clicks "Get Mail" again before popper (which is still running) has finished they get an invalid password error because the mailbox is locked. Regards, Rob. On 26 Nov 2008, at 21:12, Simon Royal wrote: > Steven > > When I open Mail for the first time it doesn't ask for it. It is > stored in the Mail settings. > > However, when it goes to sleep it tells me it is wrong and to re- > enter it. Shouldn't it just reconnect by itself. > > Simon From jeremyknight at mac.com Thu Nov 27 09:20:39 2008 From: jeremyknight at mac.com (jeremy knight) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:20:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] "Show all members of group" Message-ID: <8B93D4DA-78FE-4754-80D5-FCC24711092D@mac.com> Morning all, Having not had them for a long time,I am now receiving spam again,not much but it is irritating. It is not helped by the fact that some of my emails have the list of group recipients in the header. Whist one of my friends sees no problem in this,I do,as I do not wish to provide spammers with yet more addresses. And ,of course,there is the security angle I don't think it is anything other than not knowing how to untick the "Show all members of group" so I was thinking of incorporating a short message in my emails asking people to do just that. But,I only use Mac. mail. and do not know how other mail programmes do this. So if members could let me know how it is done in other programmes that would be very helpful. Whilst typing this a thought has occurred.If there was a Web page to which everyone could be directed giving instructions for each programme,would that not be a responsible thing to do,perhaps even under the banner of NMUG. jeremy From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 27 10:36:24 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:36:24 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] "Show all members of group" In-Reply-To: <8B93D4DA-78FE-4754-80D5-FCC24711092D@mac.com> References: <8B93D4DA-78FE-4754-80D5-FCC24711092D@mac.com> Message-ID: Jeremy Are you talking about when someone sends and email to a lot of people - you included - and you see everyones email address including yours and thus everyone who it is sent to can also see everyone elses address. If so I am having this problem with a friend of mine. When sending an email to a lot of people you should put addresses in the BCC field - blind carbon copy - thus hiding all the addresses. For some reason email clients hide this option. Mail does this and it is under the View menu. Tell your friend to send it with BCC or remove your address. I would. Simon On 27 Nov 2008, at 09:20, jeremy knight wrote: > Morning all, > Having not had them for a long time,I am now receiving spam > again,not much but it is irritating. > It is not helped by the fact that some of my emails have the list > of group recipients in the header. > Whist one of my friends sees no problem in this,I do,as I do not > wish to provide spammers with yet more addresses. > And ,of course,there is the security angle > I don't think it is anything other than not knowing how to untick > the "Show all members of group" > so I was thinking of incorporating a short message in my emails > asking people to do just that. > But,I only use Mac. mail. and do not know how other mail programmes > do this. > So if members could let me know how it is done in other programmes > that would be very helpful. > Whilst typing this a thought has occurred.If there was a Web page to > which everyone could be directed > giving instructions for each programme,would that not be a > responsible thing to do,perhaps even under the banner of NMUG. > jeremy > > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 27 14:54:42 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:54:42 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Paint Job Message-ID: Hi I have had my PowerBook G4 for a few days now and I am already getting itchy fingers about decorating it. Nothing gastly as I intend to take it to meetings so it needs to look professional. That 15" of silver on the back is a begging canvas. Question is, what would stick to it, standard metal paints? Would I be able to draw on it with anything? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 27 15:08:31 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:08:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] AVI files Message-ID: Dear Wisdoms, I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, so is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? Best wishes, David -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 27 15:33:09 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:33:09 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] AVI files In-Reply-To: <1KNMxnvP6jmm.3GCMDKCS@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1KNMxnvP6jmm.3GCMDKCS@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear Simon, How? David At 15:16 +0000 27/11/08, Simon Royal wrote: >David > >YouTube is FLV files. AVI is an uncompressed format. > >You could try converting it to MPG or MP4. > > >Simon > >--- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent >using Nokia E71) > >-original message- >Subject: [NMUG] AVI files >From: David Van Edwards >Date: 27/11/2008 15:08 > >Dear Wisdoms, > >I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on >my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, so >is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those >ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? > >Best wishes, > >David >-- >The Smokehouse, >6 Whitwell Road, >Norwich, NR1 4HB >England. > >Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From ken.arnoldi at virgin.net Thu Nov 27 22:04:49 2008 From: ken.arnoldi at virgin.net (Ken Arnoldi) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:04:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] BCc Message-ID: <89B9E5AA-A9A6-4219-A660-F9C395493F53@virgin.net> At last night's meeting blind carbon copies (Bcc) was mentioned.Surely it is common courtesy to ask permission of all recpients before their addresses are passed on to others. I have heard of divorce proceedings when this was not done! Ken Arnoldi From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Thu Nov 27 20:42:06 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:42:06 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Wiki Mac Message-ID: <6F6856FA-1EEB-49EC-A5DF-22710D36C023@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi On my many web journeys I stumbled across this great little site http://mac.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page It is a Wiki for Mac users and Macs. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From david at vanedwards.co.uk Thu Nov 27 22:48:31 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:48:31 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] AVI files In-Reply-To: <65A82B67-FA96-425B-BF61-BBAAEDD02174@simonroyal.co.uk> References: <1KNMxnvP6jmm.3GCMDKCS@mail.simonroyal.co.uk> <65A82B67-FA96-425B-BF61-BBAAEDD02174@simonroyal.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear Simon, Thanks for that. That's really helpful, I've just used Movavi to compress the AVI, in due course they'll apparently let me know when it's ready. So thank you for the link. Best wishes, David. -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 27 18:00:44 2008 From: amlucas2003 at yahoo.co.uk (Arthur Lucas) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:00:44 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Re: "show all members of group" In-Reply-To: <20081127120003.652F37DCA47@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081127120003.652F37DCA47@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: Most mailer clients I have used have techniques for doing this, but the easiest way that works in all I have tried is to put all addresses, individually or as a group name, into the 'bcc' field, and nothing into the 'to' field. Web mailing programmes that I have tried also allow this. The addressees see 'undisclosed recipients' in the 'to' field, and there is no list of valid addresses to be used by a spamming programme on an infected computer. But it is difficult to get correspondents to take this basic hygiene seriously.....! > >It is not helped by the fact that some of my emails have the list >of group recipients in the header. >.... >So if members could let me know how it is done in other programmes >that would be very helpful. -- Prof A M Lucas AO CBE 16 Downham Crescent Wymondham NR18 0SF 01953 602214 From martinfry.photo at virgin.net Thu Nov 27 23:51:10 2008 From: martinfry.photo at virgin.net (Martin Fry) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:51:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Ext hard drive Message-ID: PC World are offering a Western Digital Elements 1TB External Hard Drive for ?79.99. ( www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/editorial/DataStorage_homepage/?int=home_nav) Any Good??? Martin www.martinfryphotography.com From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Thu Nov 27 17:29:52 2008 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:29:52 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Paint Job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon - Chinagraph pencils will write on metal, and glass. Enamel paintsfor metal are ok but if you used a light coloured metal primer first, you could use oil paints, or Alkyds (oil based polymer paint) if you want it to dry quickly. Either would make detailed work easier than enamel paints whch are quite sticky.. Heather On 27 Nov 2008, at 14:54, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > I have had my PowerBook G4 for a few days now and I am already > getting itchy fingers about decorating it. Nothing gastly as I > intend to take it to meetings so it needs to look professional. > > That 15" of silver on the back is a begging canvas. > > Question is, what would stick to it, standard metal paints? Would I > be able to draw on it with anything? > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk > --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 28 10:04:11 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 28 Nov 2008 10:04:11 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Envelope Message-ID: Hi Listening to what you lot have said about customising my PowerBook G4, I don't really want to strip it and paint it yellow. So I wanted something cool, but low key and keeping the lovely look of the Titanium - but at the same time personalising it. Here is a mock up I threw together in Photoshop. http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/pics/pbmock.jpg Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. From h.tamplin at btinternet.com Fri Nov 28 10:09:16 2008 From: h.tamplin at btinternet.com (Heather Tamplin) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:09:16 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Envelope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Simon If you have a spare case from your "lets get my macs working" projects you can test possible paints on that - I would still go with Alkyd paint and try it without primer - or do a test spot on the bottom of the case - leave to dry and see how it holds up to rubbing. If your artistic skills are not 100% find an auto/motorbike custom paint job person - those stamps will need to be pukka! Heather On 28 Nov 2008, at 10:04, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Listening to what you lot have said about customising my PowerBook > G4, I don't really want to strip it and paint it yellow. > > So I wanted something cool, but low key and keeping the lovely look > of the Titanium - but at the same time personalising it. > > Here is a mock up I threw together in Photoshop. > > http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/pics/pbmock.jpg > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster > for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or > better, so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp From robbiemurray at f2s.com Fri Nov 28 10:23:43 2008 From: robbiemurray at f2s.com (Robbie Murray) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:23:43 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Envelope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EA9A5F8-790B-4DA4-B531-7169ACFD8ABA@f2s.com> Blue Peter would use Fablon ..... On 28 Nov 2008, at 10:09, Heather Tamplin wrote: Hi Simon If you have a spare case from your "lets get my macs working" projects you can test possible paints on that - I would still go with Alkyd paint and try it without primer - or do a test spot on the bottom of the case - leave to dry and see how it holds up to rubbing. If your artistic skills are not 100% find an auto/motorbike custom paint job person - those stamps will need to be pukka! Heather On 28 Nov 2008, at 10:04, Simon Royal wrote: > Hi > > Listening to what you lot have said about customising my PowerBook > G4, I don't really want to strip it and paint it yellow. > > So I wanted something cool, but low key and keeping the lovely look > of the Titanium - but at the same time personalising it. > > Here is a mock up I threw together in Photoshop. > > http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/pics/pbmock.jpg > > Simon > > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, > upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for > Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, > so I bought an Apple Mac. > > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Heather Tamplin www.heathertamplin.co.uk "Art is the only way to run away without leaving home." Twyla Tharp _______________________________________________ NMUG mailing list NMUG at durrant.co.uk http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug Robbie Murray robbiemurray at f2s.com 01603-620749 01603-516175 07882-007667 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 28 11:45:19 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: 28 Nov 2008 11:45:19 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] PowerBook Envelope In-Reply-To: <389647ff0e8103d4d7256d2c95a8f4d8@virgin.net> References: <389647ff0e8103d4d7256d2c95a8f4d8@virgin.net> Message-ID: Martin Been there, done that. I've done a green apple and a rainbow apple on my PowerBook G3s. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Nov 28 2008, Martin Fry wrote: Hi Simon Why don't you try something really innovative .............Like a red Apple!! martin www.martinfryphotography.com > Listening to what you lot have said about customising my PowerBook G4, > I don't really want to strip it and paint it yellow. > > So I wanted something cool, but low key and keeping the lovely look of > the Titanium - but at the same time personalising it. > From stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 28 12:50:10 2008 From: stefanyoungs1945 at googlemail.com (stefan youngs) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:50:10 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reducing AVI filesize In-Reply-To: <20081128102350.0F4177DD198@mail.durrant.co.uk> References: <20081128102350.0F4177DD198@mail.durrant.co.uk> Message-ID: <654EE4C0-15D7-4595-A509-3AC434DDA19B@gmail.com> > > From: David Van Edwards > Subject: [NMUG] AVI files > > > Dear Wisdoms, > > I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on > my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, so > is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those > ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? > AVI is already highly compressed. A 1 hour 4GB DVD file for example will be rendered at acceptable quality to a 750MB .avi file Further compression will producer unacceptable artifacts.. the picture will look increasingly terrible. The trick is to understand the relationship between framesize and your viewing target area. In your case, a 'short' ,avi file at 95MB implies the clip is about 8 minutes in duration. That's not short, is it? I think your file must be expecting to be viewed at TV size. If you want to view the movie on the web, then the viewing target is likely to be 2 x 1.5 square inches. Your file is expecting to be viewed on a TV... much larger area. Therefore what you want to do is NOT compress the file, but reduce its framesize. That's whet you see when software offers you the option to convert DVD to iPod.. it's reducing the framesize. Filesize goes down by the square.. so a 8x6 inch frame (48 sq inches) viewed at 2 x 1.5 inches (3 square inches) will be reduced by a factor of 16. That's why YouTube files are small yet good quality (mostly.. some are terrible often because the uploader increased the compression instead of decreasing the viewing area) Movavi is Windoze only... what you need is QuickTime Pro or VideoConverter Signed Norman (geddit?) From david at vanedwards.co.uk Fri Nov 28 14:14:49 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:14:49 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reducing AVI filesize In-Reply-To: <654EE4C0-15D7-4595-A509-3AC434DDA19B@gmail.com> References: <20081128102350.0F4177DD198@mail.durrant.co.uk> <654EE4C0-15D7-4595-A509-3AC434DDA19B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Norman (very up-to-date for someone your age of 93!) Thanks very much for this advice. The clip is 51 esconds long at 16mbps with audio as well as video. It plays in RealPlayer with a window size of about 640 x 480 pixels. I used Movavi online, it took over an hour to deal with the file and then said it would compress it in the next 24 hours and then email me notice when it was ready. I'm awaiting the call but there was no mention of it being a Windoze only offer. Simon said AVI was uncompressed and that seemed reasonable given the file size and the window area? The clip was taken on a compact camera rather than a video camera. VideoConverter sounded like just what I needed but when I gave it a try the audio was unspeakably distorted and unaccountably stopped halfway through. Best wishes, David At 12:50 +0000 28/11/08, stefan youngs wrote: >>From: David Van Edwards >>Subject: [NMUG] AVI files >> >> >>Dear Wisdoms, >> >>I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on >>my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, so >>is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those >>ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? >> > >AVI is already highly compressed. A 1 hour 4GB DVD file for example >will be rendered at acceptable quality to a 750MB .avi file > >Further compression will producer unacceptable artifacts.. the >picture will look increasingly terrible. > >The trick is to understand the relationship between framesize and >your viewing target area. > >In your case, a 'short' ,avi file at 95MB implies the clip is about >8 minutes in duration. That's not short, is it? I think your file >must be expecting to be viewed at TV size. > >If you want to view the movie on the web, then the viewing target is >likely to be 2 x 1.5 square inches. Your file is expecting to be >viewed on a TV... much larger area. > >Therefore what you want to do is NOT compress the file, but reduce >its framesize. That's whet you see when software offers you the >option to convert DVD to iPod.. it's reducing the framesize. >Filesize goes down by the square.. so a 8x6 inch frame (48 sq >inches) viewed at 2 x 1.5 inches (3 square inches) will be reduced >by a factor of 16. That's why YouTube files are small yet good >quality (mostly.. some are terrible often because the uploader >increased the compression instead of decreasing the viewing area) > >Movavi is Windoze only... what you need is QuickTime Pro or VideoConverter > >Signed > >Norman (geddit?) >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From paulharrowing at waitrose.com Fri Nov 28 14:28:51 2008 From: paulharrowing at waitrose.com (Paul Harrowing) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:28:51 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Macbook Screen Message-ID: I know someone who has a 13 inch Macbook 1.83 Core2 Duo which has a cracked screen. Does anyone have one which he can purchase and how difficult is it to fit? PAH From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 28 14:42:02 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:42:02 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reducing AVI filesize In-Reply-To: References: <20081128102350.0F4177DD198@mail.durrant.co.uk> <654EE4C0-15D7-4595-A509-3AC434DDA19B@gmail.com> Message-ID: David AVIs in their normal format are not compressed and I would suggest the clip you have isnt. You can get DivX and MP4 compressed AVIs but that would make them a lot smaller. If you are looking to upload this to a website, why not submit it to YouTube and then place the YouTube window as an in your webpage. It would then be hosted on YouTube servers and be playable from within your web window. David, I do this on my blog all the time. Check out Sniper Twins video at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/blog.html it is towards the bottom of the page. Simon On 28 Nov 2008, at 14:14, David Van Edwards wrote: > Dear Norman (very up-to-date for someone your age of 93!) > > Thanks very much for this advice. The clip is 51 esconds long at > 16mbps with audio as well as video. It plays in RealPlayer with a > window size of about 640 x 480 pixels. > > I used Movavi online, it took over an hour to deal with the file and > then said it would compress it in the next 24 hours and then email > me notice when it was ready. I'm awaiting the call but there was no > mention of it being a Windoze only offer. > > Simon said AVI was uncompressed and that seemed reasonable given the > file size and the window area? The clip was taken on a compact > camera rather than a video camera. > > VideoConverter sounded like just what I needed but when I gave it a > try the audio was unspeakably distorted and unaccountably stopped > halfway through. > > Best wishes, > > David > > > At 12:50 +0000 28/11/08, stefan youngs wrote: >>> From: David Van Edwards >>> Subject: [NMUG] AVI files >>> >>> >>> Dear Wisdoms, >>> >>> I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on >>> my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, >>> so >>> is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those >>> ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? >>> >> >> AVI is already highly compressed. A 1 hour 4GB DVD file for >> example will be rendered at acceptable quality to a 750MB .avi file >> >> Further compression will producer unacceptable artifacts.. the >> picture will look increasingly terrible. >> >> The trick is to understand the relationship between framesize and >> your viewing target area. >> >> In your case, a 'short' ,avi file at 95MB implies the clip is about >> 8 minutes in duration. That's not short, is it? I think your file >> must be expecting to be viewed at TV size. >> >> If you want to view the movie on the web, then the viewing target >> is likely to be 2 x 1.5 square inches. Your file is expecting to be >> viewed on a TV... much larger area. >> >> Therefore what you want to do is NOT compress the file, but reduce >> its framesize. That's whet you see when software offers you the >> option to convert DVD to iPod.. it's reducing the framesize. >> Filesize goes down by the square.. so a 8x6 inch frame (48 sq >> inches) viewed at 2 x 1.5 inches (3 square inches) will be reduced >> by a factor of 16. That's why YouTube files are small yet good >> quality (mostly.. some are terrible often because the uploader >> increased the compression instead of decreasing the viewing area) >> >> Movavi is Windoze only... what you need is QuickTime Pro or >> VideoConverter >> >> Signed >> >> Norman (geddit?) >> _______________________________________________ >> NMUG mailing list >> NMUG at durrant.co.uk >> http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > > > -- > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Fri Nov 28 14:43:27 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:43:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Macbook Screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Paul Just replaced the screen in my Titanium PowerBook G4 and the replacing part was very easy. The hard part is getting the screen apart. Apple use flimsy plastic/ metal and it is held on by very strong glue. I bent my screen housing/ bezel slightly when doing mine. Simon On 28 Nov 2008, at 14:28, Paul Harrowing wrote: > I know someone who has a 13 inch Macbook 1.83 Core2 Duo which has a > cracked screen. > > Does anyone have one which he can purchase and how difficult is it > to fit? > > PAH > _______________________________________________ > NMUG mailing list > NMUG at durrant.co.uk > http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug > --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From david at vanedwards.co.uk Fri Nov 28 15:06:03 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:06:03 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Reducing AVI filesize In-Reply-To: References: <20081128102350.0F4177DD198@mail.durrant.co.uk> <654EE4C0-15D7-4595-A509-3AC434DDA19B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Simon, Now that is a clever suggestion! I'm busy uploading it now! Then I'll see if I can embed it as an object. I'll email you the link if it works. Thanks, David At 14:42 +0000 28/11/08, Simon Royal wrote: >David > >AVIs in their normal format are not compressed and I would suggest >the clip you have isnt. > >You can get DivX and MP4 compressed AVIs but that would make them a >lot smaller. > >If you are looking to upload this to a website, why not submit it to >YouTube and then place the YouTube window as an in your >webpage. It would then be hosted on YouTube servers and be playable >from within your web window. > >David, I do this on my blog all the time. Check out Sniper Twins >video at http://www.simonroyal.co.uk/blog.html it is towards the >bottom of the page. > >Simon > >On 28 Nov 2008, at 14:14, David Van Edwards wrote: > >>Dear Norman (very up-to-date for someone your age of 93!) >> >>Thanks very much for this advice. The clip is 51 esconds long at >>16mbps with audio as well as video. It plays in RealPlayer with a >>window size of about 640 x 480 pixels. >> >>I used Movavi online, it took over an hour to deal with the file >>and then said it would compress it in the next 24 hours and then >>email me notice when it was ready. I'm awaiting the call but there >>was no mention of it being a Windoze only offer. >> >>Simon said AVI was uncompressed and that seemed reasonable given >>the file size and the window area? The clip was taken on a compact >>camera rather than a video camera. >> >>VideoConverter sounded like just what I needed but when I gave it a >>try the audio was unspeakably distorted and unaccountably stopped >>halfway through. >> >>Best wishes, >> >>David >> >> >>At 12:50 +0000 28/11/08, stefan youngs wrote: >>>>From: David Van Edwards >>>>Subject: [NMUG] AVI files >>>> >>>> >>>>Dear Wisdoms, >>>> >>>>I have a short clip of video in AVI format which I'd like to put on >>>>my website. But it's 95Mb and that would use up a lot of webspace, so >>>>is there any simple way to compress this for web use? Surely those >>>>ubiquitous YouTube files can't be that big, or are they? >>>> >>> >>>AVI is already highly compressed. A 1 hour 4GB DVD file for >>>example will be rendered at acceptable quality to a 750MB .avi file >>> >>>Further compression will producer unacceptable artifacts.. the >>>picture will look increasingly terrible. >>> >>>The trick is to understand the relationship between framesize and >>>your viewing target area. >>> >>>In your case, a 'short' ,avi file at 95MB implies the clip is >>>about 8 minutes in duration. That's not short, is it? I think your >>>file must be expecting to be viewed at TV size. >>> >>>If you want to view the movie on the web, then the viewing target >>>is likely to be 2 x 1.5 square inches. Your file is expecting to >>>be viewed on a TV... much larger area. >>> >>>Therefore what you want to do is NOT compress the file, but reduce >>>its framesize. That's whet you see when software offers you the >>>option to convert DVD to iPod.. it's reducing the framesize. >>>Filesize goes down by the square.. so a 8x6 inch frame (48 sq >>>inches) viewed at 2 x 1.5 inches (3 square inches) will be reduced >>>by a factor of 16. That's why YouTube files are small yet good >>>quality (mostly.. some are terrible often because the uploader >>>increased the compression instead of decreasing the viewing area) >>> >>>Movavi is Windoze only... what you need is QuickTime Pro or VideoConverter >>> >>>Signed >>> >>>Norman (geddit?) >>>_______________________________________________ >>>NMUG mailing list >>>NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> >> >>-- >>The Smokehouse, >>6 Whitwell Road, >>Norwich, NR1 4HB England. >> >>Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >>Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >> >>_______________________________________________ >>NMUG mailing list >>NMUG at durrant.co.uk >>http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug >> > >--- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk >--- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 > >_______________________________________________ >NMUG mailing list >NMUG at durrant.co.uk >http://server.durrant.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/nmug -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From robharrington at mac.com Fri Nov 28 18:13:55 2008 From: robharrington at mac.com (ROB HARRINGTON) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:13:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. Message-ID: My header says ' it will only get worse ' Don't like the look of the square in the middle of my Imac screen - it was grey and now its blue........ DiskWarrior arrived- I think I must belong to the other lot - you know, the ones who never say " I lost everything, then I bought your thingy and with just two clicks it was all restored, thank you, thank you, thank you. " DiskWarrior has informed me: -------------- next part -------------- So all I could do was copy the contents of the new directory onto an external drive, i.e. the entire internal hard drive of the G5 imac. - took a while. so, now ?70 down,has anyone recommendations ? Some repair chappy in Norwich area or let it die and get another machine? ( It behaves well after the boot up ) RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRob From paul at durrant.co.uk Fri Nov 28 18:19:41 2008 From: paul at durrant.co.uk (Paul Durrant) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:19:41 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] G5 IMac slow boot up, it is only going to get worse. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04C8E8C7-AA03-4FEB-BC54-3499116BE189@durrant.co.uk> Could you elaborate on what's happened with DiskWarrior? I'm afraid that attachments get stripped. Paul On 28 Nov 2008, at 18:13, ROB HARRINGTON wrote: > My header says ' it will only get worse ' > Don't like the look of the square in the middle of my Imac screen > - it was grey and now its blue........ > > DiskWarrior arrived- > I think I must belong to the other lot - > you know, the ones who never say > " I lost everything, then I bought your thingy and > with just two clicks it was all restored, thank you, thank you, > thank you. " > > DiskWarrior has informed me: > > > > So all I could do was copy the contents of the new directory onto an > external drive, > i.e. the entire internal hard drive of the G5 imac. > - took a while. > > so, now ?70 down,has anyone recommendations ? > Some repair chappy in Norwich area or let it die and get another > machine? > ( It behaves well after the boot up ) > From june.perrett at mac.com Sat Nov 29 10:04:55 2008 From: june.perrett at mac.com (June Perrett) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:04:55 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Thanks re - Photos from iPhoto into Facebook Message-ID: <7A31A8BB-931A-4016-AD27-D42107A1792E@mac.com> On 23 Nov. I put out a plea for help as I was getting frustrated trying to get some pics into Facebook. And as you might expect NMUG came to the rescue! I can now transfer pics from iPhoto into facebook and my thanks go to Jon, Valerie and Richard for your kind help and suggestions. June (Perrett) From david at vanedwards.co.uk Sat Nov 29 13:52:39 2008 From: david at vanedwards.co.uk (David Van Edwards) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:52:39 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Fwd: Help please Message-ID: Dear All, Any ideas? David >From: Thea Abbott >To: David Edwards >Subject: Help please >Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:18:01 +0000 > > >I'm trying to set up a new ADSL connection on my iBook G4 I have got >into a cycle I can't break. I go to System Preferences - Network - >and I get a pop-up window over first network window which says - > >Your network settings have been changed by another application. OK? > >I click OK - it vanishes - but then re-appears. The only way out is >to force quit. Any suggestions gratefully received. >Thea -- The Smokehouse, 6 Whitwell Road, Norwich, NR1 4HB England. Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sat Nov 29 22:42:27 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:42:27 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Windoze Users? Message-ID: <1B18735C-6B90-410E-9D7A-9567673FF5CE@simonroyal.co.uk> Hi I was just wondering how many members also have Windows machines at home and use them and how many of us are Mac only. I know some of you will be forced to use them at work, so that doesn't count. As you all know I am a hardcore diehard Mac only guy, but my wife has been leaning towards the dark side and we might end up having a Windows machine for her to use. I haven't always been a Mac user. I spent 10 years as a PC drone, going from Windows 3.11 up to Windows 2000, until finally seeing the light and switching to Mac OS 9 at the turn of the century. Since then I haven't looked back apart from the occasional virtualisation. Being a Mac only user has its plus points obviously - a great OS and less headaches, but it does have it's down side. Not being in touch with the PC world on a daily basis you start to lose your edge and knowledge. I have used both XP and Vista, but not to any extent that I could offer indepth technical help. Having a M$ box in our house would allow me to help other PC users (and boy don't they need it), but I just know I will spend most of the time glaring at it in disgust. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5 From mail at simonroyal.co.uk Sun Nov 30 22:31:14 2008 From: mail at simonroyal.co.uk (Simon Royal) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:31:14 +0000 Subject: [NMUG] Q Message-ID: Hi Has anyone used the Q emulator. It is a free OSX port of Qemu for running Windows. I tried Virtual PC and it worked fine, but when trying to use Q I got stuck at the hard drive formatting part. It doesn't create a FAT16/32 partition and then FDISK and FORMAT fails to format the disk in the right format. I got FDISK to create the partition but I couldn't get it to FORMAT it. Any ideas? I know this isn't particularly Mac related, but I am sure it is a problem with Q rather than anything else. Simon PS. I am trying to install Windows 98 SE --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk --- sent from my PowerBook G4 867Mhz, 768MB RAM, Mac OSX 10.5